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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; Mark Collett &#160; Trump&#8217;s War for Israel &#160; &#160; Fri, Mar 6, 2026 &#160; [In this livestream video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, talks with Natty and Yuro on the ongoing ZOG war &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2026/03/16/mark-collett-trumps-war-for-israel-mar-6-2026-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Trump&#8217;s War for Israel</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this livestream video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, talks with Natty and Yuro on the ongoing ZOG war against Iran. Items discussed include:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Argues the official rationale for attacking Iran mirrors Iraq’s WMD narrative.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Netanyahu has warned for decades that Iran is “weeks/months from a bomb” (since the 1990s). “Weapons of mass destruction” is a discredited Iraq-era euphemism that once sold war.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Uses “Iran nuclear” rather than vague “WMD” because WMD became synonymous with lies!</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Daily Mail-type outlets allegedly opposed Iraq in hindsight but now back war on Iran.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The real driver is the “Greater Israel Project,” not nonproliferation.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Cite prior regime changes/destabilisation: Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Reference the Chilcot Inquiry and Tony Blair’s meetings with Israeli figures about “strategy.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Israel and allied services (CIA/MI6/Mossad) foster regional chaos to weaken opponents.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Argue the goal is not simple “regime change,” but long-term destabilisation and failed states.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Transcript to be continued]</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Links PNAC-era (Project for a New American Century) objectives to multiple Middle East wars.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Western support for Islamist groups in Syria/Libya as instruments of policy.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Israel supported some anti-Assad factions while decrying terrorism publicly.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“This is about the Greater Israel Project.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Critique “negotiations as cover,” the US uses talks to set up surprise attacks.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“It’s like offering a handshake and then a sucker punch.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Countries will distrust US diplomacy going forward (Russia, China, DPRK, etc.).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Contrast Russia’s restraint in Kiev with alleged Western conduct in Iran.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Denounces assassinations and civilian strikes (e.g., schoolgirls), calling them deliberate. Modern munitions have “sub‑meter accuracy,” so civilian hits are not accidents.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Post-strike online narratives falsely blamed Iranian misfires for civilian deaths.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Attacks on police and civic targets aimed to spur an internal Iranian uprising.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Contrary to that, public rallies in Iran show support for the government has solidified.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Suggests Bahrain could see unrest due to US basing and regional backlash.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discuss information blackouts and asymmetrical reporting (showing Iran failures vs. Israeli success). “We don’t even know what’s real,” citing Telegram sources and censorship claims.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Analysis of US carriers: They say carriers have stayed at greater stand-off ranges due to missile threats.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Cite interceptor scarcity and cost vs. Cheap drones/missiles as a potential US/Israeli vulnerability.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The US convened defense industry leaders to surge interceptor production.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Note reports of a US escort ship fire and claim small salvos pushed carriers back (unconfirmed).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Discussion of Iranian strategy: Conserve advanced weapons; use older SRBMs and cheap drones first.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Iranian cluster munitions now being used against Israel.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“Sub‑meter accuracy” and drone saturation are framed as key tactical themes.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Some refinery and base attacks in the Gulf could be false-flag operations to widen war.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">RAF Akrotiri (Cyprus) incident is mentioned; debate over perpetrator (Iran/Hezbollah/false flag).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Strait of Hormuz closure is said to spike oil prices and strain Western economies.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Predict Europe will suffer worse than the US due to energy dependence.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">Example cited: Heating oil price jumps immediately after events in the Gulf.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“Even if it wrapped up tomorrow, we’d still have the price shocks.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Claims Trump’s popularity is falling; they criticise his “peace ticket” branding.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Call Trump highly philo-semitic and beholden to major donors; they reference Adelson. “Follow the money.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The US acts as Israel’s indispensable backer; Israel is not self-sufficient militarily. “Israel is not invincible.”</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">October 7 as revealing Israeli vulnerabilities (but debate whether it was “allowed”).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Criticise UK media figures (e.g., Andrew Neil) and influencers backing intervention.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Highlight a notable US backlash: Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Emphasise Ana Kasparian’s on-Air criticism of Israel as a mainstream shift.</span><br />
<span style="color: #008000;">“Get Israel out of American politics,” citing applause lines at Turning Point USA.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Ague Russia/China assist Iran quietly (intelligence/satnav), but avoid open confrontation.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Debate on whether Russia/China should or could provide more (e.g., advanced jets, nuclear deterrence).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Deem nuclear use by the US unlikely and strategically pointless (mostly harms civilians).</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Argue nuclear use would trigger global outrage and unpredictable escalation.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Predict a prolonged conflict benefits Iran’s strategy more than a short, sharp US/Israeli strike.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Oppose Western refugee inflows from new conflicts; warn of demographic consequences for Europe.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Reference Libya’s fall ending Italy–Libya migration controls, spurring 2015 flows.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Predict 2.5 million displaced from a wider Gulf war, mostly heading to Europe.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">UK politics: Starmer avoids overt escalation to protect the domestic Muslim vote.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Contrast Rupert Lowe’s caution on Israel with demands by critics to force a stance.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Closing view: Asserts the US–Israel axis is the central global destabiliser in their analysis.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Hello everybody and welcome to tonight’s stream. We’re live on Odysee, Rumble, DLive and Entropy. And I’ve got a wonderful panel for you here tonight to discuss the big issue of, well, the last week or so, and it’s obviously Trump’s war for Israel or Trump’s war on Iran for Israel, to be more precise.</p>
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<p>Now, the guys I’ve got with me I’ll be introducing shortly. It’s of course Natty and Yuro from the Nationalist A-Team. We’re going to cover some of the things we covered last Sunday quickly. And then we’re going to go deeper into things. Everyone’s going to get roughly an equal time to talk. I’m not going to be putting people on an egg timer, but we’ve probably got nine or ten topics and if everyone puts sort of three, four minutes into each topic, it’ll be about a 90 minute presentation. So stick around. It’s going to be pretty entertaining or at least pretty enlightening.</p>
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<p>Now, the first is of course Natty. You know him from the Nationalist A-Team and also from numerous other streams that he’s done with me in the past. Natty’s a guy that’s been around since the beginning of PA. He’s been to all the meetings, at conferences, camps, etc, and he’s always someone that everyone likes hearing from.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, I’m good. I’m enjoying watching Tel Aviv burn. I’m sure we’re gonna talk about the ins and outs of what that means, but yeah, I’m good apart from that it’s been a bit of a crazy week trying to keep up with everything and I think my wife has suffered constantly looking across at me and seeing my face buried in my phone because I’m trying to, I’m monitoring the situation. But yeah, it’s very interesting times.</p>
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<p>And you’re like:</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, yeah, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that’s kind of that’s kind of the str. I’d say that that’s the struggle that we have.!</p>
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<p>Anyway, we’ve also got Yuro with us tonight. He’s obviously famous because Yuro used to do The Absolute State of Britain podcast.</p>
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<p>And again, he’s a very able wing man. He has been on the National A-Team standing in for Sam. He always has good takes, he’s a funny guy and sometimes I bully him a bit, which is a little unfair, but that’s because I love him and see him as like my little brother, My little brother who needs the odd sort of monkey scrub and jab in the ribs, but he’s like my little brother, so I still love him.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I’m good. I’ve also been keenly paying attention watching Middle East Spectator and other such channels on Telegram. You know, it’s, I think there’s a lot more censorship obviously during the 12 Day War that was going on between Iran and Israel before. It was very much like:</p>
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<p>And it’s just that more. So we see all of Iran’s failures and then some things that’s like disinfo and we see all of Israel’s successes and then some, and some of that’s disinfo. And it’s kind of hard to even know what’s real.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[04:47]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> That’s a good point actually because just briefly, it does seem like the information blackout from Israel was way more intense during the 12 Day War. And it seems like now because of the scope and the breadth of everything, just more is getting through or you’re able to find out more. And I’m sure this isn’t true, if you check the BBC or just some other like ZOG regime outlet, you’re not going to be seeing anything hitting Israel. But that’s what everyone’s interested in. That’s what everyone wants to see. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> You know, how many hypersonics hit Tel Aviv? This time, you know what US asset has just been blown up by a drone in Saudi Arabia or Bahrain or wherever it is. That’s what people are interested in seeing. They want to see the underdog smacking the bully in the mouth. And that’s what happens when a cheap Shahed drone gets through a multi-million dollar interceptor screen and like blows up a THAAD <span style="color: #008000;">[Terminal High Altitude Area Defense]</span> radar system or something. That’s what everyone’s into, right? Everyone wants to see that. No one wants to see like Iranian suburbs being like caught on fire and hit with JDAMs and hit with Tomahawk missiles because that’s just brutal civilian casualties, which is what ZOG <span style="color: #008000;">[Zionist Occupied Government]</span> is good at.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, the funny thing is to see America in this war using the copy of the Iranian kamikaze drones. They’ve got their own basically one to one copy of the Shahed drone that they’ve now rolled out and they’re starting to fire back at the Iranians. Because it was just like the near perfect design that they’re like:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We can’t make any better than this. We’re just going to copy it.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. You know, for the grand and mighty American empire is reverse engineering Third World brownoid country drones <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that sound like lawnmowers when they’re flying through the sky!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, that’s what America’s up to these days. I mean, you can’t really claim it’s the European heritage stock that’s like the most genius country in the world. It’s just not that anymore, I’m afraid, guys.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I agree. But we’ve got a lot to talk about. So and we do actually have just. We do have a little sort of running order as well, tonight. I’m not going to read it out, but I was going to post it actually and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, these are all the things we’ll be discussing.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But there’s a lot to discuss and we’re going to go through things from the start. Now we’re going to speed run some of the bits we talked about on the Nationalist A-Team because for anyone who watched the Nationalist A-Team and enjoys it, look, it is a banger of a stream, except for when I get killed by somebody and get upset.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But other than that! It is a good stream. And if you want to watch it, there’s some takes there. And also there’s the Patriarch there as well who provides quite a lot of good comedy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, so we’re going to start with the wider justification for this because there’s nowhere better to start than the official justification. Now, I’ve seen these videos where Netanyahu, they’re sort of like compilation videos of every time Netanyahu is claimed that Iran is sort of five months, five weeks, you know, two years from getting the atomic bomb. And he’s been doing this, believe it or not, for over 30 years!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the first example I’ve seen of Netanyahu saying that Iran is just moments away from like nuclear weapon capability was actually all the way back in 1995. And the reason that’s interesting, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> There are people dying in this war on the American side who have not been alive longer than Iran was supposedly two weeks away from a nuclear weapon!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> That’s a very good point. That is Yuro. But you get minus points for butting in. You’ve been told about that.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Oh, no <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> battalion!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Wiffle bat to give you a spanking. Right. So these fake nuclear claims that are interesting for two reasons.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Firstly, because they are blatantly fake! It’s been, to my knowledge, 31 years. And Yuro does make, &#8230; Look to Yuro’s credit, he makes a very good point. You know, the idea that this has been going on longer than some of the people on these American battleships have been alive is incredible!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But one thing that struck me immediately with this was I remember living through the time of the Iraq war. And at the time of the Iraq war, Weapons of Mass Destruction became one of the most maligned phrases to have ever been used in British Parliament, to the point that where if you now say “<em>Weapons of Mass Destruction</em>”, it’s sort of synonymous with war crimes, lies and a regime that took us into what was essentially an illegal war. You know, there was no Weapons of Mass Destruction.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But one thing that shocks me is this is the kind of thing where people just seem to have either forgotten this or put it to one side.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the Daily Mail is a classic example of this. The Daily Mail is sort of the populist Right-wing, you know, vote Reform, consider voting Conservative newspaper. And they were all against Blair and the Weapons of Mass Destruction and exposing his lies and speaking out about it once it was exposed via the Chilcot inquiry.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But now the Daily Mail, like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We need this war. You know, usually we’re against war, but in this instance, this needs to happen!”</span></h3>
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<p>And you’ve got all these shill commenters in the sections underneath the Daily Mail articles in the comment sections, and they’re all saying things like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I’m against the war, but this is an exception.”</span></h3>
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<p>And I don’t know whether these are real people, idiot Boomer types or that’s not all Boomers. But you know, the sort. I mean the kind of person that says:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, well, I’m against the people on the small boats, but I would let the genuine refugees in all. Yes! And if somebody comes here and learns to speak English, well, he’s as British as Yorkshire pudding, isn’t he!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>Those sort. Is it one of them or is it a shill account?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[11:04]</span></p>
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<p>But I think it’s really interesting that exactly the same justification for the attack is being used, as was used in Iraq. But the Iraq, War retrospectively is possibly the most maligned conflict and the conflict seen as the most unjust conflict. Probably post World War II. I’d have said that would have gone to Vietnam at one point, but Iraq seems to have, maybe because it’s more recent, seems to have eclipsed that.</p>
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<p>So what do you guys think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We’ll start with you, Natty. Obviously this is what they’re saying and we’re going to discuss next the real reason and what we think the real reason is. But what do you think to this sort of fake reasoning for going to war?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well, just listening to you there, I haven’t done this because I was just reminded by what you said. But I’m fairly certain if you went back to the 2000s and had a look at the lead up to the Iraq war, you, amongst the Daily Mail articles, you wouldn’t find opposition to the actual war itself, because none of these publications were really opposed to it in any meaningful way and certainly weren’t like trying to rally people against the war. So you know, post Iraq war when everyone was kind of saying what disaster it was, I’m sure the Daily Mail were jumping on board that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But as even now publications that you would think would be against the war in Iran are kind of talking around the edge of it whilst not decrying the war and certainly not being like anti-war, like proper anti-war publications and laying out all the connections between the Epstein regime and the people connecting in it like Mandelson and like Boris Johnson and Tony Blair and all the rest of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But yeah, it’s striking. I mean, one of the things I put in the chat earlier was that before this happened. Well, okay, let’s let me take it back a little bit. Before Iraq, the reason why the term “<em>Weapons of Mass Destruction</em>” became such a big thing is because the media and the government, Blair’s regime spent so much time and energy trying to get public approval for it, because they felt like, they obviously felt like they needed it. They needed a justification. They needed something to sell to the British people as to why it was a good idea, why it was necessary to go into Iraq.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now that just hasn’t happened this time. Because I think they understand that the forces controlling the “<em>Epstein Empire</em>” as people are calling it, which is fairly apt, simply are not in the shadows anymore. You know, this stuff has been laid out. Israel is pulling the strings and it’s pulling the strings of America and it’s America’s pulling the strings of Europe because essentially Europe is just a colony of the United States. So they don’t feel they need to justify it so much.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, obviously there’s like regime mouthpieces and stoolies like Tommy Robinson and Douglas Murray, the Daily Mail and all the rest of it, who are now going out there and running cover and trying to make this war popular or make it so that it seems like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, it’s not a job any of us want to do, but it’s necessary and we need to do this for stability and peace!”</span></h3>
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<p>But I just don’t think the public are buying it. And the public for the most part didn’t buy it with Iraq, but that doesn’t stop that happening. And they’re not buying it with Iran either.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But there hasn’t been a groundswell of opposition to it in the same way as Iraq because they haven’t spent so long trying to justify it. And for a lot of people this just came out the blue. Not for anyone who’s kind of a properly dissident to the kind of Epstein Empire. This didn’t come out of the blue. This was fairly predictable. But probably just for your average person sitting at home and getting on with life, this kind of immediate blow up in the Middle East, where oil prices are about to skyrocket, petrol prices creeping up and we’re probably about to experience an energy crisis, just came out straight out of the blue! And the justifications, unlike Iraq, are all post hoc. They, it wasn’t a media build up to a war, it’s like a media cover plot after the war has started.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> What I find interesting as well is as you say, with the Iraq thing, there was a lot of build up and there was:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Let’s get the UN involved, let’s condemn them, let’s build a coalition, let’s get Britain involved.”</span></h3>
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<p>But the other thing is they never said Iraq has a nuke. It was always this nebulous “<em>Weapons of Mass Destruction</em>”. And it’s kind of like the, well, we’re going to say that they have Weapons of Mass Destruction and that’s like we will say:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, actually they have chemical weapons which we’re going to classify as Weapons of Mass Destruction. And we’re going to hope that we can gin that up in people’s minds to be like, ‘Oh, they have a nuclear weapon’.”</span></h3>
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<p>And it was like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We won’t explicitly state they have a nuclear weapon. We’ll just try and make people think they have a nuclear weapon.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then there was the thing about:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“They can strike us in 45 minutes with their Weapons of Mass Destruction!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>But now they just come out and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“They’re building a nuke!”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s not Weapons of Mass Destruction. And as you say, that’s because the term is just completely lost all validity. You know, people at the moment, they hear that, they just know it’s Iraq, War 2. But they’re not even like trying to do that lesser thing.</p>
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<p>It’s kind of like what they do with racism, where you’ve got like the small definition and the big definition. The Weapons of Mass Destruction is like what they do with racism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you’re a “<em>racist</em>”, it’s like you just think that different people are different and you care about your own people. Well, that’s a racist. But the moment you get labelled a racist, it’s like you’re a “<em>supremacist who wants to murder everyone who’s not you</em>”. Well, the Weapons of Mass Destruction is chemical weapons could be a weapon of mass destruction, but the moment you get labelled with that, all of a sudden:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“You’ve got nukes, you’re dangerous!”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[17:31]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. And the 45 minute claim was like, they can hit the tip of Cyprus. If they drive a Scud launcher right to the edge of the Iraqi border and fire it, they might just be able to hit Cyprus! And that was translated into British headlines as “<em>British territory</em>”. Yeah:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“They can hit us in 45 minutes! Oh my God, the sky’s falling!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>And the reality was, it was Scud missiles and some Sarin gas artillery shells which have a range of about 10 or 15 kilometers, which they used in Halabja <span style="color: #008000;">[1988 against Kurds]</span> apparently. I mean, we saw, I, we got trained on that in the CBRA regiment of what happened in Halabja with the Sarin gas shells. But that was passed into, like you said, Weapons of Mass Destruction. Very nebulous. Well, not easy to disseminate term, but very little detail and very little meaning. And you could say to people:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, they’ve got Scud launches on trucks which can fly however many kilometers it is, and they’ve got some Sarin gas shells.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>But these, in terms of where the United Kingdom is and the rest of Europe, these are absolutely meaningless! And again, it was just to justify the Greater Israel Project and take out one of Israel’s enemies and destroy one of Israel’s enemies.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, I was having to think about this before we started this stream. And I said to myself, you know:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“There is one state, there is a rogue state in the Middle East that has Weapons of Mass Destruction.”</span></h3>
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<p>And by that I mean a boatload of actual nuclear weapons. And they have the capability of targeting Britain, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> And if rumours are to be believed, then the Samson Option is a real thing and Israel is the lunatic state that has no compunction about using these things. Now, I don’t know if that’s a real thing or whether that’s just something that gets disseminated to scare everyone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you’ve got to remember the only people who have used nukes as an actual weapon of war against living targets is the Epstein Regime in the Second World War. And I don’t separate the people who are running America now from those people. I mean, it’s the same group of people.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> If you look at the way that they behave on the world stage, the way that they behave against the Palestinians, the way that they behave against the Iranians, it wouldn’t be out of character for them to just lash out at everyone else for “<em>not defending them hard enough</em>”. But according to the publicly available information, they have intercontinental ballistic missiles with a range of 11 and a half thousand kilometers, which basically means they can hit everywhere on the planet with the exception of kind of east Australia, New Zealand and some bits of South America.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> So those parts of South America where all the Nazis fled to, so unfortunately they <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> can’t touch them!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> The parts where Javier Milei, who’s converted to Judaism, is currently in charge.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Oh no!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And they might also not be able to quite hit Mexico where (((Claudia Sheinbaum))) is in charge.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Oh, dear! Well, talking about the control that jews wield, let’s talk about what we think is the real reason for this.</p>
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<p>Now, I’m going to go straight out and say it. I believe the real reason for this is the Greater Israel Project. I think the Greater Israel Project is something that has gathered pace in the last few years, especially under Trump. We’ve seen the attacks on Gaza, we’ve seen the attacks on Lebanon. We’ve seen the fall of the Syrian regime, which was obviously heavily influenced by Israel, who were helping Islamic terrorists in the region. You know, the head chopper ones that we’re told are the great threat to peace and justice and decency, yet Israel is actually supporting those people!</p>
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<p>And we’ve also seen Israel be involved in the fall of other regimes. Israel were famously involved. And this came out in the Chilcot Inquiry. I actually did a video on this. Israel were very famously involved with meeting, &#8230; And Tony Blair admitted this under oath in the Chilcot Inquiry. He met influential jewish leaders from the then current Israeli regime. And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The meetings had nothing to do with military intelligence. They had everything to do with overall strategy and long term goals.”</span></h3>
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<p>So take that as you will. But I’m taking that as they were heavily involved in getting rid of Saddam Hussein.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[22:24]</span></p>
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<p>And I think it’s obviously within Israel’s interest to topple almost every sovereign regime in the region. And they do this quite openly. They are doing it more openly now. They’re getting away with it, sadly. And this is a blatant example of that. Although they’ve loosely talked about the nuke thing, like we said, Natty did make an important point that they felt it’s less necessary to sell this like they sold the Iraq, War. And in some interviews, members of the American regime have simply said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, we just want to kill these people. We want to kill them, we want to take them out. This is about regime change. This is about Israel.”</span></h3>
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<p>And I believe it was Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, who said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“It was Israel who forced our hand. They began this and we are there to defend them and assist them. So when they began the attacks, we were forced into going along with it.”</span></h3>
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<p>Now, Trump then furiously denied this, but it’s a very interesting admission from Marco Rubio.</p>
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<p>So I think this is all about the Greater Israel Project. And I believe that has been the driving force or the driving ideology behind the destabilisation of the Middle East.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, totally! And it kind of behooves me to say this and to get people to realise that whereas we’re living kind of day to day and prices of things go up and you’re worried about your children. We’ve been totally separated from any idea of our history and our lineage and where we’ve come from and where we might be going.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it’s kind of hard to understand for us the jewish mindset. And this is a plan that’s been in the making for a very long time, years, decades, where once Israel was created and they have a vision of the Greater Israel Project. There’s a whole, there’s a list of countries. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt. And through various machinations, they’ve all been, one by one, they’ve been taken out or pacified. Egypt is basically paid off by the United States and is under the sway of Israel, has a border with Israel, but it doesn’t do anything about their genociding of the Palestinians and the destabilising and eventual collapse of the Syrian state. What happened in Libya with Gaddafi ending up with a bayonet up his bum, dragged out into the street, and the subsequent flooding of Europe with migrants, which is a kind of side issue we can get onto if you want. But all of this, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’ve got that further down the line, mate, that comes at the end, if you look at the show notes, I’ve actually said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You know, what are the actual repercussions for this, both for the West and for the Middle East?”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s one of the things we will talk about.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, for sure. And it’s clear now, I mean, in my opinion and the opinion of other people who have been following this, that the reason Trump was so heavily pushed into a second term was that the people who are running him and the jews in Israel believe that he was the best chance of getting this done. You know, this final push to topple Iran, which basically gets rid of the last bastion of resistance to Israel. And you’ve got to think:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, why is Israel so hell bent on getting rid of people who resist them?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>You think, well, the people who are opposing them, the only real people who are opposing them, committing genocide in Gaza, Europe was on board with it. The United States was supplying them with bombs and had carrier groups in the Mediterranean. The United Kingdom, our own government, was flying surveillance flights over Gaza and letting Cyprus be used as a refueling and an air base for Israel. So Europe was aiding in the genocide in Gaza.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it was only Hezbollah and you know, funded via Iran that was really attacking, and the Houthi rebels in Yemen, who were attacking Israel and trying to hold them account for genociding the Gazan people. And that’s unacceptable for Israel to have that resistance in the region, even though the attacks on it are totally justified and being used as like, defense against people who are being hurt and destroyed in this like, brutal way by this lunatic, lunatic group of people who have been squatting on the edge of a Mediterranean.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the justifications the real justification is the toppling of Iran as a coherent state. And I’ll touch on this before I pass this over to Yuro. But there’s talk of regime change. You know, that’s what they say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re trying to enact regime change here.”</span></h3>
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<p>But that isn’t quite true. They’re not really interested in a regime swap where they swap one regime for another. What they’re interested in is total destabilisation! Just like with Syria, just like with Iraq, just like with Libya, where these are just failed states with tribal warlords with like Mossad and CIA run groups running around HTS, ISIS, all of these people. Which means no coherent defense, no missile bases, no civil defense, nothing! Just a load of groups that you can pay this group to fight this group and you know, you can pay these guys or stop paying these guys and just let chaos reign while Israel just expands and expands and expands and gets to do what it wants.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know, kind of reminiscent, I’ll just finish on this. Kind of reminiscent to how if you import millions and millions of foreign people into a small island nation, it also becomes destabilised and coherent resistance or coherent defense or coherent politics kind of become very difficult and a very well motivated minority can rule the lot! So there’s your answer as to the real reasons for this war.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[28:45]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> A few things I wanted to pick up on there. Just as Mark was speaking, you kept using the term “<em>regime</em>”. And that’s like one of those MKUltra trigger words that they’ve put in people’s minds that like “<em>regime is bad, regime is authoritarian, evil government</em>”. It was all it was always the “<em>Saddam regime</em>” and the “<em>Iran regime</em>”. They’re just governments. They’re a different form of government. You know some of them are more or less Democratic than others, but it’s like this regime thing is a trigger word. And along that same lines, Natty, you mentioned the Houthis as “<em>rebels</em>”. I think the ones that we call Houthis are pretty much just the government of Yemen now. I mean, and they have pockets of what’s left of the people that they overthrew. But they’re basically just the government of Yemen. They’re not rebels anymore. They’re not a regime, they’re just that government.</p>
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<p>But obviously this was all part of a plan. This is something that they’ve been going at for a very long time. They had the Project for a New American Century <span style="color: #008000;">[PNAC]</span> where they said we want to hit like seven countries in 10 years. And they’ve basically got all of them.</p>
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<p>I mean, they wanted to get Iraq, they wanted to get Syria, they wanted to get Libya, and of course it’s neocon jews behind it all.</p>
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<p>So that’s been happening for a very long time. There’s a reason why they caught a bunch of jewish Israelis dancing on 911*, already filming before the first plane went into those towers. They were dancing around, they were happy because they knew that was the excuse that they needed to start their own genocidal campaign. And it’s like dominoes falling. They get this one, then they get that one. And I mean, what happens to Libya? He, Gaddafi, gave up his weapons, chemical weapons and things like that.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* 9/11: A false flag carried out by ZOG with Israel being the lead behind its planning and execution. The aim was to unleash the War OF Terror on the countries around Israel, among other aims. See See Also links below, especially the work by Christopher Bollyn.]</span></p>
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<p>And as soon as they were gone, they were like:</p>
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<p>So that’s what they proceeded to do.</p>
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<p>And the other thing as well, like looking at what they’re doing to Iran, I mean, you talked about them wanting to destabilise them. As far as I understand, because they can’t really hit these military targets. They don’t know exactly where all the underground bases are and where they’re being launched from. So they’re targeting, I mean, apart from like primary schools for girls and things like that, which they do just because they’re evil and want to blow up kids when they’re not abusing kids in other ways, they’re just like targeting police stations and things like that. Just like blow up all the police stations in the country and hope it destabilises that way!</p>
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<p>And of course they had this gayop a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago now, where they tried to incite some sort of terrorist uprising in Iran and that failed.</p>
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<p>And obviously they wanted to coincide these two things at the same time.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> But I was going to say that was obviously hilariously mistimed. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Right? So they fermented this terrorist uprising and meanwhile they haven’t got all like the military assets in place to strike it. I mean, you might have a better idea of this than me, you guys, but maybe they thought in the January uprisings that they like funded all these terrorist groups to try and overthrow the government of Iran. Maybe they thought that it was still going to be going on now while they moved all these carrier groups and pulled their troops out of the Gulf oil state bases. Maybe they thought it was still going to be going on and that the Iran government was still going to be fighting these guys, but it was crushed within like a few days. Right!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I have a feeling that maybe they were trying to like wait a little bit longer, but it was about to be compromised and they thought:</p>
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<p>So they had to launch it. And they spent so long getting carriers into place to attack Iran because they’ve had these problems with the sewage system on the Gerald Ford, which obviously some people are saying that’s like a deliberate thing, that soldiers or sailors have clogged the tubes on purpose to destroy the system because they don’t want to go and die and be the next false flag. But they’ve had problems with that before. So it’s not entirely out of the realms of possibility that it is sort of coincidental to some degree.</p>
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<p>But yeah, obviously that was something that delayed them. So I mean we can be glad about that because it’s meant that Iran’s not facing these two things at the same time.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> I’m not sure. Look, I’m not a, like a military analyst or anything, but I’m not sure even if the like Epstein empire, the Epstein regime, had fermented this terrorist uprising whilst they carried out this first strike against Khomeini in a little girl’s school for some reason, whether if those two things occurred, coincided, even then, whether they’d have been able to pull off this kind of toppling of the regime. It seems like, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Regime?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Look, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> it’s the word everyone uses here! I can try, but I’m as susceptible to the MKUltra* terms as everyone else. Right? I’m just not sure it would have worked even if they had pulled it off at the same time.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[* MKUltra was a covert program run by the CIA from 1953 to 1973. Its primary goal was to explore methods of mind control and behavior modification through various means, including drugs and psychological techniques. MKUltra is widely condemned for its unethical practices, including: Lack of Consent: Many subjects were unaware they were part of experiments. Abusive Techniques: Included torture, isolation, and drugging without consent. The term MKUltra is a CIA cryptonym: &#8220;MK&#8221; is an arbitrary prefix standing for the Office of Technical Service and &#8220;Ultra&#8221; is an arbitrary word out of a dictionary used to name this project.]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, look, we’re going to go on to that anyway, so let’s move a little bit further forward because there are other things we want to talk about.</p>
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<p>Now, I think the next thing we need to talk about, we’ve placed this into context, talk about the Greater Israel Project. Now I think the next thing that’s very important is discussing the issue of these fake negotiations that America has had with the likes of Iran before all of this kicked off.</p>
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<p>And they obviously had similar sort of fake negotiations with, I think it was Venezuela, didn’t they? And then they go in anyway. This is something that America started doing, you know, fake negotiations, but then we come and get you anyway.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I think they had a similar thing with the, like Hezbollah and Hamas, didn’t they?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, there’s multiple examples.</p>
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<p>But what I’m getting at is a real, and we won’t labour this because we spoke about this extensively on the Nationalist A-Team the other night, but when we were talking about that, we did make the point that fundamentally at one point the idea of going in somewhere you know, negotiating, but then using negotiations as a reason or as an excuse to then hit another country. So the negotiations aren’t real negotiations. They’re cover that gets the other side to drop their guard. So, it’s like walking up somebody in a bar saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, mate, let’s just settle this amicably. Let me buy you a drink. What do you want?”</span></h3>
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<p>And when the other guy turns to have a look at the list of craft beers, you sucker punch him! You know, that’s an underhanded thing to do. Everyone would be like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Wow, that’s pretty much scandalous! We don’t want to see that kind of behaviour. That’s the kind of behaviour that’s not becoming of an honourable man.”</span></h3>
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<p>And there used to be this narrative that the West was honourable, that we were the good guys. And I’ll say these fake negotiations are being used as a means to cover up an attack which is I’m imminent. I do think that is a really shady thing to do.</p>
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<p>And I think that as time goes by, we are going to see more and more people be unwilling to negotiate with the West. Like, why would Vladimir Putin or China or any other nation, North Korea, negotiate with Trump? Why would any foreign leader trust going to America or sitting in a negotiation room with the Americans when they assassinate leaders, carry out fake negotiations, use the hand of friendship to lock their opponent’s hand in place before they sucker punch them? You know, it’s like holding one hand out to shake the other guy’s hand and when he starts giving the handshake, you just sucker punch them! You know, it’s awful! I mean, what do you guys think to this?</p>
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<p>I think this is going to fundamentally change the way, the implication of this, is going to change the way that every other nation does business with America. And it’ll put America on a even people like the Europeans, who are essentially vassal states of America, are not going to be trusting of Trump again or America.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, Europe is already not going to be trusting of Trump and America because of the whole thing with Greenland for a start. But I mean, I hope at the end of this, obviously Iran’s going to hold out. They’re going to continue to resist until America and Israel, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> This is the summation, what you hope for comes at the end, like, stay on, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s related to this! It’s related to this. I was going to say I hope that Israel and America run out of interceptor missiles. Iran fights them to a standstill. And they say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Right, we will negotiate with Trump in this place.”</span></h3>
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<p>He goes there to negotiate, and then, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> They just blow him up! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And it would be entirely justified on moral grounds and on the grounds that it’s already been done to them.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> They would cry bitter tears if the same tactics they had used, these same underhand, cowardly, sniveling, weak tactics were used on them! And this is something to point out to. I say I’m gonna use Boomer, but, like, Boomer mindset, Civnat, kind of Tommy Robinson-tard mindset where like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, yeah, no, we’re the good guys and we should stamp these dirty terrorists into the ground! They’re terrorists!”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s like your pedo jew empire assassinates little girls for some reason, I guess because they’ve just got bloodlust and we can talk about the Purim Fest, if we want. Assassinates little girls, assassinates world leaders, which is supposed to be off the table. Totally violates, like, any notion of the Geneva Convention or the kind of rules of war and does it in a cowardly way. This is like your medieval knight marching out to the front of a battle under a white flag to negotiate terms and then just pulling a knife and stabbing the negotiator. Your entire army would be, they’re like, forfeit. And the enemy army would be totally justified in just slaughtering prisoners and like, just pillaging and doing whatever it wants at that stage! You’ve set the rules. You’re supposed to be the powerful, the one who’s setting out exactly how things are going to go down. And you open the conflict or the latest round of the conflict with an underhand cowardly assassination under the flag of truce and blowing up 170 schoolgirls! Well, I’m sorry, but what space have you now given for quarters? None! And no one’s going to trust you, and they shouldn’t trust you.</p>
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<p>And the other world powers looking on Russia and China, who we’re going to touch on in a little while, like Mark said, they’re not going to be trustworthy. They’re going to have that in their minds anytime America tries to talk to them, anytime the jew empire reaches out to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we just want to discuss the Ukraine war and negotiate terms in the Ukraine war.”</span></h3>
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<p>And like, Yuro said, they would be totally justified in shooting down like diplomatic planes, like bombing, like delegations, peace delegations, assassinating the head of state. Who’s to tell anyone now that that is a wrong or immoral thing to do now that supposedly the world police and a global superpower and the most moral army in the world, Israel, has carried out exactly that, such a thing.</p>
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<p>And I don’t need to belabour the point, but they’ve been doing this for a long time. And you can look back as far as Dresden and the nuclear bombs dropped on Japan, to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, that’s how these people act! And people who oppose them should act accordingly and plan accordingly.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I agree. And not only this or not only what you guys have said, but I do think it’s very interesting that on top of everything you guys have said, there is also the issue of Russia and Zelensky.</p>
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<p>Now obviously if Russia had wanted to, they could have bombed Kiev, day one of the conflict and absolutely just beheaded the regime. Now Russia never did that. Now I’m not saying Russia are the good guys or shilling for Russia, but it is an interesting comparison to see that everything that Russia has been accused of, the West has done and the West has done it in a much more sort of egregious fashion. It’s quite interesting.</p>
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<p>And this so-called “<em>Axis of Evil</em>” now appears to be far less evil than the “<em>good guys</em>”. The “<em>good guys</em>” have shown, I said that in inverted commas. Have shown their hand. They’ve, it’s a mask off moment. I don’t know if anyone wants to add something to this because we did talk about this a lot, but I’ll give you the chance to follow up if anyone wants to talk about this.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, go on. Yuro, you go first.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I was just gonna say it’s a complete moral inversion. It’s, we are supposedly the good guys because we fight against the bad guys. And they’re all terrorists. They’re inherently evil. I was listening to, I think this was on the Daily Shoah they were talking about basically the term “<em>terrorist</em>” is a social construction. It’s just a word we can use to label somebody and all of a sudden their grievances illegitimate. We don’t have to stick to the rules of engagement. We can just murder them, we can murder their families and put them in jail. We just put this label on them and they are inherently evil.</p>
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<p>But you know, the Ayatollah was never in the Epstein files. That’s the difference.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, the Ayatollah never called me a goyim or demographically replaced my people or ethnically cleansed my people. So you know, what beef do I have with the Ayatollah, at this point? And like Mark was saying, the Russians opened Ukraine, the Ukraine conflict by striking out military targets. They were landing at Hostomel Airport and controlling like major supply routes. And the Jewpedo regime starts its war with an assassination of a leader, or a spiritual leader. Not a military strategist or anything like that. A spiritual leader who’s in his 80s as well as his granddaughter and his family members all blown up. And like blowing up a school with 12 to 17 year old school girls in it. Now you tell me, yeah, you tell me who the bad guys are.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s worth pointing out as well that the entire war in Ukraine or although it was something that had been kind of slowly building up for a while, that NATO had been expanding further and further eastward, it was really brought to the fore because Russia was supporting Assad in Syria. And the Epstein empire had to take out Syria in order to stop Iranian weapons getting to Hezbollah and getting to Gaza.</p>
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<p>And so they started this whole other conflict to take Russia’s focus away from helping their allies in Syria. And that allowed them to get in there and destroy Syria. And it’s all part of the same program.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> The same grand strategy. Yeah, I think people, a lot of people kind of don’t seem to understand that. They’re like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well that seems, that seems too far fetched that the Pedojew regime would start a war with Russia in Ukraine just to help topple the Syrian government. Or the Pedo jew regime would kidnap a South American president just to support an ongoing or like support a future war against Iran with oil, you know, oil routes and all the rest of it.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because people are like:</p>
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<p>It’s like:</p>
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<p>And that’s what they did do. And in Syria, Russian troops, Russian air power in Syria was halting Israeli aggression and you know, Western aggression. It was the CIA, it was MI6 and was Mossad, was paying ISIS, which has now become HTS, which is basically ISIS, to mess up Syria and mess with Assad and sanctions on Assad’s government that was turning the place inhospitable. Making it so that just to live there was pain and it wasn’t the government was obviously suffering and trying its best, but the people suffer when you put sanctions on a country. So on behest of like jewish paedophiles and Israel, America just makes people’s lives a misery around the world, everywhere! You know, Ukrainian men dead, Syrian families wiped out, little girls in Iran, hundreds of thousands of civilians everywhere, in Iraq, in Gaza, in Libya, all dead! Because jewish paedophiles just cannot get enough blood.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And until the extent that they have any support for the Israeli regime in places like the UK, people in the UK who support Israel, they see this as a war against the Muslims. And they hate Muslims because of what gangs of Pakistani men do to White girls after jewish people like Peter Mandelson and his friend Tony Blair, people like that brought them to our country.</p>
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<p>And it works for them both ways because it destroys the youth of the British people. It destroys our homogeneous country. It creates resentment against Muslims which they can then use and say:</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Live vicariously as we bomb them in the Middle East. Oh, we’re getting those dirty Muslims for you know, goyim! Don’t worry, we’re bombing them. You love it, don’t you? Rah, rah, ra! Let’s go Israel! Israel’s defending you! If we weren’t fighting them here, you’d be fighting them in your streets!”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, how? Okay, thanks, Schlomo. How did they get onto my streets in the first place? Anyone fancy answer that, answering that question?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> No, that’s a very good point. Now obviously we discussed that.</p>
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<p>So when we discussed the Ayatollah being killed, we’ve discussed the schoolgirls being killed. I mean, know, as you said, the paedophiles are now murdering children. And this says something about America and Israel.</p>
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<p>Now, I don’t think this was an accident. I don’t think that school being hit was in any way an accident. I think they did that on purpose. I think that’s the sort of people that they are. I think they do things like this because it pleases them to do things like this. And it pleases them to do things like this because to them this is they could avoided doing this, but they don’t want to avoid doing this. What they want to do is they want to cause as much hurt and pain as possible. Now these missile systems that they have, they are probably the best missile systems in the world. They understand where they can strike and where they can’t strike. Those missiles are pretty damn accurate.</p>
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<p>So when they hit a school, I think that’s by some sort of sick design. I don’t believe it’s accidental. I don’t know if you guys want to add anything to that.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, there’s a term called “<em>sub-metre accuracy</em>” and I think Tomahawk missiles, I’m not sure about JDAMs, but certainly Tomahawk missiles and the types of missiles that the Jewpedo regime uses all have sub-metre accuracy.</p>
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<p>So the claims about:</p>
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<p>These munitions have sub-metre accuracy, which means they can target within a metre, which is where they drop these bombs. I mean, are we supposed to pretend that the Pedojew regime is somehow like squeamish about blowing up children and civilians? A regime that goes out of its way to target hospitals and suburbs and then when it’s blown up the hospitals and suburbs, then blows up the tent cities that spring up around it to house all the refugees and injured people that you’ve just like totally displaced.</p>
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<p>So these people are not squeamish about killing civilians then. They never have been. They never have been. Not for the last 70 years and probably not before that.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> We’re always told that we have the most advanced, precise, ultra accurate munitions. We can take out a terrorist in a crowd without killing anyone else:</p>
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<p>Do you remember when they were attacking Gaza? I mean they’re always attacking Gaza, but in particular in the aftermath of October 7th and there were various organisations that went there to try to provide food relief and they had a car with a big logo on the top that says, “<em>Food Kitchen</em>”. It’s a non-governmental organisation, it’s a charity that’s bringing food to starving people in Gaza. And they sent a munition. It’s like a missile, but instead of a bomb, it’s got just like razor blades all around it.</p>
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<p>And you can see the picture of the car, they sent it straight through the roof, directly on top of the driver’s seat and cut that man to bits! That’s how accurate they can be when they want to be. So they have the ability to do that they have the ability to do it. It is not an accident when they, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> The other interesting thing about the strike on the girls school was in the immediate aftermath, like there were shills online, there were online shills and righttoids and jews and all sorts of like scum coming out the woodwork claiming again, like they used to do in Gaza or like they have done in Gaza, that:</p>
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<p>Which was utterly disproved! And yet, you know, none of the people who were claiming this was like an Iranian misfire will ever be held to account or ever be made to apologise or made to like confront their lies about what this was. So the misinformation is hot and heavy.</p>
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<p>But if you think, like I said, I’m going to reiterate this, if you think the Pedojew regime is squeamish about blowing up children, you’re mistaken. They’re not squeamish about blowing them up. Probably the only disappointing thing for the Pedojew regime is that these girls were blown up and didn’t have a chance to be like, sent off to Epstein’s island or something like that.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Thank you. The next thing is, this is quite interesting because it’s not the first time that Israel have admitted to bombing civilian populations. And we’ve discussed that they did it in Lebanon. They do it quite indiscriminately, they do it in Gaza.</p>
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<p>But one thing’s quite interesting about these particular bombings and you guys made the point that they were bombing police stations. And I think they believe that they bombed police stations and took out government leaders and spiritual leaders, that there was going to be a revolution. And we’ve constantly heard this nonsense in the West, haven’t we? That the Iranian regime is hideously unpopular, that normal people in Iran hate the Ayatollah, they hate the government, the police, every organ of the state. I’d actually say more people in Britain hate Keir Starmer than people in Iran hate the Ayatollah.</p>
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<p>But one thing that’s been very interesting is post these strikes and these indiscriminate missile attacks on schools, police stations and other sites around Tehran, we’ve seen more people out in the street supporting the Iranian government and wanting to fight back against America. I think that really underlines the fact that this idea that the Iranian people are all kept down, they have the Ayatollah’s boot on their head, this is nothing more than propaganda.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Oh, of course! It’s quite interesting to juxtapose it.</p>
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<p>Can you imagine like a protest, or a march with hundreds of thousands of people ever coming out for any European government? I mean, the closest you got in the West was Trump, right? And that is quickly turned to ash in a lot of people’s mouths. He’s been exposed as basically just another neocon.</p>
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<p>But if you put yourself in the shoes of like an Iranian, a normal Iranian citizen who’s just watched every single country where his kind of ethnic people, I know that Persians are maybe looked at differently than other people are on the Gulf states, whatever. All the other countries around him who aren’t in league with Israel have been like, brutally broken up and just left as failed states. Well, you’re going to want to cling to anything that stands up to these people and anything that resists being destroyed by them, because you know that if your government falls, that’s the end of any semblance of stability or normality you’ve got. You’re just going to have to either flee or deal with a failed state of a nation. So, of course they support it!</p>
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<p>And you listen to like the BBC or Piers Morgan or some of these shows and you would think that, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Andrew Neil!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, he’s the worst! He’s a total Zio boot licker, man! I’m surprised he hasn’t drowned in jewish semen! <span style="color: #008000;">[LOL]</span> But like, you listen to these people and you’d think that every single person in Iran is just waiting, crouched behind their door, ready to rise up and take out this hugely unpopular government that everyone hates.</p>
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<p>And like you said, there’s no government in Europe or anywhere in the West that is as popular with its people as the Iranian government. So take that as you will.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Obviously, you know, Iran, I mean, I’m guessing, but much like most of the Middle East is awash with weapons from previous gayops and plans that we’ve had to overthrow them in the past.</p>
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<p>But if you turn this around and let’s say some foreign actor blew up Parliament with every MP in it and blew up every diversity police station across the country and just dropped a bunch of weapons the chance of having a revolution would be much more likely here than it ever would be over there!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. And just to add on to this point, funnily enough, the strikes on Bahrain, and Bahrain’s a tiny little island nation. I mean, it used to be part of Iran. But the strikes on Bahrain look like they might actually foment a revolution because they’re kind of the Pedojew empire installed monarchy in Bahrain has lost its grip thanks to the Americans retreating and the actual people in Bahrain absolutely hate their rulers. And possibly, you know, news blackout and all the rest of it might actually foment a popular revolution in Bahrain and change governments there, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> which is supposed to be like a stronghold for the American empire and the Epstein regime and the headquarters of the Fifth Fleet, which controls the Persian Gulf or it used to control the Persian Gulf until the Pedojew regime started this war. So yeah, good one, guys. How’s it going? How’s this war going for you?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I would say that you’ve got a very good point there. And it’s a good point because we are moving on to how is this war going? Well, this is the interesting thing. Trump was elected as the guy who was going to be the President of peace and he was also elected on this America First ticket.</p>
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<p>The idea that he was going to look after the average American. Now since Iran has closed the Strait of Hormuz, we’ve seen sort of panic buying. Oil prices have spiked. This is something that isn’t helping normal Americans who are already struggling with Trump’s idiotic tariffs.</p>
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<p>And I would say, for Trump, when you actually look at, you say, how’s it going for him personally? It’s not going well domestically, but his approval ratings are at an all time low. They’re actually beneath his previous approval ratings for his first term and actually beneath Biden’s approval ratings. Now he’s getting savaged.</p>
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<p>Now obviously he’s going out on TV:</p>
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<p>And I’ve spoken about this before. Post World War II don’t think any Western leader has built a cult of personality as intense as Trump has done with the MAGA movement. Trump has truly built a cult of personality where people see him as the supreme leader.</p>
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<p>But I think that can be a good thing and it can be a bad thing! It’s a good thing because you have a dedicated support base. It’s a bad thing because often you become insulated and you only listen to that dedicated support base. And because you have that insulation, because you have that ring of people cheering you on and like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Up Trump! Yeah, you’re doing it right! You’re getting it right! Donald’s got it perfect! Bomb them all!”</span></h3>
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<p>You don’t actually hear the people outside of your immediate circle. And I think Trump has got this wrong. I think this is going to bring more misery on normal Americans. And I also think it could cost the Republicans the midterm.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:00:51]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I don’t think Trump got this wrong. I think Trump did this because his handlers wanted him to do this. I mean, was it Marco Rubio who basically came out and said Israel told us they were going to attack and when they attacked, we were going to get hit in response, so we just had to join them, basically, the tail wags the dog. We had to join in. They forced our hand.</p>
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<p>And of course, Trump’s all over the Epstein files. He’s part of the Epstein class. He is part of that jewish Zionist Occupied Government <span style="color: #008000;">[ZOG]</span>. He’s not doing it because he thinks it’s going to make him popular. He’s doing it because he is either severely compromised or that’s just his team.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. And to assume that Trump cares anymore, I mean, he’s not up for a third term. And if he doesn’t care, do you think the jews who are running him and the Epstein, whoever takes over from Epstein cares about Trump’s reputation or cares even less about the American people and what they want? They were just dupes who were fooled into voting for him. And you can say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, the 2016 Trump train.”</span></h3>
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<p>Which was a lot more based and had a lot more kind of like groundswell, Right-wing energy behind it. Well:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“They were tricked as well. Right?”</span></h3>
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<p>But if you fell for it again and voted for him this time, they really must despise you and just think you’re the most stupid person ever going! And it’s been proven right. I mean, Trump has now burned any credibility he’s had. This is an extremely unpopular war, but it doesn’t matter. His reputation isn’t on the line anymore, and it’s not a consideration for the people pulling his strings. They wanted this war done. Trump was their best shot of getting it done. And so they’ve got him to enact it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what we’re seeing is the fallout. And who knows where this ends? I’m sure we’re going to move on to that point. But the suffering of the American people, the suffering of European people is not any concern to these people! And you might argue that European suffering and American suffering is just a little bit of icing on their cake.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> This is something that they’ve wanted for decades and they’ve realised that as time’s gone on its getting less and less possible. So they’ve done it now because now is more likely than tomorrow as bad as it is and as badly as they’re doing and not winning what they want to be. If they’d waited longer, they would have had even less chance.</p>
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<p>So it’s just like it’s do or die. It’s all out now because they’ve got no other choice.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Right. That’s what I totally agree with that.</p>
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<p>And what I’m saying is the considerations that like a rational government that cared about its people would make, and there’s going to be an energy crisis, our people are going to die in this war. It’s hugely unpopular. This doesn’t benefit us in the slightest. None of that is like, none of that is in consideration. And it’s clear when you listen to people that they don’t quite understand that. And you listen to like the media class trying to justify this war and just grasping for anything.</p>
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<p>Whereas like the reality, the truth, that this is purely for Israel and purely for the pedojew empire just doesn’t, it’s quite a hard pill to swallow.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And as always, it’s going to affect Europe and it’s going to affect the UK so much worse than it’s going to affect America, because America has its own energy supplies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Whereas, you know, Europe has been deliberately cut off from Russian energy supplies and made to not take fuel from Iran in the first place. And so Europeans are probably going to freeze this winter because of what the Americans have done or the jewish-American empire has done. Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Not content with cutting off via like a jewishpedo regime war with Russia. Not content with cutting off like the majority of European energy supplies. Now <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> the pedojew empire now starts another war in the Gulf, which will just totally screw energy prices. And I like you guys know this, but I’m in the middle of, I’ve almost finished building my house and part of that was installing a heating system and we’ve got like a central heating system.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Didn’t install a heat pump, did you?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> We did not install a heat pump. We installed a central heating oil boiler which we needed to run up as like commissioning the system <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> and like we went to fill it up the day after this started and the price of central heating oil was like 63 per litre. And the day after this thing started and Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz, it went up by like 33 P per litre and it’s now at like 1 pound 33 a litre. So I know this isn’t funny because this is going to affect everyone, but it’s like these are real effects and no the people who started this war just don’t care about this. You haven’t felt this at the pumps yet, but my God, like you are going to and the whole of Europe is going to, so.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:06:19]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And it will be White pensioners who freeze whilst illegal migrants can turn up the heating as much as they want in hotels and non-Whites all over will get preferential benefits and help to make sure that they’re looked after while our people suffer.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, I mean that’s a given at this point.</p>
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<p>But yeah, we’re about to be hit with this thing. I mean, unless it wraps up quickly, which is not going to happen.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Even if it did wrap up tomorrow, we’d still have the price shocks. I mean this is what always happens when there’s a, like the price of oil shoots up, petrol prices shoot up, the price, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Two days for it to rise. 106. Yeah, six weeks for it to creep its way back down. Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> They’re very interesting points and obviously it sort of goes into what we said before about Venezuela. It puts everything into context.</p>
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<p>Now one of the things that he’s really. We’re going to talk a bit about the fight back here and what Iran has done, its retaliatory strikes, but one of the most disappointing things is they talk about this Axis of Evil, but so far Russia have condemned this. I’m not sure what China have said, if anything at all, but there’s largely a wave of silence about this, isn’t there? There isn’t sort of the international, &#8230; So when Russia started their, in inverted commas. They’re not my words, but their words, “<em>the Special Military Operation</em>”, you know, there was this wave of condemnation from every European country about the invasion of Ukraine.</p>
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<p>However, here, this so-called “<em>Axis of Evil</em>”, China, Russia, etc, there doesn’t seem to be much in the way of pushback other than a couple of snappy press statements.</p>
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<p>And I think this does tell you something about Russia and China’s ability or readiness to get involved. Now I would say China is more concerned with potentially taking Taiwan. And the knock on effects of this is, well, China will look and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If America can take out the leadership of countries they don’t like, why can’t we do the same to Taiwan?”</span></h3>
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<p>And I think Russia is still tied up in Ukraine, which is probably by design. I think part of the issue with Ukraine was pulling Russia so deep into Ukraine that it depleted their resources in places like Syria. So regimes did fall in areas that America wanted them, America and Israel wanted them to fall.</p>
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<p>But what do you think about the lack of sort of international pushback on this?</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s obvious that the Chinese and Russians are helping the Iranians in terms of intelligence gathering, satellite imagery. Supposedly the Iranian missiles use like an encrypted Chinese GPS as opposed to the American run satellites.</p>
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<p>But yeah, they’re not coming out and publicly saying a lot and they could be doing a lot more kind of out in the open. And if they were really serious, the Chinese and Russians could help the Iranians develop an actual nuclear weapon to allow them to have a deterrent to defend themselves. And that could have happened, you know, within the last decade, but we don’t see them doing it.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well, I made this point to mark the other day. This is where I kind of disagree with you a little bit. I think there’s only so much they can do. And Russia can’t just import a nuke into Tehran or into Iran without them asking for it. And if you’ve been paying attention, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, they should ask for it then!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well that’s, maybe you’re right and they probably should and they probably will if they ever, if they get through this thing in one piece. But Russia has to be asked to provide that nuke. And the Ayatollah, Ayatollah Khomeini has famously had a fatwa on acquiring nuclear weapons. Which, you know, looking back to how we opened this thing puts lie to the fact that:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Iran is two weeks away from having a nuke. Iran is five weeks away from having a nuke!”</span></h3>
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<p>For the last 30 years, every couple of weeks. So for one, Iran has to ask these countries for things. And I’m fairly certain that Russia is providing military assistance. You know, maybe not flashy supersonic missiles and all the rest of it, but you know it’s a short hop across the Caspian Sea for Russia to send boats and send equipment down to Tehran as much as it can. Like you said, Mark, they’re tied up in Ukraine as per the pedojew regime’s plan.</p>
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<p>And like you said, Yuro. They’re using encrypted Chinese satellite data for their missiles. And I’m sure, like satellite imagery of the surrounding Gulf states and areas that Iranian like ballistic missiles and drones are hitting is provided by the Chinese.</p>
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<p>So I think Russia and China understand the stakes here and understand that if Iran falls or we’re kind of at a turning point in history of the future of the Pedojew regime empire and where it stands and if it manages to pull this off and destroy Iran, then who knows what’s next? And we, I guess, we can talk about that. But for Russia and China, they probably think that actually halting the Pedojew regime here is probably a good thing to do.</p>
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<p>And as much as much as they can do under the table, they’re going to do. And if it gets any hotter than that, well, who knows? But I disagree with you that they’re not helping as much as they could be.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I don’t expect them to hand over a dozen nuclear weapons and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Here you go!”</span></h3>
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<p>But why is Iran using such an antiquated air force instead of more modern Russian fighter planes, for example? Like, things like that would not be outside of the realm of possibility.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well, because that’s not where the Iranian like, national defense has been focused. America, whatever you like to say about it, dominates the air and it always has. It has the most advanced and the most aeroplanes that it can put in the sky. You know, carrier groups all over the place, air bases all over the place. And Iran has had a long time to prepare for this. They’ve watched what’s happened around them and has decided actually our best national defense is in this missile capability and drone capability. And if Russia sent a squadron of like Su-22s or whatever the latest MIGs are, they would probably be shot down in fairly short order, which would be waste of resources.</p>
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<p>So I think this idea, like I said, I think this idea that they’re not helping as much as they can is misplaced.</p>
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<p>And interestingly enough, Arab Natsoc in the chat has just said Iran has a hyper fixation on self sufficiency. And he says it’s noble, but it’s not always the best way.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s probably correct. Like I said it’s not up to China and Russia just to unload the docks in some port somewhere. Just tons and tons of military hardware that Iran never asked for. You know, they’ve got to agree these things and they’ve got to ask for it and they’ve got to trade for it and give things away and they probably feel they don’t need to. And judging by what’s happening so far, maybe they’re right. They didn’t need it. Maybe whatever they’ve asked for, they’re utilising and anything they haven’t asked for, they don’t really need.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> <span style="color: #008000;">[with a Russian accent]</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I’m sorry, comrade, I didn’t mean to leave that pallet of nuclear weapons. You can do what you like with them.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> I did say this in all fairness, mate, I think I did say to you it would probably, to do something like this or to create a deal of that sort you would probably actually need for the Iranian regime to fundamentally turn around and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, you’re gonna have half of our country, you’re gonna have X amount of our oil production. You’re going to be able to put your own bases on our soil. You’re going to have this power over us.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then Russia or China might say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, this is actually worth it. Then we will put bases on your soil. This is absolutely worth it! We’re going for it. Thanks. Thanks a bunch, guys. You know, this works.”</span></h3>
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<p>But the Iranians might not actually want that they might not actually want Russia and China to have that much control over Iranian politics.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, that’s absolutely right!</p>
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<p>And if you think about it, that would turn Iran into a, like a, not exactly a vassal state, but as a, like an arm of Russia or an arm of China.</p>
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<p>Whereas if they come out of this unscathed, they emerge as the regional power in the Middle East, which has much bigger implications for them and then makes them bigger on the world stage than just being an outpost of Russia or China.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> But they could trade on more equal terms with the North Koreans. And the North Koreans have come out and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If they ask for a nuke, they’ll get one.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well maybe they will. I suspect the Iranian government is going to be much more looking at that idea much more favourably after this.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, that is an interesting point.</p>
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<p>And ultimately I’ve said this on many streams, but we are in a situation where that is the only way that you can keep America off your back. That’s the only reason North Korea didn’t fall. It’s the only reason Russia probably hasn’t been invaded or struck by the Americans. I think if Russia didn’t have nukes, undoubtedly America would have attacked them.</p>
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<p>But despite them not having nukes, I will say this. I think the Iranians retaliatory strikes have been extremely impressive! But amongst those retaliatory strikes, it is noted that, because when this all started, I was thinking:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Why are they bombing refineries? Why are they attacking refineries in other Arab nations? Surely that’s going to annoy potential allies. Why would they do such a thing? You know, we don’t do that, guys, because if you do, you’re going to end up being a pariah state and you know, your next door neighbours aren’t going to want to essentially work with you.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then the other day it comes out that effectively what you’re seeing here is not Iran striking these oil refineries, but the strikes on the oil refineries have been carried out by Israel!</p>
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<p>So what do you think to Iran’s actual retaliation and what do you think of Israel’s rather underhanded attacks? Because, and this isn’t just theory crafting. We’ve actually seen over the last, 24 hours scores of Mossad agents being arrested around the Middle East for being involved in false flag operations in numerous Middle Eastern nations.</p>
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<p>And of course, this is something that we all know happens. This is something that we all are completely aware of you know, we know that Israel is regularly involved in sort of false flag events. This is something that has happened many, many times in the past.</p>
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<p>And I think it’s interesting that this is being exposed. So we’ve had the USS Liberty, <span style="color: #008000;">[we’ve had 9/11]</span> we’ve had bombings in the Middle East. We’ve had potential or we’ve had sort of “<em>terror attacks</em>” in inverted commas in numerous countries which have turned out to be the work of Israeli agents. And we’re seeing that again now.</p>
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<p>So I think Iran has performed far more ably than people might have thought. Sadly, they don’t seem to be winning this. Their navy seems to be taking major hits.</p>
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<p>But some of these retaliatory strikes are looking questionable, are actually the work of Israel.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:19:06]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, supposedly, I mean, who’s to say that the attack on our base in Cyprus was actually carried out by Iran? Because didn’t Keir Starmer say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, we won’t actually engage in hostile actions, we’ll only defend Israel with our planes!”</span></h3>
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<p>Which is, of course, kind of a schizophrenic point of view in the first place. But then all of a sudden:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, look, our base in Cyprus is attacked and now we can kind of get in fully without restriction.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> So that’s a good point. I mean, we can talk about RAF Akrotiri, but if you look at where Cyprus is on a map, any Iranian weapons, munitions, whether it’s drones or missiles or whatever, have to fly over, like directly over Israel. So there’s speculation it was like Hezbollah or possibly someone else or even maybe a, like an Israeli false flag, which is certainly possible. And who can say?</p>
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<p>But it does seem like the refineries in Saudi Arabia and Qatar are Mossad operations to blow them up. With the point being to try and engage those countries on behalf of Israel to come into the war on behalf of Israel and do what they can or do more for Israel.</p>
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<p>But coming back to your point, Mark, about the strikes that Iran have carried out, it’s not clear to me that they’re losing. I mean, you say it seems they’re losing. I’m not sure that’s totally true. And we spoke about this before I think a few months back on the Nationalist A-Team, where I think they’re doing much more, they’re doing a much more capable job than anyone except expected them to in the sensibility and where they’re striking.</p>
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<p>So they’re hitting US bases in these Gulf oil states, you know, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia and Qatar. And they’re forcing the Americans to retreat, which stretches their logistic lines. And like we said earlier, they may have fomented an uprising in Bahrain and they’re making these Arab states which have been paid off or controlled by Israel in some way unstable and shaky. And the Israeli installed governments and monarchs and regimes in these countries are looking incredibly shaky or shaky as you’ve just put in the chat, that you’re on shaky ground. And hitting Dubai, well, that’s just popular with everyone in the entire world. So what do you say about that?</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s kind of, it’s almost like their own kind of Samson Option, except inherently justified and not evil because they’re only going after the American bases and the people supporting the Americans and the Israelis.</p>
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<p>But you know, they’ve said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“If we’re attacked from here. We’re going to take this, and just kind of everything in the region, every American base.”</span></h3>
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<p>And it’s entirely justified because these countries can’t claim to be not involved:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh yes, we’re not involved in this. We just have a base where your enemy is launching attacks on you, but we’re not involved!”</span></h3>
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<p>And then the moment Iran says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Okay, well we’re not going to attack you, we’re not going to attack your people, but we’ll take out that base.”</span></h3>
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<p>And then say Saudi Arabia:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“So we’re under attack, we’re being attacked.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, no!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> That’s American soil. That’s American soil there buddy! A totally legitimate target by anyone’s standards.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I mean, it seems like Iran is taking a kind of “<em>tank and turtle</em>” strategy. You know, it’s like when you play a, like a strategy game and you can put a lot into units or you can just build up your base and wait for them to come to you. And it can be risky because there’s a possibility that you get overwhelmed.</p>
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<p>But if you’re turtle enough you can withstand that storm and then you can turn around.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Is Yuro the tank or the turtle? That’s the question. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Depends what he’s had to eat. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Turtling and tanking, kind of the same thing.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> But I think like Iran by its like geography is kind of is able to naturally turtle and the fact is that there’s so many assets that America have placed around it and like the jewpedo regime have around it. And the fact that Israel is within striking distance means it can strike effectively. And America is very powerful and has a very powerful military, but that military still has logistical concerns and still has aircraft carriers that are clogged <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> with like fat Mexican sailors poo!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> American aircraft carriers are as full of shit as Donald Trump!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> yeah, agreed.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well that’s the thing. Look, I mean, we haven’t seen an aircraft carrier at the bottom of the Persian Gulf yet, have we? Now you might be saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh well, Mark, that’s a big ask.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because Obviously, if that happened, we would actually probably see the beginning of World War III! Because at that point, I think Trump would have to put boots on the ground. It actually might be the end of him. You know, it’d be one of the other, wouldn’t it? He’d either have to put boots on the ground or it’d be the end of him. But we are yet to see an aircraft carrier effectively being scrapped.</p>
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<p>Now, that doesn’t mean they’re not doing anything in retaliation, but they’re not hitting the big targets. And look, we’ve had American commentators, some of these American commentators that do these sort of big takes on these things. You hear them talking about this Axis of Resistance and saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh the time will come when these hypersonic missiles are going to be putting aircraft carriers at the bottom of the Persian Gulf!”</span></h3>
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<p>We yet to see that, are we? I mean, we’re also yet to see any of these sort of hypersonic super weapons take out leading members of the Israeli government or the Israeli regime. You know, I know Yuro doesn’t like the word “<em>regime</em>”, which we keep using, but that is an interesting point. We haven’t seen Israel struck. Israel has been proved to be not invincible, I think it’s fair to say that. But we haven’t seen the Israeli government reeling in the same way that the Iranian government has.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:25:49]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, there’s a couple of points to make here. First off, with regards to the aircraft carriers, the American Navy has been keeping the aircraft carriers at a much greater range than they would normally use them to attack somebody because they are scared of those missiles. And the Iranians have launched small salvos of kind of like four missiles at time at them and got them to basically back off and back off to a greater distance, which means they can do much fewer kind of bombing runs at once and they have more fuel requirements and greater maintenance on the planes. So it is diminishing America’s capability to attack.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>There was also satellite footage, I think, from a Chinese satellite that showed a fire on one of the destroyers in one of the aircraft carriers escorts. So potentially that was hit by Iranian missiles and although not sunk, caught fire. So they’re keeping them at bay. The Americans know if they get any closer, they will be hit.</p>
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<p>And with regards to the missiles that they’re firing, it seems like they’ve used a lot of their kind of crappier munitions and their older munitions, like everything they’ve been launching at the other Gulf states is short range ballistic missiles that don’t have the range to go anywhere else. So they might as well use them on these targets. And they’ve been using up these older, less advanced munitions and drones and still still getting so many interceptors wasted before they actually bring out the big guns. And we’ve seen within the past day or two they’re starting to launch these missiles. I can’t remember the name of them, but they’re like a very large cluster munition that drops about 60 different submunitions on the way down and they’re dropping those on Israel.</p>
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<p>And as I said in the very beginning, we just don’t know how much is actually getting through and how much damage they’re actually doing because it’s censored and covered up.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, we did touch on this and like you said, like an interceptor system, like a THAAD or like a Patriot battery or whatever, costs like in the millions, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. And they’re being used up <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> like drones with lawnmower engines and like a few kilogram warheads. And Iran’s just like churning these things out, like churning them out and churning them out and they’re still intact and they’re at some point America is going to run out of interceptors.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I don’t know if you saw this, but the pedojew regime in America like called its defense manufacturers, heads of its defense manufacturing industry in for like an emergency meeting to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We need more missiles! We need more stuff like come on, make it happen!”</span></h3>
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<p>But I was listening to something earlier saying this is very well demanding that, but there’s a lot of a very expensive gear that goes into this stuff, like certain gases and certain rare earth elements and guidance systems and radio radar systems and optics and all the rest of it that has to go into this missile production.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Meanwhile, you know, Iran can get like a cheap <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Chinese lawnmower engine, stick it in a, like a fiberglass Shahed drone shell, put a bit of explosive on the tip of it and just launch it wherever it runs, you know, within a few hundred mile radius, which is enough to cover the Gulf states and Strait of Hormuz and all this oil production that Europe relies on and lots of other people rely on and it’s going to destabilise all these countries that surround it.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> There’s a psychological aspect of them just doing the drip, drip, drip, dropping wave after wave of missiles on the Israelis, that’s definitely going to be wearing the Israelis down.</p>
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<p>And also let’s say they absolutely opened up and dropped every missile that they had on Tel Aviv and the surrounding areas. Well in that situation the Israelis would come out and enact the Samson Option, wouldn’t they? And just you know, destroy them with their own nuclear weapons so that obviously they’re not going to feel like they can just drop everything on them at once because they don’t want to force them into that corner where they say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“All right, well we’re doomed anyway!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Well the other thing to remember is for Iran, the people in Iran and the government in Iran understands this is like a fight for survival. Like I said earlier, if they lose now, if they fail in this defense of their nation, they turn into a failed state. Israel has free reign and MI6 and the CIA have free reign to just fund all sorts of horrible like disgusting groups like ISIS and like the Kurds and everyone else to come and storm their country and make it into a living hellhole, just like they’ve done with Syria and Iraq and Libya.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they understand this is a fight for their survival. So they’ve got to bend their entire will to doing this. Israel and America can stop anytime and can be forced to their knees if their civilian populations demand it. You know dropping cluster munitions on Tel Aviv is like a terror tactic. Well I mean “<em>terror</em>” in like air quotes, right? But at some point the Israeli people, the jews in Israel were going to have had enough of air raid sirens and cluster munitions raining on their heads and could be going to demand that it ends one way or another.</p>
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<p>And this is what happened in the 12 Day War. I mean if you listen to shills and like pedojew media you would think that Iran lost a 12 day war, but it was Israel who cried off, who’d taken enough punishment from everything I can see. And it’s only a matter of time. I mean if Iran can sustain what it’s doing the Iron Dome is not stopping a giant like cluster warhead that like you said drops 60 submunitions on the city in a suburb somewhere, they’re going to cry uncle and they’re going to bend the knee to Iran.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:32:14]</span></p>
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<p>Meanwhile Iran can’t stop and it simply can’t otherwise it fails. And I’m sure almost everyone in the country understands that.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> This is like a boxing match where the other side controls the bell. You know, you’ve got Mike Tyson there and he’s got the bell. He chooses when the match ends. You don’t want to give it everything you’ve got and gas out too early because it might go on another five minutes.</p>
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<p>So they are happy to let this draw out. And everything that the Americans and the Israelis has done has all been about, let’s go in there with the alpha strike, let’s drop as much on them as we can, let’s take out this, let’s take out that, and then we’ll just walk away and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Mission successful, we can walk away now.”</span></h3>
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<p>And the Iranians are like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“No, we’re not surrendering! We’re going to keep on fighting!”</span></h3>
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<p>Because as time continues it gets more and more in their favour. What they don’t want to do is say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Right let’s have a ceasefire!”</span></h3>
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<p>And three months, six months down the line, it starts all over again. They’re better off just continuing it now.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, I agree with that.</p>
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<p>I mean, this is, like I said, this is a long, long time in the making. This is a long term plan of Israel’s to destroy and destabilise Iran. So if there’s ever, if there’s a ceasefire, if this stops, it’s going to be back on again at some point. And in the same way that a Gaza ceasefire isn’t really a ceasefire and at some point Israel is going to move on Gaza again and try and wipe those people out. So I think the Iranians understand that. Well, hopefully they understand that.</p>
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<p>So we’ll see what happens.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, it is interesting because they haven’t begged, have they haven’t begged and they haven’t cucked! I think they know there is no negotiations. That’s one of the big problems earlier that we talked about though. You know, when you make it so negotiation is meaningless, you essentially do put people with their backs to the wall. You know, if you’ve got a guy, you know, stood in his house with a pistol and the police are like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, let’s negotiate.”</span></h3>
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<p>But you know that when the police come through that door, they’re going to shoot you no matter what. At that point, what are you going to do? Is it going to be fight to the death, blaze of glory time, or is it going to be:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, I’ll spend 12 hours negotiating only to be shot in the head anyway.”</span></h3>
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<p>At that point, you are creating an interesting sort of situation where fundamentally the American word is good for nothing! And the only answer is to fight to the death. And look, you know, without going into World War II, many, many Germans surrendered in good faith, believing that they were going to be treated like human beings, that they were going to be treated honourably, that surrendering to the Americans would be the right thing, that they would go home, that they would be treated as prisoners of war. And then they were brutalised and starved to death. I mean, surrendering to America is often, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Or sent to Russia as slaves.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Even starved on the banks of the Rhine or sent to Russia as slaves. Yeah, you shouldn’t imagine that you’re going to be treated fairly if you surrender to these people. They’ve shown, as we discussed earlier, they’ve shown that they’ve got no honour. They’ve shown that they’re dishonourable people and they don’t treat civilians well. Those are the lessons that should be taken from this.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> They protest for their right to rape captives. When their own people have been caught on video, you know, sodomizing prisoners like Gazans that they’ve captured, they protest. And they don’t say it didn’t happen</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Out in the street.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Yeah, they said they turn out in the street to protest and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We should be allowed to sodomize them!”</span></h3>
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<p>Is there any other country in the world where you would get that?</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, I think one of the interesting things about Trump, and this is sort of just one of my sort of notes on this, is that Trump came in as this “<em>art of the deal</em>”, wanting to put world peace on the table, get America out of the foreign wars that have dogged it for some time. And essentially what we’ve actually seen is quite the opposite. Trump actually does seem to be. And this isn’t meant to be a compliment, by the way, but it probably comes off as a little bit of a compliment. But he does seem to be sort of the ultimate ZOG warlord, doesn’t he? Trump as a guy, as a mad sort of emperor stood, you know, addressing his troops does seem to be a role that he slips into far more easily and readily than the role of peacemaker.</p>
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<p>Now, I’ve seen him in these interviews. I’ve seen him talking about future operations. I’ve seen the way he really does love having this power and being able to tell other nations to bow to him or else. And that’s what he’s saying, really, with Iran:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You’ll do what I say or I’m going to completely raze you to the ground!”</span></h3>
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<p>Now saying that, do you think there has ever been a more philo-semitic president? And following this, do you think this will change the way Americans vote in the future?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:37:45]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> I doubt it. And there may have been more philo-semitic presidents, but certainly not in our time, or I mean, our time is in a time when I’ve been a, like an adult. I think I was 12 at the time when the first Gulf War started, when Bush rolled into Iraq and dragged Blair in and dragged the rest of the British people in. But it’s hard to imagine a more philo-semitic president.</p>
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<p>And I think part of the problem is. Well, maybe it’s not a problem for them, although it might turn out to be, who knows, depending on how this thing goes, is that more and more people were just nakedly seeing it as that it’s like, why, what possible reason could the American people, like the people in America have for engaging in this terminal war with Iran? What possible cause do the British people have against the people of Iran? You know, flimsy excuses like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, they’re a terrorist nation and you know, they might at some point have a nuke!”</span></h3>
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<p>This just doesn’t cut it. This isn’t a reason that sensible people would launch wars against people and go on these destructive campaigns against people.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Sunni Pakistanis rape children. So we need to fight against them</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We need to fight a Shia country, a Persian Shia country!”</span></h3>
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<p>Yeah, absolute lunacy! But people, I think people genuinely understand more now. But this is just jews! This is a war for jews. It’s a war for Israel. And Trump is like deeply, deeply friends with the jewish paedophile who was the mover and shaker for the evil jewish paedophile regime. This is their guy. You know, he is their guy and he’s the guy who’s going to see this done. Not for you, not for your family, not for the American infrastructure, not for the home country and what it means for the future of America, but for Israel and for his jewish handlers. And people, I think, understand that. More and more people understand that, which is why this war is so unpopular.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> We see more and more people waking up to jewish power every day. And in America, I mean, you see mainstream Leftists like Ana Kasparian from the young Turks goes out and just says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The goyim are waking up! Deal with it!”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s amazing to see and it’s a great thing! But at the end of the day there’s no one for them to vote for. The two party system in America is so entrenched, they’re not going to have that option anytime soon to actually get out of it. I mean you’re just going to have a continuation of the same thing where you have presidents get elected and have lower and lower approval ratings, but the people just won’t believe it.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> And that’s like you said, no other choice. And I’ll remind, you know, Mark was saying that President Trump ran on like a “<em>no foreign intervention, no foreign wars</em>” ticket. Certainly in 2016 he did. But every president has done that and most of the prime ministers and most of the regimes in this country have run on the same kind of, “<em>we’re not for foreign wars</em>”!</p>
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<p>And yet every time there’s a foreign war on behalf of Israel and the jews, these people snap to. And all of a sudden it’s:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, this war is justified. And this is a terrorist regime and Syria used Sarin gas on its people and Iran is a terrorist state and Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction!”</span></h3>
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<p>So these people know that foreign wars aren’t popular and you know, foreign wars within justifications, but foreign wars where there is literally no justification apart from the jews want us to do this, are extremely unpopular! And burn through the veil that these people use to hide what they do and kind of hide the levers they pull in order to get what they want.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> That’s very interesting. And I do concur. I don’t think there is anyone else to vote for. But I’m not really here to correct anyone tonight. I think everyone’s made excellent points, but you are actually wrong that it was just, 2016. There are pictures floating around that I’ve actually shared showing with Trump and Vance stood together and it’s the kind of text around them is “<em>the peace ticket</em>”, you know, saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You’re voting first, you’re voting for peace!”</span></h3>
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<p>This is what they ran on this time as well. And Trump did make these huge sort of overtures to the Nobel Committee, that he wanted the Nobel Prize Peace Prize, that he was going to stop these wars, which obviously he hasn’t done.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> I think I’m probably guilty of paying less attention to the Trump campaign in 2022, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> when it was in 2016. But, yeah, I can well believe it. And I’ve heard, I’ve seen that in headlines, quoted for the peace ticket. And Trump lambasting Obama on Twitter at the time, saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, Obama’s going to start a war in Iran because he’s such a terrible negotiator and he sucks at being a peaceful president.”</span></h3>
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<p>And it’s like, yeah so many years later, you’re the guy. You’re the guy these people have activated to get this done.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[1:43:07]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, indeed. And the next point, because we’re sort of getting towards what do we think’s going to happen?</p>
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<p>But before we do that, I think one of the interesting things about this is we’ve seen, so there are a lot of, what can I call them, “<em>Shitbag influencers</em>” like Tommy Robinson, Douglas Murray, Andrew Neil. I despise Andrew Neil! Fat, worthless toad! The day he has sort of a gigantic Coronary as he sat eating his sort of duck pate on his terrace in the south of France will be a good day for the world! That guy is always on the wrong side of everything. He wants to attack Iran, wanted all the Covid restrictions. I can’t remember him ever saying anything good. He is scum of the earth!</p>
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<p>But on the other side, we have seen this in interesting bipartisan pushback. We’ve seen Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massie, Ana Kasparian. There has been this mass awakening to Israel! I mean, Tucker Carlson stood in front of Turning Point USA getting a standing ovation for saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Israel needs to get out of American politics!”</span></h3>
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<p>That is seismic. You know, he is still the biggest American political voice in terms of being an influencer. I think this is incredible!</p>
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<p>Now, I was somebody that was quite happy for Trump to get in for a couple of reasons, but one of the reasons being that I believed that this would bring things to a head. I believe that the Trump regime would be the regime that accelerated things to a point where numerous people who had previously been extremely philo-semitic would end up coming out, breaking ranks, and there would be a mainstream acceptance of our points. I remember saying that, actually I was briefly invited on WarStrike, of all streams, the night of the election.</p>
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<p>And I was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, this isn’t a bad thing! Don’t have a cow over this basically. This is something that may well bring us certain benefits.”</span></h3>
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<p>And I think that we are sort of seeing this to a large degree now. What do you guys think about this? Because I can’t really remember the last time we’ve actually seen a such a bipartisan move against Israel. And it’s not just the ones I’ve mentioned. I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been incredible! Tucker Carlson’s leading the charge with young Right-wing males and females. Turning Point USA, which used to be absolutely ZOGged, is now a hive of like counter-semitism, if you like.</p>
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<p>And on top of all of that, having the absolutely delightful and wife ready material known as Ana Kasparian.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> She’s absolutely perfect! <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Coming out for me!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> What? What did you say Yuro?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> What did you say?</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s a bit brown for me.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Get out! Booted from this stream!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> You know what? Do you know what? Yuro’s got this thing, right, where you show any girl who’s got the mildest amount of than, and he goes into some kind of like tail spin as if like White women have never ever set foot out of the house!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Are Armenians White?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> This one is. This one certainly is!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> If she’s anti-semitic, she’s White! Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> The question is, Yuro, are you White? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> Because the fact you’ve asked this of our lady in chief, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Perfect Queen.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah, a perfect Queen means maybe you’re, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I’m not as big as simp as you are mate!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Mate, there’s nothing simpy about loving Ana!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> It’s <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> a justified simpery.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> It’s justified simpery. Yeah. And so why I like Ana as well is when she gets angry, she just doesn’t hold back, does she? She’s one of those people, sometimes watching somebody get really angry, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> There was a clip, there was a clip of her on Piers Morgan and she was like yelling at these like jews. There were like six of them on the panel and I think they were all jews apart from her and Piers Morgan. And she’s like yelling and screaming at them because they’re trying to dissemble and you know, do what “<em>aboutery</em>” about the killing in Gaza and the killing kids in Iran and stuff. And she’s really letting them have it! And she’s screaming at them. There was some like Boomer in the Facebook comments, like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I tried to watch it but I couldn’t take the screeching!”</span></h3>
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<p>I just, I put underneath it, I was like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I would listen to her scream about jews in my ear all night!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Look, <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that is how I feel that like she has come out and when she does it? She does it! So if you’re screaming like some mad, sort of disheveled, for want of a better term, “<em>Karen</em>” and so you’re sort of mad because there was only, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Karen is a slur.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, it is, but Karen can also, you know what I mean? You get some women who’ll go crackers over like the fact there’s only seven olives in there, you know, olive pasta. And the menu shows eight or something and they throw an absolute fit over it! But the way she blows up, it’s so attractive. She’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Don’t give me this! You disgusting Zionist pig! You make me sick!”</span></h3>
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<p>And she’s enunciating every one of her words and she’s not holding back either. She’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You child killing monsters!”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> It’s like righteous fury at the people she’s like, that’s been put up on these panel shows.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Yeah. Exactly! And when you’re watching it’s extremely attractive! It’s not sort of like I said, I know “<em>Karen</em>” is a bit of an anti-White slur, but it’s not Karen-esque. It’s not like an overly liberal White woman and who’s outraged because of something minor that normal people are like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, just pull yourself together.”</span></h3>
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<p>The way she does it, I find it to be absolutely cracking! I love it!</p>
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<p>Anyway, that’s enough glazing of Ana Kasparian. I mean, look, can there ever be enough glazing about the Kasparian? That could be a two hour stream in itself!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> It’s for Yuro, apparently. I mean, Yuro’s not on the Kasparian train here, unfortunately. Maybe we’ll have to have a word with <span style="color: #008000;">[word unclear]</span> after the stream.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> We have to, &#8230; You mean a beating? <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> You’re going to a re-education camp.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> After the show in the green room, we give him a kicking!</p>
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<p>So what do you think of this bipartisan movement, though? I find it refreshing. I like it. And it’s got real gravitas. Because, look, I was on the David Duke show earlier and obviously I work with David probably more than anybody else in the world, for better or worse. And I love David! He’s a real character. He can be a bit difficult at times, but he’s a real character. But sadly, David does not have the influence he once had.</p>
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<p>And I’m not saying that to sort of mock David or deride David. I’m just saying that as a statement of fact. But somebody like Ana Kasparian does have that power! She does have that gravitas, but so does Thomas Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene. You know, Tucker Carlson. Absolutely massive! And you’re watching these people tear in to the Zionist cause and attack these Warhawk jews. It is very refreshing! I mean, well, for me, it is anyway. I mean, I don’t know about you guys, but I love it!</p>
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<p>I mean, how does this make you feel after all the years of being in the wilderness? Look, being in the wilderness is something that. I am still very much in the wilderness, despite all my hard work over the years, despite my incredible consistency. Like, if I’m not the perfect guy, okay, not by a long, long means, I am very good at debates, but I’m not the perfect guy. I have my foibles. I screw up, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Not good at controlling your temper.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I was gonna joke there by exploding at you!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I’m not brilliant at controlling my temper, but one thing you’ve got to say for me is that throughout all these years, I have been extremely consistent in what I’ve stood for.</p>
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<p>Now, when it comes down to it, seeing these people, for me, anyway, come out and be sort of so, you know, completely anti-Israel. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen it. And it’s not just relying on, as I said, this isn’t to knock David, but it’s not just to rely on me and David Duke making the point anymore. You know, these points are being made by these more mainstream individuals who’ve got serious gravitas. And I actually like that. I think it’s something that I think is really important. Seeing Ana Kasparian and seeing all these others doing it. I think this has taken our message to a new crowd. And it’s interesting to see that there are people all over the political system who have had enough of Israel.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah. And I think having this kind of, it’s not perfect. The things they say aren’t perfect. Right. And the problem isn’t just Israel. And I think most people get that. And this isn’t to kind of pee on your cornflakes, Mark. But even the things they’re saying do give amount of headroom for anyone who’s less sizable and less influential from them to kind of push those boundaries a little bit more. And there is further to push.</p>
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<p>I mean, we shouldn’t be coming around the campfire at this stage to stretch your wilderness analogy. We should be trying to, we should still be in the wilderness telling the truth and putting the final truth to it. Because, like I said the things are saying are anti-Israel, which is like 90% of the way there, right?</p>
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<p>And like I said, giving headroom for more, not extreme, that’s not the word, but for a greater and more deep understanding to come forth.</p>
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<p>And I think that you are going to see from this war with Iran, you’re going to see a tranche of politicians and people emerge who are willing to say these things. And sure, amongst those people there are going to be shills and they’re going to be subversive people, but at some point it just becomes like a political football whether you support Israel and whether you’re going to do their bidding.</p>
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<p>I mean, one of the disappointing things with Rupert Lowe is he hasn’t really come out against, he hasn’t made a statement against Israel, which I’m sure none of us really expect, but now would be the perfect time for someone in his position to make that leap. We haven’t seen it yet, but I think this just pushes that football a little bit further down the road. You know, pushes the can a little bit further down the road to give space for that to happen.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> I think every day that the Rupert Lowe goes out and doesn’t support Israel, even if he won’t explicitly say that he’s against them, obviously that’s giving us room and whatnot.</p>
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<p>But another thing, sort of talking about, obviously, the goyim waking up and Trump, I think it is great that we see all these people realizing the extent of jewish power.</p>
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<p>And I think Trump especially is to thank for it, because he is just so openly philo-semitic in a way that no previous president, even if they love jews as much as he does, they just wouldn’t do it so openly! You know, he goes out there and declares himself the King of Israel and he says this, that and the other. And it’s again, with the attack on Iran and the thing with Venezuela, there’s not even a pretence anymore. It’s just:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re doing this because it’s in our interest and we’re attacking Iran because that’s what we want to do!”</span></h3>
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<p>They’re not having the pretence anymore.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I don’t like to cut across people because we’ve all been pretty good at not cutting across people. But I just wanted to further your point. You know, when Trump does things which are so sort of egregious <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> that you sort of wonder why he’s saying them. Like when he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh the Adelsons basically bought me the White House! So whenever they want to just walk in and ask for a policy to be passed, what am I gonna do? It’s the bloody Adelsons! They gave me about half a billion. How are you gonna say no to the people who gave you half a billion? Come on, guys, let’s get things going!”</span></h3>
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<p>You’re thinking to yourself:</p>
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<p>Most people would know which bits not to say out loud. You know, it’s like when you were a kid, your mom was like:</p>
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<p>You’d be like:</p>
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<p>But you wouldn’t be:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, actually, I spilt the water from the big vase, partially flooded the living room, spent ages dabbing it up, and have hid the stain under the mat!”</span></h3>
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<p>Because there’s part of it that you don’t say out loud, isn’t there? And there’s part that you say out loud. But Trump, he says it all out loud, and it becomes sort of so almost jarring to hear him say it, because for years, we’ve heard that politicians are bought, they’re sold. You know, powerful foreign forces pay for politicians to do their bidding. And here’s Trump just honestly saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, that’s exactly what happens! I do it all the time! The Adelsons basically funded me, and I did everything for them. So when they want a policy, I give them!”</span></h3>
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<p>You don’t say that out loud, do you? You say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Adelsons are an important part of what we’re hoping to do, and no one has undue influence over me, but I’m happy to hear from them.”</span></h3>
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<p>He doesn’t do any of that. There’s no beating around the bush. He basically says:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Jew’s got me in. And when they want a policy passing, I give it to them!”</span></h3>
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<p>I mean, is that refreshing to hear? For me, it is, because it confirms everything that we’ve always said.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, he is known for slurping up the “<em>juju come</em>”. As someone put in the chat earlier.</p>
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<p>I think the worrying thing is, or I guess it’s not worrying. I mean, it’s interesting. So there was like just this ground swell of JQ awareness, like Israel hatred after October 7th because of what Israel was doing to Gaza.</p>
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<p>And then the media gets to declare:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“There’s a ceasefire, Gaza’s over. We can look away now. We can look away from the fact that Israel has been bombing hospitals and stuff.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because of the nature of the news cycle and everything else, people let it drop. And then this big orange slave, jew slave, Trump, comes along and starts a war with Iran, like, totally on behalf of his jewish handlers in Israel. And all of a sudden it’s like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, right, my awareness is shaking again.”</span></h3>
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<p>Like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Now there’s just another thing that’s like, cannot be ignored where we have to bring out this question again to the public and try and explain why this war for Israel isn’t anything to do with jews and is secretly about Russia.”</span></h3>
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<p>Or whatever else it is. You know, so, yeah, I mean, awareness, awareness rising!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> So we pretty much wrapped up a lot of the things we were going to talk about. And we’ve already said that Israel has been proven through this not to be invincible.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s one of the key things here. At one point, Israel touted the Iron Dome. It touted their invincibility. I think this has shown something that’s very interesting. It’s highlighted that America is Israel’s lapdog! But it’s also highlighted that without America, Israel couldn’t exist. And that’s important, I think, for two reasons.</p>
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<p>There’s this symbolic idea of Israel being this invincible outpost in the Middle East that the Iron Dome protects and they can stand alone if necessary. I think Israel have been really undermined here, not just from a moral perspective, but from the view that they can be hurt, which is important. You know, one of the big things, if you’re ever in some kind of conflict, facing what appears to be an immovable or unstoppable enemy, to show that that enemy is, in fact, fallible and can be hurt is very important.</p>
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<p>And although we’ve hardly seen Israel sink into the Mediterranean, I do think the strikes on Israel have been significant from the point of view that it has shown them to be scared, that if they don’t have the West on their side, they can’t defend themselves.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Well, it’s like with October 7th. When October 7th happened, it showed the world that they’re not all powerful, they’re not all knowing, they’re not always just gonna win because they’ve got everything on lockdown. Their power does have limits. And there’s some amount of White nationalists who come out and say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, no, they let that happen1 You know, they let that happen on purpose! That they have a reason to do this.”</span></h3>
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<p>But actually, it’s like you’re unwilling to believe that they just screwed up that badly.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Look, I’m not going to get into a big debate, but I actually believe they let that happen. I believe that that was part of their plan and gave them this imperative to do what they did in Gaza.</p>
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<p>However, I think Iran’s a different kettle of fish. I think that what we’re seeing with Iran here is something fundamentally much more damaging for them, because they have nothing to gain by letting Iran smash through the Iron Dome. They have nothing that they can say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, this gives us the moral imperative to do X.”</span></h3>
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<p>Because in the case of Iran, they’ve already done X, haven’t they? X has already been committed to, it’s already been carried out.</p>
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<p>So I think there’s different things here.</p>
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<p>But look, let’s wrap this up and we’re going to wrap this up before we do the questions and answers. If anyone wants to Superchat. If you’ve enjoyed the stream, please consider sending a Superchat. But we’re going to wrap this up with, obviously we’ve said this is for the Greater Israel Project and we’ve talked about the political ramifications around the world for America, for Russia, for China, for future conflicts.</p>
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<p>But one thing we haven’t talked about is the political ramifications here in Britain. Now, obviously Starmer hasn’t embroiled himself and he’s made the right choice in that case, but probably for the wrong reasons. Rather than doing this because he doesn’t want to serve Israel, he’s done this because he doesn’t want to turn the Muslim bloc vote against him any further because he fears losing the next general election.</p>
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<p>But what we can see here, or what I see here, is a major problem with refugees and they’re talking about potentially two, &#8230; There was the, I think it was the Telegraph that stated this. The calculation is that 2.5 million people will be displaced from the region due to this conflict. At the present time, that number could obviously rise and they’re all going to be coming to Europe, they’re not going to be going to Israel.</p>
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<p>And I’ve always described this as sort of the twin evils of Israel. On one hand, Israel menaces, murders, maims, terrorizes states in the Middle East for its own gain and to maintain dominance in the region. However, the blowback is never for Israel! The blowback of all this ends up hitting Western nations who take the refugees or the people that are displaced.</p>
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<p>And I think that’s the final piece of the puzzle, that the Greater Israel Project makes Israel more powerful, but by extension due to the knock on effect, it weakens the West, it pushes us closer to a demographic shift that will be unrecoverable and fundamentally takes us a step nearer to being a minority in our ancestral homelands!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, destabilising its immediate neighbours, like I said earlier, destabilising its immediate neighbours with missiles and bombs and gayops and all the rest of it, is a short timescale. But destabilising European countries with mass immigration and kind of ethnic cleansing and all the rest of that, that’s still just destabilisation. It’s just on a longer time scale. And I alluded to this earlier, but the Israeli gayops and the CIA and Mossad and MI6 operation, well I mean it was the open British government was just aiding like terrorists in Libya, overthrowing Gaddafi. Gaddafi had an agreement with Italy where Italy would pay him to stop, just endless floods of migrants crossing the Mediterranean into Europe. And Israel uncaring that that was in place or seeing that actually destroying that was a good thing because it helped destabilise everything, not just Europe, but top to Libya, decided to enact you know, plans against Gaddafi that ended with him, like I said, with a bayonet up his bum, dragged out into the street.</p>
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<p>And that led to the migration crisis in 2015, 2014, 2015, which is ongoing today. And I just posted in the private chat there because I just looked this up, Morgoth’s Law, which was spoken by Morgoth himself:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“No matter where the conflict is in the world, the refugees coming to Europe will be fighting age black and brown men!”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s going to hold true for this conflict.</p>
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<p>Now that might be coincidental in other cases but certainly with Iran this is the double, not the double edged sword but like the win-win situation for Israel. They get to destabilise nations by direct war against their like direct competitors. But they also get to destabilise their so-called “<em>allies</em>” in terms of European nations in America with all these displaced people who then through their human rights groups and refugee groups and these kind of NGOs get to set up migration routes into the countries who are supposedly their allies that they help destabilise. The knock on for politics in this country, unfortunately there won’t be much because we don’t have much of a choice. And if Reform was in power at the moment it would probably be just balls out gung-ho for Israel. So what choice do you have in this country? I mean it’s probably less than anywhere else.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I will say though, I think Yuro is right in what he said. Every day that Rupert Lowe spends not endorsing Israel is a victory from our point of view. You know, I know that might sound like a cucky thing to say, but it has been so long since we’ve had anybody in any form of position of genuine power who hasn’t immediately been a slave to Israel. And it’s one of the things that Tommy Robinson’s been quite upset actually by a number of things Rupert Lowe has said and done. I don’t know if you saw, but Tommy Robinson said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You know, Rupert Lowe needs to clarify whether black people can be British. Rupert Lowe needs to clarify his position on all these things!”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, I find that very interesting because that suggests that Tommy and his handlers are getting quite nervous that Rupert isn’t going to be the Zio lap dog they hoped he would.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, the kind of the cucked civnat stuff that always bends towards this like piss-weak conservatism, as we’ve seen with Reform, where it just turns out they’re just as I mean they’re not really even civic nationalists, they’re just Conservatives in that anyone’s British, anyone who steps foot on this island is British.</p>
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<p>So yeah, I mean funnily enough, Tommy wrote, those questions from Tommy Robinson he tried to put to Rupert Lowe:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re in the wake of the Iran war starting and Rupert Lowe not coming out in support of Israel.”</span></h3>
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<p>And all of a sudden here you’ve got Tommy Robinson popping up like fresh from snorting up lines of coke on a mirror somewhere in America asking him about the same, well as pulling the same gay ops that he tried with the BNP all those years ago, which you know about very well, Mark.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And after hopping off his private jet with his son, who’s posting about it on Instagram while he begs for money from poor White people who haven’t got a dime to scrape together.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, Tommy Robinson, just to reiterate, is absolute scum! He is scum! Everything out of Tommy Robinson’s mouth is like a jewish handler somewhere. And that has become more and more clear! There’s no like, no intersection of lines from real dissidency in this country in the West. And Tommy Robinson, this is like a literal jewish mouthpiece being paid by Israel to say the things he does.</p>
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<p>And if you think there’s some part of Tommy that’s still good or some part of him that’s still worth listening to, then you simply haven’t been paying attention. And you need to, I don’t know, get with the programme or get your head right, because he’s evil, he’s terrible, and he’s a scumbag!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> I concur.</p>
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<p>So I think we’ve had a pretty robust chat. We’re going to do the Superchats in a couple of seconds. If you want a Superchat, please do.</p>
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<p>But I’ll say this, I think in conclusion. I’ve said this many times before, but the judeo-American empire is the greatest threat to the world!</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And I’ve said they are the great Satan!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, it’s not just the greatest threat, is it to White people. Now we obviously are fundamentally our thoughts are for White people. That’s the most important thing for us, that we look after people of European descent.</p>
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<p>However, it’s not just people of European descent that suffer under the judeo-American State. Obviously Arabs suffer immensely.</p>
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<p>And a lot of the problems created by the judeo-American States, actions such as these unnecessary wars, these toppling of sovereign regimes, the murder of government leaders in foreign countries, like Colonel Gaddafi. And look, when we say this, we’re not saying that Colonel Gaddafi is our hero or that we loved everything he did, but he was stopping millions of people passing through his country and entering Europe. And I’m sure that when he was toppled, there were many people within the Israeli regime and many leading jews in America and Europe that were very happy that there was going to be even more migrants headed to Europe.</p>
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<p>And I believe that the only real way that the world can achieve freedom is for the judeo-American Empire to fall. I don’t know whether you guys agree with that. Obviously have 30 seconds each to sum up, or a minute or whatever you need.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> That’s totally correct! And that is the line of, like I said a second ago, real dissidency, and this kind of rightoid, Right-wing, edgy conservatism. Like you said, the judeo-American Empire is the threat, is the problem! And if you’re not willing to say that, if you’re not willing to like cheer on its losses, then you’re not on the same level as you should be. I mean, you’re not where you should be. And I’m sure everyone listening to this is pretty much there, but those are the lines. There’s not a Left, Right, divide. There’s not a third Worldist, whatever it is, divide. It’s just you’re either hoping for this evil entity to fail or you’re not at this point. But, and we’re seeing, hopefully we’re seeing part of it sailing here. We’re going to see it fail more and more.</p>
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<p>So that’s what I’m looking forward to. Not just that, but the visceral feeling when you, like you said, see a cluster munition raining down on Tel Aviv, feels good too. So enjoy it.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> White people the world over shall not be free until organised jewry is disempowered! Inshallah!</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> That <span style="color: #008000;">[chuckling]</span> was the most concise you’ve been all night mate. Superb!</p>
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<p>So, yeah, I think it’s been a very productive stream this evening.</p>
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<p>And I think we’ve talked about a lot of things that people would want us to talk about. And without being boastful, I think that tonight we’ve kind of hit on more or less every major point, unless we haven’t.</p>
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<p>But I think we put a lot of effort, obviously into ensuring that we did hit every major talking point tonight. And this was the, probably, I’d say the most comprehensive coverage of this particular issue that anyone will get. So I’m hoping that you guys enjoyed it. And we are going to do the Superchats now.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:13:54]</span></p>
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<p>So thank you to everyone who has Superchatted. And if you haven’t, there is obviously still time. And remember, if you do send a financial contribution, it’s gratefully received because it’s what allows me to keep doing things like this and doing these streams.</p>
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<p>Anyway, Mr. Skywalker gave $3. Thank you so much! And he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“You and Red Ice were definitely correct about ZOG’s superior tactical advantage, which I never doubted. Still Iran and its proxies and have fared better than expected. Landing hits on ZOG’s military assets.”</span></h3>
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<p>And he goes on with another $3 and said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“It appears ZOG is carpet bombing civilian structures in Iran now, as many military bases and missile sites are up to a thousand feet below ground, very difficult to destroy. Do you think ZOG will use ICBMs?”</span></h3>
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<p>I think we’ve said that actually that fundamentally we are seeing probably a better sort of defense than people may have initially thought. However, obviously going up against the judeo-American empire is absolutely not an easy thing to do they are doing better than we thought.</p>
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<p>And interestingly, the Americans are already resorting to these horrific tactics of bombing civilian structures. Do you think Trump would go as far as using an ICBM?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> It’s possible. You know, who knows? At every juncture where you think Trump isn’t going to do something, you know, sometimes, well, quite often he will just go ahead and do it. The problem with nukes is, one that’s a line that if you cross has real implications. If you drop a nuke on a country just because you started a war and are then subsequently losing that war,</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> If you started a war to stop them having nukes and then when you have lost you use them!</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, it kind of undermines, it’s a massive red line. Like I said, probably implications that none of us even can think about at this stage.</p>
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<p>The second thing is, nukes, for all this talk of tactical nukes, they’re a surface weapon. You detonate them above ground. So they don’t really, in this war against Iran, they don’t really have like a tactical purpose and they would only be used to destroy, like, surface, weak, soft civilian targets, like cities. I mean, nukes are designed to be used on cities that are all like massed troop build-ups, which Iran doesn’t have. So morally it would be reprehensible and tactically it’d be stupid. Although it would just, it would literally just be against civilians. To use them in this war would be like, against civilian targets.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Yeah, it wouldn’t benefit them one bit. And there’s no way that Russia and China would not respond to it. And that’s not saying that they would launch nukes themselves, but there would have to be some kind of bigger response from them. To get more actively involved.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> And I think Natty hit the real point here. The only time nukes have ever been used are on civilian targets. They are not a weapon that is used really for military sites. There’s all this talk of:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, well, people have got tactical nukes now, and a tactical nuke does this and the fallout’s not as great.”</span></h3>
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<p>And we’ve heard all of these sort of takes before, but fundamentally the only proven use for a nuke is to be used against a civilian target. That’s just the way it is.</p>
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<p>And I personally believe that if the Americans did this and took it down that route, it would be this fundamental turning point that I’m not sure the world could recover from that you know, it’s happened obviously twice before and it was horrific what the Americans did to the Japanese. But to do it now and for America to be doing it because they started the war and it wasn’t going their way, I think the world would change in a way that we probably couldn’t actually completely understand right now! But I don’t think it will go nuclear.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much for the two Superchats, though. Ruins in a Landscape gave $50. Thank you so much for such a generous Superchat. Bay of Kings gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thanks, Mark. It appears Natty’s dropped out.”</span></h3>
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<p>One of his devices has come unconnected, it says on the screen. I’m sure he’ll be back. Arab Social Nationalist gave $10. Thank you so much! And said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Thoughts on the spectacle of the Nigerian leader of the opposition, Olukemi Olufuntu Adagoki Badenok and Farage arguing that Starmer hasn’t done enough for the Yanks. There is no opposition in the British establishment. Ignore a whisper of dissent in Parliament. War for jews unites the establishment.”</span></h3>
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<p>I think this is very interesting. And obviously Badenock and Farage are looking at what got Trump to power. Now, fundamentally, Farage and Badenok are both out of power at the moment and I think they’re both kissing up to Israel as much as they can, hoping that that will be their ticket to a Trump style run at Parliament. And let’s face it, although at the moment Farage is the favourite to win the next general election, that can all change. And he is looking at sort of shoring up his position. But Kemi Badenok is looking at going into a general election where she will be decimated.</p>
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<p>So it is interesting to see both Badenoch and Farage fighting to see who can be the most philo-semitic on this particular issue.</p>
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<p>But I’ll say this, and this isn’t meant to be like a cold way to leave the stream, or a black pill at the end or anything of the sort. But there are still an awful lot, and I call them Boomers because they generally are from that sort of age bracket. Now, it’s not to say all Boomers are evil, but there generally is this sort of Boomer mentality of:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, bomb them all! Get rid of the Arabs! We need to support Israel! They’re our greatest ally!”</span></h3>
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<p>And that rhetoric does still appeal to, I would say, a sizable portion of the Boomer population.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, I agree. And because they don’t really want to think about it and the implications of it. So looks like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, something else is going on. Well, to hell with them all! Just blow them all up! Bloody Arabs!”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s a cultivated mentality. That’s not an accident that people say things like that and think things like that. This callous, cold, bloodthirsty, you know, mentality that’s been instilled in people through, I mean, basically like a real use of the term racism, where it’s:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Yeah, Arabs are like dirty brown people and killing them anywhere is good!”</span></h3>
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<p>It’s like well, a normal human being, a moral human being doesn’t actually think that way. And if you’ve been led into thinking that some like, cartoon villain version of like, I don’t know, like a Western man, is ridiculous and retarded and immoral, and the people who put that idea in your head have taken a long time to do it, but have succeeded, if you come out making statements like that.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> And to the extent that it is a naturally occurring phenomenon, it’s as a result of having the Pakistani rape gangs that jewish people and organisations brought here and having the Sunni Wahhabi terrorists who are created by the funding of Saudi Arabia and Israel’s allies.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:22:23]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Oh, yeah, when Israel needed a recruiting ground for ISIS to destabilise Syria, they just used our country. And the overspill where like little girls were getting blown up in concerts or people were getting stabbed on London Bridge, that was exceptional.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> It’s just a bonus to them.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, that was just like a little side project for them.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, thank you so much, guys. We’ll go on to the next Superchat. It’s from Tomorrow’s Victims who gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“The vast majority of us here in Yank land do not want the stupid war. Cheers to all my UK people.”</span></h3>
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<p>Thank you so much! Some Guy 14 gave $10. Thank you so much! And he subscribed for $10. Well, that’s much appreciated. Remember, you can subscribe to me over on Entropy and Rumble, and that means you make a monthly donation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And obviously on Entropy you can subscribe for any amount and Rumble is fixed, $5. But on Rumble, we’ve got a good number of subs now, a good number of followers, and if we had sort of 4 or 500 subs, that would just be phenomenal! And obviously it would really help me financially and it wouldn’t really make a massive difference to people as $5 is what, the price of a large can of Red Bull these days. But if enough people did that, it’d make a huge difference to me.</p>
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<p>We also have one Superchat over on Rumble, only one tonight, and it’s from Archie P007. Thank you so much! Okay, $5. And you said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“I was all in with Trump, the great awakening and all that he has sold his soul for Israeli gold. No one wins a war, only the people suffer always. Follow the money. Trump is Israel first, it seems.”</span></h3>
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<p>Well, yeah, I mean, I obviously, I completely agree with that. Trump is Israel first. And Trump is someone who is absolutely committed to Israel, I think, in a way that I’m not sure we’ve ever seen before. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a president this committed to the state of Israel, which is obviously interesting in itself to say that, to say we’ve never had a president that is this committed to Israel, but he certainly is.</p>
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<p>And at the moment, he is proving his loyalty to that nation to an unbelievable point! And whether this works for him in the long run or not, who knows? But I think it’s fair to say that he is risking everything for his loyalty to people who, &#8230;</p>
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<p>And the interesting thing with these people is they did not support him when he was out in the wilderness. One of the interesting things with Trump is when he was saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Look, the election was rigged.”</span></h3>
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<p>Netanyahu was actually the first foreign leader to say to Biden, to congratulate Biden on his victory. Can you remember that? I mean, Trump went mental about that at the time because he thought Netanyahu was his best friend. But it just goes to show, Trump isn’t actually. Well, he doesn’t actually have any principles whatsoever, does he? Trump is actually a guy that the Israelis can kick him, they can treat him like he’s their boy, their little dog. And when it comes down to it, he will take it time and again.</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Yeah, I mean the only difference, just to add the only difference is how open it is now. I mean, like I said earlier, the other president have probably done everything to the detriment of their own people on behalf of Israel. But Trump is just open about it and everyone gets it and everyone knows now and he’s just still ploughing ahead with it. So there’s the difference with this one.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Anything to add Yuro?</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> No, no, I think we’ve covered most of that already.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Okay, well look, that brings us to the end of the stream.</p>
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<p>Thank you so much to everyone who has been here and obviously if you haven’t Superchatted and you’re watching this on replay, you can donate anytime you like on replay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And if you do support these streams, especially these long form discussions which take a reasonable amount of time to prepare and we put a lot of effort into, please do consider sending a Superchat and we will keep doing them. Anyway guys, if you want to say good night, we’ll go around the group and then we will wrap things up.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[2:26:52]</span></p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Night guys. I have been looking at the chat and there’s been a lot of like pretty decent discussion in there. So I appreciate everyone who’s been here and you know, it’s good, it’s good getting all this down and talking about this because a lot of this stuff is beyond the kind of political divide that you see in this country between even nationalists who say things like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, I don’t care about either side and they can kill each other!”</span></h3>
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<p>And that’s like the best you can hope for out of supposed Right-wingers and dissidents in this country. But I think a sober analysis and a sober talk about what it all means and what’s happening is worthwhile. So thanks to you two and thanks to the chat for turning up and I’ll see you around.</p>
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<p><strong>Yuro:</strong> Yeah, thanks for having me on. It’s been a good talk with both of you. Obviously we do get a bit of this chat going on with the A-Team, which I’m no longer going to be with because Sam’s back unless I’m a stand-in when someone’s away. But it was good to talk about this stuff. And maybe going forward I will get back into doing some sort of show again on my own. Maybe I’ll revive TASOB. Who knows?</p>
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<p><strong>Natty:</strong> Be very happy if you revived TASOB, buddy. So look forward to it.</p>
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<p><strong>Mark Collett:</strong> Well, look, thank you to both of you, it’s been a great chat. I just want to wrap things up by saying thank you to everybody.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, thank you first to Natty and Yuro for giving up their evenings. You know, obviously we enjoy doing this. We’re friends in real life and I think we’ve got pretty good chemistry and I think it’s been a pretty entertaining stream. I would also like to say a huge thank you to everyone who donated. Remember, you can donate at any point you wish.</p>
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<p>And finally, a massive thank you to everybody who tuned in. We had really good attendance night. Lots of people tuning in, lots of people enjoying the stream and a really sort of quick, moving, interesting discussion on both the Odysee and the Rumble chat.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So thank you to everyone who participated.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, I won’t be back on Sunday. It was unlikely I’ll be back on Sunday because it was my son’s birthday this week and we’re having a little party for him on Sunday. So that will likely be something that may run on and I don’t really want to be rushing through that to do a Sunday night film review or stream. I probably just want to enjoy just a little bit of family time, which I’m sure no one begrudges me. And I will be doing that.</p>
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<p>Anyway, I’ll be back on Wednesday for Patriotic Weekly Review. Until then, thank you everybody, good night and look after yourselves.</p>
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Like the English, the Iranians have no other country. Resistance is the only option.</p>
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Aspect of Divinity<br />
5 days ago<br />
I pray to God that the Iranian people succeed in their war against the Zionists and their Western puppets</p>
<p>@RonP1<br />
9 days ago<br />
A safe rule: Never get into bed with the Jew</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
I have a cousin that married a Jewess. He is dead to me. I used to talk to his Mom frequently and she would complain how his wife basically ended Christmas in their family and how she&#8217;s rarely allowed to see her grandchild. I eventually told her &#8220;well what do you expect, he married a Jew&#8221;. She won&#8217;t talk to me anymore lol. My whole family is a bunch of sleepers, but that particular family is fuked. Her other son adopted a South Korean baby when he could have adopted a White baby. I&#8217;m done with that whole family.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
8 days ago<br />
Not a good move, I guess people who are not race-conscious fall into this trap,<br />
they probably believe &#8216;It&#8217;s just a religion&#8217; and end up with an ugly contaminated baby</p>
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8 days ago<br />
Especially someone who marries a Jew, not much you can do there, especially once kids are involved. Even if they subconsciously start to realize their mistake, not only will they never attribute it to the spouse being a Jew, but they are caught in a bind not easily remedied. Same with White people who adopt non-White kids. Dead to me. If there was any possibility to fixing them in the past, that possibility is long gone.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
8 days ago<br />
Imagine working out their Holo story is BS, but having to go along with it for the rest of your life because the wife is Jewish! lol</p>
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I have my doubts my cousin would ever believe at any point that the holo story is a hoax. An old friend of my family also has a son who married a Jewess and from what I know about the 2 families, they are identical &#8211; the Jewess wears the pants, the family is Jewish to the core and Whiteness and Christianity has been stripped away. It&#8217;s pathetic.</p>
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<p>@Theos19<br />
6 days ago<br />
Sounds like jgew hollywood did its work well on that family bro, sorry to hear this. There is nothing more shameful for a white man than to have a mixed breed child. Adopting another child not of your race is one of the most cucked things you can do. Raising another mans offspring with resources that should be for your own &#8211; how f-cking cucked is that. Someone else fcked your girl and put a kid in her, and you are raising their kid LOL. I was in the queue for the checkout once and I got caught staring at a man with his yellow wife (fat b-tch) and his mixed breed freakish looking son, I was with my wife and son around the same age. I couldn&#8217;t help but stare, it was like looking at a crash at the side of the road, or someone freakish you know? The cashier had to call me out and ask if she could help. After he noticed me the guy looked crestfallen and his yellow wife didn&#8217;t have any respect for him whatsoever lol.</p>
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Alice1488<br />
8 days ago<br />
I’m ashamed to admit that I started out as anti jihad, solely because of my job… I tried to rescue English girls from Pakistani Muslims who were mass raping torturing them, I did 20 years in my profession and saw the government as 100% anti White, anti English in every way. Mark et al helped me understand the truth!</p>
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<p>@Theos19<br />
6 days ago<br />
Were you a social worker? I recall some of your comments on live chats over the years, harrowing stuff. Thank you for trying to stand up to evil. God will recognize his own.</p>
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Alice1488<br />
6 days ago<br />
Yes for 20 years! I did rescue many English girls, the youngest was age 8! The government is extremely anti White.</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
9 days ago<br />
Purim explained&#8230;<br />
&#8220;One of the principal Jewish feast-days is that of Purim. This feast is an orgy of hate against Haman, the story of whom is found in the Book of Esther of the Old Testament. The story, which is probably a myth, is that Xerxes, King of Persia, became enamoured of a Jewess, Esther, and made her Queen in place of his rightful wife. Haman, the King&#8217;s minister, complained to him of the conduct of the Jews who, he said, did not keep the laws, and obtained from the King an order to slay them. Esther pleaded with the King and prevailed upon him to summon Haman to a banquet. There, Queen Esther further prevailed upon the King to spare the Jews and hang Haman on a gallows prepared for the execution of her guardian. Instead of the Jews being destroyed, their enemies were slaughtered, including Haman&#8217;s ten sons, who were hanged. This feast is often celebrated by an exhibition of gluttony, intoxication, and curses on the memory of Haman; and even to this day in London, the Jewish bakers make cakes in the shape of human ears which are eaten by the Jews on this day, and are called &#8220;Haman&#8217;s Ears,&#8221; revealing once again the inherent hate and barbarism of the Jew in our midst&#8221;<br />
JRM by Arnold Leese</p>
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8 days ago(edited)<br />
The Young Turks, Anna K and all that group are not &#8220;awakening&#8221;. They are still anti-White and that will never change. While Anna does have harsh words for Jews as well as Israel, she and TYT are still anti-White libtards. Please stop blowing a load in your shorts because you think she&#8217;s hot. It is, indeed, simp behavior and quite embarrassing for us all.<br />
She is/They are ANTI-WHITE. Got it?<br />
Covington was right. Being pro-White is something Whites have a really hard time doing, even those that are racially conscious.</p>
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Judy_Izzum<br />
8 days ago<br />
anti-white or not, she is still the guest of honour at my hand party</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
9 days ago<br />
Civ Nat = Kosher Nationalism</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump comes from the jewish community. He has been around them his entire life. They made his career in realestate in New York. He has belonged to them his whole adult life.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Remember: these jews bombed Qatar to kill Hamas&#8217;s chief negotiator. They&#8217;re out of control, and they cannot be negotiated with.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s not that they don&#8217;t think about it: the British establishment is actively antagonistic towards native British people; it&#8217;s not indifference, it&#8217;s active malice.</p>
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<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
Jews, Muslims, darkies in general. They all gotta go</p>
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8 days ago(edited)<br />
Next false flag: Nuclear attack on USA, EU country or both. Could be an EMP nuke instead of ground attack.<br />
Lots of dissent for this war on both sides of political aisle, they need something like a &#8220;9/11&#8221; to force more Westerners to support the war. Approval is falling hard. They need a false flag event. Also would &#8220;justify&#8221; nuking Iran.</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
8 days ago<br />
Shalom</p>
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Green<br />
9 days ago<br />
Excellent episode title. Spot-on. Thanks for your incredibly important work, Mark.</p>
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Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
THE JEW CRIES OUT IN PAIN AS HE SHITS HIMSELF AT THE BOMB SHELTER!</p>
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<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
yes I know a jew was in charge of the Armenian genocide. And the fact that Armenians are Christians made it so much enjoyable for the jews.</p>
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<p>@Natty<br />
I like that the left woke up to the jq but make no mistake they still hate white men. And want white genocide.</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
The left did not &#8220;wake up to the Jewish question&#8221;. They still love and defend Jews. They do not see the Israel problem as a Jewish problem, they see it as a White Supremacy problem. I know it all sounds so contradictory and stupid, but that is what you get with a brainwashed group of people. They only oppose and support what they are told to, without thinking about it.</p>
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Prison Ships<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Honourable Pastor Chuck Baldwin leads +40k AntiZionist Christians out of Liberty Fellowship Montana.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Tommy Robinson drives a Bentley, all while his rightoid followers pay for his &#8220;legal fund&#8221;.</p>
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Alice1488<br />
8 days ago<br />
The likes are 101 and they need to be 109! Or 110, 111 etc</p>
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Edelweiß<br />
8 days ago<br />
Unless Judeo-Christian civilization is destroyed, the European race will die. Crush Jehovah! Hail Jupiter and give us victory!</p>
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Alice1488<br />
8 days ago<br />
We Whites must destroy the enemy race; they have relentlessly been attempted to destroy us for centuries! We Whites, of European descent must end this madness for the sake of all humanity.</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
9 days ago<br />
it was a bit like watching the A-Team but without the game and gay dancing tbf</p>
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Natty<br />
9 days ago<br />
night guys</p>
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9 days ago<br />
Cheers goyim \o</p>
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<p>@RonP1<br />
9 days ago(edited)<br />
Remember before the 2016 election when the bell end said he would re-investigate 9/11 if he ever got into power</p>
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Ulrich22<br />
9 days ago<br />
most people dont have real opinion at all. they all hope that it goes away and they can forget about it like they did for the last 80 years or so.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Decades of Hollywood propaganda had a big part in it.</p>
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<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
9 days ago<br />
Well done lads, I&#8217;ve learned a lot tonight</p>
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Alice1488<br />
8 days ago<br />
Me too, watching on replay! My friends dog is healing well, and has thoroughly enjoyed the chicken , skin and stock .</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Imagine a future Britain that has normal relations with foreign countries. It&#8217;s not asking for much.</p>
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9 days ago</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
&#8211; Starmer SAYS he&#8217;s not getting involved, but as we know from Gaza, he can assist Israel secretly. Don&#8217;t be quick to believe his public stance.</p>
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<p>@Stryker!<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@VesselofGrace<br />
I may have to return to my roots. lol</p>
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9 days ago<br />
&#8220;Peace through perpetual war, goyim!&#8221;</p>
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<p>@N-towerConstructor<br />
9 days ago<br />
No Iranian ever called me a goyim</p>
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MarcoEire<br />
9 days ago<br />
I don&#8217;t like this new term &#8220;Epstein regime&#8221; it takes away from &#8220;ZOG&#8221;, which is much more poignant.</p>
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8 days ago<br />
&#8220;ZOG&#8221; deters from Jew though.</p>
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Bronze Green Oakwood<br />
5 days ago<br />
“I’m surprised he hasn’t drowned in jewish semen”<br />
That came out of nowhere, nearly spat out my drink there.</p>
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8 days ago(edited)<br />
&#8220;We tried the internet and spent years tapping to one another on keyboards, because we bought into the idea that ‘education’ was the answer, and if we could just get the truth to people, then things would change. Well, education without action isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit. We got the truth to people, all right, and it turned out to be nothing but a bunch of noise that was simply ignored, because the internet was where it stayed. Nobody ever did anything except tap on keyboards. Tapping on keyboards was no threat to them, we just let off steam and nothing changed. It is now crystal clear to any white man with two brain cells to rub together that the only thing that will make these dogs in power hear the word no is the sound of&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Brigade</p>
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9 days ago<br />
They are banking on the Americanisation of British politics, and I think they&#8217;re miscalculating.</p>
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9 days ago<br />
You&#8217;re not as much in the wilderness as you think, Mark. It&#8217;s the Dissident right that has moved the mainstream to the Jewish Question.</p>
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9 days ago<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t lend a jew my lighter, much less die for him. Imagine it.</p>
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9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
His father before him was the exact same.</p>
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9 days ago<br />
Iran, in principle, doesn&#8217;t want to be anyone&#8217;s vassal. They want mutually beneficial relationships, not to be a junior partner.</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
This relationship with Russia is new. Historically, Iran didn&#8217;t have options for buying a new airforce, plus they&#8217;re fixated on developing their own capabilities.</p>
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9 days ago<br />
The jew stands atop a pile of dead children and declares &#8220;AND WHAT, GOY?&#8221;</p>
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9 days ago<br />
The strength of the jew is that he is bold, and he is willing to shock the enemy with acts of depravity that are unthinkable for normal people.</p>
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9 days ago<br />
There&#8217;s no nobility in Western leadership anymore. These decrepit democracies have allowed the lowest filth of society to take power. Good men, sound men, competent men, are locked out of power.</p>
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9 days ago<br />
You can&#8217;t be pro-White and drive wedges between Western countries the way Trump does. He&#8217;s a diplomatic vandal.</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
lol.. its a fun song</p>
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<p>@Germanicus<br />
9 days ago<br />
Purimfest 2026, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m calling it</p>
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<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
Howdy good folk</p>
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9 days ago<br />
howdy troops</p>
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<p>@Stryker!<br />
9 days ago<br />
Lana Loktef or Anna K&#8230;.choose one</p>
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8 days ago(edited)<br />
Dumb question on a channel like this. Anna K is a commie leftist no matter what her views<br />
are on Israel and even Jews. She still believes Whites are evil. She is Anti-White! Lana, on the other hand, it 100% OUR PEOPLE. So, again, dumb question.</p>
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9 days ago<br />
They&#8217;re White enough, for goodness sake.</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago(edited)<br />
I generally like your comments, but as semite you&#8217;re non-White thus you have no place defining who is and is not &#8220;White&#8221;. That is OUR turf. Respect the boundaries (pun intended).</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
jews rock</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
I LOVE JEWS</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
bruh jews rock</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
wtf</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
jews behind it all????</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
gubbermints</p>
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<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
bayonet up the bum is gonna feel like a good option</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
9 days ago(edited)<br />
This comment was slimed to death. (Click to view)</p>
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&#8211; 🗲 GamerMosleyMomentUK 🗲 &#8211;<br />
8 days ago<br />
Maybe not all you Jews are paedophiles, but enough are that we can make these generalizations.</p>
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<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
brutal</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
maybe switch every episode between players so all can play?</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
good night volks</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
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<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
That seems like an age ago</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Boomers-of-the-soul, I call them. And they are mostly evil. It&#8217;s okay to say so.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump is capable of going nut and ordering a nuclear strike. He kept asking about it during his first term, apparently.</p>
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Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
I believe nuclear false flag first on USA, EU or bother, then they blame Iran and will nuke Iran.</p>
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<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
hahaha</p>
<p>Truth hurts<br />
9 days ago(edited)<br />
As far as the &#8221; Greater Israel &#8221; is concerned, Israel has every right to annexe terriories from Judea and Samaria,not because of &#8221; biblical rights &#8221; but because ever since Israel was created has faced constant aggressive wars from its neighbours..<br />
When an aggresor wages a war and looses he has to pay a price.<br />
Palestinians had many chances to create their own state yet they rejected everyone.</p>
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<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
8 days ago<br />
&#8220;ever since Israel was created&#8221;<br />
The creation of Israel was itself the original massive aggression which initiated all the interminable ongoing wars and unrest.<br />
&#8220;Palestinians had many chances to create their own state&#8221;<br />
The Zionists would never allow any viable, truly independent Palestinian state to arise. Such an option has never been on the negotiating table. The Zionist maximalists were determined to complete the ethnic cleansing of Palestine begun with the Nakba right from the beginning. Such hardliners have been openly running Israeli governments since Likud was first elected in 1977, and even before that exercised power from behind the scenes. For example, the creation of the Israeli nuclear weapon capability led by Shimon Perez at the behest of Ben Gurion; and the hardliner initiation of the 1967 Six Day War to take control of the West Bank and Golan Heights.</p>
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8 days ago<br />
So you think that when Israel was created in 1948 ,by concetration camps survivors and a few others and was attacked by 5 Arab countries ,it was able to conduct an aggressive war.Ok</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
9 days ago<br />
So you guys think that if Israel is destroyed, UK and USA will be safer with the goat loving Agiadolahs, who beleive martyrdom and the 72 virgins ,being in charge of Iran&#8217;s nuclear arsenal.<br />
That&#8217;s fine.</p>
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<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
8 days ago<br />
The only reason Muslims pose even the slightest threat to the US or UK is because Jewish-led elites have mass imported them into the US and UK as part of their Great Replacement. The Great Replacement is the Jewish master strategy for stealing White nations from their people. It is not merely Muslims being mass imported. It is infinity non-Whites, both Muslim and non-Muslim.<br />
Jewish supremacism is the fundamental problem, never part of the solution.</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
8 days ago<br />
Wow .I didnt know that the Pakistanis and the Somalians are in the UK because of Israel. Thank you for letting me know.</p>
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<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
8 days ago<br />
Pakistanis and other immivaders are in the UK because of powerful British Jews and the treasonous elites like Tony Blair who are allied with them. Jewish supremacism includes but is very far from being limited to Zionism.</p>
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Truth hurts<br />
7 days ago<br />
Blair brought the Pakistanis <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f604.png" alt="😄" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
ok.</p>
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<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
7 days ago<br />
You really are clueless about history. There were some Pakistanis in Britain before Blair but it was Blair&#8217;s New Labor government which opened the floodgates to mass non-White immigration into the UK. I recall reading an article by Keith Woods a few years ago about this. He quoted statistics.</p>
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5 days ago<br />
Read:<br />
https://archive.org/details/the-death-of-fragility-2nd-edition_202507</p>
<p>@ゼロHope<br />
6 days ago<br />
1:37:25<br />
It is far more accurate to say Trump is saying, do as a I say and i&#8217;ll shot. There is no out option for Iran. It&#8217;s like &#8220;shame they won&#8217;t come to the table&#8221; but also Unconditional surrender, and we blew up the table and the guy negotiating with us.<br />
There is nothing to negotiate. This is like the last time we attacked Iran, Trump started with the negotiating position of, &#8220;bomb yourself.&#8221; What is there to even to discuss? Especially after killing the pope-king of shia islam. You can&#8217;t simply do that, declare victory and leave. Everything of value with in striking distance, Iran will strike. They have choice, they couldn&#8217;t surrender if they wanted to.</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
6 days ago<br />
Ben Gavir currently in hospital and his house burning. so yes, we have seen such attacks</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
6 days ago<br />
they did hit one of the carriers with a drone, but they moved them too far away. why dont you know anything about what you are trying to talk about?</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
6 days ago<br />
Russia can&#8217;t produce infinite airplanes! come on! they don&#8217;t even have enough planes for their own war</p>
<p>Kevin<br />
6 days ago<br />
Russia is helping and Russia has made many public statements, they are just not covered. before the whole thing started every day Russia was sending plane after plane of weapons to them. Russia also spoke to Trump today and seems to have warned him they won&#8217;t let the US topple the government. right after Trump started talking about backing out.</p>
<p>@Kubatism<br />
8 days ago<br />
You are probably right, but the Venezuelan stuff also points to a broader context not discussed here &#8211; the China future war. All Chinese allies: Russia (bogged down in Ukraine), Venezuela (oil), Iran (supports Russian war effort and oil) you’ve got South Africa next (the current Afrikaner emigration policy of US, Ramaphosa humiliated) you’ve got only Brazil and India left &#8211; and India won’t help China</p>
<p>Alice1488<br />
8 days ago<br />
I love listening to Mark, Natty and Yuro! Actually real information about what’s going on! I pray that Isreal is nuked!</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
ALOHA SNACKBAR</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Warren Balogh is the master of this line of thinking</p>
<p>@Natty</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Colonel&#8217;s Fried Chicken was the best</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
9 days ago<br />
https://rocketreach.co/orla-minihane-email_748059991</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
DIdn&#8217;t he mention Ian Wright in particular?</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
In British politics, crumbs from politicians feel like a slap up meal, alas.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
That agreement still has legal force in Libya, if the EU decides to keep up their part.</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
9 days ago<br />
i dont though</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
9 days ago<br />
dawson agrees with you mark</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
I think every leader will get assassinated that are against jews. Remember that Austrian far right prime minister that was killed in a strange car crash?</p>
<p>Hide replies</p>
<p>@W_Poe_White<br />
8 days ago<br />
Jörg Haider, killed in a car crash in 2008 while leading the polls in elections to the Austrian parliament.<br />
&#8220;[Haider] was Governor of Carinthia on two occasions, the long-time leader of the Freedom Party of Austria (FPÖ) and later Chairman of the Alliance for the Future of Austria (Bündnis Zukunft Österreich, BZÖ), a breakaway party from the FPÖ&#8230;.. Haider died in a car accident shortly after leading the BZÖ in the 2008 Austrian parliamentary elections.&#8221;<br />
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Haider</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s because he&#8217;s thick, Mark. It&#8217;s as simple as that.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yes Trump&#8217;s crass vulgarity and his lack of discretion and restraint have helped a lot.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
*more</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Lowe is a tory of the soul, and he&#8217;s on a journey. Perhaps he will do it.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
This stream is the funniest :joy:</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
kek</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They&#8217;re not National Socialists, but they don&#8217;t need to be.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
We crank anti-semites are vindicated. Years of naming them, against the protests of pearl-clutching rightoids is bearing fruit. Enjoy the compliment.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
the donmeh Turks were jews</p>
<p>Natty<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
i get it, shes right now though</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
kek</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s like a British person working for an Indian as a servant.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Natty<br />
Yeah but working for people who genocided you shows a lack of self respect.</p>
<p>Natty<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
everyone comes from somewhere buddy</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Come on Mark an Armenian woman working for Turks? I like people with self respect.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
She wants to be careful though. Sometimes, she&#8217;s seconds from throwing Romans.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
hahaha</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
NO HE IS GREEN!!!</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
She is Armenian</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
MAGA or MIGA</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Tucker is a very naughty goy. He might end up having some sort of accident.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Tucker was recently denounced by Trum and kicked out of the &#8220;MAGA&#8221; movement.</p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Iranians have developed small submarines that are essentially underwater &#8220;drones&#8221; with which they can target American ships. It&#8217;s not just missiles that are a threat to Americans.</p>
<p>@Stryker!<br />
9 days ago<br />
Had a boomer tell me yesterday: &#8220;thank g-d trump bombed Iran. My grandbabbies are safe&#8221; hhhhWuuuuut???</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
My beloved Ana. Watching her journey has been terrific.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
+his jewish mentor</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yep</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
lots of Russian cargo planes delivered something to Iran</p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
9 days ago<br />
We don&#8217;t know because help would certainly not go through official channels. Who knows how much Russian aid actually is.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
&#8220;You have the clock, but we have the time&#8221; &#8211; Some Ayatollah.</p>
<p>@bagelsandloxism<br />
9 days ago<br />
they have hypersonic Iran is an advanced country</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
9 days ago<br />
there are no more missles. they cant be made any faster.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
lawnmowers of mass destruction</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
they say 80%</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
then the party starts</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yeah they&#8217;ve used the old stock to drain the AD systems. The good stuff is yet to come, when the jews run out of American interceptors</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
I hope they wait for the interceptors to be used up first</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
9 days ago<br />
death, death</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
lol</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
or Mario</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Iran has no allies only jew controlled enemies.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s becoming impossible for Iranian moderates to argue against getting the nuclear bomb.</p>
<p>Ulrich22<br />
9 days ago<br />
they suck</p>
<p>Ulrich22<br />
9 days ago<br />
lol russia cant do shit</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
It didn&#8217;t help Syria</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Sanctions &#8211; and historic Russian reluctance to sell them jets</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
because that costs a ton of money</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m sure that fatwa still stands now that he&#8217;s dead.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Iran has this hyper-fixation on self-sufficiency. It&#8217;s noble, but it&#8217;s not always the best way.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
China will look at this shitshow and conclude that they&#8217;ll defeat the Americans if they attempt to stop unification with Taiwan.</p>
<p>Ulrich22<br />
9 days ago<br />
russia and the US suck</p>
<p>Ulrich22<br />
9 days ago<br />
endless whataboutism</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
The heat pumps are good for some things. But not homes and DHW</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
Heat pumps are noisy and do not get hot enough. We have one</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Winter in Europe will get interesting</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
110%</p>
<p>@Natty</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
can you imagine making love to jigsaw</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
imagine the smell&#8230;</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
I wonder what his reaction was when he first saw her knob?</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
yuck.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Nihil sub sōle novum, governments have been doing this since the dawn of time since the first peasant revolts.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
he needed to attack before the midterms</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump is in constant touch with Laura Loomer, and he thinks that she is connected to the base and he listens to her jewish lies.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Franco,</p>
<p>@MarkCollett<br />
Let&#8217;s not forget Franco. He lasted till the 70s.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
Doing that might be the point of no return.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
it depends how much murder the government is willing to commit and I think they will just start mass killing people.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Peace President <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
9 days ago<br />
Of course, everything was done on purpose, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they said that the girls read Mein Kampf.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They could topple the regime. The monarchy is despised.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Murdoch Murdoch episode with the Trump train lol</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
LOL!</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Andrew Neill looks like a clump of haemorrhoids</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
gross</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
HAHAHAHAHA</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They think they can make the state collapse, which means that they refuse to believe that Iran is a real, capable country. This tendency to underestimate and insult the enemy could be their undoing. They did the same with Yemen. They couldn&#8217;t understand the resilience of the Yemenis.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
shows the power of PR and sticking to the script</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
they wanted to hit the girls school</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
yes!</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@why<br />
who is that aimed at?</p>
<p>Natty<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@why<br />
do we?</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
I don&#8217;t know it&#8217;s all the same fake terrorist org working for israel</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
We&#8217;ve been assured they do &#8220;surgical strikes&#8221; for decades. Either they can, or they can&#8217;t &#8211; or they won&#8217;t. It&#8217;s clearly deliberate.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
&#8220;Iran military says Strait of Hormuz remains open, but any US, Israeli ship will be targeted&#8221; lol</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
<iframe title="Israeli Politician: ‘Russia will pay the price’" width="540" height="960" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7x0GX4OlyRc?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
yet you support faggots who want to blame women and hitler &#8212; like keith woods and nativist</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
isis k</p>
<p>@utopia148800</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
You guys remember when a jew was screaming at a Russia Today reporter that Russia will pay for supporting Iran than a few months later a giant ISIS terrorist attack was launched at a Russian Mall?</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
they did the legal games with the German soldiers after the war, too. Instead of POW, called them Disarmed Enemy Forces. To circumvent the Geneva conventions.</p>
<p>0KT0BER<br />
9 days ago<br />
Terror Cimbricus</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
I don&#8217;t think America actually has allies, but I think you hinted at that</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
always, because America is controlled by jews so they essentially act as jews.</p>
<p>@teja<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump Judenknecht!</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yes America does betray its &#8220;allies&#8221;.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
no people just have short memories, When Bush senior told the Shias to rebel against Saddam and America will help them than when they revolted Saddam brutally massacred them and America refused to help.</p>
<p>@N-towerConstructor<br />
9 days ago<br />
I&#8217;m waiting for the sequel to USS Liberty</p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
9 days ago<br />
Right.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s obvious now why Trump kidnapped and took over Venezuala. Oil</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump, with his bad-faith fake negotiations has changed America&#8217;s international standing forever. Who on earth would do a deal with them now? He&#8217;s a diplomatic arsonist. Look what he&#8217;s done to Canada.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Epstein clique works too</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
They are using the term regime since Saddam</p>
<p>@why<br />
9 days ago<br />
what are we talking about guys?</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
And I imagine there no advisors around Trump who are willing to tell him things he doesn&#8217;t want to hear.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump hates nuance, and complexity, and he wants reality to match his simplistic hopes. He wants this to be easy, and he cannot accept that it isn&#8217;t easy at all.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
or, or, jews being stoned.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@why<br />
hahah jews don&#8217;t think so. That&#8217;s why they had Sam Hyde fired.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They&#8217;re targeting the organs of the state: police stations, hospitals, etc.</p>
<p>@N-towerConstructor<br />
9 days ago<br />
Every Single Time</p>
<p>Obscure Truth<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yes, it&#8217;s amazing how they managed to conquer all those countries one by one.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
They are the government. The capital is theirs, and they act as the state.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
I mean what do you except? Tommy is an ex convict and a petty criminal and fraudster. And He claims he is jewish.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
he went full jew slave. Bet he is circumcised too like a good slave.</p>
<p>@N-towerConstructor<br />
9 days ago<br />
Trump went full retard</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Chief_Moody<br />
Hi Chief. I understand why people follow Tommy Robinson, jews are putting tens of millions of Pounds behind him and he has a large organization and social media boost. Essentially he has hundreds of liars on the payroll.</p>
<p>Chief Moody<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
That is true. lol</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Chief_Moody<br />
Tommy&#8217;s been on a coke bender since October 7. I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;s slept for three years.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Albert Einstein wrote a letter to Roosevelt imploring him to use nuclear weapons against Germany but the letter sat on Roosevelt&#8217;s desk because Roosevelt has died overnight.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Andinia Plan</p>
<p>Chief Moody<br />
9 days ago<br />
Tommy Robinson and co have been very ghoulish over Iran. How people still support them, I&#8217;ll never understand.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Israelis are colonising Patagonia right now.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
Japan had already offered surrender 3 times. They still nuked &#8217;em</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s real, Natty. Israeli journalists are happy to talk about it.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s real. They talk about it in Hebrew media.</p>
<p>Chief Moody<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s very blatant what Israel are doing with Iran. It&#8217;s shameless at this point.</p>
<p>Based and butterfly-pilled<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
Being desribed as America&#8217;s streetwalker is like getting pimped out by a literal whore</p>
<p>Hide replies<br />
Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
Well that actually happens once an opportunistic whore ages &#8211; she becomes a pimp.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Well, there is no planning for this war. The war aims change hour to hour, and Iraq was extremely well-organised.</p>
<p>Based and butterfly-pilled<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
It&#8217;s always demoralizing to see conservative patriots in America viewing our country&#8217;s greatest ambition as being Israel&#8217;s bitch</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yeah they just don&#8217;t care. What will the goyim do? Nothing.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
&#8220;The Dossier&#8221;. At least they had that.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@DoubleOhSieben<br />
Farage has been absolutely hysterical over this. &#8220;We have angered the Americans!&#8221;</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
9-11 made the anti-war position more difficult back then.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
Not me. The state of most young fatties, they won&#8217;t even make it to a hospice</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
9 days ago<br />
Has anyone else seen Asmongolds blatant warmongering?</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Once the Bush administration got away with lying about Sadam and terrorism ties and a complete fabrication of weapons of mass destruction, it was GAME OVER for government accountability.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Boomers using their final breaths to comment from their hospice beds.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
Plenty of young folk think that way too sadly</p>
<p>Hide replies<br />
Capitalist Pigs + Communist Thugs = Jews<br />
8 days ago<br />
100%. GenX is largely Boomer 2.0</p>
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Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
The Bahraini government is illegitimate, and delusional. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the government falls during this conflict. The Bahraini people stand with Iran, by and large.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
There was a Yemeni calling in to a Bahrain TV show and the Bahrain TV host said there is no war in Bahrain</p>
<p>Based and butterfly-pilled<br />
9 days ago<br />
Bibi WhataYahoo</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Netanyahu has such contempt for the goyim. The fact that he thinks Americans are stupid is becoming very obvious. A rational person wouldn&#8217;t buy a used car from him.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
The israelis and the the jew controlled countries hiding a damage.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@utopia148800<br />
that&#8217;s what I meant ha ha</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
9 days ago<br />
All true, I wish we weren&#8217;t inundated with ai slop of Tel Aviv</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
jews and degenerates; European America is in the past.</p>
<p>Natty<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
it only looks that way</p>
<p>Based and butterfly-pilled<br />
9 days ago<br />
The absolute state of the USA&#8230;</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Winged Lawnmowers from Hell</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
I just want to see Tel Aviv flattened.</p>
<p>@noreplacement<br />
9 days ago<br />
It is difficult to find any Iranian fight back video. It all looks one way success for the Epstein coalition</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
The UAE is cracking down on videos; Bahrain has banned street gatherings; the jews are cracking down on footage of Tel Aviv. The true extent of this madness won&#8217;t be cleat until the dust &#8211; or sand &#8211; settles.</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s hard to be circumspect, but it&#8217;s best to be cautious and not get one&#8217;s hopes up.</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
haha you do it than.</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
9 days ago<br />
Yuro needs a wedgie tbh</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
9 days ago<br />
PURIM FEST 26</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
Evening volks!</p>
<p>MarcoEire<br />
9 days ago<br />
Excellent Germanicus</p>
<p>Secure the future of our people<br />
9 days ago<br />
It&#8217;s karma for Mark being very mean to Sam last stream!</p>
<p>Based and butterfly-pilled<br />
9 days ago<br />
Greetings fellow Social Nationalists</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
\o</p>
<p>Esau rising<br />
9 days ago</p>
<p>@ArabSocialNationalist<br />
o/</p>
<p>@Aunt-Sally<br />
9 days ago<br />
Natty <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f970.png" alt="🥰" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Natty<br />
9 days ago<br />
thats good lol</p>
<p>Arab Social Nationalist<br />
9 days ago<br />
Greetings war-weary goyim.</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
o/</p>
<p>@Jagdtiger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Epstein regime</p>
<p>@vengeance<br />
9 days ago<br />
o/</p>
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0</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/05/21/joel-davis-on-australian-nationalism-with-matthew-grant-dec-17-2022-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Joel Davis &#8211; On Australian Nationalism with Matthew Grant &#8211; Dec 17, 2022 &#8211; Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/05/27/joel-davis-the-white-australia-policy-with-matthew-grant-jul-27-2023-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Joel Davis &#8211; The White Australia Policy with Matthew Grant &#8211; Jul 27, 2023 &#8211; Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2023/10/28/joel-davis-on-activist-politics-and-white-advocacy-pa-conference-speech-oct-7-2023-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Joel Davis &#8211; On Activist Politics and White Advocacy &#8211; PA Conference Speech &#8211; Oct 7, 2023 &#8211; Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/04/17/slightly-offensive-debate-is-diversity-our-strength-joel-davis-vs-drew-pavlou-apr-5-2024-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Slightly Offensive &#8211; Debate &#8211; Is Diversity Our Strength? &#8211; Joel Davis vs Drew Pavlou &#8211; Apr 5, 2024 &#8211; Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/06/07/joel-davis-mass-deportations-enthusiasm-twitter-politics-activist-persecution-jun-6-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Mass Deportations Enthusiasm, Twitter Politics &amp; Activist Persecution – Jun 6, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/06/14/joel-davis-the-vibe-has-shifted-and-the-paradigm-is-shifting-jun-13-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – The Vibe Has Shifted and the Paradigm is Shifting – Jun 13, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/06/18/slightly-offensive-is-america-the-west-over-guest-joel-davis-may-31-2024-transcript/">Slightly Offensive – Is America (&amp; the West) Over? – Guest – Joel Davis – May 31, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/06/22/joel-davis-polarisation-phases-with-blair-tom-jun-20-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – Polarisation Phases – with Blair &amp; Tom – Jun 20, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/06/28/joel-davis-conservative-terrorism-in-australia-as-trump-set-to-become-new-zog-boss-jun-28-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Conservative Terrorism in Australia as Trump Set to Become New ZOG Boss – Jun 28, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/07/05/joel-davis-muslims-to-create-their-own-party-as-extremism-experts-cry-about-us-to-the-media-jul-4-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – Muslims to Create Their Own Party as “Extremism Experts” Cry About US to the Media – Jul 4, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/07/20/joel-davis-trump-inevitable-blair-censored-paedo-freaks-destroyed-jul-19-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Trump Inevitable, Blair Censored, Paedo Freaks Destroyed – Jul 19, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/07/26/joel-davis-when-will-enough-be-enough-jul-25-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – When Will Enough Be Enough? – Jul 25, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/08/03/joel-davis-mass-deportations-now-aug-1-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Mass Deportations Now! – Aug 1, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/08/24/joel-davis-wargaming-the-response-as-communists-organise-brown-parasites-aug-22-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Wargaming the Response as Communists Organise Brown Parasites – Aug 22, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-20241018-Joel-Davis-Part-3-9.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36927" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/SEE-ALSO-COVERS-20241018-Joel-Davis-Part-3-9.jpg" alt="" width="560" height="860" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/2024/09/28/joel-davis-building-nationalism-from-the-ground-up-sep-26-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Joel Davis – Building Nationalism from the Ground Up – Sep 26, 2024 – Transcrip</span>t</a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/10/04/joel-davis-political-existentialism-zionist-hypocrisy-austrians-vote-for-remigration-oct-3-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Political Existentialism, Zionist Hypocrisy, Austrians Vote for Remigration – Oct 3, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/10/10/joel-davis-jews-turn-hersant-into-a-free-speech-martyr-oct-9-2024-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Jews Turn Hersant into a Free Speech Martyr – Oct 9, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/10/17/mark-collett-patriotic-weekly-review-with-jacob-hersant-oct-16-2024-transcript/" rel="next">Mark Collett – Patriotic Weekly Review – with Jacob Hersant – Oct 16, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/11/13/joel-davis-zog-sends-in-the-fun-police-donald-trump-white-power-nov-7-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – ZOG Sends in the Fun Police, Donald Trump White Power – Nov 7, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/11/15/joel-davis-the-enemy-is-weaker-than-you-think-nov-14-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – The Enemy is Weaker Than You Think – Nov 14, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2024/11/22/joel-davis-its-not-about-race-nov-21-2024-transcript/">Joel Davis – “It’s Not About Race” – Nov 21, 2024 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/02/17/joel-davis-the-self-imploding-legitimacy-of-our-opposition-why-are-they-so-afraid-feb-14-2025-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – The Self-Imploding Legitimacy of Our Opposition, Why Are They So Afraid? – Feb 14, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/03/24/mark-collett-can-national-socialism-be-resurrected-with-joel-davis-mar-23-2025-transcript/">Mark Collett – Can National Socialism Be Resurrected? – with Joel Davis – Mar 23, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/04/12/joel-davis-so-much-has-happened-but-were-only-just-getting-started-apr-11-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – So Much Has Happened, But We’re Only Just Getting Started – Apr 11, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/04/25/joel-davis-what-did-the-anzacs-fight-for-apr-24-2025-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – What Did the Anzacs Fight For? – Apr 24, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/04/29/australians-vs-the-agenda-with-joel-davis-apr-28-2025-transcript/">Australians Vs. the Agenda with Joel Davis – Apr 28, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/05/04/joel-davis-nazi-trolling-is-still-the-only-interesting-thing-in-australian-politics-may-2-2025-transcript/" aria-current="page">Joel Davis – Nazi Trolling is Still the Only Interesting Thing in Australian Politics – May 2, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/05/17/joel-davis-defiance-may-16-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – Defiance – May 16, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/06/02/joel-davis-symbolic-victory-may-30-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – Symbolic Victory – May 30, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/06/08/joel-davis-tactical-n-word-jun-6-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – Tactical N-Word – Jun 6, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/07/11/joel-davis-the-chink-question-jul-4-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – The Chink Question – Jul 4, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/07/11/joel-davis-the-chink-question-jul-4-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – The Chink Question – Jul 4, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/07/17/joel-davis-mechahitler-a-manifestation-of-musks-machiavellianism-or-something-more-jul-11-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – MechaHitler – a Manifestation of Musk’s Machiavellianism, or Something More? – Jul 11, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/07/24/joel-davis-zionist-paedophile-occupied-government-jul-17-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – Zionist (Paedophile) Occupied Government – Jul 17, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/08/03/joel-davis-another-week-of-political-drama-jul-27-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – Another Week of Political Drama – Jul 27, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/08/07/joel-davis-the-goonright-pipeline-with-mark-collett-aug-6-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – The Goonright Pipeline – with Mark Collett – Aug 6, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/08/16/thomas-sewell-masters-of-our-own-destiny-aug-10-2025-transcript/">Thomas Sewell – Masters of Our Own Destiny – Aug 10, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/08/22/jacob-hersant-speech-at-nsn-victoria-aug-10-2025-transcript/" aria-current="page">Jacob Hersant – Speech at NSN, Victoria – Aug 10, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/08/23/joel-davis-the-fire-rises-aug-22-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – The Fire Rises – Aug 22, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/08/28/mark-collett-patriotic-weekly-review-with-thomas-sewell-aug-27-2025-transcript/">Mark Collett – Patriotic Weekly Review – with Thomas Sewell – Aug 27, 2025 – Transcript</a> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/08/31/blair-cottrell-the-march-for-australia-a-national-immune-response-aug-27-2025-transcript/">Blair Cottrell – The March for Australia – A National Immune Response – Aug 27, 2025 – Transcript</a> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/09/03/blair-cottrell-australians-unite-to-stop-immigration-aug-31-2025-transcript/">Blair Cottrell – Australians Unite to Stop Immigration – Aug 31, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/09/05/joel-davis-patriots-in-control-of-the-streets-aug-29-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – Patriots in Control of the Streets – Aug 29, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/09/06/thomas-sewells-speech-at-the-march-for-australia-rally-in-melbourne-aug-31-2025-transcript/">Thomas Sewell’s Speech at the March for Australia Rally in Melbourne – Aug 31, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/09/08/joel-davis-reflections-on-the-march-for-australia-sep-7-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – Reflections on the March for Australia – Sep 7, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/09/15/joel-davis-the-only-solution-to-antifascism-is-fascism-sep-14-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – The Only Solution to Antifascism is Fascism – Sep 14, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/09/24/the-offaly-offensive-tim-lutze-part-1-sep-20-2025-transcript/">The Offaly Offensive – Tim Lutze – Part 1 – Sep 20, 2025 – Transcript</a> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/09/27/the-offaly-offensive-tim-lutze-part-2-sep-27-2025-transcript/">The Offaly Offensive – Tim Lutze – Part 2 – Sep 27, 2025 – Transcript</a> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/10/06/joel-davis-aint-no-party-like-the-white-australia-party-oct-5-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – Ain’t No Party Like the White Australia Party – Oct 5, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/10/19/the-offaly-offensive-blair-cottrell-part-1-oct-12-2025-transcript/">The Offaly Offensive – Blair Cottrell – Part 1 – Oct 12, 2025 – Transcript</a> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a style="color: #0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/2025/10/25/the-offaly-offensive-blair-cottrell-part-2-oct-17-2025-transcript/">The Offaly Offensive – Blair Cottrell – Part 2 – Oct 17, 2025 – Transcript</a></span></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/2025/10/28/counter-currents-radio-no-629-joel-davis-and-the-ns-question-mar-26-2025-transcript/" aria-current="page">Counter-Currents Radio No. 629 – Joel Davis and the NS Question – Mar 26, 2025 – Transcript</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/2025/11/03/joel-davis-nsn-conference-speech-aug-10-2025-transcript/">Joel Davis – NSN Conference Speech – Aug 10, 2025 – Transcript</a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; Christopher Bollyn &#160; Tricked into War: Israeli Zionist Government was &#160; Behind the 9/11 Attack &#160; Thu, Sep 20, 2018 &#160; [In this 2018 presentation Christopher Bollyn, an American investigative journalist and author of several books on 9/11 sets &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2024/09/12/christopher-bollyn-tricked-into-war-israeli-zionist-government-was-behind-the-9-11-attack-sep-20-2018-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Christopher Bollyn</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Tricked into War: Israeli Zionist Government was</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> Behind the 9/11 Attack</span></h1>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #000000;">Thu, Sep 20, 2018</span></h1>
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[In this 2018 presentation Christopher Bollyn, an American investigative journalist and author of several books on 9/11 sets out in detail, naming names, on why and how Israel carried out the, years in preparation, false flag attack 9/11, i.e., to unleash The War OF Terror on the Middle East using American blood and treasure.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Some points Bollyn makes, include:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Is an author of books on 9/11 and the War on Terror.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">9/11 and the War on Terror are connected and part of an Israeli plan.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;9/11 was a policy coup&#8221; blamed on Muslims to start the War on Terror.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The War on Terror aims to redraw the Middle East map according to Israeli interests.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Menachem Begin, founder of Likud party, is described as &#8220;the father of terrorism&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">9/11 was designed to &#8220;instill fear and rage in the American population&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The War on Terror is &#8220;the longest and most expensive war, foreign war in US history&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Trump is quoted: &#8220;We have spent $7 trillion in the Middle East. You know what we have for it? Nothing!&#8221;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The War on Terror is &#8220;based on the official myth of 9/11&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Wesley Clark is quoted describing a &#8220;policy coup&#8221; by &#8220;hard-nosed people&#8221; after 9/11.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">The plan is to &#8220;take out seven countries in five years&#8221; starting with Iraq.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">This follows the &#8220;Yinon Plan&#8221; to break up Arab states into smaller entities.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Hillary Clinton is mentioned as seeking to overthrow Syria&#8217;s government &#8220;to save Israel&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Asks &#8220;Is the United States waging Israel&#8217;s wars?&#8221;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Israel wants to expand from &#8220;the Nile river to the Euphrates&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Christian Zionism is &#8220;a big problem&#8221; in supporting Israel.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">John F. Kennedy was &#8220;the last great reformer&#8221; who challenged these interests.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Israeli control of airport security.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">&#8220;9/11 was also a computer crime&#8221; involving Israeli software companies.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">He suggests &#8220;revolutions are not made&#8221; with 99% support, but with a critical mass.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Encourages informing local police, community leaders, and churches about 9/11.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Now lives in Sweden after being prosecuted in the US.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">His latest book is &#8220;The War on Terror: The Plot to Rule the Middle East&#8221;.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">– KATANA]</span></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><a style="color: #ff0000;" href="https://rumble.com/v3kehtc-tricked-into-war-israeli-zionist-government-was-behind-the-911-attack-septe.html">https://rumble.com/v3kehtc-tricked-into-war-israeli-zionist-government-was-behind-the-911-attack-septe.html</a></span></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><a style="color: #ff0000;" href="http://www.bollyn.com/">http://www.bollyn.com/</a></span></h3>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;">Update, Sep 12, 2025: See also this Substack post with lots of links:</h3>
<h3 style="text-align: center;" data-wpview-marker="https%3A%2F%2Fbinkylarue.substack.com%2Fp%2Fisrael-and-elements-of-the-us-government"><a href="https://binkylarue.substack.com/p/israel-and-elements-of-the-us-government"><span style="color: #0000ff;">https://binkylarue.substack.com/p/israel-and-elements-of-the-us-government</span></a></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><strong>Published on Thu, Sep 20, 2018</strong></p>
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Christopher Bollyn &#8211; Tricked Into War: Israeli Zionist Government Was Behind The 9/11 Attack (2018)<br />
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An independent analysis of the events of September 11, 2001.<br />
Includes historical and geo-political background and examines the motivation of the people who played key roles in the destruction of the evidence and the obstruction of justice for the families of the victims.<br />
Investigative journalist and best selling author Christopher Bollyn makes the case for why he believes the Israeli Zionist government was behind the 9/11 attack.<br />
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<p><strong>Christopher Bollyn:</strong> Hello. Good afternoon. My name is Christopher Bollyn. Thank you for coming.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5567.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36542" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5567.jpg" alt="" width="728" height="536" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5567.jpg 728w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5567-600x442.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 728px) 100vw, 728px" /></a></p>
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<p>And I want to thank the people that organized this conference today. Today we’re going to do a 58 minutes presentation to keep it within constraints for a video. And I’m talking about “<em>Tricked into War</em>”.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5568.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36543" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5568.jpg" alt="" width="992" height="521" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5568.jpg 992w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5568-600x315.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5568-768x403.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 992px) 100vw, 992px" /></a></p>
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<p>Now, I’m not going to go into great detail about the 9/11 crime. The details of the 9/11 crime would take up hours and hours of discussion. I’ve talked about 9/11 and the evidence in other videos, and they’re on YouTube. And I’ve written several books about 9/11.</p>
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<p>Today I’m talking about how 9/11 and the War on Terror are connected and linked. This nation has been at war for 17 years. As Donald Trump said the other day, we spent $7 trillion and got nothing for it.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5570.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36545" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5570.jpg" alt="" width="917" height="494" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5570.jpg 917w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5570-600x323.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5570-768x414.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 917px) 100vw, 917px" /></a></p>
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<p>The United States and Syria are at face to face confrontation in Syria as we speak. Russian planes are being shot down with Israeli involvement, off the coast of Syria. And the media in this country barely touches it. All the media in this country talks about is sexual peccadilloes between Kavanaugh and some girl in high school. They say nothing about the situation in Syria, which is very important.</p>
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<p>So, I’m the author of Solving 9/11. And as I’ve said in previous presentations, Solving 9/11 ends the war! I was an investigative journalist in Washington, DC when 9/11 started. Here I am presenting evidence of the first citizens Grand Jury in Los Angeles.</p>
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<p>And I’m the author of the Solving 9/11 set of books. And the latest book is the War on Terror, which is a very small book about the War on Terror.</p>
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<p>The Solving 9/11 set of books investigate various aspects of the false flag of terror atrocity. But my main focus is who is behind 9/11 and why was it done? This is the book of original articles. This is the latest book. I wrote this last summer, The War on Terror, the Plot to Rule the Middle East.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5574.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36549" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5574.jpg" alt="" width="978" height="533" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5574.jpg 978w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5574-600x327.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5574-768x419.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 978px) 100vw, 978px" /></a></p>
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<p>911 was a policy coup. It was blamed on Muslims. 9/11 was blamed on Muslims in order to initiate, to start the War on Terror as an operational war. But behind the War on Terror is a covert strategic plan to redraw the map of the Middle East. You might ask yourself, why is the United States in Syria? We have no national interest in Syria. We haven’t had it for a long, long, long time.</p>
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<p>Yet we have troops there. We’re occupying the third eastern part of the country from the Euphrates river to Iraq. And we have also occupied the southern part of the country where Syria butts up against both Jordan and Iraq. Why are we there? What’s the purpose?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5575.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36550" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5575.jpg" alt="" width="969" height="525" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5575.jpg 969w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5575-600x325.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5575-768x416.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 969px) 100vw, 969px" /></a></p>
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<p>Well, 9/11 and the War on Terror were both conceived by Israeli Military Intelligence in the 1970s when Menachem Begin, the head of the Likud Party, came to power. Menachem Begin is known as the “<em>father of terrorism</em>”. Here he is.</p>
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<p>He’s the founder of the Likud Party. He was born in Russia, came to Palestine in 42, became leader of the Irgun in 44, which was a terrorist group. Bombed the King David Hotel, killing 93 people. British headquarters in 1946. Then was involved in the massacre of the Dir Yasin village, which was meant to scare the Palestinians to fleeing, which many did. And he created the Likud Party in 1973, became prime minister in 77, and promptly invaded Lebanon in 1978.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5577.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36552" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5577.jpg" alt="" width="974" height="553" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5577.jpg 974w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5577-600x341.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5577-768x436.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 974px) 100vw, 974px" /></a></p>
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<p>This is the emblem of the Irgun which he was the head of its a jewish terrorist group and it’s connected to the Netanyahu family, because Mr Netanyahu’s father was the director of this movement, the Irgun, and the New Zionist organization since 1940.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5578.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36553" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5578.jpg" alt="" width="973" height="528" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5578.jpg 973w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5578-600x326.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5578-768x417.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 973px) 100vw, 973px" /></a></p>
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<p>Here is both Mr Begin and Netanyahu. These men are cut from the same cloth. This is the group that they belong to the great group that they have allegiance to is a group of terrorists.</p>
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<p>In 1974, a British journalist asked Mr Begin, he said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“How does it feel in the light of all that’s going on to be seen as the father of terrorism in the Middle East?”</span></h3>
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<p>And Begin said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“In the Middle East?”</span></h3>
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<p>He said:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“In all the world!”</span></h3>
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<p>So he put on himself the mantle of being the father of terrorism in all the world. That’s his words.</p>
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<p>Well, 9/11 was a false flag terror atrocity that was designed to instill fear and rage in the American population, so that we would accept and we would get behind this War on Terror.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5579.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36554" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5579.jpg" alt="" width="979" height="520" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5579.jpg 979w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5579-600x319.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5579-768x408.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 979px) 100vw, 979px" /></a></p>
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<p>And I have to say it succeeded very well. 17 years later, we are still involved in the War on Terror. There is virtually no public resistance to it, and there is no political resistance to it.</p>
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<p>But starting the War on Terror, the open ended War on Terror, was the primary reason for the false flag terror attacks of 9/11.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5580.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36555" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5580.jpg" alt="" width="983" height="544" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5580.jpg 983w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5580-600x332.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5580-768x425.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 983px) 100vw, 983px" /></a></p>
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<p>911 was a policy coup that brought us a Global War On Terror and a series of disastrous wars across the region. They call it “<em>The Long War</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5581.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36556" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5581.jpg" alt="" width="990" height="558" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5581.jpg 990w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5581-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5581-768x433.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 990px) 100vw, 990px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The War on Terror is a suitable title because the War on Terror is the longest and most expensive war, foreign war in us history, yet there is no resistance to it. How can that be? How can the American people be so numb to American war fighting in a dozen countries across the Middle East?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, the main reason is because it’s out of sight, out of mind. Unless you have family involved in the war, you don’t hear about it on TV. You don’t hear about it on the radio. You don’t read about it in the newspapers. Not like Vietnam. Vietnam, we heard about, we saw pictures on Life magazine. Today we see nothing. Nothing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[05:51]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is what Donald Trump said in April <span style="color: #008000;">[April 28, 2018]</span>. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5582.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36557" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5582.jpg" alt="" width="987" height="549" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5582.jpg 987w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5582-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5582-768x427.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 987px) 100vw, 987px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3></h3>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We have spent $7 trillion. Trillion with a that, $7 trillion in the Middle East. You know what we have for it? Nothing! Nothing!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he’s absolutely right! As the author of the Art of the Deal, you would think that he would see that this is a very bad deal and rectify it as soon as possible.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The War on Terror is all based., &#8230; It’s not just a name, it’s an authorization, it’s a title. It’s an authorization and funding. And it was passed two days after 9/11, three days after 9/11, by the Authorization for Use of Military Force, which basically gave the president the authority to wage war against anybody he thought was behind 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5583.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36558" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5583.jpg" alt="" width="985" height="549" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5583.jpg 985w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5583-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5583-768x428.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 985px) 100vw, 985px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So these are some of the places where we, where the authorization used military force has been invoked.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5584.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36559" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5584.jpg" alt="" width="990" height="553" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5584.jpg 990w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5584-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5584-768x429.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 990px) 100vw, 990px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Was Eritrea? Was Somalia? Were they involved in 9/11? Was Libya involved in 9/11? We, of course, heard about Afghanistan. But are all these countries involved in 9/11? No, of course they’re not! But the authorization to use military force based on 9/11 crime has been abused, terribly abused! It opened up the pandora’s box for American open ended war fighting across the Middle East, around the world actually.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5585.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36560" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5585.jpg" alt="" width="992" height="517" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5585.jpg 992w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5585-600x313.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5585-768x400.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 992px) 100vw, 992px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The fraudulent War on Terror is based on the official myth of 9/11. They go hand in hand. The War on Terror is a criminal fraud.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5586.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36561" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5586.jpg" alt="" width="988" height="550" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5586.jpg 988w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5586-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5586-768x428.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 988px) 100vw, 988px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We are spending about $400 million per person, per US victim of terrorism per year. So for a cause of death, if you have cancer or influenza, you get pennies! This stack of bills would have to be 1,000 times higher to reflect the amount of money that’s being spent per victim of terrorism. Terrorism is not a leading cause of death in this country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5587.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36562" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5587.jpg" alt="" width="996" height="548" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5587.jpg 996w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5587-600x330.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5587-768x423.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 996px) 100vw, 996px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The War on Terror is an Israeli stratagem pushed by Netanyahu since 1979 to trick the United States into waging war against Israel’s enemies.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5588.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36563" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5588.jpg" alt="" width="984" height="552" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5588.jpg 984w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5588-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5588-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 984px) 100vw, 984px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The War on Terror is based on the 9/11 lie. And unfortunately, Donald Trump has adopted that lie. He said in August of 2017:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“9/11, the worst terrorist attack in our history, was planned and directed from Afghanistan because that country was ruled by a government that gave comfort and shelter to terrorists.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he said that as he increased military presence and effort in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5589.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36564" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5589.jpg" alt="" width="986" height="553" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5589.jpg 986w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5589-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5589-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 986px) 100vw, 986px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Wesley Clark, who was running for president, this was the man who ran US military forces in Europe during the Yugoslavia campaign. And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Whether you’re a Democrat, or a Republican, if you’re an American, you ought to be concerned about the strategy of the United States in this region. What is our aim? What is our purpose? Why are we there? Why are Americans dying in this region? That is the issue.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What happened on 9/11 is that we didn’t have a strategy, we didn’t have bipartisan agreement, we didn’t have American understanding of it, and we had instead a policy coup in this country. A coup! A policy coup! Some hard nosed people took over the direction of American policy, and they never bothered to inform the rest of us.”</span></h3>
<p>&nbsp;</p></blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5590.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36565" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5590.jpg" alt="" width="989" height="553" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5590.jpg 989w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5590-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5590-768x429.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 989px) 100vw, 989px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He should know. Who’s he talking about? He’s talking about the Zionist neocons. These three people here, Paul Wolfowitz, Dov Zakheim, Douglas Feith. They’re three of the Defense Policy Board members who crafted the policy for the Pentagon that was put into effect after 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5591.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36566" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5591.jpg" alt="" width="986" height="552" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5591.jpg 986w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5591-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5591-768x430.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 986px) 100vw, 986px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here they are a few months after 9/11, meeting with the Israeli Chief of Staff right here, Shaul Mufaz. He’s the highest military person in Israel. And they’re discussing, what will America be doing? Well, Wesley Clark heard about the memo. He got the memo ten days after 9/11. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5592.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36567" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5592.jpg" alt="" width="984" height="548" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5592.jpg 984w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5592-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5592-768x428.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 984px) 100vw, 984px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I went through the Pentagon and I saw Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. One of the generals called me in and said, ‘Sir, we’ve made the decision, we’re going to war with Iraq’.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I don’t know.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I came back a few weeks later and by that time we were bombing Afghanistan. I said, ‘are we still going to war with Iraq?’.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh, sir, it’s much worse than that. We’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off with Iran.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as you can see from this shopping list of this agenda, all of those countries have been done with the exception of Iran.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, what’s going on here is that an Israeli plan known as the Yinon Plan, which was articulated in 1982, is being put into effect. So that countries are being balkanized. That is, they’re being broken up into ethnic statelets.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5594.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36568" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5594.jpg" alt="" width="992" height="546" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5594.jpg 992w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5594-600x330.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5594-768x423.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 992px) 100vw, 992px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They’re causing friction between the various ethnic groups, breaking them up into ethnic statelets. That’s the name of the game in Syria. That’s what they did in Iraq. That’s what’s happened in Libya. Etcetera. This is the Israeli plan to dominate the Middle East by breaking up the large Arab states and breaking up their armies and breaking the countries into pieces like Yugoslavia. There will be no competition for Israel, and Israel will have hegemony over the entire region.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5595.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36569" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5595.jpg" alt="" width="986" height="511" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5595.jpg 986w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5595-600x311.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5595-768x398.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 986px) 100vw, 986px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here’s Hillary Clinton. Some people point out that her emblem here is very reminiscent of 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But in 2012, Secretary of State Clinton wrote that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The best way to help Israel vis a vis Iran’s nuclear ambitions is to use force in Syria to overthrow the government.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This email proves that the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton sought to overthrow the government of Syria, elected government of Syria, to save Israel, to serve Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So if you understand that, you will understand why we are doing what we’re doing in Iran today or in Syria today.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I just read an article yesterday that says that the United States presence will continue in Syria beyond the end of the year because the mission has changed. The mission now is to prevent, is to kick Iran out of Syria. So American forces are now in Syria to battle with Iran and push Iran back. Did we choose that? Has Congress chosen that? Has anybody spoken about that? Of course not.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[11:43]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This photograph is from the Yarmouk, a Palestinian refugee camp in Damascus.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5596.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36570" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5596.jpg" alt="" width="991" height="556" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5596.jpg 991w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5596-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5596-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 991px) 100vw, 991px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is one of the ways that terrorism is used to destroy the lives of common people. The Palestinians are refugees since 19 47, 48 in Damascus. And what happened is that ISIS was infiltrated into this camp, ISIS, the terror group. And that brought about fire into the camp. Syrian, Russian, American, whoever was fighting against ISIS in this place, and it destroyed the camp. This camp used to house 120,000 people. Today it houses 200.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So these Palestinians were made a target, just like the people of Raqqa, Mosul, or any other place. ISIS is the target, and they put that target wherever they want and then destroy everything around the target.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5597.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36571" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5597.jpg" alt="" width="979" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5597.jpg 979w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5597-600x332.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5597-768x424.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 979px) 100vw, 979px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the question is, this is from Linda Heard, a British expert in the Middle East. She says, is the United States waging Israel’s wars? She said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There is one thing that we do know. Oded Yinon’s 1982 Zionist plan for the Middle East is in large part taking shape. Is this coincidence? Was Yinon a psychic? Maybe.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>She says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Alternatively, we in the West are victims of a long held agenda, not of our making, and without a doubt, not in our interests.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we’re waging war for another entity, for another nation, for another interest that’s not ours, and we’re paying for it. Our sons and daughters are fighting it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5598.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36572" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5598.jpg" alt="" width="990" height="559" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5598.jpg 990w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5598-600x339.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5598-768x434.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 990px) 100vw, 990px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is the partition of Palestine. When it happened in 1947, Menachem Begin rejected it. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Jerusalem was and will forever be our capital. And Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel, all of it and forever!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is to give you an idea what Eretz Israel means. It means the land of Israel. And according to people like Menachem Begin, it extends from the Nile river to the Euphrates.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5626.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36602" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5626.jpg" alt="" width="911" height="515" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5626.jpg 911w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5626-600x339.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5626-768x434.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 911px) 100vw, 911px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this area right here is the Kurdish area, which happens to be occupied by the United States. This is all Syria right here. This is where the United States is occupying one third of Syria.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5599.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36575" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5599.jpg" alt="" width="994" height="560" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5599.jpg 994w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5599-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5599-768x433.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 994px) 100vw, 994px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>These are the various ethnic communities, religions, factions in Iraq and Syria. And from the Yinon plan, Yinon said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The dissolution of Syria in Iraq is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern Front. The dissolution of the military power of these states serves as the primary short term target.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is exactly what we did when we went to Iraq first 1991, and then again in 2003, we destroyed the Iraqi military.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you remember, one of the first things that happened is when we got into Iraq, we disbanded the entire military, sent everybody home. No more jobs, no entitlements, nothing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the military went away. And in Syria, we’ve been trying to do the same thing for the last seven years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36576" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5600.jpg 1181w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, this is another break here. This area, this area here, periwinkle, is the area of the Kurds. And this area is where most of the oil is. And the United States and Israel are supporting the Kurdish independence. This area here in northern Iraq and this part of northern Syria. And in pursuing that, the largest holder of the reserves in this Kurdistan area of Iraq is a company called Janelle Energy, which is a Rothschild company.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they’re going after the strategic assets. And these two cities, Mosul and Raqqa, were targets of the American anti-terrorist attacks last summer, which destroyed those cities. Destroyed them!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36577" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601-1024x555.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="347" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601-1024x555.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601-600x325.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601-768x416.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5601.jpg 1178w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here’s Mosul in June of 2017. The great mosque of all Nuri, destroyed in the battle of Mosul. The Americans put our artillery around the cities and just pounded them for months. And that has a price. Here’s Syria, the other city in Raqqa, in Syria, October 2017, at least half the city is totally destroyed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36578" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602-1024x542.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="339" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602-1024x542.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602-600x318.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602-768x407.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5602.jpg 1182w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, here you have to understand that these are on the edge of the Kurdish area. But these cities are, Mosul is the second biggest city in Iraq. They contained a lot. They were inhabited by a lot of Sunni Muslims, and that’s why they were pounded. So we said we were fighting ISIS, but under the pretext of fighting ISIS, we destroyed the cities and pushed a lot of people into become refugees.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36579" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603-1024x546.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="341" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603-1024x546.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603-600x320.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603-768x410.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5603.jpg 1168w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The northern part of both Iraq and Syria are peopled by the Kurds. And this was the leader of the Kurdish movement in Iraq. He resigned shortly after his failed attempt to separate the country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5604.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36580" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5604.jpg" alt="" width="982" height="652" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5604.jpg 982w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5604-600x398.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5604-768x510.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 982px) 100vw, 982px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I’m showing you the relationship with Israel. Here’s his father, Mustafa, meeting with the Mossad chief in 1966.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36581" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605-1024x526.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="329" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605-1024x526.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605-600x308.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605-768x395.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5605.jpg 1181w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here’s his father in Israel, meeting with Moshe Dayan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36582" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606-1024x549.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="343" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606-1024x549.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606-600x322.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606-768x412.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5606.jpg 1176w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is the Israeli flag flying along with the Kurdish flag in a protest, or a rally in Irbil.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36583" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607-1024x545.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="341" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607-1024x545.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607-600x319.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607-768x408.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5607.jpg 1181w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So 9/11 happened. We were very quickly given this narrative, I call it the “<em>Zionist Narrative</em>”, about what happened. And the media has imposed on the public a false story that radical Islamic terrorists were to blame for 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36584" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608-1024x572.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5608.jpg 1179w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, the only way to liberate ourselves and our nations from the madness that we’re currently in for 17 years is to expose and understand the true source of the terrorism. If you go away from this presentation or if you believe that Muslims did 9/11 with all nano-thermite and destroying the buildings and fooling the US military, then you will support the logic of war. If you understand we’ve been deceived about 9/11, the logic of war evaporates.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What happened after 9/11 is that the media and the government declared it to be an “<em>Act of War</em>”. Now that’s a very important legal term because that meant that there would not be a criminal investigation, but rather we would treat it as an act of war by 19 Arabs, who happened to be supposedly coming from Afghanistan. And based on that logic, we went to war in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[17:37]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But Larry Johnson, speaking about the terrorists, or the alleged terrorists in Florida – he is a former director of counter-terrorism in the State Department – he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We don’t have anything in history to compare with this. The only thing that comes close to it is a former Soviet intelligence operation.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36585" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609-1024x581.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="363" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609-1024x581.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609-600x340.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609-768x436.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5609.jpg 1151w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because these are the 19 led hijackers. But 15 of them lived in Florida, where many of them had been issued duplicate licenses, others had passports had been stolen, which meant that somebody was using their identity for them and leaving behind a trail in their name.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36586" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610-1024x565.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="353" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610-1024x565.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610-600x331.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610-768x424.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5610.jpg 1175w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we now know from the BBC News shortly after 9/11 that I think seven of them were well, and alive after 9/11. And they said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“My picture is being used. My name is being used, but I’m fine. I’m alive.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36587" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611-1024x591.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="369" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611-1024x591.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611-600x346.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611-768x443.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5611.jpg 1132w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that raises the question, if at least seven of the hijackers were still alive after 9/11, who were the people playing the roles of the real hijackers? Were there real hijackings? Was it all a show? Well, about the 19 hijackers. Robert Mueller, who was then head of the CIA, FBI, excuse me, said in September 2002, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There is no legal proof to prove the identities of the suicidal hijackers.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36588" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612-1024x476.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="298" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612-1024x476.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612-600x279.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612-768x357.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5612.jpg 1160w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, this is an old Mossad trick. If you read the book The Little Drummer Girl, you’ll see that the Mossad tells the actress who’s leaving a trail for a Palestinian. The Mossad man tells the woman, the actress:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Terror is theater. Theater is a con trick. Do, you know what that means? Con trick? You’ve been deceived.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s what we are as a nation. The whole deception is meant to deceive us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I went to Germany after 9/11, shortly after, because I knew it was dangerous to be pointing out the lies of the government story when the government was going to war.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I went to Germany for a couple years and worked out of Berlin. And I spoke to some of the former German intelligence agents, heads, chiefs, and they told me, this guy told me that it looked like:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“A Hollywood production.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36589" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613-1024x589.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="368" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613-1024x589.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613-600x345.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613-768x441.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5613.jpg 1131w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he talked about:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The deathly precision and the magnitude of planning would have required years of planning. And the absence of leaks.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Was further indication that the attacks were state organized actions.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what state are we talking about?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another German guy, Andreas von Bulow, told me without hesitation:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s Israel, Mossad!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when I wrote that in my newspaper, he was a little bit surprised because he said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“He told that to every journalist in Germany, but it had never been printed.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he thought it wouldn’t be printed in my paper as well, but it was printed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I’m going to point out some of the key connections, Israeli connections to 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36590" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614-1024x560.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="350" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614-1024x560.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614-600x328.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614-768x420.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5614.jpg 1138w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>One of the first ones is that when Israel was becoming a state in 1948, before it became a state, the joint chiefs of Staff did 13 papers about what this would mean for the American military. And they wrote in the 13th paper that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Zionist strategy will seek to involve the US in a continuously widening and deepening series of operations intended to secure maximum jewish objectives.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36591" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615-1024x584.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="365" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615-1024x584.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615-600x342.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615-768x438.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5615.jpg 1141w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the maximum jewish objectives were:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The expansion of Eretz Israel.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That means the land of Israel:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Into Jordan, Lebanon and Syria and the establishment of jewish military and economic hegemony over the entire Middle East.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, this is what’s going on today and this is what the United States is facilitating.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the short list of Israeli terrorism attacks prior to 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1944, they killed the British minister, Lord Moyne, in Cairo. This was done by Lehi, or the Stern gang. PIn 46, they sent letter bombs to British officials, including the foreign minister, Ernest Bevin.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 46, they bombed the King David Hotel, killing 93 people. That was British mandate headquarters. It was under the British at that time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5616.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36592" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5616.jpg" alt="" width="742" height="476" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5616.jpg 742w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5616-600x385.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 742px) 100vw, 742px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1947, Irgun placed a bomb at the colonial office in London, which failed to detonate.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 47, Lehi sent letter bombs to the Truman White House.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1948, Irgun and Haganah bombed the Semiramis Hotel, killing 26 people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in 1948, Irgun and Lehi massacred the entire village of Deir Yasin.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s all before Israel even became a state. This is the bombing of the King David Hotel. That’s Menachem Begin.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36593" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5617.jpg 1071w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This was the worst terrorist attack in Israeli-Palestinian history to this point.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then Irgun bombed the British embassy in Rome in October 46.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36594" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618-1024x572.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5618.jpg 1046w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they were global in their reach. They would go to London, they would go to Britain. I mean, they would go to Italy. They would even send bombs to America. They sent bombs to the Truman White House.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is one of the bombers. This is Yitzhak Shamir. He was the head of Lehi. He was the head of the Stern gang when they killed this man, the UN mediator Count Folke Bernadotte, in 1948.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36595" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619-1024x580.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="363" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619-1024x580.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619-600x340.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619-768x435.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5619.jpg 1038w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, when Menachem Begin came to the United States in 1948, in December, Albert Einstein penned a letter with, 26 jewish intellectuals about what Americans should know about the Israeli terrorists, the jewish terrorists. He was talking about Menachem Begin’s party at the time. And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The public avowals of Begin’s party are no guide whatsoever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism. Whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character. From its past actions, we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5620-1.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36603" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5620-1.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="576" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5620-1.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5620-1-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5620-1-768x432.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bingo.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[23:22]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, if Americans had paid attention to what Einstein told them in 48, we would not have had 9/11, because the same people are involved, the very same party, ideology and people. What happened is that these terrorists, these are the terrorists of zionism. Begin, Shamir, Sharon.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36597" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621-1024x575.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="359" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621-1024x575.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621-768x431.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5621.jpg 1044w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They came to power in 1977. I happened to live in Israel at the time. And this was a very sad day for Labor people because they said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“This is the day that the terrorists have taken power.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They knew what they were talking about.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then the terrorists went to work right away. Begin invaded Lebanon in 78, and there was a Palestinian attack in Nahariya.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the response was, this man said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Kill them all!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they set up a terrorist squad that operated in Lebanon for four years. And this is Chief of Staff Rafael Eitan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36598" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5622.jpg 1040w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he set up an organization called the Front for the Liberation of Lebanon from Foreigners, in which he used car bombs and truck bombs to destroy Palestinian and Syrian targets and to foment conflict between the various ethnic groups of Lebanon. It was very successful. He did it for four years!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5623.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36599" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5623.jpg" alt="" width="989" height="553" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5623.jpg 989w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5623-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5623-768x429.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 989px) 100vw, 989px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This was revealed in a recent book that came out this year, Rise and Kill First, by an Israeli author named Ronan Bergman, New York Times bestseller. But when they interviewed Ronan Bergman, the New York Times, or when they write about the book, they leave out that little bit of history, that Israel was using a terrorist squad. They would hire, they would recruit people from the Sunni community, the Shiite community, Druze community, to drive the trucks. And then they would blow them up in places that they needed to blow them up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36600" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624-1024x546.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="341" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624-1024x546.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624-600x320.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624-768x410.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5624.jpg 1046w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because this is not discussed in American media, because this shows that Israel is a state that has openly practiced terrorism! There’s no question about it. Remember the years 1979 to 1983? And they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The aim was to cause chaos amongst the Palestinians and Syrians in Lebanon without leaving an Israeli fingerprint, to give them the feeling that they were constantly under attack and instill them with a sense of insecurity.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is exactly the same strategy that was applied to Iraq in the 1990s, since the war. Remember car bombs going off every day between the communities, driving the people against each other?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>And this is exactly what they did to us after 9/11, the bombing in Bali, the bombing in Madrid, the bombing in London, 9/11, so that they went global then, and they wanted to put fear into the entire Western world that were all insecure! And that’s exactly what the terrorism is all about. They want us to feel insecure so that we will support their war agenda.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then in 1983, a nondescript group that had never been heard of before bombed US Marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 marines.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36605" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629-1024x571.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="357" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629-1024x571.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629-768x428.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5629.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Caspar Weinberger, defense secretary at the time, said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“There is no knowledge, we have no knowledge about who did the bombing.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is exactly the same time that Israel was doing exactly this. And we now know from Viktor Ostrowski, who wrote Mossadnik, who wrote about Mossad’s actions in a book By Way of Deception. He said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Mossad knew the specific time and location of the bombing, but only gave the US skimpy general information, which was worthless.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they knew about the bomb. They knew what it was going to be, where it was going to be, what the truck looked like, but they didn’t tell us. That’s like, either “<em>let it happen on purpose</em>” or “<em>made it happen on purpose</em>”. And it’s the worst, it’s the largest <span style="color: #008000;">[single]</span> loss of life among the US Marines since Iwo Jima.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5630.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36606" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5630.jpg" alt="" width="1025" height="575" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5630.jpg 1025w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5630-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5630-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1025px) 100vw, 1025px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here are a couple of Israeli terrorists from the 1950s. Shimon Peres, Pinhas Lavon and Moshe Dayan. These two characters play a big role in Israeli history, especially in the use of false flag terrorism. This photograph was taken a few months after they were busted for the Lavon Affair in Egypt when they put bombs, nitroglycerin bombs, in American libraries and British libraries and cinema theaters and cultural institutions in Cairo, in an attempt to drive the British and the Americans away from Nasser, away from Egypt. But they were caught. And they’re still smiling!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36607" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631-1024x566.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="354" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631-1024x566.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631-600x331.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631-768x424.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5631.jpg 1030w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>After it was discovered by the prime minister at the time, Moshe Sherrett. He said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Shimon Peres shares the same ideology as Pinhas Lavon. He wants to frighten the West into supporting Israel’s aims.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is exactly where we are today. The whole name of the game of the terrorism is to scare us into supporting Israel’s aims, to drive us as a nation, as a people, as a military, right behind the Israel camp, so that we become the fighters of their wars for them, because we are affected by the fear.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1967, some people would say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Israel would never do that. They’re our ally.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I would point them to read about the USS Liberty attack in 1967 during the Six Day War in which Israeli planes and boats bombed the USS Liberty, a spy ship, which was in international waters off the coast of Egypt, killing 34 Americans and wounding 171.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36608" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632-1024x561.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="351" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632-1024x561.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632-600x329.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632-768x421.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5632.jpg 1031w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Two thirds of the crew was destroyed, was murdered or injured. It’s the most decorated ship in naval history. And it’s the one subject of this war, the Six Day War that Americans know virtually nothing about because it’s suppressed. Because if Americans understood. The pilots were asked by the ground control:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Identify the ship!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The pilots called back:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s American. It’s American!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The order came from the ground:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Sink the ship! No survivors.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, if Americans understood that history, which has been revealed since 2006, they would realize that Israel is a state that will attack the United States when it suits their purposes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36609" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633-600x338.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5633.jpg 1027w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is an attack in Libya in 1986 in which the United States was tricked. Israel tricked the United States into attacking Libya. They rented an apartment in Tripoli. Then they broadcast radio transmissions to the apartment in Tripoli, which then went up into the satellite. The American signals intelligence picked up the information thinking that it was coming from Libya and then went and attacked Libya. This was when they killed Qaddafi’s daughter and all that, back in 1986.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5634.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36610" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5634.jpg" alt="" width="1018" height="543" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5634.jpg 1018w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5634-600x320.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5634-768x410.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1018px) 100vw, 1018px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[29:31]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the War on Terror. I’m going to talk a little bit about how the War on Terror evolved. It’s an Israeli stratagem. How it developed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36611" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635-1024x536.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="335" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635-600x314.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635-768x402.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5635.jpg 1033w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1978 is when this all started to come into fruition. In 1978, Israeli intelligence agent Arnon Milchan made his first film called the Medusa Touch, in which a Boeing 747 crashes into the Pan Am building.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5637.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36612" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5637.jpg" alt="" width="1017" height="566" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5637.jpg 1017w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5637-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5637-768x427.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1017px) 100vw, 1017px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5639.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36613" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5639.jpg" alt="" width="1025" height="576" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5639.jpg 1025w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5639-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5639-768x432.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1025px) 100vw, 1025px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here they are setting up for the film. This is the cover of the book. And here we have the same year he made the film. Here we have Arnon Milchan meeting with Israeli Defense Minister Ezer Weizman.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you can see he’s at the very highest level of the Israeli military. They’re making a movie predicting something that’s going to happen in the future.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5640.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36614" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5640.jpg" alt="" width="1016" height="549" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5640.jpg 1016w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5640-600x324.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5640-768x415.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1016px) 100vw, 1016px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here he is. He’s a big Hollywood producer. Made JFK, Pretty Woman, Brazil, other films. He’s said to be worth $5 billion.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the point is, if you read the book about Arnon Milchan called Confidential, you’ll see that he is the external banker who controls the slush funds that Mossad uses for external operations. That’s where the money comes from.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he made this film in the year 2000. Well, his partner, his business partner, a man named Rupert Murdoch, who owns Fox News, Rupert Murdoch’s company, made this film in 2,000 in which a Boeing passenger aircraft is flown into the World Trade Center.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36615" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641-1024x570.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641-1024x570.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5641.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this aired on TV. This plane in the movie was a half an hour film, worth watching. It’s called The Lone Gunman, pilot episode. And in this movie, the plane is remotely hijacked with passengers on it. And the blame is put on the American Military Industrial Complex, looking for a new enemy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5642.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36616" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5642.jpg" alt="" width="908" height="573" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5642.jpg 908w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5642-600x379.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5642-768x485.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 908px) 100vw, 908px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In 1979, the head, this is one year later. The head of Israeli intelligence, this man, Isser Harel, predicted that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The Arabs would attack the tallest building in New York City.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He made that prediction to this man, Michael Evans, a Zionist, a jewish Christian Evangelist from Texas. And Harel predicted that the Arab terrorists would attack the tallest building in New York City. That was 22 years before 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5643.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36617" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5643.jpg" alt="" width="954" height="569" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5643.jpg 954w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5643-600x358.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5643-768x458.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 954px) 100vw, 954px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you see the relationship here between Mr Evans and Menachem Begin. The prediction went like this. You know, they were meeting, and Mr Evans said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Do you think that terrorism will come to America? And if so, where and why?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5644.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36618" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5644.jpg" alt="" width="1025" height="569" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5644.jpg 1025w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5644-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5644-768x426.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1025px) 100vw, 1025px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is 1979. Harel said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I fear it will come to you in America. America has the power, but not the will to fight terrorism.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Et cetera, et cetera.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>As to the where, Harel said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“New York City is a symbol of freedom and capitalism. It’s likely they will attack. They will strike the empire State Building, your tallest building, and symbol of your power.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He pretended to be ignorant about the tallest building.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36619" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5645.jpg 1031w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in 1979, this man, Bibi Netanyahu, came back from his., &#8230; He had been working in Boston for a Rothschild company called Boston Consulting Group, in Boston. He went back, this is his father. And they started something called the Netanyahu Institute, in which they began promoting the idea of:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Terrorism being the scourge that the West has to fight.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they had a conference in 1979 called The Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism. They blamed all the terrorism in the world on Russia, on the Soviet Union. And George Bush spoke on the third day at the final conference and spoke in support of these pre-emptive strikes against nations that are supporting terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36620" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646-1024x570.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646-1024x570.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5646.jpg 1033w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Begin, I mean, Mr Netanyahu went on to make a career promoting the War on Terrorism. Terrorism, How The West Can Win, Fighting Terrorism, and calling for the United States to come to the Middle East to wage war against those terrorist entities that were plaguing Israel. Because Netanyahu logic goes like this. He says that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Israel is attacked because the Arabs are opposed to our Western identity, our Western values, our Western way of life. We’re a Western nation.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He says, and:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Therefore the West is the target. Therefore it’s incumbent on the West to come and fight the terrorists for us, because we’re all the target.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5647.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36621" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5647.jpg" alt="" width="917" height="575" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5647.jpg 917w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5647-600x376.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5647-768x482.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 917px) 100vw, 917px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So what they did in 1983, in order to have a War on Terror, you need to have a foe. So they created the foe. They created the foe in Pakistan using a guy named Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who was a very anti-Western militia group he had called Hezb-I-Islami. And the CIA and the Saudis bankrolled the operation. And Israelis trained and armed these people in Pakistan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36622" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648-1024x569.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648-1024x569.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5648.jpg 1027w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It was done in 1983, in 85. It began when this man, Ehud Barak, was the head of Israeli Military Intelligence. And they sent their men and weapons they had taken off the battlefield of Lebanon, took them to Pakistan and trained these characters, people like Osama Bin Laden, in the arts of terrorism. How to make a bicycle bomb and a car bomb and how to fight urban battles against the Russians. These jihadis were meant to fight against the Russians, the Red Army in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36623" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5649.jpg 1028w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in 1983 it was done by Charlie Wilson, this Congressman from Texas. He’s the one who led the whole thing. And he arranged with the Israelis to provide the weapons and the trainers in Pakistan. And this is him shaking hands with Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the question is, why would the United States and Britain, why would they be funding and training the most anti-Western of the Mujahideen? This man was rabidly anti-Western. Why would you do that? Because they were creating the boogeyman. They were creating the enemy for the next War on Terror, which was Al-Qaeda. And it was done.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5650.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36624" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5650.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="570" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5650.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5650-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5650-768x428.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the man. This is Zvi Rafiah, the head of Israeli Intelligence in Washington, DC. And he was this man’s handler, Charlie Wilson’s handler. And this man, Zvi Rafiah, used Charlie Wilson’s office as if it were his own office.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5651.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36625" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5651.jpg" alt="" width="1014" height="570" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5651.jpg 1014w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5651-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5651-768x432.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1014px) 100vw, 1014px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is the Hebrew speaking double agent named Ali Mohamed, who was Osama Bin Laden’s first trainer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[35:33]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, he’s supposedly Egyptian, but he speaks fluent Hebrew. Where did he learn the Hebrew? He’s a double agent. So he was working with the Israelis, training Osama Bin Laden. And this guy, he set up the cell that bombed the US embassies in Africa. He trained the men who were blamed for bombing the World Trade Center in 1993. And he trained the men who killed Rabbi Kahane in New York City.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then he was finally arrested and put in jail for bombing the embassies in Africa. He was put in a federal penitentiary in this country, from which he disappeared without a trace.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5652.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36626" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5652.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5652.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5652-600x317.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5652-768x406.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And this is the Gulbuddin’s gang. This is when they became Al-Qaeda. In 1994, the Arabs became Al-Qaeda and the Pashtun speakers became Taliban. Then Israeli Mossad got the contract for the World Trade Center in 1987. Security contract, anti-terrorism security contract.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5653.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36627" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5653.jpg" alt="" width="906" height="544" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5653.jpg 906w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5653-600x360.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5653-768x461.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 906px) 100vw, 906px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And it went to this man, Avraham Shalom Bendor. He was the head of Shin Bet. He was involved in a murder in Palestine, in Israel of a couple Palestinians. And he came to America and was the president of this company Atwell Security who got the contract for the World Trade Center.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5654.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36628" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5654.jpg" alt="" width="1022" height="573" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5654.jpg 1022w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5654-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5654-768x431.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1022px) 100vw, 1022px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when the Port Authority discovered, this is Zvi Malkin and Shalom Bendor, when the Port Authority discovered that this man was using a fake name and he’d been convicted of murder in Israel, they tore up the contract. Had they not torn up the contract in 1987, 9/11 probably would have happened in the 1980s or early 1990s. But they were rejected by the Port Authority.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5655.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36629" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5655.jpg" alt="" width="1012" height="571" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5655.jpg 1012w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5655-600x339.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5655-768x433.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1012px) 100vw, 1012px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They didn’t go home to Israel. They didn’t give up the plan. They went to work for a couple American jews who did have inside in the Pentagon, Maurice Greenberg and Jules Kroll. And Jules Kroll had a company called Kroll Associates who got the security contract for the World Trade Center in 1993, after the first bombing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And at that point, Shalom Bendor was working for him.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5656.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36630" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5656.jpg" alt="" width="1013" height="567" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5656.jpg 1013w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5656-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5656-768x430.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1013px) 100vw, 1013px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in 1992, this son of a terrorist. This is Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago right now. His father was a member of that Stern Gang, the Lehi Gang. This man became the senior advisor to Bill Clinton. This is the guy that set up the whole Lewinsky thing. But he was also instrumental. He was the Mossad’s man in the White House, so that he made sure that the right people got appointed to the bench. The right appointments were made of under Clinton to make the 9/11 project move forward. And his father was a member of Lehi. He served in the Israeli army, yet he was the senior advisor to the White House.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5657.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36631" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5657.jpg" alt="" width="992" height="569" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5657.jpg 992w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5657-600x344.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5657-768x441.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 992px) 100vw, 992px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. And in this case, Michael Chertoff was the US Attorney for the District of New Jersey. He played a key role in the prosecution in which Muslims were blamed for the bombing. The six people were killed. Chertoff oversaw the prosecution. And Mukasey, Judge Mukasey, oversaw the actual trial.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36632" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658-1024x569.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658-1024x569.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5658.jpg 1029w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in the trial, the FBI, who was involved in actually making the truck bomb, they paid this man $1 million.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36633" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659-1024x572.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5659.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is another Egyptian colonel. This man was the guy who ran the sting operation in which these guys were stung. And he used wires and recorded so that they became indictable. And he testified. He was paid $1 million. This guy, Emad Salem, was paid $1 million to testify against these other fellows that he had rounded up. And then he went into the witness protection program, you know, new name, new face.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5660.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36634" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5660.jpg" alt="" width="1013" height="577" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5660.jpg 1013w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5660-600x342.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5660-768x437.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1013px) 100vw, 1013px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then this ideation of the War on Terror, or of the 9/11 came out in this article in Foreign Affairs, in which Philip Zelikow, John Deutch and Ashton Carter wrote about “<em>Catastrophic Terrorism</em>”, how this would be something that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Could happen next month!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in this article, they had a study group. They imagined the “<em>transforming event</em>”. They imagined the event, like 9/11, that would change America, fundamentally change our policies, our foreign policy, our domestic policy, change the nation. This was printed in Christmas 1998.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36635" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661-1024x574.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="359" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661-1024x574.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661-768x430.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5661.jpg 1026w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Two of the authors, Ashton Carter and John Deutch, worked for a company called Global Technology Partners, which is an exclusive affiliate of Rothschild North America. I point out these Rothschild connections because there are throughout the entire saga. You find that one step removed from the crime, you find a Rothschild, a Rothschild connection. And the Rothschilds are, of course, the bankers that control our Federal Reserve system and other countries central banks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5662.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36636" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5662.jpg" alt="" width="928" height="538" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5662.jpg 928w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5662-600x348.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5662-768x445.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 928px) 100vw, 928px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, 9/11, the New Pearl Harbor. The Zionist neocons had called for a New Pearl Harbor in order to effect the change they needed to see.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36637" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5665.jpg 1033w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the Project for a New American Century run by the Kagan family. These are some of the signatories to the document. And they had imagined that this revolutionary change that they saw turning America into the global police force:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Would require a catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a New Pearl Harbor.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5666.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36638" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5666.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="571" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5666.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5666-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5666-768x428.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in 2001, an Israeli Mossad company, Rothschild company, called ICTS, controlled security at the US airports. And these are the three principles. Here is Yitzhak Shamir’s son, Yair Shamir. This is Cukierman, and this is Boaz Harel. They ran the company that either let these guys on the airplane, or didn’t. But their company was excused from the process. And so we’ll never know unless we have some change in the attitude about 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[41:04]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36639" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667-1024x563.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="352" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667-1024x563.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667-600x330.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667-768x422.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5667.jpg 1028w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then in July 2001, Zionists, that’s strong supporters of Israel, got the lease for the World Trade Center. It became their property. And that was done through a man named Ron Lauder, the son of Este Lauder.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36640" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669-1024x572.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5669.jpg 1026w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in Israel, he works together with Major General Daniel Rothschild at Mossad University. He has a school there, and he runs the Institute for Policy and Strategy. This man was put in charge of privatizing New York property for Governor Pataky. He oversaw the privatization efforts of New York State in which they decided to privatize the World Trade Center, because the World Trade Center was public property prior to 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36641" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670-1024x561.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="351" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670-1024x561.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670-600x329.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670-768x421.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5670.jpg 1033w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then it went from the port authority. This man, Lew Eisenberg, he transferred after negotiations, the property to this man, Larry Silverstein. But these men are connected through something called the UJA Federation of New York, which is a Zionist fundraising operation, where he’s the national chairman and he is on the board of the Planning Board.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5671.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36642" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5671.jpg" alt="" width="962" height="538" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5671.jpg 962w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5671-600x336.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5671-768x430.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 962px) 100vw, 962px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And again, Larry Silverstein, the man who got the World Trade Center lease for 99 years is this man here. He had weekly phone calls every Sunday afternoon with Benjamin Netanyahu.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36643" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672-1024x570.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672-1024x570.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672-768x428.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5672.jpg 1027w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then on July 24, 2001, he got the keys to the front door of the World Trade Center.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36644" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673-1024x537.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="336" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673-1024x537.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673-600x315.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673-768x403.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5673.jpg 1027w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is what was left five weeks later.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36645" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674-1024x528.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="330" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674-1024x528.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674-600x310.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674-768x396.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5674.jpg 1027w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On 9/11 Ehud Olmerttt, Israel’s Deputy Prime Minister, was on a secret visit to New York City.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36646" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675-1024x544.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="340" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675-1024x544.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675-600x319.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675-768x408.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5675.jpg 1033w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This was taken about two weeks later, but he was there on September 10 and September 11 in New York City.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5676.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36647" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5676.jpg" alt="" width="1017" height="549" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5676.jpg 1017w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5676-600x324.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5676-768x415.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1017px) 100vw, 1017px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here he is with Netanyahu. By the way, he wound up spending a couple years in jail recently for bribery.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5677.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36648" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5677.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="560" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5677.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5677-600x328.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5677-768x420.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here he is after he came back from his ten days away in Israel, he came back to the United States.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And since New York City and Jerusalem are sister cities, and he was the Mayor of Jerusalem and the Deputy Prime Minister of Israel, he acted like the Big Brother to Rudy Giuliani.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36649" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679-1024x565.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="353" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679-1024x565.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679-600x331.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679-768x423.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5679.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But on September 11, when all civilian flights were grounded in this country, one full El Al Boeing 747 took off from JFK bound for Tel Aviv. The flight departed at 4:11 pm with US military officials on the scene authorizing and clearing the flight for takeoff. Who was on that plane? Well, obviously, Ehud Olmertt was one of the people on the plane.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is about the Put Options. You may have heard about the Put Options in which people profited by knowing that the stocks of the airlines and insurance companies would tank on 9/11. And 95% of these options were put by this man’s former company.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36650" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680-1024x567.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="354" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680-1024x567.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680-600x332.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5680.jpg 1036w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now this man is “<em>Buzzy</em>” Krongard. And on 9/11, he was executive director of the CIA. But before he became executive director of the CIA, he was the director of Alex Brown, the company that placed the put options.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36651" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681-1024x650.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="406" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681-1024x650.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681-600x381.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681-768x487.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5681.jpg 1280w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And here’s the relationship between Alvin Krongard, Alvin Krongard and his wife. And his wife works directly with Rothschild Asset Management.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there were thousands of Israelis who were warned about 9/11, and there were 4,000 who were expected to have been at <span style="color: #008000;">[in the area of]</span> the World Trade Center that day, or the Pentagon.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5682.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36652" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5682.jpg" alt="" width="684" height="606" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5682.jpg 684w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5682-600x532.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 684px) 100vw, 684px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that comes from the Israeli Foreign Ministry. That’s not Arab propaganda. It’s from the Israeli Foreign Ministry.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And apparently they got the message through a system called Odigo, which warned people who had that Israeli system of messaging not to go to the World Trade Center that day. The warning message went out about two or 3 hours before it happened. It warned people:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Not to be at the World Trade Center at 8:45 because all hell would break loose.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5683.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36653" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5683.jpg" alt="" width="980" height="596" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5683.jpg 980w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5683-600x365.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5683-768x467.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 980px) 100vw, 980px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So apparently those 4,000 Israelis who avoided harm got the message, they got the memo.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36654" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684-1024x571.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="357" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684-1024x571.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684-600x334.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684-768x428.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5684.jpg 1084w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there were these “<em>Five Dancing Israeli</em>” who were seen celebrating and high fiving the attack at the World Trade Center before <span style="color: #008000;">[after]</span> the first plane struck. They were on the New Jersey side of the river, and they were photographing and high fiving, and they were observed, and they were arrested on the afternoon of 9/11. It was written about in the New Jersey newspapers, but it was not reported in any other paper outside of New Jersey.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5685.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36655" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5685.jpg" alt="" width="1006" height="575" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5685.jpg 1006w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5685-600x343.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5685-768x439.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1006px) 100vw, 1006px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The two men that did not appear, they’re on a TV show. These three guys are on TV show. They said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re not Mossad!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, because the two Mossad guys are sitting in the audience. The Kurtzberg brothers were sitting in the audience because they could not go up on the stage and say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’re not Mossad.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They are Mossad. And US law enforcement knew it from the minute they arrested these guys that they were Mossad.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And one of the guys, this is one of the minions, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Our purpose was to document the event.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here’s the head of the company behind these foster grants here, Dominik Suter. He fled the country on the 12th or the 13th, and when the FBI went to get him again, he was gone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36656" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686-1024x575.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="359" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686-1024x575.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686-768x431.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5686.jpg 1080w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>And this is one of the trucks of their company. They had this truck that was reported by New York police, Urban Moving Systems. It wasn’t a moving company at all! It was a front company. It was set up to facilitate the 9/11 attacks. And they had this truck with the picture of the World Trade Center being struck by a plane.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now on 9/11, when it happened, in the studio, the London studio, the BBC, world television, the largest English speaking broadcasting in the world, who was there except Ehud Barak! Ready to give the interpretation. Remember, the General, Wesley Clark said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We did not have American understanding of it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, what he’s implying is that we had:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“A foreign country’s understanding of it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We had Israeli understanding. The Israelis interpreted 9/11 for us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5687.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36657" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5687.jpg" alt="" width="1016" height="568" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5687.jpg 1016w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5687-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5687-768x429.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1016px) 100vw, 1016px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This man, the head of former Defense Minister, Chief of Staff, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“The world will never be the same from today on! We know who’s behind this, Osama Bin Laden, and we know where he is!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s time to launch an operational, concrete war against terror, full stop!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[46:46]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s what we’ve been doing for the last 17 years, following the Israeli diktat! Living our lives according to the Israeli interpretation of 9/11. That’s what they’ve imposed on us. They’ve imposed a Zionist narrative to explain what happened on 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5688.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36658" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5688.jpg" alt="" width="963" height="604" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5688.jpg 963w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5688-600x376.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5688-768x482.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 963px) 100vw, 963px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here’s Bibi Netanyahu. And on 9/11, he praised the attacks because they had kickstarted his War on Terror that he’d been pushing uphill for the last, 20 years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36659" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689-1024x569.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689-1024x569.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5689.jpg 1087w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He told the New York Times. He was asked:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“How will this affect American Israeli relations?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s very good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>When 30,000 people are expected to be in the pile, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“It’s very good. It will generate immediate sympathy.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the relationship between Netanyahu and Barak is that Barak was his commander in the Sayeret Matkal, a covert commando force of Israeli military intelligence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36665" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5705.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And Bibi Netanyahu spoke the next day, September 12, in Jerusalem.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36666" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706-1024x541.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="338" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706-1024x541.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706-600x317.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706-768x406.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5706.jpg 1034w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We must build a coalition against terror today. It’s time to take on the militant Islamic regimes with a great deal of strength. We should crush the terrorist infrastructure that threatens the entire free world.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yet if you look at the coalition that’s put together in Syria or in Iraq, you will never find the Israeli flag, because the Israelis are the ones who are running the operation, but keep their fingers out of it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But you see now in Syria, you see the Israelis are now bombing every day. They’re attacking Syria on a daily basis. And they were the ones who actually got the Russian plane shot down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Their four fighters came over and were striking Syria, putting the slow moving Russian reconnaissance plane in the middle, and it got shot.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he also said, Netanyahu said in 2001, he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s what they’re doing to us. They’re pulling us around like an ox with a ring in its nose. And he said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We are benefiting.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is him speaking to an Israeli audience.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36667" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707-1024x569.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="356" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707-1024x569.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707-768x427.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5707.jpg 1035w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the twin towers, the Pentagon and the American struggle in Iraq.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>He said that in 2008.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5708.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36668" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5708.jpg" alt="" width="996" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5708.jpg 996w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5708-600x326.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5708-768x417.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 996px) 100vw, 996px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there was an Israeli son of the Mossad who controlled the 9/11 investigation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36669" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709-1024x539.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="337" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709-1024x539.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709-600x316.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709-768x404.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5709.jpg 1038w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the man, Michael Chertoff. He was put in charge of the investigation, which became a non-investigation in which the evidence was destroyed. And for day to day decisions, Chertoff had the last word.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5710.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36670" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5710.jpg" alt="" width="991" height="543" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5710.jpg 991w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5710-600x329.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5710-768x421.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 991px) 100vw, 991px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then he became Homeland Security Czar in 2005. In this position, he maintained his control of the evidence of 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5711.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36671" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5711.jpg" alt="" width="1006" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5711.jpg 1006w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5711-600x323.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5711-768x413.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1006px) 100vw, 1006px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Controlling the evidence, destroying the evidence, was a key aspect of his work. And the evidence was destroyed from the day one. This is some of the steel that was piled up. That was a big steel pile of steel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36672" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712-1024x533.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="333" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712-1024x533.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712-600x312.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712-768x400.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5712.jpg 1038w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they began right away carting the steel off to a couple Zionist junkyards where it was destroyed 24/7. Cut into small pieces, mixed with other scrap and sent to Asia for destruction.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because the steel would provide evidence of what really caused the towers to fall.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5713.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36673" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5713.jpg" alt="" width="831" height="542" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5713.jpg 831w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5713-600x391.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5713-768x501.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 831px) 100vw, 831px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then the Zionists presided over the 9/11 lawsuits and litigation. This is the judge, Alvin K. Hellerstein. There was a fundamental conflict of interest, though.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36674" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715-1024x576.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715-600x337.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715-768x432.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5715.jpg 1030w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>His son worked for a law firm in Israel that represented ICTS, the company that was overseeing security at the airports on 9/11 in Boston, in Newark, in Dulles. Here’s the relationship.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36675" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716-1024x568.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="355" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716-1024x568.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716-600x333.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716-768x426.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5716.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>His son was working for a company that was the parent company of ICTS. And that same group of people, ICTS, was in the tort litigation that he oversaw for the families of 9/11. That’s a primary conflict of interest. And the Zionists also oversaw the settlements of the money.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36676" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717-1024x573.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717-1024x573.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5717.jpg 1032w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This man dished out the money for the first, 2,900 families. His name is Kenneth Feinberg, very high level Zionist. This is Sheila Birnbaum. She oversaw the war of attrition against the 96 families. There are 96 families who held out for a day in court. They never got it. One by one, they were settled out of court.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the Zionist control the 9/11 myth and the legacy. This is the Ground Zero. This is the World Trade Center memorial.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5718.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36677" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5718.jpg" alt="" width="988" height="542" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5718.jpg 988w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5718-600x329.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5718-768x421.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 988px) 100vw, 988px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they control the interpretation of the event was given to us by this 9/11 Commission Report by this man, Philip Zelikow, who’s an expert at creating public myths.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36678" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719-1024x558.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="349" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719-1024x558.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719-600x327.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719-768x419.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5719.jpg 1036w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And he came to the table as Executive Director of the Commission with a complete outline already finished, before the staff even began working.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So he had prepared the myth in advance. Then they would pick information that they would put into the myth to make it work.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5720.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36679" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5720.jpg" alt="" width="990" height="574" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5720.jpg 990w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5720-600x348.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5720-768x445.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 990px) 100vw, 990px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the people who worked on the 9/11 Commission, like the senior counsel John Farmer, said that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“What government and military officials told Congress, the Commission, the media and the public about who knew what when, was almost entirely and inexplicably untrue.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Here are the co-chairmen of the Commission Report.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5721.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36680" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5721.jpg" alt="" width="1017" height="537" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5721.jpg 1017w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5721-600x317.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5721-768x406.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1017px) 100vw, 1017px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“To this day, we don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us. It was just so far from the truth!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So these are the people who actually wrote the report or worked on the report telling you that it’s a pack of lies!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Then the Israelis constructed the memorial, the legacy, where the kids go in the school buses and get the walk around and go to the museum.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5722.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36681" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5722.jpg" alt="" width="1014" height="541" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5722.jpg 1014w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5722-600x320.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5722-768x410.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1014px) 100vw, 1014px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The World Trade Center memorial was designed by an Israeli, this man here, Michael Arad, who’s the son of Moshe Arad, the former Israeli ambassador of the United States.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5723.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36682" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5723-1024x540.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="338" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5723-1024x540.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5723-600x317.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5723-768x405.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5723.jpg 1029w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So from A to Z, from ideation to legacy, it’s all been an Israeli project. For 17 years the media has given us this story, a false narrative about 9/11 and the War on Terror, all the while suppressing real evidence that disproves the official myth.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5724.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-36683" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5724.jpg" alt="" width="1021" height="579" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5724.jpg 1021w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5724-600x340.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5724-768x436.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like the molten metal that poured off the building. Like the molten metal that was found in the basement of the World Trade Center. Like the tiny droplets of molten iron that were found in the dust. Because the attitude of the media has been this is from three years later. New York Times.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5725.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-36684" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5725-1024x572.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="358" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5725-1024x572.jpg 1024w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5725-600x335.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5725-768x429.jpg 768w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Tricked-into-War-5725.jpg 1029w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“</span>In the three years since 9/11, we’ve begun to understand that it’s possible to know what happened without knowing what happened.<span style="color: black;">”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That’s their position! We don’t need to know!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>GorgonIII<br />
30 weeks ago<br />
I have linked to a lot of Bolly&#8217;s work on 9/11 in this substack essay: Israel and elements of the US government did 9/11 https://binkylarue.substack.com/p/israel-and-elements-of-the-us-government<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, says:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>The recent terror attack in Moscow was quickly claimed by ISIS and the mainstream media have been quick to claim it was the work of jihadists. However, the evidence doesn’t point in that direction, could this be state sponsored terrorism, orchestrated by another nation? Find out who stands to gain the most from the slaughter of innocent Russians.</em>”</span></p>
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The recent terror attack in Moscow was quickly claimed by ISIS and the mainstream media have been quick to claim it was the work of jihadists. However, the evidence doesn’t point in that direction, could this be state sponsored terrorism, orchestrated by another nation? Find out who stands to gain the most from the slaughter of innocent Russians.<br />
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<p>The recent terror attack in Moscow was one of the most sickening attacks of its kind in recent years, and with the death toll now standing at one hundred and thirty-nine it was also one of the deadliest. What’s more, the footage of the attack is readily available, and the brutality that can be witnessed during this footage is harrowing to say the least.</p>
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<p>However, who was responsible for this sickening act?</p>
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<p>Well, it appears on the surface that it was the work of Islamic fundamentalists – in fact, ISIS have claimed the attack as their doing, declaring it an act of Jihad. And, all four of the men arrested for the terror attack come from Tajikistan – a country in Central Asia – and all four of them are Muslims. Putting all those pieces in place, they all seem to fit together quite nicely and give the appearance of another text book case of Islamic terrorism, an act of Jihad carried out by extremists affiliated to ISIS.</p>
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<p>So, that’s it then, case closed?</p>
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<p>Well, maybe not.</p>
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<p>You see, there are a few things that don’t add up here.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4651.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35295" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4651.jpg" alt="" width="714" height="652" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4651.jpg 714w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4651-600x548.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 714px) 100vw, 714px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The first thing that doesn’t point to the Islamic extremism hypothesis being correct is that all four of the men involved in the terror attack survived and were caught fleeing – according to Russian sources they were making their way to the Ukraine. This simply doesn’t follow what we know about jihad and is not what we have observed when looking at attacks carried out by Islamic fundamentalists.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Jihad is the waging of holy war by Islamic militants. I am not going to go into a long explanation of jihad, instead I will focus in on the part of jihad that is important in this case.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4652.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35296" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4652.jpg" alt="" width="749" height="631" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4652.jpg 749w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4652-600x505.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 749px) 100vw, 749px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Muslim fundamentalists believe that those who die whilst carrying out an act of jihad go to heaven – and not just any heaven. Those who die whilst carrying out an act of jihad go to the BEST heaven, these are the chosen, the ones who go to paradise and get the seventy virgin brides!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is why jihadists usually wear suicide vests, and if they don’t, they keep attacking until they are killed during their attack. That’s because fundamentally, for these terrorists, dying is part of jihad. Their aim is to not only to carry out a terror attack, but to die during that attack in order to go to heaven and receive the greatest benefits that they believe their god will bestow upon them.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4653.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35297" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4653.jpg" alt="" width="721" height="588" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4653.jpg 721w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4653-600x489.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 721px) 100vw, 721px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And when you look at suicide bombings or the seemingly suicidal nature of jihadists – their actions all of a sudden make sense once you understand their thinking. They aren’t trying to survive and get away in order to live to fight another day, they are looking for their golden ticket to the afterlife.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[02:51]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But the four men who carried out the attack in Moscow, they weren’t wearing suicide vests, they didn’t wait for the authorities to arrive and then go out in a hail of bullets – they tried to escape. And when they were caught, separated and then tortured, they all gave the same story; they had been paid to carry out the attack.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They had apparently been offered five hundred thousand rubles to carry out the massacre, of which half was paid in advance. And for context, that works out at about five thousand Euros in total.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is very interesting, because again, it suggests that these men aren’t jihadists. They weren’t killing for a ticket to heaven; they were killing for money, which makes them mercenaries – not jihadists. And obviously, they wanted to get away from the crime scene in order to receive the rest of their payment.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now, on the issue of their torture, it’s interesting to see how the Western press and media have recoiled in horror at the sight of the torture of these men.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4655.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35299" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4655.jpg" alt="" width="603" height="605" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4655.jpg 603w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4655-600x602.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 603px) 100vw, 603px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The same Western press and media have spent the last almost 6 months applauding the genocide of women and children in Gaza and suggesting that anyone who calls for a ceasefire is an anti-semite. Yet the sight of four men who have actually carried out a terror attack being tortured is apparently too much to bear!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now for the record, I am not endorsing torture. However, in cases where there is an active terror threat and there may be other terrorists at large, or bombs planted that could pose an additional threat to innocent life, I have no problem what-so-ever with information being extracted from terrorists by any means necessary.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4656.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35300" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4656.jpg" alt="" width="704" height="600" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4656.jpg 704w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4656-600x511.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 704px) 100vw, 704px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it is funny to see the Western media pretending they care about human rights and using words like “<em>barbaric</em>” when we have seen them attempting to claim that bombing women and children fleeing a Warzone is just an acceptable level of collateral damage. Hell, I’ve even seen some people commenting that innocent Palestinians dying is a good thing as it “<em>sends a message</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s almost as if the media’s moral compass flips depending on who is carrying out the violence, with a certain nation being completely immune from any criticism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4657.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35301" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4657.jpg" alt="" width="685" height="649" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4657.jpg 685w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4657-600x568.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 685px) 100vw, 685px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the terror attack in Moscow. The behaviour of those who carried out the attack points to them absolutely NOT being jihadists. But what about ISIS claiming the attack? Well, ISIS now exists in a depleted state, and often when terror groups are in such a state, they claim every and any attack they can in order to raise their own profile. And this has happened before. ISIS have falsely claimed a number of terror attacks that they had nothing to do with, most notably the Las Vegas shooting in 2017.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, if it wasn’t ISIS, who was it?</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4658.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35302" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4658.jpg" alt="" width="787" height="596" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4658.jpg 787w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4658-600x454.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4658-768x582.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 787px) 100vw, 787px" /></a></p>
<p>Who was the group – or country – who paid these mercenaries to slaughter 139 people in Crocus City Hall?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, I don’t know. But I think we can rule some people out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[06:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Firstly, I don’t think this was a false flag carried out by Putin and the Russian security services.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4659.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35303" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4659.jpg" alt="" width="719" height="614" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4659.jpg 719w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4659-600x512.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 719px) 100vw, 719px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Putin has just won an election with 87 per cent of the vote. He doesn’t need a false flag attack in order to increase his popularity. What’s more, if it was Putin behind this, I think he would have let the terrorists escape to the Ukraine, ensured that the attack was claimed by a fringe group within the Ukraine and then he would have been able to demand that the terrorists were handed back to him by the Zelensky regime.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Had the Zelensky regime not complied, it would have left Putin and the Russians with a moral green card to wage war ever deeper into Ukrainian territory – and there’s very little America or the West could say, afterall, in the wake of the September eleventh [2001] attacks, the US used Afghanistan’s refusal to hand over Osama Bin Laden as justification for a complete invasion and occupation of the country.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4660.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35304" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4660.jpg" alt="" width="612" height="606" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4660.jpg 612w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4660-600x594.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 612px) 100vw, 612px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But none of that happened, the terrorists were apprehended swiftly and never made it to the Ukraine in order to allow for an international incident to play out. So, when applying the legal test of <em>cui bono</em> – or to whom the benefit – Russia and Putin do not seem to gain anything!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Secondly, I don’t think it was the Ukrainian regime, or a group associated with the Ukraine.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4661.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35305" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4661.jpg" alt="" width="625" height="632" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4661.jpg 625w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4661-600x607.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Had it been anything to do with the Ukraine, I believe a message would have been left or sent in order to make the Russian people aware of who was behind the atrocity. If this was a group of Ukrainians sending a message to Russians by means of spilling blood deep within Russian territory, I haven’t seen any evidence to back that up, either during the attack or after it. Other than the claim that the perpetrators were headed to the Ukraine, no credible evidence has surfaced showing any links between the attackers and the Ukraine.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4662.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-35306 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4662.jpg" alt="" width="637" height="569" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4662.jpg 637w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4662-600x536.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 637px) 100vw, 637px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Finally, I don’t think this had anything to do with the United States either. In fact, several weeks before the attack, American intelligence actually warned Russia about rumours of an impending attack on Russian soil. Whether this was the same attack, I don’t know. But it appears if anything that America was actually trying to avert such an attack – maybe out of the fear that it would be blamed on Ukrainian forces or that the finger would be pointed at the US itself, which would not be totally out of the question after the obvious US involvement in the terror attack on the Nord Stream gas pipeline.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4663.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35307" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4663.jpg" alt="" width="666" height="649" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4663.jpg 666w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4663-600x585.jpg 600w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 666px) 100vw, 666px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, if it wasn’t jihadists, and it wasn’t the Ukraine, the US or some kind of false flag, who would it have been?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, let’s ask, who could benefit from such an attack?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s no secret that Russia, China and many of the BRICS nations have been vocal in their support of Palestine and their opposition to Israel’s genocidal policies in Gaza.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, what better way to change the mood of the Russian people and those within Russia’s sphere of influence than for there to be a massacre of Russian civilians at the hands of Islamic extremists?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[09:19]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Afterall, could a shared grief over similar terrorist atrocities bring Israel sympathy from the Russian people and Russia’s political establishment?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4664.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35308" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4664.jpg" alt="" width="803" height="498" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4664.jpg 803w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4664-600x372.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4664-768x476.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 803px) 100vw, 803px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And looking closer to home, this would make sense, as we see this played out in the controlled Right-wing media every day!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4665.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35309" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4665.jpg" alt="" width="588" height="630" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Since October the seventh <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2023]</strong></span> certain parties, publications and individuals have done everything in their power to stoke anti-Islamic sentiment in Western nations in order to attempt to maintain public support for Israel’s War Crimes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But this all might sound a little tenuous, a “<em>conspiracy theory</em>” you may say. I mean it’s not like Israel has recently threatened Russia for not towing line, is it? Oh! I’ll leave you with this:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4668.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-35312" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4668.jpg" alt="" width="855" height="539" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4668.jpg 855w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4668-600x378.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Mark-Collett-Who-was-Really-Behind-the-Moscow-Terror-Attack-4668-768x484.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 855px) 100vw, 855px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Amir Weitmann:</strong> * You have to understand. And I get, I get, with all due respect, that I understand you are under Russian payroll and I understand this is a Russian propaganda. But you have to be very careful, because let me tell you, we’re going to finish this war! We’re going to win because we’re stronger! After this Russia will pay the price. Believe me! Russia will pay the price!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: red;">
<p><strong>RT Moscow:</strong> Russia will pay the price?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Amir Weitmann:</strong> Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel! Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us! And just Russia will pay the price!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Russia also, now listen to me very carefully. We are going to finish with these Nazis. We are going to win this war. It is going to take the time. It is going to take. But were going to win this war! Afterwards, were not forgetting. What you are doing. Were not forgetting! We will come! We will make sure that Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done. You as Russia! And you and all the enemies of Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you as all the people who are now making everything they can to support genocide of the jews in Israel. We are not forgetting. We are not forgetting! Remember exactly what I am saying now. You will pay the price!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: red;">
<p><strong>RT Moscow:</strong> Amir, I think it is safe to say that this is a very passionate conflict that is happening here.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Amir Weitmann:</strong> Well, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[shouting]</strong></span> people have been massacred! My people have been slaughtered by your proxies and you will pay the price! Is it clear? Believe me, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: red;">
<p><strong>RT Moscow:</strong> No, I don’t actually think it is clear.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Amir Weitmann:</strong> &#8230;. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> very, very, very sternly!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[11:34]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[*Amir Weitmann, the founder and chairman of the libertarian caucus in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, speaking to Russia, Today on Oct 19, 2023.]</span></p>
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<h3 id="TT3-07"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> Odysee Comments</span></h3>
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<p>(Comments as of 4/9/2024 = 53)</p>
<p>@ItWasMadeUp<br />
10 days ago<br />
Absolutely right, and the section at the end really proves who is responsible.</p>
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<p>@egwin<br />
9 days ago<br />
Meh, it was Nuland. Israel, America, what even is the difference between the two at this point?</p>
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Euroicus<br />
10 days ago<br />
Countless Palestinian men women and children are tortured to death in Israeli prisons everyday. Where is the (((mainstream media))) outrage about that?</p>
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<p>@Grumpole<br />
10 days ago<br />
The money behind the proxy regime of Ukraine is behind the attacks, we know this, Russia knows this, but once again the State of Organised Terrorism gets away with it as they always do.</p>
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AurigaBooks<br />
10 days ago(edited)<br />
They were JEWhadis. We&#8217;ve seen that movie before&#8230;<br />
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<p>@Spectromancer<br />
10 days ago<br />
See also Las Vegas “shooter”.</p>
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Open Borders for Israel<br />
10 days ago<br />
let&#8217;s assume for a minute that they did it and they were jihadis&#8230; where are they from? Tajikistan. There are 1.5 million Tajiks in Russia&#8230; so if we accept the official narrative, then the real issue behind this attack was mass immigration</p>
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<p>@Henkselipoika<br />
9 days ago<br />
Mark Collett says it&#8217;s different for Russia, where mass-immigration and multiculturalism just occur naturally and organically across the Russian/Soviet empire. Putin can be forgiven as there is a huge difference if nonwhite hordes from former colonial territories arrive by land rather than by sea. Tajikistan was a Soviet republic in Russian imperial sphere so it&#8217;s ok for Putin to allow mass-immigration of Tajik Muslims, totally different from UK allowing mass-immigration of Paki Muslims from former British Empire colonial territories in South Asia. (Assuming Collett is even still against Muslim mass-immigration..?)<br />
Of course the real difference is nonwhites want to invade and take over White Western countries, whereas in the past Russia&#8217;s Muslims just wanted to live in their own homelands independent of Soviet/Russian imperial rule, but good Orthodox Christian crusader Vladimir Putin sent Slavic Russians to die in bloody wars in Chechnya and decades of fighting in Dagestan, Ingushetia, etc. to forcibly keep millions of Muslims in his multiracial multiethnic Eurasian globalist Russian empire. And for sure Putin would love to re-annex all the Central Asian -stans if he could…</p>
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MagicManintheSky<br />
10 days ago<br />
When psychopathic Jews threaten you with mass-murder&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Believe them. They have form.</p>
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<p>@nboeger<br />
9 days ago<br />
Name a single modern terrorist event that did not have ties to mossad in some way. I can&#8217;t. isreal is the mother of terrorism.</p>
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<p>@FriedrichC<br />
10 days ago<br />
zion jews are going mad lately. They were probably behind this.</p>
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<p>@What<br />
10 days ago<br />
Sharp take makes sense.</p>
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<p>@ИванКожедуб<br />
8 days ago<br />
I think Jews need to be dealt with very, very, very sternly.</p>
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Kanketsu<br />
10 days ago<br />
QUI bono?</p>
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<p>@Gundobar<br />
5 days ago<br />
Qui! Qui!</p>
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<p>@kiro_darkpaw<br />
5 days ago<br />
The Jews are behind almost all geo-political evil, so this fits.</p>
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danzimmons<br />
5 days ago<br />
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<p>@m0rglee<br />
9 days ago<br />
4.27 &#8216;no problem whatsoever with information extracted from terrorists by any means necessary&#8217; WTF?? See NUREMBERG where they crushed testicles to &#8216;prove&#8217; the holohoax. Torture is nonsense. ISIS = Israel. Remember, never forget, these parasites must go.</p>
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<p>@ИванКожедуб<br />
8 days ago<br />
Agreed, I didn&#8217;t like that either. No to torture.</p>
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<p>@theestonian<br />
8 days ago<br />
Interesting theory, but I think things are much simpler. Putin lets in tons of caucasians/central asians, has to blame someone else. FSB director ignores US warnings, takes couple of hours for them to reach the massacre area &#8211; long after the terrorists are gone, needs to shift the blame to the west.<br />
I think Israel has its hands full and is already losing support in the US, they wouldn&#8217;t be causing terrorist attacks in Russia.</p>
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<p>@boyksno1<br />
10 days ago<br />
The Duran don&#8217;t think it was ISIS, check it out it&#8217;s quite a good vid they did.<br />
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el_diablo_blanco<br />
8 days ago<br />
These Moscow terrorist guys are far more despicable than any genuine Islamic terrorist. Say what you will about radical Muslims, they&#8217;re at least willing to fight/die for what they believe in. On the other hand, these Moscow terrorists are just criminal scum committing murder for money. And for only $5400? What a bunch of losers.</p>
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Lars Agerbæk Odyssæus<br />
8 days ago<br />
The Russian intelligence services set this up. The terrorists were supposed to flee into Ukraine and Russia was to follow them and destroy or capture some important area, city or buildings.<br />
The terrorists got arrested by Russian authorities that were not aware of the conspiracy.<br />
The plot failed and the Russian intelligence services send out an email from Isis claiming responsibility.<br />
That is my take.</p>
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ThinRedLine<br />
9 days ago<br />
I think It is the most likely possiblity</p>
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Well Tickled Pickle<br />
10 days ago<br />
The perpetrators of the Paris attack fled and some survived in the ghettos for a year or more. Jihad gets you to paradise regardless of whether or not you die. That is not evidence.</p>
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WarpSpeedJudas<br />
10 days ago<br />
also, logic goes out the window when dealing with 60 IQ at best goatfkrs<br />
although, I agree with his assessment that it was Israel</p>
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Pure<br />
10 days ago<br />
You mean Bataclan ? If so, i think all the main guys died on the spot or blew themselves up. After they tortured the victims in most horrid ways of course. Because to them the french civilians were evil godless degenerates, after all they liked the wrong kind of music. The kind of music that supernatural beings from other dimensions dont approve of. Also it was revenge attack for syria and iraq and they hated the french president. They said that themselves. So it was political/geo political too.<br />
The civilians who listened the wrong kind of music had to pay the heavy price for what the president of france and western armies did somewhere at some point. With their life. Because logic, logic of religious fundamentalist. Whereas those crocus attackers didnt say they had any such motive, rather they said that it was just about easy money. In general i find Marks take that religious fundamentalist terror attacks more than often resulting in the terror attackers death or suicide being way more accurate statement vs that its just random if they die or do suicide.</p>
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Well Tickled Pickle<br />
10 days ago<br />
None of that is relevant to the fact that most jihadis are willing to die but would rather live to fight another day. In fact, the use of suicide is highly debated amongst even fundamentalist scholars as it was never encouraged by Muhammad.</p>
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Pure<br />
9 days ago<br />
So they are very willing to die and do die very often. And they do blow themselves up.</p>
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Well Tickled Pickle<br />
9 days ago<br />
Do you know where it is encouraged in then Quran or Sunnah to commit suicide attacks? You do not, because they do not.</p>
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Pure<br />
9 days ago(edited)<br />
I know they think they are the good guys doing gods work and we are the bad guys and we need to be dealt with one way or another. Is that enough knowing about this issue mr quran expert ?</p>
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Well Tickled Pickle<br />
9 days ago<br />
Okay, so you don&#8217;t even know what the Sunnah is. Having read The Six Books myself, I can tell you the story that comes the closest to condoning suicide attacks. At the battle of Kaybhar, a Muslim died because he swung his sword at a Jew and it bounced back and mortally wounded the Muslim. The rest of the Muslims were concerned that he might go to hell because he died by his own sword. Muhammad said he was fine because he died by his own weapon that was striking an enemy. Aside from this story of a guy accidentally killing themselves by his own sword, there are no suicide attacks.<br />
There is a story of a Muslim being captured, lying about being a Muslim, and then being forgiven by Muhammad because he did so to save himself.</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
10 days ago(edited)<br />
imagine you&#8217;re one of the contracted would-be attackers:<br />
you&#8217;re being paid half the money upfront before carrying out the attack<br />
why the fugg not just take the money and then disappear WITHOUT carrying out the attack ???<br />
it&#8217;d be a lot easier to be on the run &amp; hiding from the guy(s) who tried to contract you than it would from an angry Russian government, I&#8217;d imagine<br />
imagine you&#8217;re the guy(s) trying to contract some would-be attackers:<br />
you&#8217;re paying some very untrustworthy dangerous criminal-types a bunch of money upfront, without any guarantees or collateral<br />
who in their right mind is stupid enough to attempt such a thing ???<br />
it&#8217;d make a lot more sense to just put a bounty on the heads of specific Russian targets that then gets paid out after the deed is done, I&#8217;d imagine (more bang for your buck, too)<br />
NONE of this &#8216;we were paid to go on a killing spree&#8217; narrative makes sense<br />
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<p>@What<br />
10 days ago<br />
&#8220;The jews would have us believe they are clever but when angered they become the most stupidest of devils&#8221; &#8211; joseph gobbels</p>
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Long Knife<br />
10 days ago<br />
I suppose someone with extra EXTRA deep pockets would be willing to risk losing €5,000 on such a stunt because that much would be such &#8216;small potatoes&#8217; to them<br />
but then that still doesn&#8217;t account for the unfathomable stupidity of the hired goons who could&#8217;ve very well just ran off with the money without risking their necks on the highly dangerous and highly murderous stunt<br />
hell, they probably could&#8217;ve informed on the party contracting them to the Russian government and still have gotten €5,000 in reward money along with some Russian state protection</p>
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<p>@What<br />
10 days ago<br />
Funny you say that last part because the usa actually warned russia of a terroist attack coming and what did putin do? He said it was blackmail. Putin pulled a lihop, let it happen on purpose, with the second order of thought being to blame the ukraine government for it, further prolonging and justifying the conflict/dragging it out further, boosting his economy, popularity and very good moral standing.<br />
Now i can hear the spergs saying im anti putin and pro usa. Im not. All im saying is that all these people are mobsters fighting for turf, they know who is doing what and playing their cards accordingly. Putin the very next day after the attack says he will be supporting the palestinians and iran even more now, then turns around and blames ukraine for the attack. Yes its two states ran by jews&#8230;but its different jewish factions, he&#8217;s ex intelligence, putin understands nuance but is pretending to be stupid/morally outraged.<br />
Guy basically did a version of pearl harbor where the usa crippled japan&#8217;s economy, japan sent pilots to bomb their harbor and usa received intelligence thats what was going to happen yet did NOTHING because they want a pretext to enter the war.<br />
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Long Knife<br />
10 days ago<br />
well, I&#8217;d have to say that that at least makes more sense than what&#8217;s been officially explained so far<br />
come to think of it; why would the Russian government openly announce that they captured the terrorists and tortured them until they confessed that they were hired to carry out the attack ?<br />
why not, instead, after capturing the idiot hired goons / terrorists, keep that part under wraps while having the hired goons go through the motions of the rest of the plan to escape to wherever and collect the rest of the money, and thus trace and nab the contractors along with the hired goons ?<br />
even if these captured hired goons had to go into Ukraine to &#8216;escape&#8217; and collect the rest of the money, I&#8217;m sure the Russians would have their various ways and means of keeping them tracked and under their control at all times</p>
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<p>@What<br />
10 days ago<br />
You&#8217;re trying to overthink this lol. Had they done that it would get out and be spun as them aiding and abetting terrorism while not getting the outcome they wanted. Im not a fan of hypotheticals either way, good or bad. I try to stay laser focused on what happened/is happening so i dont get caught up in abstractions and whatifisms. Not saying u are, just speaking in general.</p>
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Long Knife<br />
10 days ago(edited)<br />
hey, if the cops catch a hitman in (or right after) the act, they&#8217;re gonna try to find out who hired them AND try to catch THAT GUY in the act as well<br />
they sure don&#8217;t just go telling the news right away that they&#8217;ve captured a blood-soaked hitman; they quietly try to turn that apprehended hitman into an informant so that they can snare everyone involved with plenty of solid evidence to go around<br />
just seems like the logical thing for the Russians to have done in this case instead of what we&#8217;ve gotten from them so far<br />
&#8230;meh, all I can say for sure is that it stinks to high heaven no matter how we slice it, and there&#8217;s not much info to go on, so&#8230; :idk:</p>
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<p>@What<br />
10 days ago<br />
yea. i jusst see it as mobsters fighting for turf, they&#8217;re all mobsters.</p>
<p>allsight<br />
10 days ago(edited)<br />
FYI that usa warning was only for 48 hours around the 7th or 8th of March. Clearly predictive programming/foreshadowing either for something they knew would happen later or what they had expected to happen at the time they gave the warning</p>
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10 days ago<br />
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<p>WarpSpeedJudas<br />
10 days ago<br />
putting up $2,250 for something big that may or may not happen is not a difficult task</p>
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Long Knife<br />
10 days ago<br />
wouldn&#8217;t €5,000 be $5,400 ?<br />
but yeah, either way, it&#8217;s not much of a risk for someone who might have a ton of money at their disposal<br />
still, can Tajikistani hired goons really be that &#8216;tarded ?<br />
I find that part of the equation the tougher one to explain away</p>
<p>Long Knife<br />
10 days ago(edited)<br />
&#8230;oh wait, I see why you got that amount now<br />
I thought Mark said 5,000 was what they got paid upfront<br />
geez, if it was 2,250, that only makes the Tajikistanis all the more &#8216;tarded :roll_eyes:<br />
they probably had to split it 4 ways, too :hyper_troll:</p>
<p>Pure<br />
10 days ago<br />
It could be mercenaries paid by ukraine too given jihadis/muslims/islamic mercenaries fight in ukraines army ranks. Its not like when and as ukrainians shell eastern ukrainian/russian civilians/civilian targets that they send out messages. As far as i know, they dont and havent send any messages ever. They just try to kill as many civilians as possible.</p>
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WarpSpeedJudas<br />
10 days ago(edited)<br />
Today in Historical Illiteracy: “Killing as many civilians as possible is NOT sending a message”<br />
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Pure<br />
10 days ago<br />
I know its hard, but try to comprehend what you read and that i meant what i wrote. That being no message was given/sent/left in case of crocus attack. Not by the attackers, not by anyone else either. It was just an attack on civilians by crazy merc fuks. And also has not been sent in ukrainian armys attacks targeting eastern ukrainian/russian civilians. No messages have been given/left by anyone.</p>
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<p>@Smultron<br />
10 days ago<br />
It was ISIS. Easy</p>
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I doubt ISIS. Even their &#8220;Abu Bakr Al Baghadi&#8221; was exposed to be a jew agent called Simon Elliot</p>
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<p>@Henkselipoika<br />
9 days ago<br />
Why did Russia&#8217;s own security services claim to have killed 6 ISIS jihadists on 2 March 2024 in a “counterterrorism operation” in Karabulak in the 96% Muslim Russian Republic of Ingushetia, in the North Caucasus? Vladimir Putin, Russian FSB, TASS state news agency were playing along with a fake ISIS terror threat til just weeks before Putin failed to prevent the Moscow massacre? (Also, Russia killing Muslims claiming they were Islamic State terrorists would establish clear motive for jihadi reprisals against Moscow—contra fools who don&#8217;t know Russia and Islamists have been fighting for decades and IS didn&#8217;t appear from nowhere just because they haven&#8217;t been paying attention).<br />
https://www.euronews.com/2024/03/04/alleged-is-militants-in-russias-north-caucasus-killed-in-shootout-with-security-services<br />
«Six alleged members of the Islamic State group were killed in a shootout in Russia&#8217;s volatile North Caucasus region, in what was described by security forces as a “counterterrorism operation.&#8221;<br />
According to the Russian National Anti-Terrorism Committee (NAC), on Saturday, six men barricaded themselves in a third-floor apartment in Karabulak, a town of about 30,000 in Russia’s semi-autonomous Republic of Ingushetia.<br />
A shootout with security services followed, as surrounding streets were blocked off and residents of the apartment block evacuated to a nearby school, the Russian Interfax news agency reported.»<br />
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10 days ago<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[In this interview Andy Steel and Roland Angle of Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth (AE911 Truth) discuss why the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center buildings needs to be exposed to not only to the general public but specifically to the engineering community.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Although there are over 3,500 architects and engineers who have joined AE911 Truth and who support this view, the vast majority of their fellow professionals have been deliberately kept the dark by the compromised leadership of their professional organizations. Roland Angle says that:</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>In the course of the last four or five years, we’ve made that presentation to more than <strong>1,000 engineers at the grassroots level</strong>, all across the country is everywhere from Florida to Alaska, to the New York area, to California, the Southwest, the Southeast, the Midwest. Everywhere we’ve gone, <strong>we’re getting 100% agreement from the rank and file</strong> that the issues that we’ve raised need to be addressed.</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">“<em>Host Andy Steele is joined by AE911Truth’s Roland Angle to discuss to his upcoming book, Engineering the 9/11 Cover-Up: How the WTC Evidence was Kept Secret from the World, which will name names and lay out the story of how the official narrative of the WTC towers’ destruction on September 11th, 2001 was cemented into the minds of the public.</em></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><em>As well, Roland discusses the work of Project Due Diligence and the success it has had, measured in the resistance it has received from professional engineering organizations, which have pulled out all the stops in trying to prevent presentations of the WTC evidence from happening at their local chapters.</em>”</span></p>
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September 11 attacks<br />
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September 11 attacks, also called 9/11 attacks, series of airline hijackings and suicide attacks committed in 2001 by 19 militants associated with the Islamic extremist group al-Qaeda against targets in the United States, the deadliest terrorist attacks on American soil in U.S. history. The attacks against New York City and Washington, D.C., caused extensive death and destruction and triggered an enormous U.S. effort to combat terrorism. Some 2,750 people were killed in New York, 184 at the Pentagon, and 40 in Pennsylvania (where one of the hijacked planes crashed after the passengers attempted to retake the plane); all 19 terrorists died (see Researcher&#8217;s Note: September 11 attacks). Police and fire departments in New York were especially hard-hit: hundreds had rushed to the scene of the attacks, and more than 400 police officers and firefighters were killed.]</p>
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Exposing those who covered up the Crime of the Century<br />
Host Andy Steele is joined by AE911Truth’s Roland Angle to discuss to his upcoming book, Engineering the 9/11 Cover-Up: How the WTC Evidence was Kept Secret from the World, which will name names and lay out the story of how the official narrative of the WTC towers’ destruction on September 11th, 2001 was cemented into the minds of the public.<br />
As well, Roland discusses the work of Project Due Diligence and the success it has had, measured in the resistance it has received from professional engineering organizations, which have pulled out all the stops in trying to prevent presentations of the WTC evidence from happening at their local chapters.<br />
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">CONTENTS</span></h3>
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<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-1">AE911 Truth Chairman’s Qualification and Background</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-2">Project Due Diligence</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-3">NIST Report Utterly Failed to Explain the Collapses</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-4">The Founding of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-5">911 as an Engineering Issue Not an Architectural Issue</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-6">The Start a Project Called Project Due Diligence</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-7">Training Engineers to Do Presentations</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-8">Results – 100% Agreement That NIST Reports Did Not Meet Professional Standards</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-9">The American Society of Civil Engineers [ASCE] Preventing Presentations to Its Members</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-10">Project Due Diligence — A Coherent Explanation of What Went Wrong with the Gov Reports</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-11">We Have Identified the “Persons of Interest”</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-12">Professional Organizations Unable to Debunk AE911truth So They Try to Cancel It</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-13">The People That Committed This Crime Also Planned the Cover Up</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-14">The Cover-Up Sequence</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-15">NIST Reports, Didn’t Even Examine the Evidence of Explosives</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-16">From Sep 2021 to Oct 22 Most of the Evidence was Destroyed</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-17">NIST Shouldn’t Have Been the Organization to Investigate 911 Due to Conflict of Interest</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-18">Professional Engineers Associations Involved in the Cover-Up</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-19">We’ve Identified 23 Decisions in Those Reports That Are Not Consistent with the Evidence</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-20">The Investigative Process was Derailed by the Very Organizations Creating the Reports</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-21">Peter Jennings’ Strange Question About Building Seven</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-22">Book: Engineering the 911 Cover-Up &#8211; How the WTC Evidence was Kept Secret from the World</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-23">911 is a Major Event &#8211; Hundreds of Thousands, Millions of People Died as a Result</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-24">As Engineers, We Still Have Our Duty to Tell the Truth as We Understand It</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-25">They Try to Stop the Discussion from Happening at All!</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-26">Most Engineers Aren’t Even Aware That a Third Tower Fell</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-27">ASCE Doesn’t Want Any Discussion of WTC Building 7</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-28">NIST &#8211; for the First and Only Time in History a Steel-Framed High-Rise was Destroyed by Routine Fire!</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-29">NIST Gave a Complicated Series of Rube-Goldberg Progression of Events Explanation for WTC-7</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-30">University of Alaska Said the NIST Report on WTC-7 Wasn’t Possible</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-31">Engineers Have Been Betrayed by Our Professional Leadership</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-32">The Importance of 911 Truth</a></p>
<p><a href="#AE911Truth20230528-33">When You Run Away and Hide Your Head in the Sand, Things Only Get Worse</a></p>
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<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> Welcome to another episode of 9/11 Free Fall. I am the host, Andy Steele, and today we’re going to be talking with Roland Angle, our chairman here at AE911 Truth.</p>
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<p>Now, I don’t know if it’s going to run before or after this particular Free Fall episode, but at some point this week, you’re going to see him giving an awesome presentation on our new show called The Focus. So we bring on a panel of engineers we’re presenting on topics that are within the controlled demolition issue, but it zeroes in on a particular aspect, questions not before asked.</p>
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<p>So if it’s not out yet, keep an eye out for that bulletin and Roland’s presentation. If we have put it out already by the time you see this show, then certainly go to our YouTube channel and check it out.</p>
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<p>But who is this guy? Well, he’s been on this show before. He is the chairman of AE911 Truth. He graduated from the University of California, Berkeley, with a Bachelor of Science in civil engineering and also served in the US. Army Special Forces, where he was trained in the use of explosives. That’s very pertinent to our issue.</p>
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<p>He became a licensed civil engineer in California, and his 50 years of engineering experience has included designing and testing blast hardened missile launch facilities and designing US. Naval explosive containers, harbor terminal facilities, earth foundation systems, and hydraulic systems. He’s owned three different construction companies, and he’s taught engineering subjects to high school students.</p>
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<p>And of course, he heads up AE911 Truth’s Project Due Diligence, which we’ll be talking a little bit about today. It’s getting engineers out into the grassroots of the engineering community, also out into local citizens groups as well. Talking about the World Trade Center evidence, the points clearly showing that these buildings were brought down with explosives. Along with that, Roland has a book that is going to be coming out. We announced it earlier this week.</p>
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<p>So let’s just go ahead and bring him in. He’ll be talking about that today. Roland, welcome back to 9/11 Free Fall!</p>
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<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> Thanks for having me back, Andy. Always good to be here.</p>
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<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> Yeah, and it’s great having you here. You’re doing a lot of work, and it’s work that when we see the fruit of it, we talk about it.</p>
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<p>But a lot of stuff that happens behind the scenes, people don’t get to see. So I love to be able to highlight the heroes here that don’t always get out into the spotlight and don’t really seek it.</p>
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<p>But we wouldn’t have this Project Due Diligence going on if you hadn’t stepped up and really put all of this together, had the idea and devised it. And you work with a lot of engineer volunteers. In doing that, we’re probably picking up new people, don’t know what the heck I’m talking about when I say Project Due Diligence. So just briefly remind our audience what that is, what those engineers are doing, and essentially what it’s all about.</p>
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<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> Project Due Diligence is our attempt to educate our fellow engineers, particularly the structural and civil engineers, in regards to the evidence that we have uncovered regarding the failure of the three high rise buildings at World Trade Center in New York City on 9/11 <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[2001]</strong></span></p>
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<p>We have examined the reports that were issued by the National Institute of Standards of Technology <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[NIST]</strong></span> on the Twin Towers in 2005 and on the Building Seven in 2008, as they were required to do by the law that was passed by Congress in October of 2002, more than a year after the event. Tasking them with the job of investigating the collapse of the buildings and coming up with the reasons why the buildings collapsed.</p>
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<p>So we started reading those reports as architects and engineers individually back in 2005 when the first one came out. By 2006, it was already evident that the report on the Twin Towers was seriously flawed. And we knew that because it never did explain what it was supposed to explain, which is why and how the buildings collapsed.</p>
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<p>It was a 13,000 page document that ended at the beginning of the initiation of the collapse of the building. And they explained the collapse of the building with three words:</p>
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<p>And that was their total technical explanation for how that building came down.</p>
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<p>Well, that’s not what they were supposed to do. They were supposed to give us a model, an analysis, and a reason why that building came down, both of them, in the manner in which they did, which was in about 10 seconds. And that was a totally unexpected event. Everyone in the world was shocked by what they saw that day.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-3"><span style="color: #ff0000;">NIST Report Utterly Failed to Explain the Collapses</span></h3>
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<p>And it was our engineering expertise that was called upon to explain why and how that happened. And that report utterly failed to even address the question! It went into the plane impacts. It went into the fires. It went into the structural damage due to the plane impacts, the damage caused by the fires. But once the collapse began, the narrative left off, and didn’t give us any explanation for why the entire lower parts of the buildings collapsed.</p>
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<p>So in 2006, an architect in the East Bay, Richard Gage, began to question this report, and he began to make appearances to his fellow architects, to engineers, to the general public, to anyone who would listen. And I attended one of those performances back in 2007, or so right around there is and he made a great deal of sense. He made a good argument that the report on the Twin Towers actually raised more questions than it answered.</p>
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<p>So he had a petition there that people could sign asking for a new investigation, and he had one for architects and engineers as experts in the field. I signed that petition is and a couple of years later, the report on Building Seven came out, and it took several years to analyze that report. We did get the details of a collapse mechanism in that report that NIST compiled.</p>
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<p>But as we began to look into their what they called a “<em>progressive collapse theory</em>”, the details of the report indicated that there were decisions made that did not follow the evidence and did not give a scientific explanation for why the building came down that made any sense.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-4"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Founding of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth</span></h3>
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<p>So we simply added Building Seven onto our questions about the Twin Towers. And in the meantime, Richard had founded the Architects and Engineers for 911Truth that we are currently operating within. And the organization since then has grown and involved literally thousands of people. More than 3,500, 3,600 architects and engineers have since signed the petition calling for a new investigation. I think more than 30,000 lay persons have signed that petition. We presented it to our Congress people and to NIST, and we’ve made every attempt to get the engineering community to look at this event with new eyes is and we have met with a lot of resistance.</p>
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<p>So when I came on the board in 2017, I believe it was, I was asked if I would oversee an outreach to the engineering community is under Richard <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Gage]</strong></span> they had focused on the architectural community, and they had gone to the national conventions of the American Institute of Architects <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[AIA]</strong></span> for three years in a row and raised a proposition at the conventions calling for a new investigation and asking for the AIA to endorse that request. And the AIA refused! The vote in favor of that never got more than about ten or 11% of the attendees.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-5"><span style="color: #ff0000;">911 as an Engineering Issue Not an Architectural Issue</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So my impression of that was that the architects didn’t want to get out in front of the engineers. This was really not an architectural failure. Architects, of course, and engineers worked together to design and build structures of this nature. But architects, that’s not their bailiwick. They’re not going to go into the structural details of a collapse of this nature. And I could understand their reluctance to pre-empt the engineering community when it was really an engineering problem.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-6"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Start a Project Called Project Due Diligence</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I proposed that we start a project called Project Due Diligence to take the information that we had put together our analysis of the NIST Reports and the FEMA report before it and take it out to the engineering community because it was clear that the leadership of our professional organizations did not want to have this discussion with their members. And that was made clear to us by their attitude when we approached them and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Listen, we’ve got this information. We think it’s important for our community. We’d like to make presentations at your conference. We’d like a venue so that we can have this discussion and everyone in our profession can benefit from it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That wasn’t happening.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we took on an approach of instead of going to the leadership, we decided to go to the membership at the grassroots level. And we focused on the American Society of Civil Engineers is because that organization is the big gorilla on the block in the profession. They’ve been around since 1857. They have an established reputation of looking out for the interest of our profession.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[11:50]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And in fact, when I was in college, I joined their honor society, Kai Epsilon, because it was an organization that said that it was going to promote the ethical and professional interests of the profession.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I thought that was a good thing to do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-7"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Training Engineers to Do Presentations</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, Tony Szamboti and I put together a PowerPoint based upon a lot of other information that had been collected by Richard and others before him. And we started taking that information out. Then I went, oh, I took the petition signers that, the petition that I had signed. We had the record of everyone that had signed that since is at that time there was something like 1,000 signatures there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I went through there with the help of the staff, and we selected the civil and structural engineers that had signed. And I began calling them up, and asking them if they were interested in an effort to take this information that we had compiled out to the rank and file branches of the American Society of Civil Engineers <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[ASCE]</strong></span> all across the country, of which there are about 161 local branches.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I was successful in recruiting about 40 engineers that said that they would be glad to do that is they thought that that was an important thing to do is and they volunteered to learn the material and to make presentations in their area if the opportunity arose.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we got that information out to them. We had some training. We went through the information. We felt satisfied that it made sense. And we began reaching out in 2018 to the local chapters of ASCE.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-8"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Results – 100% Agreement That NIST Reports Did Not Meet Professional Standards</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And what we found was that wherever we made these presentations, wherever we got accepted and then we went out and we made the presentations, we found that the engineers that were in attendance were 100% in agreement with us is that the NIST Reports did not meet our professional standards. They had a lot of anomalies, a lot of omissions, a lot of problems with those reports that we felt needed to be addressed. And we asked them if they felt the same way after we made our presentations is we always got 100% agreement.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So in the course of the last four or five years, we’ve made that presentation to more than 1,000 engineers at the grassroots level, all across the country is everywhere from Florida to Alaska, to the New York area, to California, the Southwest, the Southeast, the Midwest. Everywhere we’ve gone, we’re getting 100% agreement from the rank and file that the issues that we’ve raised need to be addressed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[14:56]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-9"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The American Society of Civil Engineers [ASCE] Preventing Presentations to Its Members</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And yet we have come across extremely recalcitrant leadership that insists upon branding us as “<em>conspiracy theorists</em>” and whenever they can, preventing us from making any kind of presentations to their chapters. And that has happened. We’ve been accepted and then later rejected more than 30 times in the last four years. And we’ve managed to make 50 presentations, many of them to ASCE chapters, but also to the National Society of Professional Engineers and some other engineering organizations and some public presentations as well.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-10"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Project Due Diligence — A Coherent Explanation of What Went Wrong with the Gov Reports</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s what Project Due Diligence is all about. And the book that I’m putting together, this is not my information. This is information that’s been collected by all those volunteers and by all the researchers that went through the reports and came up with the anomalies that we were able to put together in a coherent strategy, a coherent explanation of what we thought went wrong with the reports.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s Project Due Diligence. That’s what the book is about. I’m not taking credit for it myself. This has been a huge effort over many years, and we now need to make a report to the profession and to the public that explains what the process has been, what our findings have been, what the reaction has been t11</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we’ve gone a little further and identified a lot of the engineers that were involved in the preparation of the NIST Reports, the FEMA reports, and all the periphery people, the contractors, the academics, all the people that had anything to do with this question. We have tried to identify them, and we call them persons of interest.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Because we believe that somewhere in that group of people are persons who were somehow coerced into making decisions that were not consistent with our professional standards, that justified the official narrative. And that narrative is what is currently being bolstered by our professional organizations. And there’s really no basis in reality for it. And we’re unable to get them to engage in a dialogue.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the book is our next step.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> I consider it sort of the ignition test for these professional organizations. And what do I mean by that? Let’s just going back to the nano-thermite evidence when they actually do ignition tests to actually get the thermitic reaction on the samples there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And sometimes you have to test what you’re up against just to see the reaction that they give you. For instance, when we did the, Span campaign, the defensive and ridiculous answers from politicians was outlined by somebody in a video saying:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We’ve got a major problem here, because asking them these direct questions about this evidence brought this out of them and showed where the real problem is.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[18:26]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-12"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Professional Organizations Unable to Debunk AE911truth So They Try to Cancel It</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And so through Project Due Diligence, by going to try to give these presentations, you’re basically testing these professional organizations. And I don’t know if that was the main motive when you started, but that’s what it’s turning into. And we’re seeing the resistance here. Because if there is nothing to what we’re saying, then they should be able to debunk it. They don’t debunk it. Or to have some kind of open dialogue. If they think it’s just a ridiculous conspiracy theory, what better opportunity is there to try to shoot holes in it, take it down and show it for what it is? But they won’t do that either because they can’t argue with that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So now their only recourse is to try to cancel presentations, get ahead of them, do the politicking behind the scenes. And I don’t want to get into too much details about some of the things that our engineers are going through, but there is a lot of pressure on these engineers to maintain the status quo, to not rock the boat and to not bring up this issue at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So kind of going into some of what I perceive going to be some of the themes in your upcoming book Roland, what skin does organizations like the ASCE and the other professional organizations have in this game? I mean, if the NIST Reports are wrong, seemingly they should want to be the heroes for taking the first step towards spotlighting that or at least acknowledging it and coming off as an unbiased and science-first organization. So why do you think there’s such a strong cover-up there?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-13"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The People That Committed This Crime Also Planned the Cover Up</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> It’s pretty clear that the evidence shows that the analyses that NIST has come up with are wrong. We’re 1000 to nothing on that case, from the rank and file! Unfortunately, the people that committed this crime also planned the cover-up. You can divide the crime into three sections; the planning, the execution and the cover-up. Clearly the people that committed the crime did not want to be held responsible for what they did.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-14"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Cover-Up Sequence</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the cover-up involves planning a false narrative, creating some patsies that are going to take the fall, and then monitoring that cover up over time, as time goes on, to make sure that nobody deviates from that narrative and anybody that does is going to be punished.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we saw on the day of the event there were multiple recordings and eyewitness reports of explosions in the buildings, overwhelmingly, some 40 plus. And almost every one of them, the talking head that was representing the interviews described and interviewed people that also described multiple explosions in the buildings.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you would think that the narrative that would follow from that naturally would be:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“We’re going to investigate what could have possibly caused those explosions in the building.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Instead, what you saw was a narrative that took over the very next day saying they:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Had already identified the 19 hijackers. They knew who they were, we had their faces, we had their names. And what must have caused the buildings to collapse was the airplane impacts and the fires that weakened the structure afterwards and that’s why the buildings collapsed.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that became the narrative from there on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-15"><span style="color: #ff0000;">NIST Reports, Didn’t Even Examine the Evidence of Explosives</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And even NIST, when they compiled their reports, didn’t even examine the evidence of explosives. And they admitted that! Very strange! Very strange! If you have all these eyewitness reports, you have buildings that were previously the target of a terrorist attacks using explosives, 1993. And the Fire Code called for in collapses of this type, you would always check for incendiaries and explosives. They ignored the Fire Code.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[22:57]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So these were all problems, problems for their narrative. And in order to get around that, they had devised a plan where they would work with the primary professional engineering organizations to provide the investigators and look into why the buildings collapsed with them. So FEMA took over the examination immediately upon the event, which is their job. They’re supposed to, they are the Federal Emergency Management Agency. So they go in whenever there’s an emergency. This was clearly an emergency that fell within their purview, and they went in. And they were supposed to be the ones that sort of made an initial assessment and then came up with a plan for whatever needed to be done to further the investigation, take whatever remedial action that was necessary.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-16"><span style="color: #ff0000;">From Sep 2021 to Oct 22 Most of the Evidence was Destroyed</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it took a year and a month, October the first, 2002, for Congress to act to pass a law that specifically designated the National Institute of Standards and Technology as the agency that was going to conduct those investigations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So in the intervening years, in the intervening months, from September of 2001 to October of 2002, most of the evidence was destroyed. They picked up all the steel debris. They destroyed it. They sent steel off to China for recycling. Nobody seemed to be able to stop them, even though there were many people on the scene that realized that they were destroying evidence that was going to be necessary in order to conduct a forensic examination of what had happened. But at any rate, NIST was designated as the agency to provide the investigations in October of 2002, and they took that responsibility up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-17"><span style="color: #ff0000;">NIST Shouldn’t Have Been the Organization to Investigate 911 Due to Conflict of Interest</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But there’s a lot of evidence that they shouldn’t have because they were not immune from the kind of pressures that was going to be brought on them to alter the events and save face for people that might have been responsible. Because the executive branch of the government was responsible for protecting us that day, and they failed to do so. And this is part of the Department of Commerce, which is also an executive arm of the government.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So essentially, you had a case where you were asking the executive branch of the government to examine the executive branch of the government, and the executive branch of the government was a party to the event.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[26:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So the director of NIST should have declined that directive from Congress and cited a conflict of interest, which was actually in the law. He could have referred to the law that they had just passed and said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“I can’t do this. We have a conflict of interest.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But they pursued it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then they went out and hired subcontractors to do a lot of the work, do a lot of the analysis, gathering of the evidence, what was left, and so on.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-18"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Professional Engineers Associations Involved in the Cover-Up</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that presents the problem that we’re faced with which is that the big mucky mucks in the professional engineers associations, primarily from ASCE and the Structural Engineers Association, were the ones that actually conducted the investigations and wrote many parts of the reports that NIST produced.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So they have a vested interest. They are signatories to the original NIST Reports and it’s going to be difficult for them to admit that the reports are not consistent with the evidence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that was a bit of genius on the part of the people that planned the crime. They knew that they were going to have to plan the cover-up as well. And they did that by dragging in the luminaries of the engineering field, had them participate in the report and control the outcome of the reports by having people in strategic places that were able to pull the strings to make sure that the conclusions that they came to were not consistent with the evidence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now let me just be clear. I don’t believe that anybody in the engineering field, in any part of these organizations was a criminal that planned the crime. I think that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time and they were somehow incentivized to make decisions in the process of those reports that weren’t consistent with the evidence. And I’m quite sure that there’s many of them that are aware of that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But when you’re dealing with a criminal activity of this nature that plunged the whole world into World War it can be quite intimidating. And I can understand that. I have compassion for these people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-19"><span style="color: #ff0000;">We’ve Identified 23 Decisions in Those Reports That Are Not Consistent with the Evidence</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On the other hand, they are the ones that could possibly lead us to the perpetrators because somebody pulled their strings. Somebody told them:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: blue;">“No, you’re not going to make that decision. You’re going to make this decision.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And we’ve identified 23 decisions in the process of all three of those reports that are not consistent with the evidence and don’t make sense in the sense of the people that made them couldn’t have possibly believed that that was true, unless they were incompetent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I can’t believe that 23 separate decisions were made randomly all in favor of the alternative narrative that they had created, and all dismissive of the notion that explosives could have brought the buildings down.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[29:17]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s where we are. It’s politics! Politics! Somebody within power had the ability to influence the leadership of our professional organizations in the engineering field, and we took the black eye! Because all three of those buildings came down due to what we call “<em>design loads</em>”. The two towers were designed to take a hit from a commercial airplane. And Building Seven, which supposedly collapsed according to their narrative due to normal office fires, had never occurred in the history of steel frame buildings.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So when you have a failure of that magnitude, of any magnitude really that where the structure fails under a design load, something that was designed to withstand, then you have a problem. Something is wrong with your theory! There’s something that you don’t understand. Why didn’t it hold up under the loads that you thought it would?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So you have to investigate that. And that usually involves an investigative team and then issuing a report, having it peer reviewed by other organizations.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then there’s a debate that goes back and forth about the findings. And over time, you narrow down the field of possibilities, and you eventually come to the correct conclusion. And that’s the practice. That’s the engineering practice that’s been going on for hundreds, if not thousands of years.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-20"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Investigative Process was Derailed by the Very Organizations Creating the Reports</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So in this case, that whole process was derailed by the very organizations that had been involved in creating the reports in the first place, at least at the top levels.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So that’s a problem for us as engineers. We cannot allow that kind of misinformation to creep into the reality of our practice, because it will only spread like a cancer. And we’ll then begin really having problems with our designs and with our construction procedures because we have allowed ourselves to be conned by an investigation that’s not accurate, and a reliance on a theory of failure that doesn’t match the facts.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: black;">
<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> That’s right. And once you start letting science get infiltrated, muddied, by politics, by just pre-designed stories that they wanted to cement in people’s heads early on, once you allow that to happen and you keep on redrawing that line, then it’s hard to stop it from happening again in the future. All science gets politicized, and then people start believing in something that has no scientific backing behind it whatsoever, because you’re already set down the precedent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Everything that happens in government and in our society is all based on precedent. You let people get away with one thing here, then they can get away with something else even bigger in the future. And there definitely was a decision at some point, sometime, to not look or take seriously the possibility that explosives were used in those towers. They were throwing it out right from day one.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[32:37]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-21"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Peter Jennings’ Strange Question About Building Seven</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In fact, I have a clip of Peter Jennings from ABC Nightly News the evening of September 11. This is after Building Seven had already come down. He brings on an engineer, and I think it’s somebody of some importance in the engineering community giving his initial thoughts on why the buildings possibly came down. And can’t remember who that was off the top of my head. But at one point, Peter Jennings speculates, and he says:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Have we gotten a lock on why that third building come down there?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And you can see sort of like a little bit of suspicion in his eyes. And he asks the question. He said:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“Do you think that possibly a structural engineer had some hand in the planning of this event?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is a really strange question to be asking after asking about World Trade Center Seven. So even at that moment, you could sort of tell that Peter Jennings mind was spinning a little bit, wondering how these buildings could have just come down from the airplane impact. And in the case of Building Seven, no airplane hitting it at all!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then, of course, I never heard him mention anything else about that afterwards.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But they had to get ahead of this as quickly as possible. And I believe that at some point the word had to be put forth that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: black;">“We are not going to consider the possibility that explosives were used. We’re going to dismiss them outright!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that is part of the cover-up, whether willing or unwilling!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s fascinating to see what happens sociologically, professionally, to contribute to cover-ups. Not everybody who participates in a cover up really sees the full picture of it or even knows that they’re in a cover-up, but that is all part of the cover-up.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-22"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Book: Engineering the 911 Cover-Up &#8211; How the WTC Evidence was Kept Secret from the World</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And from my understanding, that’s what some of your book is going to be getting into.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now I just want to tell our audience the name of the book is; Engineering the 9/11 Cover-up-How the WTC Evidence was Kept Secret from the World. If you donate $35 to help us keep our operation going while we put this book together and do all the great stuff that PDD <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Project Due Diligence]</strong></span> is doing, you can get early access to the book. You get the chapters sent to your inbox every month, a nice little flip book format that we’ve got set up for this. You can send your commentary in. We certainly want to hear your suggestions and thoughts about it. And then, of course, there will be a final volume that goes out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Roland, what do you want the legacy of this book to be? What do you want people coming away with when they read it and taking forward into the future with regard to this issue?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div style="color: blue;">
<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> Well, that’s a good question. We feel strongly that our profession has been misrepresented, and we want to set the record straight. We may not have the political clout at this particular time to bring this information to the public in a way that has the kind of impact that it should have, because we don’t control the media and we don’t control the government agencies that were involved.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But we can publish our findings and make it available to the public and to other members of our profession so they at least understand that there were some of us that understood that there was a real problem here. And we made every effort to bring it to the attention of our fellow colleagues and to the public at large so that we could come to a realistic and accurate appraisal of why those buildings failed, causing such great loss of life and becoming the event that was used to project foreign policy into the future for the next decades.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-23"><span style="color: #ff0000;">911 is a Major Event &#8211; Hundreds of Thousands, Millions of People Died as a Result</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So this is a major event. This is not just a dam failure, or a road failure, or a minor failure, every failure is a failure. Some failures don’t cost anybody their life, and that’s a fortunate thing. There are other failures that do and cost maybe dozens of lives. But this failure resulted in a loss of something like 25, 27, 2,800 people in the buildings and in the planes. And resulted in further loss of life because of the changes in direction that the foreign policy of the United States took after that. Hundreds of thousands, millions of people, died as a result of those events.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So we have a heavy burden!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And as engineers, civil engineers and structural engineers, of course, we always have the foremost notion that the safety of the public is our number one priority. And in this case, the buildings came down under design loads that they were supposed to withstand. And we have to explain why! The government has issued reports.</p>
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<p>And when we look at those reports, we say those reports fail. They have too many anomalies, too many omissions, too many things that are unexplained. And there’s an absolute refusal on the part of the authorities and the engineering profession leadership to have any discussion of this whatsoever!</p>
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<p>So that’s very suspicious. As you say, if they had an answer for the questions that we raised, believe me, they would come forth with those answers and they would say:</p>
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<p>That’s the process that we normally go through. But to be met with silence, that’s a telltale event right there. They don’t want to discuss it. Why not? Only because they don’t have an answer!</p>
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<p>So we already have our answer. We know they’re wrong. We know the reports are wrong. We know they were taken over by political forces that are outside of the field of engineering.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-24"><span style="color: #ff0000;">As Engineers, We Still Have Our Duty to Tell the Truth as We Understand It</span></h3>
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<p>But as engineers, we still have our duty. And our duty is to tell the truth as we understand it to the best of our ability, for how those buildings fail. And that’s what we’re going to do. And we’re going to make the record for history. And we know that history is going to exonerate us at some point. Things will have progressed on to the point where this becomes a historical event. And those people that are responsible for the cover-up and the crime are long gone. Perhaps at that point the truth will be able to emerge.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:19]</strong></span></p>
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<p>But we don’t want to wait that long. We think that there are still people around that were involved in the crime, and we’re going to make every attempt to bring them to justice with what we can do, which is through a competent forensic examination of the evidence.</p>
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<p>So that’s what we’re going to do. And we’re going to point out the people that were involved in those investigations, and hopefully somebody among them will have the courage to come forward and give us more information about how exactly these strings were pulled and these decisions were made.</p>
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<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> Right. And we’re also going to be sending this book to engineers when we can, because engineers, like anybody in a profession, if they’re really into what they do, they read about it, right? Just like doctors read medical journals or read about some new development, or a new disease coming out. They do it in their spare time, a lot of times.</p>
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<p>Engineers will do the same thing. They read about topics related to their profession, and certainly this is related to their profession. And it’s almost a dark story of what happened here, what happened to try to perpetuate this official story, make people not even question it.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-25"><span style="color: #ff0000;">They Try to Stop the Discussion from Happening at All!</span></h3>
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<p>And as Roland has pointed out, again, they don’t even want to have the discussion! They go out of their way to try to stop the discussion from happening at all!</p>
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<p>Now, if we were just full of it and they were just putting out a wild conspiracy theory, they could easily dismiss that they could talk about it right out in the open.</p>
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<p>The fact that they’re trying to cover it up shows that they know they don’t have a leg to stand on, but they have to still defend it in some kind of a way.</p>
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<p>And what’s interesting is that there’s so many people over the years, and I’ve been doing this a long time. When I first started out, Debunkers would say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Well, you only got however many architects and engineers we had at the time, (maybe 1, 500 or so) how many architects and engineers are there in America and in the greater world, even?”</span></h3>
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<p>Right? Well, number one, the only people that are doing the work of trying to educate engineers on this topic is AE911Truth!</p>
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<p>Now, I think we do a pretty good job for the resources that we have.</p>
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<p>But, you know, we’re not the ASE. We’re not these professional organizations with the millions of dollars and manpower and resources to be able to get the materials out there. So we have to do it one presentation at a time. Videos like this is how we do outreach.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-26"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Most Engineers Aren’t Even Aware That a Third Tower Fell</span></h3>
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<p>So we have to rely on our supporters to help us, too, and send that stuff out when they can. Send it to engineers that they know. Most engineers aren’t even aware that a third tower fell on September 11!</p>
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<p>Now, even to this day, even after all of this controversy and all of this discussion, they don’t even have an opinion one way or the other about whether it was controlled demolition, because they don’t know that World Trade Center Seven exists!</p>
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<p>And to me, that is a huge failure of these professional organizations, which are supposed to be leading the way for the engineering community, educating engineers, and they don’t even talk about the worst, &#8230;</p>
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<p>Again, just put the whole issue of controlled demolition to the side for a moment. If you go with the official story, it’s the worst structural failure in modern history! A few random office players can bring down a steel frame high rise in 7 seconds. And most engineers don’t ever hear about it from the ASCE. They’re not studying it repeatedly over and over again to keep it from happening anymore. They just kind of put out a story and then let it die! Just didn’t want to talk about it anymore.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-27"><span style="color: #ff0000;">ASCE Doesn’t Want Any Discussion of WTC Building 7</span></h3>
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<p>What’s your comment on that role? On the fact that they haven’t really done a good job of telling people about Building Seven and most engineers don’t know about it?</p>
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<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> I think they don’t want to discuss it because they don’t want to discuss it!</p>
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<p>In other words, they don’t want to bring it up. They don’t want people to be aware of it because it’s a very suspicious event. You’ve got a 47 story steel frame building that collapsed into its own footprint after some office fires in 7 seconds!</p>
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<p>I mean, that’s a remarkable event! In structural engineering history it’s a one off! It wasn’t hit by planes. It had some minor debris damage, a few fires, and then it collapsed 7 hours later!</p>
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<p>So it’s not the kind of event that they want to discuss because first of all, it piques the curiosity just to begin with, once you understand the ramifications of the event. This is something that engineers should be all over! They should be all over this event! They want to understand it in minute detail.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-28"><span style="color: #ff0000;">NIST &#8211; for the First and Only Time in History a Steel-Framed High-Rise was Destroyed by Routine Fire!</span></h3>
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<p>Instead, the story that we were given by NIST was that these routine office fires for the first and only time in history, with no other significant event, caused the collapse of a high rise steel frame building. Well, we build buildings out of steel to the high rise capacity because we don’t want them to collapse when they catch fire! That’s why we do that!</p>
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<p>Now, here you have an event where the fires brought the building down in 7 seconds. Had there been anybody in the building, they, of course, would have perished. But they had evacuated the building at the time when the first two towers were hit.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:15]</strong></span></p>
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<p>And then some very suspicious events occurred. They said that there was no water to fight the fires. Well, that’s been proven to be false. There was plenty water to fight the fires. They said that they knew the building was going to come down. How did they know that? No other building in similar circumstances had ever come down. So they quote some engineer that told the fire department that the building was going to fall down in a few hours. Gee, that was some remarkable information coming from an engineer, who still is anonymous to this day! We have not found out if that person really existed or not. Who was it?</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-29"><span style="color: #ff0000;">NIST Gave a Complicated Series of Rube-Goldberg Progression of Events Explanation for WTC-7</span></h3>
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<p>How did some engineer on the scene perceive that the building was about to collapse? When the explanation that NIST gave for actually why it collapsed was a complicated series of Rube-Goldberg progression of events where some long Beams were heated, pushed a girder off of its seat at a column, the floors collapsed, the column collapsed. It caused other columns to collapse, caused more columns to collapse, and then the whole thing came down at once. That is, frankly, unbelievable!</p>
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<p>And when you look at the particular mechanics, every one of those events can be disproven and could not have happened!</p>
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<p>So that’s why they don’t want to bring it up. That’s why they don’t want to discuss it. It’s easier, and the only answer they have is to say:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Well, these guys are conspiracy theories!”</span></h3>
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<p>And we’re practicing engineers. We’re people that represent more than 50,000 years of engineering experience! And these are not people that are going to lightly throw away their reputation by signing a petition that they know is not going to be met in a friendly manner from the establishment.</p>
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<p>These are people that know that when they sign that, they’re going to be castigated. They’re going to be punished, if possible. And many of them have. And we’re not funded by anybody. There’s nobody making money on this. We rely entirely on donations from our supporters to exist. Nobody’s getting rich off of this.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-30"><span style="color: #ff0000;">University of Alaska Said the NIST Report on WTC-7 Wasn’t Possible</span></h3>
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<p>We paid the University of Alaska at Fairbanks Structural Engineering Department something like $325,000 that we had to raise from our supporters to come up with a peer reviewed report of the Building Seven report that NIST produced. Couldn’t reproduce it. Said it wasn’t possible.</p>
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<p>And the only way that the building could come down like that was to remove eight floors of columns simultaneously all throughout the building. Which is a description of what happens in controlled demolition!</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-31"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Engineers Have Been Betrayed by Our Professional Leadership</span></h3>
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<p>So, yeah, we’ve been betrayed by our professional leadership. They have their reasons for doing. So they have connections with the federal government. They have contracts, they have prestigious positions. They have a lot to answer for.</p>
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<p>And unfortunately, I don’t think we can rely on them to come forward spontaneously. They haven’t done so in 21 years.</p>
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<p>So we’re going to have to make the record and hope that at some point in the future, sooner than later, we’re going to begin to get some answers about who was influenced, how they were influenced, and that trail can lead back up to the perpetrators.</p>
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<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> That’s right. You mentioned about how our supporters funded the World Trade Center Seven study out of the University of Alaska Fairbanks. I want someday, when this is acknowledged, when this is out there in the open and get the proper prosecutions, I’m not pessimistic. I think it’s going to happen. But I want those people who donated to that project to get some kind of tax break or whatever, because if you think about it, their tax money already went towards paying for the NIST Reports, and what they got in return was a bunch of garbage!</p>
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<p>So they had to pay again just to get an accurate report on the University of Alaska Fairbanks.</p>
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<p>And that’s another thing, this is a reputable engineering school, prestigious one. And now you’ve got this report out of there that completely contradicts what NIST puts out. And these professional associations just act like:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: black;">“Oh well, whatever, it’s nothing!”</span></h3>
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<p>But that’s a huge deal! Two different reports with two different conclusions. I mean, someone should sit down and rectify why they’re coming out with these two different conclusions, but they have no interest in doing this.</p>
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<p>So we have to do the work of the government for them! And what we are doing is we’re recreating the country. We’re creating a new culture here through AE911 Truth, through the Internet. And it’s not just with this issue, but other issues as well. We are undermining the system. Nobody takes the mainstream media seriously anymore. Nobody takes the politicians seriously anymore. I don’t think anybody even respects the people in the White House, regardless of what party they’re from or out there in Congress. They’re just sort of there! They’re just sort of like we’re all kids in a school and nobody likes the principal.</p>
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<p>So we’re just all sort of doing whatever we can get away with here, as long as it’s ethical and good. But we’re basically talking about these issues and bringing it out there on the Internet, and then they try to ban us or mess with the algorithms. And I don’t know how all that specifically works, but to keep messages like this out there and it’s not going to work. People are wising up and they know that there’s problems with things like September 11.</p>
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<p>And I also like how you mentioned too, about supposedly this engineer on the street that is seeing that Building Seven is going to come down. And I mean, even BBC is predicting it, 20 minutes before it happens.</p>
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<p>But it’s an unprecedented event and everybody’s evacuated from the building. And all of this is happening on the inside of the building. According to NIST, these Beams pushing the girder off it’s seat, is happening on the inside of the building. Nobody can see it yet. They’re predicting that this is all going to come crashing down. It doesn’t make sense on its face!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[51:51]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So here we are over 20 years later Roland, we’ve got a lot of problems going on in this country. Insane division among the political parties. We got inflation has just gone crazy! It’s like $8 for a medium cup of ice cream at the Dairy Queen right now. That’s how I measure inflation.</p>
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<p>We’ve got I mean, the very first time I’ve ever been nervous about nuclear war breaking out in my entire lifetime. A lot of major issues going on, but here we are every week coming back to 9/11 Free Fall, talking about some buildings that came down back in 2001. I mean, what are we crazy or something? With all this stuff going on, why are we focusing on this still and writing books about it, not just doing the same show, but inventing new shows about it? Answer that question.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-32"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Importance of 911 Truth</span></h3>
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<p>Why do we need to keep on beating on this, even in spite of everything that is going on elsewhere in the world? Why does it all come back down to what happened to these buildings on 9/11? And how can that set us straight as a country?</p>
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<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> Why do we study history? Why is there an academic department in every university that attempts to explain what happened in the past? It’s important. Unless we understand what happened in the past, we can’t understand how we got to where we are today. If we have a faulty understanding of the past, our understanding of our present circumstances will be faulty as well.</p>
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<p>So that’s why we study history. The old saying:</p>
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<h3><span style="color: blue;">“Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.”</span></h3>
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<p>Is an old saying, because it’s true. You have to understand what happened, or you’re going to be making the same mistakes that were made in the past. Mistakes were made in the past. Mistakes are made today. How are they related? Unless we understand?</p>
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<p>Simply as professional engineers you go to school, you go to college, you go to university, they teach you subjects that are really nothing more than the compilation of all the studies and the experience of all the engineers that came before you in history. Why do they do that? Why not just start over fresh?</p>
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<p>Well, the reason why they do that is because there’s a lot of lessons that were learned there. And those lessons, a lot of them were painful, and they came out of failures. And in the effort to understand those failures, studies were made, and a greater understanding of what was happening came out of that study. And then things got better.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[54:48]</strong></span></p>
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<p>The engineers that went forward from that point didn’t make those same mistakes anymore because they were trained. They knew better. That’s the process!</p>
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<p>If we think that steel frame buildings can be brought down by fires, alone, and we go forward with that knowledge and that understanding, we’re going to be doing things wrong. We don’t think that’s true! We think it flies in the face of all the reasons why engineers built steel frame buildings out of steel. If that isn’t true, we’ve got a real problem.</p>
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<p>And unfortunately, right now, our professional organizations are turning a blind eye to this contradiction. And we can’t allow that. As painful as it might be, as difficult as it might be to understand what really happened, we’ve got to face it! If we don’t face it, there’s more pain ahead.</p>
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<h3 id="AE911Truth20230528-33"><span style="color: #ff0000;">When You Run Away and Hide Your Head in the Sand, Things Only Get Worse</span></h3>
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<p>And literally, 9/11 opened the 21st century, and it seems as if it’s a century that seems to be bound up in one catastrophe after the other. If it’s not financial, it’s political, it’s military, it’s technological. We have so many problems, we’ve got to deal with them. And we’re not going to deal with them by hiding from the truth, no matter how painful it might be, unfortunately. It would be nice if we could run away and stick our head in the sand and everything would just turn out fine. But that’s not the way things work. When you run away and hide your head in the sand, things only get worse.</p>
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<p>So that’s what we’re doing. That’s why we call it Project Due Diligence. We’re doing our due diligence. And we’re doing our best to bring that word to our professional colleagues and to the public at large. And hopefully we can come to some sort of an understanding that we have to reinvestigate this matter. It’s not a dead historical issue. It affects our future and it has affected our present.</p>
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<p><strong>Andy Steele:</strong> Well, we’re going to leave it there for now, but the book is called Engineering the 9/11 Cover-up: How the World Trade Center Evidence was Kept Secret from the World. We’ll be talking a lot about that in the next coming months and year. And of course, we’ll make that available when it’s finished and be sharing that far and wide. Roland, thank you for doing Project Due Diligence, taking up this project and of course, coming on 9/11 Free Fall today.</p>
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<p><strong>Roland Angle:</strong> It’s been my honor, Andy, to work with all of you and all the other engineers and the researchers that have collected this information and made this record, and we’re going to take it now and make a hard copy out of it so that we can use it going forward.</p>
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<h3 id="TT3-07"><span style="color: #ff0000;"> Youtube Comments</span></h3>
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<p>(Comments as of 9/12/2023 = 186)</p>
<p>@qwerty90615<br />
3 months ago<br />
Brave and ethical engineers, voicing reasonable concerns, at great personal risk.<br />
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<p>@jacobnichols4907<br />
3 months ago<br />
After 9/11 I trust no one. I was 21 on that day now I&#8217;m 42 with 2 kids 9 &amp;13. I home school and did a whole 2 week lesson on false flags.<br />
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<p>@raymondjames5035<br />
3 months ago<br />
The Hearst newspaper chain started the Spanish-American War to grow readership.<br />
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<p>@1DaTJo<br />
3 months ago<br />
Your kids are going to be such great adults!<br />
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<p>@12TwoHit12ThreeHit<br />
3 months ago<br />
Great comment, sir! I was sitting in a university Chemistry class when I got the news. I&#8217;m 43 now. One of the strangest &#8220;facts&#8221; that always stuck out to me (besides building 7 falling due to sporadic office fires) was an FBI agent finding one of the hijacker&#8217;s passports, undamaged, on the sidewalk. That, along with all the put options placed on the airlines, reeks of an inside job. I have zero faith in our Alphabet agencies now, and it&#8217;s sad I have to say that. Have a good one!<br />
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<p>@TheMountainGoat<br />
2 months ago<br />
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?<br />
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the building and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…<br />
1. Building 3 (Marriot Hotel) – 14 Survivors &#8211; It was a 22-story building – 90% of that building completely went away, all the way to ground level and the 10% of it that was still standing (about 3 floors of the stub left standing) is where these 14 people survived.<br />
2. Building 4 – 9 stories – 75% of it, also went away – all the way to ground level – Poof gone. There was virtually no rubble on this building, except for a small remnant of the building.<br />
3. Building 5 – 9 stories &#8211; Had cylindrical holes in it, 24 feet wide, that went all the way to ground level. Once again, virtually no falling debris ended up on top of this building.<br />
4. Building 6 – 8 stories &#8211; Had the middle of it scooped out, all the way to ground level as well as 13 cylindrical holes, 24 feet in diameter on the edges and close to the scooped-out centre of the building and all these holes went down to ground level. The centre hole in this building had MINIMAL RUBBLE inside it, it was virtually EMPTY!<br />
5. Building 7 – 47 stories or 4 and a half Titanic’s’ stacked on top of one another – Was frothing away the whole day until just the outer skin of the building was left and at 5:20pm SILENTLY fell into its own footprint, it left the seismic reading of just 0.6 on the Richter scale, equal to just 2 stories hitting the ground.<br />
6. The Twin Towers – 16 Survivors (“9/11 surfer” included) &#8211; 110 stories, equal to 10 Titanic’s in weight, stacked on top of one another. The survivors heard no loud explosions, no flashes of bright light, no molten steel raining on them, they did not go blind or deaf due to light flashes or explosions, they weren’t hit by falling debris &#8211; POOF they are gone into a HUGE DUST cloud. The seismic readings were that of a 20 and 16 story building hitting the ground respectively – Why was it so low?<br />
7. Bankers Trust Building – (Across the street from the WTC complex) Was heavily damaged and rebuilt, just to be completely taken apart 5 years later due some lingering aftereffects affecting the structure of the steel in the building. Show me how a building that was not hit by a plane, had no office fires, because something affects the steel in the building?<br />
Why has the 9/11 truther movement been “distracting” from all these points and why would the main talking heads, Richard Gage and AE911Truth, only be focussing on WTC 7 for the last 8 years, ignoring everything I’ve pointed out and never discuss the lack of seismic reading for WTC 7 hitting the ground? If you believe the official government narrative that it is all due to some jet fuel and office fires, then you have some serious problems in your thinking.<br />
Has the 9/11 “truther” movement forgotten about ALL 7 WTC buildings that had massive anomalies that don’t fit the NIST Report and the “9/11 truth” movement’s THEORIES regarding “controlled demolition”, squib explosives, nukes, or mini nukes?<br />
Can’t the 9/11 “truther” movement count past 3?<br />
8 x Buildings were affected, why only focus on those three for the last 14 years?<br />
Why have they not intensely investigated the observable evidence that was left at the crime scene that was ground zero?<br />
the 9/11 “truther” movement keep on asking for an “independent forensic study” of WHAT happened at the WTC complex, when such an “independent forensic study” has been done and the EVIDENCE was submitted as high up as the Supreme court of America, via a Qui-Tam case against NIST and the subcontractors who wrote the NIST Report, for SCIENCE FRAUD, way back in 2009!<br />
If this court case was heard and not illegally dismissed by the judge, the governmental subcontractors with links to advanced weaponry, who were tasked with the secured clean-up operations at ground zero and tasked with helping to write the FRAUDULENT NIST Report, these companies would have been DEPOSED back in 2009 already!<br />
14 years of theories by the “9/11 truth” movement have been regurgitated to a point of exhaustion and it is currently turning into a waste of time, as they aren’t bringing anything new to the table.<br />
Why does the 9/11 “truther” movement censor anyone who brings this up and why is the 9/11 “truther” movement keeping mum about this 2009 Qui-Tam case?<br />
Are we not searching for truth about WHAT happened to those buildings with a WTC prefix?<br />
Time for the 9/11 “truther” movement to stop focussing on just 3 buildings, when indeed there was MAJOR anomalies with 8 BUILDINGS!<br />
Why aren’t you talking about the 9/11 orphans, Buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6?<br />
Why not discuss the anomalous Banker’s Trust building, that was repaired, just to be dismantled a few years later due to the integrity of the steel that was waning? What does that?<br />
I suggest anyone wanting to investigate the 9/11 orphans, to have a look for the documentary “9/11 Alchemy – Facing Reality” and decide for yourself what the agenda of the 9/11 “truther” movement and really is. Also look for the documentary series “9/11 The Essential guide” which you can also find on this Odysee channel. &#8211; @911revisited:7</p>
<p>Antonio Garmsci<br />
3 weeks ago<br />
I became a Federal Marshal after that day!<br />
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<p>@growthandunderstanding<br />
3 weeks ago<br />
Bravo and awesome! You children are fortunate to have you as a parent!</p>
<p>@strongfoot2009<br />
3 months ago<br />
An excellent job folks: continue doing what is right.<br />
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<p>@StressMats<br />
3 months ago<br />
I was 8 years old when this happened and can remember the day, setting and reactions of the people I were around. I even remember my dad which is a clever engineer replaying the fall and telling me that it is impossible. He was inside one of the buildings earlier the same year.<br />
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<p>@garybryson1900<br />
3 months ago<br />
To keep people quiet you offer them money AND you threaten them. I&#8217;m sure that is what has happened.<br />
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<p>@747fa<br />
3 months ago<br />
I tend to think it is the fear factor that is very persuasive in regard to 9/11.<br />
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<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago<br />
Plus the Epstein blackmail machine.</p>
<p>@louislemire6691<br />
3 weeks ago<br />
My theory is that they weren&#8217;t in the loop. They did what the were told, no questions asked.</p>
<p>@garybryson1900<br />
3 weeks ago<br />
@louislemire6691 That&#8217;s probably true of some people.</p>
<p>@gregharrison3289<br />
3 months ago<br />
Everyone&#8217;s local obituaries silently speak of a horrible crime that&#8217;s been committed &amp; is still ongoing.<br />
Engineering leadership failure in part begot medical leadership failure.<br />
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<p>@irukandji2246<br />
3 months ago<br />
great to see your esteemed org still uploading videos!<br />
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<p>@EJ-74<br />
3 months ago<br />
Thanks for exposing the truth <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@-LightningRod-<br />
3 months ago<br />
We need Good LEADERS,&#8230;<br />
LEADERS like Roland Angle.<br />
Your attempt to shine light on an anomaly will illuminate much more than a simple failure of your organization&#8217;s Leadership shortcomings.<br />
I am grateful for Your efforts and the choice to share this information.<br />
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<p>@dietrichwecker942<br />
3 months ago<br />
Excellent work, thank you guys!<br />
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<p>@aprilholton1150<br />
2 months ago<br />
My heart goes out to everyone affected by this horror, which is a lot of people!! God bless you for your tenacity and efforts in getting the truth out. Some will never see it, some already know and some may wake up someday. One thing I know, God knows the truth and the ones responsible will face justice on judgement day! I wish we could see justice here in our lifetime but it is doubtful. God bless you all to overcome till the end<br />
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<p>@streetwisepioneers4470<br />
3 months ago<br />
You guys are phenomenal!<br />
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<p>@lionelfischer8240<br />
3 months ago<br />
Thank you from France. We also paid here for the liers through assurances fees. Billions of dollars stolen from so many companies&#8230;<br />
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<p>@h2opower<br />
3 months ago<br />
For me I am tired of those in high places getting away with murder and other high crimes and misdemeanors. If it were you or me behind these demolitions of the buildings we&#8217;d have a jail named after us by now. Because of these events over 1 million people died and even more have been affected by those events in a negative way. Since murder has no statute of limitations those responsible need to be brought to justice.<br />
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<p>@Frannie12<br />
3 months ago<br />
As you probably know, it didn&#8217;t start on that day. Great book (yes it&#8217;s long) called JFK and the Unspeakable by Douglass&#8230;..same patterns, a legacy within our institutions.<br />
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<p>@clinteranovic8075<br />
2 months ago<br />
There was no controlled demolition. That is a stupid idea. You know why it&#8217;s a stupid idea? Because it would be a stupid idea to do it, or even consider doing or even coming up with the idea of doing it. It&#8217;s a stupid idiotic idea that would never work, that could never be hidden or covered up, besides the fact that it would be a pointless idiotic idea to do it in the first place. Roland Angle and all these other people though don&#8217;t consider that. They think they don&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>@jonhjlundarnfred3248<br />
2 months ago (edited)<br />
​ @clinteranovic8075 Ok, then let&#8217;s consider it for a while. Let&#8217;s put ourselves in the shoes of someone or a group of individuals who would consider doing such a thing. Whether it&#8217;s a stupid idea (and hence not to be done) is proportionally related to what we estimate we are to gain from doing it, it&#8217;s overall implications, and our abilities to carry out the action. Strictly speaking whether an action is &#8220;worth&#8221; the risk depends on the outcome, and therefore indirectly our ability to control the outcome. So what might look completely idiotic from one perspective, may be very rational for us (in a cold calculated sense), it solely depends on our objectives and resources.<br />
A cascade of events in world history followed this event, and someone stood to benefit from these events. So for someone it might have been &#8220;worth&#8221; doing. In regards to the ability to cover something up, many people who believe it was a controlled demolition don&#8217;t think that the evidence is well covered, but in plein open sight. Our goal in such a case is not to cover it up completely, but to cover it up sufficiently. Today most people probably don&#8217;t think it was a controlled demolition, but again most people haven&#8217;t looked that deeply into it.<br />
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<p>@danhumphrey5755<br />
3 months ago<br />
Larry Fink, Larry Silverstein, Dick Cheney, the Bush crime family, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Rumsfeld, NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX&#8230;<br />
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<p>@thesoundsmith<br />
3 months ago<br />
A list of targets? Good job.</p>
<p>@jairoacosta2894<br />
3 months ago<br />
&#8220;The truth is the truth, even when it is too painful. If we not know the truth, to correct the error we are to repeat it..&#8221;<br />
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<p>@thesoundsmith<br />
3 months ago<br />
Well, i think THIS one is pretty safe from a repeat.</p>
<p>@martyalmberg9317<br />
3 months ago<br />
Great job! you guys are determined.<br />
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<p>@Turdfergusen382<br />
3 months ago<br />
Good luck with the new show. Thanks for the time Roland. Keep carrying the torch forward.<br />
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<p>@buckmaster7185<br />
3 months ago<br />
Here is another fact that y&#8217;all do not report about, which is both a mitigation against the official pretext and motive. Most girders were fireproofed by asbestos and the cost to remediate was prohibitive. Instead, they made $Billions from insurance and let the citizens of New York suffer with chronic, if not ultimately fatal mesothelioma.<br />
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<p>@CinemaStudies1<br />
3 months ago<br />
I&#8217;m glad Roland is at the helm now &#8230; a brilliant guy.<br />
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<p>@raymondjames5035<br />
3 months ago<br />
In Sept 2016 Lloyd&#8217;s of London filed suit against the Saudi royal family for the planes lost in 9/11. It was quickly settled so the evidence was never exposed.<br />
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<p>@davepowell7168<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
15 years &#8216;quickly&#8217;..<br />
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<p>@waynedaves5089<br />
3 months ago<br />
Yes, that&#8217;s the point. We have to investigate who said the building was coming down? Great work as always. naming names is a must<br />
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<p>@tdc8795<br />
3 months ago<br />
How many building codes changed due to the 9/11 event? Aren&#8217;t all steel framed buildings now at risk for total collapse because of fire?<br />
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<p>@thesoundsmith<br />
3 months ago<br />
If NIST were correct&#8230;<br />
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<p>@russellherdson5763<br />
1 month ago<br />
Roland is the right man for this job. Respect.</p>
<p>@ShillDozer<br />
3 months ago<br />
&#8220;We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own.&#8221;<br />
Maurice Samuel<br />
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<p>@TNG_Klingons<br />
3 months ago<br />
<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f923.png" alt="🤣" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f606.png" alt="😆" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@FreeCorps1984<br />
3 months ago<br />
Recently watched Seven and this is a great follow up. Gonna try to pass it along<br />
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<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
A discussion has started in the comments that perhaps Andy and Roland would like to give their views<br />
on.<br />
This 90 second video shows the collapse zone in wtc2 and illustrates the point in question:<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="WTC2 Collapse -- Gary Pollard (Enhanced Raw Copy from NIST)" width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ULdiD6gYZO0?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
The question is, can we really expect that the falling section of the buildings would neatly align with the standing section, so that core columns would land back on core columns, and wall panels land on wall panels?<br />
Or is the possibility that core columns and wall panels would be pushed sideways, while cross bracing structures would be loaded vertically rather than horizontally?<br />
All comments welcome</p>
<p>@PuffensPuffens<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
YES! This must be the Crime of the Century! &#8220;Pull it down&#8221; -Larry S<br />
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<p>@chineechik<br />
3 months ago<br />
One of the better videos produced<br />
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<p>@mikeklassic78<br />
3 months ago<br />
Funny I was just talking this with a coworker&#8230;.they said &#8221; oh that was a long time ago&#8221;&#8230;an folks wonder why were currently goin to hell in a hand basket!<br />
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<p>@psikeyhackr6914<br />
3 months ago<br />
I searched the NCSTAR1 report for &#8216;concrete&#8217;. It appeared more than 3,000 times though less than 4,000. I read every paragraph using concrete. The NIST never specifies the total amount of concrete in the towers though sources before 9/11 say 425,000 cubic yards for both towers.<br />
Those previous sources report 200,000 tons of steel with which the NIST agrees. So why is there agreement on the steel but not the concrete? That concrete would have to affect the collapse time if it was just mass impacting mass because of the conservation of momentum.<br />
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<p>@qwerty90615<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
The pulverization of the concrete, reportedly extreme in its totality, represents a quantity of energy consumed during the destruction. How does this compare to the officially recognized potential energy of the purely gravity-driven destruction? That potential energy is the integral of mgh. Both of these quantities it appears are easily determined within a margin of error.<br />
I pity the present engineering professors who must face inquiring young minds, and dare not speak truth.</p>
<p>@Interdiction<br />
3 months ago<br />
@qwerty90615 I have ZERO pity for anyone who does not tell the truth<br />
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<p>@qwerty90615<br />
3 months ago<br />
@Interdiction Truth absolutists tend toward self-deceit. This is an observation confirmed in many aspects of human activity. An engineering professor who did what Professor Hulsey was able to do is extremely rare. I deeply admire him.<br />
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<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
3 months ago<br />
Steel Can&#8217;t Change Its Role<br />
The steel components in a building are there to make up the support that prevents collapse, but here NIST tells us that the steel changed its role from preventing a collapse to one of abetting a collapse. NIST is crazy.<br />
NIST FAQ 31 Answer:-<br />
&#8221; Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.&#8221;<br />
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<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
2 months ago<br />
@clinteranovic8075 When your head goes upward and hits the steel column that is standing still in mid air, it will kill you. When 95 floors with its massive inertia goes upward into the upper 15 floors of much less inertia, who wins? NIST wants you to believe that the inertia from above took the inertia from below to use as its own. LOL https://youtu.be/MxE8N5IAFWg</p>
<p>@TheMountainGoat<br />
2 months ago<br />
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?<br />
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the building and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…<br />
1. Building 3 (Marriot Hotel) – 14 Survivors &#8211; It was a 22-story building – 90% of that building completely went away, all the way to ground level and the 10% of it that was still standing (about 3 floors of the stub left standing) is where these 14 people survived.<br />
2. Building 4 – 9 stories – 75% of it, also went away – all the way to ground level – Poof gone. There was virtually no rubble on this building, except for a small remnant of the building.<br />
3. Building 5 – 9 stories &#8211; Had cylindrical holes in it, 24 feet wide, that went all the way to ground level. Once again, virtually no falling debris ended up on top of this building.<br />
4. Building 6 – 8 stories &#8211; Had the middle of it scooped out, all the way to ground level as well as 13 cylindrical holes, 24 feet in diameter on the edges and close to the scooped-out centre of the building and all these holes went down to ground level. The centre hole in this building had MINIMAL RUBBLE inside it, it was virtually EMPTY!<br />
5. Building 7 – 47 stories or 4 and a half Titanic’s’ stacked on top of one another – Was frothing away the whole day until just the outer skin of the building was left and at 5:20pm SILENTLY fell into its own footprint, it left the seismic reading of just 0.6 on the Richter scale, equal to just 2 stories hitting the ground.<br />
6. The Twin Towers – 16 Survivors (“9/11 surfer” included) &#8211; 110 stories, equal to 10 Titanic’s in weight, stacked on top of one another. The survivors heard no loud explosions, no flashes of bright light, no molten steel raining on them, they did not go blind or deaf due to light flashes or explosions, they weren’t hit by falling debris &#8211; POOF they are gone into a HUGE DUST cloud. The seismic readings were that of a 20 and 16 story building hitting the ground respectively – Why was it so low?<br />
7. Bankers Trust Building – (Across the street from the WTC complex) Was heavily damaged and rebuilt, just to be completely taken apart 5 years later due some lingering aftereffects affecting the structure of the steel in the building. Show me how a building that was not hit by a plane, had no office fires, because something affects the steel in the building?<br />
Why has the 9/11 truther movement been “distracting” from all these points and why would the main talking heads, Richard Gage and AE911Truth, only be focussing on WTC 7 for the last 8 years, ignoring everything I’ve pointed out and never discuss the lack of seismic reading for WTC 7 hitting the ground? If you believe the official government narrative that it is all due to some jet fuel and office fires, then you have some serious problems in your thinking.<br />
Has the 9/11 “truther” movement forgotten about ALL 7 WTC buildings that had massive anomalies that don’t fit the NIST Report and the “9/11 truth” movement’s THEORIES regarding “controlled demolition”, squib explosives, nukes, or mini nukes?<br />
Can’t the 9/11 “truther” movement count past 3?<br />
8 x Buildings were affected, why only focus on those three for the last 14 years?<br />
Why have they not intensely investigated the observable evidence that was left at the crime scene that was ground zero?<br />
the 9/11 “truther” movement keep on asking for an “independent forensic study” of WHAT happened at the WTC complex, when such an “independent forensic study” has been done and the EVIDENCE was submitted as high up as the Supreme court of America, via a Qui-Tam case against NIST and the subcontractors who wrote the NIST Report, for SCIENCE FRAUD, way back in 2009!<br />
If this court case was heard and not illegally dismissed by the judge, the governmental subcontractors with links to advanced weaponry, who were tasked with the secured clean-up operations at ground zero and tasked with helping to write the FRAUDULENT NIST Report, these companies would have been DEPOSED back in 2009 already!<br />
14 years of theories by the “9/11 truth” movement have been regurgitated to a point of exhaustion and it is currently turning into a waste of time, as they aren’t bringing anything new to the table.<br />
Why does the 9/11 “truther” movement censor anyone who brings this up and why is the 9/11 “truther” movement keeping mum about this 2009 Qui-Tam case?<br />
Are we not searching for truth about WHAT happened to those buildings with a WTC prefix?<br />
Time for the 9/11 “truther” movement to stop focussing on just 3 buildings, when indeed there was MAJOR anomalies with 8 BUILDINGS!<br />
Why aren’t you talking about the 9/11 orphans, Buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6?<br />
Why not discuss the anomalous Banker’s Trust building, that was repaired, just to be dismantled a few years later due to the integrity of the steel that was waning? What does that?<br />
I suggest anyone wanting to investigate the 9/11 orphans, to have a look for the documentary “9/11 Alchemy – Facing Reality” and decide for yourself what the agenda of the 9/11 “truther” movement and really is. Also look for the documentary series “9/11 The Essential guide” which you can also find on this Odysee channel. &#8211; @911revisited:7</p>
<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
2 months ago<br />
@TheMountainGoat The WTC buildings closest to the twin towers, WTC 3-4-5-6, were heavily damaged and were roaring infernos, but none suffered total collapse. The Deutsche Bank building suffered more damage than building 7 did since it was closer to the south tower than building 7 was to the north tower.</p>
<p>@Blue-qr7qe<br />
3 months ago<br />
Thank you, Mr. Angle &#8211;<br />
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<p>@sladwig4094<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
47 interior columns x 4 connections per column x 110 floors = 20,000 bolted and/or welded connections.<br />
5” deep concrete floors x 110 levels high can be visualized as a solid block of concrete 45 feet tall and almost as long and wide as a football field. Somehow this mass of concrete turned into dust before it hit the ground.<br />
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<p>@organboi<br />
3 months ago<br />
True. You can see it turning ans churning into dust before hitting the ground.</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
What percentage of it turned into dust before it hot the ground?</p>
<p>@LuigiTrapanese<br />
3 months ago<br />
Can we get Corbett on this show?<br />
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<p>@LuigiTrapanese<br />
3 months ago<br />
Also Mazzucco, the author of &#8220;9 11 new pearl harbor&#8221;<br />
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<p>@Frannie12<br />
3 months ago<br />
Interesting comment about precedent. Turning point was 11/22/63 in Dallas.<br />
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<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago<br />
We have had so many. When you study the history, you see it is a string of them one after another. They just keep doing them over and over.<br />
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<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
7. 43 mins Talking about building 7 Roland says ; &#8220;I don&#8217;t think they want to discus, because they don&#8217;t wish to discuss it.&#8221; A few minutes later he said that it is the kind of event that piques the curiosity. He then says this &#8220;Is something engineers should be all over.&#8221;<br />
Will you be presenting any videos about Building 5 and Building 6 in the future?<br />
Do these partial collapses pique your curiosity?<br />
Do AE9/11Truth believe the partial collapses were caused by fires or demolition explosion?</p>
<p>@jerryplenda381<br />
3 months ago<br />
Philip Zelikow managed the 911 commission information.<br />
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<p>@mikebyrd8278<br />
2 months ago<br />
So how did your supposed explosives cause the exterior walls to be pulled inward moments before the building collapsed??<br />
How did they put explosives exactly where the Jets hit???<br />
How did the explosives survive the impact of the Jets and the fire???</p>
<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
3 months ago<br />
Kissinger turned 100 today lucky Larry turns 92 in 3 days<br />
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<p>@TNG_Klingons<br />
3 months ago<br />
I suspect the towers were wired to <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f4a5.png" alt="💥" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> well before Larry&#8217;s purchase and insurance policy.<br />
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<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
3 months ago<br />
Andy and Roland, I think that you are well justified in expecting other organisations to be open and honest, and to expect them to be prepared to answer questions of a technical nature.<br />
The cost of this is of course that AE9/11Truth also take that approach.<br />
So for example (21m30s) you Roland raise the issue of witnesses reporting explosions, and of recordings of explosions.<br />
In return may I ask you to make a compilations of the recordings so we can judge for ourselves. I have watched many without hearing any explosions, the video from the Hudson river has good sound quality, so you might start with that one.<br />
Also will you explain why the survivors in stairwell B didn&#8217;t report any explosions despite apparently being in close proximity to the one listed as registering 2.3 on the Richter scale ?<br />
Also why the vast majority of those interviewed did not report hearing any explosions, or using language &#8216;indicative of hearing&#8217; explosions?<br />
With thanks,<br />
Simon<br />
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<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
3 months ago<br />
Steel Can&#8217;t Change Its Role<br />
The steel components in a building are there to make up the support that prevents collapse, but here NIST tells us that the steel changed its role from preventing a collapse to one of abetting a collapse. NIST is crazy.<br />
NIST FAQ 31 Answer:-<br />
&#8221; Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.&#8221;<br />
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<p>@noelleleger232<br />
3 months ago<br />
The term inertia comes from the Latin word iners meaning idle, referring to the amount of resistance an object has to a change in its velocity.<br />
The INERTIA of the top 14 floors, being constructed for obvious reasons out of the thinnest steel in the tower, then collapses onto the 96 floors below that are constructed out of heavier stronger thicker steel (like a pyramid from top to bottom if you will) and the lower 96 floors would therefore have a lot more INERTIA than the top 14 floors. The idea that NIST says the small INERTIA above kept getting larger while the large INERTIA below kept getting smaller, is just laughable.<br />
NIST WTC FAQ 31 &#8221; As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.&#8221;</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
3 months ago<br />
@noelleleger232 I don&#8217;t always believe what NIST have to say, but if the falling elements of the upper floors, break apart the material at the top of the towers, releasing those to fall, then the amount of material falling will increase. Do you agree?</p>
<p>@noelleleger232<br />
3 months ago<br />
@simonthorneycroft1339 I disagree. Anything falling has to meet resistance. The forces in those collisions will be equal, hammer hits nail &amp; nail removes energy from the hammer.<br />
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<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago<br />
@simonthorneycroft1339 My favorite video of 9/11 is a short clip where you can actually see the spires of broken columns turn into dust and evaporate. It is the most amazing thing ever. Evaporating steel. Wow, I wonder how that happened. It was not glowing, just turning into dust. When a tower of dominos falls, NONE of them are destroyed.</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
3 months ago<br />
@kindGSL I am aware of the footage and the claim that steel was turned to dust.<br />
I don&#8217;t think that the thermite and high explosive model espoused by AE9/11T agrees that this happened, it seems more of claim by those who believe in the directed energy weapon model. Is that your view of it?<br />
What do you think caused the steel to turn to dust?<br />
Also what kind of dust? Steel dust?<br />
Simon</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
3 months ago<br />
@kindGSL Maybe a couple of things to consider if you think that steel core columns were turned to dust:<br />
What was supporting the core columns just prior to them collapsing and why were the structures holding them up not affected by whatever was turning the columns you could see into dust?<br />
The dust created by the collapse was analysed – what did the analysis show in terms of steel dust?<br />
Has the mechanism used to turn the steel to dust subsequently (20 years later) been used in other industries or weapons systems?<br />
If a steel beam is covered in dust, and then falls along its own axis, will it leave a trail of dust in the air where the column was previously standing?<br />
If steel dust is as dense as steel, how long would it remain in the air?</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
@kindGSL Do you have an explanation as to how the steel core columns turned to dust, and what the dust was made of?</p>
<p>@nunyabisnis1448<br />
2 months ago<br />
Bobby Mcelveen ,Geoff Campbell, what happened to those guys ?<br />
1</p>
<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
@nunyabisnis1448 I don&#8217;t know, what did happen to them?</p>
<p>@alwagner9722<br />
2 months ago<br />
​ @simonthorneycroft1339 your analogy is comparing the wtc tower to a stack of dominoes?<br />
Let&#8217;s try this; you build a scaled down replica of North tower, say 20 ft. high.<br />
With every bit of the structure scaled down precisely. Then you cut off the top 15 floors above the so called damaged area. That top portion is then raised 10 ft in the air and dropped on top of the existing, undamaged part.<br />
You really think that top section is going to crush and pulverize the rest of the building?<br />
Keep in mind, the actual collapse didn&#8217;t have the benefit of the top portion lifting up above the tower. It just sat there, somehow gave out, crushing pulverizing the tower, according to NIST, &#8220;essentially at free fall.&#8221;<br />
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<p>@simonthorneycroft1339<br />
2 months ago<br />
@alwagner9722 An interesting question.<br />
Firstly, neither the North or South Towers collapsed essentially at Freefall according to David Chandler&#8217;s calculations, they fell at 66% of freefall.<br />
Putting that aside, let us take away the big drop you describe, and try this;<br />
Imagine from your model above that you build the model up to the 87th floor, then in a slightly random pattern build up sections of the next 5 floors with material that is half the strength it should be to mimic the floors weekend by the fires.<br />
Then with the upper section of the building do the same kind of thing with the structure upside down, so that when you turn it over the two sections more or less match up.<br />
Then you lift up the top section and turn it the right way up over the bottom section.<br />
You then lower this sections until it is almost touching the bottom section, and misalign the two sections very slightly to allow for the fact that the building as heated unevenly, the steel might have expanded, shrunk, twisted or folded when softened by the heat.<br />
Would that be a fair starting point for your experiment?</p>
<p>@alwagner9722<br />
2 months ago<br />
@simonthorneycroft1339 that was kind of a gobbledygook theoretical scenario.<br />
I was implying that even if you were to pick up the top section and drop it on top of the rest of the building, you or anyone else would see the logical scenario that it would be impossible to crush/ pulverize and turn the majority of the building and almost all of its office contents into a pyroclastic flow, like that of a volcano, see? Where&#8217;s the momentum/ forces / energy coming from, since it&#8217;s just a &#8220;progressive gravitational collapse&#8221;? I&#8217;m no expert but you appear to be in denial- or your cognitive dissonance is clouding your reality.<br />
As for rate of collapse goes, I&#8217;m just going by NIST&#8217;S own words. Though I do admire Chandler&#8217;s work, as far as the 9/11 truth movement goes, especially with WTC 7.</p>
<p>@TheMountainGoat<br />
2 months ago<br />
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?<br />
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the building and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…<br />
1. Building 3 (Marriot Hotel) – 14 Survivors &#8211; It was a 22-story building – 90% of that building completely went away, all the way to ground level and the 10% of it that was still standing (about 3 floors of the stub left standing) is where these 14 people survived.<br />
2. Building 4 – 9 stories – 75% of it, also went away – all the way to ground level – Poof gone. There was virtually no rubble on this building, except for a small remnant of the building.<br />
3. Building 5 – 9 stories &#8211; Had cylindrical holes in it, 24 feet wide, that went all the way to ground level. Once again, virtually no falling debris ended up on top of this building.<br />
4. Building 6 – 8 stories &#8211; Had the middle of it scooped out, all the way to ground level as well as 13 cylindrical holes, 24 feet in diameter on the edges and close to the scooped-out centre of the building and all these holes went down to ground level. The centre hole in this building had MINIMAL RUBBLE inside it, it was virtually EMPTY!<br />
5. Building 7 – 47 stories or 4 and a half Titanic’s’ stacked on top of one another – Was frothing away the whole day until just the outer skin of the building was left and at 5:20pm SILENTLY fell into its own footprint, it left the seismic reading of just 0.6 on the Richter scale, equal to just 2 stories hitting the ground.<br />
6. The Twin Towers – 16 Survivors (“9/11 surfer” included) &#8211; 110 stories, equal to 10 Titanic’s in weight, stacked on top of one another. The survivors heard no loud explosions, no flashes of bright light, no molten steel raining on them, they did not go blind or deaf due to light flashes or explosions, they weren’t hit by falling debris &#8211; POOF they are gone into a HUGE DUST cloud. The seismic readings were that of a 20 and 16 story building hitting the ground respectively – Why was it so low?<br />
7. Bankers Trust Building – (Across the street from the WTC complex) Was heavily damaged and rebuilt, just to be completely taken apart 5 years later due some lingering aftereffects affecting the structure of the steel in the building. Show me how a building that was not hit by a plane, had no office fires, because something affects the steel in the building?<br />
Why has the 9/11 truther movement been “distracting” from all these points and why would the main talking heads, Richard Gage and AE911Truth, only be focussing on WTC 7 for the last 8 years, ignoring everything I’ve pointed out and never discuss the lack of seismic reading for WTC 7 hitting the ground? If you believe the official government narrative that it is all due to some jet fuel and office fires, then you have some serious problems in your thinking.<br />
Has the 9/11 “truther” movement forgotten about ALL 7 WTC buildings that had massive anomalies that don’t fit the NIST Report and the “9/11 truth” movement’s THEORIES regarding “controlled demolition”, squib explosives, nukes, or mini nukes?<br />
Can’t the 9/11 “truther” movement count past 3?<br />
8 x Buildings were affected, why only focus on those three for the last 14 years?<br />
Why have they not intensely investigated the observable evidence that was left at the crime scene that was ground zero?<br />
the 9/11 “truther” movement keep on asking for an “independent forensic study” of WHAT happened at the WTC complex, when such an “independent forensic study” has been done and the EVIDENCE was submitted as high up as the Supreme court of America, via a Qui-Tam case against NIST and the subcontractors who wrote the NIST Report, for SCIENCE FRAUD, way back in 2009!<br />
If this court case was heard and not illegally dismissed by the judge, the governmental subcontractors with links to advanced weaponry, who were tasked with the secured clean-up operations at ground zero and tasked with helping to write the FRAUDULENT NIST Report, these companies would have been DEPOSED back in 2009 already!<br />
14 years of theories by the “9/11 truth” movement have been regurgitated to a point of exhaustion and it is currently turning into a waste of time, as they aren’t bringing anything new to the table.<br />
Why does the 9/11 “truther” movement censor anyone who brings this up and why is the 9/11 “truther” movement keeping mum about this 2009 Qui-Tam case?<br />
Are we not searching for truth about WHAT happened to those buildings with a WTC prefix?<br />
Time for the 9/11 “truther” movement to stop focussing on just 3 buildings, when indeed there was MAJOR anomalies with 8 BUILDINGS!<br />
Why aren’t you talking about the 9/11 orphans, Buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6?<br />
Why not discuss the anomalous Banker’s Trust building, that was repaired, just to be dismantled a few years later due to the integrity of the steel that was waning? What does that?<br />
I suggest anyone wanting to investigate the 9/11 orphans, to have a look for the documentary “9/11 Alchemy – Facing Reality” and decide for yourself what the agenda of the 9/11 “truther” movement and really is. Also look for the documentary series “9/11 The Essential guide” which you can also find on this Odysee channel. &#8211; @911revisited:7 &#8211; You are being fooled.</p>
<p>@russellhodin1382<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
@simonthorneycroft1339 , obviously the domino tower is not falling at anything resembling a free-fall rate, in contrast to Buildings 1, 2 and 7, which did so for a portion of their collapse, a physical impossibility and at odds with your physics explanation</p>
<p>@davidmudry5622<br />
2 weeks ago<br />
NIST Oxymoron?<br />
As documented in Section 6.14.4 of NIST NCSTAR 1, these collapse times show&#8230;<br />
&#8221;Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance the building section above came down essentially in free fall*, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further *increasing the demand on the floors below.&#8221;<br />
Essentially in free fall = LESS DEMAND on the floors below. https://youtu.be/pwx12kwgOAM?t=338</p>
<p>@ClaudioMarty911<br />
3 months ago<br />
Thank you.<br />
4</p>
<p>@DorksterJr<br />
3 months ago<br />
C&#8217;mon, Morty, that was decades ago now. We&#8217;re on the same team. What&#8217;s good for the Rick is good for the Morty. Trust in the trickle.</p>
<p>@redroseofsummer2979<br />
3 months ago<br />
What date is the book being released ?</p>
<p>@jamesdunn1434<br />
3 months ago<br />
The Yinon Plan of 1982 , The Greater Israel Project and PNAC<br />
6</p>
<p>@johnbelden-br3hw<br />
3 months ago<br />
I saw Michael c Ruppert speak in grass valley ca and he was talking about Paul wellstones plane being brought down<br />
2</p>
<p>@miket8250<br />
3 months ago<br />
Covered? You mean committed. Where did the Gold go?<br />
3</p>
<p>@rezakarampour6286<br />
3 months ago<br />
&#8216; Solving 9-11 By Christopher Bollyn . &#8216;<br />
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<p>@chadthunderjock6520<br />
3 months ago<br />
Everyone should read that book. To my knowledge no one in the 911 truth movement has never acknowledged that book.<br />
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<p>@DWayne-fk9rp<br />
3 months ago<br />
Here&#8217;s a link to his audiobook, Solving 911.<br />
<iframe loading="lazy" title="Christopher Bollyn   Solving 9 11 Audiobook   Narrated by Christopher Bollyn" width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/C9ES7NvJskQ?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe><br />
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<p>@mtm4a<br />
3 months ago<br />
@rezakarampour6286 &#8211; There&#8217;s a handful of people who consistently and endlessly provide this bare title and name of author under most AE911Truth uploads, but they express no opinion themselves. Are they being paid to publicise a book&#8230; or is it perhaps a video?<br />
We already know that Christopher Bollyn provides helpful insight into the 9/11 story &#8211; his talks have been available on YouTube for years.<br />
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<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
@chadthunderjock6520 I do. I have seen him at 9/11 events in person. What there is is a competition about who is at fault for 9/11. Some people want to say Israel was involved and others refuse to accept that idea. I am one who thinks nukes were used, so pretty much no one is on my side of the argument.<br />
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<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago<br />
@mtm4a You already know about him, but for any new-by just trying to figure it out Christopher Bollyn is the absolutely BEST source to understand what happened, and not one you will ever find if no one tells you to look for him specifically.<br />
2</p>
<p>@christopheklinger3217<br />
3 months ago<br />
I saw recently on Youtube people from PNAC (Project for aNew American Century) having a video. Comments were not allowed.<br />
1</p>
<p>@FreeCorps1984<br />
3 months ago<br />
Lotta misinformation knocked down by Roland. Don&#8217;t need to have an engineering degree to understand that part of this. The movie Seven helps too<br />
1</p>
<p>@K4ReeL187<br />
3 months ago<br />
52:19 why focus on events from 20 years ago&#8230;<br />
people need to know the truth so they can proactively stop these type of events re-occurring<br />
4</p>
<p>@jophoenix3919<br />
2 months ago<br />
I AM ILL-EDUCATED IN THE ENGINEERING FIELD, BUT THAT SAID I CAN FELLOW ENGINEERS FACRS, I WATCHED THE BUILDING COLLAPSE AND KNEW IT LIKE A PALNED DEMOLITION. THE FACTS DO NOT COME CLOSE TO ADDING UP AS TO WHY THE EVIDENCE WAS NOT PRESERVED BUT SHIPPED TO CHINA?</p>
<p>@bettymobley763<br />
3 months ago<br />
Andy’s <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f634.png" alt="😴" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@CreigerMcGreger<br />
3 months ago<br />
Is the evidence there for people to see the thruth? Yes. Is the evidence coming from mostly engineers, firefighters and pilots? Yes.<br />
So why don&#8217;t people believe? Because they don&#8217;t want to.<br />
You have to deal with that first before you can show them the facts.<br />
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<p>3 replies</p>
<p>@kindGSL<br />
3 months ago<br />
It is the same reason why people don&#8217;t want to believe people who claim to be sexually abused. Dealing with it is just too difficult.<br />
1</p>
<p>@CreigerMcGreger<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
@kindGSL good point. I think it&#8217;s important to realize. What we believe doesn&#8217;t always line up with the facts. But it&#8217;s what we can emotionally handle.</p>
<p>@nunyabisnis1448<br />
2 months ago<br />
cognitive dissonance , and its easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they&#8217;ve been fooled!</p>
<p>@JohnDoe-rp3mx<br />
10 days ago<br />
Please enhance your sound</p>
<p>@bubblegumKUSH<br />
3 months ago<br />
#ednacintron</p>
<p>@CreigerMcGreger<br />
3 months ago<br />
Can we please. Please. Get a new interviewer.? Andy steel might be a nice guy but he is not helping your cause by being the face of the 9/11 truth movement.<br />
1</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@CreigerMcGreger<br />
3 months ago<br />
It doesn&#8217;t matter how many facts you have. I can&#8217;t recommend these videos to anyone.</p>
<p>@geminijune5173<br />
2 months ago<br />
Remember the dancing Israelis</p>
<p>1 reply</p>
<p>@clinteranovic8075<br />
2 months ago<br />
Remember the dancing Palestinians&#8230;<br />
1</p>
<p>@raymondjames5035<br />
3 months ago<br />
The demolition crew was getting paid at the accounting office when the missile hit the Pentagon&#8230;. Lose ends.<br />
4</p>
<p>2 replies</p>
<p>@mancuniancandidatem<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
I think the &#8220;art students&#8221; who were living in the towers layed the explosives. They are even photographed in the towers in a room full of boxes that are labeled as fuse switches, of a type that are used in demolition.</p>
<p>Antonio Garmsci<br />
3 weeks ago<br />
You guys have NO idea how to organize!!!!</p>
<p>@TheMountainGoat<br />
2 months ago<br />
WHAT exactly happened to ALL 7 buildings with a WTC prefix on Sept 11, 2001?<br />
The following points need to be made regarding what exactly happened to the building and the observable evidence at ground zero, that the “9/11 truth movement” never touch on…<br />
1. Building 3 (Marriot Hotel) – 14 Survivors &#8211; It was a 22-story building – 90% of that building completely went away, all the way to ground level and the 10% of it that was still standing (about 3 floors of the stub left standing) is where these 14 people survived.<br />
2. Building 4 – 9 stories – 75% of it, also went away – all the way to ground level – Poof gone. There was virtually no rubble on this building, except for a small remnant of the building.<br />
3. Building 5 – 9 stories &#8211; Had cylindrical holes in it, 24 feet wide, that went all the way to ground level. Once again, virtually no falling debris ended up on top of this building.<br />
4. Building 6 – 8 stories &#8211; Had the middle of it scooped out, all the way to ground level as well as 13 cylindrical holes, 24 feet in diameter on the edges and close to the scooped-out centre of the building and all these holes went down to ground level. The centre hole in this building had MINIMAL RUBBLE inside it, it was virtually EMPTY!<br />
5. Building 7 – 47 stories or 4 and a half Titanic’s’ stacked on top of one another – Was frothing away the whole day until just the outer skin of the building was left and at 5:20pm SILENTLY fell into its own footprint, it left the seismic reading of just 0.6 on the Richter scale, equal to just 2 stories hitting the ground.<br />
6. The Twin Towers – 16 Survivors (“9/11 surfer” included) &#8211; 110 stories, equal to 10 Titanic’s in weight, stacked on top of one another. The survivors heard no loud explosions, no flashes of bright light, no molten steel raining on them, they did not go blind or deaf due to light flashes or explosions, they weren’t hit by falling debris &#8211; POOF they are gone into a HUGE DUST cloud. The seismic readings were that of a 20 and 16 story building hitting the ground respectively – Why was it so low?<br />
7. Bankers Trust Building – (Across the street from the WTC complex) Was heavily damaged and rebuilt, just to be completely taken apart 5 years later due some lingering aftereffects affecting the structure of the steel in the building. Show me how a building that was not hit by a plane, had no office fires, because something affects the steel in the building?<br />
Why has the 9/11 truther movement been “distracting” from all these points and why would the main talking heads, Richard Gage and AE911Truth, only be focussing on WTC 7 for the last 8 years, ignoring everything I’ve pointed out and never discuss the lack of seismic reading for WTC 7 hitting the ground? If you believe the official government narrative that it is all due to some jet fuel and office fires, then you have some serious problems in your thinking.<br />
Has the 9/11 “truther” movement forgotten about ALL 7 WTC buildings that had massive anomalies that don’t fit the NIST Report and the “9/11 truth” movement’s THEORIES regarding “controlled demolition”, squib explosives, nukes, or mini nukes?<br />
Can’t the 9/11 “truther” movement count past 3?<br />
8 x Buildings were affected, why only focus on those three for the last 14 years?<br />
Why have they not intensely investigated the observable evidence that was left at the crime scene that was ground zero?<br />
the 9/11 “truther” movement keep on asking for an “independent forensic study” of WHAT happened at the WTC complex, when such an “independent forensic study” has been done and the EVIDENCE was submitted as high up as the Supreme court of America, via a Qui-Tam case against NIST and the subcontractors who wrote the NIST Report, for SCIENCE FRAUD, way back in 2009!<br />
If this court case was heard and not illegally dismissed by the judge, the governmental subcontractors with links to advanced weaponry, who were tasked with the secured clean-up operations at ground zero and tasked with helping to write the FRAUDULENT NIST Report, these companies would have been DEPOSED back in 2009 already!<br />
14 years of theories by the “9/11 truth” movement have been regurgitated to a point of exhaustion and it is currently turning into a waste of time, as they aren’t bringing anything new to the table.<br />
Why does the 9/11 “truther” movement censor anyone who brings this up and why is the 9/11 “truther” movement keeping mum about this 2009 Qui-Tam case?<br />
Are we not searching for truth about WHAT happened to those buildings with a WTC prefix?<br />
Time for the 9/11 “truther” movement to stop focussing on just 3 buildings, when indeed there was MAJOR anomalies with 8 BUILDINGS!<br />
Why aren’t you talking about the 9/11 orphans, Buildings 3, 4, 5 and 6?<br />
Why not discuss the anomalous Banker’s Trust building, that was repaired, just to be dismantled a few years later due to the integrity of the steel that was waning? What does that?<br />
I suggest anyone wanting to investigate the 9/11 orphans, to have a look for the documentary “9/11 Alchemy – Facing Reality” and decide for yourself what the agenda of the 9/11 “truther” movement and really is. Also look for the documentary series “9/11 The Essential guide” which you can also find on this Odysee channel. &#8211; @911revisited:7</p>
<p>@coolk3dat754<br />
3 months ago (edited)<br />
Direct energy of some sort<br />
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<p>@organboi<br />
3 months ago<br />
Agreed. This is no normal demolition. Nor thermite. Why was &#8220;smoke&#8221; pouring out of Building 7 on one entire side from top to bottom well before it demolished.</p>
<p>@mariol8735<br />
3 months ago<br />
#911TruthNow <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /> <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f44d.png" alt="👍" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><br />
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<p>@mean7429<br />
3 months ago<br />
Thank you.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[Devon Stack, aka Black Pilled, gives a blow by blow series of video clips of the false flag attack on the World Trade Center on 9/11, 2001, by the State, aka, Israel, aka Orgjew.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">—<strong> KATANA</strong>]</span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Manhattan on 911 in Real-Time<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">Oct 5, 2018</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Every shot and sound bite is synced up to the time that they happened. Nothing has been edited for dramatic effect (I left out footage I couldn&#8217;t match up exactly). I wanted to make this video so that people that may have been too young to know what it was like would get a feel for what happened that day. I honestly had no idea that so many people jumped from the burning buildings until I went through the hours of footage. I know it&#8217;s long, but I hope you watch it all the way through to the end.<br />
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I just want to put a note here that some people have asked why I didn&#8217;t include the &#8220;dancing Israelis&#8221; / Urban Moving Systems etc. &#8211; I didn&#8217;t have footage of this being reported during the time frame I&#8217;m covering here that I could sync up and it&#8217;s not really the point of this video to go into who was behind 9/11 so much as it is to recreate the experience of that day the way it was seen and broadcast at the moment the events were happening. I definitely encourage you to take a look at other videos that cover this, there are several well sourced videos out there (if you sift through all the disinfo). There are many people that have been studying this event far longer than I have, which is why I didn&#8217;t want to add to the noise. I also encourage you to research the engineering studies that have discredited NIST&#8217;s disgusting cover-up of the &#8220;collapse&#8221; of the buildings.</p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">TRANSCRIPT</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[00:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Rumfeld:</strong> According to some estimates we cannot track 2.3 trillion dollars in transactions.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> It began as 16 singles on a cruise ship headed for Aruba. But only one couple remains at the end.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Anthology once again is called The Long Road to Freedom.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Wonderful.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Up next a new look at billionaire Howard Hughes.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> And the 90</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> You don’t have a defined idea of who the enemy is?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Really feel that way?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> Taking charge of my life</p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[New York City]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:46:40]</strong> <strong>[First plane strikes World Trade Center Tower]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Holy shit! Holy shit!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:47:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> The World Trade Center is on fire! The whole outside of the building is <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Send every available ambulance, everything you’ve got!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> The World Trade Center now!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Ten four.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:49:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> It looks like it was intentional <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> could be a terrorist attack</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Roll every ambulance you have got!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:49:36]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> This just in. You were looking at obviously a very disturbing live shot there. That is the World Trade Center, and we have unconfirmed reports this morning that a plane has crashed into one of the towers of the World Trade Center. The CNN Center right now is just beginning to work on this story.</p>
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<p>Obviously calling our sources and trying to figure out exactly what happened. But clearly, something relatively devastating happening this morning there, in the south end of the island of Manhattan. That is, once again, a picture of one of the towers of the World Trade Center.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:50:09]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:50:43]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Division One, ten four, that’s confirmed. We have fire on several floors. The upper floors of the World Trade Center.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:51:05]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> We want to tell you what we know, as we know it. We just got a report in that there has been some sort of explosion at the World Trade Center in New York City. One report said that, and we can’t confirm any of this that a plane may have hit one of the two towers of the World Trade Center, but again you are seeing live pictures here. We have no further details than that.</p>
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<p>We don’t know anything about what they have concluded happened there this morning. But we’re going to find out. And, of course, make sure that everybody knows on the air.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> These are, of course, the two twin Trade Center buildings that are down at the foot of Manhattan, that they really are the beacons of New York. It was there that there was the explosion a couple of years ago, brought about by terrorists.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:52:14]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> It’s 8:52 here in New York. I’m Briant Gumbel. We understand that there has been a plane crash on the southern tip of Manhattan. You’re looking at the World Trade Center. We understand that a plane has crashed into the World Trade Center.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:52:29]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> We do have some breaking news that we want to bring you. We’re going to go to a picture, a live picture from New York City. Apparently a plane has crashed into the World Trade Center New York! 08:52 with limited information, at this point, we don’t know about injuries in the building, or of people on the ground. But obviously.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> This has being a major disaster here. Look at that!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Remember there’s two World Trade Centers. What we’re seeing there is the apparent impact of the plane he would look to be on the upper ten, or so, stories of this I believe it’s 110 storey building of the south. It looks like the South of the two towers there in the Wall Street area of New York City. It’s incredible pictures right there.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:53:08]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> All units responding <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> 8087 <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> at West Street <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Do we have any report on a fire condition yet from on scene personnel? One report <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:53:35]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> As Matt just mentioned we have a breaking news story to tell you about. Apparently a plane has just crashed into the World Trade Center here in New York City. It happened just a few moments ago, apparently. We have very little information available, at this point, in time. But on the phone we do have Jennifer Oversteen who apparently witnessed this event. Jennifer, can you hear me?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> Hello?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Hi, Jennifer.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> Hi Katie.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Hi can you please tell me what you saw, and give me any information about what’s going on there?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> Yes. I have to tell, it’s quite terrifying! I’m in shock right now! I came out of the subway at Bowling Green. I was heading to work in Battery Park at the Ritz Carlton Hotel. And I come out and it’s I thought I heard a boom, looked up and there was a big ball of fire.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:54:21]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> The World Trade Center.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> Can you tell us what kind of an airplane is it?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> It had to be a 737 that hit the World Trade Center. It was a big, big plane.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> Okay. And what do you see at this point? xx1n oh smoke and screaming and, I mean screaming engines and all the fire engines, police department are all travelling down that way. Oh my god, almighty! The black smoke all over the place! There’s got to be somebody killed in there! The poor people who went to work!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:54:50]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> And we’re getting reports of a plane crash in the World Trade Center in New York! You can see the pictures there. It’s one of New York’s tallest buildings. That’s all the information we know at the moment. But as you can see it is a considerable collision. And there is a large fire. That’s all the information we have at the moment. But we’ll be back with more details in just a short while at the top of the hour.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:55:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> You can see what else that is going on there. You can imagine the entire building, all of the World Trade Center being evacuated immediately <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> area around there, so, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:55:35]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> It was not a bomb. We understand a plane, an actual airplane crashed into the World Trade Center. Tower number one, building number one. An eerie shot there of the Empire Sate Building to your right, and the World Trade Center with the black smoke billowing out of the top stories of the World Trade Center tower number one.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:55:56]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Unable as this point to see any pieces of the plane or anything, &#8230;.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:56:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Our camera into the top of the World Trade Center and we can see that there appears to be some fairly significant damage, &#8230;.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> There’s got to be at least 15 floors that were hit by the plane!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:56:15]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Ah Tony, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:56:15]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> In a few seconds it was “<em>Boom!</em>” <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> the World Trade Center, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:56:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Ww1f the World Trade Center. The building has been damaged by this collision. Unbelievable scene folks! I’m sure it’s bringing back memories as well, you know, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:57:18]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> By 8087 transmitted by 8087 at number one World Trade Center, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:57:28]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> You how close we were just to being killed? I mean, part of that fuselage just could of come this way!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:57:40]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Above tower one, we’re trying to <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> information folks. This just happened. Again as Michael just mentioned CNN is quoting a witness who says that he, or she, saw a twin-engine plane flying right into the Trade Center.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:58:08]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> A fucking plane, or something, hit the World Trade Center!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> I’m sorry, do you know?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> at the World Trade Center and it’s not good! Mike and I am here, yeah, we were both standing here we are looking right at it. Unfucking believable! Did you try to call? Mike! Mike! There’s debris falling down from the <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span>! See it? See it falling?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:58:31]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> And I saw the debris. I saw I thought I saw explosion and debris. The fiery debris was coming right down in front of our window. I was afraid that part of it was going to come into our actual hotel room. There are people trapped up there.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> To get information. We are efforting information. We’re trying to reach witnesses who may be there live at the scene and able to give us a first-hand account. Witnesses we do understand from the Associated Press reported hearing a huge explosion!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[08:59:25]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> On her way. Talk to her by cellphone. Unfortunately, the cellphone got disconnected.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> We’re just saying that we’re now getting reports from The Associated Press that witnesses reported hearing, seeing that huge explosion, heavy smoke, as you see there billowing from the top.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:01:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Oh shit! Somebody falling!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Oh my god! Somebody just fell!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:01:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Mike! Get away from tower!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:01:50]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Oh my god! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[screaming as person seen falling from tower]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> My god!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:01:59]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> That was a person!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:02:04]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> , &#8230; At the World Trade Center bombing happened in so many years ago, but everybody clearly remembers. How about flight rules?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:02:04]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Oh no! There’s a person Tammy. Oh my god!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:02:32]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Oh my god!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:02:36]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Oh! Oh!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> Oh my god! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[people falling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:02:36]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Definitely affected by this crash. Black smoke continuing to, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:02:56]</strong> <strong>[second plane approaching south tower]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:03:00]</strong> <strong>[second plane hits south tower — massive fire ball]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:03:09]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> This morning we’ve got an explosion inside the, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> You’ve got people running up the street. I’ll tell you what’s going on.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Put things on pause there for just a moment.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Another building just exploded <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> the whole <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Okay.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> People are running up the street.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:03:36]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> green aircraft that hit the second tower, &#8230;</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> , &#8230; Another plane hit the second tower Jay.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:03:58]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Joe, yes just moments ago as, you know, another vehicle, some kind of an aircraft crashed into the World Trade Center. This is no accident. This is no bomb on the inside. This is, as you put it, a terrorist attack. There’s no two ways about it.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:04:45]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> , &#8230; One. Be advised we have a report of a second plane that crashed into the second tower about two thirds the way up, &#8230; Recommends you transmit along <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> as well.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Ten four, &#8230; Proceed with xxm3m ten four.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:05:31]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> From everything I can see it was the same tower that was hit the first time, right?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> No. It’s the second tower!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> It’s the other tower?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> It is the other tower that was hit.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> My mistake.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> They targeted, &#8230; From your, from what I’m seeing on the television, from your view, they are, see they, the two towers are in, one is in front of the other one. But it was definitely the second tower that was hit.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:05:59]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> The people would be just sitting down for a day’s work in those building.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> I did not see the plane go in, but it is horrendous damage!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:06:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Oh my god!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:08:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Thousands of people gathered where I am here at City Hall Park, in front of City Hall just watching what’s going on.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:08:53]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> We’ve been watching live coverage from our affiliate in New York City, WNYW New York, of this unimaginably horrible situation! Now apparently a terrorist attack against both of the World Trade Center Twin Towers in Wall Street area of New York City.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:09:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Shall I answer this, &#8230;.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Two explosions however. There was the first explosion that was louder and been a second explosion and but I did not, I could not see that. And when I looked up I saw debris falling and the fire, as I said a very large fire.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 3 (female):</strong> Well, of course, this is, as we’ve said, completely shocking video! And a shocking turn of events. And we’ve been talking here that the first incident, one might surmise, that it was some kind of accident. And then to have a second, what appeared to be 727 <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span>, of course, the question of terrorist activity has to surface. And the question of whether this was an intentional terrorist act?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:10:12]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Oh, shit! That is unbelievable! Anybody know what kind of plane it was?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:10:31]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Every unit coming to this scene be arriving on West Street, or Liberty Street. We have ambulances, &#8230; We have debris falling from the buildings. They have to stop short of the building, north of south.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:11:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> In the meantime I could tell you that flames are shooting out of both towers now! The heaviest being on the South Tower, the northeast corner of the South Tower, of the World Trade Center. But there’s a considerable blaze going on in the North Tower, as well.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:12:04]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> We are as close as we can to it. They will not allow us directly over it. They have banned us from the area. Police are asking that we stay back so they can do what they need to do. The initial guess out of the different air towers is that it was a 727, or 737. It may even have possibly been two planes. We are not sure.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:12:25]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Both planes were using the trade center as a target! They weren’t in trouble. They weren’t in distress. They weren’t falling from the sky. They aimed for it! And they did a very good job! The trade center is torn open. There’s a hole in the south side of the Trade Center. Torn open from the impact of the plane, which fell into the street below.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:12:57]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Because obviously, because of the nature of this with two incidents, there is the potential that this is a double act of terrorism. And they are worried about other targets.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> And we could hear it very low, and walking down the street a couple of us looked at each other thinking, “<em>what’s happening?</em>”. Then, it appeared drastically on its side through the buildings and then went into the upper floors of the World Trade Center Tower.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:13:30]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Okay, what we can tell you right now from up here in chopper for. We cannot get any closer than about five miles to the scene, because we need to keep this far back. But you can see the black smoke as far as we are away. We zoom in here for you. First we saw the smoke with one tower, then we witnessed an explosion on the other tower.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:13:53]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> From the air, so I can’t see anything. Are we gonna do a break? Do you want me to do a pause or just take visuals?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:13:59]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> You may have heard it already this morning, regarded as a prime target for this particular act of terrorism. As, you know, there was terrorism at the World Trade Center before 1993. Where there was a huge bombing attack on the Trade Centers. These are the two at the southwestern corner of the island, &#8230;.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> Yes I understand. How long do you want me to talk?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Prime pieces of real estate of interest to anyone who wishes to hit either New York City, or the United States in a very, very visible and vulnerable way.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:14:30]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> The American Embassy bombers were sentenced here. And one is due still to be sentenced this week, that there could be some kind of revenge involvement, of course, because of this 1993 attack.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> Of course, at this stage it is speculation as to who, or what might be behind this attack.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:14:56]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Good morning. You’re looking at live pictures of the World Trade Center Tower One from Manhattan lower district. As you can see we have a very serious fire in the World Trade Center.</p>
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<p>What we understand, the information is still early in coming. But what we understand is that two separate planes have hit Tower One, which is the tower that you’re seeing on your picture right now. As you can see there are flames. There is a massive fire here at this Tower One of the World Trade Center. It’s in the upper portion of the building probably the <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:01]</strong></span> upper quarter of the tower.</p>
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<p>Now, of course, the problem was finding something like this is that it is, you can’t do an external attack. Firefighters are going to have to go on the inside of this building to actually fight this particular fire. They’re gonna have to be using things like high-rise packs, and standpipe packs. They’re going to be setting up a command center here. And they’ll be using a cascade system to refill, &#8230;.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:15:47]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Right now they are trying to determine whether, in fact, it was deliberate. They have no information they can share at the moment. And I get the sense that they’re in the same mode that we are. Simply their mouths are agape trying to figure out what’s going on!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Jim. Let me interrupt for just one second.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Sure.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> I’m looking at a report that the FBI is investigating reports of a plane hijacking! Did you have any news of that?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> No, we don’t.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> No confirmation of that what so ever?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> We have no confirmation.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Is anybody in there discussing that?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> No. The only a discussion that’s been going on here Briant is that the World Trade Center has obvious symbolic value. It’s been a target before of terrorism. And frankly it would not surprise the FBI, or anyone in national security that was a target again.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Sometimes the obvious leads you to it to a conclusion. We’re looking at two crashes 18 minutes apart go into an obvious target a building that has never been hit with a plane before on a clear day. What are the intelligence people there say about that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:16:47]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> We want to also report that remind people that the World Trade Center bombing that took place on February 26, back in 1993, the product of a terrorist attack, the result of a terrorist attack that killed six people and injured more than a thousand. Of course, that happened on a Friday afternoon. I think Matt, you and Al were working that day.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> We were.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> I know I was at home in Virginia watching it in disbelief! And now it feels a bit like deja vu! But, of course, this is so much more bizarre!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Yeah no question. And you keep in mind that that killed six people, injured a thousand, and the explosion happened in a garage in the basement. This was a direct hit on the mid section, or upper section of the tower, so the potential for injuries and death much larger. Of course, also some people on the planes!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Yeah, exactly! If there were hijacked and they were on route to a different destiny.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> Right.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Of course, this continues. This story continues to unfold.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:17:40]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Ten four. They are on their way. Standby. Two World Trade Center. Respond to West Street and Liberty. Responding to two World Trade Center. Respond to West Street and Liberty <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> at that location.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Four guys.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> We are stuck in <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> we can’t get up to 31st and Madison.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Turning to the World Trade Center. We are down there.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 3 (male):</strong> You need the company’s identification that are coming to the World Trade Center. Just read them down</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 4 (male):</strong> Engine two one one, ladder one one, engine two two, engine five three, engine four oh, engine three, battalion one oh, battalion one, two, ladder one six, ladder two, ladder one three, engine two two one, engine two, three, engine two oh nine, engine two one, two, engine two seven nine, engine two, three oh, engine two two nine, engine two, three five, engine two two oh, engine two one six, engine two one seven, engine two, three eight, engine two one four, ladder twelve, ladder one one eight, ladder seven, ladder two four, highrise one, <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span>, engine seven four, engine seven six, engine four seven, engine five eight, engine nine one, ladder two two, ladder two five, ladder three five, four trucks and ladder two one.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Okay. Thank you Manhattan.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 4 (male):</strong> Ten four.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:19:49]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> Manhattan calling the mobile command vehicle <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> Manhattan calling the mobile command vehicle.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:19:49]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> You are responding to Two World Trade Center. Bring all your <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> on the building with you, &#8230;.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:20:13]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> We are showing you live pictures of the World Trade Center. As you can see they are on fire, both towers. On the left is Tower One. The tower on your right is Tower Two. We understand that two separate planes have <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:00]</strong></span> hit the World Trade Centers. We are not sure if they. If there was some kind of technical malfunction.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:20:31]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Clip]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> What happens is there is a particular counter terrorism cell, within the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that goes into an emergency basis, at this point, they’re investigating all aspects of air traffic in the area, all intelligence that as they sift through it, may have given them some indication that something was happening. At this point, though there were no warning, they say.</p>
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<p>This morning as they go back through this information they may comb through it and find some clue. But, at this point, they believe there was no warning.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> For those of you who are not in the World Trade Center and watching this down in lower Manhattan, please turn off your water! Do not use any water you do not need! They will need all the water pressure they can possibly garner, at this point. This is a tough place to battle, obviously.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> I think I heard it.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> They think it’s to <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> from what we can tell. They are talking about hijacks.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> What their primary concern right now is protecting the American public in the New York area right now against any possible further attacks by the air! They have no indications there will be. But there is some concern that since this appeared to be such a highly coordinated attack, that there may be other terrorist attacks that could be planned, either in New York, or elsewhere.</p>
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<p>This is absolutely the worst-case scenario for the counter-terrorist planners! Because apparently, according to intelligence officials, there were no firm indications prior to this that anything like this could have happened! But in terms of scrambling the US military, it would be for protection for the time being, and not necessarily even thinking right now about any kind of retaliation.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Dispatch! Urgent! People trapped on World Trade on the eight oh floor. Three world trade, that’s the 101 for the 102 floor. Manhattan received?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> That’s a ten four. Received and acknowledged. Ten four. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Division one one coming in.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Division one.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Yeah, do you have a message to field comm?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> That’s ten four. I was going to report people trapped, number five World Trade Center on the eight oh floor. Number three World Trade Center trapped on one oh two, and one oh one floor. This is <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> case.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> One oh one ten four. Five World Trade Center at the eight oh floor. Two World Trade Center at the one oh two and one oh one floor.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> That’s a ten four case.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Confirmation?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> Ten four.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:24:37]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> One oh one, one oh five to Manhattan.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> One oh one, one oh five, &#8230;.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> It’s one of the tallest buildings in the world! Both of these buildings are. And, of course, what we have here is the very top portion of Tower One is on fire. You can see the sign of Tower one is also, it’s now, the fire starting to vent out to the side here. There is falling building. There’s a lot of glass in this building. There’s a lot of other fuel. As you can imagine, if a plane hits a building like this there is a lot of fuel! In both possibly in the plane, as well as the building, there is a lot, &#8230;.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Chief Barbara, have all of the units responding to Number Two World Trade Center report in front of the Number One World Financial Center, which is on the corner of West and Liberty. All units coming in to Number <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:01]</strong></span> Two World Trade Service.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> That ten four.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 3 (male):</strong> Attention all units! Responding into <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> Number Two World Trade Center you are to respond to Number One World Financial Center, West street and Liberty Street. Repeating all units going into Number Two World Trade Center for the <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> you are to respond to West Street and Liberty Street in front of Number One Financial Center. All units going into the fifth <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> World Trade Center respond to West Street and Liberty Street. All units going into fifth <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> another Two World Trade Center, you respond to West Street and Liberty street.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 4 (male):</strong> One oh one nine.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> One oh one nine?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 4 (male):</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Standby, one oh one nine, your message?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 4 (male):</strong> One oh nine one <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> One oh one nine, you go. One oh one nine, your message?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 4 (male):</strong> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> frequency.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Ten four.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 5 (male):</strong> Due to traffic we’re stuck by <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> Street, the World Trade Center.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Ten four.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:26:44]</strong></span></p>
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<p>Speaker 6 (male): Have MSU activate all their spares, bring all their spares and all their bottles <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> Number One World Trade Center.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> I’ve just spoken to top US officials with the access to latest intelligence. And they said quote:</p>
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<h3>“That this was clearly terrorist related! No question about it!”</h3>
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<p>They said that they couldn’t give any further details now. Not, because they didn’t want to share it, but, because they just don’t know yet. They’re at the earliest stages.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (female):</strong> So do they know Jamie, a plane was in fact hijacked?</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> They would not answer that. And I think that it’s, because I think that they just are getting the earliest details that and they’re afraid of putting out misinformation. But they said, you know, that it was clearly terrorist related.</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Wow! Oh my god!</p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 2 (male):</strong> It looks like the smoke is thinning a little. It looks like it is thinning a little. I can only hope that means that there are firefighters in the building, and somehow able to put some of this fire out. But it’s definitely, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:28:57]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> That’s why we’re not doing cut ins, because we can’t get a receive, a signal.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:29:10]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (female):</strong> Oh my god! Those poor people! No. It’s Melinda. Okay, I did not know that all the airports are closed in the New York area.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:29:10]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Speaker 1 (male):</strong> Given the attacks on the US embassies a couple of summers ago. But a reminder again, that as far as international terrorism is concerned, and people’s anger, and even desperation, on occasion with the United States is going to find itself manifest here on US soil. John is the, &#8230; Here’s the President now, in Florida. I wonder if everybody knows there what’s going on. We’ll listen to him. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[applause]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>[09:29:59]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>President Bush:</strong> Ladies and gentlemen, this is a difficult moment for America. I unfortunately will be going back to Washington after my remarks. Secretary <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[word unclear]</strong></span> Paige, lieutenant governor, will take the podium and discuss education. I do want to thank the folks here at the Booker Elementary School for their hospitality. Today we’ve had a national tragedy. Two airplanes have <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:02]</strong></span> crashed into the World Trade Center in an apparent terrorist attack on our country. I have spoken to the Vice President, to the governor of New York, to the director of the FBI. And have ordered that the full resources of the federal government go to help the victims and their families. And to conduct a full-scale investigation to hunt down, and to find those folks who committed this act!</p>
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<p>Terrorism against our nation will not stand! And now if you join me in a moment of silence.</p>
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<p>May God bless the victims, their families, and America.</p>
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<p>Thank you very much. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[applause]</strong></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/07/09/911-the-jews-had-me-fooled-a-jewish-engineered-pearl-harbor/" rel="bookmark">911 – The Jews Had Me Fooled: A Jewish Engineered Pearl Harbor</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/09/11/organized-jewry-did-911/" rel="bookmark">Organized jewry Did 9/11</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/09/11/organized-jewry-did-911-the-16th-anniversary-2017/" rel="bookmark">Organized jewry Did 9/11 — The 16th Anniversary, 2017</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/09/11/know-more-news-christopher-bollyn-the-man-who-solved-9-11-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Know More News — Christopher Bollyn, The Man Who Solved 9/11 — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/09/23/the-realist-report-with-christopher-bollyn-sep-2018-transcript/">The Realist Report with Christopher Bollyn – Sep 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Bonnie Faulkner from &#8220;Guns and Butter&#8221; interviews (Dec, 2019) Christopher Bollyn, the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World&#8221; and his recent book, &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2020/02/02/guns-and-butter-interviews-christopher-bollyn-the-war-on-terror-dec-18-2019-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>Bonnie Faulkner</strong> from &#8220;<strong><em>Guns and Butter</em></strong>&#8221; interviews (Dec, 2019) <strong>Christopher Bollyn,</strong> the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;<em><strong>Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World</strong></em>&#8221; and his recent book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Christopher Bollyn&#8217;s work proves beyond any doubt that 9-11 was carried out by organized jewry through Israel and zionists within the US, to create their &#8220;<em>War on Terror</em>&#8220;, aka, &#8220;<strong><em>War OF Terror</em></strong>&#8220;, in order to justify the smashing of Arab countries, and others, per the <strong>Oded Yinon Plan</strong>, as part of a scheme to create a &#8220;<em>Greater Israel</em>&#8221; domination over the Middle East, as well as their larger New World Order agenda involving the further subjugation of all White countries.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Guns and Butter with Bonnie Faulkner 2019.12.18</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">A program that investigates the relationships among capitalism, militarism and politics. Maintaining a radical perspective in the aftermath of the September 11th attacks, “Guns &amp; Butter: The Economics of Politics” reports on who wins and who loses when the economic resources of civil society are diverted toward global corporatization, war, and the furtherance of a national security state.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">The War on Terror: The Plot to Rule the Middle East</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Guest: Christopher Bollyn</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">http://gunsandbutter.org/blog/2019/12/19/the-war-on-terror-the-plot-to-rule-the-middle-east</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">The War on Terror &#8211; The Plot to Rule the Middle East<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;">Guest: Christopher Bollyn</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">The 2001 Authorization to Use Military Force (AUMF); 9/11 declared ‘an act of war’; major military operations conducted in eight countries; General Wesley Clark reveals a ‘policy coup’; Oded Yinon Plan for the Middle East; official 9/11 narrative a deception; media treatment of 9/11; the 1979 Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism; the Jonathan Institute; the Lavone Affair; 9/11 predicted; Hollywood film producer and Mossad operative Arnon Milchan; predictive programming; theft of nuclear material; Robert Maxwell, Ptech and Promis; historical roots of 9/11 and the war on terror; creation of the foe in the war on terror; Ali Mohammad; origin of terrorist videos; 9/11 memorial; trillions spent on the war on terror; constitutional treason; foreign and domestic effects of the war on terror; who benefits from the war on terror, America’s longest war.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Aired: December 4, 2019</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Audio also available here: https://www.wbai.org/archive/program/episode/?id=5755</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">(8,425 words  – 54 mins)<strong><br />
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<strong>Bollyn:</strong> It’s enterprise software, that not only gives access to everything that’s going on in the network, in real-time, but it gives you surveillance and the ability to intervene cc to do something, to change something. And this would explain, for example, why the American military was unable to respond effectively to the hijackings on 9/11.”</span></h3>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> I’m Bonnie Faulkner. Today on Guns and Butter, Christopher Bollyn. Today’s show: “<em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em>”.</p>
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<p>Christopher Bollyn is an independent researcher, investigative journalist, and author. He spent three years traveling extensively throughout Europe and the Middle East. He studied Egyptian, Biblical Hebrew, and Norwegian, at the University of Oslo. He is a graduate of the University of California in history, with an emphasis on Israel-Palestine.</p>
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<p>Along with research and writing, he has worked as an editor and translator. His travels and studies of German, Spanish, Norwegian, Swedish, Hebrew, and Arabic languages, have helped him analyze international politics and events.</p>
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<p>He is the author of “<em>Solving 9/11 — The Deception That Changed the World</em>”, “<em>Solving 9/11 — The Articles</em>”, and “<em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em>”. His newest book, out on September 11th, 2019, is “<em>Solving 9/11 — The Articles Vol II.</em></p>
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<p>Christopher Bollyn, welcome!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Thank you. It’s nice to be with you.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21048" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg" alt="" width="659" height="942" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg 659w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 659px) 100vw, 659px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You begin your book “<em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em>” with a quote from then President George White Bush, one week after the attacks of September 11th. Quote:</p>
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<h3>“This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take a while.”</h3>
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<p>Unquote. At the same time Congress passed the “<em>Authorization to Use Military Force</em>”. What does this authorization to use military force authorize the President to do?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well it’s an open-ended funding and authorization. Which allows the President to basically wage war against anybody he deems to have been involved in the terror attacks of 9/11, or to be harboring anybody who was involved in the terrorist attacks of 9/11. So it provides the money, and the political authorization, to wage war based on the President’s decision that that entity was involved in September 11.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> And this authorization to use military force is not just against other countries, but organizations, and individuals, right?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. Anybody that he sees to have been in some way involved in the terror attacks of 9/11. And that could be also a country like Afghanistan, who they said was harboring the Al-Qaeda group that they said did 9/11. But this authorization has been abused since 2001, and under the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, under the guise of fighting the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, under that authorization, they’ve waged war in dozens of countries.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21033" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg" alt="" width="738" height="924" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg 738w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force-240x300.jpg 240w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Now since the Constitution gives the right of declaring war, does this authorization take away that right from Congress? I mean, it basically hands it over to the President. It makes it his decision, isn’t that right?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. Yeah, it’s like an abdication of their responsibilities. That they have basically given him a rubber stamp that he can use to wage war wherever he sees fit. It’s his decision, and his decision alone, as to where he wants to wage war.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> What is the significance of the US President stating that the terror attacks of 9/11 were, quote:</p>
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<h3>“An act of war.”?</h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well that’s very important. They made that declaration already on the first day, on September 11th. That’s important, because it means that as an “<em>act of war</em>”, that the government will respond to it accordingly, using military force. And wage war against the people that they said did this, that committed this terrorist attack. And so the attack on the Pentagon was the one thing that allowed them to make that determination, because the Pentagon is, of course, an American military fortress. So, when you have a military attack on a military fortress it is a military, an act of war.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so using that that logic it precluded the need for there to be any criminal investigation to determine who was really behind 9/11. So, it gave them an easy way out for those people who wanted to wage war in the first place!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[05:27]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Right. The ability to wage a war, because of these attacks, then negated the necessity to hold a criminal investigation, isn’t that what you’re saying?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! And then the authorization to use military force was passed a couple days after 9/11. So, based on that, George Bush was able to take the country to war less than a month after 9/11 happened, in Afghanistan, because everything was basically allowed. The authorization, the funding, and the logic.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You point out that the US has conducted major military operations in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Syria, and the Philippines. Has any evidence been presented that any of these countries were involved in the terror attacks of September 11th?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No! Not even has evidence been presented to indict Osama bin Laden, for example. I mean, it’s a famous story about the FBI did not put Osama bin Laden on the most-wanted list for his involvement in 9/11. <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[He was listed wanted for other alleged crimes]</strong></span> Because they didn’t have evidence for that.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Guns-and-Butter-with-Bollyn-2019-6696-FBI-and-Osama-bin-Laden.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-24107" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Guns-and-Butter-with-Bollyn-2019-6696-FBI-and-Osama-bin-Laden.jpg" alt="" width="878" height="871" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Guns-and-Butter-with-Bollyn-2019-6696-FBI-and-Osama-bin-Laden.jpg 878w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Guns-and-Butter-with-Bollyn-2019-6696-FBI-and-Osama-bin-Laden-600x595.jpg 600w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Guns-and-Butter-with-Bollyn-2019-6696-FBI-and-Osama-bin-Laden-768x762.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 878px) 100vw, 878px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So the entire “<em>War on Terror</em>” is a war that is being fought under false premises. And the authorization to use military force is being abused! And they’ve spent something like seven trillion dollars on this war! This “<em>War on Terror</em>” that began in October 2001, has now gone on for over 18 years. And it’s the longest and most expensive war in US history.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> General Wesley Clark in a presentation to the San Francisco Commonwealth Club, in 2007, said that there was a coup on 9/11, in the United States, “<em>a policy coup</em>”. What did General Clark mean by “<em>a policy coup</em>”?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20726" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg" alt="" width="887" height="672" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg 887w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years-300x227.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years-768x582.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 887px) 100vw, 887px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, he said that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Some hard-nosed people took over the direction of American foreign policy and never bothered to inform the rest of us.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he pointed out that there were, in this memo that he had discovered, he had learned about when he went to the Pentagon a week, or so after 9/11, there were seven countries on this memo that the United States military was prepared to overthrow in the next five years. And those countries were <strong>Iraq</strong>, <strong>Syria</strong>, <strong>Lebanon</strong>, <strong>Libya</strong>, <strong>Somalia</strong>, <strong>Sudan</strong>, and finishing off with <strong>Iran</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s basically been the to-do list for the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. And yeah, that’s what they’ve done. And he discovered, he heard this memo and he was shocked that, &#8230; He had been the former chief of military in Europe during the Afghanistan war. He had just finished his service in Europe, and he knows policy. He knows what he’s talking about. He was running for President at the time. And he knows that this was a “<em>policy coup</em>” where what they call the “<em>neo-cons</em>”, the zionist neocons, people like Wolfowitz, had had dictated this policy. And this was being followed by the Pentagon.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> How would you describe the Israeli “<em>Yinon Plan</em>” for the Middle East? Authored by Oded Yinon and translated in English by Israel Shahak. I believe this was written in 1982.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. It was published in 1982. Well in 1982, Oded Yinon — and he’s a strategist for the Likud Party — he was writing and serving under Ariel Sharon. He wrote this strategy for Israel in the 1980s. And it called for Israel to basically a wage war and to overthrow the Arab countries all across the region! All the Arab countries! And to break them up into ethnic statelets. Into, you know, along ethnic lines. It’s often called “<em>balkanization</em>”, and it resembles what was done to Yugoslavia.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So you take a large, secular, socialist, economy, if you will, and you break it up into small warring factions that don’t get along with each other. And this is exactly, &#8230; The Yinon Plan called for, on the Eastern Front, doing this first to Iraq and then Syria. Saying that Iraq was the main enemy, the largest, most formidable, enemy of Israel.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the thing is that this is exactly what’s happened under the United States occupation of both Iraq and Syria.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I saw in the news, just today, that Michael Pence is visiting Iraq, the Kurdish section of Iraq. So Iraq has been broken up into a Sunni section, a Shiite section, and a Kurdish section, in the north. And the same sort of thing is being done to Syria. And these were the first two targets for the Israeli plan known as the Yinon Plan.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It was published in Hebrew, 1982</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[10:42]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> What are some of the drastic political and social changes that have been imposed on America and the world as a result of the 9/11 deception?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, it fundamentally changed the relationship between the citizen and the state. As you can see like in the United States when you go flying, traveling, you’re treated as a suspect, a terrorism suspect, even though you’re just a member of the traveling public. This can be on the trains, this could be on the planes. The way we’re treated when we go in through the security check.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And also there’s been a huge increase in the militarization of the police forces in America. This is partly due to the whole idea of preparing for, you know, the same sort of insurrection in the United States, as they have faced in Afghanistan and in Iraq. And also the fact that a lot of people that served in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the wars, have come back from the wars and gotten employed as police officers. So you have this whole militarization of America, the police. You see if everywhere you go. And that’s part of the, that’s the legacy of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> What exactly has the “<em>War on Terror</em>” brought us in terms of the rules of war, including torture. Now that never used to be allowed!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right, right! They don’t call it “<em>torture</em>”, they call it “<em>enhanced interrogation</em>”. But yes, the rules have all been rewritten. So that we now have torture, as you say, we had big camps, you know, in Iraq, like Camp Bucca where people were tortured and abused systematically. And this was done, because they said that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“There was a need to know what these people were up to.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so based on that, and the whole fear that they had imposed on the American public, people went along with it. They went along with this, thinking that these people that had done 9/11 were so evil, that anything would be, anything that could stop them, anything could hinder their evil plans, would be allowed. And like I said, America’s just become a very much a pro-war “<em>anything goes</em>” nation, after 9/11</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> How was the foe in the “<em>War on Terror</em>” created?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, that’s a very good question! You see the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is a very old doctrine. An Israeli doctrine, going back at least to the late 70s, when Menachem Begin — the arch terrorist of Israel history — when he became prime minister, he became prime minister in 70, 74, I think. His party came to leadership in 77. He was the Prime Minister then in 77.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Two years later he called a conference on “<em>international terrorism</em>” in Jerusalem, which was attended by something like 700 dignitaries from around the world. Owners of media, President George Bush’s father, George Herbert Walker Bush, who was running for President at a time. And they rolled out this doctrine in a three-day propaganda offensive in Jerusalem, called “<em>The Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism</em>”. In which they said that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The new enemy of the West was terrorism, international terrorism.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">At the time they blamed it all on Russia. That Russia was behind this terrorism. And they said that what has to happen is that the Western militaries have to engage, you know, the terrorists in the Middle East. And those nations that are protecting them.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so this was the doctrine. And this was the “<em>War on Terror</em>” doctrine, explained and laid out as the “<em>new doctrine</em>” for the West to follow. And what happened though, is that it didn’t go into effect immediately, because it required, of course, something like 9/11 to make the United States, you know, move it’s military operationally into the Middle East. So 9/11 was basically the spark plug, or the kick-start, that brought this “<em>War on Terror</em>” from 1979 into reality, into operation</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:07]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Of course, this “<em>Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism</em>” that took place in 1979, and was arranged by then Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin, was extremely important and seminal in this whole “<em>War on Terror</em>”. And as you’ve mentioned, George HW Bush was in attendance. And he was running for President then. On the same subject, what is the “<em>Jonathan Institute</em>” and what was its purpose?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. Well the entity that hosted the conference was the Jonathan Institute. Jonathan is the first name of Jonathan Netanyahu. This is Benjamin Netanyahu’s older brother, who reportedly died, was killed, in the Israeli operation in Entebbe, Uganda, when there was a hijack planes have been taken there. And the Israeli covert force known as “<em>Sayeret Matkal</em>” went in and were able to release the hostages. But in the process of this rescue operation, Jonathan Netanyahu was killed.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they named Institute after him. And so Menachem Begin was the organizer of the conference, he was the prime minister at the time. He was involved in Lebanon, you know, attacking Lebanon at the same time. And Benjamin Netanyahu, and his father, Benzion Netanyahu, were the conference hosts, if you will. They were the ones that organized it and got it arranged at their Institute. This isn’t an Institute that has any sort of address, physical address. It’s just an Institute. And it’s whole purpose was to promote the idea of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You mentioned this operation at Entebbe, in Uganda. Wasn’t that a false flag? I mean, was that an actual hijacking, or was that staged?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, that’s a good question, you know. I don’t have enough information about the Entebbe operation, or, you know, other operations from that time period. People say the same thing about the Munich Massacre from the Olympics in 1972, it was, I think.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, and looking back today with our understanding of how Israeli false flag operations work, there’s a lot of question marks about, you know, these earlier operations. If they were staged, or, &#8230; But the thing is, that it’s very likely, and it’s not unreasonable that people think like that, because Israel has been doing false flag operations for a long time! They’ve been doing false flag operations since they became a state, and even before.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the first false flag operation that that I know of the Israel did was in 1952, or 53. I think it’s called the Lavon Affair. And it was done in Egypt. And it was Israelis and some Egyptian jews, a cell, who were planting nitroglycerin bombs in British and American buildings, and libraries, and cultural centers, and theaters, and things like that.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that was an operation that was discovered to be an Israeli false flag operation. It was meant to be blamed on the Islamic Brotherhood. But what happened is that the Egyptian police captured some of the agents, and they confessed.</span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> In the same year as the Jerusalem Conference, veteran Israeli intelligence chief, Isser Harel, made a prediction. What was his prediction?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes, Isser Harel was the founder of the Israeli Mossad. He’s like the first real chief of the Mossad, and former head of the Shin Bet, which is Israel’s internal intelligence, like the FBI. And he said, he made a prediction to an American zionist, he predicted that Arabs would attack the tallest building in New York City. And that they would do this, because this is a symbol, you know, American fertility.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And yeah, that they would attack the tallest building in New York City. And he made that prediction in 1979.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it was only reported after 9/11. It was reported by a guy named Michael Evans from Texas. He’s a jewish guy, who has a Christian evangelical operation called, “<em>Jerusalem Prayers</em>”, or something like that. But what he does is, he’s one of these Christian zionists who’s very pro-zionist. And he was very close with people like Menachem Begin, and Isser Harel.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so at the same time that they had this conference Isser Harel was putting into his mind, into mister Michael Evans mind, the idea that, &#8230; Well, it’s called “<em>The Jerusalem Prayer Team</em>”, that’s what it’s called. That Arabs were targetting the United States of America, and they would target the tallest building in New York City.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I call this “<em>ideation</em>”. This is putting hints out there, putting the idea out there, through people like the evangelist Minister. They did the same thing in movie form, television shows. They put the idea out there that Arabs are targetting the tallest buildings in New York City. So when it happens, the public is a short way for them to understand that this is simply reality, imitating art! You know, that this has been predicted, and it’s understood. And:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, that’s what happened! Didn’t you see the movie?”</span></h3>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[20:28]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Yes! Could you talk about Mossad operative, Arnon Milchan, and the Hollywood films he’s produced?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21022" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg" alt="" width="666" height="863" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg 666w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-232x300.jpg 232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 666px) 100vw, 666px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Arnon Milchan is right in the middle of this current case with Benjamin Netanyahu. Because he’s the Hollywood producer who was also a senior Israeli agent. He was an agent in an operation called “<em>Lakam</em>”, LAKAM.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[LAKAM is an acronym for Bureau of Scientific Relations, an Israeli intelligence agency that collected scientific and technical intelligence abroad.]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">And that is Israel’s top secret operation to get components for their nuclear program from the United States. And this guy was their number one agent.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he was at the same time he was a Hollywood film producer. He made “<em>Pretty Woman</em>”, “<em>JFK</em>”, “<em>Brazil</em>”, “<em>Fight Club</em>”, you know, lots of movies he’s made.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in his movies there’s often ideation of the 9/11 attacks. For example, there’s a movie he made called, &#8230; The first movie ever made was called “<em>The Medusa Touch</em>” in 1978. In which a passenger aircraft is flown into the Pan Am building. And that’s the climactic scene of the movie, I think. It’s one year before the conference</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Jerusalem Conference]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;">, and it’s very telling.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21037" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg" alt="" width="641" height="861" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg 641w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy-223x300.jpg 223w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 641px) 100vw, 641px" /></a></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">When you understand that, when you see that he, Arnon Milchan, was Israel’s top Israeli agent! He’s close friends with Ezra Weitzman, the Defense Minister of Israel at the time. He’s very close friends of Shimon Peres. Shimon Peres is the guy who brought him in. Shimon Peres is of course, the Godfather of the whole Israeli arsenal, nuclear arsenal. And this man, Arnon Milchan, his operation was to get what they needed for the nuclear arsenal.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he was caught red-handed! His operation was caught red-handed smuggling nuclear triggers, something like 800 of them, from the United States to Israel! And at that time his employee who was involved in this operation, was Benjamin Netanyahu.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now, in the trial with Benjamin Netanyahu, the charges that are placed against Netanyahu, part of it is, because he was receiving bribes, or gifts, very expensive gifts from Arnon Milchan.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Now, what about the television pilot, “<em>The Lone Gunman</em>” that you write about in your book, was co-produced by Arnon Milchan and Rupert Murdoch.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well they had a television company together. They have, or they had, “<em>Regency Productions</em>”, I think it’s called. And they’re very close as well. Murdoch is very close to Arnon Milchan. Milchan was his landlord, or vice versa, but in any case they’re business partners as well. They’re co-owners of this TV production company.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in 2000, Murdoch’s company “<em>New Regency</em>” films I think it was called, they made this production called “<em>The Lone Gunman</em>”, in which something like the 9/11 attack, very similar, happens in the film. It’s only a half an hour film — it’s made for TV — in which a passenger aircraft is hijacked remotely using a kind of more sophisticated chip called “<em>Octium chip</em>”. And the plane is hijacked using the override, so that the pilots don’t even know it, because the plane is being flown on autopilot. And what happens is that the plane is flown, is being flown directly into the World Trade Center. And at the last minute the pilots are able to regain control and just narrowly miss avoid hitting the World Trade Center.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But this movie came out, and was aired on Fox TV, in March of 2001. Six months before 9/11 happened.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this is the thing what we see with Milchan, and Milchan-Murdoch films, is that the idea, the “<em>ideation</em>” of 9/11 is shown time, after time, after time. And the idea of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is another part of his films.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">In the movie Brazil, the futuristic film Brazil, it’s a state where, like the United States is today, where the state is waging a constant war against terrorism. And in doing so, it’s, you know, it’s imposing itself a great deal on its own people</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Yes, in the film Brazil, there are terrorist attacks and bombings just randomly! I remember a scene where some people are having an elegant dinner, and all of a sudden a bomb blows out the wall!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Mm hmm.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> But it’s just routine and the waiters rush in, and put up a screen between the diners and the blown out wall! And it’s all presented as if it’s just a day in the life!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:13]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. And if you remember that scene in the restaurant where the women are talking about the operations and the surgeries they can get, and the bomb goes off. Just before the bomb goes off, the woman, one of the young girls says, “<em>Salt?</em>”, and she raises a jar of salt to offer salt, and then the bomb goes off! That’s very interesting.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, as soon as the bomb goes off, the band brushes themselves off, and starts playing. And what song do they start playing? The Hava Nagila, the zionist national anthem! Hava Nagila!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Oh my god, I forgot about that detail!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Whose idea was that! And that’s just like Arnon Milchan making a joke out of the whole thing, you know. This movie was made in 1985, or 86, and it’s like it’s a very, very interesting choice of music.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Yeah, that’s very chilling! You’ve mentioned how Arnon Milchan was involved in the smuggling of nuclear triggers out of the United States to Israel. Could you talk about the theft of nuclear material and uranium from the United States by Israeli operatives? Who were they? And what was the timeframe in which these thefts were taking place?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, there was an operation, I think it was in the 70s, or early 80s, from Apollo Pennsylvania in which Isser Harel, his men, his main men, were then Zvi Malkin and Shalom</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Avraham]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;"> Bendor and a very key player in this is a man named Rafi Eitan.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Rafi Eitan, this man, was the head of the LAKAM program at the time. He was the head of the operation to get the components for nuclear materials. And he sent these men, Shalom Bandor and Zvi Malkin. And Rafi Eitan himself was a member of this group. They went to Apollo Pennsylvania and arranged with this man who owned this company, New Mec, I think it’s called. The man’s name was Ben Shapiro. And he was American jew who was willing to help.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what happened is that after they visited the plant Apollo, and met with Mr Shapiro, the plutonium was then sent in special cartons to Israel by LA freighters. And this was the smuggling of plutonium to Israel for their nuclear weapons.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s interesting that this is discussed in the book about Robert Maxwell, “<em>Israel’s Superspy</em>”</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Robert Maxwell, Israel’s Superspy (2003) ]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">because, you know, Rafi Eitan played a big role in all of this stuff. And it also involved the theft of the PROMIS software.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Prosecutors Management Information System]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">That came a little bit later. That came in the 80s. But when Rafi Eitan was able to steal the PROMIS software — this is the prosecutors information management system — it allowed them to adapt the software for spying and sell to countries all around the world. Which gave the super user — the Israelis — access to everything that was going on in the networks that had bought the software.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Right. And you mentioned Robert Maxwell in connection to this stolen PROMIS software. And I believe in that book, isn’t he’s selling this software to other countries?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah! They used Maxwell as their main sales agent. And he sold it, you know, first places like Zimbabwe, and South Africa, and then to Jordan, and countries in the Middle East. And it got everywhere! It got to banks, and Swiss banks. And then they, this was the PROMIS, this was the modified PROMIS software.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they got the PROMIS software from the Department of Justice. And he was — Rafi Eitan — was travelling in the United States under an alias. I think was named David Orr, or something like that. Dr. David Orr. So, he was using the identity of an Israeli man — a real doctor in Jerusalem — and travelling under his name.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they got this software, and then they he adapted it. He brought it back to Israel and they adapted it for spying. So they put a microchip in there and they moved things around, so that this became an enterprise spyware. And this was in the 80s, this is like in 1984.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then 83, 84, and then they kept developing this, the capacity of, the capabilities of the software into something called “<em>pTech</em>”. And pTech was the software that was running on all the American military computers and the federal computers on 9/11. And this was again, the spy software that was developed by Israel. And that was being used to monitor what happened at the F AA on 9/11. And it’s part of, it’s a very important aspect of the computer crime with 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:09]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Right. And you pointed out to me something I hadn’t thought of but that “<em>pTech</em>” probably is a shortened form of PROMIS technology, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. It stands to reason, because it’s the same sort of software. It’s enterprise software that gives you not only access to everything that’s going on in the network in real time, but it gives you surveillance, and the ability to intervene, to do something, to change something.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this would explain, for example, why the American military was unable to respond effectively to the hijackings on 9/11, because planes were diverted, you know, communications were missed. So the attacks went on, unhindered.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> And I think we might also mention, with regard to Robert Maxwell, that he is, of course, the father of Ghilane Maxwell, who’s been in the news lately, with regard to the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right, right.! And in the Epstein scandal you see that one of the most conspicuous Israelis involved in that was Ehud Barak — the former head of Israeli military intelligence — was seen photographed coming in and out of the townhouse of Jeffrey Epstein. And he would stay at Jeffrey Epstein’s house, one of his houses, when he was in town.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So yeah, it’s an Israeli operation. You know, the Epstein thing was an Israeli operation. And it was used to control people of influence, politicians, and what-have-you. And if you look at the list of people who flew on the “<em>Lolita Express</em>”, or who stayed on Jeffrey Epstein’s island, it’s all the big shots. It’s all the top brass.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You write that when we examine the historical roots of the 9/11 atrocity and the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, we find more indications that 9/11 and the “<em>War on Terror</em>” both originate from the same source. What are some of the key events, beginning in 1977, that point to a common origin for both 9/11 and the “<em>War on Terror</em>”? Now, I know you’ve already mentioned a few of them, but what event occurred in 1977?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well that’s when the Likud Party came to power. As I said, that’s when <strong>Menachem Begin</strong> came to power. And Menachem Begin is a unabashed, notorious, terrorist. He was involved in the bombing of the <strong>King David Hotel</strong>, back in 1946. He was involved in the Deir Yassin massacre. You know, when they mastered an entire village near Jerusalem, to put the fear into the Palestinians.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20725" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg" alt="" width="719" height="574" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg 719w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin-300x239.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 719px) 100vw, 719px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So when this man came to power, &#8230; You know, as Dr. Einstein wrote in 1948, Einstein warned the American jews and the American community, that if Menachem Begin ever comes to power, if his party ever comes to power — it was known as “<em>Herut</em>” at that time — these are terrorists and they will do terrible things!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, you know, unfortunately the warnings of Albert Einstein were not heeded. But anybody who’s followed Israeli politics over the decades knows that the likes of Ariel Sharon, and Yitzhak Shamir, and Menachem Begin, these are people who came to power using terrorism! Terrorism is their modus operandi! So that when they came to power politically, in 1977, it would be no surprise, should be no surprise, that they immediately engaged in wars of aggression against Lebanon, for example. And they immediately began using terrorism.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20707" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg" alt="" width="673" height="940" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg 673w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman-215x300.jpg 215w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 673px) 100vw, 673px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">There’s a book that came out “<em>Rise and Kill First</em>”, came out last year. And it’s written by an Israeli guy. It’s a discussion of, it’s a description of all of the, not all, but a lot of the Israeli assassinations over the years. And in this book they talk about, in 1979 Israeli military intelligence created a terrorist network in Lebanon, in which the Israelis themselves were putting car bombs, and donkey bombs, and truck bombs, which operated for four years! For four years, until 1983. And causing chaos and wars in Lebanon between various factions.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, of course, remember 1983, what happened to the American barracks in Beirut. It was blown up by a truck bomb that the Mossad knew all about. So that was the beginning of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as I said, that they had the conference in 1979, in which they laid out the doctrine that the West should engage, you know, Islamic terrorism across the region, because it’s a struggle of the West.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21057" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg" alt="" width="614" height="902" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg 614w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents-204x300.jpg 204w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 614px) 100vw, 614px" /></a></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:14]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then in 1982, again, the Oded Yinon Plan came out, which called for the balkanization of all the Arab states. Well, how is little Israel go to balkanize all the states? Well, in order to do that they obviously had to get the Western militaries in there to do the hard lifting that required, they needed it to be done, in places like Iraq and Syria. That’s exactly what’s happened!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so then, fast forward to, like, 9/11 happened. And that was as I said, the kick-start for the whole “<em>War on Terror</em>”! That Bibi Netanyahu had been pushing for decades!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">If you remember, in the 80s Netanyahu came out with — after the first conference in Jerusalem — he came out with books about it. He came out with books in which he reprinted the speeches that were given, or the articles that were written about it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he promoted this “<em>War on Terror</em>”. And he wrote books like “<em>Fighting Terrorism</em>” and “<em>How the West Can Win</em>”</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Terrorism: How the West Can Win]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;">. And so he was pushing this, like, uphill all the way! And when I read those books about, you know how was this gonna happen, how does it come to fruition? Well 9/11 is how it happened!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20995" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg" alt="" width="618" height="604" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg 618w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote-300x293.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 618px) 100vw, 618px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So when 9/11 happened, they were able to kick-start the “<em>War on Terror</em>” that he’d been pushing for so long. So when he was asked by the New York Times on 9/11:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“What does this mean? What does what happened today mean for Israeli-American relations?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s very good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He blurted it out!:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s very good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He said</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[correcting himself]</strong></span>:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, it’s not very good, but it’ll bring sympathy for Israeli position.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Or something like that. So it’s like, you know, he couldn’t hold himself back! And then, all the interpretation that we got about the events of 9/11 came through, from him, and Ehud Barak.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20715" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png" alt="" width="480" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png 480w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC-300x225.png 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ehud Barack was in the BBC television studio in London shortly after the towers were struck. And he was calling for, &#8230; He blamed Osama bin Laden! He said that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Now is the time to start a concrete operational ‘War on Terror’.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s exactly what we got! And then as I said, then there was the memo in the Pentagon that was circulating at the highest levels, calling for the overthrow of seven countries in five years. And they took a little bit longer than five years, but that’s exactly what we’ve done. And now, of course, in the cross-hairs is Iran</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You address the question of which came first, the terror attacks of 9/11, or the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. How would you answer this question?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Which came first, 9/11, or the “<em>War on Terror</em>”?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well as I said, before 9/11 happened on September 11th 2001. But the “<em>War on Terror</em>” doctrine preceded it by, what, 22 years at least. So, it’s like, they laid out that the whole idea of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. They laid out the logic, they laid out the propaganda for it, before they achieved it. And in order to achieve it they had to get, of course, the United States military into the region. So that’s what 9/11 was all about.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as you saw, it was all done like on a greased slide. They had the authorization to use military force, they had declared it an “<em>act of war</em>”, they had the Pentagon attack. So it was a foregone conclusion that the United States military would respond. And it was all prepared in advance! It was all very carefully laid out, so that it was a given, it was a given, that after 9/11, United States would go into the Middle East and start waging war.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it started in Afghanistan and then they pushed for Iraq. And this is all part of the doctrine of the “<em>Project for a New American Century</em>”. That paper that came out one year before 9/11, in which they called for a complete change in the American military policy and foreign policy. They should become the policemen of the world, that the United States should should occupy Iraq — whether Saddam Hussein is on the throne, or not — simply, because it’s too important of a country to be left to its own.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this was all discussed in the lead-up to the election in 2000, when George Bush won. And it was, &#8230; They knew that if George Bush won, and with Ariel Sharon winning in Israel, that it was a pretty clear, you know, pretty clear that there would be a war coming out of this constellation of hard-line people.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s very similar to what happened in 1982 when you had Ronald Reagan and Menachem Begin in power. An ideologue like Reagan, and an ideologue like Bush, with a Likud politician like Ariel Sharon, you’re going to get conflict.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Who was Ali Mohammed, and what role did he play in creating the enemy to be fought in the “<em>War on Terror</em>”?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, Ali Mohammed was the first trainer for Osama bin Laden.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what happened is that when the, of course, when the Soviet, the Red Army conquered Afghanistan there was this Mujahideen force that was dislocated into Pakistan. Afghans who were fighting against the Red Army for Afghanistan. And what happened is the United States — this is part of the Charlie Wilson story — congressman Charlie Wilson from Texas, he and the Saudi Arabians, and the Pakistanis, agreed to put up the money.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what happened is that the Israelis under Ehud Barak — again — when Ehud Barak was head of military intelligence in 83, 84 and 85, I think it was, he began providing the weapons and the training for the Mujahideen, who were training in Pakistan, and then going back into Afghanistan and fighting.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so what he did is, he took the weapons off the battlefield from Lebanon in 82, and transferred them to Pakistan. And the Pakistani government was aware that this was being done by Israel. It was secret and everything, but if they allowed it to go on, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And one of the trainers who was training these Arabs, these Afghan Arabs they are called — people like Osama bin Laden — was a man called Ali Mohammed, who happens to be a Hebrew speaking agent, supposedly from Egypt, probably an Egyptian jew, or something. I don’t know. But he spoke Hebrew. And he learned Hebrew probably from being the trainer with the Israeli intelligence working in Pakistan. But this is the man who trained and set up all these operations that were done in the name of Osama bin Laden.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So he set up other operations as well, like the shooting in New York of Maher Kahana, and things like that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Ali Mohammed then, was then finally arrested. And he had been trained in America, as well. He was then put in a federal penitentiary, a federal prison, and then he disappeared from the federal prison without a trace!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Kind of like what happened to Jeffrey Epstein.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> What has your research revealed about the origins of the terrorist videos?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well the terrorist videos, you know, they all have come to us from one source. And that source is SITE Intelligence Group. And recently there’s a couple more branches, derivatives of that group, but SITE Intelligence Group is a propaganda, &#8230; I call it a propaganda tool of the Israeli state.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s based in Maryland. Bethesda, Maryland. It’s run by an Iraqi jewish woman named Rita Katz. And these videos would be provided from her SITE Intelligence Group to the media, and the subscribers. And there was one of the videos back in, I know 2009, or something, about Osama bin Laden. And in that case she had sent this video, of a beheading, maybe it was a beheading video. She had sent this video out to several people in the administration, high up people in the government. And before it had been released</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[by ISIL]</strong></span>. <span style="color: #0000ff;">And she told them:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Don’t tell anybody had this video until it’s been released by the, &#8230;”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">All Qaeda, or ISIL, whatever it was. But somehow it leaked. And so it became known that she had this video. This Israeli woman had this video and had released it to the media, before it had even been released by the people who were the terrorists!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So you have to say:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well how did this woman have the video before it’s even been released by the Arab terrorists?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this is the thing, is that in order to keep the “<em>War on Terror</em>” going, and to steer this monster, they have to occasionally do things, or bring out information or, you know, “<em>interpret</em>” what’s going on in the Middle East for the Americans.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And just like 9/11, how 9/11 was “<em>interpreted</em>”, it was interpreted for the United States government, for the military, by Ehud Barak. It’s the same thing what Rita Katz and SITE intelligence is doing, they are interpreting the Middle East for us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so what’s amazing is these groups like ISIS, and ISIL, and Al Qaeda, who can make all these flashy videos, and do all these things, are unable to actually reach the Western media themselves, directly. It always goes through this Israeli bottleneck, if you will.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s interesting that you asked about what General Wesley Clark said about this policy coup. And he had said that when this happened, when 9/11 happened, he said that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We did not have American understanding of it.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">9/11, he’s talking about. And what he means to say is that, we didn’t, our understanding of 9/11 did not come from America, American sources, from American intelligence. It came to our understanding, it came from Israel. Israel interpreted 9/11 for us! And that’s the case all throughout the whole saga.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The whole deception of 9/11, you know, 9/11 was done in order to achieve a certain agenda. And that agenda was the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and the attacks the United States has done against the Arab states, makes no sense! It makes no sense for Osama bin Laden to do something like that. He didn’t do this big sophisticated attack, because he hates America liberties and freedoms!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It was done for a much more, much bigger reason.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that reason was to start the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is an Israeli construct. So that the sophistication of 9/11, and the end result of 9/11, strongly indicate that this is an Israeli, or a zionist operation, from A to Z!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And look at the actual memorial, the Ground Zero Memorial, in New York City. It was also designed and built by an Israeli! It was built by the former ambassador, Israeli ambassador’s son, Arad. Michael Arad.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Yes, with regard to the 9/11 memorial in New York City, I finally saw it a few years ago. And it’s very, very, dark! I was quite shocked by it!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>It’s, a lot of, &#8230; I believe the museum is actually underground. And the waterfalls, there are these waterfalls that go down into the ground. In the shape of the footprints of the Twin Towers. But it’s very, it’s black looking! And then there’s this bizarre, huge white, it looks like the skeleton of a dinosaur, or something! I mean, the wrong thing is really weird!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. And the guy that, &#8230; The architect who built it, the young fella, who was not hardly known, he’s a friend of Mayor Bloomberg. He’s also a very close friend of the Netanyahu family. He’s a friend, he’s a personal friend of Netanyahu’s son.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s like the entire, you know, operation from the planning, and preparation, setting up the prediction, the “<em>ideation</em>” of the actual event, then the foisting of the deception, foisting the false narrative on the American public and the world, and then the actual control of the legacy, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We’re talking about the memorial, you talk about the legacy, you’re talking about the place where, you know, school buses come every day. Dozens of school buses coming every day. And kids are taken off the bus and led through this place, and they’re basically taught the false narrative, they’re indoctrinated into the false narrative of what happened on 9/11! That 9/11 was done by these, you know, fanatical, Arab, Muslims.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s why we are where we are today in the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And see, that’s why this book, the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is so important, because I wrote, &#8230; It’s a very small book. It’s only about 160 pages long, 170 many pages, because it’s very important for the public to understand that the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is a big fraud!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the fraud of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is related to the deception we’ve been told about 9/11. Like this book is really meant for the reader who already understands that we’ve been deceived about 9/11, and who did it. And the “<em>War on Terror</em>” book explains why we have been deceived, and who’s behind the deception.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> You write that the real radicals are, in fact, the traitors in the political, and media arenas, who have pushed the lies about 9/11, and the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, since September 2001, as opposed to those who do real research on these events</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Well, my chapter two of the book. It says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“9/11 truth is anything but radical.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that stands to reason. A radical is somebody who calls for, like radical change in a political situation, and that’s what we got. A conservative is a person who says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well let’s go slow, make incremental, small changes. Let’s not change everything overnight.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But what happened with 9/11, of course, is that before there was any investigation into what happened on 9/11, the United Sates was waging war in Afghanistan! And the authorization to wage, you know, the authorization to use military force we were talking about, was passed.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so this longest war in American history was started before there was even any investigation!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21054" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg" alt="" width="660" height="941" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg 660w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 660px) 100vw, 660px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when people call for a new investigation, they have to understand that there hasn’t been an investigation of 9/11! 9/11 remains an unsolved crime. Hence the title of my book “<em>Solving 9/11</em>”. It’s an unsolved crime in which the evidence was actually confiscated, and destroyed, rather than then analyzed.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So there’s been no criminal investigation, and there’s been no trial!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s a very, very bizarre thing! And it says a lot about the, &#8230; I don’t know how to say this, &#8230; It’s how America has gotten so hijacked by a small group of people who control the media! And they’ve hijacked our nation for decades now, into this “<em>War on Terror</em>”! And it’s a war against the American people.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[50:08]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s really important that they wake up and understand that if we want to preserve any kind of freedom in America, we have to understand how we’ve been duped into the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Have the multiple trillions of dollars spent to wage the global “<em>War on Terror</em>” been borrowed at interest?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well yeah! It’s all borrowed money! Trump said a couple months ago, a few months ago, he said that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s seven trillion dollars.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what have we gotten for it? Nothing! Nothing!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, we’ve got a lot worse than that! We’ve gotten a big debt! A seven trillion dollars, plus the interest on that. And that debt is just growing all the time. But the actual cost of the war, including that future debt payments, and treatment for the wounded vets, and what have you, is about seven trillion dollars. It’s an incredible amount of money!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so that’s why, you know, you look around America you see the homeless people, the situation with the infrastructure, the general demise of our nation. And you say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Couldn’t that money have been better spent, here at home, rather than waging mindless, senseless, wars against people who have nothing to do with 9/11, in distant countries?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> How is treason defined in the US Constitution? And how would treason apply to those who engaged in what the US government termed “<em>an act of war</em>”?”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21081" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="680" height="971" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg 680w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well, treason is, &#8230; Part of the treason argument is that by levying war against the United States government, by levying war against the American people, and the nation, &#8230; And anybody who supports that in any way — it says in the dictionary, about treason and the Constitution — is culpable of the same crime. So that would include people even in the media, who have willfully fed the deception.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You see it was an act of deception. It’s an ongoing, active, deception!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We have now for 18 years, this deception about 9/11 being presented in the media, whenever it’s discussed.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so there’s been no investigation by the media. The media has been complicit in this deception against American people. And that means that they are responsible also for the crime of treason, because they are supporting, they are aiding, they are aiding and abetting in helping those who levied war against United States of America!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> What effect have the 9/11 wars had on Syria?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well Syria is just the latest. I don’t know if it’s the latest, there might be more going on in other places, but Syria is the second one of those countries that Yinon Plan <strong>[Oded Yinon]</strong> called for an Eastern Front. It said, first take out Iraq, breakdown the central government, the military, and balkanize the country.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then the next country was Syria. In Syria, that’s what they’ve been doing.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in Syria, of course, they used these self-created terrorist groups called ISIS and ISIL. And there’s a whole host of them. And these are the people that McCain was seen going over to. Senator McCain was seen meeting with them! And one of the people is thought to be, that he’s meeting with, is Al-Baghdadi, the one who they said they killed a couple weeks ago.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But he’s meeting with these people, these terrorists who ran these militias, these gangs, that were waging war against the government of Syria. So again, the target is to take down the central government of Syria, remove the regime of Bashar Al-Assad — which was elected after all — and replacing it with a broken up country! With, you know, one ethnic group here, one there, one there, one there! And they’ve succeeded in doing that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what they’ve really succeeded in doing is, the United States is occupying the eastern third of the country from the Euphrates River to the east, and that’s where the oil is. And now Trump is saying that we’re gonna use this war on terrorism to secure, or to maintain, control over Syria’s oil. And he says we’re doing this to keep the oil away from ISIS, ISIL. I don’t know.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">One thing they’re trying to keep it away from, they’re definitely trying to keep it away from the Syrian government, because it’s the Syrian government who needs the oil, more than anybody.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>G&amp;B:</strong> Christopher Bollyn, thank you very much!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well thank you Bonnie. It’s been a pleasure.</span></p>
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<p>There has a been numerous requests, most recently &amp; rather strongly by participant Callahan, for a separate forum to discuss the activities of &#8216;9/11&#8217;.</p>
<p>I have generally been opposed to it, it&#8217;s not part of CODOH&#8217;s job description, so to speak, and I thought it may be a distraction from our prime directive.</p>
<p>However, in lieu of Callahan&#8217;s recent impassioned plea and weighing past suggestions of others, I think it&#8217;s time to re-evaluate and consider creating such a forum. I&#8217;m not 100% sold on it, but am leaning that way.</p>
<p>Rather than make a simple yes/no poll, I would like to solicit opinions &amp; suggestions to see if this is something we should do.</p>
<p>I will set up such a <em><strong>9/11 Forum</strong></em> if there is a reasoned consensus in favor.</p>
<p>Let me hear from you. Thanks.</p>
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<p>I support it. Here&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>1. The parallels between 9/11 and the Holocaust are too big to overlook. These parallels include using both events to justify war crimes in the Middle East, there being an &#8216;official&#8217; version for both events, and ignored, but very thought out arguments against each &#8216;official&#8217; version.</p>
<p>2. Although 9/11 is not the Holocaust, the parallels deserve their own sub-forum, and what better website than <a class="postlink" href="https://forum.codoh.com">https://forum.codoh.com</a>?</p>
<p>3. This forum is very structured, and a great place to debate. Adding 9/11 in with the mix would be spice in this wonderful bowl of soup.</p>
<p>4. It would by default bring 9/11 truthers who believe in the Holocaust, and would further demolish &#8216;the Industry&#8217; by showing him facts. And people who are looking for the truth, such as a 9/11 truther, would be much easier to convince than an antifa terrorist or a warmongering, Israel loving Republican. It would be a win-win.</p>
<p>5. People such as Callahan and myself both favor this proposed sub-forum. If people don&#8217;t like it, or aren&#8217;t interested, they simply can avoid it. It really is that simple.</p>
<p>6. This isn&#8217;t flat earth or reptilian, or fringe beliefs. This is a position which very intelligent people disagree, and by no means would it make us look bad. The ADL and SPLC already defame us.</p>
<p>For these reasons, I support a separate sub-forum for 9/11 on this website.</p>
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<p>I agree with JLAD on all points.</p>
<p>The &#8216;Holocaust&#8217; and 9-11 are really joined at the hip.</p>
<p>It might be/probably will be, more difficult to Moderate a 9-11 Forum than a &#8216;Holocaust&#8217; Forum because it is so much more important to the perpetrators to keep the lid on 9-11.</p>
<p>No doubt, there will be infiltrators and agent saboteurs who will join the 9-11 Forum with the intent to start fights and heated arguments in order to get the Moderator to close the Forum own, but hopefully whoever the Moderator will be, will be able to spot them.</p>
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<p>If someone wanted to talk about 9-11 and the Israeli connections to it, does that mean we will then have to open up the forum to Israeli connections to</p>
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<p>and any other number of false flag or conspiracies? When will it stop? I have things to say about 9-11 and that list of 5 things. But I don&#8217;t see the need to drag them in. I can do without it. I don&#8217;t mind a strictly holocaust forum staying that way.</p>
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<p><cite>Werd wrote:</cite>If someone wanted to talk about 9-11 and the Israeli connections to it, does that mean we will then have to open up the forum to Israeli connections to</p>
<p>1. JFK<br />
2. USS Liberty<br />
3. Lavon Affair<br />
4. Jewish AIPAC lobby/spy rings<br />
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<p>No, and those examples lack the parallel that the Holocaust has with 9/11. See my post above.</p>
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<div><cite>Werd wrote:</cite>and any other number of false flag or conspiracies? When will it stop? I have things to say about 9-11 and that list of 5 things. But I don&#8217;t see the need to drag them in. I can do without it. I don&#8217;t mind a strictly holocaust forum staying that way.</div>
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<p>False, this is not a &#8216;strictly holocaust forum&#8217;; there already is a WWII sub forum. Should that be removed because it talks about things not necessarily Holocaust related?</p>
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<p>Upon reflection, this makes a lot of sense.</p>
<p>The reason we have an additional section on codoh for other aspects of world war II, is because the gas chamber/gas van holocaust of the Jews is claimed to have happened at this certain time. Exposing other lies and deceptions about world war II, such as<br />
1.how many really died at Dresden<br />
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merely justify the right and duty to investigate wild holocaust claims.</p>
<p>The holocaust is connected to world war II like these other things because that is precisely when they occurred.</p>
<p>You say 9-11 and the holocaust are connected to perpetual war and slaughter of innocent in the middle east? There is a parallel with JFK. One of the reasons he was taken out is because he was opposed to Israeli dominance in the middle east and them having nuclear weaponry. JFK also wanted to stop the Vietnam war, a war in which Jewish technocrat Henry Kissinger was involved in prolonging.<br />
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<p>Other false flags like the Lavon Affair were to be used to demonize Arabs and justify further repression of them, ala, 9-11. So again I ask, why do we get selective with some false flags that are used to justify war and perpetual slaughter overseas, but not others? This is just me being devil&#8217;s advocate. I don&#8217;t care either way if we add a 9-11 forum. But if we are going to do it under the guise of destroying fables that are used to justify war and perpetual slaughter, then why not other false flags that have also been used for that? Where is the cut off?</p>
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<p>Moderator, first of all, thank you for your openness to this. I think JLAD and Dresden sum up a very large portion of why I find a bridge between Revisionism and 9/11 studies to be so important, and why I think this forum would benefit from incorporating such an element. However, truly, my own greatest intention is to share something a bit more specific with you all, here. There is a relatively unheard-of, evidence-based approach to 9/11 that I am extremely confident members here will find value in. I do think this will inevitably become the foundation for all 9/11 research going forward (once it becomes known), and it very much pertains to the distinction between Revisionist research (which is strictly evidence-based, critical, and open) and establishment Holocaust research (emotionally-driven, fallacious, etc.). It won&#8217;t be possible to explain here without a more proper introduction to it (which I offered in the thread I attempted to post here previously; fortunately, I saved the text for future use, just in case). If an entirely new forum for 9/11 isn&#8217;t something most members here would appreciate, I would very much value the opportunity to at least post the thread I had initially intended to share. As hard-to-believe as it may be considering the ridiculous spectrum of 9/11 theories and many hostile, fruitless debates since 2001, I can very near guarantee that&#8211;regardless of what you have heard about either &#8220;side&#8221; or fringe in the debate on 9/11 previously&#8211;this will be new to you, and will provide a refreshing style of technical analyses that will open your mind to this subject in new and productive ways.</p>
<p>As far as having a separate 9/11 forum, I think this could be a great idea as well however I do recognize the challenges that might come with moderating such a forum. The problem is, people are very passionate about whatever theory they end up aligning with, one way or another. Each theory relies on a vast amount of information from within its own paradigm and the heated debates between people of competing paradigms are often so ill-informed and grounded in so little actual, <em>immediately verifiable</em> evidence that the whole debate becomes a petty argument rather than an analysis of grounded, indisputable facts. The &#8220;evidence-based approach&#8221; I refer to is a solution to this problem, and I have seen it work. But beside this approach being introduced I have several ideas that might help alleviate certain problems. Since there are, at this time, at most five or six major technical theories about 9/11 (some of which are patently ridiculous, in my opinion, such as DEW energy beams, mini-nukes); it may be advisable to have a separate pinned thread for each of the competing <em>technical</em> theories. This will enable those who align with (or are passionate about) a particular theory to share what they regard as plausible evidence within their assigned thread. Those who are interested can add-onto what they find credible, or challenge it there. Viewers of the forum can tour each proposal for technical theories and appraise credibility. Then the unpinned, general posts can be any discussion of compatibility or consensus between these technical theories as well as any discussion of the means/motive of 9/11 (which I think most of us here already possess enough knowledge to make a clear case for).</p>
<p>While I would understand the basis for Werd&#8217;s concern about the <em>Revisionists&#8217; forum</em> if 9/11 topics were casually permitted throughout, I do not see the harm if a 9/11 forum is kept strictly separated as its own (perhaps even on a &#8220;trial basis&#8221;?). As JLAD mentioned, if people don&#8217;t like it, they can simply scroll past. The parallels between 9/11 and the Holocaust are undeniable. 9/11 is far more relevant to the Holocaust than any other Zionist-Jewish crimes of the last century (Lavon affair, USS Liberty, etc.). It is <strong>the</strong> &#8220;Big Lie&#8221; of the 21st century, demonstrably so, and for nearly the same purposes.</p>
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<p><cite>JLAD Prove Me Wrong wrote:</cite>I support it. Here&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>1. The parallels between 9/11 and the Holocaust are too big to overlook. These parallels include using both events to justify war crimes in the Middle East, there being an &#8216;official&#8217; version for both events, and ignored, but very thought out arguments against each &#8216;official&#8217; version.</p>
<p>2. Although 9/11 is not the Holocaust, the parallels deserve their own sub-forum, and what better website than <a class="postlink" href="https://forum.codoh.com">https://forum.codoh.com</a>?</p>
<p>3. This forum is very structured, and a great place to debate. Adding 9/11 in with the mix would be spice in this wonderful bowl of soup.</p>
<p>4. It would by default bring 9/11 truthers who believe in the Holocaust, and would further demolish &#8216;the Industry&#8217; by showing him facts. And people who are looking for the truth, such as a 9/11 truther, would be much easier to convince than an antifa terrorist or a warmongering, Israel loving Republican. It would be a win-win.</p>
<p>5. People such as Callahan and myself both favor this proposed sub-forum. If people don&#8217;t like it, or aren&#8217;t interested, they simply can avoid it. It really is that simple.</p>
<p>6. This isn&#8217;t flat earth or reptilian, or fringe beliefs. This is a position which very intelligent people disagree, and by no means would it make us look bad. The ADL and SPLC already defame us.</p>
<p>For these reasons, I support a separate sub-forum for 9/11 on this website.</p>
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<p>I am for such a separate forum for the reasons posted above. I have talked about the parallels between both events on a few occasions and they were eventually deleted because they are supposedly off topic. 9/11 is a huge crack in the matrix and many people who eventually start doubting the holocaust are 9/11 &#8220;truthers&#8221;. The 9/11 movement is humungous compared to holocaust revisionism. Generally, people who have that guts to think for themselves and rely on solid forensic evidence instead of hearsay. Those are the people we should attract and you will find lot&#8217;s of 9/11 truthers among them.</p>
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<div><cite>Werd wrote:</cite>The reason we have an additional section on codoh for other aspects of world war II, is because the gas chamber/gas van holocaust of the Jews is claimed to have happened at this certain time. Exposing other lies and deceptions about world war II, such as<br />
1.how many really died at Dresden<br />
2. Stalin&#8217;s aggressive plans that were thwarted by Barbarossa<br />
merely justify the right and duty to investigate wild holocaust claims.The holocaust is connected to world war II like these other things because that is precisely when they occurred.You say 9-11 and the holocaust are connected to perpetual war and slaughter of innocent in the middle east? There is a parallel with JFK. One of the reasons he was taken out is because he was opposed to Israeli dominance in the middle east and them having nuclear weaponry. JFK also wanted to stop the Vietnam war, a war in which Jewish technocrat Henry Kissinger was involved in prolonging.<br />
<a class="postlink elonw" title="Opens in new window" href="https://truthout.org/articles/millions-died-because-kissinger-prolonged-the-vietnam-war-for-years-after-betraying-peace-treaty/" rel="nofollow">https://truthout.org/articles/millions-died-because-kissinger-prolonged-the-vietnam-war-for-years-after-betraying-peace-treaty/</a>Other false flags like the Lavon Affair were to be used to demonize Arabs and justify further repression of them, ala, 9-11. So again I ask, why do we get selective with some false flags that are used to justify war and perpetual slaughter overseas, but not others? This is just me being devil&#8217;s advocate. I don&#8217;t care either way if we add a 9-11 forum. But if we are going to do it under the guise of destroying fables that are used to justify war and perpetual slaughter, then why not other false flags that have also been used for that? Where is the cut off?</div>
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<p>So here we are already turning this simple question into a 911 thread.</p>
<p>My answer is NO. I should explain that but won&#8217;t because whatever I say will invite the usuals from responding in detailed opinion again&#8230;</p>
<p>There are many good reasons for not hosting a 911 section here. Surely to God there must be hundreds of sites where the topic of 911 is tediously dissected by those who start from the wrong place in order to end up when they want to be.</p>
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<p>Agreed. It is completely off topic for this forum and would create the impression that to if you question the Holocaust you must automatically be a 911 &#8220;troofer&#8221;. Some posters may think there is a link but to make accepting a Revisionist approach to the Holocaust appear conditional on that link is a sure way to alienate most of our potential audience.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard enough already to get people to open their minds to asking questions about the Holocaust. This would be yet another reason for them not to take Revisionism seriously. &#8220;They&#8217;re just a bunch of conspiracy theorists.&#8221;</p>
<p>You persuade people one step at a time. Even limiting ourselves to the Holocaust we have to have to work step by step. First show the bodies at Belsen have nothing to do with it. Then maybe some doubts about Treblinka or Auschwitz or Babi Yar.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a slippery slope. Once we have a forum on 911, why not one on the Kennedy assassination, or the moon landings, or flying saucers, or evolution or the Abominable Snowman? Each one will muddy the waters further. We have widened the remit of the forum to cover other aspects of the two World Wars. This is good. They are closely and obviously related, and do not create the impression that to question the Holocaust you have to buy into some wider view of the world.</p>
<p>Please, don&#8217;t do it!</p>
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<p>That has always been my concern, alienating potential supporters of &#8220;holocaust&#8221; Revisionism is not acceptable for a CODOH site.<br />
But then, as stated by Callahan and JLAD, there is the potential of gaining new &#8220;holocaust&#8221; Revisionism supporters by attracting to CODOH those who debate 9/11.</p>
<p>I could simply add a notice at the the top of a 9/11 Forum making it clear that &#8220;holocaust&#8221; Revisionists are not all in agreement about the various arguments concerning 9/11. The mere fact that we will get &amp; allow competing views would hopefully make that obvious.</p>
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<p><cite>borjastick wrote:</cite>So here we are already turning this simple question into a 911 thread.</p>
<p>My answer is NO. I should explain that but won&#8217;t because whatever I say will invite the usuals from responding in detailed opinion again&#8230;</p>
<p>There are many good reasons for not hosting a 911 section here. Surely to God there must be hundreds of sites where the topic of 911 is tediously dissected by those who start from the wrong place in order to end up when they want to be.</p>
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<p>Offering a detailed analysis of the pros and cons of a 9/11 forum accessible through a Revisionist forum (the purpose of this thread) does not mean we are now debating 9/11 here.</p>
<p>I wanted to provide as much insight as possible on the matter as I think this is very important and it&#8217;s obvious others here feel the same. Your own incredulity and ignorance toward important elements of this topic, Borja, don&#8217;t refute its benefits for the cause we are all fighting for here; that is, exposing the greatest lies of the liars that manipulate the historical record to serve their warmongering political agenda.</p>
<p>Currently, the 9/11 forums that are out there do not typically permit or consider Revisionism, despite the fact that the recent growth of Revisionism can be directly attributed to growing awareness of certain details surrounding 9/11. By treating 9/11 as an entirely foreign topic relative to Revisionism, you&#8217;re preventing pathways that could very well lead here. As much as 9/11 bickering annoys you (and believe me, I understand why), I think there are ways we can limit that here in a properly-structured forum.</p>
<p>It is obvious that some of the &#8220;old school&#8221; folks here want to keep things the same but we should really consider the obvious benefits of reaching out to the 9/11 research community and showing the ways we can align.</p>
<p>Kingfisher says we can&#8217;t take on a separate forum for 9/11 because we might not be taken seriously&#8211;CODOH has been around for 20 years! At what point has the establishment and/or the mainstream ever &#8220;taken it seriously&#8221;?! The 9/11 truth movement has been taken at least as seriously as Revisionism, and it&#8217;s popularity among professionals in the establishment reflects that. Can you really not see the difference and applicable relevance between &#8216;moon landing fakery&#8217;, &#8216;flat earth&#8217;, etc., and 9/11?</p>
<p>The notion of a &#8220;slippery slope&#8221; is a logical fallacy. We aren&#8217;t going to degrade into oblivion if we have a discussion forum that allows 9/11 research to occur here. There will be no &#8220;official theory&#8221; of this 9/11 forum. We will acknowledge evidence, discuss parallels to Revisionism wherever applicable, and encourage visitors to also check out the Revisionist forum. We give it six months, and if all your worst fears come true, we cancel the project. What have you got to lose?</p>
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<p>&#8216;We don&#8217;t need evidence, we have survivors&#8217; &#8211; israeli politician</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m not a 9-11 Truther, but I know 1 or 2 prominent revisionists who are. I think we should have it because I think it&#8217;s always good if someone out there wants to say something about a taboo subject then they should be allowed to. I myself probably wouldn&#8217;t be participating on it.</p>
<p>But keep in mind how we should be grateful to those who run this forum. Because it must take significant time every day to moderate. You have to follow every thread, read maybe every post! Because of that, I&#8217;d like to see someone who is currently not a moderator, become a moderator so that the current people who volunteer without pay, to run this forum are not given extra work.</p>
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<p><cite>borjastick wrote:</cite>Kingfisher has explained very clearly above.</p>
<p>This is my last post here on the subject. Me and my &#8216;old school&#8217; mate Kingfisher have made our case.</p>
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<p>Nothing wrong with being old school and for the record I respect you guys for being in the game so long, I just think it might cloud your judgment on this.</p>
<p>Kingfisher explained that he is concerned consideration of Revisionism will appear conditional upon the acceptance of &#8220;9/11 truth&#8221; arguments. This need not be the case. It does not threaten the image of revisionists to acknowledge the following:</p>
<p>&#8211; There is intense controversy surrounding 9/11<br />
&#8211; There is some evidence of possibly-significant parallels between 9/11 and the Holocaust<br />
&#8211; There is a demand among many of those who embrace Revisionism to also discuss 9/11 (e.g. Rudolf, who addresses it briefly in his 2017 edition of Lectures&#8230;).</p>
<p>And as far as outreach goes, the pool of candidates potentially-interested in Revisionism is much larger among &#8220;conspiracy theorists&#8221; than it is among those who resent them. As much as we will have to try a bit harder to set some critical thinking &#8220;ground rules&#8221; for some of these &#8216;eccentric thinkers&#8217;, I think the benefits of reaching a much broader audience far outweighs any potential costs. And again, nothing is irreversible. If we try it out and it goes nowhere, backtracking is always a possibility. But considering that what lies beyond this door/bridge could be revolutionary, I think it&#8217;s worth a shot.</p>
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<p>This is my last post here on the subject. Me and my &#8216;old school&#8217; mate Kingfisher have made our case.</p>
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<p>Nothing wrong with being old school and for the record I respect you guys for being in the game so long, I just think it might cloud your judgment on this.</p>
<p>Kingfisher explained that he is concerned consideration of Revisionism will appear conditional upon the acceptance of &#8220;9/11 truth&#8221; arguments. This need not be the case. It does not threaten the image of revisionists to acknowledge the following:</p>
<p>&#8211; There is intense controversy surrounding 9/11<br />
&#8211; There is some evidence of possibly-significant parallels between 9/11 and the Holocaust<br />
&#8211; There is a demand among many of those who embrace Revisionism to also discuss 9/11 (e.g. Rudolf, who addresses it briefly in his 2017 edition of Lectures&#8230;).</p>
<p>And as far as outreach goes, the pool of candidates potentially-interested in Revisionism is much larger among &#8220;conspiracy theorists&#8221; than it is among those who resent them. As much as we will have to try a bit harder to set some critical thinking &#8220;ground rules&#8221; for some of these &#8216;eccentric thinkers&#8217;, I think the benefits of reaching a much broader audience far outweighs any potential costs. And again, nothing is irreversible. If we try it out and it goes nowhere, backtracking is always a possibility. But considering that what lies beyond this door/bridge could be revolutionary, I think it&#8217;s worth a shot.</p>
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<p>Someone, who is willing to seriously look at the arguments of holocaust revisionists, won&#8217;t be put off or back off because of a 9/11 subforum. 9/11 is kindergarden comparted to the holocaust and 9/11 truth is on the verge of becoming mainstream. This is my take.</p>
<p>Sure, the focus of this forum must remain on the open debate of the holocaust.</p>
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<p>I would say yes. 9/11 revisionism is trendy and more acceptable, yet has similar glaring plot holes. 9/11 is a shooting gallery, fish in a barrel, chutzpah writ large that aimed too high and paid the price. Why shouldn&#8217;t we use their other mistakes against them and bolster the destruction of holocaustianity? These people are criminals, murderers. Why separate their crimes?</p>
<p>Does a serial rapist get to avoid evidence presented to the jury for priors, simply because it would &#8216;dilute the discussion&#8217; of the current charge?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s high time 9/11 activists stepped up to the plate and out of their comfort zone. And with the quality of posters here we can damn well help them on their way.</p>
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<p>First off, a thank you to the Moderator for putting a 911 forum up for consideration.</p>
<p>Next off, I&#8217;m in the YES camp. &#8220;911 Discussion Makes You Free!&#8221;</p>
<p>As others here have indicated, 911 can be a great stepping stone towards moving more people into questioning the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221;. I quite agree with that, and I believe it will help CODOH in its core mission, and not detract from it, as some have expressed concern about.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; is the giant, rogue African bull elephant in the room, while 911 is like a baby rogue elephant in the room. The fact that there&#8217;s any kind of elephant in the room in the first place makes it invisible to most people, and the larger it is, the more invisible it becomes, because it just shouldn&#8217;t, couldn&#8217;t be there! Yet there they are, waiting to be seen by those with curiosity, desire for truth, and a nagging feeling that things are terribly wrong.</p>
<p>I came to know about the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; and the fraudulent nature of it because of the great work of the revisionists. Around the same time and in parallel to that I became aware of the fraudulent nature of 911. Yet I think most people find 911 truth far more approachable, after all, its just a rogue &#8220;baby elephant&#8221;. After that though, only a brave minority go on to open their eyes wider and see the bull elephant in the room.</p>
<p>A good example of that are the Schaefer siblings, that I have been following from the beginning. Alfred and Monika Schaefer came to &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; revisionism through 911. As Callahan, JLAD, and Dresden argue, there are strong similarities operating here. The culprits are the same, and both these major events fit in with an organized jewish agenda. 911 has launched the jewish War OF Terror on the world, while using the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; as a shield and sword to repel criticism.</p>
<p>So, I support CODOH giving a 911 forum a go.</p>
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<p>I am strongly opposed for the following reasons: Firstly, 9/11 is outside CODOH&#8217;s stated purpose. It is largely an American interest and CODOH is an international forum. It would expose participants to &#8220;guilt by association&#8221; without their permission.</p>
<p>Secondly, there are enough jihad attacks in Europe and around the world &#8211; hundreds, if not thousands every year &#8211; to make it plausible that a few Saudi Muslims would wish to damage the USA given the opportunity.</p>
<p>Thirdly, it would make CODOH look like a conspiracy site and thus compromise its hard-won and constantly challenged credibility on the holocaust. It would undo decades of work by serious people for the sake of appealing to a fringe element in the USA.</p>
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<div><cite>EtienneSC wrote:</cite>it would make CODOH look like a conspiracy site and thus compromise its hard-won and constantly challenged credibility on the holocaust. It would undo decades of work by serious people for the sake of appealing to a fringe element in the USA.</div>
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<p>The recent poll results I saw stated that 50% of Americans did not believe the &#8216;official&#8217; 9/11 conspiracy theory.<br />
&#8220;Fringe&#8217; is clearly the wrong word here.<br />
That number would suggest that CODOH could potentially attract a wider audience.</p>
<p>As far as CODOH itself is concerned, I suggest:</p>
<p><em>9/11: Terror Attack or Government Fraud?</em>, by Germar Rudolf:<br />
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<div><cite>EtienneSC wrote:</cite>I am strongly opposed for the following reasons: Firstly, 9/11 is outside CODOH&#8217;s stated purpose. It is largely an American interest and CODOH is an international forum. It would expose participants to &#8220;guilt by association&#8221; without their permission.</div>
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<p>I think such a forum would only acknowledge that many of those who embrace Revisionism also find this topic to be a major and relevant concern. It would be the error of the accusers to claim that all those who visit the CODOH forum are also necessarily supportive of alternative 9/11 theories for several reasons:</p>
<p>&#8211; As this thread clearly shows, we already do <em>not</em> agree what happened; hence, discussion and defense of the established narrative will be encouraged as well as any others<br />
&#8211; Discussions of 9/11 will all take place outside of the Revisionist forum (which will be left as-is)<br />
&#8211; The intentions of having this forum will be stated clearly, which may include: to circumvent censorship attempts and welcome historically-enlightened minds into open debate for the second-most controversial historical event of the last century, which is said by many to have considerable parallels to the Holocaust</p>
<p>Also, while 9/11 is an event which took place in the US, it affects communities all around the world (e.g. War on Terror, which also brought European nations in to participate in the Al Qaeda witch hunt and militant occupations); much as the Holocaust, while set in Europe, affects policies which shape the US and much of the globe today.</p>
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<div>Secondly, there are enough jihad attacks in Europe and around the world &#8211; hundreds, if not thousands every year &#8211; to make it plausible that a few Saudi Muslims would wish to damage the USA given the opportunity.</div>
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<p>It is definitely possible. But keep in mind, these attacks mostly happened after 9/11. Iraq had never had a suicide bombing pre-9/11. In any case, this might be something worth discussing in the proper forum.</p>
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<div>Thirdly, it would make CODOH look like a conspiracy site and thus compromise its hard-won and constantly challenged credibility on the holocaust. It would undo decades of work by serious people for the sake of appealing to a fringe element in the USA.</div>
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<p>Holocaust Denial is considered much more of a fringe element than is having doubts about 9/11. Surveys have already shown that the majority of the population, both in the US and internationally, have doubts about the official version of events. If nothing more, it is worth discussing. And I can think of no better place than in close proximity to a forum of critical minds who have a proper understanding of historical events and context of the last century.</p>
<p>I do not see how this would/could plausibly &#8220;undo&#8221; Revisionist work. The books and articles are written, published, and relevant ideas are discussed and shared in this forum. This will remain to be the case, whether or not 9/11 is also discussed here. It should not &#8220;poison the well&#8221; for many who don&#8217;t already regard &#8220;Holocaust Denial&#8221; as extremely poisonous. But it will open the door for many critical minds who are missing an even larger piece of the historical puzzle.</p>
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<div><cite>HeiligeSturm wrote:</cite>If 9/11 debate is considered, there should be a whole After the &#8220;Holocaust&#8221; sub forum.</div>
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<p>Would that include the Korean War, the McCarthey era, the Beatnik g-g-g-generation, the Hippie movement and a thousand other things?</p>
<p>What purpose would that serve, besides trivial pursuit?</p>
<p>9-11 and the Holohoax are closely related, or, as I said earlier &#8230;.. &#8220;they are joined at the hip&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8216;Gas chambers&#8217; and &#8216;box cutters&#8217; are what &#8220;justifies&#8221; the War of Terror. or, as they are alternatively known, &#8220;The 9-11 Wars&#8221;.</p>
<p>In such a Forum, there would be a lot of overlap and people from both sides would become convinced of the truth of the other subject.</p>
<p>Also, the people that are against having a 9-11 Forum could simply ignore it, like I ignore the</p>
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<p>&#8220;WWII Asia/Pacific Theater&#8221; <a class="postlink-local" href="https://forum.codoh.com/viewforum.php?f=26">viewforum.php?f=26</a></p>
<p>and the</p>
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<p>The moment CODOH allows or enables such discussion, it is done. This applies whether one believes in the alternative 9/11 theory (which I currently do not) or whether they do.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s essentially the case.</p>
<p>It will, as it is in every other forum, be used against revisionism in order to make it seem absurd and dismissed without looking at it.</p>
<p>An opinion.</p>
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<p>While it is easy to pinpoint what revisionists believe because we are pretty much united in denying the same things&#8230;</p>
<p>1. All Auschwitz gas chambers.<br />
2. Overall German/Berlin/Hitler plan to physically exterminate Jews.<br />
3. Gas vans.<br />
4. All AR gas chambers<br />
5. Many so called Mengele survivors</p>
<p>In other words, each revisionist owns this aspect of revisionism and does so easily. If there are any revisionists that we castigate, it&#8217;s not because they make us look bad with their revisionism. It is because they are traitors to the cause. Mark Weber and David Irving are two examples of gas chamber turncoats. They don&#8217;t make us look bad or hurt us necessarily, they are just dead weight. I also think that most revisionists recognize that whatever Richard Krege allegedly did at Treblinka doesn&#8217;t help anyone so by and large we all reject his work in favour of better, more high quality revisionism.</p>
<p>That being said, in 9-11, you have a WIDE VARIETY of skeptics who are at war with each other and accuse other sides of being agents or stupid by planting certain false theories into the 9-11 field. Many say that those buildings were wired to be blown up instead of planes coming down. Others go WAAAYYYY far out and claim that the reason much of the concrete was pulverized, was because of something like a high powered laser beam. I&#8217;m thinking Judy Wood. The majority of 9-11 people don&#8217;t like her or her work and have suspected her of being an agent. Not to mention Alex Jones in the last few years has gotten more bizarre and animated and people use his strange behaviours to &#8220;discredit&#8221; 9-11 truth. Mind you he is not the only one to look into 9-11 since it happened, but others use that as a smear on 9-11 people.</p>
<p>If revisionists pick up 9-11, do they want to adopt this other burden of being someone who could be in the &#8220;crazy&#8221; or &#8220;bullshit&#8221; realm of 9-11 truth? They already have to deal with being a gas chamber denier. I think in these times, it is PARAMOUNT that avoiding 9-11 be considered just to avoid further smears. Such as &#8220;oh you gas chamber skeptics are also 9-11 skeptics? Is there anything you DO believe in?&#8221; Because what if non 9-11 skeptics wanted to consider holocaust revisionism? Is the point not to grow revisionism? Or does linking up to 9-11 really look like more of an advantage because allegedly more people are 9-11 skeptics nowadays than are not and they can be persuaded by revisionism?</p>
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<div><cite>Hoff Meister wrote:</cite>The moment CODOH allows or enables such discussion, it is done. This applies whether one believes in the alternative 9/11 theory (which I currently do not) or whether they do.</div>
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<p>How would CODOH be &#8220;done&#8221; just by acknowledging a controversy having some <em>possible</em> relevance to the Holocaust?</p>
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<div>It will, as it is in every other forum, be used against revisionism in order to make it seem absurd and dismissed without looking at it.</div>
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<p>How many people <em>who don&#8217;t already dismiss Revisionism (or aren&#8217;t likely to)</em> would do so on account of a forum about 9/11 existing here as an auxiliary? On the other hand, how many establishment-critical minds might consider Revisionism if they found some quality discussion on 9/11, locally?</p>
<p>I would estimate the numbers for the latter are at least an order of magnitude higher than the former.</p>
<p>No specific theory need be endorsed here. This is merely an opportunity to iron out the questions of relevance between these events which many have claimed there are striking parallels. Since it isn&#8217;t possible to contain such a broad topic within a single thread on the Revisionists&#8217; forum, a separate one is being created to isolate, identify, and hopefully/eventually work toward some degree of consensus in what Revisionists have to say on the matter.</p>
<p>I think it makes beautiful sense and I have confidence in the quality of discussions that might come out of this.</p>
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<div class="content">I say no. This is a Holocaust revisionist forum, so I think it should be limited to only the Holocaust and to a lesser extent, World War II revisionism. There is a plethora of forums on the internet for debating 9/11 &#8211; why not just simply go to one if you want to debate 9/11? I see more harm than benefits by having 9/11 discussed here. It will create the appearance that Holocaust revisionists are susceptible to conspiracy theories, thereby undermining credibility. I&#8217;ve always had more confidence in revisionists who are not 9/11 truthers than ones who are.</div>
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<p><strong>&#8220;I say no. This is a Holocaust revisionist forum, so I think it should be limited to only the Holocaust and to a lesser extent, World War II revisionism&#8221;<br />
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But, there are the WWI Forum and the WWII Asia/Pacific Forums that are unaffected by &#8220;Holocaust Denial&#8221; &#8212; nor do they affect the Holocaust Revisionist Forum.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;There is a plethora of forums on the internet for debating 9/11&#8221;<br />
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There are no intelligent, moderated forums on which to debate 9-11.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;I see more harm than benefits by having 9/11 discussed here. It will create the appearance that Holocaust revisionists are susceptible to conspiracy theories&#8221;<br />
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&#8220;Holocaust Denial&#8221; is universally seen, throughout the whole world, on every TV station, in countless &#8220;documentaries&#8221;, in school text books &#8230;.. EVERYWHERE &#8230;.. as the Great granddaddy of all &#8220;conspiracy theories&#8221;.</p>
<p>We are seen as neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, anti &#8212; &#8220;semites&#8221; and dangerous people.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;&#8230;thereby undermining credibility&#8221;<br />
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The 9-11 Truthers outnumber Holocaust Revisionists by at least 10 or 20 to 1.<br />
If anyone was to lose credibility, it would be the 9-11 Truthers for embracing Holocaust Denial.</p>
<p>Richard Gage&#8217;s Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth( <a class="postlink elonw" title="Opens in new window" href="https://www.ae911truth.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ae911truth.org/</a> ) has the signatures of over 3,000 Architects and Engineers(many of whom own their own companies) who have given their names, addresses, phone numbers and places of business, calling for a &#8220;new&#8221; investigation of 9-11.</p>
<p>Nothing remotely comparable can be said for Holocaust Revisionism.</p>
<p>The Physics department of the University of Fairbanks, Alaska recently finished an evaluation of the collapse of Building 7 and decided that it could not have come down due to fire or damage: <a class="postlink elonw" title="Opens in new window" href="http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wtc7evaluation.org/</a></p>
<p>To think that the physics, or chemistry department of any American University would even contemplate doing an unbiased, tranparent evaluation of Treblinka, or Auschwitz is simply out of the question, to put it as mildly as possible &#8230;.. it would actually border on &#8220;nutty&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;I&#8217;ve always had more confidence in revisionists who are not 9/11 truthers than ones who are&#8221;<br />
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I am of the exact opposite opinion.</p>
<p>9-11 Truthers are already Politically Incorrect truth seekers &#8230;.. many of them would see the truth of Holocaust Revisionism.</p>
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<div><cite>Dresden wrote:</cite>Richard Gage&#8217;s Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth( <a class="postlink elonw" title="Opens in new window" href="https://www.ae911truth.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ae911truth.org/</a> ) has the signatures of over 3,000 Architects and Engineers(many of whom own their own companies) who have given their names, addresses, phone numbers and places of business, calling for a &#8220;new&#8221; investigation of 9-11.</div>
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<p>I have my own quibbles with AE911T but that discussion is best saved for the proper forum, once it becomes available. I think they are correct that fire should not have caused the collapse but I disagree with the notion of &#8220;controlled demolition&#8221; at the WTC.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to discuss/debate it here, just pointing out that there is a spectrum of ideas on what happened and having the ability to showcase our ideas and have them challenged and refined by other informed, critical minds who may already be on the same page about Revisionism seems like a great opportunity.</p>
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<p>Exactly. There is less fear to walk into the &#8220;realm of Revisionism&#8221; when society already sees you as being halfway there. For those recognizing Zionist influences regarding 9/11, even moreso.</p>
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<p>Exactly, we need a separate sub-forum to hash out our differences, and this is the perfect place to do it.</p>
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<p>All of the comments are certainly appreciated, there are many thoughtful points to both sides of the argument.</p>
<p>After considering them all, and after feedback from the CODOH Board, I have decided to go ahead with the &#8216;9/11 Forum&#8217;.</p>
<p>The fact that so many people worldwide now disagree with the &#8216;official&#8217; conspiracy theory was key in that decision. It is no longer a &#8216;fringe&#8217; opinion to question the promoted narrative, in spite of &#8216;the media&#8217;s&#8217; attempt to claim it is.</p>
<p>To those that disagree with my decision, I will not indicate in the &#8216;9/11 Forum&#8217; description and guidelines that CODOH as a whole endorses or opposes the alternative views to the government&#8217;s narrative.</p>
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<p>Thank you for the decision, <strong>Moderator</strong>!</p>
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<p>After considering them all, and after feedback from the CODOH Board, I have decided to go ahead with the &#8216;9/11 Forum&#8217;. &#8230;</p>
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<p>Great news and smart decision. If this forum provides an orderly and rational discussion of 9/11 then it may attract many 9/11 truthers who wish to discuss controversial topics in a polite, respectful and rational manner without flame wars, ad hominem attacks, and all that.</p>
<p>Currently, this forum has three main headings: &#8220;Holocaust revisionism (English)&#8221;, &#8220;Holocaust revisionism (International)&#8221; and Finally, &#8220;Revisionism&#8221;. I suggest adding the subforum &#8220;9/11-revisionism&#8221; under the &#8220;Revisionism&#8221; header and side by side with WWI and WWII revisionism. This would fit nicely into this forum.</p>
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<p>Thank you Moderator for deciding to go ahead with a 9/11 Forum. A decision that reflects your wisdom, and no doubt your good looks, charming nature, and wonderful singing ability!</p>
<p>And thanks to Callahan for kicking the whole thing off, and also others here who also supported the idea. The others who were not keen on the idea also played a useful role in giving their feedback.</p>
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<p>If I may ask, when should we expect to see it in it&#8217;s completed status?</p>
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<p>As mentioned briefly before, I suggest pinned posts for presentation and criticism of evidence of the following theories on WTC collapse mechanisms:</p>
<p>&#8211; NIST Fire-Driven Collapse Theory<br />
&#8211; AE911Truth Controlled Demolition Theory<br />
&#8211; Mini-Nuke Theory<br />
&#8211; Direct Energy Weapon (DEW) Theory<br />
&#8211; ROOSD Theory</p>
<p>I think a separate area for each of the major competing theories will help prevent the hodgepodge of heated, disorganized debate that discussions on 9/11 are most famous for.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not yet familiar with ROOSD theory, not to worry, I will help get us started there. Others who recognize another theory as most sound should perhaps introduce the topic by explaining which evidence they find most convincing.</p>
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<p>&#8211; Motive: Pretext for Zionist Imperialist Wars<br />
&#8211; Motive: Jihadi Terror Assault on Western Values<br />
&#8211; Means: Positions of Authority Surrounding 9/11 Events<br />
&#8211; Means: Terrorist Cell with Hijacked Planes</p>
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<p>When the new thread starts I&#8217;ll be waiting for the loons to come out to play, posting all manner of nonsense to claim this and that and completely ignoring the rational and scientific answers to what really happened on that day.</p>
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<p><cite>borjastick wrote:</cite>OK then the decision has been made so can we block this thread now please as it&#8217;s lowering the tone of holocaust debate.</p>
<p>When the new thread starts I&#8217;ll be waiting for the loons to come out to play, posting all manner of nonsense to claim this and that and completely ignoring the rational and scientific answers to what really happened on that day.</p>
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<p>Good luck with that one&#8230;</p>
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<p>&#8220;On Monday, New Year’s Eve, a hacker group announced it had breached a law firm handling cases related to the September 11 attacks, and threatened to publicly release a large cache of related internal files unless their ransom demands were met.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Awesome, thank you.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2015/07/09/911-the-jews-had-me-fooled-a-jewish-engineered-pearl-harbor/" rel="bookmark">911 – The Jews Had Me Fooled: A Jewish Engineered Pearl Harbor</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/09/11/organized-jewry-did-911/" rel="bookmark">Organized jewry Did 9/11</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/09/11/organized-jewry-did-911-the-16th-anniversary-2017/" rel="bookmark">Organized jewry Did 9/11 — The 16th Anniversary, 2017</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/09/11/know-more-news-christopher-bollyn-the-man-who-solved-9-11-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Know More News — Christopher Bollyn, The Man Who Solved 9/11 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/09/23/the-realist-report-with-christopher-bollyn-sep-2018-transcript/"><span style="color:#0000ff;">The Realist Report with Christopher Bollyn – Sep 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</span></a></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">[<strong>Brian Ruhe</strong> from &#8220;<strong><em>The Brian Ruhe Show</em></strong>&#8221; interviews (Nov 15, 2018) <strong>Monika Schaefer</strong> in her first appearance since being released from a German prison, after serving 10 months for a five-minute YouTube video, in which she gave a belated apology to her German mother for berating her for not doing something about the &#8220;<em>Holocaust</em>&#8220;, that Monika has since realized, factually never happened.<br />
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;">They discuss her arrest and first days in prison, the pre-trial events, the trial, life in prison, her release, and her fleeing the country by train to avoid possible re-arrest on new charges. She ends by expressing her gratitude to all that supported her during this ordeal, and the need to continue fighting.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Welcome to the Brian Ruhe Show. It’s August. Sorry it’s November the 15th 2018. My guest is Monika Schaefer! This is her first public appearance after leaving prison in Germany so it’s a huge honor to have you on the show Monika! We want to hear your experience. Welcome to the show!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika</strong>: Thank you Brian. Oh my goodness! This is hard to believe, and it’s amazing that I’m talking to the world now!</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you! I guess where I want to start is to thank all the people who wrote to me and were active on my behalf, and actually on behalf of all free men and women, really. Because, as somebody has wisely has said:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So it wasn’t just about me being in prison, because really why was I in prison for telling the truth? Political prisoner! So it’s not about me, it’s about all of us. But I really want to say thank you to all the people who wrote. I tried my best to write back. I don’t think I kept up all the time. And it also could very well be that some letters did not make it to their destination. I know that is the case from some specific people who, you know, told me certain letters didn’t get through. But anyway, I just wanted to first start with that appreciation. It was my lifeline while I was in prison. It really was!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I mean, the first few weeks I had absolutely no contact with anybody via a phone call, by a visitor, nothing! It’s like I went into a deep, dark, hole and I just had no idea, you know, when and how I was gonna get out of this deep, dark, hole! And so, actually my very first contact was from the Canadian Consulate in Munich, or I’ll say Munich for the English-speaking world, but that’s where I was, in prison for the last ten months. So they came, and I didn’t know who was coming. The guards just said:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I didn’t think it was anybody in my family. I thought it might be a lawyer, but it wasn’t. It was the Consulate.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah I’ll just fast-forward to today.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Because I finally got my phone hooked up today. It took a long time, and</span> <span style="color:#008000;">[getting the]</span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Internet, and that’s why we’re able to talk right now. I was still cut off even after I got home. I went to the library and used Wi-Fi there, and that kind of thing. But I felt very much cut off still.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But anyway, by total coincidence, this morning, the phone rang and I looked at this thing like it was, you know, a thing from outer space, because it was disconnected, and I didn’t even know it was connected yet., because they said a technician would come to my home today to connect it. Nobody had come yet. Suddenly the phone rings, fully expecting it was the phone company. No! It was Ottawa! It was the Global Affairs like the people who are connected with the embassies. In other words, the Canadian representative.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, he called, he was the one who dealt with my “<em>file</em>” here in Canada, while the people in Munich were dealing with my “<em>file</em>” there. And they had tried a few times — obviously not gotten through, because my phone hadn’t been hooked up yet — but to close the file basically. To see if I’m home, safe and sound. And I thought that rather ironic and interesting that they were checking to see that I was safe and sound! , because Ottawa — in other words, the government, or somebody — forbade the German Consulate in Munich to attend trial. They would have liked to attend the trial. They were forbidden to attend the trial!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well not just were they not helping my case, they were obstructing! People who might go to see that I was getting a fair hearing. And, of course, I understand —they told me early on that they do not interfere in the laws of the land — I understand that. That’s not the job of the consulate<strong>.</strong> However, their job is to see that, first of all, I’m being treated well, and also to see that I’m getting a fair hearing. So anyway, that was kind of full circle. That all, you know, came today, to close the file on me.</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">they couldn’t wash their hands like a</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah! Yeah, so I guess on that note of this being a very political trial, a political case, a political incarceration, and I just talked about Ottawa forbidding the consulate to attend. So, having been released just three weeks ago tomorrow, I thought it would be nice to spend a few weeks, or at least a few days, in Germany, after I was released, to visit with relatives.</span> <span style="color:#008000;">[adjusting her camera]</span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">it’s the other way? No like this?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">This was several sources, giving me the indication that it’s, time to get out. I had to flee. So I went from being ten months in a prison cell, where basically I have no power over decision-making for day-to-day life. Right? I mean, it’s not like I left my brain behind. Like I didn’t put my brain to sleep, I used all my faculties, and I worked hard, and I was very disciplined at staying active, mentally and physically, and every which way. I was really trying to stay alert and active. However when it comes to the day-to-day decision-making, you have no power, nothing! You know, they set the schedule and you’re basically at their disposal. They’ve got the key and they turn it when they feel like turning it. And you’re on a very, very strict tight schedule.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So I went from that for 10 months <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling] </strong></span>to suddenly having to flee! And being basically thrown out into the world and having to make my way home. And I’m telling you, it was a little bit more excitement than I cared for!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> I would say that for several days, hour after hour, after hour, and through the night, I was travelling by trains to get out of Germany and not fly from Germany. That was the advice also. I was just on a really high level of tension. And I don’t know what you could call it. I guess probably there was adrenaline coursing through my body. But I don’t know adrenaline is just a really fast thing, you know, fight-or-flight. But it felt like I was in the flight mode for hour, after hour, after hour! It was, yeah, it was extreme, I have to say!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> I was alone traveling. I started out with a family member, the very first leg. Then basically eight trains later I was at an airport in another country. And then I could buy a ticket like walking up to a bus ticket counter, except that this was to get on an airplane. And so I flew back to Canada.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So, I was very fortunate in that I had support, in terms of, I had money in my pocket. I mean, I had to have money in my pocket. I didn’t have any of, &#8230; The money stayed in a prison. Right now it’s still there, because I got released on a Friday night some they said they were sending you money to buy stamps and things like that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh yes! And I also want to say thank you so much to all the people who did send donations. All those 5, and 10, and 20 Euro donations. So they would put that into the account there. But there’s now still money there. Hopefully my lawyer will be able to get it out. I did send him a, you know, like a power of attorney thing, just to be able to do that. And there were foreign currencies amounts, as well. And checks which they would have just handed to me if I had been able to pick those up. But I had to flee! I did go back to the jail on the Saturday. That was kind of even, that was risky. My lawyer didn’t really want me to do that. I was released on Friday.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> It sounds terrible! Like why is it risky? They released you from prison legally, what, why is it so risky? Or can’t you tell us?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Very good question! This brings us to the core of the German court system. The German so-called “<em>justice</em>” system. You cannot defend yourself in a German court of law, because if you defend yourself, by speaking about the very things that you are in prison for, well then you are doing a “<em>new</em>” crime! Like the thing that they call a “<em>crime</em>”, the politically incorrect speech, whatever it is that they threw you in there for like what they threw me in for, was just for speaking, peaceful expression. Never did violence. Never promoted violence. Never did anything like that! Just peacefully talking about how I see the events of World War Two. And they are very different from what we have been taught. So if we defend ourselves in court by talking about those things we do “<em>new</em>” crime in their eyes! Like do you see the, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Wow! It’s Orwellian!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It’s bizarre! It is completely bizarre! So in the last word, so the prisoner, the defendant gets the last word, “<em>das letzte Wort</em>”. So I gave a quite a long speech, almost four hours. And I studiously actually avoided the taboo “<em>H</em>” subject</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Holocaust/Holohoax]</strong></span><span style="color:#0000ff;">, you know,</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">this taboo subject! But, the context — and we all know what happened to Sylvia Stolz — and she has been, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> You can tell the audience though, tell the audience what happened to <strong>Sylvia Stolz</strong>.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes. Well, she did spend time in jail. She was the attorney for Ernst Zundel, years ago in Germany. And did her job “<em>too well</em>”, and she was thrown into jail for almost three and a half years. So she spent three and a half years in jail and then barred from carrying on her profession, as a lawyer. And then sometime later, she was in Switzerland, gave a talk there. And it was on the subject of “<em>freedom of speech</em>”. And she didn’t say the “<em>H</em>” word, and I’m talking about the “<em>Holocaust</em>” word. She didn’t say it once in her whole speech, and yet when she came back to Germany she was charged for that speech!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>See post:</strong><a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2014/08/10/sylvia-stolz-lawyer-who-was-jailed-for-presenting-evidence-in-the-zundel-trial/" rel="next">Sylvia Stolz – Lawyer Who Was Jailed for Presenting Evidence in the Zundel Trial</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Again, this 130, the law, or the statute 130, paragraph 130, is the law that says — it doesn’t actually say the word “<em>Holocaust</em>” — and it’s very, very vague. You can hardly, you can’t really put your fingers on what that law says. It’s very vague, but it has to be. If you’re defending lies with laws, you have to be vague, so that you can interpret these things however they want to interpret these things. So you don’t really know what you’re allowed to say, or not allowed to say.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But anyway, so she was charged with, again this thing called the “<em>Holocaust</em>”, denying it, but really like it’s not even in the law, but just in the context of her speech, they’re saying. And sentenced to a year and a half prison time. She’s not in prison, it’s going through appeals process and that kind of thing.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Nevertheless, so this is how they have obviously interpreted my final speech, because the prosecutor was taking copious notes while I was talking. And she would have no reason to take copious notes while I was making my “<em>last word</em>”, if she didn’t have a reason for taking copious notes, and recharging me.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> That sounds scary!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> So it is bizarre! I mean, it’s like you go down this strange hole. I don’t know, people compare it to Alice in Wonderland, or something like that. But it is completely Kafkaesque, or Orwellian. I mean, the verdict comes first, then they do the trial. The sentence really comes first then they, &#8230; You know, the whole thing is just upside down! It’s inverted! The whole thing is inverted. So going back to, &#8230; Okay I went from prisoner to fugitive — I had to flee. And I did get indications from several sources. One was my lawyer. He was the first one to say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Look, don’t have a heart attack but you should leave as soon as possible.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[15:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I did have to go back to get my violin. And I wasn’t going to leave without my violin. And that was still in the prison. So we did go back to the prison the next morning, on the Saturday, and all went well and smoothly there. I got the things out, but couldn’t get the money out, as I said. We’ll try to do that. But anyway, that’s not a big important thing right now. I had to leave, that was much more important. And I did get my violin, and that was really important! I was not going to go without that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#333333;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yes people are wondering, what would have happened if like, &#8230; Frida was Alfred’s wife, I guess you were staying at your brother’s wife’s place. What would have happened if you stayed?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, we could have had a knock on the door, any time. They could have come on a Sunday afternoon, that doesn’t matter to them. So, I had to leave. And yeah, that was that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anyway, just speaking of everything being upside down and inverted, I have to say that after every single trial day, so the next day after trial days, when I would see my fellow prisoners, I would be jubilantly telling them how every day in court they are proving to us over and over again how the truth lies on our side! The truth and everything that is right, really. Like they are proving it over and over again to us how they are just defending lies! Because they’re behaving in bizarre ways in the court. And I can talk a little bit more about that in a moment.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But, what I found striking, was that at the very end, when the verdict was being given, &#8230; And there wasn’t all that much time after the my last word, though we had a recess for about 40 minutes, then were called back up into the into the courtroom to receive the verdict. And the verdict was 10 months for me, which I had already served, and 3 years to months for Alfred. So he’s going to be in there for a long time, plus he has more charges pending. So there’s a, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, that’s so sad. That’s really heavy on our hearts, Alfred.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> So, of course, it was mixed for me, you know, I’m being released right away, but, there’s my brother, he’s going in for a long run. So, of course, it was mixed for me. It was just extremely sad! But anyway, what the judge then said for the next 45 minutes, or so, he’s giving as his talk. I think it was maybe close to an hour. And he basically says that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Every single day we proved, over and over again, what haters we are!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh! I’m sure he probably knows you’re telling the truth! Oh! It’s his job.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, I’d like to compare this judge, with the judge at the end of the Ernst Zündel trial in Germany. There was the Canadian, different court cases, but the one that happened in Germany which then subsequently landed him five more years in jail, after he had spent two years in solitary confinement in a Canadian jail.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But the judge at the end of that trial said something very interesting. And in this case, I would say that, yes, he knew exactly what the truth is. And the judge took a big chance saying this, really. I think it was quite a courageous thing to say, but he still did the wrong thing! But the judge said at that time said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>You know, it doesn’t matter if the </em><em>Holocaust</em><em> happened, or not! It’s against the law in Germany to say it didn’t happen. And you broke the law!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And five years in jail for breaking it, them, by the way.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-drawings-of-his-cell-ernst-zundel.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19598" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-drawings-of-his-cell-ernst-zundel.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="716" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Wow!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Ernst Zundel got the maximum, and he did not get let out, not even one day early, as my understanding of it. He sat to the very last day. And that’s very unusual. People get out usually on two-thirds, or whatever, especially if they’re well behaved. And my understanding of it was that Ernst Zündel was exemplary in his behavior in prison. The guards liked him. So anyway, that judge was quite different than this judge. This judge in our case basically just told us that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>We proved every single day, what ‘haters’ we are!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Which was the most bizarre thing I’ve ever heard!</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[loud laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">And like I said, I was jubilantly telling my fellow prisoners, how:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Every single day they’re proving how they’re just defending lies!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">They’re doing bizarre things. They’re not allowing evidence into court. They’re not allowing anything! Any of the request for proof, request for evidence, that we were submitting, that Alfred was submitting, or that I was submitting through my lawyer, or through his lawyer, or himself. They were just denying it! Just denying it, denying it!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>No! We don’t need that! We don’t need that!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And they were also misinterpreting what was being requested, over and over, and over again. So it really was quite bizarre in that regard.</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[20:29]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> These German courts they don’t actually keep notes. Like in the Canadian courts there would be a stenographer writing everything down, but they don’t do that in German courts, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> That was something that I absolutely, &#8230; It just took my breath away! I found that out on the first day. I’m looking around and I’m trying to figure out where’s the recording device. And I’m also looking around, where’s the stenographer? Where’s the person who’s busily typing away?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Because I’ve been in a Canadian courtroom and there’s an audio, they have a clock running when court is running, and you can see that there’s a recording being made. And they also have somebody typing away, typing away, typing away the whole time. And then they can compare the audio with the typed version. And then in that way afterwards, if you’re going in for an appeal, or whatever, you can get a transcript, or it’s just on the record! It’s on the record.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">In the German court of law, it is not on the record! Nothing is being recorded! There’s no stenographer. It is very much like you’re going into a secret trial.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Also, I’ll tell you about that first day. You may, some of you, or some of the listeners, may have heard about this, because it was written about. There was a beautiful microphone system, so every everybody, like all the defendants lawyers, the prosecutors, the judges, everybody has a microphone in front of them. But you couldn’t turn them on! And people in the public gallery they were saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>We can’t hear it.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Well the judge didn’t care about that. The judge would say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>I don’t care!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Just shut up out there! We don’t want an interference from the public gallery.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And this is going on, and I was protesting. I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Why can’t we have the microphones? They’re here. Why can’t we have the system be turned on?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Finally, I just stood up out of my chair and spoke. And this was kind of stepping out of line, because you kind of, you know, I just stood up and I just said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Look, is this a public, &#8230; Is this open to the public, or is it not open to the public? Is this trial a public thing, or not? , or is it a secret trial, behind closed doors? , because if nobody in the public can hear, then what my brother has been commenting about it being an ‘Inquisition’, or a ‘Muppet Show’, then he’s right! If they are there just for decoration, all the people in the public gallery, they can’t hear, and the judge does not care if they can hear, then it really is just for show! And this is just a show!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And double that with the fact that nothing’s being recorded, nothing’s being written down, nothing’s being audio recorded, where are we? Like what is this? This is the darkest, darkest age that we’re in! This is in Germany, the country where Angela Merkel says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>This is the freest country ever on German soil!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">We have the freest, you know, the best, whatever she has said, I don’t know the exact words. But that is what she says.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Well, free for migrants from Africa, I guess? Maybe that’s what she meant?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah! I guess so. And then, just on this subject of sort of pseudo secret trial really, because all these things that I’m telling you about, makes you feel like it’s a secret trial. So on that subject, sometime later — it was a number of days later a different trial date — somebody stood up from the gallery — actually it was Sylvia Stolz — and said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>You know, they have taken away our pens and paper.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And so the judge said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Yeah. You can’t write along.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">You cannot, sort of write along with, taking notes, this would be okay, but you can’t write like, if people can do shorthand, or whatever. You can’t be doing that here. She says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well they’ve taken away all of our pens and papers, so we can’t even take notes even on the breaks. We can’t even take notes from our memory on the breaks. What’s going on here?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the judge was just gonna go with that, but my lawyer stood up and made a complaint about this. And there’s a law to back him up, that you cannot do this. Finally, after a short recess, the judges — and there’s four judges, by the way, two of them are career judges, and two of them are lay judges, like here you would have jury, but there it’s not a jury. You call them “<em>Schöffen</em>”, and it’s lay judges. Just people from the public.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[25:11]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So anyway, these four judges they go and do their recess and they talk about these things, and then they come back and said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Okay, yep! You can have your paper and pen, but you cannot be, &#8230;</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I don’t know how you would say that. In German you say “<em>mitschreiben</em>”. So to write word-for-word, what’s going on. Well people can’t really keep up with that anyway. But yeah, so, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> I was getting notes from <strong>Lady Michele Renouf</strong>. She wasn’t there herself, but someone would come and relate the events and she would write it and have it published on the Barnes Review. So she was giving us a good sense of the pulse of the court, so we were really relying on her reports.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-lady-michele-renouf.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19610" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-lady-michele-renouf.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="719" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, that’s great., because after that, people could write and take notes again. But you see, that just shows you another element of how bizarre it was. You know, you’ve got the judges if they had their way, nobody could write, except for the press gallery. Now who’s in the front row of the public gallery, it’s the press people, and they ‘re taking notes. But are those our friends? Are they going to be reporting this with no bias? They’re with the mainstream media, so we kind of know what the mainstream media, how they report, it’s not exactly with no bias, right? <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s how things were going, but in the end, okay people were able to take notes and that’s what we, the world, had to count on that. But I know I had people write to me and say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee, it’s all gone quiet out there. We’re not hearing anything. What’s going on?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And, I don’t know how easy it was for people to find these reports.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah. I guess it was more of an email exchange to people that I know. I know that the <strong><em>National Post</em></strong> in Canada did a story. And the <strong>Ontario Civil Liberties Union</strong> spoke up for you and that was quoted in the <strong><em>National Post </em></strong>in Canada, but not much media coverage. Certainly not what it deserved.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-jasper-welcome-home-monika-ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19703" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-jasper-welcome-home-monika-ver-2.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="703" /></a><span style="color:#008000;">Welcome home Monika! [Click image to enlarge]</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, so anyway I’ll just check. I took some notes for myself to see what else I wanted to talk about. The fact that it was such a political case and the last word. So, you know, I had this notion that while I was in prison I was thinking, okay the local people in Jasper, how are they gonna respond to this? Surely, they must be thinking to themselves:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee! I might not agree with what she’s saying, maybe she’s crazy, or whatever. I don’t agree with her, but put her in jail, just for that?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I was thinking that this is how people would, you know, their thought process:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Put her in jail just for speaking? Wow, maybe we should look into this?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like this is me thinking, <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling] </strong></span>maybe we should look into this and that they would discover alternative sources of information. And that they would discover that hey, you know:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee! Maybe Monika is talking about some truth after all!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But, when I first came back into this town, I’m telling you, I did not get that impression, not right off the bat, anyway. It was just like the hostility from a lot of the people here is such that I felt like:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Hey! It’s gotten worse!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">They feel vindicated in their treatment, you know, the ritual defamation I was experiencing for a year and a half, before I went to Germany for this little visit — which got unceremoniously extended by the German government — it was meant to be just a visit over Christmas. And anyway, it’s like they were vindicated:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Yeah look! She was thrown in jail! She must be a really bad person! We were right!</em>” <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Wasn’t ten months enough? You did 10 months, can’t they be nice to you now? They weren’t nice before.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, it’s funny. Some people talk about this thing of “<em>forgiveness</em>”, but I’m saying “<em>forgiving</em>” what? Like that notion itself, that’s still assuming that I did something wrong! I mean, some friends and acquaintances have said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee, why can’t people forgive you?</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Forgive me for what? You know, there’s still something wrong with that notion that I’m the one to be forgiven, when all I did is follow, &#8230; I reached different conclusions after I did some research about events, starting with 9/11, right? Waking up about what happened on 9/11. And these days, I think a lot of people are awake about what happened on 9/11. They might not know all the details of who did it, but they certainly are understanding that the official story is just a load of bunk!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/the-realist-report-with-chris-bollyn-911-5862-the-six-control-points-ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19156" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/the-realist-report-with-chris-bollyn-911-5862-the-six-control-points-ver-2.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="714" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>See post:</strong><a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/09/11/know-more-news-christopher-bollyn-the-man-who-solved-9-11-transcript/" rel="next">Know More News — Christopher Bollyn, The Man Who Solved 9/11 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[30:09]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And okay, so then I went further back and discovered that lying was not invented in 2001, right? Lying has been going on for a long time, and you kind of go down the rabbit hole. And many, many, many people have done that as well! Like, there is just so much good available research that has been done, that is available for us all to go down that road and learn for ourselves. The trouble is that we have this indoctrination that’s just been happening for so long, all our lives really, like it’s just a demoralization. People have become demoralized, and it’s very difficult for a lot of people to get out of that and to go down that road, and to open their eyes. And to admit that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Gee, all these things we’ve learned are wrong!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like that’s a really hard thing to go through. But once you go through it you never turn back. The truth will set you free! I really, truly believe that, and know it. Know it to be true, and I was saying that from prison, and I was writing it in some of the letters that I was writing. The truth will set you free! And I was saying that from behind bars. So I’m physically incarcerated, but I felt very, very free in all other aspects.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#333333;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah I was impressed with your letters. You sent me seven, and sometimes you’re so cheerful in your letters, you’re talking about you playing violin on Sunday, and everyone loved you, that I’m more miserable about you being in jail, than you were in jail! So you’re spirit is so strong Monika! You’re an inspiration to us all! And your letters, I really appreciated it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you Brian! I have to say, I mean, after the initial shock — and it really was a shock — but I felt like I was getting stronger with time, and getting more uplifted in my spirits as well. I did a lot of “<em>spiritual</em>” work, and, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah you wrote about that. We wrote back and forth about our sort of spiritual interpretation of life in that situation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes. And also like, I didn’t waste my time in there. I used it well, I got into a — basically they give your daily structure with their schedule — but then I got into a good routine. The morning coffee water, the hot water would be delivered and I would always look forward to that, even though that was at six a.m. I was already up, usually by five. Maybe I’d already written a letter, so it felt good, then make myself a cup of coffee. I had a knitting project going at all times, so usually I’d relax and knit a bit. Then maybe write some more letters.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">By 10 o’clock which is when “Hofgang” happened, the courtyard hour, I was really ready to get outside, do that. And I always went. And you would think that everybody would go, but that’s not the case, a lot of people didn’t always go outside, especially if there was inclement weather.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Tell us about that, like how big is the outside? What the prison looks like? I’m sure everyone’s wondering, like what was it&#8217;s like in jail? What’s it like in prison? How was the first week, and the first day, the second week? People want to know! What’s it like in prison, because most of us haven’t been there, you know? <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[Monika bursts out laughing]</strong></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-6068-stadelheim-womans-prison-aerial-view.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19707" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-6068-stadelheim-womans-prison-aerial-view.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="697" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah well, the Women’s Prison at Städelheim, well they don’t actually call it the “<em>Women’s Prison</em>”, Städelheim, but everybody knows where Städelheim is. That’s the big “<em>Men’s Prison</em>”. It’s very, very old. But the Women’s prison is newer, so it is more modern. We had hot and cold running water in the cell, and that’s not the case for the men’s prison, like where Alfred is. There’s just cold water in a tiny sink. And, of course, Alfred, he at the beginning, only had access to the showers three times a week. But now it’s different, because he’s working, so he got moved into a different wing. And he’s working in the laundry, and then he does have daily access to the shower room, which is down the hall.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-stadelheim-womens-prison-inside.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-19622" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/brian-ruhe-with-monika-nov-2018-stadelheim-womens-prison-inside.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="727" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> So what’s Alfred’s job in the laundry? I didn’t realize he’d be working in prison.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, so the laundry, all the prisoners clothes, like I wasn’t wearing my own clothing in prison. Sorry I wasn’t wearing my own clothing, so there are prison clothes. So you dabbed these laundry exchanges, you know, you go like certain days of the week you’d exchange your laundry for fresh laundry. And so it was being washed. And then you, I wore a skirt. You could either have jeans, or a skirt in the women’s, anyway.</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And I preferred the skirt, because it always fit. The first eight weeks, or so, I would always have the pants and never could get a fitting pair. They’d either be too tight, or too loose, or too baggy, or the zipper was broken and I mean, it was just a &#8220;<em>Gong Show</em>&#8221; with the pants. So I went with the skirt, that was much better and more comfortable, and then, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> You are saying in defense of Alfred. He’s retired from IBM, he could do a better job than laundry, <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[words unclear]</strong></span> for them. <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[35:31]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, in prison, I mean, there’s various jobs. I mean, maybe he’ll change his job over time, but he’s really happy to be working, because it gets him out of the cell more and in contact with people. Really that’s the main thing, otherwise he’s locked in his cell for most hours a day. And they had pretty severe conditions over at the men’s <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[prison]</strong></span>. In the woman’s also. I mean, we had a lot of hours of being locked in ourselves, basically 21 hours a day. So there’s the one hour that’s the courtyard hour, and then there’s an hour and a half in the afternoon where the cell doors were opened, just to the hallway.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">You’d have access to the hallway. And down the hall there would be the shower room, there’d be a small kitchen. There was a small group like a room, you know, where you could hang out with others. But you didn’t have a lot of time, because there was always a lot to do in that hour and a half. Also at the beginning of that hour and a half they would come around with the food and you had to wait until that trolley came around, and sometimes they’d be 20 minutes late. So that cuts into your hour and a half. And so you get the food that would last you till the next day at lunch again. And the hot meal came just after the courtyard hour at eleven, or eleven fifteen. So, you know, that sounds early for the main meal a day, but for me, who was getting up at five in the morning that was perfect. The hot meal at midday, basically.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> So your social time is out in the courtyard, where you’d meet and hang out with people. In the courtyard did you’d exercise? Was that a social time as well? What sort of exercise would you do?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. Well I definitely was trying to get as much exercise as I could. So when I first arrived it was winter, not a lot of people were going outside. And it’s basically people who do go outside, go round and round. And I don’t know if you ever heard about the dream that I had before my last night in freedom. I had a quite a profound dream. Which I didn’t realize until three days later what it was that I saw in my dream. But what I saw in my dream was the courtyard.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Wow! Tell the audience about that! Precognitive dream before any of this happened.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. It just completely floored me! I bolted upright! After my first full day in prison, the next morning, I was sort of in that half awake half asleep state, and I bolted upright in bed and realized what that dream had been representing., because in that dream, which I had had on the night of January 2nd to the 3rd, which was, you know, three days earlier, I was just walking in a circle, round and round, round and round, very, very slowly. All these people with their heads kind of slightly bowed. And there wasn’t anything around, no buildings. It was sort of like a desert. But I just thought it was very strange dream. In fact, it was so vivid that I talked about it at the breakfast table, and then, like I say, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So my first day I got arrested I wasn’t in that jail yet, I was in a police cell. And the next day I go before a judge for a hearing, to see if they can keep me. I’ve read that in some emails that they thought, okay, well you’re only allowed to be kept for 24 hours. This is true, but then they can determine that they can keep you. So that’s when they determined, oh I’m a flight risk! And so they kept me.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">I’m a flight risk, because I’m a Canadian, and I could just go home, right? Even though, well anyway, I’ll talk about that later. There were other hearings later on in March, and May again, to see if I could go and stay at my brother’s place. Give up my passport and make a daily trip to the police station. Say:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Hi! I’m Monika. Here I am, and I’m not running away. I want to attend this trial.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But that never worked out for me, either. And in both of those cases they predetermined the outcome too, it was just a formality to have these hearings. Just, because they have to do it. They have to go through these actions, or go through the motions. But they had reasons for keeping me which were absolutely bizarre. And I can tell you about that in a moment.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But I did want to just kind of finish. You had asked me about the courtyard hour. So in winter that’s how it was. Not very many people went out. I always went out and I tried to get exercise. I also exercised regularly in my cell and I kind of figured out a lot of exercises that you could do on the spot, because it’s a very small cell. In the beginning I was with people in a cell, and then, after about five weeks, I had a single, like my own cell. Anyway, so that’s how the days went.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[40:33]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> But I was gonna, just to finish the dream. That’s amazing. So you didn’t realize the meaning of the dream until you actually saw the courtyard, and then you wake up the next morning and bang you realize:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#333333;">“<em>Oh the dream!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;">And you put it all together?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yes!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Tell us about the dream, because that’s that shows psychic precognition on your point. And that in itself is pretty interesting, pretty significant.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah, it was like how does one explain that other than God? How does one explain that? It’s like, I had a dream in which I’m seeing something that’s gonna happen. It hasn’t happened yet. I don’t know how one explains that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Well, it’s called “<em>precognition</em>”, that’s like your psychic. Your psychic! You know, precognition, yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It’s a mystery. And I mean, I think that’s wonderful that there are mysteries in life. There was more to the dream, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Tell us all about the dream. I want to get all, because this is really psychic! Talk about the dream and any other details.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> In the dream,</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span><span style="color:#0000ff;"> so the size of the loop that people were walking was exactly the same size as the courtyard. You know, in sort of this image, it wasn’t tiny, it wasn’t huge, it was exactly the size of the courtyard. And half of the people were black and half of the people were White, in this dream. So again this is just a very strange dream that I told about at the breakfast table. Oh yeah, and then I was saying that the first night that I was arrested I was in a police cell. Then the second night I was in the jail. So that would have been the Thursday. Friday was my very first full day.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So that’s my first day that I experienced the “Hofgang”, the courtyard hour. And quite a few people who were outside that day — I didn’t realize that, but comparing it to what came later I realized that for some reason quite a few people were outside that day — but everybody’s just kind of walking in that circle.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">That changed in the summer when the weather was nice. Everybody went out and hung out and just sat around in sunny spots and would socialize. But in the winter, if you went out you had to move otherwise you’d get cold. So people were just walking round and round. And I still didn’t clue into it. But Friday night, go to bed. Saturday would, just bolt upright in my bed and realize, that’s the dream! I saw the dream!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But this thing about half black, half White, that represents something different. When I got it got into the jail cell, we were half black, half White. So there were two that were from Africa that we couldn’t communicate, couldn’t speak the same language. And then myself and another European woman. And so that’s how I would interpret the half-black, half-white. It was how it was in the cell.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And on that note that how it was in the cells. Like you would think that when you go to jail in a particular country, and if you can speak the language of that country, well then you can communicate with everybody in the jail. Well not so in a German jail. Most people in the jail were foreign language speakers!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh! Sounds pretty lonely then?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Most, I would say, more than half. Like I didn’t do a formal study,</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span><span style="color:#0000ff;"> but first of all there were lots of other European languages, but there were many people from Africa, as well. Some of them spoke English so I was fortunate and that I can speak English so I could communicate with quite a few of the people. If they didn’t speak German they might speak English. I could communicate in French, too, if need be, but there weren’t very many French-speaking people in the jail. So Spanish, and I used to speak Spanish.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s very, very rusty now. But I could do a little bit of communicating in Spanish. So, with these different languages that I have some degree of skill in, at least. German fluent, English fluent, French semi fluent, Spanish a little bit</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">I could communicate with a lot of people. But, you know, if you’re in a cell and there’s people nattering away, nattering, nattering, nattering in another language, and you’re not understanding them, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh, yeah.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[44:52]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Absolutely exhausting! It is emotionally draining and exhausting! Because it would be much better just to have complete quiet than to have this nattering going on in language that you cannot understand. It makes it very, very difficult, actually. And this is a problem for many, many, many people in the prison cells.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Now, there were single cells, and there were these group cells. The group cells are for four. In that prison four, sometimes we were five. They put an extra cot in, because they were very crowded. Once I got into my own cell, that was better. It was also shocking, because I went from being like over stimulated, we had “<em>television wars</em>”! I wanted peace and quiet, but they had the television on all the time, and it was most of the time in another language.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh man!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> And it was very exhausting too. So I chose, when I did get into my single cell, not to have the television. Like there’s a screen in every cell, but it only gets turned on if you pay for it. Well, I never did that. I didn’t want it. So, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> You have to pay for it? These prisoners, some of them probably not a lot of money, have to pay to watch TV?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Oh my goodness, it was expensive too! It was 20 euros per month. That’s like $30 a month for it. And everybody, just about everybody, had it. Like just about everybody paid for it. And there’s so much absolute garbage on TV, and it’s just such a mind, I don’t know what you would call it. Just an indoctrination tool! So yeah, that’s the reality. But yeah, it was very expensive and a lot of people, you’re right, they don’t have money. Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But I wanted to talk, I just touched on these hearings that I went to in March and then again in May to see if I could get out of jail, to await the trial. Like not to go home. Like I realized, okay they want to put me through a trial. They’re charging me, &#8230; They haven’t even charged me at this point. At the next hearing in March. I didn’t know about it till the day before I went there. I wasn’t psyching up for getting out, at all. But all my friends there were psyching me up!</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh! You’ll get out for sure! Like if you go for this hearing in front of the judge, usually you get out!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And then the judge herself — and this particular hearing took place over in the Men’s prison, it’s a large prison, so they’ve got facilities there and sometimes a judge comes there — so this woman judge, she was very, very friendly and listening to my lawyer, very attentively. And the guard who accompanied me was witnessing all this, and my lawyer was saying:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>She can go every day to the police station.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And the judge was saying:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Well, she wouldn’t even have to go every day. She could go every third day, or three times a week would be good enough.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">This kind of thing. So she was talking in a way that all indications were I would get out, with my passport being taken, and all that stuff, so that I couldn’t escape from Germany. And the guard also thought I was getting out. She witnessed all this, and on the way back, &#8230; But we weren’t gonna get the answer till the next day. The judge said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Okay, just the only thing I have to do is I have to talk with the prosecutor, and that’s it. But tomorrow you’ll get the fact, and, see you later.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">The guard on the way back, she said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh Monika, you can spend one more one more night in jail with us. It’ll be okay!</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Like, she was very friendly, very warm, and figured for sure I was leaving the next day. She said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>You know, it’s not so bad. You can spend one more night with us.</em>”</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Sort of like that. Like a friend almost. Well, the next day I didn’t hear anything. And I had gotten so psyched from everybody giving me this encouragement, and I started to dream about, walking through the forest, and having beautiful conversations, and maybe a glass of wine. And being with my relatives, with my brother. And just I just started to psych myself up for that. But I didn’t hear anything the next day. And then second day after that, I just knew in my gut, I knew this isn’t gonna work out. I’m not getting out. And that was probably my hardest day in the whole time.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh, yeah! I remember you wrote that in your letter, how they would do this. It almost seemed like they’re deliberately doing this as a psychological game.</p>
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<p style="text-align:center;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[49:38]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> So, and by Saturday — like that took place on Wednesday, Thursday, I was supposed to get the answer Friday was that really rough day for me. I kind of knew in my gut — still didn’t get the official answer though. Didn’t hear anything. Saturday, I started putting my pictures back on my pin board, you know, like I had packed everything up — just in case I get out. Because you can’t go back in your cell if you get out. If they release you, they pack up your stuff. So I thought, I’ll pack up the pictures and stuff off of my wall and get everything organized, really organized! Like everything was in bags just ready to go.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anyway, Saturday I put the pictures back on the wall. Sunday it’s a weekend, you don’t, you know, nothing happens. I think I got the answer on the Monday, or the Tuesday. And, of course, it was that I stay in jail.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Ohhh, &#8230;</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Let me tell you, well I already knew that! So by that time I wasn’t surprised and I’d already gotten over it, right? But Friday was that really rough day. Probably the hardest day in the whole time. But one of the reasons they gave — and this is why I said, they make their decision first and then they go through the motions, whatever they have to do, go through the motions — but one of their reasons for keeping me in jail was that the “<em>active letter exchanges</em>” that I had with <strong>Gerhard Ittner</strong>.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/a-dissident-speaking-out-gerhard-ittner-cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-11263" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/a-dissident-speaking-out-gerhard-ittner-cover.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="793" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;">See post: <a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/08/18/alfred-schaefer-a-dissident-speaking-out-gerhard-ittner-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Alfred Schaefer – A Dissident Speaking Out – Gerhard Ittner — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Gerhard Ittner, he was a political prisoner as well. At that time he was not, he was free. And I had not had a single letter from him, nor had I written him. I didn’t have an address for him. There was not one letter going back and forth between him and me at that point! And this was written into the reasons for keeping me in jail! And for some reason this would, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Maybe, because he wrote to you? You didn’t write him, he wrote to you?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Brian! Not a single letter exchanged from him to me, nor from me to him!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh, he didn’t even write to you, then?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> No! They made it up! They made it up out of thin air! And him being a political type, that they don’t like, and they didn’t want this communication going on, &#8230; I guess what they’re doing is they’re being pre-emptive! They don’t want me to start a dialogue with him, which is what I might do, if I get out. I don’t know! They just made it up out of thin air! That I had this, like “<em>aktiver Briefwechsel</em>” which means, “<em>active letter exchange</em>”. So that’s more than one letter, that’s two, or three, or five, or ten letters, back and forth!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">But there was not one! Not one! It was zero!</span> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">So, that was among “<em>other reasons</em>”. There you go, you get the verdict first. Isn’t that how it was in Alice in Wonderland? I don’t know, I don’t really remember that story, but that’s what, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> They just lie to you, accuse you of these letters. There were no letters. They just lie.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> They just made it up! Made it out of thin air! And it’s written in black and White.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Okay, the next time that I went before a judge — this time I had to go right into the downtown Munich, to the courthouse to see the judge there — happens to be the same judge I believe that was then presiding over our whole trial. And again, another hearing to see if I could get out to await the trial and just be at my brother’s place. And at that time my brother was not in jail, either. I mean, this would have been really nice for me to just be able to hang out there with them. Go swimming in the lake, and <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span> go for a walk in the forest. These were things that I was craving!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">Anyway, in that case the hearing went by quite quickly, asked a few questions and I answered as best could. A few days later I get the answer. And it was — this time I knew anyway that I wasn’t getting out. It was, I knew this time, I didn’t get myself psyched up to get out at all! I knew that they’ve already made their mind up that I’m staying in, but they have to go through the motions, because a certain amount of time goes by, they have to stay within their deadlines of how much time you can hold a prisoner, just hold the prisoner while nothing is going on.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">And by this time charges had been laid, finally. That took about four months, actually. Didn’t get the charges till late April. So this was May I believe, this hearing. And in this case the reasons were almost longer than the whole hearing took. I would guess the hearing took ten minutes, and it took me way longer than ten minutes to read page after page of reasons! And in these reasons, there were things that, okay, it’s “<em>unknown</em>”, this is “<em>unknown</em>”, that is “<em>unknown</em>”, that is “<em>unknown</em>”. I thought:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>Oh! They could have asked me that! Why didn’t they ask me that?</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">They just didn’t ask me! For example:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>It is unknown if the Schaefer siblings grew up together, or not.</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing loudly]</strong></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> That’s nuts! You grew up in Alberta together, right?</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> No. In hindsight, I could see why they might question it, because Alfred currently lives in Germany, and I currently live in Canada, so maybe they didn’t even grow up together. Also, by coincidence, Alfred happens to have been born in Germany. Now my parents had already emigrated to Canada, there was an older brother who was born first, then they went back for six months to Germany. And during that time, Alfred was born there. But they were already landed immigrants and applying for citizenship and soon became Canadian citizens. Then they went back to Canada and had a few more children, and I was the fourth of five.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">So okay, so they see that Alfred was born in Germany and they see Monika’s born in Canada, Alfred lives in Germany, Monika lives in Canada. I can see in hindsight that, okay maybe they have these doubts.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> They could have asked you!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> They could have asked. For me, it wouldn’t have occurred to me to volunteer this information, because it never occurred to me to doubt it, because that’s how it was! We grew up as a family together. Why would it occur to me to have to volunteer that information to the judge if he didn’t ask!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Of course!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> So that’s just one example. And I can’t recall right now what all the other reasons were, but that one just stands out and, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> That’s infuriating! It’s insulting! Gee, I wonder if they don’t even ask! Just insulting to not ask that. And then to write that down as a reason.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> But again, it just proves that they have their verdict before they go through the process. And that was with these hearings. That was only to decide if I stay in jail, or not, while we’re waiting for the trial. But the same thing in the trial. The whole trial, and like I said at the very beginning of this chat were having, everything’s inverted! So my perception of it was that they are proving every day, and maybe for another talk, another day, we could talk about what am I talking about, how they are proving every day that truth lies on our side and not on their side.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, we can do a series of videos on this. It’s such a big experience. This is the first video and I’d love to have you back, you know,</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. But then at the end the judge portrays it exactly the opposite! And says:</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">“<em>How we proved, over and over, every single day in court, what haters we were!</em>”</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[laughing]</strong></span> <span style="color:#0000ff;">Like, what a concept! What a concept!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> It’s turned upside down! It’s an American occupied government of Germany. Just turns reality on its head!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Yeah. An American occupied, but we all know who controls America! I mean, I think was it Netanyahu who said: “<em>who controls America, &#8230;</em>”, or was it Sharon, I can’t remember which.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah, I think it’s Sharon says:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> It was Sharon, exactly! Yeah that’s right. So, I don’t know how long we’ve been talking Brian?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yes, almost an hour. Maybe we should wind down you must be getting tired here? I mean, but it’s a real honor for me to give me your first public appearance on my Brian Ruhe Show, about your experience. Because we’ve all been waiting for your story. So I really appreciate you being on the show Monika!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you so much! I was just gonna check my notes to see if there was something else urgent for today. But I don’t really think so, and I mean, then we can do more talks, right? And I’m happy to talk to other people as well and <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>[get]</strong></span> connected back in the world of internet and phone now. I lost you. I lost you Brian?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yes, sorry I had my mic turned off for background noise. You’re gonna be more in demand now. You were doing a lot of videos before you’re arrested. Now that you’ve had the experience you’re gonna be quite popular, now. I just want to thank people in the chat here. There’s hundreds of comments here in the chat. People are really happy to have you back! Sorry, I didn’t have a chance to read the chat, we’re talking so much. But yeah, hundreds of comments here.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Maybe I can read them afterwards, or something.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Oh yeah, it’ll still be here on YouTube, right there on the Brian Ruhe channel. And you can read them all.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well again, I just want to say with how much I appreciate all the letters that I received, and correspondence. And also all the actions that people took to try to highlight what was going on, because again like I said at the very beginning it’s about all of us. It’s about our freedom! It’s about understanding the truth! This is a call for, basically if we don’t understand the truth of what’s going on, then we are becoming enslaved!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Becoming destroyed! This is like an emergency call to people, to wake up.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">The people listening here, probably most of them are, but that we have to carry on this work for all of us to remain free! And one could talk about that, how we already very much enslaved. But the fact that we’re talking right now, right here, &#8230; I always still retain hope, and actually I’d like to just make this one more comment about what does give me hope.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/sorry-mom-cover.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-10726" src="https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/sorry-mom-cover.jpg?w=500" alt="" width="500" height="785" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color:#008000;">See post: <a style="color:#008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2016/06/18/sorry-mom-i-was-wrong-about-the-holocaust-transcript/" rel="bookmark">Sorry Mom, I was wrong about the Holocaust — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;">It’s the fact that they are so scared of somebody like me! Oh my goodness! Like why are they so worried about something that I said in a video apologizing to my deceased mother, to my deceased parents, for having been wrong about how I used to think about these events of World War Two? And I had blamed them for not stopping all those horrors, and then I apologized later in life, just two years ago, and why are they so worried about that? Shows me that we do still have the ability to turn this around! We have to for our survival! Right? But if they had it all sewn up, and if they already got this all, they wouldn’t care about me, or you. They wouldn’t care!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Yeah! And now your voice is even more out there. I remember when you were released I was surprised. I thought they’re gonna to keep you for like a year. I was crying out of the phone, she’s released! I’d thought you would be in for a year!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Well, I’m very happy to be back home that’s for sure. I’m very sad that my brother’s in jail. But he himself, I can assure you, he maintains his positive and good spirits, I know that. One of the things about court, all the court days, it was just so nice to see him. That was really when I could see him. And we had a little bit of opportunity to talk as we were wandering up and down the stairways, and whatnot, to get to the courtroom and back. Anyway, we should probably wrap it up.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Well, I have to say:</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you so much for doing this Brian. And I know we worked hard to get this connection. It took us over an hour to get this Google hangout connected. We did finally succeed!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><strong>Brian:</strong> Good. Talk again soon, thanks!</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;"><span style="color:#0000ff;"><strong>Monika:</strong> Thank you Brian. Bye-bye.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/01/brian-ruhe-show-monika-schaefer-one-month-in-the-free-world-nov-26-2018-transcript/">Brian Ruhe Show — Monika Schaefer – One Month in the “Free World”, Nov 26, 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#0000ff;"><a style="color:#0000ff;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2018/12/19/the-graham-hart-show-brizer-with-monika-schaefer-dec-2018-transcript/">The Graham Hart Show — Brizer with Monika Schaefer, Dec 2018 — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; [John Friend from &#8220;The Realist Report&#8221; interviews (Sept, 2018) Christopher Bollyn, the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World&#8221; and his latest &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/09/23/the-realist-report-with-christopher-bollyn-sep-2018-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>John Friend</strong> from &#8220;<strong><em>The Realist Report</em></strong>&#8221; interviews (Sept, 2018) <strong>Christopher Bollyn,</strong> the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;<em><strong>Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World</strong></em>&#8221; and his latest book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">They discuss the state of the 9-11 truth movement, his latest book, the demonization of Muslims while simultaneously flooding White countries with them and other incompatible aliens.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Also, how Israel, and its agents, and shabbos goys, were able to carry out 9-11 with such audacity, due to their assured control over six crucial elements, namely: <strong>law enforcement</strong>, <strong>mass media</strong>, <strong>litigation</strong>, <strong>security</strong>, <strong>government</strong>, and the <strong>military</strong>.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Such control not only allowed them to carry out the crime, killing and maiming millions since, but most importantly, cover up their involvement while hoodwinking the public into believing that Arabs carried it out.<br />
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Christopher Bollyn&#8217;s work proves beyond any doubt that 9-11 was carried out by organized jewry through Israel and zionists within the US, to create their &#8220;<em>War on Terror</em>&#8220;, aka, &#8220;<strong><em>War OF Terror</em></strong>&#8220;, in order to justify the smashing of Arab countries, and others, as part of a scheme to create a &#8220;<em>Greater Israel</em>&#8221; domination over the Middle East, as well as their larger New World Order agenda involving the further subjugation of all White countries.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">—<strong> KATANA</strong>]</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">On this edition of The Realist Report, we’re joined by <a class="external" href="http://bollyn.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><strong>Christopher Bollyn</strong></a>, an investigative journalist, author, and long-time 9/11 researcher. Chris and I focus on his recently published book <a class="external" href="https://www.amazon.com/War-Terror-Plot-Rule-Middle/dp/0985322543" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><strong><em>The War on Terror: The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong></a> and the origins of the Jewish-concocted “Global War on Terror”. We also discuss the 9/11 Truth movement, Bollyn’s <a class="external" href="http://bollyn.com/#article_16085" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><strong>Memo to President Trump</strong></a>, and other matters relating to 9/11 and the “Global War on Terror”.</p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> All right folks, welcome back to another edition of <strong>The Realist Report</strong>. This is your host <strong>John Friend</strong>. The website is The Realist Report dot com, where you will find an extensive archive of these podcasts, as well as other programs I’ve appeared on as a guest over the years. You will also find all of my blog posts and articles. A contact page, my Twitter feed, which is embedded in the right hand sidebar of the website, and many other useful and important links. I am a regular reporter for American Free Press, America’s last real newspaper. And I also contribute to the Barnes Review, the bi-monthly history magazine affiliated with <em><strong>American Free Press</strong></em>. I encourage listeners to subscribe to these fine print publications. Check out American Free Press dot net, and Barnes Review dot org for more details.</p>
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<p>Okay, with that said, let me introduce my special guest this evening. Tonight we are joined by <strong>Christopher Bollyn!</strong> An investigative journalist, author, and long time 9/11 researcher. Chris and I will be focusing on 9/11 primarily and his recently published book “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”, which is available from Amazon dot com..</p>
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<p>Chris, welcome to the program sir! It’s really a great honor having you here.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Thank you John. It’s nice to be with you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. Yes, this is good. I’m glad that we could talk. I’ve been wanting to interview you for a number of years. Your work has been very influential on my thinking, especially about 9/11 and the Global War on Terrorism, and American foreign policy. And really what’s kind of going on in the world, especially in the Middle East.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">See: <strong><a style="color: #008000;" href="http://therealistreport.com/christopher-bollyn-explains-who-really-did-911/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Christopher Bollyn explains who really did 9/11 at the San Diegans for 9/11 Truth meet up group on Sunday, September 9, 2018.</a></strong></span></p>
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<p>So on that, it’s great to actually sit down and talk. I went down to San Diego a couple weekends ago and heard you give a very fine presentation about your book. You focused primarily on your book. So it was great. And I wanted you to maybe kind of comment on your speaking tour. I know you’re on a mini one right now, from what I understand. And you’ve spoken at the 9/11 Truth group in the past as well. So could you kind of talk about your current speaking tour?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes, I’m on a really short tour as you said. I was invited to speak in Texas, in San Antonio, and then I came to, I was invited also to speak at the San Diego<span style="color: #008000;"><strong> [9/11]</strong></span> Truth group. Which is one of the best truth groups in the United States. A very active group with a lot of outreach and regular events. And that was on the ninth of September. And now I have two events left in Seattle, on the twentieth, and the twenty-second of the month, in northern Seattle at libraries. And that’ll be it for this tour.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21048" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg" alt="" width="659" height="942" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg 659w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 659px) 100vw, 659px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s based, as you said, on my book “<em><strong>Solving 9/11 — The Deception That Changed the World</strong></em>”, … not that one, but the “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”, the shorter book, that came out in 2017. Because it’s very urgent at the commemoration of the September eleventh, every year.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But now, it’s very important for Americans to understand what the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is all about! And why we are engaged in this, now seventeen year old war, and why we have spent something like seven trillion dollars, as President Trump said a little while ago, in seventeen years and got nothing for it! And so, Americans need to understand that we are in a deceitful and fraudulent war! And that’s what my speaking tour is all about.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes, absolutely! And you mentioned the <strong>San Diegans for 9/11 Truth</strong> group, and I did want to briefly talk about them, because that was really how I kind of got into all of this! I went to one of their meet ups and you’re right they have got to be, … I’ve never really dealt with other 9/11 Truth groups around the country, but I’d be willing to bet everything that I have, that they are definitely one of the most organized, motivated, you know, dedicated, and professional 9/11 Truth groups out there! And you can probably attest to this. I’m sure you’ve dealt with some other 9/11 Truth groups.</p>
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<p>So I really want to kind of just tip my hat to them. They always put on a monthly meet up. They usually have a speaker to come in and present, and screen a documentary, and then have a Q &amp; A afterwards. So they really do a really good job!</p>
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<p>And I was talking to <strong>Adam Green</strong>, a mutual friend, just last night, and he’s kind of involved in the <strong>San Diegans for 9/11 Truth</strong> group. And it’s really just refreshing knowing that there are other people out there that really do care about this topic, and are doing something, you know, proactive and productive, to kind of get the word out there. So, I kind of want to just say that, as we start here.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah! They were actually the first group to invite me to speak, and I went there in the fall of 2014. And I’ve been back several times since. And yeah, they’re great! They have outreach. They have an outreach once a month, or so, in downtown San Diego, right across from the USS Midway, where it’s berthed. And they reach out to the public and try to educate the public, which is what this is all about! Educating the public about 9/11 and the war on terror.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-San-Diegans-for-911-Truth-Labor-Day-Outreach.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21062" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-San-Diegans-for-911-Truth-Labor-Day-Outreach.jpg" alt="" width="615" height="929" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-San-Diegans-for-911-Truth-Labor-Day-Outreach.jpg 615w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-San-Diegans-for-911-Truth-Labor-Day-Outreach-199x300.jpg 199w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 615px) 100vw, 615px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. And you’ve been covering 9/11 really from the day that it happened. And I want to kind of talk about your research over the years, and have your main conclusions changed, or sort of evolved over the years? Or did you kind of, because almost like, right off the bat, you were talking about the Israeli connections. You know, the individuals that were arrested in New York City on the day that 9/11 happened. So, I guess, what are your main conclusions, and how they kind of evolved over the years?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. That’s a good question. Well, I was fortunate, if you will, to have been on the East Coast when 9/11 happened. I was actually in New York City early on the day. I was a writer, like you, for <strong>American Free Press</strong>, at the time. And so that was my job. And when 9/11 happened, I was on my way back to Washington DC, after a weekend up in Vermont. And the Pentagon was struck, I couldn’t go there, so I called the office and said I’m heading back for Chicago with my family. You know, I couldn’t go to Washington, I couldn’t stay in the East Coast.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I, you know, my specialty, I’d worked for American Free Press for over a year when this started, so I had, you know, I started writing journalistic articles. And the first thing that struck me was that there were important aspects of 9/11 that were being blocked, or were omitted from the official government, or the media narrative.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And those were, most conspicuously, the reports of explosions that people saw and heard. And then there was this story, which was my first story actually, about these five dancing Israelis, we call them, who were Israeli citizens, who were seen, observing, and photographing, and celebrating the attack on the World Trade Center, from across the Hudson River. The Hudson at East River there, on the Jersey side, just a stone throw from the World Trade Center. And that became my first article..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as a writer for American Free Press, I was allowed and able to, I was encouraged to, to continue my research and to write about this. And with the evidence of Israeli prior knowledge of 9/11 attacks, I began with the hypothesis that this could be a false flag attack. An Israeli operation, that was meant to be blamed on Muslims! And blamed on Arabs! In order to increase US, American hostility in the Middle East against these foes of Israel, the Arabs, and Muslims..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And with that hypothesis I started doing research and articles, and weeks became months, became years. But the hypothesis remained and was validated by what I discovered, as time went by. And so, after a couple of years, it became not my hypothesis anymore, but really my thesis!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then finally, in 2012, I published the book “<strong><em>Solving 9/11 — The Deception That Changed the World</em></strong>”, and it’s companion volume “<strong><em>Solving 9/11 — The Original Articles</em></strong>”, which contains my articles that were published originally in the American Free Press, in chronological order. So people can see how this how this hypothesis developed into a thesis and developed into my book..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, just last year, 2017 in August, I published a little book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. I wrote this as a very small, concise, volume that can be shared with people. Because this is very important that Americans understand how 9/11 fits into the “<em>War on Terror</em>” logic! Because really, that’s what happened, is that the “<em>War on Terror</em>” was a preexisting construct that needed a “<em>spark plug</em>” to make it operational! And that “<em>spark plug</em>” was 9/11!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes, exactly! And as you kind of explained there, right off the bat, there were all these Israeli connections that you were highlighting and writing about, but they weren’t getting a lot of coverage in the mainstream certainly. And it’s interesting how you were sort of thinking:</p>
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<p>And ironically enough, these guys ever arrested in New York — you can find the police reports from the East Rutherford Police Department, publicly available online. This is no secret. This is no, you know, crazy, outlandish conspiracy theory, or something! This is very well documented, very easy to demonstrate, and easy to verify for yourself. You know, they were arrested by these local police officers. And they’re sitting there telling them:</p>
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<p>So right off the bat, you know, they’re almost trying to frame this entire thing on Arabs, on Muslims in general. So I mean, that should be a red flag right away to anybody that sat down and read that document. And secondly, why are these Israelis being arrested? They’re obviously tied into what was going on. Why was this not given more coverage? And interestingly, it actually was covered in the mainstream media at the time, but it was quickly downplayed, and kind of swept under the rug, as you well know.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes! Yes, there was, it was written about in New Jersey, in a paper called “<strong><em>The Bergen Record</em></strong>” by a journalist named Paulo Lima. And I contacted Mr Lima after 9/11, a day, or two afterwards, and talked to him about the article. Because it came out, I believe, September twelfth, in this New Jersey paper. But oddly enough, as you said, the story did not cross the river and get published in the New York papers. Because when Ted Koppel on September eleventh, he came on the air, I believe it was Ted Koppel, and he said that, about noon, or twelve thirty, he said that:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when it was discovered that these five men were Middle Eastern, but were also “<em>Israelis</em>”, then there was no interest in the media to repeat this story. So it remained in the “<strong><em>Bergen Record</em></strong>” for one day, or so, and then got pushed under the under the carpet, so to speak. But it became the essence of my first article that was printed that week after 9/11, in American Free Press.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Interesting. Yeah, that’s incredible! That you were right there to start talking about this, and covering it. And it wasn’t only the <em><strong>Bergen Record</strong></em>. I mean, I don’t know the exact time frame, but I know in the months, and maybe a year, or so, after 9/11, there were a number of mainstream articles that were written about this massive Israeli espionage operation, that had been unraveled and uncovered leading up to 9/11.</p>
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<p>And even on 9/11 itself! If I’m not mistaken, there was well over one hundred Israeli agents that were involved in this. And many of them were, in fact, arrested and deported back to Israel. What do you know about this broader network of Israeli spies that were operating all across the country? There are indications that they may have been tracking, or monitoring some of the alleged hijackers. Could you kind of demystify this a little bit?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well that’s the DEA investigation. The Drug Enforcement Agency investigation that was done, in which they found these so-called Israeli “<em>art students</em>” who were, you know, snooping around and trying to gain access to DEA offices, and even going to the homes of the DEA agents. And the DEA did a report that was leaked, that gave the names and talked about these people, these Israelis. As you said, it was over a hundred..</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But also, there was, shortly after 9/11, there were reports in the New York media, and other media, about Israelis that were picked up here, and here, and here, and here! And so there were numerous reports of various Israeli gangs, or cells, being arrested with trucks that were exploding, bombs, and various things by the Holland Tunnel.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, I called the Israeli Embassy in that week after 9/11, and asked them. I said:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they said, I think I gave a number like sixty, or something. They said:</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So there’s, when you calculate in all these various “<em>art students</em>” and things, yes it was hundreds of Israelis who were involved in this operation! Many of whom, who had been arrested on, shortly after 9/11, or on 9/11 itself.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes! And there is a very well produced Fox News investigative series into all of this, that was published and ran by Fox News. It was quickly taken off their website, I know. You can still find it on YouTube. It’s the infamous Carl Cameron investigative series* into all of these Israeli spies that were again, basically uncovered and arrested by our own government, by the federal government, by the DEA, the FBI!</p>
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<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[* <a style="color: #008000;" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k43_NKYs50">Four Part Series Carl Cameron Israeli Spies in US</a>]</strong></span></p>
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<p>So, it’s really quite astonishing that we have all of this very legitimate, valid information, tying all of these Israelis into what was going on, on 9/11. And again, it’s just kind of swept down the memory hole, essentially..</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I did have a question, just to kind of get some clarification. The Israeli spies that were investigated, and in many cases arrested, by the DEA and by the FBI, were a lot of these spies tied in to the people in New York City, involved with Urban Moving Systems? Which was another Mossad front, essentially.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:50]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. As you said, the five dancing Israelis, and others who were arrested in New York, were nominally, or were employees of this Urban Moving Systems, in Weehawken, in New Jersey. Which, as Carl Cameron, or Fox News, you know, they went to investigate this a little bit too. This was a front! And it was a front for the Mossad. And that revelation came from an FBI person, to “<strong><em>Forward</em></strong>” newspaper, which is the jewish newspaper in New York, which printed that, I think, in March of 2002, or something like that.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-Dominik-Suter-Urban-Moving-Systems.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21074" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-Dominik-Suter-Urban-Moving-Systems.jpg" alt="" width="1152" height="963" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that, this group of Israelis, all these Israelis who were caught in connection to 9/11, were employees of <strong>Dominik Suter’s</strong>, <strong>Urban Moving Systems</strong>, in Weehawken, New Jersey. Which was an Israeli intelligence front, which was not really a valid moving company at all, but was actually a front!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And there were American employees who worked there, who noticed that on 9/11, the Israelis who worked at Urban Moving Systems, were jubilant! And were very happy with the attacks of 9/11! Like those five dancing Israelis. And the Americans couldn’t understand it. That they were in tears, they were crying, and these Israelis were like celebrating! Which was for them, really, you know, they’re celebrating a job well done! They had they succeeded in their criminal plot!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! It’s really amazing knowing that there is all this proof tying Israel, &#8230; That’s what’s so incredible to me! It’s like, when I was first getting into 9/11 truth, rather than even trying to get involved with all the kind of more complicated information relating to 9/11, why aren’t we just out telling people:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Look! Our own government investigated what was going on, and they arrested the people that were tied into what took place on 9/11. And they weren’t Muslims from the Middle East! They were Israeli spies! And we can easily prove this!”</h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Yeah, that is the whole point, you see. And so you say:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“How did the Israelis go ahead forward with this operation in New York City, and get caught with so many of these people with their involvement in 9/11? How did they have the audacity? How did they have, … why did they go forward with this plot?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the answer to that is, because they knew that they had protection within the law enforcement of the United States of America! Because the person who was responsible for the investigation of 9/11, was himself an Israeli spy! That was Michael Chertoff, who was the Assistant Attorney General under John Ashcroft. And he was the Attorney General responsible for the criminal division of the Department of Justice. And beneath him, the FBI serves as the agency that provides the evidence and the information that he needs to prosecute the case.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And under Michael Chertoff there was, in fact, no real investigation, because the evidence was being destroyed from day one! And there was no prosecution! And he’s the one who oversaw the release of these Israelis who were arrested, sent back to Israel, on visa violations, within two months after 9/11.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[18:56]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! Nothing to see here, guys! We’re just going to deport these prime suspects in what took place on 9/11, back to Israel! Nothing to see here! Yep, it’s pretty incredible when you stop and think about it..</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I want to talk more about, like you have an article on your website, “<a href="http://www.bollyn.com/#article_16099"><em>The Key zionist Control Points of 9/11</em></a>” <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>. </strong></span>I kind of want to focus on that for just a minute. Before we do that, I want to ask you, could you maybe just like summarize your overall views of 9/11? If you had to, like explain it like an average American, you how would you go about explaining 9/11 to them?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21076" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg" alt="" width="719" height="574" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin.jpg 719w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-King-David-Hotel-1946-and-Manachem-Begin-300x239.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 719px) 100vw, 719px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well, that 9/11 was a hoax, a false flag operation, that was done by Israeli intelligence, military intelligence primarily, I believe. And the purpose was to was to start the “<em>War on Terror</em>”!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And the “<em>War on Terror</em>” itself, is really a construct that goes back to, about 1979, July, when <strong>Menachem Begin</strong> then the Prime Minister of Israel, organized a conference in Jerusalem. Some conference about international terrorism under the auspices of Netanyahu family, Benjamin, and his father, Benzion. And they had this propaganda offensive, where they rolled out “<em>international terrorism</em>” as the new global bogeyman.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this “<em>War on Terror</em>” that&#8217;s been promoted for decades until — and it was like a bonfire he was trying to light, but it wouldn’t light without the proper fuel. And the fuel that was necessary to ignite and make, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"> And that’s what brought the United States militarily into the Middle East, waging war against Israel’s enemies! </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21071" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military.jpg" alt="" width="834" height="625" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military.jpg 834w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Military-300x225.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 834px) 100vw, 834px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And this is all, you know, the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is based on a strategy that Israel has, called, the “<em>Yinon Plan</em>” to basically fragment, to conquer, to destroy the militaries of the strong Arab nations, like Iraq, and Syria, and then to balkanize, or break up those countries into ethnic statelets! Which is what’s currently being done. And all of this is, you know, now the “<em>War on Terror</em>” has become America’s longest war, longest foreign war, and most expensive in US history!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21033" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg" alt="" width="738" height="924" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force.jpg 738w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5856-Authorization-for-Use-of-Military-Force-240x300.jpg 240w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 738px) 100vw, 738px" /></a></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[21:23]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh yeah! It’s incredible how much money we’ve spent! I just put it together, an article yesterday, a blog post over on the Realist Report dot com. And even like mainstream reports put the price tag at like, four trillion dollars, I think it is! And some estimates are even higher! It’s just incredible how much money we spent since 9/11, prosecuting this fraudulent global war on terrorism, that’s totally against America’s national interests! And, of course, totally for the interests of Israel, and the wider international jewish community. Certainly in the Middle East it’s just such a big scam, it’s truly outrageous!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I wanted to talk about the key control points of 9/11. And you outlined this very well, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yup.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> In an article on your website. And really this is, what all of your books are really all about, is kind of explaining how they were able to do 9/11. Because that was what was so kind of just baffling to me! Once I realized the official narrative, the official conspiracy theory, and that is what it is, the official story of 9/11, is itself a conspiracy theory. But the official narrative was just full of holes, it didn’t make sense. It was obviously fraudulent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But I was just dumbfounded how it could actually be carried out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21081" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg" alt="" width="680" height="971" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2.jpg 680w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5862-The-Six-Control-Points-Ver-2-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> And I think once you realize that all their key players were in positions of influence to facilitate it, and to make it happen, and to cover it up, it really starts making more sense.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the key points you have here, are:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>The control of law enforcement.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21068" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement.jpg" alt="" width="834" height="626" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement.jpg 834w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Law-Enforcement-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 834px) 100vw, 834px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>The control of the criminal investigation.</strong> You mentioned Michael Chertoff. He was the number two in the Justice Department, I believe you said. So, they were responsible for covering it up basically, and not doing an authentic genuine investigation.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21069" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation.jpg" alt="" width="833" height="625" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation.jpg 833w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Litigation-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And really their goal was to avoid prosecuting the culprits, many of whom, again we arrested that day, and in the weeks afterwards, a lot of these Israeli spies. So they controlled the law enforcement aspect. And that the criminal investigation into it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Of course, they control the mass media.</strong> And you have a point here, you mentioned Philip Zelikow who was responsible for the, was it the 9/11 Commission report he was in charge of?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21070" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media.jpg" alt="" width="833" height="624" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media.jpg 833w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Mass-Media-300x225.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> And this is like the official “<em>myth of 9/11</em>”, the way the public understands 9/11. The way it’s officially, &#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Interpreted.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Interpreted! Yeah! Exactly by the government, by the mass media. And here’s Philip Zelikow, this hard-line zionist. I don’t know if he’s a dual citizen, but he’s definitely jewish, and definitely has ties to the international jewish community. So of course, you know, they control the mass media.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>They control the litigation</strong>, after the fact, with US Judge Alvin Hellerstein.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21072" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security.jpg" alt="" width="833" height="625" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security.jpg 833w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Security-768x576.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 833px) 100vw, 833px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>They controlled the security at the World Trade Center, and at the various airports.</strong> And, in fact, the buildings themselves, the World Trade Center complex, was basically sold to Larry Silverstein, who is obviously a jewish individual, who has ties to Israel and the broader international jewish community. In the way, that even the way that the World Trade Center complex was privatized was like this zionist criminal conspiracy, essentially, right? I mean, yeah, the way they went about selling it to Silverstein, it was clearly like this insight deal, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[24:42]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. It was very much so. And it’s important to note that <strong>Larry Silverstein</strong> had a very close relationship with Mr Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel. They would speak every Sunday afternoon on the phone, for years prior to 9/11, all the way through. And so, what we’re talking about? This was part of the setting up of the operation.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then, as you said, then in the summer of 2001, the World Trade Center, which was basically publicly owned property — belonging to the Port Authority of New York, New Jersey — it was sold. It was negotiated and sold to <strong>Larry Silverstein</strong>. This was a very convoluted process.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20732" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office.jpg" alt="" width="696" height="985" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office.jpg 696w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Larry-Silverstein-NOT-at-the-office-212x300.jpg 212w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But Larry Silverstein and the head of the Port Authority at that time, Louis Eisenberg, were themselves both directors of the zionist fundraising out organization called, “<em>The UJA Federation of New York</em>”, the United jewish Appeal Federation of New York. Larry Silverstein was the Honorary National Chairman, he had been the National Chairman, in that position, and Louis Eisenberg was on the planning board of the UJA Federation.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, these two men, the ones who oversaw the transfer of the property of the World Trade Center to Larry Silverstein, they were both brothers in arms on the UJA, which is the biggest fund-raising organization for the state of Israel, in the United States.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> So these individuals were like, heavily involved, key players, not only in like American-jewish affairs, but really on an international scale, right? I mean, they had ties to Israel, they had ties to their cousins over in Europe, ex cetera. So, I mean, these guys were major players. And just that the way that it was transferred to Silverstein’s control, just right before 9/11! I mean, how obvious could they make it, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah it’s really just, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> In your face like, suspicious!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. He got the property I think, on July 24th.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! It was just a few months before 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> It was five weeks!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh okay! Jeez! Well yeah, I guess it was. Yes, I mean, it was like, right before 9/11! And then, of course, he takes out these insurance policies, protecting him against “<em>acts of terrorism</em>”. And, of course, that’s exactly what 9/11 was! So he’s, I don’t know exactly what the numbers are, I’ve written about it a few times over the years for <em><strong>American Free Press</strong></em>, in fact. And I think the guy’s got, I mean, I don’t know what it is, but he’s made a ton of money off of this scam!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> He should <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[unclear]</strong></span> for the insurance fraud!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. He put down a hundred million dollars of borrowed money, and got back something like five billion dollars! Five thousand million dollars in awards. And yeah, Larry Silverstein is clearly one of the people that is tied into this terrible operation. And he’s the guy that owned all three buildings that fell that day. He’s the person who told public television that he ordered building “<em>to pull it</em>”, regarding building seven</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[WTC 7]</strong></span>. <span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“And I watched the building come down.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as the owner and the beneficiary of this insurance policy, in which, this was the first time in history, that this clause pertaining to terrorist attacks, was ever used in insurance history! So I mean, yeah this guy deserves to be thoroughly investigated!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[28:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh yeah! Exactly. <strong>Well, moving on, you also point out here that government, the zionist control of really the Bush administration, but key positions in the Bush administration.</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20716" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government.jpg" alt="" width="835" height="627" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government.jpg 835w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Element-of-Control-Government-768x577.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 835px) 100vw, 835px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All of the neo-cons, like in the Pentagon, for example. Could you elaborate on this a little bit? Key positions that these zionists, and a lot of them were dual citizens, had in the Bush administration that, kind of facilitated 9/11?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. Well, the thing is that every person in the Bush administration, like Cheney, and Bush himself, Condoleezza Rice, and what have you. These people all had advisors, high level advisors. You know, the second person chief of staff, what have you, who were zionist neo-cons! Like Philip Zelikow, the person who wrote the executive Commission, who was the director, executive director, and the person who actually wrote this fraudulent White Paper, that covered 9/11. He was Condoleezza Rice’s senior counsel! He was her adviser. And then there was Libby, was the advisor to Cheney. Rumsfeld had a deputy called Paul Wolfowitz. And Bush had an advisor.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, all of the Bush administration was supported by these zionist neo-cons, who were basically “<em>Israel Firsters</em>” and this organization also.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">These zionist neo-cons, they were the people who were at the Defense Policy Board. And the Defense Policy Board is this group of appointed people who craft the policy for the Pentagon. And as I said, the Deputy Secretary of Defense was Paul Wolfowitz. And there was Rabbi Zakkai, who was the comptroller at the Pentagon, when something like two point one trillion dollars went missing, it was announced the day before 9/11. And Douglas Feith, and people like that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And these are the people who created the policy calling for the United States to overthrow seven countries in five years! And this was the memo that was discovered, you know, it was revealed in the Pentagon by <strong>General Wesley Clark</strong>. He discovered this memo circulating in the Pentagon, just a few days after 9/11. So it called for the United States to go to the Middle East and overthrow seven countries in five years! And that is exactly what we have been doing for the past seventeen years!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20726" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg" alt="" width="887" height="672" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years.jpg 887w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years-300x227.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-5857-General-Wesley-Clark-7-countries-in-5-years-768x582.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 887px) 100vw, 887px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. Exactly! Well and to make it even worse, we had Ehud Barak, who is a long time, top Israeli political, and I think he was also a general, if I’m not mistaken. But he this big time Israeli politician. Was the prime minister, defense minister. And on the day of 9/11 he is on the BBC being interviewed. And he basically explains the whole, what’s going to happen. You know, this is an attack by al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, he says. And now is the time for America and the wider Western world see to unite and engage in this struggle to defeat radical Islamic terrorism! And he names a number of countries, many of which General Wesley Clark exposed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So it was very clear that they had this preconceived agenda, and 9/11 was just used to justify it. Into, really not only justify it, but like institutionalize it as our official US foreign policy! And that’s exactly what has happened in the aftermath, and still carries on to this very day!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right and <strong>Ehud Barak</strong> was, at the time, Israel’s most decorated soldier, they say. He had been chief of staff, he had been, as you said, Minister of Defense, he had been Prime Minister. And he just happened to be in London on September eleventh, in the studio of the BBC World Television, ready to give his interpretation of 9/11!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter wp-image-20715 size-full" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png" alt="" width="480" height="360" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC.png 480w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Ehud-Barak-at-the-BBC-300x225.png 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now this is called the “<em>primacy effect</em>”. When they, when something terrible like this happens, the first plausible explanation given to the public is the one that will stick in the minds of people. And that’s what he was all about. He was giving this plausible explanation. He said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The world will never be the same from today on.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said is that BBC World, which is the largest English-speaking television network in the world. It spans the globe. And he said that:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“We know who’s behind this.”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s Osama bin Laden, and we know where he is.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Now is the time for America to start an operational, concrete, ‘War on Terror’!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as I said, this, he had also been the commander of the covert commando force on the Sayeret Matkal, where Bibi Netanyahu had been his one of his soldiers. And there was some other Sayeret Matkal players involved. I think Daniel Levin on Flight eleven was a Sayeret Matkal member. And this is a covert commando force that serves directly under the Israeli chief of staff.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, all of these connections, it shows that a Ehud Barak was primed and ready to give that interpretation. It’s so important! Because in order for such a deception to succeed, as I said, you have to get your explanation out there, and you have to spread throughout the world, as soon as possible! And that’s what he was doing in London.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[33:20]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then he went from the BBC, he went straight Sky News, Sky Television, which is owned by Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch, and told the same story. So, there were other agents around the world, in San Diego, and other places, who said exactly what Ehud Barak had been saying. So yeah, they got it out, they got the story out there.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah, they had their script ready to go. And, you know what 9/11, was really a very traumatizing, and just intense event for people to experience. And people were in fear, people were scared, and in a scenario like that, right after it happens, everyone’s traumatized, no one’s really thinking critically. They’re just looking for an explanation, looking for answers. And here these guys are on television, ready to explain exactly what America’s going to do in the aftermath. It’s really astonishing!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Adam Green asked me this last night. He asked me what, you know, just my general observations of your speech the other night, down in San Diego. And just my, I guess my views on your work in general. And what really strikes me, is just how really transparent all of this is! It’s like, so obvious that they were behind this, and they’ve benefited from it! They really don’t make it a secret you. And find numerous quotes from people like Netanyahu, and others, where they’re basically boasting about how 9/11 has benefited Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And there’s one quote where one Israeli, counter counter-terrorism analyst, or whatever, is talking about how 9/11 was the “<em>greatest public relations event ever carried out, in the jews favor.</em>” I mean, it’s really incredible some of the things that you can find online and verify for yourself. Just how really, truly, how obvious all of this is! How transparent their whole agenda is!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah! On September eleventh, James Bennett, <strong><em>The New York Times</em></strong>, interviewed Bibi Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu. And asked him:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“How will this affect Israeli-American relations?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Netanyahu said right away without, you know, skipping a beat, he said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s very good!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then he checked himself:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Well, it’s not very good, but it’ll generate immediate sympathy!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And as he said, a few years later, he spoke to an Israeli audience and told them that:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Israel is benefiting from one thing” he said. “And that is the attack on the World Trade Center, and the Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so how does Israel benefit? Well, Israel is benefiting, because the Israeli strategic plan, the <strong>Yinon Plan</strong> is calling for the destruction of Iraq, and Syria, and host of other Arab countries, was being fulfilled, is being fulfilled by the American struggle in Iraq! And now the American struggle in Iraq, and Syria.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[36:06]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Americans need to understand this “<em>War on Terror</em>” is really an Israeli war of aggression and conquest, being disguised in the pretext of fighting terrorism!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Right! And yeah and that’s really what your book, your latest book anyways, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. That’s really what it’s all about! Like kind of the origins of this idea of a global war on terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I wanted to spend some time and talk about this, a little bit. Because I found this so fascinating, researching 9/11. How this whole narrative, this whole paradigm of international relations — that’s really what it is — it not only goes back to the 1970s, but it was literally, like concocted and manufactured by people like Benjamin Netanyahu, and other hardline zionists in Israel. Like geo-political and military strategists, who were working in cahoots, working hand in hand, with the neo-cons in America. They were kind of formulating this idea, this narrative of a global war on terrorism.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they had been talking about, for years, how they needed a “<em>catalyzing event</em>”, a new “<em>Pearl Harbor</em>” to kind of kick-start it, and get it going. And they again, they openly wrote about this in some of their public policy papers. The PNAC document, that everybody knows about, “<strong><em>Rebuilding America’s Defenses</em></strong>”. It explicitly says this.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> You know:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“We need a new Pearl Harbor to kick-start this, otherwise the American people are not going to go along with it.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And again, of course, that’s obviously what 9/11 was.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So can you kind of address this, the origins of the global war on terrorism? I know Benjamin Netanyahu organized a conference in 1979, if I’m not mistaken.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Which was kind of, you know what kick started all of this yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes. That conference, the <strong>Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism</strong>, was July second, third, fourth, I think, 1979. As I said, it was held at the Netanyahu Institute. It was organized and arranged by the Prime Minister, <strong>Menachem Begin</strong>, who was the arch terrorist of the Irgun, of Israeli history, zionist history. And this was the plan that they put into effect, and rolled out in 1979. And the thing is, is that at the same time that they rolled out this plan, the Israeli chief of the Mossad, Isser Harel, predicted to an American, that Arabs would attack the tallest building in York City. And that happened, you know, with 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21022" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg" alt="" width="666" height="863" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg 666w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-232x300.jpg 232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 666px) 100vw, 666px" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Another Israeli filmmaker named Arnon Milchan, a senior Israeli intelligence agent, made a film called “<strong><em>The Medusa Touch</em></strong>”, in which he depicted a Boeing 747 crash into the Pan Am building. And at the same time they began calling for this “<em>War on Terror</em>” in 1979. So all of this activity, calling for a “<em>War on Terror</em>” and a terrible terrorist atrocity to befall the United States, this came out in the late 1970s. And this is the time when the terrorist parties, as I said, the Irgun and the Stern gang, when the leaders of these terror parties, organizations, came to power in Israel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they came to power in 1977, and they began their agenda! There’s an interesting note, that in 1979 the Israelis were occupying Lebanon. They began a terrorist operation of putting bombs, car bombs, and truck bombs, throughout Lebanon, to stir up problems, and foment war. And this is documented in the one of the books called, “<strong><em>Rise and Kill First</em></strong>”, written by an Israeli, <strong>Ronen Bergman</strong>.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20707" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg" alt="" width="673" height="940" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg 673w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman-215x300.jpg 215w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 673px) 100vw, 673px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:48]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But it’s interesting that this, the fact that Israel was running this terror operation for four years from 1979 to 1983, in Lebanon, killing thousands of people! It’s documented in the book. It’s not discussed in the US media, because if the American jew, and the American public, understands Israel’s history of terrorism, they would understand that Israel is behind 9/11! Behind the bombing of the Marine barracks in 1983, most likely! And scores of other bomb attacks, and fomenting war in the Middle East! And that, would let the cat out of the bag!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! Yeah, and this, what you are about here, the Israelis running, like, this terror ring, or whatever, in Lebanon. They were basically setting up, it was like false-flag terrorism, essentially. They were setting up attacks and trying to get the different factions in Lebanon, fighting against each other. Is that basically what was going on?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes. Exactly!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Well, I think you’re right! I mean, that is their MO. I mean, they have a long history of staging false flag attacks, which is why it should surprise no one that they were really behind 9/11. This is just, you know how they’ve always operated, going back to the very founding of the jewish state of Israel.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> I tend to think that a lot of what we have seen over the years in Iraq, especially, certainly, what we see in Syria right now. We see these various radical terrorist groups, that are in many cases funded and directed by Western intelligence. And they’re used to just totally destabilize the sovereign governments of these countries.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Again, I mean, this is very clearly on display with what’s going on in Syria, where all of these rebel groups are in cahoots with the CIA, and British intelligence. They’re getting funding from, in some cases, like these international organizations, like George Soros, for example. There’s even reports in mainstream media, where Israel is providing medical aid to these people, as they are wounded in battle! It’s really incredible! Even what’s admitted in the mainstream press.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> But this to me is really kind of what the whole, … this is, how the global “<em>War on Terror</em>” is perpetuated, is that it is all entirely manufactured. And I’m frankly not really convinced that there is this threat of radical Islamic terrorism. I mean, I don’t think that people from Middle East, Muslims from the Middle East should be coming over to Europe. I certainly don’t think we should be over there, and they shouldn’t be in our countries. But this idea that they pose this huge threat to us, is just totally nonsense! And it’s clear that this is entirely manufactured by these intelligence agencies, to foment this strife, and to perpetuate the “<em>Global War on Terrorism</em>”!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right! That’s right! And the people that became all Qaeda were trained in Pakistan in the early eighty’s, by Israeli military intelligence, under the command of Ehud Barak. You know, this is a little known fact, that when “<em>Charlie Wilson’s War</em>” began, with US funding, and Saudi, funding, the people who were training, and arming, and training these Arabs who became all-Qaeda, was Israeli Military Intelligence, under Ehud Barak!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. The same person who was on TV on 9/11 telling Americans, and the rest of the world, what was going to happen in the aftermath! It’s gosh, again, it’s just so very transparent and obvious what is going on!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I want to ask a little bit more about the whole “<em>Global War on Terrorism</em>”. We go back to this conference. There were terrorist events leading up to 9/11, but 9/11 is really like the main catalyst, that kind of totally changed American foreign policy.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Could you maybe talk a little bit about, like the history of some of this false like terrorism, and really kind of the strategy that these Israeli military strategists have pursued? And what their agenda is?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. Yeah, the Israeli use of false flag terrorism against the United States, is something I talk about in my latest presentation. Because it goes back to the foundation of the state of Israel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Even before the state of Israel, Israel was bombing British embassies in Rome, and other places, Egypt. In the 1950s Shimon Peres <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Szymon Persky]</strong></span>with Moshe Dayan, they were bombing, using nitroglycerin bombs and Egyptian terror cells, to bomb British and American facilities in Cairo, in Egypt, in order to drive a wedge between the United States and Nasser, not just Egypt.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then there was, the Israelis with massacre, they would murder anybody who got in their way, whether it’s the British official for the Middle East, Lord Moyne, or the Count Folke Bernadotte, who was the United Nations mediator to Palestine in the aftermath of the partition plan of 1947.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then they would attack Americans directly! Like with the <strong>USS Liberty</strong>, in 1967, when they attacked this American ship in international waters, murdering thirty-four Americans in one fell swoop! And causing casualties to two-thirds of the ship’s crew. And this was another false flag operation, to drive the American policy against the Arabs!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Andrew-Hitchcock-Erasing-the-Liberty-—-COVER.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21085" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Andrew-Hitchcock-Erasing-the-Liberty-—-COVER.jpg" alt="" width="710" height="1097" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Andrew-Hitchcock-Erasing-the-Liberty-—-COVER.jpg 710w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Andrew-Hitchcock-Erasing-the-Liberty-—-COVER-194x300.jpg 194w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Andrew-Hitchcock-Erasing-the-Liberty-—-COVER-663x1024.jpg 663w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>See:</strong><a style="color: #008000;" href="https://katana17.com/wp/2017/06/18/andrew-hitchcock-erasing-the-liberty-the-50th-anniversary-of-israels-attack-on-america-transcript/" rel="next">Andrew Hitchcock – Erasing the Liberty – The 50th Anniversary Of Israel’s Attack On America — TRANSCRIPT</a></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that’s what they’re always trying to do. There was a bombing in Lebanon in 1983, against the Marine barracks at the Beirut Airport. Time, and time again, you know, we find Israeli operations against American military, American targets, designed to create hatred, or ill will, on the part of the American public, or the American government against the Arabs.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And 9/11 was simply their masterstroke, if you will!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That was the event that really panned out for them! And it’s been very successful, you have to say. But it’s only successful, because the media in our country, the United States, does not investigate the crime itself. And as I said, the actual person who was supposed to investigate the crime, did not investigate the crime! It was declared an “<em>act of war</em>” and United States went promptly to war. And there we’ve been ever since! For seventeen years now!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[46:23]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes, it’s truly outrageous!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, you know, there has been a lot of anti-Arab, anti-Muslim propaganda put out by the media, also by Hollywood. There is a documentary I remember watching a few years ago. I think it’s called “<em>Real Bad Arabs</em>”, or something like that. Where it kind of goes through and shows all of the anti-Muslim, anti-Arab propaganda that have been in Hollywood movies, and TV shows, and stuff like that. So, on the one hand Muslims and Arabs are highly demonized, and we’re made to think that they pose this grave threat to us. Where, on the other hand, they’re now being encouraged to resettle as refugees in Europe, and also in America. It’s so backwards! It’s like we’re supposed to hate them, and yet welcome them at the same time! Have you noticed this phenomenon? It’s insane!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And, of course, it’s the, frankly, the organized jewish community that is largely pushing this idea that we need to accept more refugees. Groups like the ADL, and the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, and many other jewish, you know, organized jewish groups, they’re largely behind this push So it’s really, talk about Orwellian! I mean, we’re supposed to hate them, and be fighting and killing them over in their own countries, and yet welcoming them into ours, as refugees! It’s really insane! Have you studied this at all?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh yeah! Well what’s being done, is that they’re trying to depopulate regions of the Middle East, that the, … They’re trying to, as I said, this is a plot to redraw the map of Middle East. And so, like last summer the United States was involved militarily with the Kurdish allies, so-called allies, attacking Mosul, the second largest city in Iraq, and Rocca in Syria.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And we basically, with our “<em>Kurdish allies</em>”, laid waste to these cities, and caused a great deal of migration from the cities. Because they want to depopulate these areas! They want to depopulate and move, transfer, populations around, like they did back in 47, 48. In order to create space for this “<em>Greater Israel</em>” project. They want to expand Israel, make it a larger state. And in order to do so, they need to depopulate certain regions. And at the same time, by sending these people to Europe, they’re trying to cause ill will against the Muslims, you know, as a reaction. So we’re getting, of course, this resurgence of Right wing elements in Europe, because they’re responding, they’re reacting to this forced migration that is being imposed on them.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[49:08]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes. It’s a destabilization template that has worked very, very well! I mean, they’re destabilizing the Middle East. That’s really what the whole “<em>Global War on Terrorism</em>” is! It’s destabilizing the Middle East, overthrowing the sovereign governments to advance Israeli hegemony in the region, and using American military and financial might.</p>
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<p>I mean, it’s not even as if the Israelis are themselves doing this, they’re getting us to fight their battles for them! And it’s also destabilizing our countries by flooding Europe, especially. It seems like it is really kind of bearing the brunt of this, where, every day, a boatload of “<em>refugees</em>” from Africa and the Middle East show up. And they’re all presented as “<em>refugees</em>” that are fleeing persecution. When in reality most of them are young men of fighting age, that are probably criminals. And yet, you know, Europe is supposed to welcome these people with open arms! It’s a total destabilization template, working perfectly.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Absolutely! And Gadhafi warned of this! He warned the West, that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“If you remove me, as the head of Libya, you will be taking the cork out of the bottle!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That bottle being, Africa. And that’s exactly what’s happened. These boatloads of refugees are coming from Libya, which is now a fractured, failed state, where the oil is being produced, but the state doesn’t work. And these African, and other refugees, are flooding into Italy, through Sicily, and the islands, which is very close to Libya. Gadhafi was absolutely right!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, the West certainly knew, the Europeans and the Americans, certainly knew, that if they removed Gadhafi, this migration, this increased migration from Africa, would result as a direct consequence. And it has!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah. And in my view, I think it is actually a part of their agenda. A key part of their agenda. Not only destabilizing Europe and America, and traditional Western countries, but basically, you know, displacing the traditional people that founded and built these countries, and replacing them with migrants from the Third World. I think that’s a key aspect of what’s going on as well. And the global war on terrorism has facilitated this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I wanted to ask you, I kind of want to wrap up here, we’ve got about ten more minutes, or so. When is the global war on terrorism ever going to actually end? From what I can tell it’s this, like Orwellian, never-ending nightmare! Again, I just wrote a piece about this where, there’s reports coming out about how “<em>extreme</em>” quote, unquote, “<em>extremism</em>” is a greater threat today than it was on 9/11! And we’ve got to double down in Afghanistan! And keep fighting in Iraq! And carry on what we’re doing in Syria, and maybe invade Iran next! It’s like they’re just perpetuating this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I mean, when is this nightmare ever going to end?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Exactly! That’s the point! When is the nightmare going to end? And again, that’s why I wrote the book, because until the American people realize the fraud of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and 9/11, until they realize that, they will be unable to resist the war! Because as long as Americans believe that we’re actually fighting terrorism, which would be a good thing. If they, as long as they believe the cover story, they will not resist the war.! And they haven’t! They haven’t! And that’s the problem! The war is destroying us! Destroying our societies, as you said. And yet there’s no virtually no resistance, politically, or from the public, about this “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And God forbid, if these people continue with their agenda, they will take this country to war with Iran, and perhaps with Russia, because this is like this “<em>War on Terror</em>” goes on, and on, and on!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Very much like another Arnon Milchan film, called “<strong><em>Brazil</em></strong>”, which he made in 1986, in which a futuristic film, in which, the nation was constantly involved in this war, this distant war against terrorists. And that’s where we are!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The American media, the US media never talks, or shows us images of what’s going on in Syria, or Iraq. It’s just like it’s happening there on the fringe, far from our consciousness. Something we don’t see, out of sight, out of mind! And as long as it remains out of sight, out of mind, it will go on! As long as we give our tacit approval by not protesting. We have to come around and understand that we’ve been lied to! We’ve been cheated! We’re being plundered! And we have to resist the war!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[53:52]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> I completely agree with you! And that’s why I’ve continued to talk about 9/11. And I mean, really if you think about it, 9/11 is the main pillar of our foreign policy. It’s the main paradigm that has a profound influence on our understanding of the world, certainly what’s going on in the Middle East.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it transcends Middle East. Look at what’s happened with our airports, for example, in this whole Orwellian concept of Homeland Security, which comes directly from Israel. Once again! Israeli police advisors, they’re training our FBI, training our local law enforcement, basically propagandizing our own law enforcement into their own narratives, where everyone is a suspect. Everyone’s a potential terrorist! So it impacts not only our foreign policy, but also what’s going on domestically.</p>
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<p>This war is never going to end! Nothing is ever going to get solved unless we get to the bottom of 9/11, and start arresting the people responsible! And that leads me to one of the most important questions I want to ask you.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you were in charge of an official investigation into 9/11, and you had the ability to arrest and interrogate, who would you choose, who are the top 9/11 suspects, in your mind?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I would start by a purge, arresting the people who are clearly involved in the cover up, and the non-investigation. So, you know, it would involve arresting George Bush, the President, Cheney, Michael Chertoff, Larry Silverstein. All the people that you can see are involved in the crime itself, or the cover up, or the deception. And it would also involve a lot of the heads of media. Because the media is who interprets reality for us politically, and the media has for seventeen years, covered up 9/11, knowing full well that they were omitting important facts from the public narrative!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, you would have to arrest these people, and give them the treatment that they dished out to people, like in Guantanamo! Whereby, you know, enhanced interrogation, to find out what they know. But, <strong>Rahm Emanuel</strong> would be one of them, as well. The mayor of Chicago, because he was involved in the setting up of the crime scene during the Clinton administration.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[56:16]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh wow! Yeah! I didn’t even think about Rahm Emanuel. But that would not surprise me, if he was tied in with what was going on a 9/11.</p>
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<p>I don’t for sure, for me, it would definitely be Larry Silverstein, and it would be definitely be Michael Chertoff! I mean, in my mind, those are the top suspects right there!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Absolutely!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> If we arrested those individuals, I think we could really unravel what actually happened on 9/11. Because in my view, I mean, I’m not really sure what exactly happened, how they were able to do this. There’s a lot of debate online, and over the years, that’s been a huge focus of the 9/11 truth movement, is how it was actually done. You know, was it mini nukes, or thermite? There’s all these different theories and ideas. In my view they’re interesting and worth pursuing. But, at the end of the day, this is the most important aspect, is we got to understand who is responsible for it? Who benefited from it? And what agenda it served?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that’s what your work is all about. And that’s what people need to understand. Because, again, it’s very clear, it’s very obvious, it’s very easy to demonstrate all this stuff that we’re saying! Again, it’s not some ridiculous theory that we’re making up, or inferring! It’s not conjecture. I mean, this is easily prove. You could verify everything we’ve said in this entire discussion for yourself! Very easily, just using, Google, for example.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s right! That’s right. And that’s why, again, that’s why I wrote the book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. And I made it very small and concise, so people can share it with other people. It’s affordable, the book cost fifteen dollars online. And you can give it to your neighbor, and share it. Because, we have to inform our fellow citizens of the dire straits we’re in! Because, as you say, if we don’t end this war, it will end us! I mean, it really will! It will! It will destroy the country!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh my gosh! It’s practically destroyed the country! It’s certainly bankrupted the country. I mean, we spent, I don’t know how much, we talked about this previously. Some reports are four trillion! Trump, you have a quote here from Trump on your website.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I wanted to wrap up actually with this. You wrote a memo to President Trump. And right at the very beginning you quote. You have a quote here from him, where he says:</p>
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<h3>“We have spent seven trillion dollars! Trillion with a that! Seven trillion dollars in the Middle East. And, you know what we have for it? Nothing! We have nothing for it!”</h3>
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<p>I’ve been on the “<em>Trump Train</em>”, I’m not going to lie! I was very inspired by his candidacy. And I think he’s saying a lot of important things. And he’s been critical of the wars in the Middle East, although he’s not really doing much to stop them, at this point. He also hasn’t done a whole lot to build the wall, and all that other stuff he said. But, I think he has a much different political actor than anybody I’ve ever seen, anyways.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, do you want to maybe wrap up on this? What are your thoughts on Trump? Do you think he’s actually ever going to do anything about 9/11? And I guess, what is the state of the 9/11 Truth Movement? See, in my view, in my personal experience, people are more receptive to this information, than it any other time I’ve been involved in this. I can say that for sure.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well I mean, if you explain to people how this war is detrimental to our nation, and to our prestige, and to our moral fiber. It distorts everything about us, it distorts the public, it brutalizes our society. If you start from that, and explain how 9/11 was done to make this war happen, people be more receptive.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I don’t know what Trump’s going to do, and I’ve sent him open letters, and sent in my books. And I hope that he would understand the need to end this war. Because, as you said, he said “<em>seven trillion dollars</em>”. And people will argue about this figure, but in that figure, he’s including interest on the payments on the debt, and future costs that have been already incurred that would be paid out in the future. So he’s not exaggerating. It has cost that much money!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">As I said, as long as the most expensive war history, and we have to really lean on our politicians, including Donald Trump, to end this war! Because this war is so destructive of our nation, and the world! And it has to end! We can’t allow this Israeli nightmare to distort our lives, going forward! We have to come out of this Israeli nightmare! This is, you know, “<em>Milchan movie</em>”, and reclaim our history, reclaim our integrity, and end the war!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yeah! Reclaim our reality! Our reality! We’ve been living in this “<em>artificial reality</em>” for so long. You use that term in the book. And it’s one I’ve heard, you know, John Kaminski, for example. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with him, I’ve been following his work for a number of years, and he uses that phrase, “<em>artificial reality</em>”. That’s exactly what 9/11 has done! It has created this “<em>artificial reality</em>”, that our entire foreign policy is revolving around. It’s very easy to demonstrate this, and it’s totally unacceptable, and outrageous! Everybody should be speaking out against this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And I think reading a book like yours, and in following your work, and following your website, will really give people some clarity on these subjects. And allow them to come to these conclusions, and really kind of figure out 9/11, basically.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20731" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters.jpg" alt="" width="702" height="914" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters.jpg 702w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Realist-Report-with-Chris-Bollyn-911-Bollyns-books-ISIS-Why-it-Matters-230x300.jpg 230w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes, I hope so! Because, as you say, this artificial reality, they’re trying to make our country, the United States of America, the “<em>Greater Israel</em>”! So that we are like Israelis, that we’re constantly at war. We’re fighting, fighting, fighting, and terrorizing the world!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We don’t want that reality! Thank you very much! We want America back the way it should be! And we want to throw off these Israeli spectacles, and this artificial reality that they have imposed on us, and get back to our reality! You know, thank you very much. You said it very well.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Yes sir! Yeah, thanks man! Chris we’ll go ahead and wrap up now. I want to kind of plug your Web site real quick. Because you can pretty much find all of your information, your contact, all of the books that you have for sale. Just right out, Bollyn dot com, correct?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. And I have a special deal that I offer, the entire set, three books. The two “<strong><em>Solving 9/11</em></strong>” books, and the “<strong><em>War on Terror</em></strong>” book for fifty dollars donation. And that you can do through Bollyn dot com, or through Pay Pal.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And all I ask is that people give me a mailing address, and a phone number, and a fifty dollars donation, and I’ll send a set of books. And that’s like twenty-five dollars cheaper than they would get it from Amazon dot com. So, and that includes shipping.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Oh! There you go!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> So it’s a good deal.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> That’s a hell of a deal! Yeah. Do you do sign those books that you send out?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No, I can’t sign books, if I’m not at an event, because the books and I, are in different places. The books are produced, … so when I do an event then I can sign books. And if you get the book now, or the book in the future, I can send them a bookmark, you know, signed bookmark. But that’s best I can do, about signing them.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[63:25]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Very good! Well, I certainly encourage all of our listeners to support your work and to purchase your books. I have all of your books. I picked up the most recent book, down there to say the San Diego for 9/11 Truth event. So, I think you’re doing great work! I’m glad that you’re still out there talking about 9/11, going to events, speaking to public audiences, and really engaging people! I think you do a great job!</p>
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<p>You put on a great presentation every time I’ve ever seen you, whether it’s on YouTube, or in real person. And you’ve been a big influence, and you’re just really an inspirational figure in my development, in my thinking, in my writing! So I want to thank you very much for taking the time, Chris. I really appreciate it!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Thank you John. It’s been a pleasure talking to you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> All right. Well, I will talk to you again, real soon.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Okay, thank you very much.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Friend:</strong> Okay, thanks.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[64:12]</strong></span></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#160; [Adam Green from &#8220;Know More News&#8221; interviews (Sept, 2017) Christopher Bollyn the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World&#8221; and his newest book, &#8230; <a href="https://katana17.com/2018/09/11/know-more-news-christopher-bollyn-the-man-who-solved-9-11-transcript/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">[<strong>Adam Green</strong> from &#8220;<strong><em>Know More News</em></strong>&#8221; interviews (Sept, 2017) <strong>Christopher Bollyn</strong> the investigative reporter who has been studying 9-11 from day one, and is the author of &#8220;<em><strong>Solving 9-11: The Deception That Changed the World</strong></em>&#8221; and his newest book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;">Christopher Bollyn&#8217;s work proves beyond any doubt that 9-11 was carried out by organized jewry through Israel and zionists within the US, to create their &#8220;<em>War on Terror</em>&#8220;, aka, &#8220;<strong><em>War OF Terror</em></strong>&#8220;, in order to justify the smashing of Arab countries, and others, to pieces, as part of  a larger New World Order agenda.</span></p>
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Christopher Bollyn<br />
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<h1 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Man Who Solved 9-11</span></h1>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Christopher Bollyn: The Man Who Solved 9/11</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;">Investigative journalist, 9/11 researcher, and author Christopher Bollyn sits down with Adam Green and Know More News for an exclusive interview.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">We discuss:<br />
His Books and Tour<br />
Israeli Role in 9/11<br />
Predictive Programming<br />
Alex Jones controlled opposiiton<br />
and much more!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">Buy Christopher Bollyns Books!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a class="yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSolving-9-11-Deception-Changed-World%2Fdp%2F0985322586&amp;redir_token=Xn7gDcsNj2xAYzYFhRODGWKuMgN8MTUzNDU5MjcwMEAxNTM0NTA2MzAw&amp;v=pLWIV0TTcbI&amp;event=video_description">https://www.amazon.com/Solving-9-11-D&#8230;</a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><a class="yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string" href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bollyn.com%2F&amp;redir_token=Xn7gDcsNj2xAYzYFhRODGWKuMgN8MTUzNDU5MjcwMEAxNTM0NTA2MzAw&amp;v=pLWIV0TTcbI&amp;event=video_description">http://www.bollyn.com/</a></p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;">CONTENTS</span></h3>
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<p><a href="#bollynkmn-00">INTRODUCTION</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-01">Current Tour</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-02">About the People Who Attend Your Talks</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-03">ADL and the SPLC Attempts to Disrupt</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-04">Netanyahu and Terrorism</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-05">Rupert Murdoch, Jewish Ownership of the Media</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-06">The Current State of the 9/11 Movement?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-07">What We Want!</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-08">The Oded Yinon Plan to Fragment Arab Countries</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-09">Bollyn’s Views on Trump and 9/11</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-10">Do You Ever Think of Giving Up?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-11">When Do You Debate People on 9/11?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-12">What are the Demographics of the 9/11 Truth Movement?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-13">The 2006 CNN Hit Job on You</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-14">How Many Americans Question the Official Conspiracy?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-15">What About the Muslim World?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-16">What’s the Evidence that Jews did 9/11?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-17">Give Us a List of the Evidence of Israeli Involvemnet</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-18">The 1979 Netanyahu “Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism”</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-19">Michael Chertoff and other Top Connections</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-20">The Cover-up and Destruction of Evidence</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-21">Philip Zelikow and the “9/11 Commission Report”</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-22">The Need for a Real Investigation of 9/11 and Cover-up</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-23">The 4,000 Israelis Who Didn’t Show Up on 9/11?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-24">CNN with Michael Gross Saying Jews are being Scapegoated</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-25">Criticism of Israel and Jews involved in 9/11 is “Anti-semitic”!</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-26">Solving a Crime Means Going where the Evidence Leads</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-27">Did You Ever Think You Might Be Wrong?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-28">9/11 And the &#8220;War on terror&#8221; an Israeli, Zionist Operation</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-29">What About Jesuits, Rothschilds, Rockerfellers?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-30">Predictive Programming, Arnon Milchan, and Rupert Murdoch</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-31">Alternative Media, Controlled Opposition, and Alex Jones</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-32">What About the Bible, and the “Synagogue of Satan”?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-33">Your Letter to the Pope, Did He Respond?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-34">What is Hindering People from Speaking Out?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-35">Shimon Perez Wanting to Frighten the West into Supporting Israel&#8217;s Aims</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-36">Who Were the Top Three People Involved in Planning 9/11?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-37">Menachem Begin, the Father of Terrorism</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-38">Your Place in History When the Truth of 9/11 is Known?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-39">Do You Ever Fear for Your Life for Exposing the People Behind 9/11?</a></p>
<p><a href="#bollynkmn-40">Everyone Needs to Read Bollyn&#8217;s Books!</a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> I’m Adam Green with No More News. Today I’m joined by author and 9/11 researcher, <strong>Christopher Bollyn</strong>. Christopher Bollyn dot com. He’s got two books. His new book, “<strong><em>The War on Terror — The Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”, and his previous book, from, &#8230;  What year did “<strong><em>Solving 9/11</em></strong>”, come out?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> 2012.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> 2012. “<strong><em>Solving 9/11 — The Deception that Changed the World</em></strong>”. Two books that are the best books on 9/11, in my opinion. They point out the who, why, and how!</p>
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<p>So Chris, thanks for coming in and talking with me today.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> You’re welcome!</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-01"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Current Tour</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So, tell me about the tour. How many stops have you made so far, and how many more do you have?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well the tour just started in the first week of September. I’ve been, about, to half a dozen places, and I’ve got about, a dozen, or so, more.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> And this isn’t your first tour. You did two tours for “<strong><em>Solving 9-11</em></strong>”?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No. This is the sixth tour. First tour was in the fall of 2014, and there’s been five since then.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Five. And these are mostly in the US, or you’ve gone around the world as well?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> These are the US tours, I’m talking about. I’ve also done some tours in Europe.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah, and how are you received in America, compared to other countries?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I’m received everywhere pretty well, with the exception of places where there’s a kind of orchestrated protest, like in Brooklyn, or Tucson. But generally, you know, if somebody invites me to a place, like a public library, then usually the event goes ahead with no problem. Public libraries are in fact, you know, a bastion of free speech in this country.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> On your book tour you give the your presentations, and they’re available online. There’s several of them on YouTube. Really good, lots of information. What are the type of people that come out to protest the events? Talk to me about the protesters.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[02:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5701-Protesters-new.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21040" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5701-Protesters-new.jpg" alt="" width="998" height="627" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5701-Protesters-new.jpg 998w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5701-Protesters-new-300x188.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5701-Protesters-new-768x483.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 998px) 100vw, 998px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, there was a small protest in Tucson, and they were an organized group. But there was a bigger protest in Brooklyn.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5702-Daily-Beast-Protesters-copy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21039" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5702-Daily-Beast-Protesters-copy.jpg" alt="" width="641" height="594" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5702-Daily-Beast-Protesters-copy.jpg 641w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5702-Daily-Beast-Protesters-copy-300x278.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 641px) 100vw, 641px" /></a></p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5703-Forward-anti-semite.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20989" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5703-Forward-anti-semite.jpg" alt="" width="681" height="557" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5703-Forward-anti-semite.jpg 681w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5703-Forward-anti-semite-300x245.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 681px) 100vw, 681px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that was done by a group, a jewish group, for “<strong><em>Racial and Economic Equality</em></strong>”, something of that nature. And when you go to their website and look at who funds them, you see that <strong>Larry Silverstein</strong> and <strong>Clara Silverstein</strong> are two of the main funders, and their organizations.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21045" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg" alt="" width="729" height="378" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy.jpg 729w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2059-Larry-Silverstein-super-Zionist-UJA-board-member-and-Frank-Lowy-300x156.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 729px) 100vw, 729px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Well, there’s no conflict of interest there!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No! <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[smiling]</strong></span><br />
</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So well, how other protesters behave when they’re there? Are they violent?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well! In Brooklyn they were quite out of line. They would come into the event, they would start shouting. They did everything they could to disrupt it, to intimidate people. It was really quite obnoxious!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5704-ADL.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20990" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5704-ADL.jpg" alt="" width="644" height="537" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5704-ADL.jpg 644w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5704-ADL-300x250.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 644px) 100vw, 644px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They were shouting and they had some burly guy, who was pushing people around. And they were just being really obnoxious. And so, the Brooklyn police had to come out to, you know, escort me out from the premises safely.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[03:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Good. I’m glad that they were there to protect you.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> They were very good.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-03"><span style="color: #ff0000;">ADL and the SPLC Attempts to Disrupt</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So, I read a few of the articles on the ADL and SPLC. You’re like one of their enemy number ones. And they had like a organized campaign to try to have people cancel your events. And they try to pressure the venues.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. I don’t know who’s behind that, but there’s a fellow in Canada and some other people, who take it upon themselves to contact venues and to threaten them, threaten the venue’s in order that they will pull the event. And that has happened, that’s happened before in Massachusetts and New York.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> How does that make you feel when they cancel your event and stop your free speech? Even though it’s so fact-based. Like they can’t even stop and have a dialogue and a discourse, and listen to you.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, yeah! It’s like what I tell the protesters. I tell the protesters, you know:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8220;<em>Come inside and listen to the presentation, and you can ask your questions afterwards. We can talk about this.</em>&#8220;</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But they’re not willing to do that. They’re not wanting to have a discussion.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s the same thing with these other detractors. They don’t want to discuss the evidence! They don’t want to discuss 9/11 facts. They simply want to attack me, calling me an &#8220;<em>anti-semite</em>&#8220;, or a &#8220;<em>Nazi</em>&#8220;, or something like that. It&#8217;s the end of the discussion.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> There’s a picture of you online on one of these sites and it says, I think the headline was like:</p>
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<blockquote>
<h3>&#8220;Oh! You didn’t know the Nazi speaking at your event?&#8221;</h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>And they have a picture of you, like behind some like German lettering. Have you seen that picture?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5705-Guest-is-a-Nazi.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20991" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5705-Guest-is-a-Nazi.jpg" alt="" width="620" height="596" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5705-Guest-is-a-Nazi.jpg 620w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5705-Guest-is-a-Nazi-300x288.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh, they have a picture of me, and I think you’re talking about the picture from, in Germany? I was at the train station and Mannsee. And it has the old gothic text, &#8220;<em>Mannsee Station</em>&#8220;. I lived in Mannsee. What’s the big deal?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah! It’s not like you’re wearing a swastika or anything.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes, right. Thank you.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Anybody that’s been to Germany is apparently a Nazi! So, how about the people that are in support, that come out to the event? Are there other people that like are on the fence, or is everybody mostly supporters?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5706-being-interviewed.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20992" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5706-being-interviewed.jpg" alt="" width="723" height="620" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5706-being-interviewed.jpg 723w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5706-being-interviewed-300x257.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 723px) 100vw, 723px" /></a></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[05:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, that’s hard to say, It depends where I’m speaking. I’ve spoken in places like Spokane, Washington, where when I asked the people about their feelings on Israel, about half the audience was Christian zionists.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, it depends where I’m speaking.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But most people are interested, obviously. And I would say most of them are actually supportive of my position. There they’re familiar with it, because it’s a group of people who are quite awake. And they’re very much aware of 9/11 research, that come to my presentations, generally.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s not people that don’t know anything about it. The average person who doesn’t know anything about 9/11, is not interested in 9/11 for a reason. They’re in denial, they don’t want to talk about. It scares them!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So the people come to my event, I often say, are some of the most extraordinary people in America. Because they have moral courage and they have the intelligence to understand that they’ve been lied to!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[06:03]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-04"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Netanyahu and Terrorism</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Speaking of moral courage, that’s a good segue to go to one of the quotes in your book, which is from Netanyahu in his book, &#8230; What is his book called?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> &#8220;<strong><em>Fighting Terrorism</em></strong>&#8220;, I think.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Benjamin-Netanyahu-Books.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21046" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Benjamin-Netanyahu-Books.jpg" alt="" width="626" height="883" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Benjamin-Netanyahu-Books.jpg 626w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Benjamin-Netanyahu-Books-213x300.jpg 213w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 626px) 100vw, 626px" /></a></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5707-Fighting-Terrorism-book.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20993" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5707-Fighting-Terrorism-book.jpg" alt="" width="897" height="651" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5707-Fighting-Terrorism-book.jpg 897w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5707-Fighting-Terrorism-book-300x218.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5707-Fighting-Terrorism-book-768x557.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 897px) 100vw, 897px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> &#8220;<strong><em>Fighting Terrorism</em></strong>&#8220;. And the quote is on page 50.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>&#8220;But in many cases, of course, it is perfectly possible to determine who the terrorists are and who stands behind them. If governments have failed to do this it is more often not for lack of knowledge but for lack of courage and moral clarity.&#8221;</h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>So, and that’s Netanyahu in &#8220;<strong><em>How the West Can Win</em></strong>&#8220;, 1986</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5708-Fighting-Terrorism-quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20994" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5708-Fighting-Terrorism-quote.jpg" alt="" width="637" height="598" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5708-Fighting-Terrorism-quote.jpg 637w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5708-Fighting-Terrorism-quote-300x282.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 637px) 100vw, 637px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> &#8220;<em><strong>Terrorism — How the West Can Win</strong></em>&#8220;. Yeah, right.<br />
</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah. So he’s presumably talking about, like Western governments, and then the terrorists being al-Qaeda, in this quote, right?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. He said it in nineteen, it&#8217;s from 1986, and so he’s talking about, yeah, you know, he’s probably referring generally to Palestinian, and what he called &#8220;<em>Arab terrorism</em>&#8220;, or &#8220;<em>Islamic terrorism</em>&#8220;.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[07:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> But you think that like the underlying read between the lines here, is he’s really talking about that they’re the ones that are behind the terrorism?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well, he’s not saying that, but the quotes of Netanyahu, are good for this purpose, because they’re applicable to any terrorist operation. Any terrorist thing. And so, you know, whether it’s a false flag terror operation that’s been done by the Israelis, perhaps, or something that’s a genuine act of terrorism. It goes both ways. It’s true! </span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so it’s like Netanyahu has had this, Netanyahu Institute’s been working on terrorism since like 1979. So there’s a lot of Israeli analysis and study of terrorism that goes into his comments. It’s the same thing he said about the media. He said:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8220;That the terrorists need to control the mass media!&#8221;</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, that works just as well for the Israelis, that they need to control the mass media, to get their way.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[08:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Read us that quote, too. Talk about that.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, yeah. But this is Netanyahu from the same book &#8220;<strong><em>Terrorism — How the West Can Win</em></strong>&#8220;. </span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20995" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg" alt="" width="618" height="604" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote.jpg 618w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5709-Terrorism-how-the-West-can-win-quote-300x293.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 618px) 100vw, 618px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">&#8220;But how do we form our opinions of the present? The West depends in large measure on its media. This is why terrorists, in their war against the West, devote so much of their strategy, and their effort, to capturing the Western press, and using it for their own purposes.&#8221;</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-05"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Rupert Murdoch, Jewish Ownership of the Media</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Yeah. Well if you look at the Western press and who owns, it’s a primarily owned by companies, or individuals, who are strongly zionist. Like in the case of CBS News. The President and CEO of CBS News, is a man named <strong>Leslie Moonves</strong>, who is the grand nephew of the founding Prime Minister of the state of Israel, Ben-Gurion. So it’s like, it’s not like, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5710-CBS-Leslie-Moonves.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20996" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5710-CBS-Leslie-Moonves.jpg" alt="" width="1022" height="656" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5710-CBS-Leslie-Moonves.jpg 1022w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5710-CBS-Leslie-Moonves-300x193.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5710-CBS-Leslie-Moonves-768x493.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1022px) 100vw, 1022px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Rupert Murdoch?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Rupert Murdoch, is, yeah, &#8230;<br />
</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Sumner Redstone?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[09:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. There’s many. It’s been the case all along.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in a case of people like Mr Murdoch, he was created to be the media mogul he is, with deep pocket funding from the Rothschilds. You don’t become the owner of 160 newspapers across the United States and Britain with chump change.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5711-Golan-Heights-Dick-Cheney-Company.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20997" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5711-Golan-Heights-Dick-Cheney-Company.jpg" alt="" width="650" height="551" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5711-Golan-Heights-Dick-Cheney-Company.jpg 650w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5711-Golan-Heights-Dick-Cheney-Company-300x254.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Isn’t he involved with investments in drilling with the Kushner’s in the Golan Heights, too? Have you heard of that?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes.Murdoch is a partner with the Rothschilds in the drilling on the Golan Heights, which is illegal. And the Rothschilds are also primary owners of the oil of Kurdistan, in the north of Iraq. Which will be voting for independence within a fortnight.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-06"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Current State of the 9/11 Movement?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay. All right, back to the tour. What would you say, you traveled all around the US, and all over the world. What is the state of the 9/11 truth movement? And how has it evolved over the years?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>[10:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well! How has it evolved? it’s gotten more, at this point, sixteen years later, it’s gotten more real. I mean, that people now understand more about 9/11, who did it and why they did it, because we’re sixteen years into the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. And my current tour is primarily focused on the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, because this is the ongoing crime! 9/11 was the atrocity that happened 16 years ago. 3,000 people were killed in broad daylight.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But ever since then, more and more people have been killed every day, because of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. And the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and 9/11 are like two sides of a counterfeit coin. It’s a fraud! And once people understand the 9/11 fraud, they will understand the fraud of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. But in actual reality the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is older, much older!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah. And your book gets into that via the origins, 1979, “<em>The Jerusalem Conference</em>”.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right</span>.</p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> What do you think the new 9/11 movement needs to like really get over hump, and like reach a critical mass?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[11:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, that’s a good question, because the mainstream media is not ever going to address 9/11 truth, because they’re complicit in the crime. So, what needs to happen is that we’re having a revolution of awareness in this country. People are waking up and realizing that they’ve been lied to by the media and the government, for the last 16 years, and longer.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And in the case, you know, it’s still a situation that the John F Kennedy murder is still covered up by the mainstream media and the government. So this is a, … What we hope to achieve, is that we hope that people of people of well-known reputations and means, you know, deal with 9/11 truth, come to terms with it, and embrace it! And when more and more people understand that the deception of 9/11, we hope that we can end the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[12:00]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-07"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What We Want!</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And what we really want to do is, you know, we want a proper investigation of 9/11, because it’s never been investigated at all, as a crime. The evidence was destroyed. We want to bring the guilty to account, the people who were involved in the crime and the deception, and the covering up of the crime. And we want to end the war.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We want to end the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and again prosecute those people who have been part of the war crimes that have been committed. Because the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is primarily a war of conquest and aggression that’s being waged under the pretext of fighting terrorism. But it’s not! it’s a crime!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so the war in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, these are wars of aggression! And that’s what the British inquiry the “<strong><em>Chilcott Inquiry</em></strong>” made very clear. But we haven’t had anything like the “<em>Chilcott Inquiry</em>” in this country. But we need to do that! We need to clean house! Because we can’t go forward into a into a future of peace and prosperity based on the lies that we’ve accepted for the last 16 years is true!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[13:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Do you think we need to like, mobilize around a political candidate that talks about 9/11 truth? Like somebody needs to break into politics, like maybe Tulsi Gabbard? She talks about ISIS, and funding ISIS. Have you spoken to her.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I haven’t spoken to her, but I know she had the bill to stop funding terrorists, ISIS, and what have you, in Syria.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But I think that for us to, you know, put all our chips into a political candidate, would be a mistake, because the political landscape is so tilted against us. We don’t have any Congress person calling for 9/11 truth, yet, after 16 years! Some people are calling, like Barbara Lee and Tulsi Gabbard, are calling for an end to certain aspects of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. Or, you know, renegotiating the authority to use military force, which is the funding and the authorization for the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But we need a popular resistance to this. We need, &#8230; You know, it’s like , I grew up during the Vietnam time, and there was a popular resistance to the war in Vietnam. We don’t see anything like that in this country today. 16 years! You have to remember that the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is the longest war in US history at this point! The oldest war in US history! And also the most expensive war in US history!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it like this doesn’t make any sense. You know, originally it started out to go after the terrorists who committed 9/11, you know, many of whom supposedly died on 9/11. So going after a ragtag group of students and Taliban in Afghanistan, that shouldn’t take more than a couple weeks!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, from the very beginning they said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“This is going to take decades!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, why? Because they knew that the real underlying strategy for the “<em>War on Terror</em>” was to redraw the map of the Middle East, to conquer territories, and to cut the Arab countries into pieces. And that would take some time.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[15:02]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-08"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Oded Yinon Plan to Fragment Arab Countries</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So yeah, you talk about “<em>sectarian enclaves</em>”. They want to have a Kurdistan. How does that benefit Israel, to break up their surrounding Muslim countries into smaller sectarian groups? Is it just, because they’re fighting with one another and that if there are smaller countries, that Israel is more powerful?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, yeah. First of all, if they can break up, … The “<strong><em>Yinon Plan</em></strong>”, the “<strong><em>Oded Yinon Plan</em></strong>” of 1982, made very clear that on the eastern front, Israel’s primary targets were Iraq, and Syria, in that order. And the first thing they wanted to do was to destroy the military of Iraq, and Syria. And then to fragment the country along it’s ethnic lines, or religious lines. It’s called “<em>balkanization</em>”, because it’s exactly what was done to Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was a large country, a socialist country. They broke it up into six, or seven statelets.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[16:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And for Israel that would mean that the other countries in the neighborhood would be similar ethnic States. And Israel is just another ethnic state. So they would have some moral justification in a neighborhood where everybody is similar, you know, ethnic States.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then also, they obviously weakened the big Bath states, the big Arab states, like Iraq, and Syria. Saudi Arabia is on the chopping block too. So it’s like nobody, &#8230; It’s happened to Libya, it’s happened to Lebanon, and Yemen, and Sudan. It’s the game plan.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Do you think that Saudi Arabia is going to give up some of their land to Israel? Because if you look at the “<em>Greater Israel</em>” project, the “<em>Eratz promised land</em>”, that goes into Saudi Arabia.</p>
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<p>Because it seems like they’re working together with ISIS, and they’re not exposing them for 9/11. They worked together on 9/11, and arming the Mujahideen. So is there a deal worked out, where they’re gonna give them the promised land at one point?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[17:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> I don’t know. I mean, I don’t know how it’s gonna shake out. But I have seen that the maps of this balkanization of the Middle East, do affect Saudi Arabia.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They’re trying to achieve this plan. And in Syria, right now, they’re breaking the country up into three pieces, or four pieces. And Iraq has already been broken up into three pieces. As I said, on the 25th of September, there’ll be a referendum in Kurdistan to become independent of Iraq. That’s what they want to do, but, you know, there are obstacles along the way. In the case of Syria there’s been some obstacles in the form of, you know, Iran and the Russian military.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-09"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Bollyn’s Views on Trump and 9/11</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> In the foreword to your book, <strong>Alan Sabrosky</strong> writes that you’re optimistic that Trump might disclose 9/11 truth. I’m not sure when he wrote that, if he had already bombed Syria and revamped the war in Afghanistan. But do you still have that sentiment about Trump?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[18:04]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I mean, I hope that Trump will do something about 9/11 truth, and ending the war. You know, he spoke about these things when he was, &#8230; He didn’t speak about 9/11 truth specifically, but he did talk about having better relations with Russia, ending the conflict in Syria.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he has done some good things. He’s pulled out from the CIA funding of the Syrian rebels. The war in Syria is now coming to a conclusion, largely, because the United States has pulled back support. So that’s a good thing! The sooner the war in Syria is over, the sooner we get some balance, the better. I would have, of course, preferred that Donald Trump, from the very beginning, took a more muscular policy on ending the wars in Iraq, and Syria, and Afghanistan. But, he didn’t do that.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[19:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> What do you think about his relationship with Silverstein, and Netanyahu, and the Kushner’s? Do you really think that’s possible, that there’s any chance that he will do that?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, he has had very close relations with Israelis, and Americans zionists for a long time. That doesn’t mean that he’s in cahoots with the 9/11 cover-up. I would hope that as a New Yorker, and as American, he would not cover up the truth of 9/11! Which is, you know, the fundamental thing that I’m talking about here. And as a political leader, and when he ran for office, he told his policy guy that he wants to be the most pro-Israeli candidate out there. He was saying that, because he wanted to win the election.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But, I would hope that even though he has these relations with these zionists, that he is not party to the 9/11 crime, or the cover-up.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> I think he’s a part of the cover-up, because on 9/11, he said the buildings were so strong, and he thought there was more than planes, and bombs. And then a few days later he changed his tune completely, and said that:</p>
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<h3>“Oh! It’s kamikazes, and they’re terrorists, and there’s nothing that would have stopped the buildings from coming down!”</h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. That’s right! He said on 11th of September, he said that:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“There had been, most likely, bombs that went off simultaneously with the plane impacts.”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Which is pretty true, pretty correct! I mean, a good observation. And as you said, two days later he changed his tune. So, whether somebody called him up and told him to change his tune, is most likely the case.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But that’s happened all across the US! You know, I saw a professor from New Mexico Tech, he did the same thing. On day one, he spoke truth about 9/11, ten days later he changed his tune.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[21:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And, you know, this is the politic thing to do, for these people. They want to either keep their position, they want to keep their funding, they want to stay on the right side of the tracks. And so, they go along with the cover-up.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-10"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Do You Ever Think of Giving Up?</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>Green:</strong> Can you talk about your frustration, or do you ever think about giving up the fight for 9/11?</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s a good question, because, no I haven’t. I’ve never thought about giving up! And I can tell you that it’s been very difficult! It’s been very difficult at times. But, you know, it would be worse to give up, especially knowing what I know. And having done the research that I’ve done over a period of years, it would be just stupid to give up!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But more than that, it’s like, to give up and to let the lie go on, for even one more day, it would be a sin! It’s wrong! You know, this whole thing is so wrong the way these people have hijacked our reality!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21048" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg" alt="" width="659" height="942" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage.jpg 659w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/The-War-on-Terror-Book-montage-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 659px) 100vw, 659px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The first chapter of this book “<strong><em>The War on Terror</em></strong>”, it’s like living with, &#8230; Here it is, “<em>coping with artificial reality</em>”, because in the 16 years since 9/11 that’s where this country has been! The United States has been in this artificial reality!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5717-Living-in-an-artificial-reality.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21003" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5717-Living-in-an-artificial-reality.jpg" alt="" width="763" height="642" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5717-Living-in-an-artificial-reality.jpg 763w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5717-Living-in-an-artificial-reality-300x252.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 763px) 100vw, 763px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">We’ve been given a lie about what happened on a 9/11, and based on that live we have gone to war! We’re waged war against, you know, half a dozen Islamic nations. We’ve done terrible devastation to places like Syria, and Iraq, and Afghanistan!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And we’ve done great damage to this country! The cost of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” is at least two and a half trillion dollars, right now! That’s not counting future costs down the road, which will double that. I mean, this is suicidal!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[22:58]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I love this country, and I want to see this country restore some of it’s integrity, and get back on track! It’s like the country’s been hijacked! There’s no better way to say it, the country’s been hijacked! And, you know, when the country’s been hijacked, you can’t just sit back in your first-class seat, drinking champagne, and not worry where the plane’s going! You got to turn it around! And that’s what I think, that’s my obligation, and that’s the obligation of people in the country who understand 9/11 truth!</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-11"><span style="color: #ff0000;">When Do You Debate People on 9/11?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Do you ever debate people on 9/11, like academics, or people in media? Like, does anybody step up and actually want to debate with you?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[24:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No. No, not like that. But occasionally I will take on somebody who’s critical. People who are quite critical. For example, I don’t usually get into debate with other people, or journalists, pundits, scholars, what-have-you, unless they attack 9/11 truth. I mean, one example was, I think, a man named “<em>Greg Palast</em>”. He turned against Stephen Jones. And in an interview on TV, he said:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Come at me Jones! Come at me! You’re a fraud!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And I thought:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Gee this is outrageous! Why is the attacking Professor Jones?”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Professor Jones did great research on finding the nano-thermite in the destruction of towers. And with a little investigation I found that Mr Palast has connections to Israeli intelligence. One of his uncle’s, or great uncle’s, or something like that, was no less than David Kimche, the man who was the Israeli Mossad architect of Iran-contra.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So I mean, you see, that’s kind of like where my debate goes. When people attack 9/11 truth, when they attack me as an individual, when they attack Professor Jones, or other 9/11 truth people, quite unjustly! Then I will debate them, or look into what they’re saying.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[25:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because I want to find out why they’re doing it. Because there’s no logical, or moral, justification for attacking 9/11 truth. Anyone who attacks 9/11 truth, or 9/11 truthers, is basically working for the other side.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-12"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What are the Demographics of the 9/11 Truth Movement?</span></h3>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5718-Working-for-the-other-side.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21004" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5718-Working-for-the-other-side.jpg" alt="" width="652" height="670" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5718-Working-for-the-other-side.jpg 652w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5718-Working-for-the-other-side-292x300.jpg 292w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 652px) 100vw, 652px" /></a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> What would you say the demographics of 9/11 movement are? You’ve been around the country, what is the 9/11, &#8230; How could you summarize and describe the 9/11 movement?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, I can’t speak for the whole movement, but the people that come to my events, generally tend to be older people, and people who understand the betrayal that 9/11 represents to America.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Why do you think it’s older people that come to your events?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I think there’s a couple reasons. Older people know, they know very well what we’ve lost there. And 9/11 happened when they were mature, when they were able to grasp it. And they know what’s being lost in this country!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[26:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Whereas young people who were, you know, just a couple years old when 9/11 happened, the “<em>War on Terror</em>” has been like the wallpaper in the room for them. It’s been, it is accepted. And they don’t realize what this country has lost, and what this country is losing! So, it tends to be older people.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-13"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The 2006 CNN Hit Job on You</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Now we’re gonna get into your famous CNN appearance! And do, you know what year this was?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> This was done in 2006.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> And you had to know you’re going, you’re being interviewed by CNN, and this is gonna be a total hit piece!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> They play you like 10 seconds, &#8230;</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5719-Adam-Green-in-shot.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21005" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5719-Adam-Green-in-shot.jpg" alt="" width="758" height="639" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5719-Adam-Green-in-shot.jpg 758w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5719-Adam-Green-in-shot-300x253.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 758px) 100vw, 758px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah it was done before the trial. It aired on TV the night before my trial was supposed to begin.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Wow! So it was totally, &#8230;</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, it was a hit piece!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay, so we’re gonna start it, and let me know when you want to, whenever you want to interject, and I’ll pause it.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[27:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5720-CNN-Interview.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21006" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5720-CNN-Interview.jpg" alt="" width="923" height="643" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5720-CNN-Interview.jpg 923w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5720-CNN-Interview-300x209.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5720-CNN-Interview-768x535.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 923px) 100vw, 923px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>CNN:</strong> We’ve all heard some absolutely incredible 9/11 conspiracy theories. The web, of course, is full of them! But tonight, we’re bringing one out, that feeds on racism, out in the open. We were, &#8230;</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So the introduction, what do you feel about that? They’re introducing it as “<em>this is racism</em>” right away! Not like:</p>
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<h3>“This is what some people think.”</h3>
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<p>It’s just:</p>
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<h3>“Racist! Let us introduce you to the racist!”</h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Right. Well, at the time this lady Paula Zahn. She was married to a man named Cohen, and that marriage ended a few years later. But she was put up to this. She was told that you’re gonna make this piece and we’re gonna do a piece about 9/11 and racism.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> When you talked to her and you were interviewed, how long did she actually talk to you, for?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> I didn’t talk to Paula Zahn. She’s the hostess of the show. I spoke to Deborah Feyerick, who was the person that came out to Chicago.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> And how long did they talk to you?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[27:58]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well they talked for several hours. They came to the public library. We met them there. They filmed the whole thing. And we took the precaution of recording the entire audio for ourselves. Because they, as you see, they tried to make a hit piece out of it.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Media (CNN):</strong> We’re absolutely shocked by one recent poll that found out that one in every three Americans believed the terror attacks were not the work of America’s enemies, but some sort of inside job! And <strong>Deborah Feyerick</strong> found a smaller percentage who believed in an even uglier theory.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5721-CNN-Interview-Anti-semitism-911.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21007" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5721-CNN-Interview-Anti-semitism-911.jpg" alt="" width="510" height="644" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5721-CNN-Interview-Anti-semitism-911.jpg 510w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5721-CNN-Interview-Anti-semitism-911-238x300.jpg 238w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 510px) 100vw, 510px" /></a></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-14"><span style="color: #ff0000;">How Many Americans Question the Official Conspiracy?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> One-in-three! I’ve seen stats that low, but also like 50%. So it’s like, I feel like so many people question it.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5722-Half-of-Americans-Believe-911-conspiracy-theories.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21008" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5722-Half-of-Americans-Believe-911-conspiracy-theories.jpg" alt="" width="957" height="651" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5722-Half-of-Americans-Believe-911-conspiracy-theories.jpg 957w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5722-Half-of-Americans-Believe-911-conspiracy-theories-300x204.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5722-Half-of-Americans-Believe-911-conspiracy-theories-768x522.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 957px) 100vw, 957px" /></a></p>
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<p>I go out and do interviews, people everywhere question 9/11, but I feel like the “<em>conspiracy stigma</em>” makes everybody not want to speak out about it, and not talk about it.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Hmm, well the year this video was made, 2006, was the last poll that the CBS, New York Times, did on 9/11 truth. And they asked the public, they did a poll and they found that only 18 <strong>[16]</strong> percent of the American people believed the government was being honest about 9/11. Eighty-four percent of the public thought that the government was either hiding something, or outright lying about 9/11! Eighty-four percent! So that’s the year that video was made.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-15"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What About the Muslim World?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> And the majority of the Muslim world, and you’ve gone and spoke to Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam. The majority the Muslim world, what do they think?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I don’t know. You know, the Muslim world is a very big place.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> From your experience.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, the Nation of Islam is special, because they have a very intelligent leader, and a brave man, in <strong>Minister Farrakhan</strong>, who is not afraid to address 9/11 truth. He’s the only religious leader that I know of that has national stature that takes on 9/11 truth.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[30:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5723-Minister-Farrakhan-on-911.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21009" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5723-Minister-Farrakhan-on-911.jpg" alt="" width="764" height="626" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5723-Minister-Farrakhan-on-911.jpg 764w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5723-Minister-Farrakhan-on-911-300x246.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 764px) 100vw, 764px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Farrakhan:</strong> This is something that took tremendous sophistication to do! And that sophistication was not with Osama bin Laden, or his followers! But if it was not Muslims, then who? Thanks to the exemplary work of scholars, like <strong>Victor Thorn</strong>, and <strong>Christopher Bollyn,</strong> it is now becoming apparent that there were many Israelis and zionist jews in key roles in the 9/11 attack! Now look, if they can prove me wrong, like I said, I’ll pay with my life, since they want to kill me anyway. Prove me wrong!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5724-Minister-Farrakhan-911-building-new.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21053" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5724-Minister-Farrakhan-911-building-new.jpg" alt="" width="847" height="620" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5724-Minister-Farrakhan-911-building-new.jpg 847w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/5724-Minister-Farrakhan-911-building-new-300x220.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 847px) 100vw, 847px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> And in the Muslim world, you know, outside the United States, I really don’t know what their opinion is, but I do know that in the very beginning, in a global poll that was done, seven percent of the people believed that the Israelis were behind 9/11.<span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Note the qualifier &#8220;<em>at the very beginning</em>&#8221; — k]</strong></span><br />
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Seven percent?</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[31:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes.<br />
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Cass Sunstein writes in his paper that the majority of countries, Muslim countries, believe it, and that’s why it’s so dangerous.</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5725-Cass-Sunstein-poll.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21011" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5725-Cass-Sunstein-poll.jpg" alt="" width="962" height="647" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5725-Cass-Sunstein-poll.jpg 962w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5725-Cass-Sunstein-poll-300x202.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5725-Cass-Sunstein-poll-768x517.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 962px) 100vw, 962px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> They believe?</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> That 9/11 is a conspiracy.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> And most of them think, believe, it was the jews.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5751-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21014" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5751-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg" alt="" width="658" height="926" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5751-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg 658w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5751-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn-213x300.jpg 213w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 658px) 100vw, 658px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (male):</strong> This 9/11 attack was not by 19 Arabs! It was not by Muslims!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (female):</strong> They talk about a jewish plot!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (male):</strong> Everywhere here you look you find a zionist agent.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (female):</strong> A conspiracy by Israeli intelligence.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (male):</strong> In those exact moments, a group of Mossad agents, …</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (female):</strong> Where there were zionist moles in the Bush administration allegedly calling the shots in the Middle East. Websites, magazines, documentaries, radio programs, dozens of them disputing the facts that al-Qaeda was behind the 9/11 attacks.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (male):</strong> It was done by a group of zionists.</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5752-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21015" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5752-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg" alt="" width="650" height="927" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5752-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg 650w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5752-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> Are you suggesting that al-Qaeda had nothing to do with it? That this was all part of a large conspiracy, zionist, or otherwise?</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[32:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5753-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21016" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5753-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg" alt="" width="643" height="913" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5753-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn.jpg 643w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5753-CNN-Interview-with-Bollyn-211x300.jpg 211w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 643px) 100vw, 643px" /></a></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Al-Qaeda, is in my opinion, has been exploited. I question whether such a group even exists!</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> Chicago writer, Christopher Bollyn, is one of the conspiracy theorists.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> I believe that there are Israeli elements, that are connected to the Mossad, that are involved in this attack.</span></p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> There’s no physical evidence to support claims that jews were behind 9/11, but the, …</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Some of that, “<em>no physical evidence</em>”!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Hmm.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-16"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What’s the Evidence that Jews did 9/11?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> It’s funny that they just say, this is what they believe. They don’t say any of our arguments and just claim there’s no evidence!</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[32:57]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Hmm hmm. Well, she says no “<em>physical evidence</em>”. You know, there is abundant evidence that the Israeli military intelligence was involved in the creation of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You see, when you understand that the “<em>War on Terror</em>” construct, is a construct of Israeli military intelligence, then the Israeli involvement in 9/11 makes a lot more sense.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because what you find in my 9/11 research, in “<em>Solving 9/11</em>” books, shows that at every critical point, there’s an Israeli agent involved! Or an American zionist who’s working with them.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21054" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg" alt="" width="660" height="941" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage.jpg 660w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Solving-911-Book-montage-210x300.jpg 210w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 660px) 100vw, 660px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Indisputable! Everywhere you look! You documented in your books, like, in a second, I’m gonna have you bullet point, go through all the evidence of Israeli involvement. We’ll see how many you can get in. I’ll time you for like two minutes. Can you get 50, you think?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5755-Green-with-Bollyn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21018" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5755-Green-with-Bollyn.jpg" alt="" width="1004" height="638" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5755-Green-with-Bollyn.jpg 1004w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5755-Green-with-Bollyn-300x191.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5755-Green-with-Bollyn-768x488.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1004px) 100vw, 1004px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> I don’t know.</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[chuckling]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> I bet you can!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (female):</strong> Speculation and rumors mostly discounted here in the US, had gained momentum in Muslim countries, where they’re discussed and believed.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Iman:</strong> These are zionist hands, …</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>CNN media (female):</strong> Deborah Lauter is with the jewish-run Anti-Defamation League.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5763-Deborah-Lauter-interview.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21019" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5763-Deborah-Lauter-interview.jpg" alt="" width="657" height="859" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5763-Deborah-Lauter-interview.jpg 657w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5763-Deborah-Lauter-interview-229x300.jpg 229w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 657px) 100vw, 657px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Deborah Lauter:</strong> What’s most troubling is when it reaches the internet and goes into the Muslim Arab world. We have this cross-fertilization of hate. And this is something we’ve never seen before.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> A whole web of, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Doesn’t it seem like that the ADL is trying to associate 9/11 truthers with the terrorists, like we’re terrorist sympathizers?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[34:05]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> We’re like, we’re terrorists too, essentially, is what they’re trying to say.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well she’s saying that 9/11 truth that looks at Israeli involvement in 9/11 is hateful!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Ahh hmm.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> And the thing is, first of all, we’re not talking about jews as a group, or Israelis as a nationality. We’re talking about a very small subset! </span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Obviously this was a cell that was created back in the 1970s, that took the 9/11 operation further through time. And it was a very compartmentalized group of people, and we know who some of these people are. They are all primarily, at the highest level, zionists that are part of the Likud party, military intelligence people, and people that belong to this Israeli criminal network.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5764-Paula-Zahn-interviewing-panel.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21020" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5764-Paula-Zahn-interviewing-panel.jpg" alt="" width="1008" height="990" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5764-Paula-Zahn-interviewing-panel.jpg 1008w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5764-Paula-Zahn-interviewing-panel-300x295.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5764-Paula-Zahn-interviewing-panel-768x754.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1008px) 100vw, 1008px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> You hear this stuff, and it just makes you sick to your stomach! There is absolutely no evidence! That anybody other than al-Qaeda was involved with this attack!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[35:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Absolutely no evidence!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So your challenge now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5765-Bollyns-challenge.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21021" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5765-Bollyns-challenge.jpg" alt="" width="835" height="572" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5765-Bollyns-challenge.jpg 835w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5765-Bollyns-challenge-300x206.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 835px) 100vw, 835px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-17"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Give Us a List of the Evidence of Israeli Involvement</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Israeli involvement in 9/11. Give me, let’s just do the top ten. You don’t have to get into all the details. People can watch your presentations and read your books, which they absolutely should! They should know, everybody should know this information. But, let’s go, ten bullet points of undisputed evidence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21022" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg" alt="" width="666" height="863" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch.jpg 666w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5774-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-232x300.jpg 232w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 666px) 100vw, 666px" /></a></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Okay. Well, let’s go chronologically, then. In 1978 the senior Israeli intelligence agent in Hollywood, <strong>Arnon Milchan</strong> made a film, his first film. He made it in Europe, in which a Boeing 747 crashes into a high-rise building, like the Pan Am building in New York. So that’s like “<em>ideation</em>”. Putting the idea out there.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21037" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg" alt="" width="641" height="861" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy.jpg 641w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5775-Arnon-Milchan-Medusa-Touch-copy-223x300.jpg 223w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 641px) 100vw, 641px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Was that movie, … did they already have the idea to put the plane into the tower?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Was it predictive programming, they put it out?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Or did they get the idea of 9/11 from the movie?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No. They, that’s a good question. Because what you see is in the late 1970s, Menachem Begin from the Likud, created the Likud Party in 73. Came to power in 77. And that’s when the ball started rolling. The dual ball of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” and 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So that in 1978, for example, one year after Menachem Begin becomes prime minister, Arnon Milchan makes his film, “<strong><em>The Medusa Touch</em></strong>”, in which a Boeing, a large Boeing, crashes into a big building. The same year, one year later, the former head of the Mossad, Isser Harel, the founding father of the Mossad, predicts to an American zionist, that Arabs will attack the tallest buildings in New York City. And 20 years later it happens.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[37:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay, so there’s two.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> We’re doing the <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[unclear]</strong></span> prediction to the zionists.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-18"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The 1979 Netanyahu “Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism”</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Then in 1979, the Netanyahu Institute in Jerusalem, hosts a conference called “<strong><em>The Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism</em></strong>”, in which they roll out this new doctrine that the United States and the Western democracies have to come and fight Islamic terrorism in the Middle East. Basically to protect Israel. It’s not put that way, it’s described a little bit differently. They say that terrorists attack Israel, because it’s a Western state, therefore the West has an obligation to come and protect it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> I remember hearing that on 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> That an attack on them, is really an attack on us but just closer.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Exactly!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay. So that was three, then. The conference where they rolled out the propaganda for the “<em>War on Terror</em>”.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. And then Isser Harel, a couple years later, two of his senior lieutenants, you know, Zvi Malkin </span><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Malkin, Peter “<em>Zvi</em>”]</strong></span> <span style="color: #0000ff;">and Shalom Bendor</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[Bendor, Avraham (a.k.a. Avram Shalom) ]</strong></span><span style="color: #0000ff;">, or Avraham Shalom Bendor. These names are a little bit dodgy. But these two men are senior lieutenants under Isser Harel in the Mossad. They were involved in the kidnapping of Adolf Eichmann, for example, from Argentina. They were involved in the smuggling of plutonium from Pennsylvania to Israel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So these are very high-level Mossad agents. And they come to the United States like in their 50s, or 60s, I could guess, in early 1980s, and they try to get the security contract for the World Trade Center. They get a contract in 1987 for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey for the World Trade Center, in some sort of anti-terrorism protection, for the World Trade Center.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when it’s discovered that Avram Shalom Bendor is using a fake name, and that he’s been convicted of murder, as the head of Shin Bet in Israel, the contract is torn up. So you see, it went from being a fantasy, or a prediction of Isser Harel, to two of his main men coming to the United States and getting the contract for the World Trade Center. So, &#8230;</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[39:04]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So, 9/11 would have happened back in the late 80s, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, yes!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> If he wouldn’t have got the contract cancelled?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes! If they had, … if that contract had gone through, then they would have been prepared for the operation in the late 80s.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So that’s four things. Three, or four things. She said there’s no evidence, but those are all undisputed, very hard, compelling evidence.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Ahh-hmm.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-19"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Michael Chertoff and other Top Connections</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> What would you say is some more top connections?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, then you have the role of Michael Chertoff. In 1993 there was the first bombing of the World Trade Center, where a car bomb went off, in which the FBI was very much involved in the operation. That was like a sting operation. The FBI paid this Egyptian Colonel, Salem, a million dollars to testify against the, you know, motley crew he had collected around him, including the “<em>blind Sheikh</em>”. These people went to jail for like, five thousand years!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[40:04]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Michael Chertoff was a key person in the prosecution, from New Jersey. And, because the case had it’s roots, &#8230; The conspiracy apparently had it’s roots in New Jersey, according to the operation. Michael Chertoff, then, fast forward few years, is then the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, responsible for, … he was given the portfolio for investigating 9/11, the 9/11 crime. But rather than investigate it, he allowed the evidence to be destroyed!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now Michael Chertoff, you have to understand, is a son of the Mossad. He’s an Israeli-American. His mother was an Israeli citizen, which makes him an Israeli citizen. His mother was one of the first Mossad agents in Israel.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> You write about that in your book. She worked for the airlines that brought all the people from, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! From Yemen. “<em>Operation Magic Carpet</em>”, I think it was called. So, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And isn’t his dad a Talmudic scholar?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[41:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Was. Yes, yes, that’s right. Rabbi Chertoff. And so, Michael Chertoff plays a key role in the prosecution that didn’t happen! The investigation that was a non-investigation! That’s really important to understand, because if 9/11 had been investigated by any competent law enforcement in this country, the game would have been up!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So they had to make sure that there was no proper investigation! So what did they do? Instead of calling it a “<em>crime</em>”, they called it an “<em>act of war</em>”, already on September 11th! By calling it an act of war, it meant that the military would be the instrument used to deliver justice. So that there would be no investigation. So then, Michael Chertoff basically facilitated the cover-up by confiscating evidence in the form of video tapes, and steel, and engine parts, whatever.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Detainees. Israeli spies, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[42:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> All that! And then facilitating the cover-up. So, and he’s a key person. The operation could not have gone ahead had they not made sure that they had absolute 100% security in the form of control of US law enforcement.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And Michael Chertoff’s cousin was at “<em>Popular Mechanics</em>” working on “<em>debunking</em>” 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And you were the one that called his mom and found that they were related, and she said, “<em>Yes</em>”. And it’s so funny, because you go to the debunking articles and they say:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“Well, Michael Chertoff wasn’t even at the Homeland Security until several years after that!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So yeah, he wasn’t the head of Homeland Security, but what position was he on 9/11? Number two at the FBI?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Michael Chertoff?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> He was Assistant Attorney General, and he was in charge of the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice. And he was the one that was given — John Ashcroft, who was Attorney General, gave the portfolio to Chertoff. Chertoff had the final say in all decisions regarding 9/11 investigation.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then later, he became head of Homeland Security. The second one I think, and in that position he maintained his control over the evidence of 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[43:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-20"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Cover-up and Destruction of Evidence</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s very important, because the 9/11 crime, you have to look at the cover-up and the destruction of evidence. And there again you find that the network that destroyed the evidence, and the junkyards that were responsible for the destruction of evidence are, were, under control of Israeli zionists.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay, so Michael Chertoff, all his connections, the junkyards, also Ptech, who’s Ptech?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Ptech was the little enterprise software company in Quincy, Massachusetts, who had their software running on all of the Federal computers on 9/11, military computers. And they had spent two years in the basement of the FAA with Mitre corporation. Checking to see the interoperability between the FAA and military, in the event of a catastrophe, just like this one. And the computer network and the computer system failed on 9/11, obviously.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And the security company at the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center and at the airports.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. There’s two different security companies. At the airports it was Huntley USA, which is an Israeli owned company, owned by ICTS in Holland. And that’s a Mossad LL security company from the beginning. And they controlled airport security, and passenger screening operations, at the airports involved in 9/11.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5777-Green-interviewing-Bollyn.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21024" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5777-Green-interviewing-Bollyn.jpg" alt="" width="998" height="637" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5777-Green-interviewing-Bollyn.jpg 998w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5777-Green-interviewing-Bollyn-300x191.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5777-Green-interviewing-Bollyn-768x490.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 998px) 100vw, 998px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then at the World Trade Center, the company that was responsible for security procedures was a company called “<em>Kroll Associates</em>”. Which is, again, owned by Jules Kroll, and involved Maurice Greenberg. These are again, high-level zionists. And the Israeli guys that tried to get the security contract for the World Trade Center, Avram Shalom Bendor, had gone to work for Kroll associates after 1993.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[45:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So they still got it, even though they had it cancelled in ‘87?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, they got it through using an American trojan horse.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> And they finally got it and then pulled it off, shortly after.</p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-21"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Philip Zelikow and the “9/11 Commission Report”</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> It looks that way. Philip Zelikow is a very zionist guy, he had a lot of power in creating George Bush in the beginning, creating George Bush’s Presidency. But when they wanted to do 9/11, … you know, a year later, more than a year later, when they wanted to set up as 9/11 Commission to basically write the myth, they first went to Kissinger. But Kissinger didn’t want to reveal his client list, so then the second choice was Philip Zelikow.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so Philip Zelikow became the executive director of the 9/11 Commission Report. And he came to the table, with a fully detailed outline of what the Commission report would say in the end, before the Commission even began meeting!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And Mr Philip Zelikow, he’s a jewish fellow from Texas, or from Southern California — both places he’s lived and studied. When he got his degree, I think his PhD. His PhD was on the “<em>creation and maintenance of the public myth</em>”. And that’s what he created with the 9/11 Commission Report.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s like, when I wrapped up, when I concluded my “<em>Solving 9/11</em>” book, finally in 2011, I wanted to investigate the, how the deception was contained by the destruction of evidence, and the cover-up. And that’s really important. Like Nixon said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“It’s not the crime you catch, it’s the cover-up!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Because in the cover-up you see all of the key players. They have to reveal themselves. It’s the same thing with the media in this country. You know, the media has been complicit in the 9/11 cover-up! They can never come back, they can never redeem themselves to the American people! They have been part of the betrayal!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>Green:</strong> That’s how I know 9/11 is a conspiracy, because you do the research, like we’re talking about zionists fingerprints all over it! Everywhere you look, from top to bottom, going back thirty years. And then you hear the media at CNN say:</span></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #000000;">“There’s absolutely no evidence!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">They’re obviously lying and not even being objective, even 1% objective!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[47:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> So you’re right. The cover-up is the biggest evidence of 9/11. Even more in your face than the buildings blowing up and coming down free fall, I believe.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yes. Because you see, it’ll take some real investigation to find out who put the nano-thermite in the World Trade Center, where the nano-thermite was made, etc. You know, finding the fingerprints of the actual criminals involved in the crime, that’s harder to do! But the people who are involved in the cover-up, in the deception, and taking the country to war, based on the lie, that’s all very clear!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-22"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The Need for a Real Investigation of 9/11 and Cover-up</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So what we really need is a huge investigation in this country, in which all of the people who are involved in the 9/11 crime and cover-up, are arrested, and charged, and investigated thoroughly!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[48:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Like Chertoff! To find out who was calling the shots, and connecting the network. And that requires something no less than a political revolution in this country. Because it would stand the entire power structure on it’s head!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s why I’m saying that, you know, we don’t have a lot of hope that within, … it’s like, we live in an occupied government right now, we live in a government that’s occupied! Our nation’s occupied! And trying to work within this occupied government for 9/11 truth, when the whole deck is stacked against you, is very difficult!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s why it’s going to take a real revolution of awareness, a popular revolution!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> When you Google 9/11 conspiracies, one of the first things that’s gonna come up is “<em>Snopes</em>”. And it’s gonna be an article saying that:</p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-23"><span style="color: #ff0000;">The 4,000 Israelis Who Didn’t Show Up on 9/11?</span></h3>
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<blockquote>
<h3>“It’s debunked. That conspiracy theorists believe that 4,000 Israelis didn’t show up to work that day.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I’m sure you’ve heard about this. Where did that originate? Do you know?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, the story about the 4,000 Israelis who were thought to be at the World Trade Center, or at the Pentagon on 9/11, came from the Israeli Foreign Ministry itself. And it was reported by “<strong><em>Jerusalem Post</em></strong>” online. And the editor of the newspaper said later, that this has been, they were completely accurate in the reporting.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So 4,000 families in Israel contacted the foreign ministry asking about their loved ones, and that’s the source of that. It’s nothing Arabic about it! It comes straight from the Israeli government itself. And combine that with the Odigo instant messaging service, that had a warning that went out several hours before 9/11, that warned of an attack at the World Trade Center, and was precise to the minute! Those two facts together indicate that, that warning went out, was received, and many people escaped injury that day.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So there is some truth to the 4,000 claim, or was that purposely put out to be disinfo, a red herring?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No! That’s completely true about the 4,000. I mean, as reported in the “<em>Jerusalem Post</em>”. It came from the, … the source is the Israeli Foreign Ministry itself.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Okay. And it came from family members in Israel calling, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> And finding out that:</p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3>“Oh! They didn’t go that day!”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like they’re all like Silverstein?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[50:03]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, they were wondering, they were calling the Foreign Ministry to find out what was the status, if they had information about that person, one of those 4,000 people. And the instant messaging seems to have worked, in that many Israelis seem to have gotten a message to stay away from the World Trade Center that day.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Only two people came forward as reported and, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Two people in Israel got the message. The vice-president of the company said the warning was precise, to the minute. This was only reported in a few, <strong><em>Haaretz</em></strong> newspaper, and maybe in the <strong><em>New York Times</em></strong> once, or <strong><em>The Washington Pos</em></strong>t once, and never reported again. The whole story about the prior warning from Odigo, and the indication, the evidence, that Israelis were warned ahead of time, was never discussed again.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> But there’s no evidence!</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[51:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No evidence, yeah!</span> <span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[being sarcastic]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-24"><span style="color: #ff0000;">CNN with Michael Gross Saying Jews are being Scapegoated</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> How upsetting is this to you?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5781-Michael-Gross-interview.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21025" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5781-Michael-Gross-interview.jpg" alt="" width="617" height="854" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5781-Michael-Gross-interview.jpg 617w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5781-Michael-Gross-interview-217x300.jpg 217w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 617px) 100vw, 617px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Michael Gross:</strong> Look, we’ve been kicked around for 2,000 years! The face you’re looking at, it’s got a lot of anger in it, because of that! That’s not a way to live, wandering around the globe, never having a home! It’s pretty difficult, because every time there’s trouble, we’re scapegoated! We’re not the only ones that are scapegoated, but we’re scapegoated!</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">By people who are frightened! They don’t care! They are paranoid! You cannot debunk this theory! It is madness, as well as idiocy, to think that the jews brought down the World Trade Center on 9/11! But you cannot argue logic to someone who is mentally ill! What frightens me is that the whole nation is frightened, and that fear is being fueled by this administration, and by the media, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Who is this guy?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Michael Gross, a constitutional lawyer, it says.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> I’ve never seen him any other time, besides this.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No, I haven’t either.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[52:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> But it’s weird that he comes on and just, … first of all they’re on a panel with CNN. Everybody is against the conspiracy. Why don’t they have you in the studio to actually have a rebuttal to his arguments?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right. Well if you look at this CNN piece, you see how they try to set me up. They asked me if I was anti-semitic. I said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“No. This is what they say when you criticize Israeli policy.”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Then they cut and go to that woman from the ADL, who says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“That’s what they all say!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Paula Zahn:</strong> When you imply that somehow Israelis were involved in the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, people are gonna look at you, critics will say:</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">“<em>You are an anti-semite!</em>”</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">Are you?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5787-Bollyn-Zahn-CNN-interview.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21026" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5787-Bollyn-Zahn-CNN-interview.jpg" alt="" width="633" height="941" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5787-Bollyn-Zahn-CNN-interview.jpg 633w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5787-Bollyn-Zahn-CNN-interview-202x300.jpg 202w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 633px) 100vw, 633px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No, I’m not an anti-semite! This is the main charge that’s leveled against me, and has been for years, even before 9/11, because I am a critic of zionist policies.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;"><strong>Deborah Lauter:</strong> That’s a very common technique among anti-semites, they will twist things.</span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span style="color: #993300;">“<em>I’m not an anti-semite, I just believe XYZ!</em>”</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[53:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> So it’s with video editing, that’s been done by CNN, this is a hit piece! And this piece aired on TV the night before I was supposed to go on trial.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-25"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Criticism of Israel and Jews involved in 9/11 is “Anti-semitic”!</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Elaborating on the whole “<em>anti-semitic</em>” thing. It’s like literally any criticism of Israel to them, or criticism of people behind 9/11, is anti-semitic. So according to them, they can’t do anything wrong, and there’s nothing, no legitimate criticisms. That’s literally what they, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> That’s not quite what they’re saying. What they’re saying though, is that you cannot criticize Israel, you cannot criticize Israeli crimes. You cannot criticize jewish crimes, or you cannot identify them as being Israeli, or jewish crimes. They’re protected! That’s what they’re saying.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They’re not saying that jews, or Israel doesn’t commit crimes. In my “<em>Solving 9/11</em>” book I have a quote from the former chief of staff of the Israeli military, who says:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“That if the truth ever comes out, …” <em>he says</em> “… you will see that Israel has been involved in crimes a thousand times worse than anything going on in Colombia!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[54:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He’s talking about the Colombia drug trade. So it’s not like Israel doesn’t commit crimes. It’s that they want to make it so that it’s a crime to report them! It’s a crime to identify them as Israeli crimes. You know, I don’t write anything about jewish crimes, I’m writing about a crime that was committed by very evil people, who may happen to be Israeli nationals, like Netanyahu, or Michael Chertoff, but that’s as far as it goes.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-26"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Solving a Crime Means Going where the Evidence Leads</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, when you investigate a crime, … the reason why I call my book “<em>Solving 9/11</em>”, is, because 9/11, I could see from the very beginning, was not going to be solved! There was no interest in solving 9/11 at all! They gave us a prepared false narrative to go to war, and that’s what we’re supposed to live with.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So when I approach this as an investigative journalist, I looked at it as we’re trying to solve this thing. We’re trying to solve it as a crime. And you look, when you’re solving the crime, you go where the evidence takes you.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[55:02]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-27"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Did You Ever Think You Might Be Wrong?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Did you think that you might be wrong?</p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5788-Christopher-Bollyn-copy.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21036" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5788-Christopher-Bollyn-copy.jpg" alt="" width="854" height="631" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5788-Christopher-Bollyn-copy.jpg 854w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5788-Christopher-Bollyn-copy-300x222.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 854px) 100vw, 854px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> In the beginning, when I first started, I approached it very cautiously. So for the first couple years I was very, very, cautious about what I said, and how I said it.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But as I, as my investigation went on, you know, year after year, and I found that at every single point in the matrix, in every single point where a decision had to be made to protect the 9/11 story, to advance the war agenda, and to cover up the truth, I found either an Israeli national, you know, tied to the Israeli government, or an American who was working as a zionist agent.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">People like Larry Silverstein, for example, who was the former national chairman of the “<em>United jewish Appeal</em>”. Michael Chertoff.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Ehud Barak.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. Or, you know,</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Weekly phone calls.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Weekly phone calls, yes. Silverstein had weekly phone calls with Netanyahu. So, then the consistency was a hundred percent! So the question was:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“Okay, so are these Israelis all involved in the crime, covering up the crime, promoting the deception to protect some third party, like the Saudis, or the &#8216;German Death Cult&#8217;, or Jesuits?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-28"><span style="color: #ff0000;">9/11 And the &#8220;War on terror&#8221; an Israeli, Zionist Operation</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Unlikely! So that consistency is compelling. That the nature of the crime we’re dealing with here in 9/11, and the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, is that it’s an Israeli slash zionist operation!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Now “<em>zionist</em>”, of course, means much more than the State of Israel. When you talk about the “<em>zionist establishment</em>” you’re talking about the Rothschilds as well, you’re talking about the zionist international, that is located around the world.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> You mentioned the Jesuits. I hear a lot that the Jesuits control the zionists, or the zionists created the Jesuits to take out the Catholic Church. Where do the Jesuits fit into the whole zionist 9/11 scenario, if at all?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[57:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-29"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What About Jesuits, Rothschilds, Rockerfellers?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> I don’t know. I don’t see any hallmarks of a Jesuit operation here. It’s an Israeli thing. But there are other players, you know, like Mr Mueller from the FBI. He came on the scene seven days before, but he was the junior man on the totem pole. Above him, he had Michael Chertoff telling him what to do. Or Rudy Giuliani, or, you know, Governor Pataki.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But in every case you find that these people were not the masterminds, but there was a another person who had very clear ties to Israel who was the person making the decisions.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> How about the Rothschilds, and the Rockefellers? I’ve got a friend who’s a big-time 9/11 guy. He thinks that Rockefellers planned 9/11 when they built the towers in the 50s, I believe, it was. What part do you believe the Rockefellers played?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[58:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I don’t think that they planned to destroy the towers as they did, because the towers were destroyed using a form of nano-thermite that was only invented in the 1990s. Whether they had this idea down the road that they would destroy these towers, I don’t know.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-30"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Predictive Programming, Arnon Milchan, and Rupert Murdoch</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> What do you think about all the predictive programming? Are they coincidences, or is it the Israeli controlled media putting it out there in the public consciousness? Like, they did with the “<em>Medusa Touch</em>”. If the “<em>Medusa Touch</em>” is predictive programming, then you have to think “<em>Lone Gunmen</em>” and all these other things that we’ve seen.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, I don’t know why they do that. But like you said, the “<strong><em>Lone Gunmen</em></strong>” episode that was done by, again, Arnon Milchan’s business partner, Rupert Murdoch, made that film. It aired on Fox TV six months before 9/11. It depicted a passenger aircraft being remotely hijacked and flown into the World Trade Center. You know, this is pretty uncanny prediction.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[59:00]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So it’s like, why they did that? Why do they do things like that? I don’t know. Some people say that it’s, because they want to lower their “<em>karmic debt</em>”. I don’t know how that lowers your karmic debt, but, …</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Like black magic, or something?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> A law that they have to, …. You write in your book, you speculate that the filming of “<em>The Lone Gunman</em>” may have been part of the final planning for 9/11.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah, well, I mean, in the sense that they used helicopters and they flew at night across Manhattan, across in the flight path. When they filmed the plane coming into the World Trade Center, that footage they needed, they did it at night, they flew a helicopter. And that, you know, they’re flying the path that the planes took that hit the World Trade Center so, you know, why was that done? I don’t know. But what they’re doing is that they were visualizing, they were manifesting, filming an attack very similar to what happened six months later, or a year later.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[60:01]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, you can see that there’s certainly the potential for getting some information that they would need for the actual attack.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-31"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Alternative Media, Controlled Opposition, and Alex Jones</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> So we know that mainstream media is zionist controlled, or zionist sympathizers, and they’re not going to cover 9/11. How about the alternative media and controlled opposition in the alternative media? In particular Alex Jones — tell me about Alex Jones.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I don’t know Alex Jones that well. I don’t watch him, but I’ve been on his show years ago, and I’ve been in touch with him by phone. I think the last time was about 2006, or 2005. And he, I guess, he doesn’t go to 9/11 truth regarding the Israelis. But I’ve seen some things, you know, some of the videos you’ve brought out, where he talks about being visited by the Mossad. And he says something like:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">“<em>Israel wasn’t the only country behind 9/11.</em>”</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Well, that’s interesting that he says that. But, …</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[61:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> He’s spreading the blame and pointing fingers elsewhere. All he talks about is 28 pages, Saudia Arabia, …</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> But he admits in that video where he talked about the Mossad visiting, that Israel had a role. He does say that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But the alternative media can be just as controlled as the mainstream media, because media requires money. Alex Jones has quite an operation. I don’t know how his operation is funded, but I can tell you that 9/11 truth, like I do, it’s not a lucrative thing at all! You pay a big price for it. And when the mainstream media requires funding to produce their product, the people who fund the operation will call the tune.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> A few years ago you were on your book tour and you stopped in Austin Texas and you reached out to, I think you said four people that worked for Infowars, so for sure they got the message, you were there.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[62:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You’re the leading 9/11 researcher, you’ve broken the whole story, travel around the world. You’re essentially like the leader of the 9/11 truth movement! I don’t want to put that on you, but you essentially are. You’ve got the best books, you pointed out who did it, you’re traveling the country. And Alex Jones made his name on 9/11, but he won’t even have you on as a guest anymore!</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Even when people call in and say you got to read this book, you got to, &#8230; How serious can he be about 9/11, if he ignores you?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, yeah that’s very good point. You know, it seems that he’s been created to be this voice of the opposition, but only goes so far. That he doesn’t want to, you know, he doesn’t want to give me any air time to discuss 9/11 truth as it is.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Have you thought about calling in the show?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I’ve been to Austin twice. No, I never thought about calling in. I’ve been to Austin twice. He’s been invited both times, and he has never responded.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> He’s completely abandoned 9/11 truth. He doesn’t talk about it anymore at all!</p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-32"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What About the Bible, and the “Synagogue of Satan”?</span></h3>
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<p>What do you think about, like the Bible, and talking about the “<em>Synagogue of Satan</em>”?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[63:04]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Oh well, that’s from book of Revelation. Yeah they talk about these imposters in the jewish faith who, you know, are not jews, but are the “<em>Synagogue of Satan</em>”. And, you know, Christ said the same thing when he talked about the Pharisees, and the Scribes, and said they were the “<em>spawn of Satan</em>”. You know, it’s very, very harsh words, but there’s a lot of truth in that. Because when you understand that the Talmud, the Rabbinical interpretation of the Torah, stands the Torah on it’s head, and negates the teachings of the Moses, Mosaic law, you know, that you’re dealing with the corruption of the religion! The corruption of the scripture!</span></p>
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<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21056" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible.jpg" alt="" width="453" height="640" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible.jpg 453w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Circus-Maximus-Interview-Rainer-2042-The-Scofield-Reference-Bible-212x300.jpg 212w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 453px) 100vw, 453px" /></a></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">As we see with the<strong> Scofield Bible</strong> for Christians. It’s like, when people change the scripture to suit their agenda, that’s pretty, it can be very evil.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when they say that in the end times — I hope we’re not in the end times! But there are times of great deception and there will be false prophets, etc. We see this around us all the time, this is reality today. We live in a very, a very strange and uncomfortable reality where this is primarily, this is a religious, this is a spiritual war! But any war between truth and falsehood, and light and dark, is a spiritual battle. And when your country and your fellow citizens are so deceived, when your nation is deceived, that is a very evil thing!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[65:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And when you consider the evilness of 9/11, then the evilness of the deception, is just as bad as the crime of mass murder. So it’s a spiritual battle.</span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-33"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Your Letter to the Pope, Did He Respond?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Speaking of spiritual battle, you wrote a letter to the Pope about 9/11 truth, and did they respond to that at all?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5790-Bollyns-letter-to-the-Pope-Mar-25-2014.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21028" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5790-Bollyns-letter-to-the-Pope-Mar-25-2014.jpg" alt="" width="665" height="945" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5790-Bollyns-letter-to-the-Pope-Mar-25-2014.jpg 665w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5790-Bollyns-letter-to-the-Pope-Mar-25-2014-211x300.jpg 211w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 665px) 100vw, 665px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> No! No, I wrote an open letter to the Pope and I sent him a hard copy of the letter. And I thought that the head of the Catholic Church should speak out about the deception that we’ve been under about 9/11! Because this deception has been used to take the nation, and the world, to war against another religion, against another faith, against Islam!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so this is a very, very big thing! And it requires leadership from our religious leaders to quell the fire! To explain to people, to the faithful, that we’ve been deceived, and that these wars are not justified! That’s not a hard thing to do, but apparently there’s no interest in the religious community, in the academic community, or in our political establishment, to do any of that.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That gives you an idea of how deeply entrenched this deception is!</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[66:02]</strong></span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-34"><span style="color: #ff0000;">What is Hindering People from Speaking Out?</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> It’s so easy for you and me, and so many people we know, to see the deception and want to be passionate and speak out about it. What do you think is hindering so many other people, blocking them from doing it?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, it’s a hard thing to do! I mean, just intellectually grappling with 9/11 truth and embracing it, means that you have to come to the conclusion that your government has been lying to you for 16 years! In the greatest democracy in the world? And that our media is hardly free, but our media is complicit in the 9/11 cover-up! These are very hard pills to swallow for an American. We grew up thinking that we live in a free country, and that we have a free media, and that the truth prevails!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[67:01]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And to see that none of that is true, and that we’re living in a very strange place where the government, the media, the institutions, that we believe in, can no longer be trusted. That shows that we’re on the verge of something new! We’re on the cusp of a new beginning! But it also means that it’s very hard for the average person to cope with, to accept!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> I hear the debunkers all the time say that:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>“It’s more comforting for 9/11 conspiracy theorists to think that there’s a conspiracy behind everything, and that world view is more comforting to us.”</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What do you say to that? Are you more comforted to know that 9/11 was it was an inside job, or would you wish, would it be better if you believed the official story?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, the official story is a conspiracy theory as well! So let’s put that to rest. It’s like what the government has said has never been proven, regarding Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I’m a investigator, an investigative journalist who has found, you know, leads and conclusions as to who’s behind the 9/11 crime.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[68:03]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">It’s not a theory! It’s an investigation!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And it’s my attempt to solve the crime that changed our country.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But there’s nothing comfortable about, &#8230; There can be no comfort at all in believing a false narrative which we’ve been given. I think that it’s much more comforting to know the truth! To understand who is really behind 9/11! To understand who’s behind the “<em>War on Terror</em>”, because then you’ll realize that things aren’t nearly as bad as they make them out to be.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, we are not on the verge of a religious war with Islam. Islam is not trying to break down the doors and to destroy us as a civilization, or a nation. This has all been, this is all fear that’s been imposed on us.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[69:02]</strong></span>.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And so, to be in deception, to be in fear, to be deceived, is a much worse place to be, than to have some truth. The truth is, like it says in the Bible:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“The truth will set you free!”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">But to be deceived and to accept the deception, knowing that it’s a deception, is a very unenviable place to be.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> I got three more questions. Two of them are, … I’m just gonna kind of lead you into two of the things. These are two of the things from your book that were new to me, that I thought were very powerful pieces of information.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-35"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Shimon Perez Wanting to Frighten the West into Supporting Israel&#8217;s Aims</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Number one is Shimon Perez and Moshe Shalit. There’s a quote in there about that Perez wants to frighten the West into supporting Israel’s aims! That is so incriminating! And to follow your whole thesis of what happened in the 70s, and right in the 80s, …</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Can you, …?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah that was a quote by the Prime Minister of Israel at the time, Moshe Sharett. And Shimon Peres had had been one of the masterminds of a terrorist operation in Egypt against American and British targets, libraries, cultural institutions, in which they had put nitroglycerin bombs into these places. You know, in order to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, and to drive a wedge between the United States, and Britain, and the Egyptian government at the time.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Shimon Peres was one of the masterminds, along with Pinhas Lavon and Moshe Dayan. And when the Prime Minister discovered this, he wrote in his journal what he said about about Shimon Peres wanting to frighten the West, just like Pinhas Lavon.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So this is in the early 1950s. So Israel was carrying out false flag terror operations in Egypt, in the early 1950s, in order to drive a wedge between the United States and the leading Arab country, Egypt. They haven’t changed that, you know, and Shimon Peres was the President and a high-ranking Israeli politician when 9/11 happened.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[71:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think when 9/11 happened he was actually Foreign Minister. But in any case, that is his <em>modus operandi</em>, that’s how he has always functioned. That’s been the Israeli method ever since the creation of the State of Israel, to scare the West into supporting Israel’s aims. And that’s where we are today!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">That’s where all this terrorism, fear of terrorism, fear of Islam, comes at us from the media, and the zionists. Because they want us to be afraid, and paralyzed, so that we will be willing to wage war against the Islamic world, and the Arab states, that they target.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21057" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg" alt="" width="614" height="902" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents.jpg 614w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-The-War-on-Terror-Book-Contents-204x300.jpg 204w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 614px) 100vw, 614px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>Green:</strong> Yeah. Watch any clip of Netanyahu at the United Nations, or addressing Congress, and that’s all he talks about, is the fear of Iran, and the fear of al-Qaeda, the fear of Iraq, and how we need to act, because they’re all building bombs to kill us!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[72:02]</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Right! Because the whole “<em>War on Terror</em>” construct only works if the public is afraid. And it’s like, that’s the point of my work, is to undeceive people, and to show them that this terrible monster that’s in the darkness, isn’t really there at all! It’s all an artificial construct! And when people realize that it’s like a <strong><em>Wizard of Oz</em></strong> play, it’s like somebody, you know, trying to scare you by waving something scary in front of your face. It’s not real! The reality is much less scary than the deception!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And that’s why my book “<em>Solving 9/11</em>”, I have the light coming over, because in the darkness, when people are in the darkness, you know, their fears manifest and scare them out of their wits! But when you’re dealing with reality, you know, it’s something that’s much easier for a person to cope with.</span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-36"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Who Were the Top Three People Involved in Planning 9/11?</span></h3>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> Can you name me like the top three people you think we’re involved with planning 9/11?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[73:02]</strong></span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well, the people at the top who planned 9/11, these would be people in Israeli military intelligence, whose names would not mean much to anybody. But at a political level, I would say that it would be Shimon Peres. I would think Benjamin Netanyahu, because he’s been the promoter of the “<em>War on Terror</em>” agenda since 1979. I would think Shaul Eisenberg, Mr. Big in China for the Israeli Mossad. I think Ehud Barak, not a Likudnik, but I think Ehud Barak played a key role. And I would say also Areil Sharon.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5794-Both-911-and-War-on-Terror-planned-by-Israeli-Military-Intelligence-in-the-70s.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21031" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5794-Both-911-and-War-on-Terror-planned-by-Israeli-Military-Intelligence-in-the-70s.jpg" alt="" width="974" height="732" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5794-Both-911-and-War-on-Terror-planned-by-Israeli-Military-Intelligence-in-the-70s.jpg 974w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5794-Both-911-and-War-on-Terror-planned-by-Israeli-Military-Intelligence-in-the-70s-300x225.jpg 300w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Christopher-Bollyn-Solved-9-11-5794-Both-911-and-War-on-Terror-planned-by-Israeli-Military-Intelligence-in-the-70s-768x577.jpg 768w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 974px) 100vw, 974px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And then going back one generation, men who were still alive when 9/11 happened, or just recently deceased. Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir. These would be the political players that, you know, except for Shaul Eisenberg, he’s not very well known, but the rest of them are people who Americans understand who these people were.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, these people were terrorists, absolute terrorists! They always use terrorism!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir, they murdered the UN envoy to Palestine, Folke Bernadotte in 1948! They bombed the King David hotel in 1946! They massacred Palestinians in Deir Yassin and other villages. I mean, these are bonafide real terrorist leaders! In fact, Menachem Begin took the mantle of being the father of terrorism in the whole world!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-20707" src="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg" alt="" width="673" height="940" srcset="https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman.jpg 673w, https://katana17.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Christopher-Bollyn-Book-Rise-and-Kill-First-Bergman-215x300.jpg 215w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 673px) 100vw, 673px" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, when terrorism then happens, when their agenda goes through and their people commit terrorism, what’s the problem? Yeah! Why is it anti-semitic?</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">You know, I lived in Israel when Menachem Begin came to power. And it was a very sad day for people from the Labour Party, because they realized that the terrorists had taken power!</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>[75:00]</strong></span></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3 id="bollynkmn-37"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Menachem Begin, the Father of Terrorism</span></h3>
<p><a href="#top">top</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Green:</strong> There’s a quote in your book about, I think, it’s Ben Gurion, they say he’s the “<em>king of terrorism</em>”! And he goes “<em>the king of terrorism in the world!</em>” He corrected him, like they brag about their terrorism! It’s no secret, right?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Of the history of terrorism, of the Mossad and the Irgun.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. That was Menachem Begin who said that, when he was asked. And he said:</span></p>
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<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“What is it like to be the father of terrorism in Middle East?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And he said:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<blockquote>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“In the Middle East?”</span></h3>
</blockquote>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">He said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0000ff;">“In all the world!”</span></h3>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, that’s the reason why zionist history is not taught in American schools! Because if American universities taught the history of zionism, you would know! You would understand the evilness, and the terrorist nature, of the zionist project! Because it, the State of Israel, was born in terrorism, and has survived with terrorism ever since!</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> You touch in your book, the last chapter, a Muslim guy was writing it, right? Who wrote the last chapter?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> It was the Nation of Islam research group.</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-38"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Your Place in History When the Truth of 9/11 is Known?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Research group. They talked about the significance of your work in history. And I’d like to ask you how often do you think about your place in history, and what will people write about you hundreds of years from now, if the truth is known about 9/11?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well I don’t know. I don’t think about that, that often. It’s been 16 years I’ve been working on this, and it’s been a very, a very big effort, you know, it took a lot of time, and a lot of energy. And it’s cost, it’s had a lot of costs for me and my family.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, I just hope that people will waken up and realize what’s happened to this country. And if my work contributes to that, to that awakening, if my work contributes to shortening the “<em>War on Terror</em>” by one day, if my work contributes to the prosecution and indictment of the people who carried out 9/11, that will be the best reward!</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-39"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Do You Ever Fear for Your Life for Exposing the People Behind 9/11?</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> A Pulitzer for a hundred years! So, there’s very bad guys who you’re exposing here. You’ve literally solved, you’ve uncovered the motive, the people behind it. Do you fear for your life when you go out in public and people are protesting? There very well could be somebody violent that wants to shut you up for exposing these crimes.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah. Well I’m cautious and everything like that. I try to be as careful as possible. But to think that this, that the criminal network behind 9/11 is all powerful and able to reach anywhere, … yeah, they are criminal network, but they’re men like you and I, and their life goes on. Many of them have died. Many of them have moved on to other things. They have accomplished, they have gotten what they wanted!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">They got the “<em>War on Terror</em>”! They got it all! The “<em>War on Terror</em>” in spades! They’ve got terrorism going on in Europe, and America! They’ve got the wars going on in half a dozen countries! They’ve destroyed Syria! They’ve destroyed Iraq! They’ve destroyed Afghanistan! They’ve destroyed Libya! They got what they wanted!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">So, for me to be explaining, my side of this and explaining what the war on terrorism is all about, I guess they have nothing, no problem, with that. It’s like they’ve achieved their goal. They’ve achieved billions and billions of dollars. They’ve disrupted the Middle East! They’re redrawing the map of the Middle East! You know, nothing has stopped them!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And they’re destroying this country! That’s really important!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">And anybody who has any patriotic feeling for the United States of America, should engage in 9/11 truth and demand an end of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”! And demand accountability from the people in the media and the government who have covered up this crime for 16 years. It’s just outrageous!</span></p>
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<h3 id="bollynkmn-40"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Everyone Needs to Read Bollyn&#8217;s Books!</span></h3>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> It is outrageous! I agree. Every 9/11 truther needs to read these books. If you haven’t you’re completely uninformed! These are the best books about 9/11. I’ve read both of them several times. “<strong><em>Solving 9/11 the Deception that Changed the World</em></strong>” and the “<strong><em>War on Terror — the Plot to Rule the Middle East</em></strong>”. The “<em>War on Terror</em>” and “<em>9/11</em>” go hand in hand. They’re essentially the same crime.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Yeah.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Chris has sacrificed a lot for this information. He’s a man of courage and integrity! I appreciate you so much for sitting down and taking the time with me.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Thank you very much.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Thank you. And everybody needs to read these books and share the information with everybody you know. Any last words Chris?</p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Bollyn:</strong> Well thank you very much, and I couldn’t agree more on the need to understand that we’ve been deceived about 9/11. And we’ve been deceived for a reason. And the reason is to take us into this long open-ended criminal war in the Middle East, and elsewhere. And in order to end the deception, we need to increase awareness. And the more people who become aware of 9/11, and the lies of 9/11, will understand the lies of the “<em>War on Terror</em>”. That we’ve been deceived into war.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The war agenda will destroy this nation! It will impoverish this nation! It will destroy this nation! And it’s incumbent, it’s imperative that any patriotic American do their utmost to expose the deception and end the war!</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #0000ff;">Thank you very much.</span></p>
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<p><strong>Green:</strong> Thank you.</p>
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