Greg Johnson: I’m Greg Johnson. Welcome to Counter-Currents Radio. Today’s guest is Joel Davis. Joel, welcome.

 

Joel Davis: Hey, how you going? Nice to be here.

 

Greg Johnson: Joel is joining us from the future. It is, I believe, Sunday where you are in Australia, is that right?

 

Joel Davis: Yes, Sunday morning. Yeah.

 

Greg Johnson: Okay.

 

Well, I want to talk to you about your recent debate in the form of two articles. One from Keith Woods responding to you, and then your rejoinder to Keith on the NS question; does nationalism today need National Socialism?

 

And I just want to read a Telegram post that was quoted by Keith. This is you. And this is what he was responding for. You write:

 

“There was a long time when I at least partially concealed my National Socialist sympathies and tried to pursue ideological projects which could circumvent the negative stigma. I realised these paths wouldn’t work because they all required rhetorical and often actual compromises upon racial loyalism. At the core of the pathologisation of White nationalism is its association with the spectre of National Socialism as unique and ultimate evil. It’s simply not possible to avoid this association in good faith with without damaging the conviction of your own position. The only solution to this, if you want the White race to survive, is the rehabilitation of National Socialism. There is no other solution. Stop wasting time.”

 

And Keith responded with an article on his Substack where he raises a number of points.

 

And I thought what we could do is we could talk through some of his main points and that’ll give you a chance to expand upon your counter arguments. So let’s just begin.

 

Joel Davis: I also mention for the audience that I also wrote an essay of my own which was in response to Keith. But the essay was largely an essay in its own right, where I thought instead of just writing an essay, just responding to his arguments, I’d rather actually formulate my position on its own basis and then deal with some of his arguments at the end on the basis of what I laid out. So my essay is also out there if anyone is interested in reading that. But yeah, anyway, we can go, …

 

Greg Johnson: Yeah, and I linked both it and Keith’s piece at Counter-Currents in the show announcement, and I’m sure it will be linked presently in the actual comments by our able moderator. So everybody should, of course, familiarize himself out there with both pieces.

 

So the main argument that Keith makes is that, well, there are four arguments that I can discern here. And I wanted to talk to you about this because I’m sympathetic actually, with Keith’s position on this and that I’ve laid out essentially this position myself over the years. There’s an article I wrote on The Relevance of the Old Right, which is a chapter in the White Nationalist Manifesto, for instance, on this topic.

 

So the first point that he makes is:

 

“That if we’re going to have racial nationalism today, ethnic nationalism today, that National Socialism isn’t all that relevant to it because National Socialism really wasn’t a pan-White nationalist position, it was a German nationalist and Chauvinist position. And that the National Socialists sought to aggrandize Germany at the expense of other White societies, principally Poland and Ukraine and Russia. And therefore if we’re really looking for White nationalism and that means self-determination for all White nations, it just doesn’t do to look at German National Socialism. How are you going to really advocate that as a solution for say, the problems of Poland? Are you even going to get a hearing for that?”

 

So I’m sympathetic with that and I’d just like to talk about your response to that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, so I mean, first of all, obviously I’m an Australian and I was speaking from a more Anglo spherical context at the very least. If I was Polish, I don’t think I’d be advocating for adopting something as explicit as what I adopt in my activities here in Australia in regards to National Socialism.

 

But nevertheless the stigma and the kind of the entire ideological paradigm, the way that liberalism has been reshaped in the post World War II international order still affects Poland and Ukraine in ways that are kind of suppressing their ability to express nationalism as well.

 

Because at the end of the day they are within the American led international order. They’re within the Liberal world order, so to speak. They’re within a European order of liberal democracies which fundamentally base their conception upon a rejection of National Socialism and its tenets. And that extends beyond anything specific to National Socialism which you could differentiate from broader ethno-nationalism. It actually, the ethno-nationalist aspect of National Socialism is obviously itself has become stigmatized as a result of this association. So there still needs to be work done in a rehabilitation of National Socialism. Even if you aren’t going to adopt National Socialism as a full on ideological doctrine in Poland or in Ukraine or in Russia. There are actually pretty large National Socialist movements in Ukraine and Russia. They probably have some of the largest National Socialist movements in the kind of contemporary world, which is kind of ironic for Keith’s position or perhaps even your position.

 

But it’s not ironic from my point of view because you can see how if you were to view the Soviet Union as the bad guy of the story, well then that kind of changes and relativises how you would conceive of National Socialism from a Ukrainian perspective, for example.

 

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And of course, as you know, World War II went on, the rhetoric of Hitler and Goebbels and so on became increasingly more pan-European. The SS became increasingly a pan-European force. By the end of the war, the majority of the SS weren’t even German citizens. Many Slavic peoples from many of these nations, nations joined the SS and also many of these Slavic nations actually became allies of the Third Reich. And the rhetoric became increasingly about a battle to save Europe from Bolshevism and the idea that German leadership of Europe would be fundamentally better for Eastern European peoples, not just simply better for Germans. Now that probably isn’t an argument that’s going to appeal to the Polish specifically because of the unique circumstances there.

 

But nevertheless it is an argument that obviously appeals to a lot of people from Eastern Europe because a lot of Eastern European nations literally allied with the Reich, allied with it against the Soviets and sympathize with it up to this day. I’ve met a lot of people from the Baltic States, for example, who are very, they seem to have very strong NS movements in those countries, for example, and different attitudes towards National Socialism in those countries than a lot of other countries because of their visceral hatred of the Soviet Union and the view of the National Socialists as attempting to basically save their countries from the Soviet Union. So you know, and obviously you’ve got phenomena like the Azov Battalion and so on.

 

You know, I think this idea that National Socialism just can’t fly with Slavic peoples and therefore we need to get rid of it so that we don’t offend them to embrace White unity. I just don’t think that actually makes sense historically and it doesn’t explain all these phenomena I just mentioned. And additionally, the National Socialist movement, insofar as it exists today around the world, is fundamentally pan-European is in its orientation it is kind of spread across all White countries and it is clearly focused on race first and foremost more than any like particular kind of nationalism. Although the respective National Socialists of different countries obviously are nationalists with respect to their own ethnic group at the same time there is a recognition that our race has a shared destiny and that it isn’t just the story of any one particular nation, but it’s the story of the race and the civilisation at large, which is pertinent here in political and historical terms.

 

And additionally a point that I made in my essay was that I’m not even going to, I mean, I didn’t necessarily agree with the characterisation that Keith made. I think he cherry picked a little bit because there are counter examples of statements from, for example, Alfred Rosenberg, who was in charge of the Eastern Front, which were sympathetic and made concrete plans towards creating, for example, a post-war Ukrainian nation in the event of German victory and so on.

 

This idea that they were just going to roll in there and genocide the Slavs is a bit of a meme, a bit of a construction of post World War II propaganda. Like General Plan Ost, for example, in my opinion is a fabrication. But I didn’t want to get bogged down in these historical arguments because the most core and fundamental argument, which I think and most relevant argument, because I mean, there was anti-Slavic attitudes in Germany and there was mistreatment in the war. That’s just a fact. So nevertheless, the more pertinent argument is that what concretely was World War II about? What it concretely was about was who was going to lead Europe, who was going to run Europe.

 

And basically what happened was that Europe was divided on the one side to American influence, on the other side to Soviet influence. And it’s clearly been a disaster for our race. Europe under American or Russian or Soviet rule is far worse off than a Europe under German rule, particularly under the rule of a Germany that was embodying the values of National Socialism and therefore of racialism in probably its most extreme possible form. There would simply not have been the tolerance of racial aliens on the European continent under German rule, just simply wouldn’t have been tolerated.

 

In fact, the jews probably would have been expelled from Europe had the Germans won in almost in entirety. So Europe would have become racially purified under German rule. I think that is completely, that’s pretty uncontroversial statement to make.

 

Whereas effectively under American rule or under Soviet rule, I mean, under the Soviet rule, it actually more or less fared better from a kind of just purely racial stance. But you know, as the phrase goes, you know:

 

“Communism rots the body, but liberalism rots the soul.”

 

The development of Western liberalism in the post World War II time period has been the most horrible thing to ever happen to Europe in its entire history! American rule over Europe, which is now almost total, has basically led to a situation in which there’s a kind of like a kind of a mass suicide occurring due to state sponsored, like American State sponsored subversion of institutions, projects of de-Nazification, etc, the necessity for the Americans to in their view to compete with the Kremlin aligned Left in Europe, in Western Europe by basically funding into existence an even more destructive form of Leftism which conservatives call “Cultural Marxism” or whatever. And you can debate whether that’s a legitimate phrase. But we all know what we mean by that. I mean that’s just objectively what happened.

 

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So the Germans were fighting for a Europe that would be under their control. And yes, that would mean for them to assert their control. You know, you can’t make an omelette without cracking some eggs. That’s just the reality of war. Like in order for Germany to become strong enough to rule Europe, it needed to expand from its shrunken borders after the First World War. It needed to basically become strong enough to compete with rising superpowers to the East and West, namely the US and the USSR. That required a degree of expansion. That’s what the geopolitical logic was in when it came to that. And it also required a kind of you could say an imperialism. It required, you know, Germany asserting itself over the continent writ large as opposed to just simply bunkering down in Germany and saying:

 

“Well, you know what’s going on in the rest of Europe isn’t our business, we’re just going to focus on Germany.”

 

Well, the reality is that would be naive because the Soviet Union had expansionist designs, that can’t be denied. And they demonstrated it very clearly. And there was ambitions in the American elite to use their influence to basically reshape the entire global international order. So you know, these were powers that were universalist in nature that had larger ambitions than simply being concerned with themselves.

 

So in order to confront these twin threats, the Germans had to figure out a foreign policy and had to figure out an orientation that would enable them to compete for basically European domination. There was no other state in Europe that was capable of taking on that responsibility other than the Germans.

 

So to me, when I look at this in a kind of realistic way, and then also pair that to the fact that for me, German National Socialism wasn’t just like some aberration of the 1920s, but was instead a concrete manifestation of a far deeper historical process whereby the German nation rejected many core elements of the Enlightenment. And that gripped obviously the Anglo-American and French world. To me, the Germans were simply asserting a different form of consciousness, a European particularism and obviously a racial particularism against the encroachment of universalist political projects that now due to their success, are literally threatening the very survival of our race and have reduced Europe to its weakest position perhaps ever! At least in recent centuries.

 

So I think when you take that into consideration holistically, it becomes a lot easier to sympathize with the Germans. And I’ve got nothing against Polish people or against Slavic people. And I even said in my essay, you know, developments in racial science have shown that so-called Slavic peoples, and that’s a bad determination because Slavic is a language group, that kind of groups together people that it can be quite genetically different.

 

But you know, Eastern Europe, northern Eastern European, like the kind of northeast of Europe, people native to that area are actually incredibly genetically similar to people from northwestern Europe and far more similar than either of them are to people from southern Europe actually. And particularly Polish people and German people, they’re actually very genetically similar.

 

So the racialist science of the 19th century, that wasn’t informed by genetics in the same way that contemporary racialist science I think exaggerated these distinctions.

 

But you know, even in Chamberlain, I remember reading in Chamberlain in Foundations of the 19th Century, which is obviously foundational proto-National Socialist text, very influential, you know, he saw the Slavic people as a branch of the Aryan race. It wasn’t that they rejected that the Slavic people were not White or not Aryan. They were just a different branch in the Nordic branch from his perspective.

 

So it wasn’t as though the prevailing thought in Germany was that the Slavic peoples were basically non-Whites or subhuman or something. Maybe there were some comments you could cherry pick, but you could also find comments to the alternative. But the point is that now we have a far more informed understanding and we can say:

 

“Well, actually we’re not that different from people from native to Poland or Russia, like the actual, you know, Russ, or you know, people from the Baltic states or whatever, particularly these places.”

 

And so we can be informed by science from a racialist perspective, you know, seeking greater Unity amongst our peoples and hopefully overcoming these historical differences through time.

 

Greg Johnson: That’s all well and good. The next question I have, and this is relevant. So I want to say it now while it’s still relevant, is why couldn’t you say from a very similar perspective, like if you took Frank Salter very seriously, his book On Genetic Interests, which is a very good case for nationalism, you can make a very strong argument for universal nationalism from his work and you can make a very strong argument for a certain amount of solidarity amongst White national nations and from that point of view. And I’ve heard this argument offered by a scientist I know who’s very into our stuff. His attitude as well, from the point of view of this kind of Saltarian politics. We just have to look at German National Socialism and other forms of 20th century and 19th century national Chauvinism and just say well that’s the bad old form of nationalism. The good form of nationalism today rejects that kind of Chauvinism and is things in terms of pan-racial interest.

 

I remember when I was getting into all of this got a quarter of a century ago, it’s been a long time. My background is in philosophy. I’m very interested in political philosophy and I was very interested in nationalism. I was interested in the case for nationalism and I was in conversations with a lot of people when I first sort of got into the White nationalist movement circles. I’m the first White nationalist thing I ever attended was a David Irving talk in Atlanta!

 

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And of course it was about World War II. And after I filled the first shelf with David Irving books and then a second shelf with other related books that people kept saying:

 

“Well, you got to read this, you got to read that.”

 

I started thinking, you know:

 

“It doesn’t seem logically necessary from a philosophical point of view that the case for nationalism stands or form falls on debates about mid 20th century history, because history and philosophy are very different things.”

 

Now I don’t want to argue that philosophy is entirely a priori or deductive or anything like that, but philosophy should be able to make cases for things like the best sort of political system for European man or man in general, without having to get off into the weeds about again mid 20th century history and specifically the rehabilitation of National Socialism on charges of being imperialistic and totalitarian. You can throw in the Holocaust and that entire branch of literature that’s connected with that, the revisionist literature on Holocaust. But more broadly, revisionism about the war, about the regime and so forth. I get why people are interested in that, but logically it strikes me that you can argue for ethnic nationalism based simply on a philosophical argument. And you could also argue for ethnic nationalism based on something like Frank Salter’s theory of ethnic genetic interest.

 

So where does the actual mid 20th century history come into this? And why do you maintain that we’ve got to rehabilitate the tarnished, stigmatized reputation of National Socialism?

 

Joel Davis: The argument that I made in my essay, you’ll notice it didn’t really have anything to do with refuting the Holocaust or any of these. And I am a revisionist on a lot of these subjects, but it wasn’t actually based in relitigating the Second World War, and was the Allied atrocity propaganda, legitimate or not? And all of this kind of stuff.

 

My argument was a dialectical argument. The core of my argument, I should say it basically had three main points. Point one is that National Socialism is the purification of the nationalist idea. That the nationalist idea has been kind of mixed up with many other ideological ideas historically. And this is particularly true when it comes to the relationship between nationalism and liberalism. You know, from the late 18th century into the early 20th century. Often they came as a package deal. Now that isn’t always the case. There are other examples. But often they came as a package deal. And so like for example, the refrain that I get as an Australian is:

 

“Why don’t you look back to the Australian nationalist tradition that created the White Australia Policy and set up the Federation of Australia and so on and created a White ethno-state in Australia?”

 

And obviously I do know, you know, studying the history of my own country very closely, and I do take inspiration from my forefathers and I value that tradition. But there is a key problem with them, which is that they mix their nationalism with their liberalism. Now that made sense in the pre-World War II international context, historical context, because liberalism, when it first came into existence, it was fundamentally an anti-monarchical, anti-aristocratic movement. That’s fundamentally what it was about. And it saw common cause with nationalism in many contexts toward that end. Because obviously it makes sense that if you’re trying to expand the franchise and empower larger groups of people, you can be speaking on behalf of the nation and say:

 

“The King or the aristocracy, they’re just in it for themselves. We here, we represent the French people, or we here represent the American people.”

 

And you can assert the necessity of a kind of constitutional liberal state on that basis.

 

And also there was other historical reasons, like you think about, for example, Austro-Hungarian Empire and you know, there’s a whole patchwork of smaller ethnic groups, many of which had nationalist movements agitating for self-determination. Well, if you’re agitating for self-determination against the monarchical order, well then it makes sense to obviously to appeal to nationalism and to liberalism at the same time in that context.

 

So anyway, there was lots of we can go into that. There’s a lot of context for that.

 

But my point was a dialectical point which is inspired a lot by Schmitt’s insights, which obviously are quite pertinent and relevant because we’re talking about the greatest German political philosopher of the time period when the National Socialists are getting their movement together, and he ultimately joined the party.

 

And Schmitt’s point in his Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy, which I believe was published in 1923, obviously it’s a broader text, but the core idea in that text is that liberalism and democracy have come as a package deal, but they’re actually based on core ideas which are contradictory. And that this contradiction will come to manifest itself, he prophesied in the 20th century. And that it was already beginning to manifest itself. And these ideas will become divorced from one another and realise they are actually in opposition. And what he means by democracy is the notion of popular sovereignty. And Schmitt appeals to essentially nationalism and frames it in terms of nationalism that in order to have a true democracy, in order to truly have popular sovereignty, you need a homogeneous population, because otherwise it becomes incoherent for the people to have a collective will. And he references Rousseau and how, you know, Rousseau makes the point that the general will, it’s not just the mere sum total of individual wills, it is the will of those who will the common good of the people.

 

So if you’re voting or politically active in the pursuit of your class interest or your minority, whatever group interest or your individual interest, you’re not actually genuinely participating in the exercise of popular sovereignty. You’re only really doing that insofar as you’re thinking about the common good of your people at large.

 

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And so that requires a definition. You need to actually know, well, who is the demos, so to speak, that is in charge, who is the people. And that then brings you to a nationalist position of a definition of who they are and who they aren’t. And Schmitt, you know makes this point quite well and convincingly in my view. And he says:

 

“Well, this therefore puts it in opposition to the contractarian liberal view which is built around notions of rights and is built around the notion of Parliamentary discussion between heterogeneous elements. Whereas popular sovereignty implies the imposition of a homogeneous majority and its will over the state. Liberalism is built on the idea of basically creating constitutional protections and normative protections for minority interests and individual interests against the state.”

 

And he said these two ideas therefore are going to be on a collision course. And my argument therefore is that what National Socialism was a concrete historical expression of the nationalist idea, completely divorcing itself of all liberal connotations and taking itself to its logical conclusion.

 

And so when it took itself to its logical conclusion, it turned against Parliamentarianism. It embraced a kind of a very anti-bourgeois orientation. It took and it wasn’t communistic, it didn’t, you know, totally nationalise all industry or something, but it nationalised finance. You know, it pursued a kind of autarkic policy subordinating all economic interests to the national interest and also basically building up national strength and self reliance for the nation to be able to assert itself as an independent will in the world.

 

And this also being tied to its cultural programs where all media that was foreign owned or jewish owned or whatever was to be gotten rid of they went in and they broke up the Freemasonic lodges. They banned Marxist organisations. They just simply wasn’t, they weren’t going to tolerate anything which ran counter to their conception of the German people’s will. In, as in its, in a kind of culturally purified sense, a philosophically informed sense, not just whatever German people are currently supporting is the German people’s will. No! It’s only the self conscious German people’s will. And everything which gets in the way of that self consciousness needs to be basically purified from social and political life.

 

And so this is a very radical project which is differentiated from liberal projects of nationalism. And liberalism, then reconstituted itself in reaction to it. So in the post World War II international order, liberalism has now purged itself of the kind of its old nationalist associations as well. And liberalism has also purified itself according to this idea of protecting minority and individual rights and has greatly expanded its conception of its duty to minority groups and to individual groups and radically suppresses majoritarian organisation and the assertion of the majority will.

 

And you get to the point now where most liberal elites say “populism is the greatest threat to democracy”, which seems like an absurd statement. But it makes sense if you see democracy as liberalism, as Schmitt conceives of it. When they say democracy, obviously Schmitt would say, well that’s not democracy, it’s its antithesis.

 

But you know, so according to that dialectical process, which I think is pretty hard to refute, according to that dialectical process, therefore the notion, the very idea of nationalism in its opposition now to liberalism, therefore needs to be contended with as an idea unto itself. And that is therefore mediated by the spectre of National Socialism. It doesn’t mean that every single movement of illiberal nationalism that can come into existence is a one to one copy of National Socialism. But it bears some association, right? It bears some association, very important association.

 

And also I would argue that it’s necessary for nationalism to take on an illiberal form in order to actually address everything that has happened to our country since, like the infestation of foreign races and so on that has occurred. In order for us to become truly independent of these forces it’s going to require a very interventionist state. It’s going to require a very active programme that is going to be highly exclusionary and is going to have to carry out policies which are extreme according to, like the sensibilities of the common man in today’s world or maybe in any world.

 

And so as a result of that, in order to preserve our racial survival, I think we have to then look to National Socialism as an example of the nationalist idea taken to its logical conclusion and say:

 

“Well, we also kind of need to take this idea to its logical conclusion. We also need to purge ourselves of liberalism.”

 

And so we can take inspiration from them even if we don’t want to copy every aspect. And obviously if we’re not Germans, we’re not going to copy their foreign policy. That would make absolutely no sense.

 

And even in today’s Germany, I don’t think would benefit from the same kind of foreign policy. I think now the situation that Europe is in is going to require a far more pan-European solution than ever before because Europe is comparatively far weaker relative to the rest of the world and is more interdependent than ever before.

 

So the form that it takes, basically the foreign policy of National Socialist Germany is the most irrelevant aspect for us today. The relevant aspects, it’s the process by which National Socialism rose to power. The process by which National Socialism turned itself against liberal Marxist jewish elements and took on International Finance and sought to create self sufficiency and self consciousness within the German people and manifest it in a concrete political form that crushed all of its enemies in the domestic sphere. That to me is what I take inspiration from and what is pertinent and what needs to be basically rehabilitated.

 

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Greg Johnson: So nationalism that’s anti-liberal, basically what you can call national populism today. What do you believe in terms of the idea of sovereignty? This is related obviously to Schmitt both in the crisis of Parliamentary democracy and also the one idea that everybody seems to know from Schmitt about the sovereign being the person who decides to be the exception. It seems to me that there are really two different concepts of sovereignty there and that the most important one is the idea of popular sovereignty. That ultimately what’s sovereign is the common good of a particular people. That is the criterion by which you judge legitimacy. It’s the criterion by which you judge policies.

 

Basically that is what populism is about. When people talk about populism today, they’re really talking about the assertion of the sovereignty of a particular people usually against a liberal, democratic political system that has battened on these societies.

 

And basically liberal democracy is the art of not giving the people what they want. I think it ultimately boils down to in practice minority rule. It starts out with protection of minority rights, but it ends up being the minority veto.

 

And ultimately that ends up being ruled by empowered minorities, political insiders, political elites, and hence populism tends to array the majority against the elites. So I mean there are two senses of the populace and populism. One is the people as a whole and its legitimate interests. And then there’s the many, the majority who are excluded from power by, and have their interests not represented by the people who do occupy power, which are the elites.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course.

 

Well, I mean obviously populism has a kind of certain vagueness in a lot of its manifestations. For example, if we look at like contemporary examples, like insofar as you could call Donald Trump a populist and the MAGA movement populist or whatever, you can see that it’s completely ideologically vapid. That a lot of contemporary populist movements are like this, where they kind of have this vague kind of appeal to heartland’s traditional understanding of what the country is and is supposed to be about and play to their identity in kind of vague ways.

 

But there isn’t really like a very concrete programme that is put forward or even worldview. And so when these movements get electoral success, usually they just become recuperated by the broader system. And maybe the system makes a few subtle adaptations, or maybe even not so subtle adaptations to incorporate it and kind of return to status quo. Which is like what we’re seeing now in the United States, where what Trump’s original movement was about and what it currently is are two very distinct things. I think what Trump’s success basically means now is a recognition in a large portion of the American elite for the necessity to move from a liberal internationalist to a realist foreign policy in order to deal with a rising China and all of its ramifications. And so that’s why it’s been tolerated.

 

And basically the idea that Americans are not going to be galvanised to really face the threat of a rising China on the basis of wokeness, but instead, [chuckling] or something, they’re going to have some kind of, at least the semblance of patriotism, you know, given to them in addition to the kind of assertion of American interests specifically, rather than just this project of like liberal internationalism, America as the kind of merely like the vanguard of liberal internationalism or something.

 

But anyway, that’s besides the point. I mean, the point basically that I’m putting forward is that National Socialism is a totally cohesive ideology that is actually thought through to its logical conclusions, and it is built off, … Well, if we basically purge all other kind of, all liberal notions from the idea of nationalism and just think through, from it up, you basically get something akin to National Socialism in any kind of equivalent context to Germany in the early 20th century. If you are to repudiate it from a moral standpoint, if you can say:

 

“Oh, well, I don’t agree with this or that foreign policy decision.”

 

That’s one thing. But if you’re to repudiate National Socialism as a tendency, what you’re basically saying is that the nationalist idea itself is dangerous. The nationalist idea itself needs to be immunised against working itself out to its logical conclusion, because its logical conclusion is the most horrible thing that has ever happened ever in world history. And that’s the Spectre that we’re living in.

 

And so the immunisation of the nationalist idea results basically in it being rendered utterly impotent. And so when nationalists have to constantly provide these elaborate forms of justification as to how they’re not Nazis. And why all of the aspects of National Socialism, which are scary are not present in our nationalism. Well, what that basically forces you to do is submit to the paradigm moral and ideological of the enemy.

 

And insofar as you’re doing that, you’re basically not asserting your own idea from a strong moral standpoint. You’re not providing a strong projection of will behind your worldview, which really is the whole essence here. The assertion and total victory of the national will over the state is what the project is supposed to be! Now it becomes known, negotiating from a losing position some modicum of national survival within a system that’s fundamentally built around literally the destruction of your people.

 

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Greg Johnson: Now, there are two points here. One, I don’t know how worked out a political philosophy National Socialism really was.

 

If you look at it, there were a lot of different tendencies. And when Hitler came to power, there was a lot of improvisation and chaos actually in the government. I don’t know if they had a system worked out in concrete political terms or in intellectual terms. There were all kinds of debates that were going on within Germany at the time.

 

And one of the ways to understand that is that this was part of a larger cultural and political movement, anti-liberalism, the conservative revolution in Germany and so forth. And it wasn’t necessarily a worked out political ideology.

 

But the second thing, and this is more important, I don’t see why it’s problematic for nationalists to say there’s a good kind of nationalism and a bad kind of nationalism. And the bad kind of nationalism is the nationalism for me, but not for the position [opposition]. It’s:

 

“Yes, I’m going to take care of my nation and I’m going to figure out all the ways that I can stick it to my neighbours!”

 

Which historically is what nationalism generally means.

 

And this is why you can get people who issue these pious lectures that the reason why we had the First World War and the Second World War was this bad old form of nationalism. And therefore we need to get beyond nationalism. I get that argument and I can say:

 

“Well, wait, but there’s another kind of nationalism which is not beggar thy neighbour nationalism. It’s not nationalism for me, but not for thee.”

 

It’s a consistent position that acknowledges that there’s a plurality of different peoples in the world with different interests and different ways of life. When these people have to occupy the same territory and compete for control of the same government, they generally start hating each other. And come to blows. Fortunately though, the world is big enough for every people to have its own patch of dirt, its own borders, its own state. And therefore we support nationalism, understood as the principle of self-determination for all nations. I don’t see anything wrong with that.

 

Okay, so what’s your critique of that?

 

Joel Davis: First of all, a very obvious point to make is you’re saying the world is big enough for every people to have their own nation. Okay, but the world isn’t equally divided, right? There is obviously some national territories are much bigger than others. Some national territories are more strategically advantageous than others. Some national territories have far more natural resources than others, and so on and so what this creates there is power is a reality in the global system.

 

So if you have some states that are incredibly large and powerful and some states that are incredibly small and dependent on larger states, you don’t really have self-determination of all peoples. What you have is a system that maybe could dress itself up in that language, but ultimately is a system where there’s some very big states that create orders of alliances of subordinate states in antagonism toward one another. Which is basically what we have. So that then has to then be navigated as its own reality. So in the example of Europe, Europe has been remade in the image of, basically American ideology in the post World War II international order. There hasn’t been a self-determination of all European peoples.

 

There’s been an active project of subversion led by foreign power to change the political culture and culture in general of European nations in order to make them more ideologically simpatico with American foreign policy objectives.

 

Greg Johnson: And I grant that’s an undesirable thing. And I would say:

 

“Okay, isn’t that an example of the bad old form of nationalism too?”

 

Joel Davis: But it isn’t nationalism. The American, …

 

Joel Davis: It’s imperialism. Right?

 

Greg Johnson: Yeah, okay, so this goes to an even deeper point and again to bring up Schmitt again and his Concept of the Political. Schmitt, I think, provided a very good prediction and refutation in advance in 1932 when that book was released of what would ultimately be the Liberal international order. By saying that the doctrine of pacifism is either fundamentally non-political, in other words, no one is willing to actually fight for it, or it becomes, paradoxically and ironically, actually one of the most destructive and violent and imperial doctrines ever asserted. If you actually turn it into a political doctrine and you say:

 

“No one is allowed to make war on this planet because making war is itself immoral.”

 

What does that then necessitate? It necessitates an international order to be asserted to act. It proactively prevent war from breaking out, which requires basically global domination of the pacifists. Right?

 

Greg Johnson: I do think that you can create an international order that penalises people from committing aggressive war with their neighbours. And you could do things like the Persians did to the Greeks after they stopped trying to conquer them. I forget which Persian emperor, I think it was Auto Xerxes II, basically enforced peace on Greece by saying:

 

“If one Greek city state attacks another, I will align myself with the victim and put the Persian Empire’s resources behind them.”

 

And it did manage to pacify Greece for the better part of a generation. These things can happen!

 

Joel Davis: That’s the assertion of a powerful empire though. So if America comes into Europe and says, and offers the same deal, which I guess the British kind of were doing, that I guess you could say to a certain extent. Because it’s in their interests for Europe to remain divided as opposed to becoming dominated by one power and unified underneath their control into a more powerful state than the British Empire or America, then that obviously serves their particular national interests.

 

But maybe the European national interests or the European people’s interests are actually served better by becoming so powerful they don’t have to be subordinated or be mutually weakened to the British or to the Americans, but actually could become powerful enough to assert themselves and assert their destiny.

 

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Greg Johnson: I think that that would be highly desirable and that’s certainly possible.

 

Joel Davis: That’s the National Socialist worldview, basically one of the core tenets, which is that in order for us to assert our destiny in the world, we have to become strong. We have to become so strong that basically no one can get in our way. That we can become, basically develop sufficient national strength to the point at which no one can say anything to us. And that is the ambition basically of every great world historical state is to become so powerful that no one from the outside can impose its ideas and its culture and its power structures upon you. And that often requires expansionism to actually become feasible. That requires active meddling in the affairs of foreign peoples in order to achieve that.

 

And so this idea that the world is big enough for everyone to be able to determine their own destiny, I just think is false! And history is my witness. Because being a small state subject to much bigger states is not actually self-determination. You aren’t determining your own destiny if for Example, you’re a small European state that, yeah, okay, your people get to elect their own representatives, but ultimately your entire political process and culture is being massively influenced by a foreign state that is trying to impose its will upon you, because you aren’t strong enough to be able to build up your own financial, commercial, military, etc., institutions that enable you to become genuinely self reliant and self-determining in a totalizing way. Self determination requires self assertion and requires far more comprehensive, it actually has far more comprehensive requirements than simply having a nominal state called Germany, where the German citizens elect representatives.

 

Greg Johnson: Yeah, well, this brings into play another concept of sovereignty which I think is important to distinguish, which is you have this idea of sovereign states in the world today and there are 200 of them basically. And under international law, sovereign states are equal. Now what does that mean?

 

Obviously they’re not equal in terms of population, military power or anything like that. So in what sense are they equal? They’re morally equal! Meaning that they have certain rights vis a vis one another and that these rights can be violated of course, because having rights doesn’t make you bulletproof.

 

But the point is that the idea of a sovereign state is not a material feature of a state. It’s autarky, it’s invincibility, it’s invulnerability, it’s a moral concept. It’s basically the international equivalent of moral personhood within a legal order. And if sovereignty doesn’t mean that, if sovereignty means basically invulnerability and autarky, then there is no such thing as a sovereign state. Because even the biggest and most powerful state states in the world today are less powerful than the entire rest of the world if it unites against them.

 

And so if you understand sovereignty simply in terms of autarky and invulnerability, there’s no such thing as sovereignty because nobody is autarkic and nobody’s invulnerable.

 

Joel Davis: Those are ideals to aspire towards, like to become as powerful and self reliant as possible.

 

And the more powerful and self reliant you become, the more capacity you have to self-determine. That’s what self-determination means. That you are literally in control of your own destiny, that you are acting and expressing according to standards you derive from your relation to yourself rather than your relation to others.

 

And so obviously the more powerful you are as a state, the more capacity you have to do this. And the much more difficult it is for other states, foreign states, to argue the point and to undermine you. So that’s just a concrete reality. You can argue for this abstract ideal, but in the real world that’s just a fact.

 

And so what I care about as a nationalist is the actual concrete fact of how much self-determination my people have, rather than the abstract ideal where we could say:

 

“Well, wouldn’t it be so great if everyone in the world could all agree to these abstract rules?”

 

And it’s, well, those abstract rules in practice, no one’s actually willing to fight for them unless they’re getting something out of it, generally speaking.

 

And so the current paradigm under which those rules are upheld is either defended by the Americans when it suits them, or violated by the Americans when it suits them, or defended by the Russians when it suits them, and violated by the Russians when it suits them and so on. It’s not a genuine reality. It is a sham edifice.

 

So I’d rather Pierce through that and get to the fundamental and get to the real. And this is also why it’s important to come back to, I think, Romanticism versus the Enlightenment and German philosophy itself, which in many respects is a radical accounting of particularity and in particular national particularity.

 

If you want to look at people like Herder, Fichte, there is a in romanticist German philosophy tied up within German nationalist project originally in the 19th century was:

 

“Okay, we just got ramroded by Napoleon. There’s this giant British Empire that is imposing its commercial will on the world. We need to bring all these kingdoms together into a big German state so that we can be powerful enough to protect German national particularity against these foreign influences and never be run over by a foreign military in the same way Napoleon did, ever again!”

 

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And so there was a kind of a very strong movement towards recognizing all that is particular as opposed to looking for just simply what is universal rather than this ideal of well, how do we negotiate this international order according to universal principles? How do we actually find what’s particular about being German and what about our own self relation?

 

And again, the concept of national self-determination. You can see why this is actually way more relevant than what is universal about the idea of trying to universalise the concept of national self-determination into just merely a set of like universal principles that could be respected. Instead, let’s look at the actual concreteness of what is our particular national culture, what is our particular national consciousness? What does it mean? And how can it fundamentally be protected? And how can we fight for our particular, in their case, German national expression?

 

And I don’t care about the national self-determination of fucking Libyans. I don’t care about the national self-determination of fucking Syrians or Indians or all these countries that I have absolutely no care or concern for! I really don’t. I would not permit the sacrifice of one drop of the blood of our race to defend any of their nationalisms. I don’t give a shit about their nationalisms! I only care about the nationalisms of people whom I respect, people with whom I have some kind of fealty, some kind of kinship. They’re the only nationalisms that I actually care about that I find relevant.

 

And so for me, as someone who comes from a more romanticist standpoint, I empathize far more with this view that it’s from like, and particularly if you’re a German at that time, it’s like, in order for Germany to have its own culture and not be dominated by these foreign influences, we have to fall in love with ourselves and we have to build a political movement that is for us in particularity, because we’re the only ones that truly care about being German people who are not German. There’s a few Germanophiles, but generally can’t understand and don’t care about our national destiny because they don’t participate in it. So why would they? And that makes complete sense.

 

And then development of German thought. I mean, if you get to someone like Martin Heidegger, well, obviously this is actually quite this is moving into far more abstract territory.

 

But, you know, Martin Heidegger in his critique of technicity or the kind of technological worldview, technological and framing, or the kind of metaphysics of modernity, the reduction of thought, in his view, to a kind of ratiocinative calculating modes of thought fundamentally deprive us of having a kind of a relation to the homeland. For Heidegger, the homeland is something which actually is ambiguous, which is pretty rational. It’s related a lot to myth, to artistic forms, to spirituality.

 

And so, and this is very much what the German, like volkish tradition was also trying to drive at in its focus upon, you know, reviving, you know, ancient German mythologies and Wagnerian operas, you know, pertaining to pursuit of the Holy Grail, and which obviously isn’t particularly German, but it’s Germanic you could say, or it’s Northern European. It’s part of all Northwestern European culture. Trying to drive to like, what is actually the spiritual meaning of what it means to be German as opposed to just simply what is universal about all nations that Germans also possess? Actually, what is particular about individual nations is far more interesting and far more pertinent.

 

And I agree with Heidegger that basically this ratiocinative, universalistic way of thinking actually came into the world through the conduit of my people. It actually came into the world very strongly through the conduit of the Anglo English people. I actually do feel Germanophilic about this. I actually think that’s a tragedy. I think that’s a great problem. And it’s highly contributive to why we became a, not just in England, but in all of our colonial projects, we became essentially a power in the world that enabled the machinations of international finance and commercialism, and jewish ethnic interest and so on to become so monstrous through the prism of that worldview. Through a kind of loss of a spiritual sense of the homeland and our relation to all that which is pre-rational that makes up our identity as a people. And the Germans were resisting that process. The Germans had a lot more of a cultural immunisation and a high cultural immunisation against that process and a rejection of that process.

 

And so I think the Germans were the correct spiritual leaders of Europe. I think we were the incorrect spiritual leaders of Europe, which is what ended up happening Now. Europe has been remade in the image of our culture which is built, which is these notions of universal rights and so on are derived from. And it’s causing the suicide of our race!

 

And it’s also a worldview. And Heidegger makes the point that in the black notebooks that the jewish people, because they lack a homeland, their fundamental orientation towards the world is calculative, is ratiocinative.

 

And so a worldview they can inhabit, a metaphysic that they can inhabit, which is reductive in that sense, is exemplary to the accumulation of their power.

 

Whereas a worldview which tries to reach back into the pre-rational essence of the homeland into the earth from which our particular national world in the Heideggerian language, out of which it arises, but which is kind of mysterious and ambiguous, and not reducible to any kind of like, conceptual schema, that actually is the form of spiritual immunisation and the form of spiritual resistance, of the assertion of our national cultures against this kind of jewish homelessness.

 

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Greg Johnson: Yeah, there’s a lot to that. German romanticism, new German philosophy in general is very, especially the anti-Enlightenment strain of it, is very critical of globalisation, basically. And I think that that’s entirely correct.

 

I do think that the British mind, the tendency of Anglos is to mistake their full consciousness for the universal. And that’s very bad! Anglo-Americans, they really mistake their folkish ways as universal, and they think of themselves as avatars of the universal.

 

And that means that they basically promote the destruction of their own people and every other people, because they just don’t think that there’s any meaningful difference. I know that Swedish liberals are like this too. I was speaking to the Swedish woman who’s saying:

 

“Yes, you know, Swedes in their hearts, the Swedish Leftists believe that everybody wants to be just like them.”

 

They can’t fathom that there would be anybody who would want a radically different way of life and that therefore admitting such people into their societies could threaten it. There is something very peculiar about that.

 

But let’s just say that we affirm folkishness and say, yes, there are many different peoples. They have many different worldviews, different ways of life. And again, the best way to cultivate that is to separate them. Because we notice historically that when they’re competing for territory or government favours or whatever, the more diverse the society is, the more unnecessary conflicts that we support self-determination. You still get this question, okay, well, how is that kind of world going to be governed? You can be a complete realist about enmity, like Schmitt, you can say we will never have a world where there’s no difference between the insiders and the outsiders.

 

But you can still ask, okay, given that we accept that this is the world that we live in, what are the best ways of establishing amicable relations across a globe like that? If you affirm nationalism, if you understand that it’s in a way inevitable and you try and deal with the problems that people who are broad thinking face, which is how are we going to live together on this finite planet? You’ve got to come up with some kind of geopolitical vision of how these different groups are going to get along.

 

Joel Davis: So why is “getting along” just simply conceding to the other, like a really effective strategy in getting along with somebody is becoming far more powerful than them. So they fear you and are forced to submit to you. That’s actually a really effective strategy at people being very friendly to you is when they fear you. When they don’t fear you, it’s actually a lot harder to get their friendship.

 

So this idea that we need to have this universal nationalist ideology in order to get along doesn’t make any sense to me! What makes a lot more sense to me is how about we just become really fucking powerful and then we can negotiate from a position of strength rather than weakness in how we’re going to relate to surrounding groups.

 

Greg Johnson: And this is the situation that Whites are in today, and this is the situation that nationalists are in today. I get the image of George Floyd under the knee of a cop, under the knee of a globalist cop. And there are two ways that you can get out from under the knee of this globalist system, and only one of them really works. And that would be to appeal to whatever elements of fairness and decency there are in the guy who’s got his knee on your neck. Now that doesn’t mean that you can persuade everybody in the world, but there are many, many interlocking powers that are screwing us right now and driving us to extinction. And some of them definitely can be appealed to on moral grounds.

 

But the one thing that I know is never going to work is if George Floyd, you know, under the knee is saying:

 

“I’m going to kill you know, let me up and I’m going to kill you!”

 

And that I think is basically the position that you’re articulating. Because we’re in a situation now where we’re going to have to, because we have no power now. We’re the weak, and, …

 

Joel Davis: I fundamentally disagree that Whites collectively lack the ability to assert ourselves on the basis of our own strength. We do have that ability.

 

Greg Johnson: We do if we change our thinking about certain things, and you’re not addressing, I think, the predominant thinking patterns that stand in the way of that. And any kind of philosophy that smacks of “might is right” or something like that, I think is a non-starter for us today because we’re the weak! And if we believe that might is right, then we believe that we should be believing that our enemies are in the Right. And clearly we don’t believe that.

 

Joel Davis: That doesn’t follow at all! The reason Whites are in the position that we’re in is because of our own ideas and our own kind of moral proclivities. It’s not because of the assertion of any other group against us in a way that dominates us against our will. It is a willful embrace of these ideas. If Whites collectively mobilise the willpower to resist what is happening and assert ourselves on the basis of our own strength, we do have the strength to regain sovereignty over at least some territory, if not pretty much all of the like, our historical territories across the West. We are by far collectively the most powerful, richest, most effective fighting groups in our respective nations. Like no other group, even all of them combined would lose to us if we were organised and assertive on our own terms.

 

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Greg Johnson: What’s stopping us?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, so what’s stopping us? What’s stopping us is moral cuckoldry essentially. What’s stopping us is this universalistic world view that we’re debating. I mean, what’s stopping us is this necessity to process our self assertion through some kind of like universal humanitarian, abstract set of principles of rights. And that is fundamentally a bullshit edifice. It’s not, …

 

Greg Johnson: I don’t think it’s a bullshit edifice.

 

Joel Davis: And it’s derived in a fundamentally flawed worldview from my standpoint, metaphysically and logically.

 

Greg Johnson: Okay, what is that flawed worldview? Just briefly, where does it come from? What are some of the thinkers that articulate this?

 

Joel Davis: First of all, I mean, we’ve been discussing the kind of the concrete ridiculousness of a kind of universal nationalism that it doesn’t actually in practice realise the principle of self-determination, which is the core principle with which it seeks to realise. And so therefore it’s in contradiction with its own principle. So logically it’s just a non-starter.

 

Secondarily from a metaphysical standpoint, I agree with a Heideggerian premise that this attempt at reducing the moral to a kind of universal rationality rather than asserting one’s particularity is again I think fundamentally incongruent with the human condition as such.

 

Greg Johnson: Right, okay. Okay. Yeah, well, let’s start out with that. Okay. I look at Hobbes and I think Hobbes provides us with a path by which you start out with something like a self assertive group, or a self assertive individual with no rules. Right.

 

What did Trayvon Martin call himself? He called himself a “No Limit Nigger”. I think that was the term. Well, imagine a world of “No Limit Niggers” basically all asserting themselves against one another. That’s the world that you’re picturing. That’s the world that realists in foreign policy picture. It’s the state of nature in Hobbes’s terms. And Hobbes make a very good argument that actually if you’re rational, you will want to get out of that state of nature as quickly as you possibly can and establish certain boundaries, of limits. You want to have limits! You want to have limits because in the end it’s in all of your interests. And he actually makes a fantastically cynical argument for equality. As one of my Professors as an undergraduate put it, he said:

 

“Hobbes argument for equality is this. You might be big and tough, but you’ve got to sleep sometime. And when you do, a bunch of skinny guys can get together and shank you. And that’s the end of you. That’s the end of the high and mighty.”

 

And you could do that in individual terms. Think of the prison house, right? The bully in the prison. Or you can think of it in global terms, in terms of countries.

 

And again, there’s no country that’s so big that the rest of the world couldn’t get together and shank it. You’ve got to sleep sometime, right?

 

And that means that, …

 

Joel Davis: Well, I disagree, actually. I mean, Russia and the United States have nuclear arsenals that could completely wipe humanity off the face of the planet. They are in a certain sense impossible to shank!

 

Greg Johnson: Well, if people really want to go to the limit, they can be shanked.

 

But the point is that, and there is this odd little thing that’s happened that’s very disturbing to my view because I love to say, wait a second here. Nuclear arsenal, it’s the ultimate, it’s the ultimate ace in the hole. We’ve recently had a nuclear power invaded by a non-nuclear power. You know, it’s the whole Kursk thing in the Russia-Ukraine war, which is kind of extraordinary because I was really hoping that the you could basically hide behind those nuclear arsenals.

 

But the point is that, …

 

Joel Davis: That’s a bad example because it didn’t, wouldn’t existentially threaten the Russian state. I mean, they weren’t “shanked”! It was a minor border incursion. It wasn’t going to escalate to like dropping nukes.

 

Greg Johnson: Well, but here’s the thing that they, …

 

Joel Davis: They have designs over integrating into their own federation. And they want to win the public opinion of at least the people who live in the territory they’re annexing.

 

Greg Johnson: Yeah, well, but you know, the point is that if you, … Hobbes makes an argument that if you have a world in the state of nature, you will all rationally, both the very strong and the very weak want to move to a conflict resolution, conflict containment model that involves things like rights.

 

Now, of course, the problem with Hobbes’s view is that it implies the necessity of a sovereign. How do you deal with a world, and by sovereign that’s a decider. And how do you deal with that in a world where states are to one another, as Hobbes would recognised, as individuals are to the state of to one another in the state of nature. There’s no overarching power, so what do you have to do?

 

Well, they’ve been trying that for hundreds and hundreds of years, since really the conclusion of the Thirty Years War, to create international law and international institutions to deal with conflict resolution.

 

And there are two models of globalism. The terrifying, horrible model of globalism, in my view, is the commercial model where everything is interlaced on the levels of the economy of desire and everything becomes commodified and everything slowly becomes homogenised because why wouldn’t you listen to Taylor Swift all over the world if you could, right? That kind of bullshit! That’s a terrifying model of globalisation because it destroys culture and peoples.

 

But there’s another vision of globalisation that I think that we have to try and figure out how to make it work, and that is the “conflict resolution” model. How can we have a world independent states, and yet make sure that these independent states don’t spin out of control and create global thermonuclear wars and things like that? That I think is a reasonable enterprise. And yes, you want to be as strong as you possibly can given that these things might not work. Go ahead.

 

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Joel Davis: I mean, you bringing up Hobbes, I mean, is kind of crazy because the whole theory of Hobbes as you kind of just mentioned and then jutted away from, is that the only way to overcome the state of nature is for there to be a monarch that isn’t just simply formally presiding over some kind of constitutional order, but is actually concretely so powerful as such that it can dominate the entire social sphere and is powerful enough to deprive us universally of all of our rights, but then in the pursuit of peace, grant us a limited series of rights. That’s the basic premise. And that what we inherit from submitting and empowering the monarch to become so powerful as to be essentially impossible to resist is that we then inherit a set of limited rights.

 

Well, in the international system, what that would mean would mean that there would have to be one country that is so powerful that it can utterly dominate the entire earth. Now if that country is dominating the entire earth and it has an ideology that is genociding my race, well, that’s fundamentally unacceptable! Now if it’s a country that is dominating the entire earth and it’s like Nazi Germany, maybe I don’t mind so much.

 

So the question is who is going to be sovereign insofar as that cannot exist, you can only really have limited pockets of negotiated relationships. So if within Europe you have one all powerful state that’s just so much more powerful than all the other states combined with, they create a regional order, but you know, that couldn’t then be universalised. You know, they don’t have the power to dominate maybe the entire planet, but they can dominate a region. Right. Like in North America, America kind of functions like that. Like it’s basically almost impossible to argue with the American government from the perspective of, and they can just flagrantly just go and you know, just, the CIA can just like go into Mexico and just start like taking over, engaging in massive covert operations. And the Mexican government barely says anything because they don’t really have sovereignty because their neighbour is just so powerful that they barely have a very limited amount of sovereignty.

 

So there’s obviously the point that I’m making is that appealing to this notion is itself the refutation of this idea of that we can sit down and just have a rational discussion about the morality of national sovereignty and create an international order around that. No! The Hobbesian argument is that we can’t sit down and have a rational discussion about our mutual rights, that the human condition doesn’t allow for that. All we can do is create a centre of power so powerful that it can impose only a limited series of rights and it basically itself be elevated outside of that same order and have the ability to violate it, have the ability and become so powerful you can’t do anything about its violations.

 

Greg Johnson: Yeah, well, I understand that, but Hobbes understood that right on the global level there is going to be no sovereign. And there were other thinkers who came later, really who tried to figure out, okay, how could we have, how could we model relations between sovereign European states in such a way that they can relate to one another without, …

 

Greg Johnson: That obviously failed, didn’t it?

 

Joel Davis: Well, yes and no. There is this notion of collegiality as a model of relationships. What is that? Well, collegiality means that they’re independent actors with common goals and interests, but no overall hierarchy that controls them. And the idea of the comity of nations in international law, it is basically a collegial model for sovereign states to come together and work out their problems. It’s remarkable, though, how many sovereign states have existed for very long times with no power at all! Some of the oldest sovereign entities in Europe are the tiniest and most powerless, like Monaco or Lichtenstein or San Marino. How is that possible? Well, it’s possible because, …

 

Greg Johnson: They pose no threat!

 

Joel Davis: Well, it be you could say that. Or they have friendly relations with their neighbours.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but they pose no threat and obviously don’t have the ability to assert themselves. And so therefore it’s unnecessary to develop enmity with them. Whereas the more powerful you get, the more enemies you’re going to accrue, because the more fearsome you become.

 

And also, I’m not saying that nations can’t be friends or recognise mutual interests. Obviously they can. And from my perspective, the nations of Europe should find common cause at this time in history, because we now are in a very different world than we were in 100 or 200 years ago, when the European powers were so far ahead of the rest of the world technologically that their mutual enmity really was the decisive factor of who controlled global destiny.

 

Whereas now the rest of the world has caught up and our race needs to come together to safeguard the future of our civilisation and culture, which is very largely shared. There is a very substantial aspect of the culture of every individual European nation is the collective European culture. In fact, I would say overwhelmingly so.

 

And so in order to safeguard our civilisation, we need to find common cause and put aside old differences which in previous bygone historical contexts were more relevant, actually.

 

And that’s why there were so many wars in Europe and why now there isn’t really the same appetite for war in Europe, but there still is a current war in Europe. Why is that? Because there’s still a clash between two, basically two fundamental power structures over the determination of Russia’s sphere of influence, NATO’s sphere of influence.

 

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And so, in a sense, what that demonstrates is that the only reason why you’ve had relative peace in Europe for so long is because of the domination of really big and powerful superpowers that have nukes pointed at each other and Europe’s subordination essentially to the American led international order. So that isn’t Europe creating this ideal of rational discussion where the Polish are coming and sitting down with the Czechs and sitting down with the French and working out their individual differences. It’s the fact that they’re all subject to much larger powers and so they’re not actually able to assert themselves and have genuine [chuckling] differences under these conditions.

 

Greg Johnson: Let me ask you, do you think that Europe will ever become a formidable separate independent block without one European country dominating the rest of the continent?

 

Joel Davis: Well, the reality is that when Europe, so let’s say America keeps going down this path of moving towards a realist foreign policy away from liberal internationalism which I really hope occurs. I really hope that this isn’t a temporary aberration, and I think it’s necessary because the rise of China is necessitating it. And the Americans get out of Europe largely, and Europe finds some self assertion in coming decades as a result of that and further European integration is pursued. And obviously they’re dealing with Russians to the east. And so they need to be strong and powerful to resist Russian advances.

 

And they also need to be able to provide their people with a political formula that can resist Russian subversion which hopefully moves them towards the assertion of Europe’s particularity, that moves them towards the assertion of their actual ethnic and racial identity. And we get policies like re-migration and the borders get shut. That would be beautiful if that happens. That’d be my ideal.

 

If we get into that kind of world and Europe starts to trying to re-inspire patriotism and develop a kind of a national patriot movements in various European nations that align themselves and build up independent military strength, economic strength and so on. When that Europe sits down and meets, right, the leaders of Europe to whatever this future European Union or if it has a different name, whatever, whoever is the leader of Germany, whoever is the leader of France, what they say and what they want is going to matter a hell of a lot more than whoever the leader of Croatia is or whoever the leader of Lithuania is. Right? And that’s just the reality. Now that doesn’t mean that we hate Lithuanians and we hate Croatians.

 

But at the end of the day the power of Europe is more fundamentally concentrated in those bigger, more consequential States, then there’s more minor states. And so therefore, you know, Europe will come under German and French leadership. It will. And we’ll have to go in that direction.

 

Greg Johnson: Will Germany and France fight it out?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I mean they probably will have antagonism, but you know, if they have a mutual animus of greater enemies around the world, that gives them a strong incentive to work out their differences and form a strong alliance. Right?

 

Greg Johnson: Yeah. I mean, it’s possible to come up with a simulacrum of human behaviour that’s entirely based on selfishness as a motivation. And liberals love to do that. Right. And foreign policy realists love to do that’s sort of what you’re doing now.

 

Joel Davis: It’s not based on selfishness though. It’s securing your national community and its future, that is not selfishness. That’s service to your people!

 

Greg Johnson: Well, but you’re talking about selfishness in terms of vis a vis other countries. And I, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Okay. So obviously Germans care more about Germans than they care about Greek people. But there could still be a wider European fidelity as well. It’s not an either or.

 

Greg Johnson: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: They can also care about Europe at large.

 

Greg Johnson: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Like if you’re really awake, you would realise that the particular national destiny of any one European nation is actually intimately tied to the collective destiny of the European people. And so you have to safeguard that to safeguard your own national interests as well.

 

So you can have concentric circles of identity. It doesn’t have to be one absolute identity to the exclusion of all others. There can be multiple layers of identity at play. Just like you’re a member of a family, you’re a member of member local community, you’re a member of a nation, you’re a member of a race. Like all of these things are important and have to be balanced.

 

The point of reducing it to selfishness, I mean, it’s just that only makes sense in your abstract theoretical model. It doesn’t actually make sense in the concrete humanity of what we’re discussing. Patriotism is not selfish. Patriotism is a love of the other, of the direct other of your blood!

 

Greg Johnson: Yeah. I do think it’s possible for there to be non-selfish relationships of amity and mutual respect between different peoples. And they’re.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course that’s possible, but it’s still like, for example, Australia now has an alliance with the Japanese.

 

Greg Johnson: Yeah.

 

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Joel Davis: Now there was one point in which we were massacring each other, in the Second World War and they were a great threat to us.

 

But now Australia and Japan, because of the strategic circumstances surrounding the rapid rise of Chinese military and economic power, well now we have common cause and we have very strong military agreements. Both of our militaries have permission to operate in each other’s sovereign territories, which is agreement that I think both countries only have with the United States and maybe we have similar agreements maybe with the British actually as well. But it’s a pretty like rare agreement for either country to have with another country.

 

So we have very close military relationship now. And I admire Japanese culture. I think Japanese culture has a lot of very compelling things both historically and contemporarily and I think the Japanese people are very respectable people and I’m happy to be allied, and I think it’s a good thing for both countries for us to have an alliance.

 

But at the end of the day, if circumstances were different like in the Second World War where Japanese interests and Australian interests are diametrically opposed, then I am totally fine with killing Japanese people. Right. Because that’s actually what’s good for Australians. Those two things can both be true.

 

So it isn’t about that I respect their universal right to self-determination. I don’t! I don’t give a shit about this universal concept of self-determination! I care about the particularity of how is my region going to be organised and how can I secure a future for my people. If that means respecting the Japanese nation as our ally, then I respect the Japanese nation as our ally. I would also like it if the Chinese state was divided into like 10 states, because that would be fantastic for Australia because then it would completely weaken them and they could all be turned against each other and massacre each other. That would be in my interest as well.

 

So I don’t give a shit about the Chinese right to national self-determination because that right actually is very scary, if it’s practiced! And that’s, I think that’s a totally reasonable worldview. I care about my people more than I care about Chinese people or I care about Japanese people. So it’s all relative.

 

Greg Johnson: Well, I think that’s completely reasonable because there is this, but that’s a universal fact as well, namely that people have a love of their own and given that you have the greatest interest in your own people, it makes sense for you to take care of your own people first. But you also recognise that that’s true of everybody else on the planet. And again, you can posit an international order that respects that fact, …

 

Joel Davis: And I don’t support Aboriginal self-determination. There are people! Because that directly conflicts with my, the sovereignty of my people over this continent.

 

So I don’t actually respect the universal right to self-determination! That’s the thing. I will respect particular claims to self-determination where it makes sense, but I do not support an abstract universal. The abstract universal doesn’t actually exist! It isn’t based on anything. You’re proposing that we negotiate one into existence on the basis of our shared individual national interests. And I’m providing all these counter examples where, well, the universal often isn’t in my individual national interest.

 

Greg Johnson: We can raise the question like this. You can say, okay, let’s say that, let’s use this example. Let’s talk about property rights within Australia. You have private property rights. Now you could go through life negotiating and calculating all the whole time and saying:

 

“Well, you know, is respecting this person’s property rights in my interests in this particular moment?”

 

And oftentimes it might not be, but you might still recognise that as a general rule, having a system of private property in place benefits you as much as it benefits other people. And therefore you want to, you’re not going to go through life thinking:

 

“Can I steal this pen and get away with it?”

 

You sort of get beyond that because you recognise that you’ve got a general interest in civilised rules like respecting other people’s property. And you can go on to you broaden that out. Any kind of general civilised rules. You might be able to benefit yourself by violating these rules in particular circumstances. But in a broader sense you probably benefit from just having these rules.

 

Joel Davis: As a nationalist, I support seizing the property of foreign nationals. I support seizing the property of racial aliens. I support a taxation system that seizes a significant portion of everyone’s property in order to make arrangements for national defense. And the national interest in various other ways. And so I don’t actually respect the universal right to property. I respect the limited right to property.

 

Greg Johnson: It’s an analogy. Okay, I’m not saying, …

 

Joel Davis: That’s the same as what I’m saying on the international basis. I respect in a limited sense, the national self-determination of various other peoples, but I do not support it in an absolute sense.

 

Greg Johnson: Would you be safer in a world where people treated it as an absolute or treated it as something that they renegotiated in every particular circumstance.

 

Joel Davis: We’re never going to live in a world where people treat it as an absolute because it’s fundamentally incongruent with the human condition and with the political as such! The political is fundamentally a question of:

 

“What are you willing to fight for. On what basis can the state legitimate war? On what basis can the state legitimate putting people in prison? On what basis can the state legitimate organise men with guns, pointing them in people’s faces and potentially shooting?”

 

That’s what politics is about.

 

And so there is not going to be a world in which we all put down our guns and sit down and rationally negotiate some peaceful set of agreements. Now with our guns pointed in mutual directions, we can sit down and negotiate alliances or negotiate agreements to prevent us from engaging in mutually destructive conflicts. So we can have a limited negotiation, but we’re never going to have an absolute negotiation. So it’s not only like frivolous question that has no basis in historical or human reality!

 

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Greg Johnson: I don’t think it’s baseless, because the world has been working in one way or another for hundreds of years to create institutions that allow different states to come together and mediate conflicts and avoid conflicts.

 

Joel Davis: But that is the world underneath the domination of the United States of America. This idea of liberal nationalism has only actually been successfully implanted, implemented underneath American global power where the American led international order has been organised around these institutions. But without the American guarantee of power, sovereignty, etc, what the American Navy guaranteeing global trade, American participation in all these international institutions, they would crumble! They would no longer function! And insofar as states have become powerful enough to challenge the American led international order, they challenge these institutions and they’re, and at the same time America itself has destroyed the legitimacy of these institutions by also violating its dictates where it saw fit, for example, in the invasion of Iran.

 

Greg Johnson: Absolutely! Absolutely!

 

Joel Davis: So these institutions are fundamentally, as I said, I use the phrase “bullshit edifice”! It’s a very reasonable assessment. It’s a very reasonable assessment because what it actually is a form of American imperialism. And that’s all it is, basically.

 

But then with a very amicable negotiation, it’s a very good propaganda. It’s a very good way of bringing your junior partners in the empire in and giving them representation and giving them a voice and so on, which is a prudent way to run an empire. But what it isn’t, is what you’re describing it isn’t actually a respect for the abstract universal of self-determination because that same American empire has been utterly destroying in concrete terms our capacity as Western states to have self-determination by literally genociding our race and creating state sponsored programs to destroy our national self consciousness!

 

So according to the abstract universal, well we’re all in all these international organisations that respect Australian sovereignty or French sovereignty or German sovereignty or Italian sovereignty or whatever. But in concrete terms there’s a series of international institutions and organisations and the perpetuation of an international order that destroys the capacity of our nations to have a genuine seat at the table because we can’t even be self conscious. We can’t even assert our national interest within our own political process!

 

So we have a bunch of traitors that will go and sit at these international meetings and represent us. Well, isn’t that fucking fantastic? I feel:

 

“Oh my national self-determination is so respected when they send some communist traitor like Anthony Albanese to go sit at the UN and go and sit down with the Indian Prime Minister and negotiate how they’re going to bring more Indian immigrants into Australia so I can be genocided more quickly!”

 

That’s fantastic!

 

Greg Johnson: Well I was, last year I gave a talk at the Institute for Historical Review in Southern California and I gave this analogy that I’ve used for years about how institutions fail, how diversity hollows out institutions. And I talked about the fire department. It was just an arbitrary thing. I said imagine the fire department decides to go woke and diversify and you know, it’s all fine, it’s all well and good if you lower standards and you spend more time worrying about the gender and racial mix of the people on the department, so forth. It’s great, it’s great for parades, it’s great for propaganda videos. But what if there’s an actual fire?

 

And then as if on cue, [chuckling] right? As if God wanted to prove my point, Los Angeles bur burned down! And we found that part of the reasons why the fire department was so ineffectual was it was being run by a lesbian and it was full of lesbians and they were all doing TikTok videos showing off their diversity, but they weren’t paying attention to what was necessary to actually put out fires. And you can just say that this is an institution that’s been rotted out by a crazed idea. Right?

 

And this is the way I think we have to understand what’s happened with NATO and the EU, and things like that. The purpose of the fire department is to fight fires and the purpose of NATO is to defend its member states. And the purpose of the EU is to pursue conflict resolution and greater prosperity and mutual understanding and respect in Europe, blah, blah, blah. And these institutions unfortunately have been become infected with these insane ideas, this insane woke ideology.

 

But we have to understand that there’s a distinction between the institutions and its purposes and the bizarre destructive goals that they have been wrenched around to by these ideologues.

 

Joel Davis: They’re not just “bizarre”, Greg. They’re not just like this random appendage of ideas that spontaneously emerged within these institutions and just made them retarded! What these ideas are in concrete and historical terms is a social engineering project to actively destroy the national identities of the constituent states that make up this liberal international order. Because of the recognition that nationalism is an idea which contradicts this liberal international order and its fundamental premises itself, embodied in National Socialist Germany. So, but if you understand it historically and dialectically, then that is the case.

 

Like if you look at the motivations of these “woke” academics, so to speak, if you look at the motivations that they explicitly state themselves, particularly in that 1950s, 1960s period where these ideas are being formulated and they’re being actively supported and so on, their concrete motivation is directed specifically at the Third Reich and its conditions. And there was a mutation in Left-wing ideology around the recognition that:

 

“Well, when the White working class is empowered, they didn’t actually support socialism, they supported fascism and National Socialism. And so the Left needs to be reconstituted around a different set of clients as opposed to the working class.”

 

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Greg Johnson: Absolutely, yeah.

 

Joel Davis: And so all of, all of these things are fundamentally relevant. And so the rehabilitation of the nationalist idea as something which can stand necessarily has to stand against the Liberal international order. The rehabilitation of a nation which asserts itself in its particularity that doesn’t need to justify itself within these, the shackles of these moral universalisms that you’re so partial to is fundamentally tied to the historical experience of the National Socialist regime insofar as it existed.

 

Now that doesn’t mean that every single illiberal nationalist is exactly the same as a National Socialist. But what it does mean is that nationalism has been fundamentally cucked and morally outmoded from our political process. It can’t represent itself correctly, it can’t assert itself, and in fact is being actively attacked pre-emptively and purposefully to make it harder and harder and harder for any for a nationalist movement to ever exist, that it has any concrete chances of success in any of our respective democracies. In order to preserve this liberal international order where no nation starts thinking about its own interests too hard and starts asserting them too directly and brings down this whole bullshit edifice as I called it, and starts challenging the American led liberal international order.

 

So this is all interconnected! It’s not just like oh, we had this great idea of liberal internationalism back in the 19th century and it went all wrong with wokeness. We could just get back to it. It’s completely non-dialectical, it’s completely ahistorical to think like that!

 

And it’s also just patently ridiculous when you think about how discourse actually works in the contemporary situation. That’s why it works the way that it does. That’s why whenever you start advocating for anything that sounds like White nationalism or ethno-nationalism in any White country, particularly in Western Europe or the English speaking world, immediately you start getting called the Nazi and all of these discussions around National Socialism start popping back up because it is all fundamentally tied. But there still needs to be a level of rehabilitation where we say:

 

“Okay, but the Germans asserting their national interest wasn’t some unique historical evil.”

 

In fact it actually makes sense why they would react against liberalism, why they would react against Marxism, why they would react against jewish subversion in the way that they did, why they would find a necessity to take on the Soviet Union and the Anglo-American world order to try and assert a different idea for Europe and a different political order for Europe. All of this actually makes sense! And is actually things that we can sympathize with and you should sympathize with, particularly in retrospect after seeing what has happened after their defeat, if you actually care about the European race and its destiny.

 

Greg Johnson: My position still boils down to this. I think that National Socialism was the wrong kind of nationalism! It was the bad kind of nationalism in the sense that it was imperialistic, that it was aggrandizing itself at the expense of other primarily White European nations.

 

And basically I think that what nationalists need to do, and I’m going to put this in an intentionally provocative way, is that we need to solemnly swear that we’re not going to do that kind of shit again!

 

Joel Davis: I diametrically oppose you. I think it was the good kind of nationalism precisely because it didn’t cuck itself to these universalist moral limits that you want to impose upon nationalism, and actually took on a form that was actually capable of asserting itself in a totalizing way against the enemies of nationalism, which were foreign and domestic. And that in order for us to free ourselves as a race of all of these forces, whether it be the Leftists, whether it be jews, whether it be what have you, structures of international finance, capitalist elites that are diametrically opposed to nationalist goals, all the rest of it. We need to take on a similarly uncompromising ideological project that seeks to seize state power and then use state power to utterly destroy and eradicate them from our lands and push them back. Create an international order in which they fear us too much to attack us.

 

That is ultimately the only way in which we can genuinely have self-determination as a race is to become powerful enough to do that, to actually defeat our enemies! And actually be sovereign over our own territories. And that’s what those are the principles in National Socialism, not necessarily the, … Now German Chauvinism I, from the perspective of culture, I do think the Germans had the greatest culture of any nation in Europe. They are the cultural and spiritual Guardians of the European race, particularly in the modern world. You could make historical arguments as well, but particularly in the modern world because okay, you want to cry about Poland. Where’s Poland’s Beethoven? Where’s Poland’s Wagner? Where’s Poland’s Hegel? Where’s Poland’s Nietzsche? Where’s Poland’s Heidegger? Where’s, … The list goes on. The Germans and their contribution is exceptional without equal in the modern world.

 

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And also it is antagonistic directly to the ideas of which have destroyed Europe. The Germans were the great power in Europe that actively, on a cultural and political basis provided the most resistance to the development of this hellscape that is what has become of modernity.

 

So the Germans should be Chauvinistic to a very large extent. They should see themselves as superior because they actually are on a cultural basis. But I don’t necessarily mean that doesn’t necessarily mean they should be genociding the other European peoples. It doesn’t mean though that the other European people should be looking to German culture for leadership as opposed to looking to Anglo-American culture for leadership, which has been a total disaster! Which is what has actually happened due to our imposition. And what that means is jewish cultural subversion and leadership to a very large extent because we’re infected with this.

 

So that’s what has actually become of Europe’s destiny, which has been a total disaster! So I think Germanophilia is actually necessary for the White race because the Germans did provide, in their political thought, in their philosophical thought, in the development of their particular nationalist movement, the most spiritually powerful refutation of all of these forces. And then they then created, in a political form, the most politically powerful opposition to all of these forces.

 

And so, of course we should take inspiration from it. Of course we should defend it. Absolutely!

 

Greg Johnson: And yet they were defeated by liberal internationalism. Is there any lesson in there?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, they were defeated by an ideology that is genociding our race. So you could say:

 

“Hey, this ideology that is genociding our race won against an ideology that was trying to defend our race. So maybe we should side with the ideology that genocides our race!”

 

No! That’s not the lesson to be taken away.

 

Greg Johnson: Okay, well, I mean, we’ve almost run out of time, so I don’t want to go, … I’m envisioning a huge digression here, which I don’t want to get into. Because I don’t want to digress from history, from philosophy into history again, because I do think that that’s the for me, I wouldn’t say that I wasted my time reading David Irving, but it was a digression from philosophy into history. And to the extent that I learnt anything from it, my feeling is that the rest of the world has a justified suspicion of people who say:

 

“I want nationalism, like Germany between the wars.”

 

Joel Davis: I have a justified suspicion that of anyone who claims to be for our race, but proposes that we frame our nationalism within the ideological and philosophical framework that is precisely antagonistic to nationalism, which is what liberal variants of nationalism are.

 

Greg Johnson: I just don’t think that they are necessarily antagonistic to nationalism properly understood. I think it’s possible for there to be distinct nations that are proud of their identities and wish to pursue their own destinies and that do so without being bad global citizens. And that’s the fear that is constantly being evoked whenever nationalism comes up.

 

And of course, in part, it’s being evoked in bad faith, but it finds purchase in people because they think:

 

“Well, yes, maybe there’s a better way of doing this.”

 

And this is why I do think that I think we should try and get beyond interwar and let’s just not even say National Socialism, but interwar nationalisms, because I think we need a new Right. And that we need to understand that it’s possible to advocate for a plurality of different nations.

 

Joel Davis: We can’t have a totally free discussion about what form that can take in the contemporary world unless National Socialism is at the very least rehabilitated enough to be relativised and for its ideas to be seen as a series of options on the table that should be considered and debated, as opposed to it being like before we even discuss. Start the discussion the premise is that it’s immediately beyond the pale.

 

Greg Johnson: Well, I would agree with that.

 

But I do think that if we had that discussion, and maybe we’ll continue this discussion, because I’d like to bring you around to my thinking, which is to basically say:

 

“We need to step over this.”

 

We need to relativise it. We need to understand it in its context. We can even appreciate it as long as it remains dead. But that we have to create something new for the world situation that we’re in today. And it’s not just because of National Socialism, but they always bring it up.

 

But you know, even if none of the unpleasantness of World War II had happened. Let’s say there was only one World War, you would still have globalists with their pious lectures about the evils of nationalism that led to the First World War. I think it’s bunk, but we have to respond to them.

 

Joel Davis: But the moral weight of these pious lectures is only something that has been able to be asserted through military victory. If the Germans were successful in a military sense in the Second World War, and they were obviously successful at convincing Germans and convincing also substantial portion of other European nations to side with their metaphysical war is what I would describe the Second World War as fundamentally, of the particular against the universal. They did win the argument with a lot of people in the European continent. It wasn’t like they didn’t have a compelling position that was just refuted because it was inherently objectionable. They did have a compelling point of view. They did have an inspirational point of view. Incredibly inspirational point of view. What political leader had a more inspirational point of view than Adolf Hitler? None! He’s the most inspirational politician ever! Right.

 

So they had a very compelling idea. And the reason why that idea is now marginalised is not because it wasn’t compelling. It’s not because it doesn’t carry weight. It’s been marginalised through a totalizing suppression by the State, through mass indoctrination imposed through a military victory of a hostile foreign power, multiple hostile foreign powers. Powers which are fundamentally rooted in evil ideas that we wholeheartedly must refute in defense of our race and in defense of nationalism as an idea! So that you’re not really contending with properly. You know, you’re not really actually acknowledging that reality, which is, I think, impossible to avoid.

 

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Greg Johnson: I’m not sure of your point, because I don’t think it’s true. I think the main stigmatisation of nationalism is based on war! It’s based on unnecessary suffering caused by one nation basically trying to, …

 

Joel Davis: You can describe the Second World War in just as plausible way because you can’t tell me that the Allied narrative on World War II is 100% historically accurate. In fact, they make it illegal in a lot of Europe to even debate the Second World War openly.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Greg Johnson: So one side of the argument is entirely suppressed, even in countries like ours. Well, I mean you don’t live in America anymore, but in countries like ours, like in the English speaking world, it is still legal to debate the Holocaust in theory, but in practice, any actual historian who tries to do it they’re not going to be able to work at a university. They’re not even going to be able to get their books published by any kind of mainstream publisher. They’re totally marginalised from mainstream discourse.

 

So that’s not a reasonable:

 

“We’ve sat down and we’ve had a reasonable and rational accounting of the Second World War and of early 20th century European ideologies. And we’ve come together as a society in a spirit of rational discussion and free thinking. And we’ve come to this conclusion.”

 

That’s laughable as a premise! In an actually open discourse where both sides can present themselves the National Socialist sympathetic or fascist sympathetic view of the Second World War, which portrays it as a result of the encroachments of Anglo-American universalism, of the Soviet Union and so on, the revision, the so-called revisionist narrative would be compelling to a very large amount of people.

 

In fact, insofar as it is being able to be to kind of poke its head up on the Internet, it is actually showing a lot of organic popularity right now!

 

So you’re kind of presenting it as if the ideas on your side are just like so incontrovertible and they’re just so compelling and the ideas on my side are just so ridiculous and so morally objectionable that no one would ever consider them!

 

Greg Johnson: Oh no! I would never present things in that way. Not at all! You misunderstand me. What is the root of liberalism? Ultimately, the root of liberalism as an ideology is dealing with the Thirty Years War, and other religious wars in Europe after the Reformation. That’s what drives it! There’s an essay by Judas Schlar called The Liberalism of Fear.

 

And I think liberalism in many ways is driven by fear, fear of insane violence! And I think the Liberal international order is driven by fear of insane violence. Like the First World War, like the Second World War, and the fear of nationalism. Nationalism is scapegoated.

 

And of course, it wasn’t just nationalism that was at the root of these wars. It takes a world to have a World War. And not all the parties were fighting for national self-determination. Obviously Stalin wasn’t doing that. But that aside, people want an alternative to a Third World War, another world at war. And the rehabilitation of interwar fascisms is going to be very difficult, there’s an uphill battle. And it’s not just the battle that’s been set in place since the Second World War. It’s an uphill battle against problems that people have been pushing back against since the Reformation.

 

Joel Davis: But also, you also have the other side of that coin, which is that. Well, yes, like often major conflicts can be quite shocking to the communities involved in them and they can retreat into a more pacifistic set of doctrines for a period of time.

 

But then there always comes a point as well in history where a particular paradigm becomes so intolerable and a different idea in opposition to it becomes so compelling that eventually you get another major conflict. And that’s part of the human condition.

 

And right now our race is being genocided! Right?

 

So this is existential. This isn’t just a battle of ideological preference or something on the basis of these values or those values. This is a fundamentally existential question. Are we going to continue to exist as a race or not? And that is in a very precarious position. And the entire establishment of the Liberal international order is basically in an agreement that. Yeah, that this is either unimportant or that they actively support it. Right. In most cases.

 

So under those conditions, an ideology that is violent or that has violent potential is actually alluring. An ideology which limits itself purely to moralizing and rational discourse and so on lacks appeal because we do not have a rational and sympathetic interlocutor with whom we’re negotiating our survival. Here we have an existential enemy. And an existential enemy can only be confronted through force, through active resistance.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, yes and no.

 

Greg Johnson: That is why my ideaactually has incredible relevance to the contemporary situation, because I do not believe that we’re going to negotiate our survival under this order. I think we’re going to need to assert it.

 

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Greg Johnson: I disagree with you on this because what we have is we’ve got an existential enemy that’s a rather small party, a rather small number of people spread around the world in key positions. But these people depend upon a large number of other people who are basically just goofy liberals. And these goofy liberals can be persuaded. Especially because even from their point of view, there’s something ridiculously unjust about, say, the idea that:

 

“It’s okay for China to be for the Chinese, and Africa for the Africans, but White countries are for everyone.”

 

There are things about this ideology that’s promoting and greasing the way towards White genocide. They’re just flagrantly immoral by liberal universal standards!

 

And frankly, what we have to do to beat the enemy, which is an existential enemy and is not going to be persuaded, but to beat them, we have to start reducing the number of people who are on their side! People who take their phone calls and take their money and make this shit happen! We have to reduce the number of people on their side. And the way we can do that most easily is not playing into the stereotypes of the 1930s, but by using patient arguments that appeal to moral universalism, ideas of fairness and things like that. Because there’s nothing unfair about nationalism for all people.

 

Joel Davis: What you’re now appealing to is, first of all, a quantitative rather than qualitative argument. You’re saying:

 

“Well, if we remove the moral barriers to entry for the largest number of people, this is going to ultimately be what best serves the nationalist movement.”

 

I believe in quality over quantity. I believe that what is actually necessary is to cultivate a spirit of radicalism and of sacrifice.

 

Because the reality is in politics, there is a Pareto distribution of political influence. A very small amount of people have pretty much all the influence.

 

Joel Davis: Absolutely.

 

Greg Johnson: And most people are not that politically active at all! They maybe vote once every four years, if that. And they don’t really have a very well developed political worldview. Only a very small minority of the population is politically engaged enough to even have an ideological worldview, and is engaged enough to be participating in the political process in a more direct way.

 

And those people fundamentally set the paradigm. So going for broad spectrum mass appeal with people who are largely indifferent towards politics is not going to be that successful. We already have the opinion polls, right? In basically every White country. Nationalist political policies are more popular than their alternatives on basically every metric. What actually will create political power is a committed group of radicals who are willing to devote their life, their resources, their time, their efforts to struggle for political victory. An ideology, …

 

Greg Johnson: I absolutely agree with that.

 

Joel Davis: Inspiring those people than an ideology like mine. An ideology like yours, the spirit of compromise, the spirit of kind of reducing oneself to achieve mass appeal is going to actually turn off those who seek after ideological coherence, those who seek after purity of thought, those who seek after purity of principle.

 

And also your worldview is fundamentally already conceding defeat in many respects to the enemy. It is fundamentally lacking in confidence in our own people’s innate capacity to assert our collective will.

 

Greg Johnson: I absolutely have enormous and reasonable doubts about that! Until they are given, … I mean, people. This is a very cynical thing. People are only as good or bad as they are, … You know, basically, they’re as good as they’re permitted to be, or they’re as bad as they’re permitted to be. What permits them? Well, ultimately it’s going to be their consciences.

 

But there’s another thing about the sort of political process as I understand it, that needs to be brought in here. I do think that most people are politically passive. I do think that our enemies are highly, politically, active. But they exist in tiny numbers. But around them is a group of people who are more politically engaged because they’re cogs in the machine. And it’s those people. And that would include, you know, educated people with above average social capital, people with above average incomes. These people count more. And these people are being held in bondage basically, to the woke idiots who are running our race to ruin by certain moral principles that they hold. I think that that moral consciousness has been hacked and distorted and turned against our interests and that we can, by appealing to them, change things around. And we can’t do that by enacting 30s fascist stereotypes.

 

And there’s no way of doing that!

 

Joel Davis: Let me respond to that though, because number one, what you’re basically saying is that, yes, the issue is the moral state of our people. What I believe the solution then is to create an inspirational, romantic, idealistic notion in direct opposition to those moral values. Because frankly, the vast majority of Whites do not go along with Left-wing ideology, or Leftism gone mad, whatever it is. This ideology of White self-erasure on the basis of its internal compunction and they’re like deeply committed to it, to its values. It’s simply a product of social inertia and a fear of social exclusion and other social penalties. It’s easier to just internalise and believe the prevailing worldview to basically go along to get along. There’s only a very small minority of Whites that are actually active Leftists that really, truly and deeply and viscerally believe in these principles. And they’re obviously largely motivated by themselves being very spiritually and psychologically defective to the point of a collective self hatred which I diagnose as most fundamentally being a consequence of seeing this ideology as a way to drag down their superiors within our own race.

 

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unHerd
6 months ago
If NS didn’t matter the Jews wouldn’t be working so hard to try and stamp it out.

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HH
6 months ago(edited)
Greg Johnson : “1930’s Nationalism gives people bad global citizens concerns”. Conveniently forgets the entire globe was carved up by three liberal democracies Britain, France and the Netherlands all at the peril of a sword/gun.

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@v0lum3
6 months ago
Hitler dindu nuffin

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@W_Poe_White
6 months ago(edited)
Britain. France and the Netherlands weren’t anything even close to a democracy when they built up their empires. Nor are they really democracies today. They are liberal plutocracies, not democracies.
Plutocracy is the problem, not democracy as such.
A constitutional ethno-democracy where only members of the ethnos can possess citizenship and vote or hold office, and, furthermore, with a national socialist economic system, would work just fine.
OTOH, a one-party dictatorship is no panacea.

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@v0lum3
6 months ago
Democracy is retarded in any context. The Greeks figured this out 2500 years ago.

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HH
6 months ago(edited)
Those details you outline matter none. The fact is 90 percent of the modern world views
them as liberal democracies, the original ANTIFA, the antithesis to Natsoc, Fascism and Nationalism. So the statement stands, the swords and guns that actually took over the world were made in democracies and used by the soldiers of liberal democracies. But “ooooo Hitler, the mad man, wanted to rule the entire world”. Of course people who read CC will know this may not be entirely true but to the normal who thinks in terms of global citizen, the actual description of the type of governance does not matter.

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@W_Poe_White
6 months ago
What things are and what people call them can be very different things. You can deal with the illusion if you please. I’ll stick with the reality. Plutocracies, not democracies.
The actual point: decisions for the US, UK, Netherlands and France to go to war are NOT made democratically. They are made behind closed doors by wealthy elites and the politicians who serve them.
“Democracy” is a covering screen for authoritarian rule from the shadows by unaccountable plutocratic elites and their clients in office.

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HH
6 months ago(edited)
Again you’ve failed to understand the psyche of the masses.
1930’s to 90 percent of the public: Britain/France Netherlands = liberal democracies therefore good, and no one cares that between them they carved up the entire globe with swords and guns made in democracies.
1930’s to 90 percent of the public: Germany = Nationalist, fascist, authoritarian therefore bad, so bad global citizens.
That’s how 90 percent of the Western mind interprets that time. What you and I may understand about democracies being nothing more than an illusion does not matter. We are in a tiny minority.
Point stands, Greg Johnson overlooks that democracies have been far worse global citizens than any Nationalist one.

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@W_Poe_White
6 months ago
You’re failing to realize that public opinion has been manipulated by the plutocrats who own all the media and control education as well. The public has been massively lied to and conditioned to believe what is useful for the plutocrats – who have been increasingly led by Jews as time has unfolded.
However, some of the support for democracy is indeed authentic and this is fine so long as this democracy would be limited to members of the ethnonation, i.e. ethnodemocracy. Jews would lose their citizenship along with all non-Whites and not be able to participate.
I am not advocating a simple one-man one-vote system, but a moderately democratic system involving voting by a subset of “active citizens” who have demonstrated serious commitment to studying public affairs. Active citizens’ votes would be weighted to count as, say, 2/3rds of all votes for President and the Senate. Alternatively, only their votes might be counted in selecting the President and Senate.
The office of the President would also be strengthened by giving Presidents 12 year terms and a Constitutional authority to issue executive orders which would have the same force as laws passed by both houses of Congress.
General elections involving all citizens might be used for selecting the US House of Representatives and for selecting state legislatures and governors. Or, alternatively, weigh active citizen votes more heavily.
Furthermore, there is an absolute need for a more egalitarian and populist economic system.
Eliminating plutocracy eliminates Jewish control of the media and education since it takes away the Jewish money power necessary for monopolizing control of media and education.
Taking away citizenship from Jews and reinstating disabilities on them in combination with ending plutocracy solves the JQ. The solution is to reverse the error of Jewish emancipation while eliminating the means by which Jews rose to power in the first place – i.e. their money power.
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HH
6 months ago(edited)
Am not going to read all that given your refusal to understand you’re in an absolute minority.
It’s very simple, the Western world sees Britain, France and the Netherlands as democracies and the NSDAP as baby murdering, oven baking, brain washed psychos. One of those groups ruled the entire world between them and the other is constantly accused of being bad because they wanted to rule the entire world but didn’t.
Democracy good regardless of the millions murdered by them.
Natsoc bad.

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@W_Poe_White
6 months ago
You’re flogging a dead horse. Who’s defending liberal imperialism around here? In point of fact the Western nations were not, and are not, democracies. They were, and are, plutocracies with managed public opinion. The “Western world” is not a monolith with a unitary opinion set in stone forever. Western public opinion has been massively manipulated by its ruling liberal plutocracies monopolizing the mass media and education. Opinions are mutable. Especially when they are based on gross propagandistic manipulation and lies.
“Democracy good…Natsoc bad”
Aren’t you simply taking the opposite, dogmatic, equally Manichean, position “Natsoc good; democracy bad”?
1930s German National Socialism is not a panacea nor is democracy necessarily a problem. OTOH liberalism, understood as plutocratic class rule, is definitely bad and needs to end. But a constitutional ethnodemocracy with a national socialist economic system is very different from the so-called “liberal democracy” which has existed in the West.
This is what I am proposing: a CONSTITUTIONAL ETHNODEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC with NATIONAL SOCIALIST (anti-plutocratic) ECONOMIC SYSTEM.
I take the best features of both “liberal democracy” and national socialism while jettisoning their bad (or at least problematic) features. Liberalism/plutocracy is rejected from “liberal democracy” and the fuehrer principle (individual and one party dictatorship) and the spirit of militarism from German National Socialism.
What is wrong with this? Why must there be dictatorship? Why must there be a spirit of militarism? Why must we embrace romantic nationalism as Joel exhorts and believe in extravagant conceits of mystical White superiority (rather than merely substantive innate difference)?
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HH
6 months ago
Again not reading all that. Stopped at the first sentence. You clearly have knowledge of esoteric descriptions of different styles of governance and whether they are what they say they are but this does not matter to the masses.
Fact is to the masses : Britain, France, Netherlands all good because democracy and ANTIFA. (Actually ruled the world at sword/gun point.
:NSDAP bad because Nazi, Fascist, nationalist wanted to rule the world (but didn’t). Even the supreme leader Greg Johnson is not above this thought trap.

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@W_Poe_White
6 months ago
“Again not reading all that. Stopped at the first sentence.”
You’ve plainly closed your mind to any ideas which challenge your dogmatic beliefs. So I’ll leave you to the “based” echo chamber.

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@W_Poe_White
6 months ago
“Greg Johnson overlooks that democracies have been far worse global citizens than any Nationalist one.”
Replace the word “democracies” by the phrase “liberal pseudo-democracies” and I would agree. I’m not sure Greg would even disagree. He didn’t deny the bellicosity of Britain, France and the US. He simply (and unfairly) accused Hitler of aggression.
Hitler’s hand was forced in Poland. I’m not referring merely to the terrorist attacks on Germans living in Poland. Stalin was building up the Red Army to prepare for the takeover of all Europe (Suvorov’s The Chief Culprit and Meltiukov’s Stalin’s Lost Opportunity). If Hitler had not invaded Poland in tandem with Stalin in 1939, the Soviet onslaught in 1941 would have fallen first on Poland which would have quickly been overrun. The Red Army would then have invaded Germany on the offensive rather that being caught on its back foot as it had been by Barbarossa.

ThinRedLine
6 months ago
Greg conceded every single point of discussion yet still maintained that NS was the bad kind of Nationalism

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HH
6 months ago
Greg Johnson suffers from boomer brain combined with the usual angry liberal mindset.

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HH
6 months ago
Johnson gets emotional towards the end as his points were taken apart and reverts to “NATSOC lost though nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh”. What an emotional response.

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@hhhhwhitepill
6 months ago(edited)
What is such a point intended to even convey? The German military lost owing to a few strategic blunders and an evil (collapsing) British Empire. The latter owing to the Eternal Anglo Problem.
It’s a bit more than a “stretch” to suggest that natsoc was “defeated” in any meaningful way beyond the decidedly narrow lens of warfare. We can’t bring it back? Why not? Because it “failed?”

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HH
6 months ago(edited)
Johnson is effeminate and often exhibits female energy. It was nothing more than a chic lashing out because she’s losing an argument.

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@EverybodywakeUp
6 months ago
Defeated the greatest , people and regime in history. To then pass a empire over to the worst cucked jew, nigger loving country in history, only nigs who have patents come America ffs it’s a disgrace.

ThinRedLine
6 months ago
Germany was defeated by a far larger powers it was a simple numbers game

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PavlovPuppy
6 months ago(edited)
Why are you implying that National Socialism inherently requires Imperialism, Unfriendly Foreign Affairs, Denial of Foreign Sovereignties, Desire for War, Genocide etc?? I think your still falling for some Jewish propaganda, which is hard to believe because your clearly very intelligent. What the hell is going on here Overall I agree with Joel more than you, but you do make some good arguments. I am less might is right than Joel as I think friendly cooperation should be prioritized but there is also a requirement for power, leverage of trade/goods and military strength. However, preservation of the Race/Nation is always number one and it’s requirements can become very situational. I think there is a synthesis to be found here which would create a perfect system. Also I think National Socialist Germany was much more in line with some of your values than you and even Joel seem to think. They really were not Imperialists as much as they were cooperative with foreign states. They were certainly not genocidal, they did not want war, at all. They took the Sudenten which was theirs and was reasonably needed for living space. Other than that they temporarily occupied states for their own protection as well as a shield against communist forces for Europe as a whole. They were literally the friendliest occupations in history lol. They were welcomed with celebration, parades, literally showered with kisses and flowers at their feet in most cases especially in Eastern Europe where they were seen as liberators. Ultimately they did save Europe from becoming one big Bolshevik genocide and they deserve the credit for that. Anyways, this was very intelligent and thought provoking, you guys did a great job staying respectful, not interrupting etc. Its great to see! Be more National Socialist my friend, it is the way!! Hail Victory!
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@EverybodywakeUp
6 months ago
Yeah America. have led everyone into a jew washed state. America is the only place to worship blacks and jews then pushing it into Europe. You have Hollywood and let jews push this bullshit, Hitler said you’re a jewish cesspool and negroid dump who has nothinh in common with Europe. You basically armed isral to the teeth also never kicked them out once apart from cuddle and protect them.

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Earthling Carl
6 months ago
Easy Joel W.

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@filled_soda
6 months ago
Hail Joel, Tom, Blair and Jacob ○/

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@Six
6 months ago
we are all nationalists. so is the socialism the problem? a redundant question unless you think we can have national capitalism. i think thats the proven failure here

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ThinRedLine
6 months ago(edited)
You can’t be a Nationalist with out socialism

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@Six
6 months ago
ties a nice bow on it doesnt it…

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ThinRedLine
6 months ago
it does

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@Arilando
6 months ago
Of course you can.

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ThinRedLine
6 months ago
If you don’t care about the lesser of your people how can you call your self a Nationalist ?

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@Scythe
5 months ago
No I don’t think that’s the issue Keith and Greg have. Free market capitalism obviously isn’t compatible with any form of nationalism. As far as I can see, Keith and Greg’s problem with National Socialism is a matter of taste, optics, genuine ideological difference, and a matter of what is realistic. Though I do sympathize with where they are coming from, and can’t say I’m a proper National Socialist, I think we do need to change the way people view the Third Reich, expose the lies around ww2. As this is the founding mythology of the postwar order. Unlike Joel and many others however, I don’t think we should necessarily change peoples views
from allies good, axis bad, to allies bad, axis good. Because it’s not that simple. We should merely stick to the facts and not narratives.

odysees dumb comment system
6 months ago
Aussies are lucky to have such awesome guys. Ive been following their stuff and they just seem to get it over there. They dont have all this gay infighting. This was very civil, but usually this debate is completely destructive. After Charlottesville the whole movement shattered, and it wasnt so much the actual event, it was the infighting that followed that we never recovered from. But people are becoming less afraid to talk to us again finally, hopefully we dont fuck it all up again fighting over optics like a bunch of retards.

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Love of our People
6 months ago(edited)
Germany’s loss in WWII was without question one of the most profound tragedies and disasters in human history, perhaps THE great tragedy of human history. It was certainly negative. The United States government and the Soviet Union were two of the most evil forces ever seen on the planet (in the case of the former, it remains so).
One point I’ll give Greg, using the moral argument is a tool in our tool box that we have to employ at this point. We’re not in a position to just impose our will, far from it. Even Russia and America today use the facade of moral arguments when presenting their position to the world. Even if we grant that that’s all such arguments are, they’re still useful enough that the great powers resort to them to some extent. We should make a point of arguing our case from a moral perspective, while also working to gain as much power for our people as possible. We should leave no tool unused.

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Northern Blue
6 months ago
Joel butchered him here. Cc came across as a Liberal unfortunately. A little convoluted at times.

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The Ravens Hall
6 months ago
All of these other racial or ethnic groups if they could dominate us or any other group that is not them they would. The truth is that these other groups are fundamentally different to us with different conceptual notions of morals.
Also people misunderstand the ‘might makes right’ phrase, it is illustrates that no laws, morals or ethics actually mean anything as it is power that actually allows you maintain, protect and enforce them.
Also focusing on our own people and having our interests put above all others groups is what all the others are doing.

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ThinRedLine
6 months ago
War is a part of the human experience and there is no reasion to think that Liberalism is less violent , we had plenty of wars since WWII and the reason why we didn’t have a WWIII is because of Nuclear weapons, were it not for these weapons we would surely have had a WWIII already in the fifties or sixties

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@W_Poe_White
6 months ago
Liberalism is the ideology of the capitalist elites, especially the financial capitalist elites. Capitalist elites don’t want a free market. They want monopolies and direct managerial control. J. P. Morgan and John D. Rockefeller made explicit statements to this effect.
Liberalism tends toward imperialism whenever this seems to be a feasible option. Capitalism is inherently expansionist since without continuous growth it ceases to function. The canonical example of a liberal polity is the British Empire. You can’t build and sustain an empire without war and repression. Yes, indeed, liberalism is violent.
One shouldn’t let oneself be deceived by the ideologies that have emerged in association with liberalism such as egalitarianism, democracy and the idea of universal individual rights. They are not what they seem. The core of liberalism is plutocracy. Any ideology which contradicts plutocracy will not get far. Though the capitalist elites make Machiavellian use of such ideologies for social control, they will never allow such ideologies to actually be realized as intended by their sincere adherents. Liberalism, i.e. plutocracy, is inherently authoritarian, elitist and anti-democratic. Even the individualist element in liberalism is deceptive. It is really just a means of atomizing people so as to render them helpless to resist elite control. It is a totalizing strategy, as Michel Foucault described clearly in his lecture/essay Omnes et Singulatum and his 1977-78 lectures at the College de France, Security, Territory, Population.
There is a vanguard element within the capitalist elite which wants to take monopoly to its ultimate logical conclusion and consolidate control over all means of production and run society as if it were a single gigantic megacorporation. This, in essence, is communism, i.e. a centrally planned and directed command economy. Which is to say: The telos of capitalism is communism. Today’s name for such a society is technocracy.
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ThinRedLine
6 months ago
Hail Joel

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renunciate
6 months ago
Joel is making the rounds this week, eh?

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@whitemonkey
6 months ago
id just like to say. NATIONAL SOCIALISM FOR ALL NATIONS.

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@chambleth5
6 months ago
I think Joel makes some fair points, but it’s important to look at what he actually does in practice. He led a neo-nazi march thru a public park with his mates dressed in matching outfits which evoked brownshirts and tactical gear. Not surprisingly they got in fights with other citizens and then the police. What did other Austrailians at the park think of this? 16 of his mates were arrested. Joel himself was arrested thereafter. Joel and other NS leaders were bumped off X, probably forever. Was this the outcome of Joel’s philosophy? Was it a positive result?
It’s also important to think about who Joel is as a person. I think he’s an extremist personality type. He really doesn’t seem to have a stable personality at all. He has bounced around from one personality to another over the last 10 years; first he was 4chan shitposter Joel, then he became polisy theorycell Joel, then came tradcath Joel, now we have neo-nazi gymbro Joel. But before any of that he was an actual antifa member. He didn’t just flirt with marxism like some young people do, he was an actual member and he really wasn’t just a member he was in a leadership position. What kind of person is this? How do normal people react to people like this?
I think while Joel’s outlook is not irrational it’s coming from a certain base of personality that isn’t good. I don’t think it’s a wise to follow someone like this or to subscribe to a philosophy like his. It’s probably going to lead you into something bad and counter-productive.

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@filled_soda
6 months ago
I’ve heard him say that the Antifa thing was just a youthful blunder. Where can I read/watch more on this? I don’t mean that in a Leftist “Source?!” way. I’m genuinely curious.

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@chambleth5
6 months ago
It’s hard to say it’s a youthful blunder when he was a leader of the group. As for sources; it’s just something i’ve heard multiple times from different people that’s been confirmed so i don’t have a link or anything.

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@whitemonkey
6 months ago
who cares its just part of the journey, hitler and mussolini dabbled with communism ,so what. its all about the destination, joel found the correct place, however is just maybe a little to out there for me, still much respect to the man for sticking his neck out.

Clown World Gamer
6 months ago
If being arrested is enough to undermine legitimacy then we might as well all surrender. I don’t know what other Australians think about it, but I know you won’t be arrested because you’re not doing anything that bothers the enemy.

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@chambleth5
6 months ago
Are those 16 young men more effective or less effective after having been arrested? Bothering the enemy is, right now, like a gnat bothering an elephant.

@whitemonkey
6 months ago
you point to brownshirt likeness, whoa, antifa get a pass?
joel is a little;e= too out there for me, however makes some fine points.
as for joels journey, doesnt matter how he got there ,he got there in the end.
its been said that hitler may have been a communist very early on as was mussolini however there joirney lead them to a real truth ,that being national socialism. which every nation should aspire to.
hitler in 6 years turned the nation around like no other never forget that.

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@chambleth5
6 months ago
If a psychologically unsound person gets you to a certain place, maybe that place isn’t as psychologically sound as you think it is.

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@whitemonkey
6 months ago
unsound?thats just an opinion, joel for me has evolved to a much clearer position now, many can see that,
life is a journey of experience ,we all make mistakes. am in my 60s though i make very few mistakes through a learning process there’s always another hurdle to clear in an ever evolving world.
your entitled your opinion ,i would fight for your right to express it also, however i believe you maybe wrong.
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@Scythe
5 months ago
Joel is a smart guy, but I think you’re right on what really drives him. He’s definitely an extremist personality type. Not to say he isn’t genuine, but he has a natural proclivity for this kind of thing.

@Six
6 months ago
its odd to pretend that national socialism is bad because its german centric…..during ww2 that is. its obviously not now, it just means racist. our enemies know what it means when they call us nazis

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ThinRedLine
6 months ago(edited)
Third position(NS ) is not so much about the actual policies but about the end goals and the policies will be adapted to fit the end goals
it is kind of like the sophists debate with Aristoteles , for the Sophists the the form is more important than the morals and for aritoles the opposite

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@Maligned
6 months ago
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Joel just decimated Greg with his limp wristed ideology. How he cant see that his own limp wristed ideology that he is advocating for is the very reason why Whites are fucked in the first place. The only thing stopping Whites from rising is their own will to rise.

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Long Knife
6 months ago
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@Willhelm
6 months ago(edited)
all this “white unity” and “no more brother wars” stuff is an american concept. communists, the democrats, russia and a lot of others are white and anti-white at the same time today. the allies pretty much were antifa back in the day.
looking at ww2 from gregs white american perspective is very shortsighted especially because the allies killed tons of “muh whites” as well. this all looks like a captain hindsight mixed with pacifism. horrible. honestly america can go to hell. i dont care for every white person around the world. thats stupid.

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Based and Rempilled
6 months ago
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@hhhhwhitepill
6 months ago
“The only people who care about white collective interests are Americans. ‘No brother wars’ is a corny cliche because white men killed each other before. Also white liberals exist, therefore white collective interests are invalid. Some white people are bad- fuck those bad whites!” No offense, man…you’re really not cut out for this sort of thing.

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Mark Collett: Hello everybody, and welcome to Book Club.

 

Now, it’s been a little while since the last book club, and that’s because we had Easter Sunday, and obviously we didn’t want to be streaming on Easter Sunday because everyone’s spending time with their family, etc. And it was a nice night off, but it delayed this particular episode. But we’re finally here, and we are live tonight on Odysee, DLive, Rumble and Entropy.

 

So you can find us in all of those good places. And tonight we are reviewing The Myth of German Villainy.

 

Now, this is the second edition, so I could only find this edition available in one place, and that’s directly from Money Tree Publishing. And we have Dave Gahary from Money Tree Publishing tonight to talk about the book, because the author has sadly passed away, so he’s going to be the representative discussing the book and discussing the things that have been added to it and why it’s an important book. So he’s taking the place of the author.

 

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And I think this is a really important stream, and it’s a really good book!

 

And I’m going to throw it over to Dave in a minute because I want him to give sort of the intro. We’re still waiting on Aunt Sally. She’s having a few computer problems, so she might be with us tonight. She might not be, but her computer’s running really slow, so we’ll see if she arrives.

 

But before we get into the book, I want to say something about this.

 

Now, we’ve reviewed, or this is the 31st book we’ve reviewed on Book Club. So we’ve reviewed, you know, 30 books up until this day. And we have reviewed other books that have dealt with the realities, the truths of the Second World War. And you might be thinking to yourself:

 

“Well, Mark, we’ve had a few reviews like this. We’ve covered a few books like this. Why would I want to read this book?”

 

And I’m going to start by saying, I read this book, and there were things in this book I didn’t know.

 

Now, I’m not saying that I am the best read or the most educated when it comes to the historical facts of the First and Second World War. But there were some pretty major things that cropped up in this book that I actually hadn’t heard about. And there was things that I had heard about. And this book allowed me to build on my knowledge and my sort of historical grasp of these events. So I found the book very interesting.

 

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So if you’re coming into this thinking maybe:

 

“Well, this sounds really great, Mark. This is the kind of book I’d like to read. But what makes this book different from other books like this that you’ve reviewed in the past?”

 

I want to just get that out the way straight away that I enjoyed the book and I always knew I was going to like it. But I didn’t realise what an education it would be for someone like myself who’s been doing this, been in dissident politics for 24 years, who has had, you know, been at numerous meetings where people have talked about things such as revisionism, the Second World War, where there’s been multiple books on sale about the topics that are broached in this book, yet this book still brought new things to the table.

 

So I’m going to start by throwing it over to Dave. Dave is obviously the commander in chief over at Money Tree Publishing, and we always love having Dave on because he’s a very entertaining guy and he does his own show.

 

So basically, Dave, why don’t you plug your own show for a start and where we can find you? Tell us a bit about why the second edition was published, how you got the rights to doing the second edition, and a little bit about the author who sadly passed away. And then we’ll go around the group and we’ll give out our impressions.

 

Dave Gahary: Sure. Sure. Am I coming through loud and clear?

 

Mark Collett: As loud and as clear as a blackbird song in the morning. Absolutely perfect!

 

Dave Gahary: Lovely. We’ve got the mockingbirds down here in the Florida panhandle, and they sing throughout the day and night. So you could hear them at, you know, two, three in the morning, going wild. It’s lovely.

 

Yes, the book.

 

Now, when I was at American Free Press writing for them and the Barnes Review for about ten years, I remember hearing about the book when it first came out, and it just really struck a nerve with a lot of folks and struck a chord. And it was lauded. And I heard that. I had never read the first edition, but it was brought to my attention at a later date by Jim Rizzoli and Diane King, who, as you may be familiar with, they do the Hoaxbusters show over on our network Speak Free Radio, which you can access by going to speakfreeradio.com. And it’s a 24/7 Internet radio network.

 

And I guess it would probably make sense if it’s okay to read the quick note from the publisher that I put in there. Mark, if I could read that.

 

Mark Collett: Of course, my friend, you’ve got the floor, so please feel free to.

 

[06:02]

 

Dave Gahary: Thank you. It says:

 

“This book would not exist if not for the enthusiastic encouragement of Jim Rizzoli and Diane King, two true American patriots. Here’s the backstory after Jim heard a radio show with Benton Bradbury, and he’s the author, of course, on as a guest, Diane was able to get a hold of Ben’s contact information to set up an interview with Jim, which was done in January 2016. After the interview, Diane stayed in touch with Ben, and anytime a hurricane would sweep through the Jacksonville, Florida area, she would call to check on him. The last time she did, Ben informed her, probably in his characteristically matter of fact, no nonsense way, he had esophageal cancer and had about three months to live.”

 

“Seeking to preserve Benton Bradbury’s legacy after his unfortunate passing in 2019, and to give the book a larger audience, Jim and Diane suggested we contact Mister Bradbury’s family to speak with them about the future of the book. They were enthusiastic to keep the book in print, and this second edition, with some corrections and amplifications, is the final result.”

 

“Thank you to the heirs of this book and to Jim and Diane for entrusting us with this task to keep this most important work alive. We hope it meets with your approval.”

 

 

“And that’s it.

 

Mark Collett: Superb.

 

So how did you go about putting together the second edition, then?

 

And I think this fits very well in your library because obviously, we’ve had you on here before. We reviewed Hell Storm, and that was a, I mean, the package you put together for Hellstorm was some interesting, truly special.

 

I think it was one of the first book reviews we did with you, and that package was incredible! Because you guys really, really went out there with not only the fantastic printed edition, but also with the audiobooks and the documentary as well. I think this fits in well with the rest of your library.

 

Dave Gahary: Yes, absolutely! And we’re not going to be adding too many more parts to the library, for the simple reason that we just wanted to focus on what we consider to be the best examples of the particular topics that are being addressed.

 

So this book took, as most books take, a long time to copy edit. And Ben was a former US Navy pilot. He had served in the military for, I think about 30 years. It’s in the actual, About the Author.

 

Let me just quickly get that. Yeah. So he served from 55 to 77. Yeah, 32 years. I’m sorry, I can’t even add! 22 years in the US Navy. And he was born in 1937.

 

Of course, as I said, he passed in 2019.

 

So Ben wasn’t an historian. He was somebody who had visited Germany and was perturbed about what he witnessed up close and personal with the beautiful German people and what the poisonous media was spewing about the beautiful German people and their wonderful history.

 

And so that’s what spurred him on to write a book about this.

 

[10:13]

 

And as you mentioned in the intro, sadly, he has passed. And I, of course, am quite saddened by that because I know we would have hit it off, both being navy guys and both having an interest in this topic. So Ben, again, I wish I would have known the actual steps he went through, but he went through a process of reading a lot of books, as you could see in the bibliography. And he put together a manuscript and self published the book. And it was through another company that self published it wasn’t like money tree or even more traditional publishers. It was a publisher that said:

 

“Well, just give us your manuscript, and we’ll just make it into a book.”

 

So when I dig into a manuscript, or a book, I dig in like a copy editor and a proofreader. So I look at not just every page or every paragraph, every sentence or every word, but every character. And it takes quite a bit of time. Some would say that “analysis is paralysis”, but I can’t do it any other way. Just like if I’m reading a book, I always have a highlighter with me because I instinctively highlight stuff that I’m interested in or highlight errors. And then later, many times contact the author or the publisher and let them know, which they’re very much appreciative of.

 

So I was born with this attention to detail, and I put that to work in Ben’s book, The Myth of German Villainy, the first edition.

 

I think, because, you know, Ben wasn’t trained as an historian, or a writer there were some things that slipped through, some facts that weren’t facts, some quotes that were spurious, some material that needed, as I mentioned earlier, some amplification.

 

And so I went through the entire manuscript along those lines. And the structure of what he wrote is there. That’s not changed. But the errors, maybe the wrong dates or the wrong names, the wrong facts, they’ve all been removed. And some parts of the book that I felt needed to be expanded upon were expanded upon. And photographs and images were added. Whereas the first edition had just black and white photos, some of them not very clear. This edition has a lot of colour photos, and when the actual photo itself or image itself was not in colour, black and white.

 

Amazingly, and of course, I never would have thought it would have turned out this way. But the first edition and the second edition are almost the exact same number of pages! And for all the work that was done on it, that was surprising to me when I discovered that at the end.

 

But this has 171 images. So we offer, let me see if that’s offered in this book. It is.

 

So this book is offered in black and white and colour. And the black and white version has 171 black and white images. And the colour version, out of those 171 images, 123 are black and white, and 48 are a colour.

 

[14:21]

 

So I was very happy with how it turned out. It’s a project like this that goes on for three years. It’s kind of like birthing something, and you really don’t know until the end, at least I don’t, how it’s going to turn out. But I was very happy with the way that it turned out. And I’ve heard from a lot of folks stuff similar to what you said, Mark, that they knew a lot about this topic, but they learnt a lot from reading the book.

 

Mark Collett: Fantastic! Thank you, my friend.

 

Well, let’s go around the group.

 

We’ll start with you, Natty. Obviously, you’ve been here with the book club since the very beginning. What did you think of this book? Did you enjoy it? Give a bit of an overview, please.

 

Natty: Well, like you, in fact, I was looking at Hellstorm as you were giving your preface to the stream here. And this is a topic we do seem to cover a lot, but it’s evergreen, and there’s so much that feeds into us, and there’s a lot of stuff that’s going on in the world at the moment that makes this relevant.

 

And I would argue that World War One and then the lead into World War Two and everything that’s happened since the Second World War is one of the most pivotal moments in the civilisation of Europe and probably the world. And I know it’s easy to say that given that we’re living in a time that is controlled and has echoes of the decisions made then and the events that happen then, because we’re living through it now, but it really does feel monumental.

 

And the Second World War and the lead up to it and the aftermath of it, the immediate aftermath of it, without understanding it, you simply cannot have any logical or coherent narrative of the way the world is today. So revisiting this period in history, to me, is always interesting. And I echo what you said, and I’ve got it in my notes. There’s things in here that I didn’t know. And I’m less well read on this subject than you, to be honest, Mark.

 

But even then, it was a pleasure. Might be the wrong word, but it was a pleasure to read just for that simple reason.

 

Before we get into the heavy stuff, and I know we do this a lot on book club, and we’ve been chastised for it before, but the cover is just so fantastic! Because, …

 

[17:02]

 

Mark Collett: You know what, mate? I’m going to cut across you there. Not only is the cover fantastic, but it has loads of pictures in. And this book, it really commands your attention.

 

And I’m not saying that everything should be a picture book, but that cover made me want to read it. And what kept me going through a lot of it was when I was seeing actual illustrative proof of everything that the book was stating.

 

Natty: Yes, it makes it a much easier read.

 

And in fact, the cover which you can see in the thumbnail to the video, has this kind of long nosed, like, big chinned, be-monicled Nazi officer on it, right? And he’s standing in front of the famous train tracks that lead to Auschwitz.

 

And recently me and my fiance have taken, well, not her so much, me have taken great pleasure in watching films about the Nazis in the Second World War. You know, most of its trash. Some of its slightly more high class, like The Boy in the Striped Pajamas. Schindler’s List is obviously, is the most famous one, but there are tropes [chuckling] that come up in these films over and over again! And you could drink yourself silly playing drinking games, you know, jews raking the sand, barking dogs, Nazi officers screaming about:

 

“Show me your papers!”

 

You know, it’s the same thing in every film!

 

And as soon as I saw this, the cover for the book and this kind of be-monicled demonic old Nazi officer, I was like:

 

“Yeah, it’s very fitting.”

 

So I know there’s heavy stuff in here, but I thought I’d make a comment on that because I think it’s definitely relevant. And like you said, the pictures go along with everything that’s written here. Makes it very easy to get through.

 

Mark Collett: It certainly does.

 

Well, now we’re going to introduce Bill. Sadly tonight it’s Bill’s last Book Club. I thought I’d mention this now. We were going to mention at the end, but now’s as good a time as any. Bill is basically simply just doesn’t have time to do this anymore. And we’ve really enjoyed Bill’s input, and if everyone would like to say a big thank you to him, that would be wonderful!

 

But, Bill, this is your last Book Club. But what a Book Club to go out on, my friend. First, I’d like to thank you for all your hard work, and it has been a pleasure working with you over the years on this particular project. But what did you think of this book? And do you want to give a bit of an overview like Natty did?

 

[19:27]

 

Bill Atheling: Well, thank you, Mark, for your kind words. Yes, this book, when I read through it the last few weeks, it reminded me of my own period going through the so-called “red pill”, because mine feel like I come from – my sins – from an academic background and teaching. And I began close on to 20 years ago, starting to look at and ask questions effectively, and I became interested in different aspects of this particular period. I’d really like to echo what Natty, yourself said, Mark.

 

That period in time is the crux upon which the hammer of the future was hammered out. So it’s absolutely important! And I think for anybody who’s listening who’s not particularly interested or enamored with historical introspection, well, this is a good place to start to actually wake you up a little bit about it.

 

The thing about this period, of course, is that it’s the time when truth really died! And a complete revision, if you want to use that word, is made of historical facts and occurrences. What this book does, of course, is it lays it out in a very clear, concise, readable, accessible way. It’s not written in highfalutin academic style. It’s not written in a low brow style. It’s written in a way that you can read it, you can enjoy it, and you can engage with it presents a lot of facts, a lot of facts which have been erased or are pushed under the carpet.

 

So, yeah, it’s a very impressive piece of work. I agree about the aesthetics of it. The cover is very nice. I love the fact there were photographs and illustrations throughout, backing up everything that was being discussed as well. Very impressive piece of work! Yeah, that’s my initial summary, at least.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you, Bill. We’ve got Sally in tonight. I don’t know whether Sally can hear us. She’s been having computer problems. This will definitely be sorted for next time because she’s got a new computer, but she haven’t had time to set it up. So, Sally, if you can hear us, obviously, if you can’t, we’ll just continue on without you.

 

But if you can hear us, give us a brief overview of what you thought of the book.

 

Aunt Sally: Well, I can hear you, so please just say yes or no.

 

Mark Collett: We can hear you now. But yeah.

 

Aunt Sally: Can you hear me?

 

Mark Collett: Just about, yeah. There’s a little bit of a delay, I think.

 

Aunt Sally: Just quickly, in case I have to leave. Because of [words unclear] this is one of those books that’s up there with the greats that we’ve had. It’s a book I wish I’d had in my childhood in the sixties, because much of what I was being told didn’t make sense. It just didn’t make sense even to a child. You just didn’t ask. You didn’t ask because of everyone was war weary. My parents were war weary, even though my mum was a child during the war, but my dad just about got [words unclear]. Yeah, it’s one of the great books. I read it again with my mouth wide open at some of the things I didn’t [word unclear]. It’s a fantastic book and every boomer should read it, really. They should read it. Yeah, that’s it for now.

 

[23:22]

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you, Sally. I think it’s a really, really good book.

 

And one thing I want to say about this, and this is where I’m going to kick things off, I think this is important when you see, and I do like the cover I do like the cover. I think the cover is a good cover and we have bashed bad covers. But the cover gives kind of this misconception about the book, that it’s all going to be based around World War Two.

 

Now, the first thing I want to say about this book is its not all about World War Two. This actually goes into a huge amount of detail about other topics, about World War One and sort of the origins of these anti-German myths. And some of the information within it, as I said, is stuff that I didn’t actually know.

 

And I’ll read something from the beginning of chapter three, because this really jumped out to me. I’ve actually got the book here in my hands and I’m just flying through this.

 

So this isn’t all just about National Socialist Germany. It isn’t all about the Second World War. It isn’t just sort of a rehashing of Germans did bad things and rounded up jews. There’s a lot of things here that I didn’t know and that give a greater context. Because obviously I know quite a bit about the Second World War. I know a little bit about the First World War, but I didn’t know this. And I’m reading directly from the book, and I quote:

 

“On December 12, 1916, two and a half years into the war, Germany made a peace offer to the Allies to end the war on a status quo ante basis. That is, no one wins and no one loses, no one pays reparations. Everyone just stops fighting and goes back home.”

 

“Germany had never wanted war in the first place. By that time, in the course of the war, Germany seemed on the verge of victory. Her submarine force had effectively stopped the supply convoys coming from America to Britain, creating critical shortages of all war material in Britain. France had already lost some 600,000 men in the battles of Verdun and the Somme, and the French soldiers were beginning to mutiny. The Italian army had collapsed completely, and Russian soldiers were deserting in droves and returning home. Germany appeared to be winning on both fronts, but the slaughter had been too great, and the British and French were unwilling to stop fighting short of victory.”

 

“The only way to justify the carnage and horrific loss of life was to fight on until victory could be obtained.”

 

“Moreover, as explained in the previous chapter, Britain had entered the war to destroy Germany as an industrial and commercial rival, and that remained her goal. British leaders were determined to find a way to break the stalemate and win the war. And they knew one sure-fire way of doing so was to bring America in on their side. A relentless effort was already underway to bring that about, but so far without success.”

 

[26:30]

 

And this goes into basically the jewish role in the First World War, which is very, very interesting indeed! But I didn’t know that when Germany were on top in the First World War that they had actually said:

 

“Look, we can win this, but there’s a huge loss of life here and we want peace, and we don’t want any more of our young men being slaughtered.”

 

And that, to me, was this sort of nugget of information that completely changed my perspective on the First World War and I’m sure would change the perspectives of many other people. And I hope those listening tonight will hear stuff like this and be like:

 

“Wow! That’s really interesting!”

 

Because I said I didn’t know that. And that’s something I drew from the book.

 

Now I’m going to throw this over to Dave first, and we’ll go around the group and talk about this. But Dave, when you put this together, have you had any similar feedback to that? Because this is a lot more of a broad topic than the usual sort of post Second World War, you know, revisionary material, which is all based around, really a couple of the larger concentration camps and based on whether they were actually concentration camps or death camps, and then disputing figures based on facts.

 

But this is a lot deeper than that, isn’t it?

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah, it is. And let me say that I too, of course, learnt tons from this book.

 

So it’s not like I went in and knew it all and said:

 

“Oh, let me find the errors and the misspellings and fix them all and make it better!”

 

No, I learnt a lot as well, and that was one of the parts that I really was not strong on, and I’m still not strong on it. I’m not, like you said, I’m not someone who knows everything about one topic. It’s virtually impossible to know that. But we can learn as much as we can, of course.

 

So, yeah, that was an important part of understanding the whole story about, or what we think might be the whole story about how Germany felt, the government of Germany felt at that time and what was happening, how they did appear to be on top.

 

And of course, that’s where the whole “stab in the back” comes in. Because how could it be that the Germans lost when they were winning on all fronts? Until, of course, the machinations that were occurring behind the scenes with that wildcard of what I call “organised international jewry”.

 

[29:16]

 

Mark Collett: Thank you.

 

Now, throwing this over to Bill. Bill is a very modest man, and he’s actually had a very high profile academic past. He’s a man who is very well read, and he’s a man who certainly knows his stuff. I’m going to throw this over to you, Bill. This book was Illuminating to me, and I’m not for one minute going to suggest I am as well read as you are.

 

But was there anything amongst this that sort of stood out and taught you something? And what did you think of the structure of the book? Because I think there is a misconception about these books, that they are just going to be sort of going over the well trodden ground.

 

And as I said this, for me, a lot of it was absolutely new ground. That was fascinating!

 

Bill Atheling: Yes, absolutely!

 

And I think the way that the book builds up to the main thesis, the discussion at its centre, is by, as you say, laying the groundwork and touching upon areas which are outside of the central part of the 20th century, the late 1930s, 20th century build-up, and absolutely pertinently relate to that culmination that occurred.

 

It’s a bizarre thing, you know, that you mentioned there about, and Dave mentions about the Germans were on the top of their game at certain points. And actually, both times, both the First and Second World War, Hitler did the same thing when he conquered France. He turned back to Britain and said:

 

“Look, I don’t want a war on this front. This isn’t what I’m about.”

 

Offered generous peace terms, even proposed defending the British Empire, and, you know, he was spurned.

 

So these are things which, when I first encountered them, I thought:

 

“Well, you know, this can’t be right.”

 

And when you start looking at the actual facts of it, it’s there in black and white. It’s there and it’s evidence. You know, I refer to someone like David Irving, who’s someone who have read quite, quite deeply. And he did this, you know, “heinous” thing amongst historians. Instead of going to other historians and quoting and referring to what they were saying, he actually went and looked at source documents and looked at the facts of the original from the period and presented those things. And it tells, it paints a completely different picture.

 

So I think that’s one of the significant things about this book and some of the books that are out there. But why this book particularly should be widely read, because it lays those grounds, those facts out.

 

And as I said earlier, these are some of the things which, when I first began to be reckoned were really important to me, was if there’s a fiction that’s being perpetuated here and that’s being blown out of the water, as is evidenced by this information, what else am I being told that isn’t true?

 

So it begins the whole process, and it’s like a flower opening and you see all the petals. Yeah. So just again, I mean, I don’t think there was anything specifically in this book that I thought:

 

“Oh, I didn’t know that!”

 

Only because I’ve had my nose in this topic for such a long time. But this book brings it all together in a very succinct and clear and concise way and presents it in a structured and deliberate ladder of information that you can follow to reach some kind of understanding of the events and truth.

 

[33:01]

 

 

Mark Collett: Thank you. Sally, if you’re still with us and you’re still able to hear us, you summed it up perfectly earlier, saying, if every boomer read this, it would have sort of changed the world. How much of this was new to you?

 

Aunt Sally: How much of it was new to me? Yeah, I’m here. A lot of [word unclear] was the propaganda that the war generation grew up. Sunday afternoon, there’d be a film on TV, a black and white film. And it was all about the concentration camps and the war and how noble the British were and how evil the Germans were. [words unclear] That’s actually what I would call the book, it’s the other side. The book is the title, because I wouldn’t buy that book if I saw it in the shop. [words unclear] It is the other side of the story, not just the other side to it. It’s why it happened, how things happened, and also the propaganda and deceit, which those [words unclear] what it was and what was going on. Although there were clues, and I would ask questions that they [words unclear] even by my own parents, because they needed to believe the lie, because they suffered.

 

So everybody was invested in perpetuating the myth of lies. They wanted to perpetuate that. So as a child, you were silenced. I hope you heard all that?

 

Mark Collett: We did. We did. Natty, again, you’re somebody who’s very well read. How much of this was sort of new to you? And which bits did you feel were the most Illuminating? Because for me, as I said, it was the sort of First World War was the bits which I didn’t really have full knowledge of, …

 

Natty: Yeah, well, the First World War, again, is this like massive conflagration, that had world changing impacts in the aftermath of it.

 

But again, it pales, given what happened in the Second World War, it’s become less important, especially given the direction of Western countries, Europe, the United States, Australia, South Africa. So less is said about it. But given what actually happened and the aftermath of the First World War, it’s certainly something that when you start saying to people:

 

“Well, if you really want to understand the modern world, you need to look at the Second World War.”

 

And for people in the know, they’ll say:

 

“Well, it’s earlier than that you know, it’s the First World War.”

 

And then, you know, someone will come along and say:

 

“No, no, no! It started with “X”, the expulsion of these people from this, …”

 

Yeah, whatever.

 

[36:29]

 

But the First World War certainly is pivotal. I’m going to read a part of the book here. That talks about the aftermath of the First World War. And Benton says this:

 

“The generalised belief was replaced by a feeling of pessimism and cynicism. There was a feeling that Europe had been profoundly and permanently damaged, a feeling that turned out to be highly pertinent. In retrospect, ancient empires, the Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman, Russian, and German, crumbled as a result of the war.”

 

And I’ll just add, myself, that I think the British Empire suffered because of the First World War:

 

“These empires had been a source of political and social stability, and now chaos reigned throughout Europe. The Paris Peace Conference, after the war, did a very imperfect job of putting it back together again.”

 

“It is clear from the perspective of today that World War One precipitated an irreversible decline in Western civilisation.”

 

So these great empires and great nations of Europe and the control of parts of the world were stable.

 

And then all of a sudden, this kind of mass hysteria, mass propaganda, happens, and we end up killing each other in the millions on what’s known as an industrial scale slaughter, artillery shells and machine guns and gas and all the rest of it. And in the wake of that, the continent is devastated! And what follows from it is all these social changes and all this chaos.

 

I mean, there’s a chapter in here about the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, which is a story into itself. But all of this leads into the Second World War, which probably cements the changes that were on the cards during the First World War. And obviously, this book goes into post Second World War, which is also covered in Hellstorm.

 

And, I mean, there are other books that cover other areas of, you know, expand on things that are chaptered in this book. Like I said, the Bolshevik Revolution. You could read the Gulag Archipelago, maybe, for that. Hellstorm covers the retreat of the Germans from Russia in the east and what happened to the Germans after the war in a little bit more detail. And a lot of, like Bill said, David Irving covers a lot of Hitler and what the Nazi high command was doing at the time.

 

But this book is fantastic! It gives a great overview of things that led up to the First World War all the way through and things that were happening and decisions that were being made that fed into everything that resulted from that conflict.

 

[39:26]

 

Mark Collett: Now, looking over this book and having enjoyed it so much, I think the book essentially stitches together a lot of pieces of history, because people often talk about the First World War, the Second World War, but this stitches it all together and also includes information about the Russian Revolution, the Red Terror, the founding or the beginning of the founding of the state of Israel, as well. It covers information about the Balfour Declaration.

 

Now, when I was looking through this and we touched on this earlier, I really, really enjoyed the pictures. And I really, really enjoyed the sort of these annotated. Well, there’s just so many sort of, so many pictures, drawings, pieces of propaganda.

 

And you can see when you look over this book that it draws all these different pieces together, and it allows the reader to see this not as a series of sort of isolated one offs, but as a concerted effort to demonise the German people, and specifically to also demonise nationalism. So Germans became the sort of avatars of, you know, nationalists in Europe, and they were demonised for that to a great degree.

 

And I think people have, you know, seen snippets of this. But to see it all pulled together in one place and to see the people behind it and to see those people named, and often to see pictures of those people sat together, because it’s very easy to give people lists of names. And if you’re new to this, to just be given a list of names of people who are involved is one thing, but to be given an image showing all those people sitting together at a conference arranging these very things, I think, is also incredibly important!

 

And then to juxtapose the information that we’ve been fed about German villainy and place it next to a genuine information about the Red Terror, about the Gulags, I think that places a lot of things in context as well. And this book does a brilliant job of placing everything that people may have been taught or may have heard as separate individual pieces and putting them into a larger context.

 

Now, obviously, when you were editing this, Dave, and putting this together, was that your intention, to bring all this into one place, contextualise it, and ensure that people saw this bigger picture?

 

Dave Gahary: No, I went into the project not knowing what to expect.

 

And like I said, it took about three years. I was interrupted by, of course, my hospitalisation from what is known as Covid for four months. But I jumped right back in it after I addressed another book that we had put out that I had begun before the hospitalisation. But no, I went into it without knowing what to expect. And it just evolved the way that it did.

 

Of course, a lot of time was spent on selecting these photographs and finding the ones that I thought might best represent the text on that particular page. So many hours are spent going through photographs. And Ben did have a lot of photographs of Hitler with children and all of his adoring fans to show how the Germans thought about him.

 

[43:56]

 

Of course, we’re pretty much all familiar with that, and it’s a fantastic thing to look at. But I didn’t want to place an inordinate number of those type of photos in there. I just wanted to, as you all have mentioned, select photographs that were applicable to what was being discussed and perhaps some that we might not be that familiar with.

 

Mark Collett: Bill, obviously people talk about the Second World War as being a critical turning point in the history of Europe, and that’s something we all know. And I often say, I mean, I was at the Awakening Conference in Finland this weekend, and when we talk to anyone about modern Britain and about what is known as liberal democracy, that is something that has essentially grown post Second World War. We look back and we say the Second World War cemented all this, and in many ways it did.

 

But I think this book puts into context that the plans for this liberal democracy and the sort of taking away of the power of indigenous Europeans, those wheels were set in motion a long, long time before the Second World War even broke out. And this book really placed that in context for me. How would you approach that?

 

Bill Atheling: Yeah. Yes, I agree. Does that sound better now? I’m not clicking or making strange noises.

 

Mark Collett: No, no, the clicking is gone.

 

Bill Atheling: Yeah. It’s just because I’m an old bugger. Okay. That’s what it is. And I had the cable wrapped around my headphone.

 

You’re absolutely right, Mark. It’s so important that these things are laid out as, rather than being event X happened at this date, event Y happened at this date, and event Z happened at this date. It demonstrates the kind of interlinked and the causality of different events and how they culminated in certain events. And that’s what this book is very good at painting, that picture. But there’s something else, which I think is why it succeeds so well in terms of presenting that kind of mosaic of information. It’s the tone of the writer, and I’m sure Dave had a hand in that, in terms of developing the way that texts work together.

 

But, you know, he says things about, for example, when he talks about communism, for example, he says:

 

“The obvious flaw in communist ideology was that it defied human nature, moreover, it defied common sense.”

 

You know, he says these things in very clear, very concise and demonstrably true manner.

 

And then in the chapter, when he’s talking about Nuremberg, he concludes about the way that the trial was prosecuted:

 

“If these standards had been applied at Nuremberg, all sides would have been guilty of war crimes.”

 

Very straightforward, simple sentence, and underlines everything that’s come before. So he has this ability to say things in a very clear, direct, straightforward way.

 

[47:30]

 

And I think that’s one of the most attractive things about this book, is the prose of the writer himself. I did mention this earlier, but this idea that it is presented in a way which is immediately digestible. And these facts are kind of woven together so that we don’t just see the picking over the carcass of a particular event at a particular specific time, but rather the kind of tsunami that rolled into town in the early 20th century and whose fatal flooding has continued to affect our civilisation ever since.

 

Mark Collett: Sally, how does this place things into context for you? Because, I mean, you and I have known each other for some time now, and it’s one of those things where you do believe that the Second World War was this pivotal moment.

 

But I don’t think people really realise how long these changes were building and how long this plan stretched back even before the First World War.

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah, really, the book was a revelation for me. We grew up with so much of it and how righteous we were and how wicked the Germans were. And I felt so guilty already just reading the book. Like when I was a child you looked down your noses on them and you very rarely saw any. But I just so happened to have a [word unclear] as a child, and she was a wicked cow! Real wicked cow! And now I understand why. Yeah, we look down on noses at them, even as early twenties, and if you met a German kraut, we called them “krauts”. And, yeah, I feel guilty. Guilty [word unclear] because I’ve been so deceived. I’ve bought into everything that I’m taught and grown up with, and the book, [words unclear] it’s a fantastic book!

 

When I read these books for the book club and I write down any questions I have or something to make sense, but when I did write down [words unclear] and the question within two or three, it answers everything that you ever wanted to know. If I just answered your question mark. But the yeah, the book is a revelation. Other people, other boomers should read it. Well if you could convince someone to read it, but then the title would put a lot of the boomers off. It is such a such a good book. I’m still flabbergasted by it!

 

And I read it a couple of months ago. It really is. And, yeah, I’ll pass now.

 

Mark Collett: Natty, what’s your thoughts about the way this pulls everything together? And then we’re going to move on to a slightly different topic that I think is very important.

 

[50:58]

 

Natty: Yeah, it’s a well presented narrative.

 

I mean, I’m happy to move on. You guys have covered everything that’s you’ve said about the way this book’s presented.

 

I will say this. It’s one thing to hear about propaganda against Germans in the First World War and the early in the outbreak of the Second World War and the times in between. And propaganda today looks a bit different and is more sophisticated.

 

But there are pictures in here of and they’re drawings. They’re not photographs, obviously, this is back in the First World War, where photographs would have been prohibitively expensive. But pictures of German soldiers bayoneting babies or crucifying allied soldiers to trees in the First World War, or dragging women off when they’re marching through Belgium to whip up this frenzy of hate against German people. Whereas that just hadn’t existed before on the outbreak of the First World War.

 

It’s almost like a switch is flipped, and all of this stuff gets produced, and all of a sudden, without any., … You know, you’ve got to remember this is a time without Internet. No counter narrative was available. All of a sudden, people., … And, it’s hard to know how suckered in by this people were or how much control there was and whether people were resistant to this or not. I’m sure a lot of people would have been, but simply there was no voice for that kind of dissent. Although maybe I’m wrong about that. And you could look into archives and newspaper cuttings and find journalists and newspapers who were sceptical of these claims of the evil of Germany. But just all prevailing, all pervasive and totally.

 

I don’t know, it’s crazy to think about how effective but crude that propaganda was and how different it is to propaganda from today. But I’m happy to move on. And I know I haven’t really answered your question, but to see it in the illustrations in this book is something else, really impressive.

 

Mark Collett: Well, you’ve kind of taken me on to the topic I wanted to speak about next, because we’re coming up to the hour and we’ve got some Superchats. If people do want a Superchat, please do consider sending a small donation. If you want to say something about the book or ask any questions to the panel.

 

But I will say this, reading this book in the current context of the modern geopolitical struggles going on in this very moment was very, very interesting. And it was very, very interesting because at the moment, there are two conflicts. There is the conflict in the Ukraine, and there is the conflict in occupied Palestine.

 

And as you flick through this book, you see some, well, images and words and phrases and propaganda that alludes to a certain picture of Germans, and the Germans were obviously the enemies at this time.

 

So you see pictures of Germans pretending to be normal soldiers as they stand over the bodies of women that they’ve just mutilated. You see pictures of German nurses who apparently would rather pour water on the floor than give it to a wounded allied soldier. There are pictures of Germans bayoneting children or walking or marching with children impaled on their bayonets. There are pictures of Germans crucifying allied soldiers or dragging away girls set to the background of villages or towns on fire.

 

[55:26]

 

So the Germans are all always portrayed as these murderous brutes who not only are almost sort of like Orcish, if you were to put it into sort of a the writings of Tolkien, these are sort of Orcs, and Orcs in Tolkien’s writings are absolutely inhuman! You know, they don’t think like us. They’re not like us, and they should never be treated like us. They’re a different breed, a different creature. And that’s what Germans were sort of written up like.

 

But if you take all of that and you look at the propaganda surrounding both the conflict in the Ukraine and the conflict in occupied Palestine, it’s almost amazing, because, you know, from the First World War, we’re now over 100 years on from the end of that war. But the propaganda used to make Britons and the other allied nations hate the Germans is almost identical to the propaganda we see today around the war in the Ukraine and Israel’s wholesale genocide of the Palestinian people, which is incredible!

 

So you hear today about Palestinians butchering babies, you know, roasting them in ovens, and every day, the number of babies that were apparently either beheaded or carried off, you know, grows. But that’s exactly what the same people were saying about the Germans.

 

Natty: And we’re supposed to believe that Russian soldiers today, who are fighting on the front lines in Ukraine, if given the opportunity, would storm across Europe and kill us all in our beds and subjugate us to the most terrible tyranny and also believe that Palestinians hate us for some ridiculous reasons that were never solidified.

 

And like I said, sometimes the propaganda is crude, and sometimes it’s sophisticated. But you see this whole network of today, these supposedly Right-wing influencers and stuff like this, trying to reinforce these narratives as in some cases, more heavily favouring Israel, and in some cases, on the Left or progressive side, more favouring the Ukrainians [Palestinians].

 

But in both cases, we’re supposed to believe that people who have nothing to do with us and don’t know us from Adam, are kind of eternal enemies and are ontologically evil and would do terrible things to us, given the opportunity. And it’s simply not true! And it wasn’t true of the Germans, either.

 

But it’s the same propaganda machine, the same people telling us these things, and it’s ridiculous! As soon as you start to scratch beneath the surface and look at the realities of conflict and land and control and governments and policies, it’s just absurd on its face. Palestinians don’t hate me. Why would they? They probably hate my government. Russians don’t hate me and don’t want to take over my country. They’re engaged in a kind of empire expansion, or a quest to take back natural resources.

 

These are questions that are answerable, and there’s questions, and there’s policies like that that revolve around the First World War and the Second World War. But to expand it into people being evil enough to do something that is kind of almost religiously bad, is just insane! And it’s insane to anyone who’s capable of making their brain cells fire more than you need just to watch the new Netflix, you know, series or whatever.

 

[59:31]

 

Bill Atheling: You’re right, Natty. And, it’s absolutely what you’ve said there is spot on! It’s an absolute case of “Plus Les choses changent, plus elles restent Les mêmes”. The more things change, the more they stay the same. And there is that historical echo. The same fallacies are trotted out, and the same number of people believe them, unfortunately. These things are., …

 

There’s an example of the power of this propaganda is, if I can just deviate very slightly, but there’s a Welshman, a writer called Arthur Machen*, who wrote a story called The Bowman, in 1914. And it’s a fictional story about how, during an attack at Mons, Agincourt bowman arrive and shoots spectral arrows into the air and stops the German advance and so on.

 

[* Arthur Machen (3 March 1863 – 15 December 1947) was the pen-name of Arthur Llewellyn Jones, a Welsh author and mystic of the 1890s and early 20th century. He is best known for his influential supernatural, fantasy, and horror fiction. His novella The Great God Pan (1890; 1894) has Garnered a reputation as a classic of horror, with Stephen King describing it as “Maybe the best [horror story] in the English language.” [2] He is also well known for “The Bowmen”, a short story that was widely read as fact, creating the legend of the Angels of Mons. Source: Wikipedia]

 

And people believed this story, that it was published in the press, and it was published as a piece of fiction, but people implicitly believed it.

 

And in fact, Machen would receive letters saying:

 

“What was your source? What happened? How did you find this information?”

 

He got a letter from a clergyman about this, and he had to say to the clergyman:

 

“Well, no, it’s a piece of fiction.”

 

And to the point where the clergyman wrote back to him and said:

 

“No, you’re mistaken. It’s real. It must be real! What’s your source?”

 

So this is the problem you have with propaganda.

 

Mark Collett: Does Dave, or well, Sally’s not commented yet. Sally, would you like to say anything about this? Because I’m going to ask Dave a few questions in a second. Sally, what are your thoughts on this?

 

Aunt Sally: About?

 

Mark Collett: Yes, about propaganda.

 

Aunt Sally: Well, as far as propaganda is concerned, I think I realised that what the telly told you was a lie, and I cancelled my TV licence and actually haven’t watched TV since. And I stopped consuming mainstream [word unclear] or buying and reading their news. Sometimes I keep an eye on what’s going on, or what they are, but I know now, and I’ve known for a few years, and probably that’s the difference, that are still people believing it.

 

Yet the power of propaganda is, it’s deceit, isn’t it? It’s just all about deceiving you into going with what they want you to believe. And the war generations they were invested in it. And that they invested their lives, [words unclear]. Would have been awful for them to realise the truth! It really would. So they had to invest in the propaganda, and [words unclear] Russians, and it was a righteous war, and the Germans are evil. They needed that. Otherwise, if they realised what they’d really done., … And they’re all dead now, aren’t they? It goes to the next generations, if they ever find out.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you. Dave?

 

[1:03:05]

 

 

Dave Gahary: Yes.

 

Mark Collett: I mean, obviously, you do your own show and you publish many books. Do you think this book, at this point in history, is something that carries a more pressing message because of this? I mean, I think we were discussing this briefly before the show and whether we were going to go into this.

 

And obviously we have got here, and I was thinking about it as we were talking about generally what the book was about.

 

But I do think the issues in this book today are as relevant as they ever were. And how do you view this? Because, I mean, ultimately, they’ve been telling exactly the same lies now for almost a century. Well, for over a century.

 

Dave Gahary: Right. Yes. And that actually is., … Well, before I say that, just let me say that I’m floored by all of your comments about how much you love the book, because, as I mentioned, I poured a lot of work into it, and it’s great to hear that, especially from this group, that you all loved it! So thank you. Means a lot to me.

 

And Tom Goodrich of Hellstorm, he wrote the foreword. As you know, I wanted to mention that earlier, and the cover was done by a close colleague of mine, Paul Angel from the Barnes Review, an American Free Press, we have worked together for going on about 20 years, and he’s a terrific guy. And it took us a while to come up with this cover. It was one of those covers that we really weren’t quite sure about which direction we would go in. And this was what we settled on, and I think it came out very well.

 

But as far as this topic and how it relates to today and what you and I, Mark, had touched upon briefly was that with all of the stuff happening since we first talked about doing this book review, it’s almost like the discussion of a book like this, a historical book like this, would be viewed as something pedestrian or staid.

 

[1:05:34]

 

Maybe the main attraction that I have to history is what you had touched upon earlier is that everything’s the same. And the reason that everything’s the same, I think, is that people don’t change. One could read The Iliad and The Odysee, written thousands and thousands of years ago, and it’s almost as if you’re hearing about something that occurred in your life in the current day, because human nature doesn’t change!

 

And I think a book like this is very important, as are many other history books, because they reveal that what happened over 100 years ago, the people who were manipulating and deceiving with their propaganda are doing the same exact thing today at a different target.

 

So I think that if someone picks up this book and if it gives them just that, the understanding that there really is nothing new under the sun, that all of this was done before, not just in the 19th and, 200th century centuries, but thousands of years ago, because human nature doesn’t change.

 

So besides giving one the knowledge that I feel is necessary to understanding this particular topic, it also gives the reader the ability to get a greater grasp on human nature and how that stays constant throughout the ages. So, yes, I think that although we are confronted with currently much, much different challenges than you might read about in The Myth of German Villainy, they are all tied together and they can’t be separated.

 

In fact, it might be that someone gaining the knowledge of the propaganda and manipulation that took place during the First World War and the Second World War and continues to take place via the you know, there’s plenty of terms for the media, but, you know, one of one of my recent favourites is the “lying legacy media”. The lying legacy media, I think, is really the biggest culprit for the dumbing down and kept in the dark propaganda for the public. And that ties into people like us who are looking for answers outside of what the lying legacy media is spewing.

 

People like us are in the stark minority. You know, I refer to people like us as mutants because we are not afraid to entertain any thought or idea, whereas the masses, who can’t. If you told them that:

 

“I’ve been looking into the history of this and of World War Two, and I just I don’t think that Hitler was as bad of a guy as they tell us he is.”

 

You know, most people would recoil in horror because of how they’ve been programmed.

 

So these are the people. And I mean, like, 99.999% of humanity cannot entertain an original thought, an original idea. If it goes off course from what they’ve been programmed, they are going to have a violent reaction to it.

 

So I don’t think we can wait. And I’m going a little off topic here, but I think it ties into it.

 

But I don’t think we could wait for them to catch up to us. I think we just have to steam ahead and try to get the important information, like we’re talking about today, to as many open minds as possible.

 

[1:10:18]

 

Natty: I just want to push back on that a little bit, Dave, because I think that after October 7 [2023, Hamas attacking the Israelis] and for Americans, maybe a little bit more so, the amount of money that’s being sent to Ukraine, I think that people are becoming more receptive to jewish power or jewish over representation and nepotism in a way that I haven’t seen before.

 

And I’m not sure. Maybe you’re going to tell me:

 

“No, this is a cycle. And people go back to, …”

 

Dave Gahary: No, I agree with you 100%. Absolutely! Yeah, 100%. As a matter of fact, I predicted what would happen in 2022. I thought it was going to happen in 2020, but then they rolled out that Covid thing.

 

But in 2022, I predicted that 2023 would be our best year and, 20024 would be even better than that. And the reason I did was because I saw things happening. And at the time I said that in 2022, none of my colleagues agreed with me, none saw it.

 

And I’m not saying that I’m some kind of a seer and that I have great, you know, predictive abilities, but I did see it. And it was obvious to me because of what was happening, how people were responding, the comments that were, in posts.

 

And I’m not an “anti-social media” guy or social media guy, which I call “anti-social media” because that’s what it is. I’m not a social media guy. But I did see a post that somebody brought to my attention on X. And it was this vampire like character from the ADL, Greenblatt, who, you know, had spewed some filth about Leo Frank and saying he was exonerated. And this was the first time I actually read comments on a post.

 

And this was last year, and the post was made in March of last year. And I read every comment. There were about two to 300. And there was only one that said:

 

“My God, I’m jewish! You have to tell these people off!”

 

Something like that. All the rest were saying:

 

“What are you talking about? You guys framed that black guy!”

 

And going on and on. When those sort of opinions are allowed in the public square, which they were and are now, it was very clear to me that there was a huge seismic shift in the understanding of organised international jewry and, of course, that imaginary jewish power. And we are in the middle of a great awakening that has never before happened!

 

And I remember I was talking about it on the show, I do that Mark mentioned with David Duke on Sunday nights, a call in show which allows anybody from anywhere to call in and talk to the good doctor. And I brought that up about this mass awakening.

 

[1:13:39]

 

And, of course, as I mentioned, nobody thought that that was happening, but now everybody sees that it’s happening.

 

And I said to David that:

 

“You must be feeling pretty good, because what you’ve been talking about for nearly six decades is finally people are seeing what’s going on.”

 

But I’ll temper that with saying that the people who are seeing what’s going on are the “mutants”.

 

So these are the ones who are already susceptible to accepting pretty much anything. It’s just that now it’s so obvious that they were like, wow, I can’t ignore this anymore. So I still think that those, the 99.999%, because we’re a very tiny number, our group of mutants, that 99.99% is still bubbled into their lying legacy media programming.

 

But I do think we are in a great awakening.

 

Natty: Sure. Yeah. I do agree with that, and there are a few things to watch out for. I know you say we’re a tiny amount of people, but we for the most part, have remained laser focused on this issue.

 

And I think it really does help. You know, if you could think about motes of dust surrounding us being pulled in and pulled into that laser as well. And there are a lot of distractions. You know, aliens are now apparently a thing, and the Illuminati and, you know whatever else, whatever else can be a distraction.

 

But I think for the most part, people like us in larger ways, like you and your publishing house, and sometimes in tiny, small ways, like us doing this podcast and this book review, and millions and millions, which is small in the grand scheme of things. People on places like Twitter and on social media sharing memes and ideas and talking and being dissidents, is forcing people who are trying to hold the tiller into swinging very slowly in this direction.

 

And to make another point, there are so many inroads into this now. Like I said, the liberal progressive people are suddenly finding out that Israel and the jewish power structure has carved out an exception to, if not genocide, ethnic cleansing at the very least. And they don’t like it. And now they have this inroad into:

 

“Well, why is there this exception?”

 

And they start asking questions like that. And it’s only going to lead to one place. And for the American Right, for the kind of the much lauded and shat upon boomers, their money, their tax money is being sent to Israel like never before, and the Ukraine, which for those people is a country on the other side of the world, but shouldn’t be receiving their money.

 

So all of these otherwise disparate groups are being forced to look into this issue and confront it and start asking questions if they have any desire to enact some sort of political change. Which I know is extremely hard, and we all know that here.

 

But I don’t think it’s not nothing. I’ll say that.

 

[1:17:17]

 

Dave Gahary: No, no, it’s not. It’s something.

 

But I think we’re at a point now, and I’ve mentioned this several times on shows in private and publicly, that we can literally kick back a little bit because now the unhinged Left is doing our job for us. And we see that happening.

 

So it’s a great time to be alive because all of the stuff that we focused on, in our group, if I can call it that, is the most educated group out there, because again, it goes back to not being afraid to entertain any idea or thought. So we are interested in learning. We want to dig into things. And yes, there are a lot of distractions. Flat earth, aliens, the Illuminati, Hitler was a Rothschild, all that stuff.

 

One of the things that keeps me going is that I feel like I do have that. And I’ll borrow your term “laser focus” on what I’m trying to do. And I don’t let this stuff distract me. And I don’t., As Sally was saying, I don’t watch television. I haven’t watched it since 1991, when my first son was born. I have no interest in it. I have no interest in the jew’s media, or whatever you want to call it. I tangentially look at it, but I know what they’re going to say, of course.

 

So the good news is that media is dying! But you’ve got people like Joe Rogan and his ilk who refuse to, or are unaware of what is really happening, and they don’t go to that next step.

 

So I really think that people like us, it is an incredibly small, minuscule group, but it’s those small groups who have changed history.

 

I mean, I’ll use, you know what you all created, your ancestors created this nation here. And it was only about 8,000 Patriots with a capital “P” who were organising the rebellion against their British overlords. Because of what we mentioned earlier, taxation without representation, nothing has changed. They went against all the odds to defeat the greatest empire in history. So I’m certainly not saying that we cannot win. If I woke up every day and sat down at my desk and thought that I wouldn’t wake up, I just give up.

 

So I have high hopes. I think that in America, we’re taught that, or at least we were when I grew up – I was born in 1960 – that anybody could be the president.

 

Unfortunately, we’ve seen that happen. Anybody could do anything that they want to do. I’m a firm believer in that. I’ve experienced that. I’ve done things that I still can’t believe I’ve done them. I don’t think it was myself doing. I think I had help, but I think that we can do anything. And if we don’t think that way, we sell ourselves and those around us short!

 

And I think we should all believe that we can achieve victory.

 

And I believe that we can!

 

[1:21:20]

 

Mark Collett: Thank you. Some inspiring words there, Dave.

 

So this is the part of the show where I really want to throw it open to Bill, Sally and Natty. I’ve done a lot of speaking. Are there anything, is there anything in the book that you guys would like to particularly focus on or bring up or anything about the book that you think I’ve missed or maybe something in the book that was missed? So, Bill, is there anything you’d like to bring up?

 

Bill Atheling: Well, I don’t know whether it’s something that you might have missed, but there’s a particular quote in chapter 13, which is by an English Daily Express reporter, and it’s quite a lengthy quote. But it’s very interesting as an insight into how Germany was perceived in the thirties before things swung around.

 

So, for example, this is six months after Germany’s militarisation and the incursions of the Rhineland and a month after the Olympics. And he writes things like this:

 

“There is, for the first time since the war, a general sense of security.”

 

Speaking, obviously, about Germany:

 

“The people are more cheerful. There is a greater sense of general gaiety of spirits throughout the land. It is a happier Germany. I saw it everywhere. An Englishman I met during my trip and who knew Germany well, were very impressed with the changes.”

 

And he goes on to say:

 

“It impressed me more than anything I witnessed during my short visit to New Germany, a powerful revivalist atmosphere, an extraordinary effect in unifying the nation.”

 

And then he goes on to say about all the different types of Germans who have brought together, Bavarians and northerners and so on.

 

Natty: Wait, Bill, can you imagine anybody walking around England today and asking any Englishman and getting that impression? I don’t think so.

 

Bill Atheling: Absolutely! Absolutely! And there’s this sense that we have this lens that has been calcified in the years since 1945, and that was still fluid and it was still moving before that period. And but we still have documentation like this to look at and to access and say:

 

“Well, actually, there was this idea that there was this, you know, we’re showing all the television dramas and films and movies, and there’s the coming storm and all this kind of thing, and everybody’s gloomy, and everyone thinks that there’s a terrible evil rising in the east.”

 

And it’s just not the case. There isn’t this kind of Sauron like monster rising in the east. You know, people didn’t see it in that sense. This is a post-war painting. And just looking at things like that, just looking at that, just very simple series of quotes from that particular period really underlines that.

 

[1:24:16]

 

One of the things which when I was teaching, I used to say to students before lectures was “question received wisdom”. That sounds in some ways to be a negative thing. You say:

 

“Well, you don’t question tradition and so on.”

 

But actually, we were getting students, kids who had done A levels and so on.

 

Their minds had been so constricted and narrowed that all of a sudden I was saying to them:

 

“Well, actually, no, you can question this. You’re allowed to question this. There’s these narratives.”

 

And I would try and red pill them and show them things and talk about things, and to a degree, got across to them that, it’s okay to actually question these narratives that we’ve been fed because I mean, the classic one thing I said was:

 

“When we’re looking at history, we are allowed to question all kind of interpretations of was Henry VIII the good king? Was Henry the bad king? And so on. But there’s one period in history we’re not allowed to question, and why do you think that is?”

 

You know, so I just pose questions to them and leave them to think about, to cogitate a little bit on that. And that’s what this book does in the sense it kind of breaks through that calcification and allows that kind of marinade in information which wouldn’t normally be denied to them.

 

And I think coming back to what Dave and Natty were saying about the propaganda war and in terms of the shift, we have this thing, the Internet, and as constricted and as restricting as it has become, in some ways, we’re streaming on Odysee and not YouTube, for example.

 

At the same time, it’s a barrel with too many holes in it, and they can’t plug all the leaks.

 

And so I think what this book does is it provides buckshot to knock through some of those barrels and let some of the water out.

 

Mark Collett: Sally, is there anything about the book that you think I’ve missed or anything that you’d like to bring up?

 

Aunt Sally: Right. My dog might bark because there’s a fox outside.

 

There is. I mean, for me, the thing, I just keep thinking about mine [words unclear] and I think I’ve covered it already. I don’t want to repeat myself, but we weren’t taught about the war. We were given films on [words unclear] no one talked. The parents didn’t talk about it. The school didn’t talk about it. And I grew up why the war happened? And I used to ask my father:

 

“Did you go to war to save jews?”

 

That’s what I thought they went to. He didn’t really answer me, but I presumed it. So I thought it was about saving the jews. I had no idea, even till.

 

And this book, it’s just all there and I can’t recommend it enough. It’s such an eye opener. It explains every little thing. I wish I’d had it, you know, when I was a child. It would have. [words unclear] Yeah, well, I’ve just written down, we were brought up in total ignorance, that generation. And to go forth, and my father used to say:

 

“Go! We had to suffer. Enjoy it. Enjoy your life!”

 

And I think that was the case for all the boomers:

 

“Go forth, because we never had any [words unclear] go forth and enjoy the world.”

 

Because our parents and our grandparents, … So that’s me making excuses for the boomers, although I know that they’re kind of irredeemable, but they don’t know what I know. Yeah, I’ll stop now, Mark.

 

[1:28:45]

 

Bill Atheling: Well, you’re quite right, Sally.

 

And I think and I speak to my dear old mum, who’s in her eighties, and then she’s got a very fixed eye idea of that period in history and, you know, won’t move on it in many ways. But that generation is the old generation, and that’s very different amongst Zoomers and so on.

 

I think there’s a very different attitude that’s growing now.

 

Mark Collett: So, Natty, is there anything in the book that you think was missed out or anything you want to add to what we’ve said tonight? And then we’ll do the Superchats.

 

Natty: Well, there’s loads in here that I don’t think we’re going to get round to, namely the Katyn Forest massacre, which I think you’ve done a podcast, or a standalone video yourself, Mark, and I think was covered in Hellstorm. It’s not famous, normie wise, but it’s fairly well known on the Right, so maybe it’s not worth going into. But I will just note that initially the allies blamed the Germans for the Katyn Forest massacre, in which something like 26,000 of the Polish, the elite, the kind of cream of Polish society, a cream of Polish men, officers and educators and teachers and stuff, were executed, turned out to be the Bolsheviks.

 

The second thing, this book also goes into Dresden, which we’ve covered before. I know we’ve covered before, which is probably one of the worst war crimes, minus, if you set aside Hiroshima and Nagasaki, one of the worst war crimes, I think, to come out of the Second World War.

 

But one of the things I wasn’t aware of which I’m not sure if this was covered in Hellstorm, if I’ve read it somewhere else. I don’t think I have. Was the jewish Brigade. And, Dave, you probably know about this. Mark, I’m not sure if this was something you’re aware of but essentially the book says this:

 

“There was a jewish infantry brigade group, more commonly known as the jewish Brigade, that not many had been aware of a military formation of the British army. It was formed in late 1994 [1944].”

 

It goes on:

 

“Using their British army credentials and uniforms, they travelled around Germany (this is after the war) and Austria, hunting down and killing high ranking German officers. They had unlimited logistical support from the British army, could requisition anything they needed and travelled anywhere in Germany or Austria. They had all of Germany’s official records, which the allies had given them, obviously.”

 

[1:31:36]

 

And these guys were, like, hell bent on executing people just for being in charge of groups of soldiers. There’s a quote here:

 

“One of the jewish executioners, Israel Kami, explained in Beckman’s book how they dealt with their selected targets. When we arrived at the home of our suspects, we were put on British military police helmets, wore white bands and police armlets. Then we would enter the home and take the suspect with us, saying that we wanted them for interrogation. Usually they came without struggle. Once in the car, we told the prisoner who we were and why we took him. Some admitted guilt. (He doesn’t say guilt of what) Others kept silent. We did the job. We were burning with hatred. We knew that our people would never forgive us if we did not exploit this opportunity to kill nazis.”

 

What he really means is kill Germans. I wasn’t aware of that you know, that’s a British, supposedly a British brigade, a British army unit operating after the Second World War, going around and executing soldiers who had surrendered. There’s so many things like that about the Second World War that just fill you with revulsion and sickness of what your own government was up to!

 

Bill Atheling: It’s as if the dreadful Tarantino., …

 

Natty: Yes, exactly. In reverse!

 

Bill Atheling: Yeah, absolutely!

 

Natty: Yeah. There’s so many things like that.

 

I mean, this is going off on a tangent a little bit, but there’s a lot of instances in the media doing that kind of thing, switching up the sides. So Inglourious Basterds [2009] has this, you know, group of jews going around and killing people during the war. Well, it wasn’t, they weren’t taking prisoners in some partisan raid and carrying out daring things. They just got records and were going around extra judicially taking revenge on Germans.

 

And to get slightly off topic here, the same thing happened with, I’m going to forget the name of the film now, but it’s about a court case in which, oh it’s Our Time to Kill, it’s called. And it’s about a black father who kills two White kind of supremacists in the deep south after they rape his daughter. And the court case is all about the lawyer trying to get this black father off because you probably aren’t going to be judged too harshly for killing those two men.

 

But it turns out that the case was entirely reversed, and it was actually two black guys who had raped a young White girl. And that was the case that John Grisham had based the book off, which was the film was based off. That’s just an aside, but it just goes to show you the power of propaganda and what media can do.

 

[1:34:31]

 

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah. A pure jewish piece of propaganda! Screenplay by Akiva Goldsman, produced by Arnon Milchan.*

 

[* A Time to Kill is a 1996 American legal drama film based on John Grisham’s 1989 novel of the same name. Sandra Bullock, Samuel L. Jackson, Matthew McConaughey, and Kevin Spacey star with Donald and Kiefer Sutherland appearing in supporting roles and Octavia Spencer in her film debut. The film received mixed reviews but was a commercial success, making $152 million world-wide. Source: Wikipedia]

 

And of course, that’s that jewish Israeli spy who up until now has gotten off the hook with all the spying he did for Israel here in the United States.

 

Natty: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you. Let’s do some of these Superchats. We will go through these and then we’ll give our final thoughts on the book. Open borders for Israel gave $5. Thank you so much, my friend. And thank you so much for your continued support. He says:

 

“Hey, Mark, would you consider doing a review of any Lothrop Stoddard’s books?”

 

I’m not sure what they are:

 

“I recommend The Rising Tide of Colour Against White World Supremacy*. It was written in the 1920s and predicted a massive number of non-Whites coming to the West.”

 

I haven’t actually heard of that, but thank you for the suggestion. I will look into it.

 

[* The Rising Tide of Color: The Threat Against White World-Supremacy (1920), by Lothrop Stoddard, is a book about racialism and geopolitics, which describes the collapse of White supremacy and colonialism because of the population growth among people of colour, rising nationalism in colonised nations, and industrialisation in China and Japan. To counter the perceived geopolitical threat, Stoddard advocated Nordicism, racial segregation, and general racism, restricting non-white immigration into white-majority countries, restricting immigration of non-members of the “Nordic race” to countries primarily containing members of the “Nordic race”; restricting Asian migration to Africa; and slowly giving independence to European colonies in Asia (including the Middle East). A noted eugenicist, Stoddard supported a separation of the “primary races” of the world and warned against miscegenation, the mixing of the races. Source: Wikipedia]

 

Natty: I had it. I had a quick look at that, Mark. And Wikipedia is probably not a good source, but it seems that Stoddard had some other ideas, like we talked about earlier, that went off the rails slightly, but it might be worth looking into.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, I’ll have a look into that. And thank you for the Superchat. D salon seven gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Here in America, German villainy did not exist before 1916.”

 

Now, this is a really good point. I don’t know if Dave wants to comment on this briefly. He says:

 

“We had German language schools, newspapers, social clubs, and strong ties to Germany all long gone now. A rich cultural legacy eradicated, leaving only faint traces behind. In any of the context, this would be called a mass atrocity.”

 

Would you like to comment on that, Dave?

 

The fact that America was once a lot of German representation and that was basically stamped out.

 

[1:36:28]

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah, a lot of this stuff, personally, I get angry about it. But yes, there was, there still is a huge German population here in America. And unfortunately, because of the propaganda and who spews it, yeah, the Germans were wholesale looked upon as the enemy. And the people who control the media have had it out for these poor folks for a long time. And they still do, obviously.

 

So that’s why it’s incumbent on us in our positions, in our individual and group positions, to make sure that we do whatever we can to get the proper information out to as many people as possible, not knowing who we’re going to impact, but knowing that we are, in fact, having a great impact, especially now.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much, Andy Great Story. Good to see you tonight, my friend. Again, $10. He said:

 

“The award section of Money Tree Publishing is fantastic! Exemplary awards!”

 

Well, thank you, my friend. And obviously, if you want this book, please do go to Money Tree Publishing. The link is in the description below. It takes you to where you can purchase this second edition of the book.

 

And I believe that’s exclusive to Money Tree Publishing. I couldn’t find it anywhere else.

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah, it is, Mark, I just want to say first two things. One is the awards section. I named it “Awards” because that was if you go to Money Tree publisher and you look on the menu, you’ll see it says Awards. And what that is that was the award I was given by the Anti-Defamation League. So thank you again, ADL and Jonathan Greenblatt!

 

Now in the United States, and yes, it is exclusive just to us, and we carry a lot of banned books and exclusive products. But the way that the US postal system works, the United States, Postal Service, is that currently the US government is subsidizing China.

 

And of course, this is at the expense of countries like the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, pretty much everywhere else.

 

So China is getting great rates because of, obviously, economics, and they’re making everybody else pay through the nose. So if somebody from the UK went to Money Tree Publishing and, let’s say, selected the colour version of the book, the cost of the colour version is $35. The cost of the black and white is 25. The shipping to the United Kingdom is $32.58.

 

So if you got the black and white version, the shipping would cost more than the actual book, which is really horrible, but we have no control over that.

 

But what I will say is that if anyone from the UK wants to get the book, just go to moneytreepublishing.com and click on the contact tab and send an email to me. I’ll get it. And just have the subject line Villainy or MGV, capital M, capital G, capital V for Myth German Villainy. And just let me know you’re from the UK and I can arrange it so the shipping cost will be reduced to maybe five or six pounds sterling versus almost US$33.

 

[1:40:32]

 

So I can do that because we can get this printed in the UK at a facility in the UK and shipped to the UK. So that would probably help out with anyone who doesn’t., … And I can’t blame you. I wouldn’t want to pay those prices. But these books are available only from Money Tree Publishing. And when we first started in January 2017 with one book, we have never raised our prices and we don’t plan on raising the prices because the goal is just to disseminate the information. This isn’t like a typical “for profit business”. It’s to get this information into as many hands as possible.

 

So we’re not focused on making money, we’re focused on educating with this material.

 

So please go to moneytreepublishing.com, click on the contact tab, fill out that information and let us know you’re from the UK, and we’ll save you close to probably $30.

 

Mark Collett: Superb. Thank you so much! It Was Made Up gave $5. Thanks so much:

 

“Just a small donation to keep the lights on. Thank you and farewell to Bill, and thank you for making me aware of Money Tree Publishing.”

 

Thank you so much! Robbie Herbert gave $5. Thanks so much. Said:

 

“My maternal grandmother went over the top. Sorry, maternal grandfather went over the top on the first day of the Somme in 1916 with nearly 800 men while serving in the 8th Battalion, King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. He was wounded himself, but returned with less than 200 men on that fateful day. Something that he would never talk about.”

 

Thank you so much! And Robbie Herbert gave another $3.

 

Natty: Can I break in on that Superchat? Because, …

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, sure.

 

Natty: Someone mentioned this in the chat. There’s a brilliant YouTube channel [https://www.youtube.com/@ZoomerHistorian] at the moment called Zoomer Historian, or I think it’s Historian Zoomer. I’m not sure it’s even which way around, but he has just produced, I think it’s almost an hour long video saying:

 

“What would the war veterans think today? Would they have fought?”

 

It’s a really good channel and I don’t think it’s going to last long. So I’ll give it a plug here and if anyone wants to check it out, you can, because that Superchat, I think it was Rory Herbert, is very relevant to that topic, which is his latest video. So give Zoomer historian a chance if you’re on YouTube, guys.

 

[1:43:10]

 

Mark Collett: Thank you. Good plug there. And Rory Herbert gave another $3. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Just over a year ago, I was invited to a St. George’s Day dinner at my old regiment. One of the guest speakers was the Ukrainian ambassador. Needless to say I decided not to attend. But it just goes to show how the British army, the Ministry of Defence and our government are in cahoots with one another.”

 

Thank you so much! Zach gave an Aussie token, said:

 

“Mark, please review Joe Haldeman’s Forever War.* And did you ever hear from Jeremy from Kentucky, Patrick Satter is co-host about doing a show about PA on RBN?”

 

No, but it is something I would like to do, so if Jeremy’s listening, I would do that.

 

[* The Forever War, a 1974 novel by Joe Haldeman. The Forever War is a military science fiction novel by American author Joe Haldeman, telling the contemplative story about human soldiers fighting an interstellar war against an alien civilisation known as the Taurans. It won the Nebula Award in 1975 and the Hugo and Locus awards in 1976. Forever Free and Forever Peace are, respectively, direct and thematic sequel novels. Wikipedia]

 

Skip Meister, 68, gave $15. Thank you so much for the kind donation, and Space Can gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“What is a world of peace if it is made from the blood of innocents? Our ancestors demand an accounting for the World Wars inflicted upon us!”

 

I agree. That is a very, very good Superchat! And we have one more Superchat that was over on, … Let me just bring it up. Where’s the where’s the other tab? It was over on Rumble and it’s for $20 from Red Pill. Thank you so much!:

 

“Thank you, Mark, for all you do. I own this book. Will watch the replay. Wanted to throw you some funds, though. You’re a living legend!”

 

Well, thank you for so much, my friend. Thank you for the kind words.

 

So that is the Superchats wrapped up. We’ve got about ten minutes left, so let’s everyone give their summations of the book going around the group. Bill, Aunt Sally, Natty, then me, and then we’ll give Dave the last word. Starting with you, Bill. Go ahead, my friend.

 

Bill Atheling: Thank you, Mark.

 

And I must say that I’ve been very fortunate. Every book that I’ve been involved in reviewing on the book club has been really good, and this is no exception. My grandfather was a Dunkirk veteran. He was very badly wounded at Dunkirk and invalided out for the rest of the war. Very patriotic man. Believed he was doing the right thing. Lied about his age to join up. After the war. And what he saw, the way the country was going, he was incredibly disillusioned in it. And I think, just going back to what Natty was saying about with these ex-servicemen, he certainly would have had second thoughts if he had the chance again.

 

I think this is an excellent book! It challenges the orthodox historical interpretation of events throughout recent history. The last 150 years. It does so in a very concise, direct and convincing way, and in a way that is actually very accessible. It’s very well written. It’s written in a very clear style of prose. It’s well backed up, it’s well referenced and it’s well worth buying.

 

[1:46:14]

 

Aunt Sally: First of all, I want to apologise for the sound quality of me tonight. It will be fixed for the next one.

 

And also, I want to say thank you, Bill, for being part of the book club. It’s been great having you. This book, out of all the books we’ve done, I think this is the most important book! If I could only keep one, it would be this one, alongside Hellstorm. It’s not my favourite book, but it’s the most important. When I saw it was a book about politics, I don’t like reading about politics in particular, really bore me.

 

But it was just one of those I couldn’t put it down. In fact, when I did put it down, I was then thinking, it’s a fantastic book and I can’t recommend it highly enough. Thank you.

 

Mark Collett: Natty.

 

Natty: Yeah, fantastic! Highly recommended! And, like I said, there are many books that cover various aspects, but this book is a great overview.

 

So if you are looking as someone who isn’t well read on this subject, this would be a really good place to start, and then you could branch off and dive into other topics.

 

Just as a final note, there’s loads in this book we didn’t cover, and I’ve got quite a lot in my notes, but Dolo on Odysee says:

 

“Big A, (and he’s talking about Adolf Hitler) let the Dunkirk lads go.”

 

That’s correct. And there’s a there’s a section in this book that covers Dunkirk, what happened and how the Brits were amazed when they found out that Hitler essentially let the entire British force go. And didn’t wipe them out and didn’t take them captive, because he was hoping that, … He had a lot of admiration for the British and was hoping that they wouldn’t pester him anymore. Unfortunately, I didn’t pan out for him.

 

But there’s just so many nuggets of information like that in this book, and there’s a quotation by German admiral on that subject. So, like I said, there’s loads of stuff like this in this book.

 

So if you want to find out about this pivotal period in history, this book is a very good place to start.

 

Mark Collett: Okay, well, I’m going to give my thoughts on it. I obviously really enjoyed the book. I thought it was excellent, and it went well beyond the scope of what I was expecting it to go over. It’s much bigger, much more in depth.

 

And I think I went through a few of the chapter headings earlier, but here’s that again. The myth of Germany is an evil nation. The Bolshevik Revolution spreads throughout Europe, the nation of Israel, life in Germany under Hitler creating the case for war, Germany as the victim. There’s plenty in there, and it covers a real lengthy period of a tumultuous period of European history and puts it all into context.

 

So I really recommend it. But the thing I really like about this book is its very illustrative as well. I think these books can be very heavy, especially when they’re trying to explain things. But this book stops short. It doesn’t actually explain things. It shows you them with great pictures, illustrations. All these things are annotated, and it let’s, you know exactly the kind of propaganda that the people at the time were being fed.

 

[1:50:08]

 

And I think this book is so important at the moment because it let’s everybody know that this isn’t something new, that what we’re living through now is not unique. Our time is not something out of the ordinary. This sort of manure has been fed to our people for decades. For centuries, in fact, now. The weaponisation of propaganda to force people to go to war, to make people hate other people. This is an age old tactic. And the tactic hasn’t really changed or evolved. It’s still the same today as it was 100 years ago. Babies being beheaded, people dragging women off as they burn their homes down. And in today’s world, these things are being used every day to make British people want to go to war with Russia, to want to stand by and let Israel carpet bomb Palestinian civilians.

 

So I think this book is not only important from a historical perspective, but it helps people today place what we’re seeing within wider perspective.

 

So, yeah, a fantastic book! Dave, is there any last words you would like to say before we shut things down?

 

Dave Gahary: Yeah. Thank you, of course, for having me on and headlining the book, and great to take part in this discussion, and thank you all for your kind words about the book. Like I said, it shows me that I did my job, and I’m very appreciative of that. I want to just thank you, Mark and the panelists here and your organisation for everything you are doing, because we’re all noticing what’s happening, of course, over here on this side of the pond. And we’re very sad about the direction that things are going with the stifling of freedom of speech.

 

Of course, we have those protections enshrined here in our constitution, thanks to, as I mentioned, your ancestors. We have the Constitution. We have the so-called Bill of Rights with the speech protections and other protections.

 

And so we’re in a much different position, again, thanks to your country.

 

So we’re able to say the things that, sadly, you can’t. But we are very appreciative of what your organisation is doing, and we’re very saddened by some of the recent development with Sam and seeing the child born and him not being able to take part in that, it’s very disheartening the direction of things.

 

But again, I’ll say that for me, as long as I’m alive and breathing, I’m going to do whatever I can to make sure that we do have free speech.

 

And that’s really what keeps me going. It’s not that I have anything against a particular race or ethnic group. It’s that being an American and being raised with the protections that we were raised with, if you don’t use it, you’re going to lose it. And I don’t want anyone telling me what I can say, when I can say it.

 

And again, I can’t obviously equate this country with yours, but I can say that we’ll do whatever we can here on our side to help you guys out and make sure that you can get what we have. Thankfully, again, thanks to your great country.

 

[1:54:26]

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much! I think it’s been a great show tonight. I am extremely tired because I’ve been up since 03:00 am, traveling back from Finland. So I hope it’s still been a high energy show and that I’ve been coherent throughout. There’ll be more updates through the week, hopefully when pictures and speeches emerge from the event in Finland, which I hope you all enjoy.

 

Anyway, we’ll be back next month. I’ve got to just firm up who the, whether the author of the book that we’re having on next month, so I don’t want to announce it, is free on that particular Sunday. So going forward from there. I’ll be making an announcement very shortly on that, and if it is the book we think it’s going to be, there will also be a free PDF of that, which I’ll share with everyone so people can actually read the book before, for free. So that’ll be quite exciting.

 

Anyway, I just like to say a huge thank you to Dave for coming on tonight. Massive thanks to Aunt Sally and Natty, but a special thanks to Bill. It’s his last episode tonight.

 

I’d like to thank him for all his hard work with the book club over the years. It’s been really great hosting with him, and I look forward to seeing him at future events. And if he ever wants to come back for a one off, he is more than welcome.

 

So, would everyone like to say goodnight? And let’s give the last word tonight to Bill. So Sally, Natty, if you’d like to say goodnight, and then we’ll throw it over to Bill and close things down.

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah, I just want to say good night Dave, and thank you very much for actually doing the book in the first place, because I think it’s a valuable resource for future generations.

 

And as Natty said, it’s a brief overview. It’s almost, I say, an idiot’s guide to what happened, but it’s an easy read guide to what happened.

 

So I just want to thank you, really, from the bottom of my heart, for bringing it all about. Thank you for being on the show as well. Thank you.

 

Dave Gahary: Thank you, Sally.

 

Natty: Yeah, good night, guys. Bill, you’re going to be missed! And to echo what a lot of people are saying in the chat, we miss Sam as well. And Dave, thank you for your kind words on that.

 

I mean, I didn’t have loads of interaction with Sam, but I miss him. You know, he was always present and I look forward to the day he’s back.

 

So thank you Chat, everyone who’s been interacting tonight, it’s been good and look forward to it next time.

 

[1:56:51]

 

Dave Gahary: Thanks, Natty.

 

Bill Atheling: Oh, thank you, everybody. And Mark, thank you so much! I totally enjoyed doing this. It’s just one of those things, circumstances beyond my control unfortunately, at the moment. It’s been a great privilege and a great pleasure to be here with this group of eloquent and interesting people. And thank you, Dave, for your book. It’s excellent!

 

As I said, it’s a high recommendation from me. And, yeah, Mark if things. Circumstances change, who knows? Maybe I’ll be allowed to come back on at some point in the future. But we’ll see what happens. But thank you, everyone. Keep supporting our guys. You know, I’m off to see Sam again next month. I write to him each week. You know, I write to Sam as well. Keep supporting them. You know, they, they’re doing well, but they need to hear from everyone and I’m sure many people are doing that anyway. Yeah. Thank you, everyone. And I shall bow out.

 

Dave Gahary: Thanks, Bill.

 

Mark Collett: Thank you so much to everyone.

 

I will be back in the week for Patriotic Weekly Review with Blair Cottrell.

 

I will also be gracing your screens when the footage from the Awakening Conference comes out. I did a speech all about Sam Melia and about the heroes of the future, so look forward to that.

 

I will also be back with Natty next weekend for the Nationalist A-Team. He will have all the maps installed or else he will face my wrath! And we will have a special guest for that stream as well, No Chance!

 

So we will be doing plenty through the week.

 

And if you haven’t checked it out, I’ve got a video out this week. It’s a bit of a light hearted one. I was in a bit of a rush this week, so I’ve got a light hearted video.

 

So if you’ve got ten minutes to kill and you want to laugh, that’s up as well. It’s about Lauren Southern. So I look forward to seeing you same time next month and hopefully before then.

 

And as I said, I’ll be back on Wednesday. Thank you to everyone. Thank you to Dave, thank you to Bill, thank you, Sally, thank you to Natty, and thank you to everyone who tuned in, everyone who donated so generously. Thank you so much! Have a great weekend, have a great evening. Good night, everyone. I’ll see you all again soon.

 

Dave Gahary: Thanks, Mark.

 

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DOLO
1 hour ago
Thank you gentlemen.

@MilosM.
1 hour ago
The Death of the West by Pat Buchanan idk if it is any good.

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DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
np brother

@MilosM.
1 hour ago
oh, Mark was in Finland! Cannot wait to hear his impressions.

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DOLO
1 hour ago
Very good all things considered, i would be miserable lol.

@cheflad
1 hour ago
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@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
14

danzimmons
1 hour ago
1⃣4⃣8⃣8⃣

Natty
1 hour ago

@DOLO
thanks Dolo, i havnt read that one

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
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@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
Freedom of speech is a precious thing. It should have been part of European nations’ legal constitution. When bad actors are not allowed to monopolize the media, good actors have nothing to fear from allowing (((bad actors))) to spew their lies. You just answer them.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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Nordic Warrior
1 hour ago
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DOLO
1 hour ago
He personally had over 17 hand to hand fights lol

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
by Leon Degrelle

@Zach
1 hour ago
even if Politicians don’t listen to Petitions to release political prisoners they are still helpful.

@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
Jews don’t care about honor. They care about the collective power of the Jewish global nation-in-dispersion. The shame belongs to Churchill for allowing himself to be used against Britain, Germany and the entire White West.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@Zach
That’s greatly appreciated. Thank you for doing so. No worries. We all do what we can, when we can.

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
Campaign In Russia: The Waffen SS on the Eastern Front

@Zach
1 hour ago
but even if you can’t afford to donate theirs other ways to help I’ve also petitioned for Sam Melia and Sven longshanks immediate release.

Natty
1 hour ago

@DOLO
what is the book called? is it burning souls?

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@BillAtheling

danzimmons
1 hour ago
jews who compromised Churchill have zero honor.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@Natty
Indeed. We all do.

@MilosM.
1 hour ago
14 for Sam.

Natty
1 hour ago
i miss sam

@cheflad
1 hour ago
Free Big Sam.

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
Free Sam Melia

DOLO
1 hour ago
Great book sir, thank you.

@cheflad
1 hour ago
Deus Vult.

DOLO
1 hour ago
All his unit seems to do is go in hand to hand combat, it’s crazy.

@ArcadeOutpost
1 hour ago
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@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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@tuer
1 hour ago
interestingly many british vets became catholics

@Zach
1 hour ago

@ReedJohnson
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@BillAtheling
1 hour ago

@ReedJohnson
cheers mate

DOLO
1 hour ago
Should read Degrelle’s campaign on the western front, it’s incredible.

@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
Britain should have fought on the side of Germany against the USSR. If only alcoholic traitor Churchill had died of cirrhosis of the liver in the 1930s.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@RoryHerbert
You’re welcome.

mb14
1 hour ago
My great grandfather was in Verdun on the right side. he got shot thru the arm.

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago

@BillAtheling
Thank you for all your contributions on Book Club. Always a pleasure. Best of luck.

DOLO
1 hour ago
Big A let the Dunkirk lads go.

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
Thanks for the above link

@ReedJohnson

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1 hour ago
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jm
1 hour ago
Yes, Zoomer Historian is great !!!

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1 hour ago
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All political expressiveness is flatulence; censor a fart and it will come back as thunder.
1 hour ago
zoomer historian looks fantastic

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
Zoomer Historian | Do British Veterans Regret Fighting World War 2?

DOLO
1 hour ago
I had a Great Grandad die at the somme as well.

Reginald Collett
1 hour ago

@mb14
6’1

@Zach
1 hour ago
moneys tight for everyone RN.

DOLO
1 hour ago
Bulk buy them mark

danzimmons
1 hour ago

danzimmons
1 hour ago
lol nice Dave

mb14
1 hour ago
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How tall is mrs Mark?

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Patria
https://odysee.com/@DigitalAlexandria:5/Gilgamesh:9

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
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@Zach
1 hour ago
1
mark please Review Joe Haldemans Forever war. and did you ever hear from Jeremy from Kentucky Patrick slattery Co Host about doing a show on PA or RBN.

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1 hour ago

@DOLO
Which audio of Gilgamesh?

mb14
1 hour ago
Hey Mark.

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1 hour ago
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1 hour ago
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@tuer
1 hour ago
there was a hate crime in the mall of america, black man throwing a white baby three stories down, that was used race reversed in Wonder Woman 1984 – it’s just what a miss IDF does

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
A Time to Kill (1996 film):
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DOLO
1 hour ago
Typical

@W_Poe_White
1 hour ago
No one hates more fervently and maniacally than Jewish supremacists.

DOLO
1 hour ago
Yeah

@UltimateTruth
1 hour ago
They love a false flag!

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago

@Aunt-Sally
Just asking, I had a fox that broke into my chicken pen and killed all of them. My young children were upset for months.

)))Joker(((
1 hour ago
NKVD wore SS uniforms when doing the massacre

@ReedJohnson
1 hour ago
Hellstorm | PA Book Review:

@Aunt-Sally
1 hour ago
no Rory … I usually feed it

Long Knife
1 hour ago

@Natty
… I’m just want to examine the lampshade a little; that’s all … don’t tell me it mysteriously disappeared ?

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
Is the fox after your chickens, Aunt Sally?

DOLO
1 hour ago

@Natty
If you criticize the Shoes you hate the Jews!

Natty
1 hour ago

@LongKnife1934
a black and white photo of a pile of shoes isnt enough for you??? OY GEVALT

@RoryHerbert
1 hour ago
$3.00
Just over a year ago I was invited to a St. George’s Day dinner at my old regiment. One of the guest speakers was the Ukrainian Ambassador. Needless to say I didn’t attend but it just goes to show how the British Army, the Ministry of Defence and our government are in cahoots with one another.

Long Knife
1 hour ago
it’s ok to demand evidence

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1 hour ago
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@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
The vanguard

Natty
2 hours ago

@SublimeBraid
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

SublimeBraid
2 hours ago
they’ve dug 666 rabbi holes around the one truth, Jewish Supremacy.

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago

@DOLO
It saddens me that so many are taken in by him

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2 hours ago
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DOLO
2 hours ago

@UltimateTruth
He was in London on St George day with Isreal flag lmao

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago

@DOLO
I liked how he praised the American Freedom Party, didn’t like what he just said about Patriot Front

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
If it wasn’t for the rigid & sophisticated censorship algorithms Jew elites have set on YouTube, millions more would be wake right now. Their shills & controlled opposition assets (Robinson, Murray, Hopkins, etc) don’t help matters

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
ancient Persia allowed Neahmiah to rebuild their temple. israel likes Idea of Persia. Its why you see the Paivlvo royal line consulted in the news. Today, the blood soaked temple sacrifice probably going thru.

DOLO
2 hours ago
Mark Dice was calling Patriot Front feds today, they are hopeless.

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
well said

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
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DOLO
2 hours ago
lol

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
(((Nosferatu)))

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
ancient Persia allowed Neahmia rebuild their temple be rebuilt. Today, the blood soaked temple sacrifice probably goung thru

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@Elledee77
2 hours ago
you will all live to see concerning iran, it return to the name PERSIA. SEE trump cyrus coin. israel states they can wirk with Persia.

DOLO
2 hours ago
In the book the, monsters of babylon, he really tries to state how our ancestors have been made to look stupid, and that they were really just as smart as we are, but they just didn’t have access to the updated knowledge that we have in modern times, with modern science.

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
They are expert liars. They always invert the truth. Just look at how they’ve continually gas-lit & lied throughout the period of the Gaza genocide

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
jews and moslems. same thing

Natty
2 hours ago

@LongKnife1934
yeah just like in kuwait, testified to in front of congress……and was exposed as complete horse shit

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
… human nature hasn’t change

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
so real

DOLO
2 hours ago
I actually listened to Gilgamesh the other day, fantastic story.

@tuer
2 hours ago
some people seem to enjoy to hate on germans, ever watched sargoy of akkads video on the Suebi?

Long Knife
2 hours ago

@WhiteLightKnight
… did they take the babies out of incubators before throwing them ? :hyper_troll:

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
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DOLO
2 hours ago
The book was excellent in my opinion, highly recommended.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
The level of brainwashing is astonishing

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
When this book is REQUIRED READING in high schools, youll know America is healed.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
A junior colleague told me of a hospital in Poland he visited. There was a plaque telling of how German soldiers threw babies off the roof. I told him to wake up and think about the German people of today. They are no different and Germans in 1940s were human and would not throw babies off roofs.

@Zach
2 hours ago

@karuppusuriyan
they were Jewish Bolsheviks the ones on top at least.

@UltimateTruth
2 hours ago
Jewish control of western mass media has been their greatest weapon in terms of conditioning the masses

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
uh, source

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
or stormtroopers from star wars

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
For sure! Tikkun olam. looks great. whoever thought putting talmudic mandates in charge of fixing the world, was a good idea.

@CampsLindburgh
2 hours ago
ordered. look forward to reading

DOLO
2 hours ago

@Darth_Joker
\o

@Zach
2 hours ago
it’s so Ridiculous it should be easy to perceive as blatant propaganda. but many of the Teachers who taught it in school believed it was actually true. my area has a lot of Christian Zionists so I think they were just regurgitating propaganda that they were fed.

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
o/ guys

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2 hours ago
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@tuer
2 hours ago
had I to describe the English in one German word it would be “vermessen”

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2 hours ago
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@Zach
2 hours ago
being a Former liberal I used to think similar to Aunt Sally obviously not her real name. but similar propaganda here in America the German’s and Japanese Roasting Jewish babies on Bayonet’s. similar to the 40 beheaded babies the same people are claiming what a Cohencidence.

danzimmons
2 hours ago
the intelligence agencies have given billions to the true traitorous scum the reporter’s ie activists sellout pukes

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
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@tuer
2 hours ago
just think about how much more dehumanizing it is to call others cattle/goy by default and compare that to barbarian, infidel or even a rat (which is at least free)

danzimmons
2 hours ago
so clear to even the most gullible fecking normie, or should be

@SkipMeister
2 hours ago
Truth is, this Ukraine war started in similar fashion to German/Poland.

SURIYAN
2 hours ago

@Zach
id rather call them soviets rather than russians

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
moslems and jews. same thing.

@Zach
2 hours ago
oh there was plenty of pillaging and merrymaking of women to put it in a PG way. but it wasn’t the German’s dragging women and underage girls to the barns. it was the so called heroes the Russians and to some degree the Americans.

@tuer
2 hours ago
with the printing press, fertilizers and that car thingie that we shared with the world, it’s kinda stunning what propaganda can achieve

)))Joker(((
2 hours ago
…lol

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
it answered all my questions for sure. Diane King and Rizolis recomends if the book sold me

@Elledee77
2 hours ago

@RoryHerbert

The Awakened Saxon
2 hours ago
‘Find a reason to go to war with Germany.’ Letter from King George V to Sir Edward Grey, Foreign Secretary. However when the Foreign Secretary Sir Edward said that the cabinet hadn’t found a justifiable reason to enter the conflict, the King replied: ‘You have got to find a reason, Grey.’

@RoryHerbert
2 hours ago
The bombing of Dresden was clearly a war crime.

DOLO
2 hours ago

@Zach
My mistake. You could always pull a Bowden and whip out the magnifying glass lol

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2 hours ago
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2 hours ago

@SerenaJB
You’re welcome

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2 hours ago

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@Zach
2 hours ago

@DOLO
I’m aware this is available on Audio but apparently the fall of Western man isn’t.

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
Mark’s speech on Awakening:

Awakening III 27.4.2024 https://t.co/EThZ8q7y84

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@SerenaJB
2 hours ago
Good evening.

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago

@Zach
Indeed. That would be a good idea.

Natty
2 hours ago

@WhiteLightKnight
i cant see it lasting long

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago

@Natty
Nice one. I am hooked to his stuff.

DOLO
2 hours ago

@Zach
https://odysee.com/@DigitalAlexandria:5/MythOfGermanVillany:8

@Zach
2 hours ago

@ReedJohnson
I’m sure it’s a good read but unfortunately because of my eyesight I won’t be able to enjoy it. hopefully someone can make it available in a Audio Format for people with Vision problems.

Natty
2 hours ago

@WhiteLightKnight
was going to plug him at the end of the stream

@tuer
2 hours ago
ZH’s video on british vets is dope

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
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@Elledee77
2 hours ago
heres the cazm of America and Europe ww 2. When my Dad met my mother here in America, 50s, he told her he was a nazi. her ww2 info from America, caused that news to scare her.

@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
On youtube there is a mind-blowing content creator callled Zoomer Historian. His playlist of AH is absolutely incredible.

@Zach
2 hours ago
what I find aggravating is how the Jewish plot to kill millions of German’s by Jews. by poisoning the water is covered up by the media and on the rare occasions it’s talked about the Jews are portrayed as the Victims acting in self defense. a blatant lie but stupid people believe it.

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2 hours ago
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@WhiteLightKnight
2 hours ago
This book is fantastic. It’s such a great gateway to give to the Vagues.

@RoryHerbert
2 hours ago
$5.00
My maternal grandfather went ‘over the top’ on the First day of the Somme in 1916 with nearly 800 men whilst serving in the 8th Battalion, King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry. He was wounded himself but returned with less than 200 men on that fateful day. Something that he would never talk about.

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago

@Zach
I’m sorry. No, unfortunately.

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
im German Hungarian. my dad was a child in ww 2

@Zach
2 hours ago
I enjoy reading but it’s very hard on my eyes so I’m forced to use audio formats.

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
YES!!!

@Zach
2 hours ago

@ReedJohnson
is marks book available on Audio due to my bad eyesight it’s how I learn from books.

@Elledee77
2 hours ago

@Zach
2 hours ago
the forever wars is available on Audio it’s not an expensive book either although I prefer Audiobooks over reading due to my bad eyesight.

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
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@Elledee77
2 hours ago
and things my dad said. he was a child in Europe during ww 2

Avid Fan
2 hours ago
Sort your mic out Bill, ffs.

danzimmons
2 hours ago
“concentrate” jews

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
let me say, Diane made reference to a vid for zio deprograming. THAT IS A FACT. Deprogramming from what has been puked into the mind if the west makes PERFECT SENSE TO ME. ive dealt with these. My self also. thanks to the Rizoli infos, i made it out.

@BillAtheling
2 hours ago
it’s because I talk like an Italian, even on my own, waving my arms about

@Zach
2 hours ago
but I think Haldeman had unintentionally stumbled onto their plans for the military in the Future and it spooked them to some degree. but then again I can’t see the Future just making an educated guess.

@Zach
2 hours ago
Joe Haldeman that was his name I’ve only read the first book of the series. but I consider the gay parts to be a Warning of the Future of America rather than LGBT Propaganda. especially considering how his book was attacked by the media not to the extent of a WN book would be.

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
“big tiddy goth girls needed, stat”

danzimmons
2 hours ago
steady your mic cord Bill

@tuer
2 hours ago
so basically our hope should rest on the chinese avenging the opium shame

@EndJewishPrivilege
2 hours ago
I can hear what sounds like a stapler

danzimmons
2 hours ago
lol

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
the code is “send more beer”

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago
Sign-up to the PA Newsletter (scroll down):
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@WingITprod
2 hours ago
Morse code

Long Knife
2 hours ago
Finally, England, through the Balfour Declaration, took over the safeguarding of Jewish interests in all states. The Frankfurter Zeitung knew exactly at the time what it was saying when it declared that the Balfour Declaration had been the yeast of English victory.” ~ Alfred Rosenberg

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
yep! their walk and talks are awesome.

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
microphone is clicking

Long Knife
2 hours ago
It had allowed the opium trade to fall increasingly into Jewish hands. The Jew Lord Reading, whose real name was Isaacs, took care of important loan negotiations with the United States of America.

Long Knife
2 hours ago
It had handed over control of all financial transactions to Jewish bankers such as Rothschild, Montague, Cassell, Lazards, and the rest.

Long Knife
2 hours ago
“Before and during the World War, Jewish high finance had declared that its policy coincided with the policy of Great Britain. England had conquered South Africa for the Jewish diamond dealers such as Lewis, Beith, Lewisohn, and the rest.

@Zach
2 hours ago

@Natty
he was attacked by the Media back in the day as being anti gay. I’m familiar with the Future soldiers being gay and Lesbian but back in the 70s when he wrote the book. his critics said that will never happen mate now look at the state of the military.

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
Rizoli walk and talk are great

danzimmons
2 hours ago
Bill hold your mic cord please

@Thor’sHammer
2 hours ago
It was not for nothing that the German Emperor was known as the Emperor of Peace in World War 1

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
ive followed the Rizolis since 2014-2015. It was amazing to see Diane King and Rizolis contributions in credits! too.

danzimmons
2 hours ago
ThX for everything you do for our people Dave

@BillAtheling
2 hours ago

@RoryHerbert
hello Rory!

@tuer
2 hours ago
makes post ww2 british ‘comedy’ even more disturbing and disgusting

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@Elledee77
2 hours ago
what i loved mean

@tuer
2 hours ago
always been the bad guys …

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago

@Clasha
Hello and welcome.

@Elledee77
2 hours ago
YES!! THATS what i lived about it. it goes back to Germany becoming a nation, ww 1. And it provided photo DOCUMENTS

@Clasha
2 hours ago
Good afternoon

NOMATAWOT
2 hours ago

@BIANCA
Sir

Bianca Fights The Zombies
2 hours ago
sup bros

@PaganBear
2 hours ago
I wish there was a way to get it in Canada without the crazy shipping. It will cost over 65 USD dollars in Canada, I really want it though

@ReedJohnson
2 hours ago

@ItWasMadeUp
Thanks for your support.

danzimmons
2 hours ago
good point Aunt Sally

@AndyGreatstory
2 hours ago
:first_quarter_moon_face:

@ItWasMadeUp
2 hours ago
$5.00
Just a small donation to help keep the lights on. Thank you & farewell to Bill, and thanks for making me aware of Moneytree Publishing.

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2 hours ago
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@RoryHerbert
3 hours ago
Good evening ‘Bill the Academic’ ! :laughing:

meaty
3 hours ago
Brilliant book a must read for all.

@ReedJohnson
3 hours ago

@RoryHerbert
Good evening.

@RoryHerbert
3 hours ago
Good evening folks.

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3 hours ago
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Rebellious Goy
3 hours ago
Early 20th century, Germans were the USA’s largest ethnic group

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3 hours ago

@MilosM.
Evening mate. Unfortunately, couldn’t make it.

Natty
3 hours ago
howdy milo

@MilosM.
3 hours ago

@Natty
hey Natty

Natty
3 hours ago
i read it before i was redpilled

@Zach
, i thought it was just a boring version of starship troopers but its been a long time so i might re-visit it, dont they end up in a future where everyone is gay and brown??

@MilosM.
3 hours ago

@ReedJohnson
hello Reed. I asked where you been last sunday.

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3 hours ago

@AndyGreatstory
Thanks for your contribution.

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3 hours ago
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@MilosM.
3 hours ago
evening everyone.

@Zach
3 hours ago
the Forever wars is a good read it’s a 3 part series I believe. even though it’s Fiction the writer was a Veteran of the Vietnam War. and is a great anti war book discussing how wars only benefit the Rich. of course he doesn’t talk about who the Rich benefiting from wars are but it’s a good read.

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Part 01 — Cover text; About the Author; Preface; Chapter 1: The Myth of Germany as an Evil Nation

Part 02 — Chapter 2: Aftermath of the War in Germany

Part 03 — Chapter 3: The Jewish Factor in the War

Part 04 — Chapter 4: The Russian Revolution of 1917

Part 05 — Chapter 5: The Red Terror

Part 06 — Chapter 6: The Bolshevik Revolution Spreads Throughout Europe

Part 07 — Chapter 7: The Nation of Israel

Part 08 — Chapter 8: Jews in Weimar Germany

Part 09 — Chapter 9: Hitler and National Socialists Rise to Power

 

 

Part 10 — Chapter 10: National Socialism vs Communism

Part 11 — Chapter 11: Jews Declare War on Nazi Germany

Part 12 — Chapter 12: The Nazis and the Zionists Actually Work Together for Jewish Emigration out of Germany

Part 13 — Chapter 13: Life in Germany Under Hitler

Part 14 — Chapter 14 & 15: Hitler Begins Reclamation of German Territory; The 1936 Olympics

Part 15 — Chapter 16: “Anschluss” The Unification of Austria and Germany

Part 16 – Chapter 17: Germany Annexes the Sudetenland

Part 17 – Chapter 18: War with Poland

Part 18 – Chapter 19: The Phony War

 

 

Part 19 – Chapter 20: Germany invades France – The Phony War Ends

Part 20 – Chapter 21: The Allied Goal? Destruction of Germany!

Part 21 – Chapter 22: Germany as Victim

Part 22 (last) – Chapter 23: Winners and Losers

 

 

 

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The Myth of German Villainy: Author Ben Bradberry Interview — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

 

 

 

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Historians or Hoaxers?

House of Orwell

Misha: Surviving with Wolves or …

Bradley Smith’s Smith Report # 1

The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies

The Plum Cake

 

 

 

Auschwitz: Myths and Facts

Powers and Principalities XI – Ewen Cameron, MK-Ultra, Holocaust Revisionism — TRANSCRIPT

Tales of the Holohoax – A Historian’s Assessment – Part 1

The Holocaust Lie — Made in America

Probing the Holocaust: The Horror Explained — TRANSCRIPT

Jim Rizoli Interviews Prof Robert Faurisson, Oct 2015 — TRANSCRIPT

Holocaust Eyewitnesses: Is the Testimony Reliable?

Alain Soral – My Homage to Robert Faurisson, Oct 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Inside Auschwitz – You’ve never seen THIS before! — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

Amazion Bans 100s of Holocaust Revisionist Books!

AUSCHWITZ – A Personal Account by Thies Christophersen

Jim Rizoli Interviews Bradley Smith — TRANSCRIPT

London Forum – Alfred Schaefer – Psychological Warfare – TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report Interviews Eric Hunt — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio – Germar Rudolf – Persecution of Revisionists & Demographic Disaster – Part 1— TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice Radio: Nicholas Kollerstrom — TRANSCRIPT

Red Ice TV – Ingrid Carlqvist – Scandal in Sweden When Ingrid Questions the Unquestionable — TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report with Carolyn Yeager on Johnson vs Anglin debate — TRANSCRIPT

 

 

 

 

911 – The Jews Had Me Fooled: A Jewish Engineered Pearl Harbor

Organized jewry Did 9/11

Organized jewry Did 9/11 — The 16th Anniversary, 2017

Know More News — Christopher Bollyn, The Man Who Solved 9/11 — TRANSCRIPT

The Realist Report with Christopher Bollyn – Sep 2018 — TRANSCRIPT

Guns and Butter interviews Christopher Bollyn — The War on Terror – Dec 18, 2019 — Transcript

AE911Truth – Exposing Those Who Covered up the Crime of the Century – May 28, 2023 – Transcript

 

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David Kurten: Welcome back to the David Kurten Show here on Today’s News Talk, TNT. And it is fantastic to have back on the show Mads Palsvig, who is the leader of the Prosperity Party in Denmark. Mads, welcome back to the show.

 

Mads Palsvig: Thanks, David. Good to see you again.

 

David Kurten: Yeah, really good to see you again. Now I want to talk to you about some, you know, the general issues that you write about and speak about on X [formerly Twitter] and on social media, as well as leading the party in Denmark. And that relates to something that happened in the news in the UK yesterday. There was an incident at Manchester Airport where a couple of Israelis were stopped, you know, in a routine check. They were held for a couple of hours and then let into the country.

 

But there was a complete outpouring of the narrative that these people have been treated badly. They’ve been treated with “anti-semitism” because they come from Israel. But if someone came from Russia or Afghanistan and they were given the same treatment, no one would bat an eyelid.

 

And do you think that the narrative of anti-semitism is talked up more than you know, that actually there is anti-semitism in existence in the West?

 

Mads Palsvig: Oh, for sure, yeah. I mean, leading jewish scholars admit openly that it’s a tool they use to get sympathy. And they’re very successful in this. They managed to take over literally every institution in America. 85% of the Biden administration is jewish!

 

So they are very successful.

 

And you mentioned Russia. Now, my wife is Russian-jewish, so I’m of course knowledgeable about what’s going on there.

 

And if you talk about “anti-Russianism”, if such a word exists, most people are not aware that Russian people were collectively punished for Putin’s Special Military Operation in Ukraine by having all their assets frozen overnight. They didn’t even get 24 hours to transfer their money to Dubai or elsewhere. They just had all their assets frozen.

 

So you have collective punishments of all Russians. I cannot send a package to my mother-in-law. I cannot send money to my mother-in-law. I cannot travel directly to my mother-in-law. I have to spend 1,000 Euros to travel through Istanbul or Dubai to visit my mother-in-law, who is old, who is fragile, who is in hospital on and off. And this is collective punishment, but this is just Russians!

 

And then if you are reading the Talmud, then you would see that they write that a jew is worth 10,000 non-jewish! And a jew should have 2, 800 non-jewish slaves! These are not my words. These are written in the Talmud.

 

[02:55]

 

And I believe that some of the jews in Hollywood and some of the jews in the US administration are clearly Talmud followers, because the chutzpah to think that you are entitled to 85% of the good jobs. And that goes for not only the Biden administration, that goes for all the leading jobs on us universities, all the social engineering, the woke culture that is happening there, the anti-Christian and the hostility towards Christian people. Hollywood is also 85% Talmud followers. And it’s nonstop White guilt, social engineering, hate towards White people:

 

“Just open your borders. We need to get rid of the White people!”

 

And they literally, you can find so many examples of leading scholars, writers, politicians in the Knesset, talking openly about, you know, not only genociding the Amalek, they call the Palestinians, but actually all White people!

 

So I think it’s about time that all jewish people, all the good jewish people, and I know a lot of them, when you have a jewish wife, you get a lot of jewish friends. I love them! And I need more jewish people now to go out and say:

 

“Excuse me, maybe if we only 2% of them are America, maybe we shouldn’t have more than four to 5%, at most, of the leading post in the society?”

 

Because who’s talking about the diversity? It’s the jews who are talking about the diversity! It’s the jews who are using this tool of calling diversity by shaming and White guilt tripping the White people. Because we’re all behind the Holocaust! All of us! Not only some psychopathic Nazis, who wanted to loot jewish wealth, but all White people have to pay.

 

So you can have, … Well Americans don’t have free healthcare. If a jew is sick in America, they have free healthcare, even including organ transplantations.

 

So there is a rule for thee and the rule for the other people. And this is based on this philosophy of “collective punishment” that is inherent in the Talmud. This Amalek “kill all of them”. So if one Muslim commits a crime against a jew, then kill all of them! This is collective punishment. This is not Christian.

 

In Christianity, we have an eye for an eye, which means if someone is committing a crime, you can go for one person and only him. You cannot kill his wife and children! It’s not a Christian thing to do. And I would like to see a more Christian world order in the Christian societies, and a Muslim and a Hindu and a Buddhist in their societies, of course.

 

I’m not saying Christians should be running the whole show. I’m just saying in the Christian countries, I would like to see a Christian world order of love, of forgiveness, of all men are created equal, and never collective punishment, only the perpetrator.

 

And what we’re seeing is we’re having a Talmudian world order right now perpetrated by the 85% in the Biden administration, and that is hate! That is revenge! That is racial supremacy! That the only genocide we are allowed to hear about is crimes committed against jewish people.

 

[06:24]

 

The 50 to 100 million Russian, mainly Orthodox Christians that were murdered, we’re not allowed to talk about! Any other genocide it’s not important! Because there is a racial supremacy inherent in the Talmud!

 

And I would like to see all my jewish friends who might watch this and any other jewish person, who are lovely people, and I love jewish people. They’re bright, they’re fun to be with, they’re great people. But please, come on, now!

 

I mean, if you’re promoting diversity, then try to be a little bit diverse. Allow some Hindus, some Buddhists, and Muslims and Christians to be allowed to make some movies and run Wall Street, run the universities, get an occasional seat in the Congress and the Biden administration.

 

David Kurten: That is an absolutely extraordinary figure! 85% of the Biden administration being jewish. I didn’t know it was that high, being a Christian myself. And I say the majority of people in the United States, which obviously is the most powerful country in the West, would say they’re Christian.

 

But I think there is a very big blind spot here, because a lot of Christians would support jews because they think of themselves as living in a judeo-Christian culture, and think that Judaism is just, well, the Bible without the New Testament, it’s just the Old Testament.

 

And a lot of Christians have never even heard of the Talmud.

 

I mean, I myself, I’d never heard of the Talmud until three or four years ago. I wasn’t even aware of his existence. And I’ve now come to understand some of the things that are in it, and it’s absolutely horrific!

 

And it means that if you follow the Talmud, which was written in the first of the fourth century AD as a rejection of Christ, Christ is the fulfillment of the Old Testament.

 

And a lot of jews are Christians. There are messianic jews who follow Christ, have gone that way, but there are some who follow the Talmud. And it’s a horrific book, isn’t it?

 

And I think everyone should be aware of what’s in there. And you’ve put that very well and succinctly how that book is now having an incredible influence over Christian nations.

 

Mads Palsvig: Yeah, I mean the reason that you and I probably were not aware of that until, in my case, also three, four years ago, is because there’s a death penalty for a jew to tell a non-jew about the Talmud. They know that it’s not good.

 

And in the Talmud, they also write that you are free to commit any crime against non-jewish people, even on the annual Purim*. To take part in the annual Purim. I just posted a video of how they have kids dress up as Arabs and jews.

 

[09:21]

 

And then in the Purim, the kids in the schools are play killing the Arabs. I’m not kidding! It’s happening. This is what they do. And on the Purim, they have to go in, if they take part in that. I’m not saying in all synagogues, not in all synagogues, but in certain synagogues they have, when they take part in the Purim, in the ritual, annual ritual, they have to promise to break all promises to non-jews in the following twelve months. And that’s totally fine! I mean, come on now! That’s enough!

 

And there are so many assimilated, or whether there are religious or non-religious jewish people out there. I think, you know, you had a good run. We all love you. We’re not going to collectively punish you, all of you, for what some evil jewish people have done of crimes. We are Christian people. We will only go for those who actually committed a crime. We’re not going to go after his wife or his kids. This is not a Christian thing to do.

 

And then I have another thing I would like to say is the Germans have now been punished for 80 years.

 

I mean, can you find an inch, an ounce of forgiveness in your heart? Isn’t this enough? Isn’t it enough now!

 

The latest gimmick they now have found out is that now they have to be ritualistically humiliated during the European football championship. And the German men are forced to play in pink! Come on!

 

David Kurten: No! I didn’t know that. That’s terrible, isn’t it?

 

Mads Palsvig: It is so in your face! We own you!

 

Come on, that’s not good. We are nice people. And the jews people are nice, but we are all nice people. We should get along.

 

And the thing is, the minute Germany get their freedom again, then Germany and Russia will find out that they could benefit each other with Russian energy, German ingenuity, and we would have freedom, democracy and prosperity beyond belief!

 

If only we are allowed to not be socially engineered into hating each other and fighting all these ridiculous wars that already cost at least half a million young men their lives in Ukraine. It’s horrible!

 

David Kurten: Yeah, well, it goes back a long way, doesn’t it? I think we’ve had the World Wars of the last century.

 

But I think the greatest tragedy, or tragedies, of the last century is that there was enmity created between England or Britain and Germany and Russia and Germany and America and Germany, and now America and Russia and Britain and Russia. And we have four great Christian nations here. If we all got along and helped each other and supported each other and worked for creating prosperity and building a Christian society in a Christian world, how incredible would the world be? But this continual enmity being stirred up, and I speak against it. You speak against it.

 

[12:35]

 

I mean, look at the Russophobia in all of the mainstream media all over the West because of what’s going on in Ukraine. And you just think that this is perpetuating the tragedy and perpetuating something that is desperately wrong here, when we should all stop fighting against each other and start being friends again.

 

Mads Palsvig: I totally agree. And if I can add, this fight against Russians, it’s again a sanction against human beings of flesh and blood with a beating heart. It’s against the Russian people.

 

And also all us non-Russians who have friends and family we love in Russia. It’s not against the corporations. 97% of all western corporations who were there in March 2022 are still there. You can buy everything there! I was there last year visiting my Russian family, and everything is there. And the standard of living is just going one way. The sanctions are not working. The Russian people are hardworking. They don’t understand this hate. They’re very serious people. They’re ready to fight. They don’t want to fight.

 

But if you want to fight, they will hit back! And I have no shadow of doubt. If there is a war, they will win it. And I try very hard to show a third way. So you have, like, you have one way. You are either pro-China and Russia or you’re pro-NATO.

 

But I would like to say there’s actually another way. That is, there are some people who are running both, who are trying to stir up the beans and get both sides to fight each other.

 

And I think it goes back a long way. If you read books by Golitsyn and Bezmanov, they suggest that it was actually engineered in the Soviet Union back in the sixties. All the social engineering in the West, the youth revolution, the feminism, the attack on Christianity, was all engineered in the atheistic communist Soviet Union back in the sixties. These are first hand witnesses who were present in the meetings who say that.

 

And you can see it might have happened by other means, but there were definitely a motive. And they tried to do it and they’ve succeeded in doing it.

 

So that’s the third way I’m trying to say is that someone is trying to infiltrate and destroy our Christian nations and they’re trying to make us fight with Russia and China.

 

David Kurten: Yeah, well, I mean, I absolutely agree with you because, you know, looking back in history, you know, just very briefly, there was this hideous revolution in 1917. The Royal Romanov family was executed by, you know, Bolsheviks, and most of the Bolsheviks were jewish, Talmudist jewish people. And then revolution didn’t happen and take off in the West, so cultural Marxism was developed. You know, that goes back from the sixties, and then it also goes back to the Frankfurt School in the 1920s as well.

 

[15:35]

 

And one of the people involved in the Comintern at the time was Willi Münzenberg, who is reported to have said:

 

“We will make Western civilisation stink! We will change and undermine all it’s values and make life impossible!”

 

So that’s really horrible! It’s quite satanic! You’ve got these people who actually genuinely wanted to do that.

 

But Mads, I totally agree with you on all of these things. I wish we could talk for much longer because we’ve just touched the surface on this issue. And, you know what you’re saying about feminism being created. I mean, this is a cultural Marxist ideology where women are seen to be oppressed and they need to “rise up and smash the Patriarchy”.

 

And then you have homophobia and trans-phobia where the LGBTs are created as a group, and then they need to rise up and smash hetero-normativity and undermine Christian values, and so on.

 

So this is going on in multiple different parts of society and we can see it.

 

But anyway, Mads, thank you so much for joining me on the show today, and I really wish you well and the best with your Prosperity Party in Denmark. I hope one day we can be in the places of power and we can turn things around and we can get things back to normal.

 

Mads Palsvig, thank you for joining me here on Today’s News Talk, TNT.

 

[16:59]

 

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[* Purim: A Festival of Hate and an Insight into How Jewish Supremacists view Gentiles
March 14, 2014 at 12:10 am

 

Purim: A Festival of Hate and an Insight into How Jewish Supremacists view Gentiles

 

By David Duke. As the Jewish celebration of Purim starts on March 15, it is timely to ask what is Purim, why is it celebrated and what does it mean? The answers to these questions are shocking–and always covered up by the Jewish-Supremacist controlled mass media.

 

It is vital that non-Jews acquire a fundamental understanding of the unconscionable hatred engendered by this primitive Jewish celebration of atavistic hatred, murder and revenge against their enemies, a feast called “Purim”.

 

According to the Jewish religion, Purim means “Feast of Lots” which comes from the Jewish contention that Haman, who was the Prime Minister to the King of Persia, Xerxes (the Jews call him Ahasuerus), planned to kill all the Jews in the empire.

 

Xerxes’ wife was the Jewish Esther and she with the Jewish leader Mordechai interceded with the King, to have Haman executed and allow the Jews to exact revenge upon those they saw as their enemies.

 

There is no archeological or historical evidence for any of this other than the bloodthirsty writings in Esther and it’s admittedly Jewish version of the events. The book of Esther records that Haman along with all of his ten sons were hanged, and that 75,000 Persians were slaughtered by the Jews.

 

Interestingly enough, the Jews used Jewish influence (that of Esther) over a Gentile king to do their dirty work. In one instance, the book of Esther even frankly tells how the King was fooled into believing wrongly that Haman had cut down his beloved grove of trees.

 

Esther explains that Haman did not do this but the angels did it and appeared to the keepers of the trees as Haman.

 

 

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@ChefEarthenware
1 day ago
Excellent guest.
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@MrSillenomis
1 day ago
Hats off again to David for a great interview providing brave clarity on these issues
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@TheGreatestLieEverTold
1 day ago
God bless you David for doing this and thank you.
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@allenniumfalcon
1 day ago
Bang on.
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@sipocharles9180
13 hours ago
For years, I have questioned the statistical absurdity of Jews having a global monopoly on business, banking, and economics, which by extension means the world, but representing only 0.2% of the world’s 8 billion people.
Mr. Palsvig echoes this sentiment and articulates it excellently, aiming at problem root causes, so I look forward to hearing from him more.
Well done, David. I applaud your courage in tackling this sensitive topic.
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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
a racket of blackmail, extortion and payoffs
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@clivejohnston9894
1 day ago
Massive fan David – this guy is kicking ass 󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
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@DavidUK64
13 hours ago
Great job David and Mads!!
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@martingodden613
7 hours ago
my lovely wife is Russian.She is unable to transfer her Russian pension home to the UK.Something she worked hard for many years to receive.Collective punishment indeed.
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@ChrisLipthorpe
22 hours ago
I met Mads at an Ian R Crane AV conference in 2018. We need more politicians like him.
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@davestevenson9080
1 day ago
Fantastic push of the overton window there david. I don’t really believe there is a political solution but if heritage run in my area i’ll give them a vote
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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
you are wise to know the solution isnt political, its theological
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@a.j.b.8658
8 hours ago
I hope you can turn things around too, David! I’d be proud to vote for you.
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@bertibear1300
1 day ago
Good show.
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@mattfm101
5 hours ago
David knows how to touch on this subject without ever touching on it, it’s beyond words how impressive how he does it.
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@Thecountofstgermaine
1 day ago (edited)
Well done david you keep blowing me away with your guests, im a deep researcher into jewish malfeasance glad youve got the cojones to go there may god be with you always.
EDIT:if anyone needs documentaries or sources ill be glad to help
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@davidkurten1
1 day ago
Thank you
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@astroterf.
4 hours ago (edited)
Absolutely fantastic interview, thank you!
People have been encouraged and conditioned to be horrified by the Qur’an and Muslims while the (much worse) Talmud is kept quiet and if you talk about how much more appalling it is you’re ‘anti-Semitic’ – all by design!
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@gillps5130
1 day ago (edited)
Kim Iversen very recently, now this. At long last. Europa the Last Battle and ‘The World Conquerors’, Louis Marschalko fills much else in. I’m glad you mentioned the Frankfurt School, David, which was in danger of being left out.
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@GhostfaceAB
12 hours ago
Well said
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@fredfredericks3496
1 day ago
There goes your YouTube channel, David. At least I’ve got the TNT app lol
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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
i have been informing people for years. was banned from facebook for it for 5 years. now its meainstream
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@astroterf.
4 hours ago
You and me both!
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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
@astroterf. to the end, brother
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@astroterf.
4 hours ago
@romeisfallingagain
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@rl53
6 hours ago
Lebor Glas Clann is a good read David for an alternative history of ideologies & how they came about.

@dd7521
15 hours ago
Free health care?
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@kronos77
1 day ago
What was he saying about free health care for Jews in America? I dont get it.
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@lilleypops1868
13 hours ago
Apparently the US is paying for the health care in Israel and if they need to go abroad for treatment that’s paid for too. As for organ donation I believe they can accept organs but cannot donate organs themselves. I don’t know how true this is.
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@romeisfallingagain
3 hours ago
wait til you find out about their mortgages/loan arrangement lol “heter iska” lol

@earthstick
1 day ago (edited)
I’m not sure that the accusation of anti-semitism is talked up, and I am not sure it is wrong either. If I was a Jew who follows the Talmud, then it follows that I would think differently. But I am not. So it seems to come down to this: Some groups, be they racial, national, religious, will put people of their group before people outside their group. And it seems that either Christians never did that, or it has been lost. Christ said anyone can be saved, so long as they follow him, so it is primarily a religious group. But if this group does not put its members before those outside the group, then there is nothing really to it, and its own destruction is inevitable. So how does it avoid being a weak group?
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@gillps5130
1 day ago
A really good question. The nature of Christianity virtually prohibits exclusivity. It wasn’t always so, crusades, missionary work etc but we have evolved away from it while others haven’t.
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@earthstick
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@gillps5130 That’s it, exclusivity. It appears to be the anathema of modern Christian nations. But a group exists because there is condition that divides the whole into those inside and those outside the group. Without that condition there is no group, nothing to be within. That condition is critical, it must be studied, understood, and enforced.

@earthstick
1 day ago
@gillps5130 It’s more than just that though. Is it true that the Pope blessed weapons in WWI? Because Jesus being a peaceful man, objected to that. And it seems if the Pope did infact bless weapons/support WWI, then we can see a clear contradiction that had such consequences that I dare say it has greatly damaged Christian faith. But that begs the question of how do we overcome the violent people. You mention the crusades, a bloody period in Christain history and a rude contradiction. But nobody cared about that until now.
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@earthstick
1 day ago
@gillps5130 The recent chemical attacker migrant was accepted into the Christian faith, yet had a Muslim funeral. This question of exclusivity is central.
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@ayyleeuz4892
23 hours ago
all ethnic groups have positive and negative ethnocentrism, each to varying degrees. Christianity is a religion, and it is universalist.

@gillps5130
13 hours ago
I’ve tried to reply twice but each time they have been deleted.

@ayyleeuz4892
13 hours ago
@gillps5130 you must write as if you are talking to an extremely politically correct person whom you do not want to upset

@earthstick
10 hours ago
@ayyleeuz4892 But it still has conditions before someone can be regarded a Christian. If there is no condition then it cannot categorise, and thus does not exist.

@ayyleeuz4892
9 hours ago
@earthstick I don’t know what you’re referring to. you mentioned noticing in group cooperation between Jews. I explain that Christianity is a universalist religion, whereas Judaism has a “law of matrilineal descent” so only people whose mothers were Jews are Jews, and so their ethnocentrism is expressed quite apparently in the world.

@shrunkensimon
10 hours ago
I’d be very careful that you actually understand the full history before giving energy to something that may end up causing a future mass horror – are you certain you’re pinning the tail on the donkey.
Bare in mind you may be seeing what someone wants you to see, so they can remain out of sight while another party takes the flack.

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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
no, its called indepth study. everything said is correct. you just didnt get taught the history or theology by the controllers of the system
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@romeisfallingagain
4 hours ago
@shrunkensimon rothschild isnt the beginning of this. the talmud is, and its teaching. i have hundreds of books which cover the topic at hand. stop coping
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@shrunkensimon
3 hours ago
@romeisfallingagain Do you understand world history? The last 2000 years are about Rome, not Judaism.

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Tucker Carlson: The following is an interview with the president of Russia, Vladimir Putin, shot February 6, 2024, about 07:00 pm in the building behind us, which is, of course, the Kremlin.

The interview, as you will see if you watch it, is primarily about the war in progress, the war in Ukraine, how it started, what’s happening, and most pressingly how it might end.

One note before you watch, at the beginning of the interview, we ask the most obvious question, which is:

 

“Why did you do this? Did you feel a threat, an imminent physical threat? And that’s your justification?”

 

And the answer we got shocked us! Putin went on for a very long time, probably half an hour, about the history of Russia, going back to the 8th century. And honestly, we thought this was a filibustering technique and found it annoying and interrupted him several times, and he responded he was annoyed by the interruption.

But we concluded in the end, for what it’s worth, that it was not a filibustering technique. There was no time limit on the interview. We ended it after more than 2 hours.

Instead, what you’re about to see seemed to us sincere, whether you agree with it or not. Vladimir Putin believes that Russia has a historic claim to parts of western Ukraine. So our opinion would be to view it in that light as a sincere expression of what he thinks. And with that, here it is.

—————

 

Tucker Carlson: Mr. President, thank you. On February 22, 2022, you addressed your country in a nationwide address when the conflict in Ukraine started. And you said that you were acting because you had come to the conclusion that the United States, through NATO, might initiate a, quote, “surprise attack on our country”. And to American ears, that sounds paranoid. Tell us why you believe the United States might strike Russia out of the blue. How did you conclude that?

 

Vladimir Putin: [sighing] It’s not that America, the United States, was going to launch a surprise strike on Russia. I didn’t say that. Are we having a talk show, or a serious conversation?

 

Tucker Carlson: [laughing] Here’s the quote. Thank you.

 

Vladimir Putin: Because your basic education is in history, as far as I understand.

 

Tucker Carlson: Yes!

 

Vladimir Putin: So if you don’t mind, I will take only 30 seconds or one minute to give you a short reference to history. For giving you a little historical background.

 

Tucker Carlson: Please.

 

Vladimir Putin: Let’s look where our relationship with Ukraine started from. Where did Ukraine come from? The Russian state started gathering itself as a centralized statehood, and it is considered to be the year of the establishment of the Russian state in 862, when the townspeople of Nogorod invited a Varangian prince, Rurik, from Scandinavia to reign.

 

In 1862, Russia celebrated the 1,000th anniversary of its statehood. And in Novorod, there is a memorial dedicated to the 1,000th anniversary of the country.

 

In 882, Rurik’s successor, Prince Oleg, who was actually playing the role of regent as Rurik’s young son, because Rurik had died by that time, came to Kiev. He ousted two brothers who apparently had once been members of Rurik’s squad.

 

[03:47]

 

So Russia began to develop with two centers of power, Kiev and Novgorov.

 

The next very significant date in the history of Russia was 988. This was the baptism of Russia, when Prince Vladimir, the great grandson of Rurik, baptized Russia and adopted Orthodoxy, or Eastern Christianity. From this time, the centralized Russian state began to strengthen. Why? Because of the single territory, integrated economic ties, one and the same language after the baptism of Russia, the same faith and rule of the Prince. The centralized Russian state began to take shape.

 

Back in the Middle Ages, Prince Yaroslav the Wise introduced the order of succession to a throne. But after he passed away, it became complicated for various reasons.

 

The throne was passed not directly from father to eldest son, but from the Prince who had passed away to his brother, then to his sons in different lines. All this led to the fragmentation and the end of Rus as a single state. There was nothing special about it. The same was happening then in Europe.

 

But the fragmented Russian state became an easy prey to the empire created earlier by Gengis Khan. His successors, namely Batu Khan, came to Rus, plundered and ruined nearly all the cities.

 

The southern part, including Kiev, by the way, and some other cities simply lost independence. While northern cities preserved some of their sovereignty. They had to pay tribute to the horde, but they managed to preserve some part of their sovereignty.

 

And then a unified Russian state began to take shape, with its center in Moscow. The southern part of Russian lands, including Kiev, began to gradually gravitate towards another magnet, the center that was emerging in Europe. This was the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. It was even called the Lithuanian Russian Duchy, because Russians were a significant part of this population. They spoke the old Russian language and were Orthodox.

 

But then there was a unification, the Union of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland.

 

A few years later, another union was signed, but this time already in the religious sphere. Some of the Orthodox priests became subordinate to the Pope. Thus these lands became part of the Polish Lithuanian state.

 

During decades, the Poles were engaged in colonization of this part of the population. They introduced a language there, tried to entrench the idea that this population was not exactly Russians, that because they lived on the fringe, they were “Ukrainians”. Originally, the word “Ukrainian” meant that a person was living on the outskirts of the state, along the fringes, or was engaged in a border patrol service. It didn’t mean any particular ethnic group.

 

[07:43]

 

So the Poles were trying to, in every possible way, to colonize this part of the Russian lands and actually treated it rather harshly, not to say cruelly. All that led to the fact that this part of the Russian lands began to struggle for their rights. They wrote letters to Warsaw demanding that their rights be observed and people be commissioned here, including to Kiev.

 

Tucker Carlson: I beg your pardon, can you tell us what period? I’m losing track of where in history we are? The Polish oppression of Ukraine.

 

Vladimir Putin: It was in the 13th century.

 

Now I will tell you what happened later and give the dates so that there is no confusion.

 

And in 1654, even a bit earlier, the people who were in control of the authority over that part of the Russian lands addressed Warsaw, I repeat, demanding that they send them to rulers of Russian origin and Orthodox faith. When Warsaw did not answer them, and in fact rejected their demands, they turned to Moscow, so that Moscow took them away.

 

So that you don’t think that I’m inventing things, I’ll give you these documents.

 

[An aide comes and hands Putin a folder.]

 

Tucker Carlson: Well, it doesn’t sound like you’re inventing it. I’m not sure why it’s relevant to what happened two years ago.

 

Vladimir Putin: But still, these are documents from the archives. Copies. Here are the letters from Bohdan Khmelnytsky, the man who then controlled the power in this part of the Russian lands that is now called Ukraine. He wrote to Warsaw demanding that their rights be upheld. And after being refused, he began to write letters to Moscow, asking to take them under the strong hand of the Moscow Tsar. There are copies of these documents. I will leave them for your good memory. There is a translation into Russian. You can translate it into English later.

 

Russia would not agree to admit them straight away, assuming that a war with Poland would start.

 

Nevertheless, in 1654, the Russian assembly of top clergy and landowners, headed by the Tsar, which was the representative body of the power of the old Russian state, decided to include a part of the old Russian lands into Moscow Kingdom.

 

As expected, the war with Poland began. It lasted 13 years. And then in 1654, a truce was concluded. And 32 years later, I think, a peace treaty with Poland, which they called “Eternal Peace”, was signed. And these lands, the whole left bank of Dneiper, including Kiev, went to Russia, and the whole right bank of Dneiper, remained in Poland.

 

Under the rule of Catherine the Great*, Russia reclaimed all of its historical lands, including in the south and west. This all lasted until the revolution [1917].

 

[*Catherine the Great, was the reigning empress of Russia from 1762 to 1796]

 

Before World War I, Austrian General Staff relied on the ideas of Ukrainianization and started actively promoting the ideas of Ukraine and the Ukrainianization. Their motive was obvious. Just before World War I, they wanted to weaken the potential enemy and secure themselves favorable conditions in the border area.

 

[11:46]

 

So the idea which had emerged in Poland, that people residing in that territory were allegedly not really Russians, but rather belonged to a special ethnic group, Ukrainians, started being propagated by the Austrian General Staff.

 

As far back as the 19th century, theorists calling for Ukrainian independence appeared. All those, however, claimed that Ukraine should have a very good relationship with Russia. They insisted on that.

 

After the 1917 revolution, the Bolsheviks sought to restore the statehood and the civil war began, including the hostilities with Poland. In 1921, peace with Poland was proclaimed and under that treaty, the right bank of Dneiper River once again was given back to Poland.

 

In 1939, after Poland co-operated with Hitler – it did collaborate with Hitler, you know, – Hitler offered Poland peace and a treaty of friendship. An alliance demanding in return that Poland give back to Germany the so-called Danzig Corridor, which connected the bulk of Germany with East Prussia and Konigsberg.

 

After World War I, this territory was transferred to Poland and instead of Danzig, a city of Gdasnk emerged. Hitler asked them to give it amicably, but they refused. Of course, still they collaborated with Hitler and engaged together in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia.

 

Tucker Carlson: May I ask you, you’re making the case that Ukraine, certainly parts of Ukraine, eastern Ukraine, is in effect Russian, has been for hundreds of years. Why wouldn’t you just take it when you became president 24 years ago? You have nuclear weapons, they don’t. If it’s actually your land, why did you wait so long?

 

Vladimir Putin: Sure. I’ll tell you. I’m coming to that. This briefing is coming to an end. It might be boring, but it explains many things.

 

Tucker Carlson: It’s not boring. Just don’t know how it’s relevant.

 

Vladimir Putin: Good, good. I’m so gratified that you appreciate that. Thank you.

 

So before World War II, Poland collaborated with Hitler and although it did not yield to Hitler’s demands, it still participated in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia, together with Hitler. As the Poles had not given the Danzig Corridor to Germany, had went too far, pushing Hitler to start World War II* by attacking them.

 

[* WWII was started by Britain and France declaring war on Germany, after the German invasion of Poland.]

 

Why was it Poland against whom the war started on first September 1939? Poland turned out to be uncompromising and Hitler had nothing to do but start implementing his plans with Poland.

 

By the way, the USSR — I have read some archived documents — behaved very honestly. It asked Poland’s permission to transit its troops through the Polish territory to help Czechoslovakia. But the then Polish foreign minister said that if the Soviet planes flew over Poland, they would be downed over the territory of Poland. But that doesn’t matter.

 

What matters is that the war begun and Poland fell prey to the policies it had pursued against Czechoslovakia. This under the well known Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. A part of the territory, including western Ukraine, was to be given to Russia. Thus, Russia, which was then named the USSR, regained its historical lands.

 

After the victory in the Great Patriotic War, as we call World War II, all those territories were ultimately enshrined as belonging to Russia. To the USSR.

 

As for Poland, it received, apparently in compensation, the lands which had originally been German. The eastern parts of Germany, these are now western lands of Poland. Of course, Poland regained access to the Baltic Sea and Danzig, which was once again given its Polish name.

 

So this was how this situation developed. In 1922, when the USSR was being established, the Bolsheviks started building the USSR and established the Soviet Ukraine, which had never existed before.

 

[16:54]

 

Tucker Carlson: Right.

 

Vladimir Putin: Stalin insisted that those republics be included in the USSR as autonomous entities. For some inexplicable reason, Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, insisted that they be entitled to withdraw from the USSR.

 

And again, for some unknown reasons, he transferred to that newly established Soviet Republic of Ukraine, some of the lands, together with people living there, even though those lands had never been called Ukraine, and yet they were made part of that Soviet Republic of Ukraine.

 

Those lands included the Black Sea region, which was received under Catherine and the Great, and which had no historical connection with Ukraine whatsoever! Even if we go as far back as 1654, when these lands returned to Russian Empire, that territory was the size of three to four regions of modern Ukraine with no Black Sea region. That was completely out of the question

 

Tucker Carlson: In 1654?

 

Vladimir Putin: Exactly!

 

Tucker Carlson: You obviously have encyclopedic knowledge of this region. But why didn’t you make this case for the first, 22 years as president that Ukraine wasn’t a real country?

 

Vladimir Putin: The Soviet Union was given a great deal of territory that had never belonged to it, including the Black Sea region.

 

At some point when Russia received them as an outcome of the Russo-Turkish wars, they were called “New Russia” or “Novorossiya”. But that does not matter. What matters is that Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, established Ukraine that way.

 

For decades, the Ukrainian Soviet Republic developed as part of the USSR. And for unknown reasons, again, the Bolsheviks were engaged in Ukrainianization. It was not merely because the Soviet leadership was composed to a great extent of those originating from Ukraine. Rather, it was explained by the general policy of indigenization pursued by the Soviet Union. Same things were done in other Soviet Republics. This involved promoting national languages and national cultures, which is not bad in principle. That is how the Soviet Ukraine was created.

 

After World War II Ukraine received, in addition to the lands that had belonged to Poland before the war, part of the lands that had previously belonged to Hungary and Romania. So Romania and Hungary had some of their lands taken away and given to the Soviet Ukraine, and they still remain part of Ukraine. So in this sense we have every reason to affirm that Ukraine is an artificial state that was shaped at Stalin’s will.

 

[19:59]

 

Tucker Carlson: Do you believe Hungary has a right to take its land back from Ukraine, and that other nations have a right to go back to their 1654 borders?

 

Vladimir Putin: I’m not sure whether they should go back to the 1654 borders. But given Stalin’s time, so-called “Stalin’s Regime”, which as many claim, saw numerous violations of human rights and violations of the rights of other states, one may say that they could claim back those lands of theirs while having no right to do that. It is at least understandable.

 

Tucker Carlson: Have you told Viktor Orban that he can have part of Ukraine?

 

Vladimir Putin: Never! I have never told him, not a single time! We have not even had any conversation on that.

 

But I actually know for sure that Hungarians who live there wanted to get back to their historical land.

 

Moreover, I would like to share a very interesting story with you. I digress, it’s a personal one. Somewhere in the early eighties, I went on a road trip in a car from then Leningrad across the Soviet Union through Kiev, made a stop in Kiev and then went to western Ukraine. I went to the town of Beregovoy. And all the names of towns and villages there were in Russian and in the language I did not understand, in Hungarian. In Russian and in Hungarian. Not in Ukrainian, in Russian and in Hungarian.

 

I was driving through some kind of village and there were men sitting next to the houses and they were wearing black three-piece suits and black cylinder hats. I asked:

 

“Are they some kind of entertainers?”

 

I was told:

 

“No, they were not entertainers. They are Hungarians.”

 

I said:

 

“What are they doing here?

 

“What do you mean? This is their land. They live here.”

 

This was during the Soviet time in the 1980s. They preserved the Hungarian language, Hungarian names and all their national costumes. They are Hungarians, and they feel themselves to be Hungarians. And of course when now there is an infringement, …

 

Tucker Carlson: And there’s a lot of that, though I think many nations are upset about Transylvania as well, as you obviously know. But many nations feel frustrated by the redrawn borders of the wars of the 20th century and wars going back 1,000 years. The ones that you mentioned.

 

But the fact is that you didn’t make this case in public until two years ago, February. And in the case that you made, which I read today, you explain at great length that you felt a physical threat from the West in NATO, including potentially a nuclear threat, and that’s what got you to move. Is that a fair characterization of what you said?

 

[23:08]

 

Vladimir Putin: I understand that my long speech probably falls outside of the genre of the interview. That is why I asked you at the beginning, are we going to have a serious talk, or a show? [Tucker bursts out chuckling] You said “a serious talk”, so bear with me, please.

 

We’re coming to the point where the Soviet Ukraine was established.

 

Then, in 1991, the Soviet Union collapsed, and everything that Russia had generously bestowed on Ukraine was dragged away by the latter.

 

I’m coming to a very important point of today’s agenda.

 

Tucker Carlson: Thank you.

 

Vladimir Putin: After all, the collapse of the Soviet Union was effectively initiated by the Russian leadership. I do not understand what the Russian leadership was guided by at the time, but I suspect there were several reasons to think everything would be fine.

 

First, I think that then Russian leadership believed that the fundamentals of the relationship between Russia and Ukraine were in fact a common language. More than 90% of the population there spoke Russian. Family ties. Every third person there had some kind of family or friendship ties. Common culture, common history. Finally, common faith, coexistence with a single state for centuries and deeply interconnected economies. All of these were so fundamental. All these elements together make our good relationships inevitable.

 

The second point is a very important one. I want you as an American citizen and your viewers to hear about this as well. The former Russian leadership assumed that the Soviet Union had ceased to exist, and therefore there were no longer any ideological dividing lines. Russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the Soviet Union and believed that this would be understood by the so-called “civilized West” as an invitation for co-operation and association. That is what Russia was expecting, both from the United States and the so-called “collective West” as a whole.

 

There were smart people, including in Germany. Egon Bahr, a major politician of the Social Democratic Party, who insisted in his personal conversations with the Soviet leadership on the brink of the collapse of the Soviet Union that a new security system should be established in Europe. Help should be given to unify Germany, but a new system should be also established to include the United States, Canada, Russia, and other central European countries.

 

Tucker Carlson: Yep.

 

Vladimir Putin: But NATO needs not to expand. That’s what he said. If NATO expands, everything would be just the same as during the Cold War, only closer to Russia’s borders. That’s all! He was a wise old man, but no one listened to him.

 

In fact, he got angry once:

 

“If, (he said) you don’t listen to me, I’m never setting my foot in Moscow!”

 

Once again, everything happened just as he had said.

 

Tucker Carlson: Well, of course, it did come true. And you’ve mentioned this many times. I think it’s a fair point. And many in America thought that relations between Russia and the United States would be fine with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the end of the cold War, but the opposite happened.

 

But you’ve never explained why you think that happened, except to say that the West fears a strong Russia. But we have a strong China, the West does not seem very afraid of. What about Russia, do you think, convinced policymakers they had to take it down?

 

[27:29]

 

Vladimir Putin: The West is afraid of strong China more than it fears a strong Russia, because Russia has 150,000,000 people, and China has 1.5 billion population, and it’s economy is growing by leaps and bounds, or 5% a year. It used to be even more, but that’s enough for China.

 

As Bismarck once put it, potentials are the most important. China’s potential is enormous. It is the biggest economy in the world today in terms of purchasing power parity and the size of the economy. It has already overtaken the United States quite a long time ago, and it is growing at a rapid clip. Let’s not talk about who is afraid of whom. Let’s not reason in such terms.

 

And let’s get into the fact that after 1991, when Russia expected that it would be welcomed into the brotherly family of civilized nations, nothing like this happened.

 

You tricked us! I don’t mean you personally when I say “you”. Of course I’m talking about the United States. The promise was that NATO would not expand eastward, but it happened five times. There were five waves of expansion. We tolerated all that. We were trying to persuade them. We were saying:

 

“Please don’t. We are as bourgeois now as you are. We are market economy and there is no Communist Party power. Let’s negotiate.”

 

Moreover, I have also said this publicly before. There was a moment when a certain rift started growing between us. Before that, Yeltsin came to the United States. Remember, he spoke in Congress and said the good words, “God bless America!”. Everything he said were signals:

 

“Let us in!”

 

Remember the developments in Yugoslavia before Yeltsin was lavished with praise.

 

As soon as the developments in Yugoslavia started, he raised his voice in support of Serbs, and we couldn’t but raise our voices for Serbs in their defense. I understand that there were complex processes underway there. I do. But Russia could not help raising its voice in support of Serbs, because Serbs are also a special and close to us nation with Orthodox culture, and so on.

 

It’s a nation that has suffered so much for generations. Well, regardless, what is important is that Yeltsin expressed his support. What did the United States do? In violation of an international law and the UN charter, it started bombing Belgrade. It was the United States that led the genie out of the bottle.

 

[30:02]

 

Moreover, when Russia protested and expressed its resentment, what was said?:

 

“The UN Charter and international law have become obsolete.”

 

Now everyone invokes international law. But at that time, they started saying that everything was outdated. Everything had to be changed. Indeed, some things need to be changed as the balance of power has changed. It’s true, but not in this manner.

 

Yeltsin was immediately dragged through the mud, accused of alcoholism, of understanding nothing, of knowing nothing. He understood everything, I assure you.

 

Well, I became President in 2000. I thought:

 

“Okay, the Yugoslav issue is over, but we should try to restore relations. Let’s reopen the door that Russia had tried to go through.”

 

And moreover, I said it publicly. I can reiterate. At a meeting here in the Kremlin with the outgoing president, Bill Clinton, right here in the next room. I said to him, I asked him:

 

“Bill, do you think if Russia asked to join NATO, do you think it would happen?”

 

Suddenly he said:

 

“You know, it’s interesting. I think so.”

 

But in the evening when we met for dinner, he said:

 

“You know, I’ve talked to my team. No, no, it’s not possible now.”

 

You can ask him. I think he will watch our interview. He’ll confirm it. I wouldn’t have said anything like that if it hadn’t happened. Okay, well, it’s impossible now.

 

Tucker Carlson: Were you sincere? Would you have joined NATO?

 

Vladimir Putin: Look! I asked the question, is it possible or not? And the answer I got was, no. If I was insincere in my desire to find out what the leadership position was, …

 

Tucker Carlson: But if he had said yes, would you have joined NATO?

 

Vladimir Putin: If he had said yes, the process of rapprochement would have commenced, and eventually it might have happened, if we had seen some sincere wish on the other side of our partners. But it didn’t happen. Well, no means no! Okay, fine.

 

Tucker Carlson: Why do you think that is? Just to get to motive. I know you’re clearly bitter about it. I understand, but why do you think the West rebuffed you then? Why the hostility? Why did the end of the Cold War not fix the relationship? What motivates this from your point of view?

 

Vladimir Putin: You said I was bitter about the answer. No, it’s not bitterness. It’s just a statement of fact. We’re not bride and groom. Bitterness, resentment, it’s not about those kind of matters in such circumstances. We just realized we weren’t welcome there, that’s all. Okay, fine. But let’s build relations in another manner. Let’s work for common ground elsewhere.

 

Why we received such a negative response? You should ask your leaders. I can only guess why. Too big a country with its own opinion and so on. In the United States, I have seen how issues are being resolved in NATO.

 

I will give you another example now concerning Ukraine. The US leadership exerts pressure, and all NATO members obediently vote, even if they do not like something.

 

Now, I’ll tell you what happened in this regard with Ukraine in 2008. Although it’s being discussed, I’m not going to open a secret to you, say anything new.

 

Nevertheless, after that, we tried to build relations in different ways.

 

[33:51]

 

 

For example, the events in the Middle East, in Iraq. We were building relations with the United States in a very soft, prudent, cautious manner. I repeatedly raised the issue that the United States should not support separatism or terrorism in the north Caucasus, but they continue to do it anyway. And political support, information support, financial support, even military support came from the United States and its satellites for terrorist groups in the caucuses.

 

I once raised this issue with my colleague, also the President of the United States. He said:

 

“It’s impossible. Do you have proof?”

 

I said:

 

“Yes.”

 

I was prepared for this conversation, and I gave him that proof. He looked at it, and, you know what he said?:

 

“I apologize, but that’s what happened.”

 

I’ll quote. He says:

 

“Well, I’m going to kick their ass!”

 

We waited and waited for some response. There was no reply. I said to the FSB director:

 

“Write to the CIA, what is the result of the conversation with the president?”

 

He wrote once, twice, and then we got a reply. We have the answer in the archive. The CIA replied:

 

“We have been working with the opposition in Russia. We believe that this is the right thing to do, and we will keep on doing it.”

 

Just ridiculous! Well, okay. We realized that it was out of the question.

 

Tucker Carlson: Forces in opposition to you?

 

So you’re saying the CIA is trying to overthrow your government?

 

Vladimir Putin: Of course they meant in that particular case, the separatists, the terrorists who fought with us in the Caucuses. That’s who they called the “Opposition”.

 

This is the second point. The third moment is a very important one, is the moment when the US missile defense system was created. The beginning. We persuaded for a long time not to do it in United States.

 

Moreover, after I was invited by Bush Jr’s father, Bush senior, to visit his place on the ocean, I had a very serious conversation with President Bush and his team. I proposed that the United States, Russia and Europe jointly create a missile defense system that we believe, if created unilaterally, threatens our security despite the fact that the United States officially said that it was being created against missile threats from Iran. That was the justification for the deployment of the missile defense system.

 

I suggested working together, Russia, the United States and Europe. They said it was very interesting. They asked me:

 

“Are you serious?”

 

I said:

 

“Absolutely!”

 

Tucker Carlson: May I ask what year was this?

 

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Vladimir Putin: I don’t remember. It is easy to find out on the Internet when I was in the USA at the invitation of a Bush senior.

 

It is even easier to learn from someone I’m going to tell you about. I was told:

 

“It was very interesting.”

 

I said:

 

“Just imagine if we could tackle such a global strategic security challenge together. The world will change. We’ll probably have disputes, probably economic and even political ones, but we could drastically change the situation in the world.”

 

He says:

 

“Yes.”

 

And asks:

 

“Are you serious?”

 

I said:

 

“Of course! We need to think about it. I’m sold.”

 

I said:

 

“Go ahead, please.”

 

Then Secretary of Defense, Gates, former director of CIA and Secretary of State, Rice, came in here in this cabinet, right here at this table. They sat at this table. Me, the Foreign Minister, the Russian Defense Minister on that side. They said to me:

 

“Yes, we have thought about it. We agree.”

 

I said:

 

“Thank God! Great!”

 

But with some exceptions.

 

Tucker Carlson: So twice you’ve described US presidents making decisions and then being undercut by their agency heads. So it sounds like you’re describing a system that’s not run by the people who are elected, in your telling.

 

Vladimir Putin: That’s right, that’s right! And then in the end they just told us to get lost. I’m not going to tell you the details because I think it’s incorrect. After all, it was confidential conversation.

 

But our proposal was declined. That’s a fact!

 

It was right then when I said:

 

“Look, but then we will be forced to take countermeasures. We will create such strike systems that will certainly overcome missile defense systems.”

 

The answer was:

 

“We are not doing this against you, and you do what you want, assuming that it is not against us, not against the United States.”

 

I said:

 

“Okay, very well.”

 

That’s the way it went. And we created hypersonic systems with intercontinental range, and we continue to develop them. We are now ahead of everyone, the United States and the other countries in terms of the development of hypersonic strike systems. And we are improving them every day. But it wasn’t us. We proposed to go the other way and we were pushed back.

 

Now, about NATO’s expansion to the east. Well, we were promised no NATO to the east:

 

“Not an inch to the east.”

 

As we were told. And then what they said:

 

“Well, it’s not enshrined on paper, so we’ll expand.”

 

So there were five waves of expansion, the Baltic states, the whole of Eastern Europe, and so on.

 

And now I come to the main thing. They have come to the Ukraine, ultimately. In 2008, at the Summit in Bucharest, they declared that the doors for Ukraine and Georgia to join NATO were open.

 

Now about how decisions are made there. Germany, France seemed to be against it, as well as some other European countries.

 

But then, as it turned out later, President Bush, and he’s such a tough guy, a tough politician, as I was told later, he exerted pressure on us and we had to agree. It’s ridiculous! It’s like kindergarten. Where are the guarantees? What kindergarten is this? [chuckling] What kind of people are these? Who are they? You see, they were pressed. They agree.

 

And then they say:

 

“Ukraine won’t be in the NATO, you know.”

 

I say:

 

“I don’t know. I know you agreed in 2008. Why won’t you agree in the future?”

 

Well, they pressed us then. I say:

 

“Why won’t they press you tomorrow and you’ll agree again?”

 

Well, it’s nonsensical! Who’s there to talk to? I just don’t understand. We’re ready to talk.

 

But with whom? Where are the guarantees? None!

 

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So they started to develop the territory of Ukraine. Whatever is there, I have told you the background, how this territory developed, what kind of relations they were with Russia. Every second or third person there has always had some ties with Russia. And during the elections in already independent sovereign Ukraine, which gained its independence as a result of the Declaration of Independence.

 

And by the way, it says that Ukraine is a neutral state. And in 2008, suddenly the doors or Gates to NATO were open to it.

 

Oh, come on! This is not how we agreed.

 

Now, all the presidents that have come to power in Ukraine, they relied on electorate with a good attitude to Russia in one way or the other. This is the southeast of Ukraine. This is a large number of people. And it was very difficult to dissuade this electorate, which had a positive attitude towards Russia. Victor Yanukovych came to power. And how the first time he won, after President Kuchma, they organized a third round which is not provided for in the Constitution of Ukraine. This is a coup d’eta! Just imagine someone in the United States wouldn’t like the outcome.

 

Tucker Carlson: In 2014?

 

Vladimir Putin: Before that. No, this was before that. After President Kuchma, Viktor Yanukovych won the elections.

 

However, his opponents did not recognize that victory. The US supported the opposition and the third round was scheduled. What is this? This is a coup! The US supported it and the winner of the third round came to power. Imagine if in the US something was not to someone’s liking and the third round of election, which the US constitution does not provide for, was organized. Nonetheless, [chuckling] it was done in Ukraine.

 

Okay. Viktor Yushchenko, who was considered a pro-Western politician, came to power. Fine! We have built relations with him as well. He came to Moscow with visits. We visited Kiev, I visited too. We met in an informal setting. If he’s pro-Western, so be it. It’s fine. Let people do their job.

 

The situation should have developed inside the independent Ukraine itself. As a result of Kuchma’s leadership, things got worse and Viktor Yanukovych came to power after all. Maybe he wasn’t the best president and politician. I don’t know. I don’t want to give assessments.

 

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However, the issue of the association with the EU came up. We have always been lenient to this. Suit yourself.

 

But when we read through the Treaty of Association, it turned out to be a problem for us, since we had a free trade zone and open customs borders with Ukraine, which under this Association had to open its borders for Europe, which would have led to flooding of our market. We said:

 

“No, this is not going to work. We shall close our borders with Ukraine.”

 

Then, the customs borders, that is.

 

Yanukovych started to calculate how much Ukraine was going to gain, how much to lose, and said to his European partners:

 

“I need more time to think before signing.”

 

The moment he said that, the opposition began to take destructive steps which were supported by the West.

 

It all came down to Maidan and a coup in Ukraine [February 2014].

 

Tucker Carlson: So he did more trade with Russia than with the EU? Ukraine did?

 

Vladimir Putin: Of course. It’s not even the matter of trade volume, although for the most part it is. It is a matter of co-operation size, which the entire Ukrainian economy was based on. The co-operation size between the enterprises were very close since the times of the Soviet union. One enterprise there used to produce components to be assembled both in Russia and Ukraine and vice versa. They used to be very close ties.

 

A coup d’eta was committed, although I shall not delve into details now, as I find doing it inappropriate. The US told us:

 

“Calm Yanukovych down and we will calm the opposition. Let the situation unfold in the scenario of a political settlement.”

 

We said:

 

“All right, agreed, let’s do it this way.”

 

As the Americans requested, Yanukovych did use neither the armed forces nor the police. Yet the armed opposition committed a coup in Kiev! What is that supposed to mean? Who do you think you are? I wanted to ask the then US leadership.

 

Tucker Carlson: With the backing of whom?

 

Vladimir Putin: With the backing of CIA, of course! The organization you wanted to join back in the day, as I understand. We should thank God they didn’t let you in! Although it is a serious organization, I understand.

 

My former vis a vis in the sense that I served in the First Main Directorate, Soviet Union’s intelligence service. They have always been our opponents. A job is a job!

 

Technically, they did everything right. They achieved their goal of changing the government. However, from political standpoint, it was a colossal mistake! Surely it was political leadership’s miscalculation. They should have seen what it would evolve into.

 

So in 2008, the doors of NATO were opened for Ukraine. In 2014 there was a coup. They started persecuting those who did not accept the coup and it was indeed a coup. They created a threat to Crimea which we had to take under our protection.

 

They launched the war in Donbas in 2014 with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. This is when it all started. There is a video of aircraft attacking Donetsk from above. They launched a large scale military operation, then another one. When they failed, they started to prepare the next one.

 

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All this against the background of military development of this territory and opening of NATO’s doors. How could we not express concern over what was happening? From our side this would have been a culpable negligence, that’s what it would have been it’s just that the US political leadership pushed us to the line we could not cross because doing so could have ruined Russia itself.

 

Besides, we could not leave our brothers in faith, in fact a part of Russian people, in the face of this war machine.

 

Tucker Carlson: That was eight years before the current conflict started.

 

So what was the trigger for you? What was the moment where you decided you had to do this?

 

Vladimir Putin: Initially, it was the coup in Ukraine that provoked the conflict.

 

By the way, back then, the representatives of three European countries, Germany, Poland and France, arrived. They were the guarantors of the signed agreement between the government of Yanukovych and the opposition. They signed it as guarantors.

 

Despite that, the opposition committed a coup. And all these countries pretended that they didn’t remember that they were guarantors of the peaceful settlement. They just threw it in the stove right away. And nobody recalls that.

 

I don’t know if the US know anything about the agreement between the opposition and the authorities and it’s three guarantors who instead of bringing this whole situation back in the political field, supported the coup. Although it was meaningless, believe me, because President Yanukovych agreed to all conditions, he was ready to hold an early election which he had no chance of winning, frankly speaking. Everyone knew that.

 

Then why the coup? Why the victims? Why threatening Crimea? Why launching an operation in Donbas? This I do not understand. That is exactly what the miscalculation is. CIA did its job to complete the coup. I think one of the Deputy [Assistant] Secretaries of State [Victoria Nuland] said that it cost a large sum of money, almost 5 billion. But the political mistake was colossal! Why would they have to do that?

 

All this could have been done legally, without victims, without military action, without losing Crimea. We would have never considered to even lift a finger if it hadn’t been for the bloody developments on Maidan. Because we agreed with the fact that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, our borders should be along the borders of former union’s Republics. We agreed to that. But we never agreed to NATO’s expansion. And moreover, we never agreed that Ukraine would be in NATO. We did not agree to NATO basis there without any discussion with us! For decades we kept asking:

 

“Don’t do this, don’t do that!”

 

And what triggered the latest events?

 

Firstly, the current Ukrainian leadership declared that it would not implement the Minsk Agreements which had been signed, as you know, after the events of 2014 in Minsk, where the plan of peaceful settlement in Donbas was set forth.

 

[51:25]

 

But no, the current Ukrainian leadership, foreign minister, all other officials and then president himself said that they don’t like anything about the Minsk Agreements.

 

In other words, they were not going to implement it.

 

A year, or a year and a half ago, former leaders of Germany and France said openly to the whole world that they indeed signed the Minsk Agreements [first in September 2014] but they never intended to implement them. They simply led us by the nose!

 

Tucker Carlson: Was there anyone for you to talk to? Did you call a US President, Secretary of State, and say:

 

“If you keep militarizing Ukraine with NATO forces, this is going to get, we’re going to act?”

 

Vladimir Putin: We talked about this all the time. We addressed the United States and European countries leadership to stop these developments immediately, to implement the Minsk Agreements. Frankly speaking, I didn’t know how we were going to do this, but I was ready to implement them. These agreements were complicated for Ukraine. They included lots of elements of those Donbas territories independence. That’s true.

 

However, I was absolutely confident, and I’m saying this to you now, I honestly believe that if we managed to convince the residents of Donbas and we had to work hard to convince them to return to the Ukrainian statehood, then gradually the wounds would start to heal. When this part of territory reintegrated itself into common social environment, when the pensions and social benefits were paid again, all the pieces would gradually fall into place.

 

No, nobody wanted that. Everybody wanted to resolve the issue by military force only. But we could not let that happen! And the situation got to the point when the Ukrainian side announced:

 

“No, we will not do anything.”

 

They also started preparing for military action.

 

It was they who started the war in 2014. Our goal is to stop this war, and we did not start this war in 2022. This is an attempt to stop it!

 

Tucker Carlson: Do you think you’ve stopped it now? I mean, have you achieved your aims?

 

Vladimir Putin: No, we haven’t achieved our aims yet! Because one of them is denazification. This means the prohibition of all kinds of neo-Nazi movements. This is one of the problems that we discussed during the negotiation process which ended in Istanbul early this year. And it was not our initiative, because we were told by the Europeans in particular that it was necessary to create conditions for the final signing of the documents. My counterparts in France and Germany said:

 

“How can you imagine them signing a treaty with a gun to their heads? The troops should be pulled back from Kiev.”

 

I said:

 

“All right.”

 

We withdrew the troops from Kiev. As soon as we pulled back our troops from Kiev, our Ukrainian negotiators immediately threw all our agreements, reached in Istanbul, into the bin! And got prepared for a long standing armed confrontation with the help of the United States and its satellites in Europe! That is how the situation has developed. And that is how it looks now.

 

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Tucker Carlson: But what is, pardon my ignorance, what is “denazification”? What would that mean?

 

Vladimir Putin: That is what I want to talk about right now. It is a very important issue. Denazification. After gaining independence, Ukraine began to search, as some Western analysts say, it’s identity. And it came up with nothing better than to build this identity upon some false heroes who collaborated with Hitler.

 

I have already said that in the early 19th century, when the theorists of independence and sovereignty of Ukraine appeared, they assumed that an independent Ukraine should have very good relations with Russia. But due to the historical development, those territories were part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Poland, where Ukrainians were persecuted and treated quite brutally, as well as were subject to cruel behavior. There were also attempts to destroy their identity. All this remained in the memory of the people.

 

When World War II broke out, part of this extremely nationalist elite collaborated with Hitler, believing that he would bring them freedom. The German troops, even the SS troops, made Hitler’s collaborators do the dirtiest work of exterminating the Polish and jewish population. Hence this brutal massacre of the Polish and jewish population, as well as the Russian population, too.

 

This was led by the persons who are well known, Bandera, Shukhevych. It was those people who were made national heroes. That is the problem. And we are constantly told that nationalism and neo-Nazism exist in other countries as well. Yes, they are seedlings, but we approve them and other countries fight against them.

 

But Ukraine is not the case. These people have been made into national heroes in Ukraine. Monuments to those people have been erected. They are displayed on flags. Their names are shouted by crowds that walk with torches, as it was in Nazi Germany. These were people who exterminated Poles, jews and Russians. It is necessary to stop this practice and prevent the dissemination of this concept.

 

I say that Ukrainians are part of the one Russian people. They say:

 

“No, we are a separate people.”

 

Okay, fine. If they consider themselves a separate people, they have the right to do. But not on the basis of Nazism, the Nazi ideology.

 

Tucker Carlson: Would you be satisfied with the territory that you have now?

 

Vladimir Putin: I will finish answering the question. You just asked a question about neo-Nazism and denazification.

 

Look, the president of Ukraine [Zelensky] visited Canada. The story is well known, but being silenced in the Western countries. The Canadian Parliament introduced a man who, as the speaker of the Parliament said, fought against the Russians during the World War II. Well, who fought against the Russians during the World War II? Hitler and his accomplices.

 

It turned out that this man served in the SS troops. He personally killed Russians, Poles and jews. The SS troops consisted of Ukrainian nationalists who did this dirty work. The president of Ukraine stood up with the entire Parliament of Canada and applauded this man! How can this be imagined? The president of Ukraine himself, by the way, is a jew by nationality.

 

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Tucker Carlson: Really my question is, what do you do about it? I mean, Hitler’s been dead for 80 years. Nazi Germany no longer exists. And so, true.

 

And so I think what you’re saying is you want to extinguish or at least control Ukrainian nationalism. But how? How do you do that?

 

Vladimir Putin: Listen to me. Your question is very subtle, and I can tell you what I think. Do not take offense.

 

Tucker Carlson: Of course.

 

Vladimir Putin: This question appears to be subtle. It is quite pesky. You say Hitler has been dead for so many years. 80 years. But his example lives on. People who exterminated jews, Russians and Poles are alive. And the president, the current president of today’s Ukraine applauds him in the Canadian Parliament, gives a standing ovation! Can we say that we have completely uprooted this ideology if what we see is happening today? That is what denazification is in our understanding. We have to get rid of those people who maintain this concept and support this practice and try to preserve it. That is what denazification is that is what we mean.

 

Tucker Carlson: Right. My question was a little more specific. It was, of course not a defense of Nazis, Neo or otherwise. It was a practical question. You don’t control the entire country. You don’t control Kiev. You don’t seem like you want to.

 

So how do you eliminate a culture or an ideology or feelings, or a view of history, in a country that you don’t control? What do you do about that?

 

Vladimir Putin: You know, as strange as it may seem to you, during the negotiations in Istanbul, we did agree that. We have it all in writing. Neo-Nazism would not be cultivated in Ukraine, including that it would be prohibited at the legislative level. Mr. Carson, we agreed on that. This, it turns out, can be done during the negotiation process. And there’s nothing humiliating for Ukraine as a modern, civilized state. Is any state allowed to promote Nazism? It is not, is it? That is it.

 

Tucker Carlson: Will there be talks? And why haven’t there been talks about resolving the conflict in Ukraine? Peace talks?

 

Vladimir Putin: They have been. They reached a very high stage of coordination of positions in a complex process. But still, they were almost finalized. But after we withdrew our troops from Kiev, as I have already said, the other side threw away all these agreements and obeyed the instructions of Western countries, European countries, and the United States, to fight Russia to the bitter end.

 

[1:03:21]

 

Moreover, the president of Ukraine, has legislated a ban on negotiating with Russia. He signed a decree forbidding everyone to negotiate with Russia. But how are we going to negotiate if he forbade himself and everyone to do this? We know that he is putting forward some ideas about this settlement, but in order to agree on something, we need to have a dialogue. Is that not right?

 

Tucker Carlson: Well, but you wouldn’t be speaking to the Ukrainian president. You’d be speaking to the American president. When was the last time you spoke to Joe Biden?

 

Vladimir Putin: I cannot remember when I talked to him. I do not remember. We can look it up.

 

Tucker Carlson: You don’t [laughing] remember?

 

Vladimir Putin: No! Why? Do I have to remember everything? I have my own things to do. We have domestic political affairs.

 

Tucker Carlson: Well, he’s funding the war that you’re fighting, so I would think that would be memorable.

 

Vladimir Putin: Well, yes, he funds, but I talked to him before the Special Military Operation of course. And I said to him then – by the way, I will not go into details, I never do. But I said to him then:

 

“I believe that you are making a huge mistake of historic proportions by supporting everything that is happening there in Ukraine by pushing Russia away.”

 

I told him. Told him repeatedly, by the way.

 

I think that would be correct if I stop here.

 

Tucker Carlson: What did he say?

 

Vladimir Putin: Ask him, please. It is easier for you are a citizen of the United States. Go and ask him. It is not appropriate for me to comment on our conversation.

 

Tucker Carlson: But you haven’t spoken to him since before February of 2022?

 

Vladimir Putin: No, we haven’t spoken. Certain contacts are being maintained though. Speaking of which, do you remember what I told you about my proposal to work together on a missile defense system?

 

Tucker Carlson: Yes.

 

Vladimir Putin: You can ask all of them. All of them are safe and sound. Thank God. The former President. Condoleezza is safe and sound. And I think Mr. Gates and the current director of the intelligence agency, Mr. Burns. The then ambassador to Russia. In my opinion, a very successful ambassador, they were all witnesses to these conversations. Ask them. Same here, if you are interested in what Mr. President Biden responded to me. Ask him. At any rate, I talked to him about it.

 

Tucker Carlson: I’m definitely interested. But from the outside, it seems like this could devolve or evolve into something that brings the entire world into conflict and could initiate a nuclear launch.

 

And so why don’t you just call Biden and say:

 

“Let’s work this out.”

 

Vladimir Putin: What’s there to work out? It’s very simple. I repeat, we have contacts through various agencies.

 

I will tell you what we are saying on this matter and what we are conveying to the US leadership:

 

“If you really want to stop fighting. You need to stop supplying weapons. It will be over within a few weeks. That’s it. And then we can agree on some terms. Before you do that, stop.”

 

What’s easier? Why would I call him? What should I talk to him about? Or beg him for what?

 

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Tucker Carlson: And what message did you get back?

 

Vladimir Putin:

 

“You’re going to deliver such and such weapons to Ukraine? Oh, I’m afraid! I’m afraid! Please don’t!”

 

What is there to talk about?

 

Tucker Carlson: Do you think NATO is worried about this becoming a global war, or a nuclear conflict?

 

Vladimir Putin: At least that’s what they’re talking about. And they’re trying to intimidate their own population with an imaginary Russian threat. This is an obvious fact. And thinking people, not philistines, but thinking people, analysts, those who are engaged in real politics, just smart people, understand perfectly well that this is a fake! They’re trying to fuel the Russian threat.

 

Tucker Carlson: The threat I think you’re referring to is a Russian invasion of Poland, Latvia, expansionist behavior. Can you imagine a scenario where you send Russian troops to Poland.

 

Vladimir Putin: Only in one case. If Poland attacks Russia. Why? Because we have no interest in Poland, Latvia or anywhere else. Why would we do that? We simply don’t have any interest. It’s just threat mongering.

 

Tucker Carlson: Well, the argument I know, you know, this is that:

 

“Well, he invaded Ukraine. He has territorial aims across the continent.”

 

And you’re saying unequivocally you don’t.

 

Vladimir Putin: It is absolutely out of the question! You just don’t have to be any kind of analyst. It goes against common sense to get involved in some kind of a global war. And a global war will bring all humanity to the brink of destruction. It’s obvious.

 

There are certainly means of deterrence. They have been steering everyone with us all along:

 

“Tomorrow Russia will use tactical nuclear weapons! Tomorrow Russia will use that! No, the day after tomorrow!”

 

So what? In order to extort additional money from US taxpayers and European taxpayers in the confrontation with Russia in the Ukrainian theater of war. The goal is to weaken Russia as much as possible.

 

Tucker Carlson: One of our senior United States, Senators from the state of New York, Chuck Schumer, said yesterday, I believe that:

 

“We have to continue to fund the Ukrainian effort, or US soldiers, citizens, could wind up fighting there.”

 

How do you assess that?

 

Vladimir Putin: This is a provocation, and a cheap provocation at that! I do not understand why American soldiers should fight in Ukraine. There are mercenaries from the United States there. The bigger number of mercenaries comes from Poland, with mercenaries from the United States in second place, and mercenaries from Georgia in third place.

 

Well, if somebody has the desire to send regular troops, that would certainly bring humanity to the brink of very serious global conflict. This is obvious.

 

[1:10:41]

 

 

Do the United States need this? What for? Thousands of miles away from your national territory. Don’t you have anything better to do? You have issues on the border, issues with migration, issues with the national debt, more than $33 trillion. You have nothing better to do, so you should fight in Ukraine?

 

Wouldn’t it be better to negotiate with Russia, make an agreement already understanding the situation that is developing today, realizing that Russia will fight for its interests to the end, and realizing this, actually return to common sense, start respecting our country and its interests, and look for certain solutions. It seems to me that this is much smarter and more rational.

 

Tucker Carlson: Who blew up Nord Stream?

 

Vladimir Putin: You, [chuckling] for sure!

 

Tucker Carlson: I was busy that day. [chuckling] I did not blow up Nord Stream! Thank you, though.

 

Vladimir Putin: [chuckling] You personally may have an alibi, but the CIA has no such alibi.

 

Tucker Carlson: Do you have evidence that NATO or the CIA did it?

 

Vladimir Putin: You know, I won’t get into details, but people always say in such cases, look for someone who is interested.

 

But in this case, we should not only look for someone who is interested, but also for someone who has capabilities. Because there may be many people interested, but not all of them are capable of sinking to the bottom of the Baltic Sea and carrying out this explosion. These two components should be connected. Who is interested and who is capable of doing it.

 

Tucker Carlson: But I’m confused. I mean, that’s the biggest act of industrial terrorism ever, and it’s the largest emission of CO2 in history.

 

Okay, so if you had evidence, and presumably given your security services, your Intel services, you would, that NATO, the US, CIA, the West did this, why wouldn’t you present it and win a propaganda victory?

 

Vladimir Putin: [chuckling] In the war of propaganda, it is very difficult to defeat the United States because the United States controls all the world’s media and many European media. The ultimate beneficiary of the biggest European media are American financial institutions. Don’t you know that?

 

So it is possible to get involved in this work, but it is cost prohibitive, so to speak. We can simply shine the spotlight on [expose] our sources of information and we will not achieve results.

 

It is clear to the whole world what happened, and even American analysts talk about it directly. It’s true.

 

Tucker Carlson: Yes, but here’s a question you may be able to answer. You worked in Germany, famously. The Germans clearly know that their NATO partner did this, and it damaged their economy greatly. It may never recover. Why are they being silent about it? That’s very confusing to me. Why wouldn’t the Germans say something about it?

 

[1:14:02]

 

Vladimir Putin: This also confuses me! But today’s German leadership is guided by the interests of the collective West rather than its national interests. Otherwise, it is difficult to explain the logic of their action or inaction.

 

After all, it is not only about Nord Stream 1, which was blown up, and the Nord Stream 2 was damaged. But one pipe is safe and sound, and gas can be supplied to Europe through it, but Germany does not open it. We are ready. Please!

 

There’s another route through Poland called Yamal Europe, which also allows for large flow. Poland has closed it, but Poland pecks from the German hand. It receives money from the pan-European funds, and Germany is the main donor to these pan-European funds. Germany feeds Poland to a certain extent, and they close their route to Germany. Why? I don’t understand.

 

Ukraine, to which the Germans supply weapons and give money. Germany is the second sponsor of the United States in terms of financial aid to Ukraine. There are two gas routes through Ukraine. They simply closed one route, the Ukrainians. Open the second route. And please get gas from Russia. They do not open it.

 

Why don’t the Germans say:

 

“Look guys, we give you money and weapons. Open up the valve, please. Let the gas from Russia pass through for us. We’re buying liquefied gas at exorbitant prices in Europe, which brings the level of our competitiveness and economy in general down to zero. Do you want us to give you money? Let us have the decent existence, make money for our economy, because this is where the money we give you comes from.”

 

They refuse to do. So why? Ask them! [knocking on the table] That is what is like in their heads. Those are highly incompetent people!

 

Tucker Carlson: Well, maybe the world is breaking into two hemispheres, one with cheap energy, the other without. And I want to ask you that. If we’re now a multipolar world, obviously we are. Can you describe the blocks of alliances? Who is in each side, do you think?

 

Vladimir Putin: Listen, you have said that the world is breaking into two hemispheres. A human brain is divided into two hemispheres. One is responsible for one type of activities, the other one is more about creativity and so on. But it is still one in the same head. The world should be a single whole. Security should be shared rather than meant for the golden billion. That is the only scenario where the world could be stable, sustainable and predictable.

 

Until then, while the head is split in two parts, it is an illness, a serious adverse condition. It is a period of severe disease that the world is going through now.

 

But I think that thanks to honest journalism, this work is akin to work of the doctors, this could somehow be remedied.

 

Tucker Carlson: Well, let’s just give one example. The US dollar, which has kind of united the world in a lot of ways. Maybe not to your advantage, but certainly to ours. Is that going away as the reserve currency, the universally accepted currency? How have sanctions, do you think, changed the dollar’s place in the world?

 

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Vladimir Putin: You know, to use the dollar as a tool of foreign policy struggle is one of the biggest strategic mistakes made by the US political leadership. The dollar is the cornerstone of the United States power. I think everyone understands very well that no matter how many dollars are printed, they are quickly dispersed all over the world.

 

Inflation in the United States is minimal. It’s about three or 3.4%, which is, I think, totally acceptable for the US. But they won’t stop printing. What does the debt of $33 trillion tell us about? It is about the [?] emission.

 

Nevertheless, it is the main weapon used by the United States to preserve its power across the world.

 

As soon as the political leadership decided to use the US dollar as a tool of political struggle, a blow was dealt to this American power. I would not like to use any strong language, but it is a stupid thing to do, and a grave mistake.

 

Look at what is going on in the world. Even the United States allies are now downsizing their dollar reserves. Seeing this, everyone starts looking for ways to protect themselves.

 

But the fact that the United States applies restrictive measures to certain countries, such as placing restrictions on transactions, freezing assets, et cetera, causes great concern and sends a signal to the whole world.

 

What did we have here? Until 2022, about 80% of Russian foreign trade transactions were made in US dollars and Euros. US dollars accounted for approximately 50% of our transactions with third countries, while currently it is down to 13%. It wasn’t us who banned the use of the US dollar. We had no such intention. It was decision of the United States to restrict our transactions in US dollars. I think it is complete foolishness from the point of view of the interest of the United States itself and its taxpayers as it damages the US economy, undermines the power of the United States across the world.

 

By the way, our transactions in yuan accounted for about 3%. Today, 34% of our transactions are made in rubles and about as much, a little over 34%, in yuan. Why did the United States do this? My only guess is self conceit. They probably thought it would lead to full collapse, but nothing collapsed.

 

Moreover, other countries, including oil producers, are thinking of and already accepting payments for oil in yuan. Do you even realize what is going on or not? Does anyone in the United States realize this? What are you doing? You’re cutting yourself off! All experts say this. Ask any intelligent and thinking person in the United States what the dollar means for the US? You’re killing it with your own hands!

 

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Tucker Carlson: I think that’s a fair assessment. The question is, what comes next? And maybe you trade one colonial power for another much less sentimental and forgiving colonial power. I mean, is the BRICs, for example, in danger of being completely dominated by the Chinese, the Chinese economy, in a way that’s not good for their sovereignty? Do you worry about that?

 

Vladimir Putin: [chuckling] We have heard those boogeyman stories before. It is a boogeyman story! We’re neighbors with China. You cannot choose neighbors, just as you cannot choose close relatives. We share a border of thousands of kilometers with them. This is number 1 second. We have a centuries long history of coexistence. We’re used to it. Third, China’s foreign policy philosophy is not aggressive. Its idea is to always look for compromise. And we can see that.

 

The next point is as follows. We are always told the same boogeyman story. And here it goes again through an euphemistic form. But it is still the same boogeyman’s story. The co-operation with China keeps increasing. The pace at which China’s co-operation with Europe is growing is higher and greater than that of the growth of Chinese-Russian co-operation. Ask Europeans. Aren’t they afraid? They might be? I don’t know. But they are still trying to access China’s market at all costs, especially now that they are facing economic problems. Chinese businesses are also exploring the European market.

 

Do Chinese businesses have small presence in the United States? Yes. The political decisions are such that they are trying to limit their co-operation with China. It is to your own detriment, Mr. Tucker, that you are limiting co-operation with China. You are hurting yourself. It is a delicate matter, and there are no silver bullet solutions, just as it is with the dollar.

 

So before introducing any illegitimate sanctions, illegitimate in terms of the Charter of the United nations, one should think very carefully. For decision makers, this appears to be a problem.

 

Tucker Carlson: So you said a moment ago that the world would be a lot better if it weren’t broken into competing alliances, if there was co-operation globally.

 

One of the reasons you don’t have that is because the current American administration is dead set against you. Do you think if there were a new administration after Joe Biden that you would be able to re-establish communication with the US government? Or does it not matter who the president is?

 

Vladimir Putin: I will tell you, but let me finish the previous thought.

 

We, together with my colleague and friend President XI Jinping, set a goal to reach $200 billion of mutual trade with China this year. We have exceeded this level. According to our figures, our bilateral trade with China totals already 230,000,000,000. And the Chinese statistics says it is $240,000,000,000. One more important thing, our trade is well balanced, mutually complementary in high tech, energy, scientific research and development. It is very balanced.

 

As for BRICS, where Russia took over the presidency this year, the BRICS countries are, by and large, developing very rapidly. Look, if memory serves me right, back in 1992, the share of the G7 countries in the world economy amounted to 47%, whereas in 2022 it was down to, I think, a little over 30%. The BRICS countries accounted for only 16% in 1992, but now their share is greater than that of the G7. It has nothing to do with the events in Ukraine. This is due to the trends of global development and world economy, as I mentioned just now. And this is inevitable. This will keep happening. It is like the rise of the sun. You cannot prevent the sun from rising. You have to adapt to it.

 

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How do the United States adapt? With the help of force, sanctions, pressure, bombings and use of armed forces. This is about self conceit. Your political establishment does not understand that the world is changing under objective circumstances. And in order to preserve your level, even if someone aspires, pardon me, to the level of dominance, you have to make the right decisions in a competent and timely manner. Such brutal actions, including with regard to Russia, and say, other countries, are counterproductive. This is an obvious fact. It has already become evident.

 

You just asked me if another leader comes and changes something. It is not about the leader. It is not about the personality of a particular person. I had a very good relationship with, say, Bush. I know that in the United States, he was portrayed as some kind of a country boy who does not understand much. I assure you that this is not the case. I think he made a lot of mistakes with regard to Russia, too. I told you about 2008 and the decision in Bucharest to open the NATO’s doors to for Ukraine and so on. That happened during his presidency. He actually exercised pressure on the Europeans.

 

But in general, on a personal, human level, I had a very good relationship with him. He was no worse than any other American, or Russian, or European politician. I assure you he understood what he was doing as well as others. I had such personal relationship with Trump as well.

 

It is not about the personality of the leader, it is about the elite’s mindset. If the idea of domination at any cost, based also on forceful actions, dominates the American society, nothing will change. It will only get worse. But if in the end, one comes to the awareness that the world has been changing due to the objective circumstances, and that one should be able to adapt to them in time, using the advantages that the US still has today, then perhaps something may change.

 

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Look, China’s economy has become the first economy in the world in purchasing power parity. In terms of volume it overtook the US a long time ago. The USA comes second, then India, one and a half billion people, and then Japan, with Russia in the fifth place. Russia was the first economy in Europe last year despite all the sanctions and restrictions. Is it normal from your point of view? Sanctions, restrictions, impossibility of payments in dollars, being cut off from Swift services*, sanctions against our ships carrying oil, sanctions against airplanes, sanctions in everything, everywhere!

 

[* The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (Swift), legally S.W.I.F.T. SC, is a Belgian banking cooperative providing services related to the execution of financial transactions and payments between limited banks worldwide.]

 

The largest number of sanctions in the world which are applied, are applied against Russia. And we have become Europe’s first economy during this time. The tools that us uses don’t work well. One has to think about what to do. If this realization comes to the ruling elites, then yes, then the first person of the state will act in anticipation of what the voters and the people who make decisions at various levels expect from this person. Then maybe something will change.

 

Tucker Carlson: But you’re describing two different systems. You say that the leader acts in the interest of the voters, but you also say these decisions are not made by the leader, they’re made by the ruling classes. You’ve run this country for so long, you’ve known all these American presidents. What are those power centers in the United States, do you think? Like, who actually makes the decisions?

 

Vladimir Putin: I don’t know! America is a complex country. Conservative on one hand, rapidly changing on the other. It’s not easy for us to sort it all out. Who makes decisions in the elections? Is it possible to understand this when each state has its own legislation, each state regulates itself. Someone can be excluded from elections at the state level. It is a two stage electoral system. It is very difficult for us to understand it.

 

Certainly there are two parties that are dominant, the Republicans and the Democrats. And within this party system, the centers that make decisions, that prepare decisions.

 

Then look, why, in my opinion, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, such an erroneous, crude, completely unjustified policy of pressure was pursued against Russia.

 

After all, this is a policy of pressure. NATO expansion, support for the separatists and caucuses, creation of a missile defense system. These are all elements of pressure. Pressure! Pressure! Pressure! Then dragging Ukraine into NATO is all about pressure! Pressure! Pressure! Why? I think, among other things, because excessive production capacities were created. During the confrontation with the Soviet Union there were many centers created and specialists on the Soviet Union who could not do anything else. They convinced the political leadership that it is necessary to continue chiseling Russia, to try to break it up, to create on this territory several quasi state entities and to subdue them in divided form to use their combined potential for the future struggle with China. This is a mistake, including the excessive potential of those who worked for the confrontation with the Soviet Union. It is necessary to get rid of this. There should be new, fresh forces. People who look into the future and understand what is happening in the world.

 

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Look at how Indonesia is developing. 600 million people. Where can we get away from that? Nowhere! We just have to assume that Indonesia will enter. It is already in the club of the world’s leading economies, no matter who likes it or dislikes it.

 

Yes, we understand and are aware that in the United States, despite all the economic problems, the situation is still normal with the economy growing decently. The GDP is growing by 2.5%, if I’m not mistaken. But if we want to ensure the future, then we need to change our approach to what is changing. As I already said, the world would nevertheless change, regardless of how the developments in Ukraine end.

 

The world is changing. In the United States themselves, experts are writing that the United States are nonetheless gradually changing their position in the world. It is your experts who write that. I just read them. The only question is how this would happen? Painfully and quickly or gently and gradually? And this is written by people who are not antiamerican. They simply follow global development trends. That’s it.

 

And in order to assess them and change policies, we need people who think, look forward, can analyze and recommend certain decisions at the level of political leaders.

 

Tucker Carlson: I just have to ask. You’ve said clearly that NATO expansion eastward is a violation of the promise you all were made in 1990. It’s a threat to your country. Right before you sent troops into Ukraine, the Vice President of the United States went to the Munich Security Conference and encouraged the president of Ukraine to join NATO. Do you think that was an effort to provoke you into military action?

 

Vladimir Putin: I repeat once again, we have repeatedly, repeatedly proposed to seek a solution to the problems that arose in Ukraine after 2014 coup d’etat, through peaceful means. But no one listened to us.

 

And moreover, the Ukrainian leaders who were under the complete US control suddenly declared that they would not comply with the Minsk Agreements. They disliked everything there and continued military activity in that territory.

 

And in parallel, that territory was being exploited by NATO military structures, under the guise of various personnel training and retraining centers. They essentially begun to create bases there. That’s all.

 

Ukraine announced that the Russians were a non-titular nationality while passing the laws that limit the rights of non-titular nationalities in Ukraine. Ukraine, having received all these southeastern territories as a gift from the Russian people, suddenly announced that the Russians were a non-titular nationality in that territory. Is that normal?

 

All this put together led to the decision to end the war that neo-Nazis started in Ukraine in 2014.

 

Tucker Carlson: Do you think Zelensky has the freedom to negotiate a settlement to this conflict?

 

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Vladimir Putin: I don’t know the details. Of course it’s difficult for me to judge.

 

But I believe he has, in any case, he used to have. His father fought against the fascists Nazis during World War II. I once talked to him about this. I said:

 

“Volodymyr, what are you doing? Why are you supporting neo-Nazis in Ukraine today, while your father fought against fascism? He was a frontline soldier.”

 

I will not tell you what he answered. This is a separate topic and I think it’s incorrect for me to do so.

 

But as to the freedom of choice, why not? He came to power on the expectations of Ukrainian people that he would lead Ukraine to peace. He talked about this. It was thanks to this that he won the elections overwhelmingly.

 

But then when he came to power, in my opinion, he realized two things.

 

Firstly, it is better not to clash with neo-Nazis and nationalists because they are aggressive and very active. You can expect anything from them.

 

And secondly, the US led West supports them and will always support those who antagonize with Russia. It is beneficial and safe. So he took the relevant position despite promising his people to end the war in Ukraine. He deceived his voters.

 

Tucker Carlson: But do you think at this point, as of February 2024, he has the latitude, the freedom to speak with you or your government directly about putting an end to this, which clearly isn’t helping his country or the world? Can he do that, do you think?

 

Vladimir Putin: Why not? He considers himself head of state. He won the elections. Although we believe in Russia that the coup d’eta is the primary source of power for everything that happened after 2014. And in this sense, even today, government is flawed. But he considers himself the president and he is recognized by the United States, all of Europe and practically the rest of the world in such a capacity. Why not? He can. We negotiated with Ukraine in Istanbul. We agreed. He was aware of this.

 

Moreover, the negotiation group leader, Mr. Arakhamia is his last name, I believe still has the faction of the ruling party, the party of the president in the Rada. He still has the presidential faction in the Rada, the country’s Parliament. He still sits there. He even put his preliminary signature on the document I am telling you about.

 

But then he publicly stated to the whole world:

 

“We were ready to sign this document, but Mr. Johnson, then the prime minister of Britain, came and dissuaded us from doing this, saying it was better to fight Russia. They would give everything needed for us to return what was lost during the clashes with Russia. And we agreed with this proposal.”

 

Look, his statement has been published. He said it publicly. Can they return to this or not? The question is, do they want it or not?

 

Further on, the president of Ukraine issued a decree prohibiting negotiations with us. Let him cancel that decree, and that’s it. We have never refused negotiations. Indeed, we hear all the time:

 

“Is Russia ready?”

 

Yes. We have not refused. It was them who publicly refused. Well, let him cancel his decree and enter into negotiations. We have never refused.

 

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And the fact that they obeyed the demand or persuasion of Mr. Johnson, the former prime minister of Great Britain, seems ridiculous and very sad to me. Because, as Mr. Arakhamia put it:

 

“We could have stopped those hostilities with war a year and a half ago already. But the British persuaded us and we refused this.”

 

Where is Mr. Johnson now? And the war continues.

 

Tucker Carlson: That’s a good question. Where do you think he is and why did he do that?

 

Vladimir Putin: Hell knows! I don’t understand it myself. There was a general starting point. For some reason, everyone had the illusion that Russia could be defeated on the battlefield, because of arrogance, because of a pure heart, but not because of a great mind.

 

Tucker Carlson: You’ve described the connection between Russia and Ukraine. You’ve described Russia itself a couple of times as Orthodox. That’s central to your understanding of Russia. You’ve said you’re Orthodox. What does that mean for you? You’re a Christian leader by your own description, so what effect does that have on you?

 

Vladimir Putin: You know, as I already mentioned, in 988, Prince Vladimir himself was baptized, following the example of his grandmother, Princess Olga.

 

And then he baptized his squad. And then gradually, over the course of several years, he baptized all the Rus. It was a lengthy process, from pagans to Christians. It took many years. But in the end, this orthodoxy, Eastern Christianity, deeply rooted itself in the consciousness of the Russian people. When Russia expanded and absorbed other nations who profess Islam, Buddhism and Judaism, Russia has always been very loyal to those people who profess other religions. This is her strength. This is absolutely clear!

 

And the fact is that the main postulates, main values are very similar, not to say the same in all world religions I’ve just mentioned, which are the traditional religions of the Russian Federation, Russia.

 

By the way, Russian authorities were always very careful about the culture and religion of those people who came into the Russian Empire. This, in my opinion, forms the basis of both security and stability of the Russian statehood. All the peoples inhabiting Russia basically consider it their motherhood. If, say, people move over to you or to Europe from Latin America, an even clearer and more understandable example, people come, but yet they have come to you or to European countries from their historical homeland. And people who profess different religions in Russia consider Russia their motherland. They have no other motherland. We are together. This is one big family and our traditional values are very similar.

 

I’ve just mentioned one big family, but everyone has his her own family. And this is the basis of our society. And if we say that the motherland and the family are specifically connected with each other. It is indeed the case, since it is impossible to ensure a normal future for our children and our families unless we ensure a normal, sustainable future for the entire country, for the motherland. That is why patriotic sentiment is so strong in Russia.

 

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Tucker Carlson: Can I say this. The one way in which the religions are different is that Christianity is specifically a nonviolent religion. Jesus says:

 

“Turn the other cheek, don’t kill.”

 

How can a leader who has to kill, of any country, how can a leader be a Christian? How do you reconcile that to yourself?

 

Vladimir Putin: It is very easy. When it comes to protecting oneself and one’s family, one’s homeland. We won’t attack anyone.

 

When did the developments in Ukraine start? Since the coup d’etat and the hostilities in Donbas began, that’s when they started. And we’re protecting our people, ourselves, our homeland and our future.

 

As for religion in general, it’s not about external manifestations. It’s not about going to church every day or banging your head on the floor. It is in the heart. And our culture is so human oriented. Dostoevsky, who was very well known in the West, and the genius of Russian culture, Russian literature, spoke a lot about this, about the Russian soul.

 

After all, Western society is more pragmatic. Russian people think more about the eternal, about moral values. I don’t know, maybe you won’t agree with me, but Western culture is more pragmatic, after all. I’m not saying this is bad. It makes it possible for today’s golden billion to achieve good success in production, even in science and so on.

 

There’s nothing wrong with that. I’m just saying that we kind of look the same, but own minds, …

 

Tucker Carlson: So do you see the supernatural at work? As you look out across what’s happening in the world now, do you see God at work? Do you ever think to yourself:

 

“These are forces that are not human?”

 

Vladimir Putin: No, to be honest, I don’t think so. my opinion is that the development of the world community is in accordance with inherent laws and those laws are what they are. It’s always been this way in the history of mankind. Some nations and countries rose, became stronger and more numerous, and then left the international stage, losing the status they had been accustomed to.

 

There is probably no need for me to give examples, but we could start with with Genghis Khan and horde conquers, the Golden Horde and then end with the Roman Empire. It seems that there has never been anything like the Roman Empire in the history of mankind.

 

Nevertheless, the potential of the barbarians gradually grew, as did their population. In general the barbarians were getting stronger and begun to develop economically, as we would say today. This eventually led to the collapse of the Roman Empire and the regime imposed by the Romans.

 

However, it took five centuries for the Roman Empire to fall apart. The difference with what is happening now is that all the processes of change are happening at the much faster pace than in Roman times.

 

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Tucker Carlson: So when does the AI empire start, do you think?

 

Vladimir Putin: [chuckling] You’re asking increasingly more complicated questions! To answer them, you need to be an expert in big numbers, big data, and AI. Mankind is currently facing many threats. Due to the genetic research, it is now possible to create a superhuman, a specialized human being, a genetically engineered athlete, scientist, military man.

 

There are reports that Elon Musk has already had a chip implanted in the human brain in the USA.

 

Tucker Carlson: What do you think of that?

 

Vladimir Putin: Well, I think there’s no stopping Elon Musk. He will do as he sees fit.

 

Nevertheless, you need to find some common ground with him, search for ways to persuade him. I think he’s a smart person. I truly believe he is.

 

So you need to reach an agreement with him, because this process needs to be formalized and subjected to certain rules.

 

Humanity has to consider what is going to happen due to the newest development in genetics, or in AI. One can make an approximate prediction of what will happen.

 

Once mankind felt an existential threat coming from nuclear weapons, all nuclear nations began to come to terms with one another, since they realized these negligent use of nuclear weaponry could drive humanity to extinction. It is impossible to stop research in genetics or AI today, just as it was impossible to stop the use of gunpowder back in the day.

 

But as soon as we realize that the threat comes from unbridled and uncontrolled development of AI or genetics, or any other field, the time will come to reach an international agreement on how to regulate these things.

 

Tucker Carlson: I appreciate all the time you’ve given us. I just got to ask you one last question, and that’s about someone who’s very famous in the United States, probably not here, Evan Gershkovitz, who’s the Wall Street Journal reporter. He’s 32, and he’s been in prison for almost a year. This is a huge story in the United States, and I just want to ask you directly, without getting into the tales of it or your version of what happened, if, as a sign of your decency, you would be willing to release him to us, and we’ll bring him back to the United States.

 

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Vladimir Putin: [sighing] We have done so many gestures of goodwill out of decency that I think we have run out of them! We have never seen anyone reciprocate to us in a similar manner.

 

However, in theory, we can say that we do not rule out that we can do that, if our partners take reciprocal steps. When I talk about the partners, I first of all refer to special services. Special services are in contact with one another. They are talking about the matter in question. There is no taboo to settle this issue. We are willing to solve it. But there are certain terms being discussed via special services channels. I believe an agreement can be reached.

 

Tucker Carlson: This stuff has happened for obviously, centuries. One country catches another spy within its borders, it trades it for one of its own Intel guys in another country. I think what makes, and it’s not my business, but what makes this difference is the guy’s obviously not a spy. He’s a kid [32 year old]! And maybe he was breaking your law in some way, but he’s not a super spy and everybody knows that. And he’s being held hostage in exchange. Which is true. With respect, it’s true and everyone knows it’s true.

 

So maybe he’s in a different category. Maybe it’s not fair to ask for somebody else in exchange for letting him out. Maybe it degrades Russia to do that?

 

Vladimir Putin: You know, you can give different interpretations to what constitutes a spy, but there are certain things provided by law. If a person gets secret information and does that in conspiratorial manner, then this is qualified as espionage. And that is exactly what he was doing. He was receiving classified, confidential, information and he did it covertly. Maybe he did that out of carelessness or his own initiative.

 

Considering the sheer fact this is qualified as espionage. The fact has been proven as he was caught red handed when he was receiving this information. If it had been some far fetched excuse, fabrication, something not proven, it would have been different story then. But he was caught red handed when he was secretly getting confidential information. What is it then?

 

Tucker Carlson: But are you suggesting that he was working for the US government or NATO? Or he was just a reporter who was given material he wasn’t supposed to have? Those seem like very different, very different things.

 

Vladimir Putin: I don’t know who he was working for. But I would like to reiterate that getting classified information in secret is called espionage. And he was working for the US special services, some other agencies. I don’t think he was working for Monaco, as Monaco is hardly interested in getting that information. It is up to special services to come to an agreement. Some groundwork has been laid. There are people who in our view, are not connected with special services.

 

Let me tell you a story about a person serving a sentence in an allied country of the US. That person, due to patriotic sentiments, eliminated a bandit in one of the European capitals during the events in the Caucasus. Do you know what he [the bandit] was doing? I don’t want to say that, but I will do it anyway. He was laying our soldiers, taken prisoner, on the road and then drove his car over their heads. What kind of person is that? Can he even be called human?

 

But there was a patriot who eliminated him in one of the European capitals. Whether he did it of his own volition or not, that is a different question.

 

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Tucker Carlson: That’s a completely different, … 32 year old newspaper reporter, …

 

Vladimir Putin: He committed something different. He’s not just a journalist, I reiterate. He’s a journalist who was secretly getting confidential information! Yes, it is different, but still I’m talking about other people who are essentially controlled by the US authorities, wherever they are serving a sentence. There is an ongoing dialogue between the special services. This has to be resolved in a calm, responsible and professional manner. They are keeping in touch, so let them do their work.

 

I do not rule out that the person you refer to, Mr. Gershkovich, may return to his motherland. By the end of the day it does not make any sense to keep him in prison in Russia. We want the US special services to think about how they can contribute to achieving the goals our special services are pursuing. We are ready to talk.

 

Moreover, the talks are underway and there have been many successful examples of these talks crowned with success. Probably this is going to be crowned with success as well.

 

But we have to come to an agreement.

 

Tucker Carlson: I hope you let him out.

 

Mr. President, thank you.

 

Vladimir Putin: [chuckling] I also want him to return to his homeland at last. I’m absolutely sincere! But let me say once again, the dialogue continues. The more public we render things of this nature, the more difficult it becomes to resolve them. Everything has to be done in a calm manner.

 

Tucker Carlson: I wonder if that’s true with the war though, also, I guess I want to ask one more question, which is, and maybe you don’t want to say so for strategic reasons. But are you worried that what’s happening in Ukraine could lead to something much larger and much more horrible? And how motivated are you just to call the US government and say:

 

“Let’s come to terms.”?

 

Vladimir Putin: I already said that we did not refuse to talk. We are willing to negotiate. It is the Western side, and Ukraine is obviously a satellite state of the US. It is evident. I do not want you to take it as if I’m looking for a strong word or an insult, but we both understand what is happening.

 

The financial support, $72 billion was provided. Germany ranks second. Then other European countries come. Dozens of billions of US dollars are going to Ukraine. There’s a huge influx of weapons. In this case you should tell the current Ukrainian leadership to stop and come to a negotiating table, rescind this absurd decree. We did not refuse.

 

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Tucker Carlson: Sure. But you already said, and I didn’t think you meant it as an insult because you already said, correctly, it’s been reported that Ukraine was prevented from negotiating a peace settlement by the former British prime minister acting on behalf of the Biden administration. So, of course there are satellites, big countries control small countries. That’s not new.

 

And that’s why I asked about dealing directly with the Biden administration, which is making these decisions, not President Zelensky of Ukraine.

 

Vladimir Putin: Well, if the Zelensky administration in Ukraine refused to negotiate, I assume they did it under the instruction from Washington. If Washington believes it to be the wrong decision, let it abandon it! Let it find a delicate excuse so that no one is insulted. Let it come up with a way out. It was not us who made this decision. It was them. So let them go back on it. That is it.

 

However, they made the wrong decision, and now we have to look for a way out of this situation, to correct their mistakes. They did it, so let them correct it themselves. We support this.

 

Tucker Carlson: So I just want to make sure I’m not misunderstanding what you’re saying. I don’t think that I am. I think you’re saying you want a negotiated settlement to what’s happening in Ukraine.

 

Vladimir Putin: Right! And we made it. We prepared the huge document in Istanbul that was initialed by the head of the Ukrainian delegation. He affixed his signature to some of the provisions, not to all of it. He put his signature and then he himself said:

 

“We were ready to sign it and the war would have been over long ago, 18 months ago, however, Prime Minister Johnson came, talked us out of it, and we missed that chance.”

 

Well, you missed it. You made a mistake. Let them get back to that. That is all. Why do we have to bother ourselves and correct somebody else’s mistakes?

 

I know one can say it is our mistake. It was us who intensified the situation and decided to put an end to the war that started in 2014 in Donbas. As I have already said, by means of weapons.

 

Let me get back to furthering history. I already told you, we were just discussing. Let us go back to 1991, when we were promised that NATO would not expand, to 2008, when the doors to NATO opened to the declaration of state sovereignty of Ukraine, declaring Ukraine a neutral state. Let us go back to the fact that NATO and US military bases started to appear on the territory of Ukraine, creating threats to us. Let us go back to coup d’eta in Ukraine in 2014. It is pointless though, isn’t it? We may go back and forth endlessly, but they stop negotiations. Is it a mistake? Yes. Correct it! We are ready. What else is needed?

 

[2:02:53]

 

Tucker Carlson: Do you think it’s too humiliating at this point for NATO to accept Russian control of what was two years ago Ukrainian territory?

 

Vladimir Putin: I said, [sighing] let them think how to do it with dignity. There are options if there is a will.

 

Up until now, there has been the uproar and screaming about inflicting a strategic defeat on Russia on the battlefield. Now they are apparently coming to realize that it is difficult to achieve, if possible at all! In my opinion, it is impossible by definition. It is never going to happen! It seems to me that now those who are in power in the West have come to realize this as well. If so, if the realization has set in, they have to think what to do next. We are ready for this dialogue.

 

Tucker Carlson: Would you be willing to say:

 

“Congratulations NATO, you won!”

 

And just keep the situation where it is now?

 

Vladimir Putin: You know, it is a subject matter for the negotiations no one is willing to conduct. Or to put it more accurately, they are willing, but do not know how to do it. I know they want it. It is not just I see it, but I know they do want it. But they are struggling to understand how to do it. They have driven the situation to the point where we are at. It is not us who have done that. It is our partners, opponents, who have done that. Well, now let them think how to reverse the situation. We’re not against it. It would be funny if it were not so sad.

 

This endless mobilization in Ukraine, the hysteria, the domestic problems. Sooner or later it will result in agreement.

 

You know, this probably sounds strange given the current situation, but the relations between the two peoples will be rebuilt anyway. [sighing] It will take a lot of time, but they will heal.

 

I’ll give you very unusual examples. There is a combat encounter on the battlefield. Here’s specific example. Ukrainian soldiers got encircled. This is an example from real life. Our soldiers were shouting to them:

 

“There is no chance. Surrender yourselves. Come out and you will be alive.”

 

Suddenly the Ukrainian soldiers were screaming from there in Russian. Perfect Russian, saying:

 

“Russians do not surrender!”

 

And all of them perished. They still identify themselves as Russian.

 

What is happening is to a certain extent an element of a civil war. Everyone in the West thinks that the Russian people have been split by hostilities forever. No. They will be reunited. The unity is still there. Why are the Ukrainian authorities dismantling the Ukrainian Orthodox Church? Because it brings together not only the territory, it brings together our souls. No one will be able to separate the soul. Shall we end here, or is there anything else?

 

Tucker Carlson: No, I think that’s great! Thank you, Mr. President.

 

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Free speech is bigger than any one person or any one organization. Societies are defined by what they will not permit. What we’re watching is the total inversion of virtue!

 

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@TuckerCarlson
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@TuckerCarlson
9 days ago
Watch my immediate reaction to the interview here: https://bit.ly/3SxeZBY
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@armageddon1403
8 days ago
Now we are eagerly waiting for a Russian journalist coming to USA and interviewing Biden for two hours.
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@justira8296
1 day ago
Tucker was not prepared for such long historical lecture
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@serenellas691
1 day ago
Grande grande grande Tucker!
Li hai stracciati tutti, sono verdi di invidia, questa intervista passerà alla storia e sta già facendo la storia
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@the_peace_bear
11 hours ago
Let’s pray for peace please.
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@johnniejett9363
9 days ago
The Russian to English translator did an EXCELLENT JOB!!!!!
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@zachary2393
18 hours ago
Interestingly, if you type into Youtube “Tucker Carlsen interviews Putin” you won’t find this full-length interview but rather critiques of it from ‘The Young Turks’ and other whiney Youtubers that hate everything Tucker stands for… that should tell you everything you need to know about Youtube and it’s ‘unbiased’ algorithms.
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@carolaraujo2970
1 day ago
Eu sempre fico intrigada em como uma boa parte dos entrevistadores norte americanos são totalmente ingênuos em relação aos estados unidos… em relação de como é feito a politica externa do país…
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@polina4067
8 hours ago
Спасибо
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@ahmedofficialwarner
13 hours ago
I’m loving this interview
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@cayito1122
1 day ago
When is the interview with Kim Joug Un? Can’t wait for that one.
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@Jinseual
7 days ago
That 20 minutes was probably the longest “1 minute 30 second explanation of history” Tucker Carlson ever had.
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@caviarandcrumpets
2 hours ago
Fantastic interview, would subscribe to their podcast!
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@trevormawulana980
1 day ago
Thank you Tucker for this great piece of work
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@svetlanar7430
1 day ago
Thank you for this interview
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@vikasv9687
1 day ago
Thanks for doing this.
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@lobotrolx
1 day ago
I’m shocked and amazed the US Gov has allowed you to show this very impactful interview. Thank you for having the guts to be a journalist that is willing to show transparency EXCELLENT WORK!
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@thomass1891
7 days ago
As a person that speaks Russian, I must say the interpreter did an outstanding job.
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@jordanbeagle5779
1 day ago
A great example of Brandolini’s law. It takes more effort to counter bullshit than to spew it.
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@Legionary-Assassin
23 hours ago
Thank you tucker. This is important stuff to report on.
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@OurEyesYourEyes
2 hours ago
Good job, Tucker!!!! Great as always.
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@alexanderren1097
8 hours ago
Wow. That was a powerful finishing statement. Tucker, I heard your voice crack slightly at the end afterwards. Well done
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@jansecj9472
11 hours ago
great interview
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@derrekmitchell1012
7 days ago
10 million views
in a day and it’s not listed as trending
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@shinyy187
8 hours ago
38:10 That’s exactly how it is.
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@emanuelme6886
5 hours ago
Peace for the world
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@MikeM-pr7po
15 hours ago
YouTube is trying hard to shadow ban this interview
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@Skizzler.
18 hours ago
VP sat there and broke not a sweat! JB could NEVER!
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@Youngdolphforlife
11 hours ago
These two need a podcast
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@GibranCastillo
8 days ago
Peace for Russians, Ukrainians, and everyone else involved in the war
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@connornicholas8628
1 day ago
Love that this interview happened.
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@kevdes2564
13 hours ago
I would recommend Tucker do a second interview if possible with more questions
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@TylerWest1776
1 day ago
Why is this video not on trending? 17 Million views
in 1 week and close to 1 Million likes. Hmmm…typical YouTube behavior
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@Lola-yx9gb
17 hours ago
Great job. Thank you.
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@manishmhetre6
1 day ago
Yeah I agree too!
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@prototechnic1680
8 days ago
2 million views
in 6 hrs!!! Checked the trending tab and it’s not even listed. Completely absurd
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@maryalxndra26
4 hours ago
Thank you for letting us hear Mr. Putin! We need conversations, discussions, and more understanding. Especially for us citizens to make better choices on a political level!
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@MrRaja
1 day ago
That russian accented russian to English translation was chef’s kiss to this interview.
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@dennisdunn8892
9 hours ago
Putin is a Smart man.
I didn’t realize it before.
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@ReadWriteBlu
1 day ago
So far historical events have been quoted. History repeats itself, for Better or worse.
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@rexslay7264
1 day ago
Great interview
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@infinity697
8 days ago
Shout-out to the translator, the unsung hero of this interview
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@minuteofcan
23 hours ago
Fantastic interview, I love that things like this are happening.
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@marcelotunoni689
1 day ago
This Video was extremely reassuring when it came down to all the data we processed and very accurate
thanks Carlson
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@jamesstahl726
21 hours ago
Tucker Carlson is a journalist again!!!!!!
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@cesmith777
1 day ago
The entire time I was only able to think how nice it would be to have a leader that can form complete and coherent sentences.
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@jairocorrea1145
1 hour ago
God Bless you tucker.
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@MILETANTAS
7 days ago (edited)
02:00 Putin gives a history of Russia & Ukraine
25:04 NATO Expansion
30:40 NATO & Bill Clinton
41:10 Ukraine
48:30 What triggered this conflict?
01:02:37 A peaceful solution?
01:11:33 Who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines?
01:24:13 Re-establishing communication with the US
01:36:33 How powerful is Zelensky?
01:48:36 Elon Musk & AI
01:51:07 Imprisoned American journalist Evan Gershkovich
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@sddonzori4734
2 hours ago
Real journalism, and i think this will get tucker to be remembered outside these leftist bullshit times
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@user-kc9ns7qj4e
3 hours ago
Good jog Tucker. I respect you
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@user-bj8no9dv2e
12 hours ago
Спасибо)
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@XisoKingsQueens
15 hours ago (edited)
As an African speaking 2 languages, this was astounding … Interpretations was damn near flawless … Now, comments on the interview itself …
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@user-sm9sv3ie9t
3 hours ago
Thank you so much Mr. Carlson.
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@elijahpositive2995
8 days ago
As a russian language native speaker as well as english edvanced speaker let me inform that this was one of the best snd closest to the source translations I’ve ever heard. It is so important when it comes to international relations!
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@user-lz9zp3fv6y
2 hours ago
Thank you Mr. Carlson!
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@criptovida
6 hours ago
The man was not reading anywhere, he gave a good context, thanks for sharing this interview Tucker.
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@qualityhandymanservices3472
7 hours ago
Talk about having receipts!
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@samg2842
6 hours ago
A great interview thank you for this. I’ve wanted to hear Putin’s take on the situation for a very long time.
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@bishnujoshi1938
14 hours ago
Those peoples are scholar and legends who are watching this interview.
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@seanmccarney271
8 days ago
i dont know who was translating this interview, but give that man a raise!
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@ram..ram..
21 hours ago
What’s prompting Tucker to passionately defend this particular journalist?
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@sameepinspires2669
13 hours ago
Great job, mate
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@esodmumixam2053
19 hours ago
How works the view counter ?
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@marcweiss6882
4 hours ago
Whatever whoever thinks about this interview: thank you Mr. Carlson for this!
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@towerbay2759
8 hours ago
Good Job congratulation
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@es5121
7 days ago (edited)
Being bilingual, I must say that the interpreter did an amazing job here.
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@cecens98
3 hours ago
let’s all come together and bring peace back to this world
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@haleydoe644
13 hours ago
It was very interesting to hear about the Kievan Rus from him. I’m descended from Vladmir the Great, a branch that was married into the Capetian Kings of France. I spent years and 300 pages verifying what I could.
I wish I could have made it that simple.
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@badisbouchama1801
22 hours ago
NATO would not have any reason to exist if Russia joined
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@sushinktattoo1366
1 day ago
Is there non dubbed version of this? Where both can be understood by dual linguists
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@ArgejaaChandan
18 hours ago
Good
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@METALADIX
7 days ago
I’m amazed that the full interview is actually on YouTube.
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@sophytan5049
21 hours ago
The truth is the fact and real things that whole world should listen by wide heart.
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@user-uz4qn6nt7b
1 hour ago (edited)
Navalny forever in our hearts
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@edkovaleski8350
57 minutes ago
Access journalism!
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@susiehaddock6224
1 day ago
Very respectable effort on both part. Grateful to get more insite. God bless them.
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@Dave-dy7fs
6 hours ago
My question is how many people who watched this knew the true reason why Russia was at war with Ukraine? Because I read about this over a year ago. No news network was broadcasting this!
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@DeaconHo
1 day ago
The translator’s voice was quite ominous yet soothing to hear.
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@user-pg7qe7td7q
13 hours ago
Good to see ya doing alright
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@user-um8oo3wz6u
1 day ago
Thank you so much for going the extra mile, we need people like you. God Bless .
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@roychong5827
17 hours ago
very very very very VERY VERY VERY VERY REALLY EFFING WEIRD ONLY COMMENTS OF PRAISE
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@efstratioskirtsios298
12 hours ago
Thanks for bringing this to the West. There is no chance any other would do…
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@danieladams8085
3 hours ago
I think we should have tucker over there getting information for americans why we are going broke
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@oceanwavesES
7 days ago
when I saw the length of the interview over 2 hours I was like no way I’m going to see it all. I just reached the end and I want to know more
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@jamesspencer6222
1 hour ago
I gotta say. Its nice to hear an outside pov of the US and it is extremely nice to hear from the Russian president himself what and why the Ukraine conflict started. Do i know whats true and false? No but its very helpful to hear his side of the story instead of being told through our news a 1 sided pov. Thank you mr carlson for going the distance to ask the questions we the people want answered and being patient enough to listen through the entire interview.
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@D.A.G.1967
1 hour ago
Такер, ты настоящий мужчина.
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@samanhesampoor8670
1 day ago
thats what we need
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@user-jv9lz3fg5t
1 day ago
Thank you very much mister Carlson! Your brave deed takes this word a hope. I’m really happy this video attracts millions of people who want to know the truth. Or at least not the truth, but the point of view of the President of Russia.
You are great!
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@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
There is a reason why you listen when putin speaks its cause you gotta learn more about history
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@kryzieg
8 days ago (edited)
Here are some timestamps:
0:00:00 — Introduction
0:02:00 — History of Russia and Ukraine
0:25:04 — NATO expansion
0:30:40 — NATO and Bill Clinton
0:41:10 — Ukraine
0:48:30 — Cause of the conflict
0:55:21 — What is de-nazification?
1:02:37 — Peaceful resolution?
1:11:33 — Who blew up Nord Stream?
1:24:13 — Restoring ties with the USA
1:36:33 — How strong is Zelensky?
1:48:36 — Elon Musk and AI
1:51:07 — Evan Gershkovich arrest in Russia
comment if missing any important parts
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@mco119jj
1 day ago
For what it’s worth…this dude speaks English, or at least he understands it well, guaranteed. He’s just a crafty enough fellow to understand that pretending to wait for the translation gives you a pause during which you can think about what was said, then decide how to respond. Whatever else you think of him, it’s a smart move.
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@hanmensun7019
10 hours ago
Americans should especially watch this, your media don’t tell you even though you are a democratic country
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@signallight700
11 hours ago
I witching this interview more than 15 times,
Every time I discovered that I have to witching again
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@ambrosebarigyemukiga
1 day ago
Translator needs a huge pay rise..He did a very great job
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@lixiangfeiukusa1
1 day ago
Great interview!!! You should visit China and interview the leader there!
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@inauzn
8 days ago
This interview was better than watching a good movie in the theaters. That’s how good it was! Go Tuck C!
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@k_v_k_m
1 day ago
I do love this interview with a calm and confident leader
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@user-ey1ex8ib4u
11 hours ago
This is informative. Thank you. First hand by himself.
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@zambarau2072
3 hours ago
He actually said “Thank God you didn’t get into the CIA.”
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@Dionis-uy8pq
1 day ago (edited)
Спасибо Такер за интервью.
Найти его действительно не так просто. Его скрывают видимо.
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@maxthalmann5865
2 hours ago
Its good to listen to both sides
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@mallorieryan9573
9 days ago
Amazing work Tucker, thanks to you , your team, and Mr Putin for allowing this interview. Power to you!!
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@richfowler9893
2 hours ago
this is one of the best 2 hours that I have spent on youtube in a long time.:)
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@AnythingOutdoorswithSteve
1 day ago
What an amazing interview! An extremely bold move for Tucker, while putting his life on the line. He may not be safe yet, even though he is back home, our government is vengeful. Now i am probably placing myself on that list!
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@abzinhoo
1 day ago
Yes

@cohen855
10 hours ago
Tucker was very brave to under take not a interview but go against a very powerful and cleary unlawful government
They wont forget it ,id be concerned if i was him ,but he has shown journalism used to know no boundaries
Today journalism is a way to deliver your agenda
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@seinfeldfan442
1 day ago
This video came up straight away.
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@heikobuse6086
7 days ago
The German Translation of this interview is “no longer available” on YouTube. It has been tranlated on the channel “Paul Brandenburg”. Thanks god, my English is good enough for the original (thanks VPN)
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@user-ot3ql4dp4j
6 hours ago
Tucker, your a god damn hero
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@rustonelliott8004
8 hours ago
Imagine a full 10 minute interview with even a fraction of the transparent/unscripted interview that this was. He didn’t insult anyone, did not consult anyone to see if he could answer or how to answer, and last but not least he was sincere in my opinion.
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@aniqatiq731
7 hours ago
What a interview.
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@joenelson4715
1 day ago
Crazy how Tucker drowned in a canoe while his dinner was on the table in the middle of the night R.I.P. gonna miss him!
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@user-yp2gv1hu2q
1 day ago
Good job ! Mr Carlson ! You look very handsome and clear head in the interview !
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@Through-The-Earth
9 days ago
Thank you for honest journalism!
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@robinsalvatoreofficial8909
21 hours ago
Tucker is brave , his life is at risk in USA . They jailed julian assange for being honest and giving free speech about the US atrocities in iraq . Now I’m worried if they could do the same to Honorable Tucker Carlson .
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@elizabethcardinale6255
1 day ago
Thank you Tucker! You have done a great job putting this interview on your network.
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@JM-it2zo
6 hours ago
Youtube sure likes to hide shit that matters
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@raf4014
13 hours ago
Bravissimo
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@daveb5035
9 days ago
God bless you tucker. A true journalist doing actual journalist interviews
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@1kuhny
8 hours ago
I would assume tucker had a translator in his ear too right? It seemed like he was able to understand him fairly quickly
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@artinkhoodian8824
1 day ago
Much love brother!! God bless!!
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@garbageman9145
1 day ago
Tucker can you have a simmilar interview with Biden, I’m interested on his thoughts on all this are
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@Stickboyy21
1 day ago
we had a legal lecture at my university today. we debated about the whole Russia ukraine War and my classmate based all his arguments on this topic i then decided to come see for myself
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@cammylabay5014
1 day ago
My roku tv won’t let me play it from the roku youtube app or project it from my phone
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@MrFutbol067
8 days ago
I want a two hour interview with President Biden next. I’m serious Tucker! Reach out to the president ask for the same courtesy you received in Russia. When they give you their no answer tell the American people why this administration will not give them the courtesy of their leader being asked the same questions. The real reason is that the current administration is in capable of a 22 minute interview much less a 2 hour one.
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@rosenrytter
1 day ago
Thank you for the interview
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@katrinafadeeva5642
11 hours ago
Beautiful work by Tucker Carlson
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@lumeronswift
1 day ago
Strangely, neither of you referred to Snowden or Assange
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@tuanquang695
8 hours ago
Việt Nam chúng tôi chúc các bạn 1 năm mới vui vẻ và tràn đầy hạnh phúc yêu các bạn
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@rantingcullinarian
1 day ago
End the stupid support of Ukraine.
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@queenredspecial
7 days ago
This translator is a hero. This is the only dubbed interview I have ever enjoyed.
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@prudentianavanvladeraecken7060
53 minutes ago
finally a “true” conversation. Thanks
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@atyafatima386
23 hours ago
Tucker, you are great. Keep up the good work. And my respect for Putin keeps on increasing all the time. May good sense prevails in the West. It is trying hard to provoke WW III.
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@antonyM82
3 hours ago
TuckerCarlson ты красавчик! (смелый)
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@goldie6649
4 hours ago
Brilliant job Tucker & Putin, i always have had suspicion about the Ukraine side of this war & this educated me I will be praying 4 peace 4 All
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@nicholasstathoulopoulos4744
12 hours ago
“Tucker, come and take a look at this very fine window…”
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@Twisty805
7 days ago
“No one will be able to separate the soul”.
Strong ending.
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@senkajovicic3590
19 hours ago
Fenomenal interview and epical end of it. Last minute and Tuckers expression are… everything!Congratulations to both participants.
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@user-rc7xx8ds5r
1 day ago
46:19 Putin roasting Tucker will forever be funny
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@Laurabozovic
23 hours ago
Protect this man
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@Quantum369Mechanic
1 day ago
I would like to hear more from this dude. Great job tucker!
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@ramoncruz1829
9 hours ago
This video is straight up ASMR
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@aditinigam429
8 days ago
Watching from India. I don’t have patience for more than 10 minutes, but watched this for two hours without break. Congrats Tucker Carlson for the kind of questions.
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@michellereilly979
6 hours ago
The Oliver Stone interview was EXTREMELY insightful about Putin. He isnt the monster the MSM and US government has made him out to be. He is intelligence, controlled, a patriot. He doesnt speak like a politician. That interview used subtitles so the audience sould hear his tone, inflection and emotions which gives more of an idea of his personality. He is direcrt, but u can tell he is being honest forthcoming in his answers.
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@Susan-md6nd
21 hours ago
Great interview Our Family like Mr Putin
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@danielameha1337
21 hours ago
What was the reason behind YouTube blocking billions of people worldwide from viewing this interview? This interview did not reach my inbox despite my subscription to Tucker. That is crazy.
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@tamilepicvideos6657
23 hours ago
A great reply from the iron man for the western mads
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@user-yv4tf3jb4g
1 day ago
Now let’s have a follow-up with an elderly man with poor memory
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@user-og8ef6pf4s
8 days ago
来自中国，谢谢 Carlson 先生勇敢为真理做好他工作
谢谢普京总统，为他国家主权, 俄罗斯人民的安全，和生活而战。 向普京总统点赞
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@BashirArsine
1 day ago
Great interview!
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@louistokologolo
1 day ago
The guy makes his points very much calmly,
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@raygallardo1560
22 hours ago
putin for us president 2024
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@kyle08dejager
1 day ago
And then after they both agreed they hate us cause they ain’t us
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@lizamena9124
1 day ago
Wow almost 18,000,000 views
not even FOX nor CNN
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@bmohr9826
8 days ago
Watching from USA Arizona. I love that this is an actual interview and not an argument or an interruption-fest. We need to hear both sides. It is not only our right but our duty as Americans to push freedom and liberty regardless of your personal beliefs or opinions
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@mohdmustafaazizi633
1 day ago
That was a great history class and we learned much
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@BritneySK
54 minutes ago
As a Russian I am truly happy to see many people finally opening their eyes! I thank God for this! Putin and Tucker did amazing. Especially the translator!
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@ghaliberrada9722
1 hour ago
Do same with netnyahu
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@TheGeneralSoundwave
1 day ago
Man this interview was top tier. Just wow.
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@SladeMr123
1 day ago
Nice not having to skip ads
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@eslim95023
9 days ago
God bless Tucker for bringing back real journalism
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@mi9t142
1 day ago
As a Chinese native I can confirm that the translator did a awesome job.
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@stuartcudlip223
14 hours ago
Irrespective of personal opinions, it’s good for the people of the world to at least hear what the leader of another historically significant country has to say. There cannot be only one rhetoric.
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@aagiibb1
9 hours ago
Great smart man.
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@kurtanglerookieyear
1 day ago
Reminder that there is no hero in a war between two irreversibly corrupt parties. One blocks the opposition, the other literally kills the opposition. This was a needed interview but keep your takes on who is in the right. The answer is no one
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@user-tf5di4bj6f
20 hours ago
He just wants to be friends and doesn’t understand/is mad we aren’t
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@DressMeSlow
9 days ago
We need you Tucker! Stay safe
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@vitali2127
1 day ago
What I don’t get is how Tucker understands all that? I don’t see any earpiece for translation. And he often replies so quick
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@vinnyrichardsduartegilmete3496
16 hours ago
RTV’d be proud.
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@-Hey-Join-With-me-Now-s3x
20 hours ago
Moral issues greet us each morning in the newspaper, confront us in the memos on our desks, nag us from our children’s soccer fields, and bid us good night
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@ItylusLarp
23 hours ago
Watching it for the memes
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@elizabetheverett1096
7 hours ago
Finally. The truth. Thank you Tucker for being an actual journalist- bringing the truth to the people that continue to be lied to by their own governments.
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@mrmrandystrang6592
5 hours ago
The Best

@Adam75231
8 days ago
Awesome interview! Tucker Carlson did an excellent job! 2 hours and not one single second I was bored.
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@jeanlouisbaron5351
1 day ago
Tucker Carlson looks like a student in front of a teach .
Very interesting meeting to be true.
Both Russia and its leaders have been so much underatted so far ..
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@yayajennings6500
18 hours ago
I find it hard to believe that this interview has only gained 2million views
in the last week, it should be more than this!
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@CryptoClownWorldTA77
14 hours ago
You’re not on network tv anymore bro. The makeup isn’t necessary. Just be a regular person like everyone else.
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@CraftsmanFX85
3 hours ago
@TuckerCarlson I want to thank you for making this interview a possibility for the world and enabling us the chance to see what President Putin is willing to talk about. Dear President Putin. I have immense respect for you being willing and wanting to take part in this interview. Thank you for your desire to make this interview possible and wanting to talk in front of the world.
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@rockib8319
14 hours ago
search “tucker carlson’s interview with Putin” and this vid will not show up….
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@gwzrd5675
8 days ago
As a Russian with decent English, I want to thank the translator for doing great job as Russian to English translations usually translate no meaning
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@tomaskopolia1031
20 hours ago
I appreciate Tucker for going places where few have courage to go.
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@user-vr3bk3cx2y
9 hours ago (edited)
President Putin is obviously a champion amongst presidents as Tucker is amongst journalists BRAVO
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@sovietsnake4726
1 day ago (edited)
I like how how when you search for this video only the repost comes up, no matter how long you scroll. Interesting huh?
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@ianinkster2261
17 hours ago
I can’t hear the first five minutes of his speech without first hearing the ominous background music to the spoken prologue of Lord of the Rings.

@flashlightradiotv
19 hours ago
Why do we have to search before we see this video? YouTube refuses to make it trend, but people are making it trend.
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@ryanlarge9793
8 days ago
Thank you Tucker. The world needed this.
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@SwaRaJ_075
12 hours ago
Will go down as one of the GOATed interview in the 21st Century
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@JesusChristEmmanuel
1 day ago
Our Father, Who art in heaven,
Hallowed be Thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy Will be done,
on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.
Our Father, Who art in heaven,
Hallowed be Thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy Will be done,
on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.
Our Father, Who art in heaven,
Hallowed be Thy Name.
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy Will be done,
on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.
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@alowery001
8 hours ago
Lololo….F Fox news….lololol….you didn’t stop Tucker
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@simonwalker8300
17 hours ago
Thank you Tucker, at last a reasonable, i.e not combative, interview with the Russian leader. Who we have so far been prevented from hearing, as journalism these days consists of asking a question then talking over their answer, no wonder the Russians didn’t want to do it. Perhaps they have better manners than us. Very interesting!.
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@petermasona1034
6 hours ago

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@zepafra
8 days ago (edited)
We’re so used to western tv and western politician superficial way and fast timing that some of us may struggle to listen to such a complex interview. I hope that this will become the new standard, serious conversation for adults and not commercial spots for grown and ignorant children
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@marco1941
1 day ago
Tom Tucker made it quite far.
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@pattysullivan3517
11 hours ago
I love the fact Putin gave us a history lesson and offered the actual documents to confirm them. Very well done and very comprehensive and thorough interview. Well done by both parties.
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@etl_axiom
1 day ago
President Putin is very interesting.
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@RacksYoungin
7 hours ago
Why does Putin never get old
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@Caleb-143iyk
1 day ago
Tucker Carlson has this up on his website too.
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@Thanatos973
7 days ago
Sending Love from Texas, i hope for peace between every country as we work on becoming a better society.
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@cecens98
3 hours ago
does Tucker understand the Russian language or how does he get the translation?
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@lilflexlewis5802
1 day ago (edited)
Awesome interview , I’ve come to get a understanding of putin more than ever.
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@-Hey-Join-With-me-Now-s3x
1 day ago
The translator’s voice was quite ominous yet soothing to hear.
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@tomper2204
1 day ago
Can you imagine JB being able to speak intelligently for this length of time or even Kackling Kamala to have this much knowledge of our countries history.
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@olmasbekzoirov4937
21 hours ago

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@Missle1001
6 hours ago
Now Putin has to embrace the Tucker stare!
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@user-gh2iu7wm8i
12 hours ago
사랑해요 푸틴
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@mundoPRO202
8 days ago
Tucker, you earned my respect. I just finished watching it and it was 100% worth it
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@Techt
1 day ago
You were so brave to ask these inconvenient questions about Navalny. Can’t wait to see your interview with him. Oh, wait…
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@saboteur8428
15 hours ago (edited)
46:21 wow the fear it tucker’s face
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@kevin-uy3yh
3 hours ago
Then by your point of view you should give kaliningrad back to Germany

@iamurage
1 day ago
Well after that, I have great respect for Putin.
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@mariannapettersen9763
6 hours ago
Mr. Tucker can you please post the original untranslated version, for us who understands both English and Russian? I have searched all over the youtube and found only or dubbed with Russian or English.
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@robotcell9841
8 days ago
For the first time in my life I’m actually hearing a perfect translation, good shit tucker
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@gtfffv
15 hours ago
I like how even Putin thinks about the Roman Empire
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@kopeschka6748
1 day ago
This was a great interview I wish our leadership could articulate their thoughts and ideals in a calm respectful manor as well as Putin did this interview. Furthermore, I felt that Putin tried to see things from an American point of view and even if he doesn’t fully understand the way we think at least he tried which is something American leadership either refuses to do or is incapable of doing.
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@user-dw5wg2gl4b
7 hours ago

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@Alhamdulillah020
11 hours ago
As an algerian this interview really confirmed my thoughts and made me hate usa much more than i did,support russian brothers
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@esodmumixam2053
19 hours ago
The effect of this itw had to be countered… here we are, Nalvany s death…
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@Eskay94
9 days ago (edited)
Without fox for firing Tucker, none of these amazingly informative interviews would have NEVER happened. Thanks again fox
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@pontonniy
21 hours ago
Такер, красавчик!
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@rathgaras
13 hours ago
Did you ever get nervous questioning him? I understand he values you’re opinions and non biasness but he’s a very intelligent person with a very get back attitude.

@ayoubrafiq320
1 day ago
Cuz in this Morocco I own the field.

@aaronalexander9701
1 day ago
It would be really awesome if Trump and Putin got together and just talked for 2 hours on video.
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@nwaruchristian346
8 hours ago
Great job Carlson
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@victorv3219
9 days ago
Can’t wait to see Tucker interviewing president Biden for couple hours and asking him as many questions.
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@LokeyOne415
1 day ago
great interview..very insightful
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@MaureenLeeful
1 hour ago
This isn’t an interview, it’s a hand holding exercise. Tucker should go back to journalism school and learn how to ask tough questions. Quite sad actually
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@tarikyildirim8859
11 hours ago
Türkçe altyazı seçeneği istiyoruz
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@unagisama5476
5 hours ago
It needs a follow up or a part 2. The interview was good but still underwhelming. Even Putin himself agreed afterwards, in an interview with RT, that more essential critical questions were expected from Tucker as most of us did. With other words what happened to the Tucker that we used to seeing at FOX?

@glenngeerinck771
3 hours ago
poetin=made; tucker=thoughts

@Hemebean
9 days ago (edited)
I watched this on Tucker’s site. Absolutely increadible interview, the most important of our current times.
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@yenaibi
1 day ago
This was an extremely important interview. Ofcourse, the otherside will try their best to discredit the interviewer and the interviewee
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@peterharley1131
10 hours ago
Great interview, thank you for sharing. I wish Biden, HIMSELF IN PERSON, can respond with a responsive interview to answer President Putin statements.
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@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
Youre the face of the world make america great again

@k_v_k_m
1 day ago
This is the true journalism. It’s so great to see another opinion. All media… cnn, bbc etc has the same news… but only those that are beneficial to them!
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@DontStepInTheGrease
50 minutes ago
What happened to Tucker’s interview other day about the shots? Was it censored?

@rickrussell579
9 days ago
Cant wait to see how the press spins this tomorrow.
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@user-mq6he3gp4d
1 day ago
Я не могу найти в поиске на YouTube это видео. Пришлось зайти на страницу Такера и его найти. Намеренно скрывают это интервью! Всем мир!
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@malekmestiri9715
15 minutes ago
this interview is gold. Never have I had such chances to actually LISTEN & UNSERDTAND what Putin has to say

@UKpowerunleashed
1 day ago
Uncle Putin is winning He just presented copies of official historical documents! Here, take it, as a gift…Wow!
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@ilikeyou1370
1 day ago
Thanks Tucker for covering this issue!
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@zlikk
1 hour ago
Endorsing a murderer
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@thomassweet1509
8 days ago
The engagement is astounding. The people are clearly speaking and are tired of being in the dark
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@notflanders4967
3 hours ago (edited)
Tuckers laugh @2:03 reminds me of the hitman from Dumb & Dumber, the scene where he realizes that Harry and Lloyd aren’t professionals and has a good laugh just before he enjoys his spicy burger and dies. “Talk about being at the wrong place, at the wrong time.”
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@AntonSamokat
1 day ago
This is the great work. Thank you Tucker!
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@sapientasoul0479
1 day ago
YouTube won’t let the video into recommendations – send the link to your close friends, share with everyone.
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@TSayfullin
1 day ago
1:16 is my favorite moment. It’s a smart choice of comparison, smart move of perception of the global world. It makes
Total sense to me and it makes the “history course” logical in terms
Of seeing how Putin and his team build their political behavior.
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@nsmnsm8889
10 hours ago
Tucker God a History Lessons
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@pentoria1049
8 days ago (edited)
here are timestamps i made. please like so others can see it.
01:19 ukraine conflict
02:01 “are we having a talk show or a serious conversation?”
02:33 history of russia and ukraine
19:58 “does other countries have a right to go back to their 1654 borders?”
25:03 nato and russia
30:55 putin asks bill clinton if russia can join nato?
34:00 “cia supports terrorism at north caucasus”
35:44 missile system crisis
39:30 “nato breaks promise and expands to east”
46:08 putin says thank god they didn’t let carlson enter to cia
47:54 “us politicians pushed the limit and they’ve been warned”
53:49 current situation and nazification in ukraine
1:07:16 fake russian threat propaganda
1:10:38 “don’t usa have important problems other than ukraine?”
1:11:32 who blew up the north stream?
1:13:41 why germany stays silent?
1:16:11 what are the new world blocks?
1:17:26 us dollar, usa prints money, bricks and world economics
1:30:33 who makes decisions in usa?
1:36:32 volodymyr zelenskyy
1:40:26 boris johnson
1:41:26 putin being christian leader
1:48:35 ai and elon musk
1:51:05 evan gershkovich
1:58:08 is it possible the war spread out and get bigger?
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@BrHck
19 hours ago
I can’t wait to see John Oliver’s reaction to this interview

@shesmyeternalsunshine3813
21 hours ago
I think Tuck found the secrets to a long life

@jf2369af
23 hours ago
Really didn’t get much from this except for a history lesson.

@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
Its sad for me to see two most amazing parts of the world to see them fighting

@alexanderren1097
11 hours ago (edited)
I like you a lot Tucker but have to say your interruptions during the history lesson were kind of annoying though I appreciate that you realized and pointed out after the fact.
I think in part it stems from our bad American habits of (1) thinking history only started in 1776 and not realizing that the vast majority of the world have much more ancient histories that impact the way they are today. And (2) corporate capitalism has brainwashed us to have an impatient consumerist attitude such that if we don’t get what we want in 5 minutes then we get bored. I know you try not ti be so affected by corporate consumerism but sadly we’re all tainted by it to some degree
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@Larrywhite00
8 days ago
This is a much larger event than the time James Franco interviewed kim jong un.. this is the real interview.. the interview of a lifetime. Beautiful work by Tucker Carlson.
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@z1mt0n1x2
19 hours ago (edited)
28:30 That’s what I’ve been saying all along to those who doesn’t remember history. But, as everyone is an NPC, obviously nobody cares to learn.
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@SaulGoodMan817
1 day ago
Putin is the man always liked him!!!
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@zerovalue5106
11 hours ago
Honestly I agree with him because we all had land there was open land everywhere yet somehow during modernization all this land got put under paperwork claims that someone owns it and you cant use it but they sell it off little by little.

@ConfusedBobsleigh-to9lv
1 day ago
I’m impressed to the honestly of the Russian president and I’m willing to come and marry an Russian woman because I can feel the sense of human being in the Russian people. The leadership in Russia can tell it all..
Lovely lovely lovely…
Was really a long dialogue
What humble Mr president Russia people got!!!
May Allah protect Russia despite all the attempt and the sanctions, they keep on moving forward…
Great brave and brave Mr president putin. Allah bless you keep it high
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@user-st3vd5bf6g
13 hours ago
Please stay there.

@lildaisy7481
8 days ago
“I was busy that day” Love it!
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@reasons4U2smile
1 day ago
Great Job Tucker! You’re a True American Patriot!
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@andyzacek9760
7 hours ago
I love Tucker and Putin! Number one in my heart!
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@jaydavis9717
14 hours ago
Why are so many people lying about this video? Took me literally 5 seconds to find it
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@CacophonyOfDestruction
1 day ago
The Freedom Toons youtube video on this interview was hilarious

@SignsTimes-ee1vb
11 hours ago
Can’t believe UFOs were never discussed.
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@xguudaxcoax4560
8 days ago
Two words: Mind Blown
Interview the world needed to hear.
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@user-gv8vm9fo6g
11 hours ago (edited)
Thank you for this interview. So professional! It was outstanding from both sides. Молодец, Такер! Come again to the country of Leo Tolstoy and Tchaikovsky!
Natalia
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@alph8104
19 hours ago
Tucker interrupted less cuz he was stunned by the history of Putin’s side of the story
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@fuzkforyou
52 minutes ago
I knew an old soviet veteran who lived and worked with putin back in dresden
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@alph8104
19 hours ago
Putin telling Tucker that he knows he wanted to join CIA, epic and him saying I’ve done my work on u
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@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
So be humble call putin and start thinkin of ways to build global security and safety
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@Vesta_well
6 days ago
I can say that translator was 99% close to his speech!! We made double check in rus and eng! Be sure translator made all meaning correct! Спасибо, Такер!
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@WHYDAFUCKULYING
1 day ago
This was amazing. Can’t wait to see Vladimir on Theo Vons podcast next week.
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@michellevanderlinden2629
12 hours ago
Well if we got anything out of that, it was 2 hours worth of TC facial expressions for some new memes.

@wambugumichael8737
14 hours ago
YouTube where are the extra views
? Cause on X there are 204million views

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@user-vt6nf3nt9s
10 hours ago
“You know this probably sounds strange given the current situation, but the relations between the two people will be rebuilt anyway, it will take time but they will heal, the unity is still there,
no one will be able to separate the soul.
Shall we end here or is there anything else?“
~Vladimir Putin.
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@ranjosmwenyewe4794
19 hours ago
it seems business

@d-nice22
9 days ago
Congratulations Mr Tucker you broke the internet hopefully this gets 50 million views
plus
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@zerovalue5106
11 hours ago
“Im not sure how it’s relevant” I can tell he is getting at a point about Russia having a right to Ukraine. I think Putin was going to leave Ukraine alone as long as they didn’t join NATO.
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@jf2369af
1 day ago
Thanks Carlson for doing this interview and letting all of us humans on and off earth watch. You are the MVP of America this year so far without a doubt.
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@martineznuno9826
13 hours ago
Why Carson Tucker doesn’t have an earpiece like Putin? Does he speak Russian?
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@paulmangwengwe9284
1 day ago
I wonder what the Ukrainians would say when they hear their leaders do not want to negotiate.
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@user-uq2ko4jq2v
21 hours ago (edited)
so navalny called … im kidding.. he kicked the bucket today …

@ThingsThatIDo
9 days ago
Very interesting and as a free Citizen of the US I deserved the ability to hear it.
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@Abdullah-fs1kr
8 hours ago
as the look on Tucker’s face says he did not study hISTORY AND GEOGRAPHY LIKE pUTIN WAS TAUGHT
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@Frankiesmovies
15 hours ago
Amazing !
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@wilfriedvomacka1783
14 hours ago
Came for interview, received lecture
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@_Ranger01_
10 hours ago
I’m surprised the leaders don’t take the time to learn other languages. Sure they aren’t going to learn every single language, but I would think if I was a world leader I would want to be able to talk to other leaders without having to go through someone else to do so.
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@lesliegriffin4866
15 hours ago
I don’t agree, on anything killing peoples on any war but he sounds like good Russian leader
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@Wadiyatalkinabeet_
9 days ago (edited)
Regardless of your opinion on this, we are witnessing something very historic.
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@matthewmaccaughey5016
22 hours ago
Anyone notice that Tucker doesn’t have a translator like Putin? Does he understand know Russian?

@josephdivineande8085
2 hours ago
Wow!!. ‘shall we end here or is there anything else?’. I love president Putin. My next son would answer Putin.
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@Lyudmyla_k
1 day ago
I’m cusious why its not in youtube trends, quite weird.

@tozobozo4142
10 hours ago
If the USA and Europe want to see a swift and just resolution to this war they can withdraw support to the Ukraine and there will be resolution. Anyone on earth – the simplest rube – could see from the beginning the immense threat of escalation the support of Ukraine by the West would create. Anyone. If they were concerned about the threat of escalation, the West should have minded its own business from the beginning. The conflict would have been over long ago.
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@TheKopalhem
7 hours ago
18:28 – a TERRIBLE mistake in the translation Mr Putin says “Soviet Ukraine”, not “Soviet Union”
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@brokoteshowofficial4830
8 days ago
Everybody please upvote the comment in order to bring it to the top
There are critical distortions in the English translation. For example, at 18:21 Putin says that Soviet Ukraine received territories that never belonged to it, and it is translated into English that the Soviet Union received territories that never belonged to it. This fundamentally changes the meaning of the text.
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@batyab3186
23 hours ago
i finally came here because of Navalny. Carlson looks so confused here. Every now and then he says something disrespectful or laughs. “I’m not bored. I’m just not sure how it’s relevant” “Good, good. I’m so glad to know that you acknowledge that.” OMG.

@user-fm2iw3um3u
3 hours ago
Good interview Tucker. Now we can see more into this sociopaths mind and how he thinks. Brovo.

@thomasjespersen2399
21 hours ago
Like Kissinger’s historical trip to China.. Just a one way, right Tucker?

@nnnc1000
5 hours ago
Also, this interview should have happened months, months ago.
In other media, especially stretches of the church. From Off the Top of my mind, in November on EWTN, it was spoken that the conflict between Rus and Urk will end with the agreement of Creamea. Some sort of agreement within 8 mths.
So that being, media (internet) also gets called, to have everyone come to listen. So the time is coming to an end to this conflict. So, this interview was made. It gives us some type of thought to say, “Oh okay, I guess it’s going to end at some point.” Media gives a comfort idea. All leaders agree to have these types of interviews. So in months to the election into next year. There should be peace. 8 myths or less..

@i3alasuresh
12 hours ago
I see that table is not long. What happen here. This man is thinking

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@abdelllhadiii
8 days ago
His eloquence was so engaging that the interview didn’t even feel like 2 hours.
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@karyn8792
1 day ago
I will never forget that America politicians hired Ben Ladin to go to war with Russia. Btw it’s so refreshing to hear from a leader that can explain things and learn from. Not walking away not understanding what the heck they said.
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@felixg.2911
1 day ago
don‘t get my wrong but putin makes his points really clear and understandable
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@NaveenKumar-bw8hv
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@yasmingenie
1 day ago
Wow finally the truth comes out
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@harryfernandez1879
10 hours ago
Anyone know where Tucker Carlson’s translation device is?

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@phillipcsandoval9094
9 days ago
The most important interview in a century! Thank you Mr. Tucker.
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@LaurelLormand
1 day ago
It’s so refreshing to hear from Vladimir’s perspective
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@smk6650
10 hours ago
Tuckers listening face is hilarious! But I love him, good work for being an actual journalist in a time of suppression of freedom of speech and opinion
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@OBEYTHEPYRAMID
15 hours ago
Using one interpretation of the past to justify his crimes from the present.:..Brilliant….
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@abdulkadirokeji4812
1 hour ago
The fact that the interview has garnered over 17million views
already means that a lot of people are interested in the truth
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@user-ly5nm2qh9u
1 day ago
Молодетс Такер Карлсон
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@ladyinmaking
8 days ago
Just finished watching! Wow and the end is great! Loved it ! Thank you Tucker and Mr. Putin
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@Sunturlic
1 day ago
Tucker is very smart and skilled journalist, one of the best in the world. And seems to be peace loving person, he asked very good questions, that shows people where Russia stands on escalation and continuation of conflict. Which is exactly how it should be done, rhetoric that is Putin wants to expand, he wants Poland, etc. seems unlikely now. He would look really bad if after such a high profile interview, do invade someone else.
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@jehadthegreat5326
18 hours ago
Tucker pretending as if he doesn’t understand why he is explaining history…he got to…because you’re asking a stupid question in combination with the wrong question…
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@josepereirapereira3575
9 hours ago

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@bilalmani
4 hours ago
Poutine doesn’t do an interview, he interviewed his self

@benahajjam330
1 day ago
I like this, but unfortunately this was basically a chance for Putin to speak his mind. It was basically a monologue by him
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@biggiemarron
8 days ago
Watching from Saudi Arabia
It’s by far one of the best well-mannered interviews I have ever watched! Thank you Tucker
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@RJiiFin
1 day ago
Good to see someone doing some fucking journalism
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@miles_desmond
1 day ago
Now if they interview sleepy Joe they will get him to spill every state secret
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@NaveenkumarD-qk8no
13 hours ago

@Andy-ju6ls
1 day ago
Can stay and listen to this man all day long , he got me
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@timons777
2 hours ago
Главное: убедительно подать.

@jaimebotero7653
2 days ago
The translator is the real MVP.
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@nursultannazarov8379
17 hours ago
Everyone is afraid of Putin
Private USA citizen Tucker: Hold my camera
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@greaterbayareahero1401
1 day ago
I would have more respect for Tucker if he could do the same for President Xi of China lol

@mortem-tyrannis
1 day ago
How about the people of Ukraine decide on what they want, to be Ukraine and “independent” or under the rule of Russia but we all know its not about what they claim from either side Russia or the US.
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@KrazyKanucker
22 hours ago
I’ve heard a lot of what President Putin was saying previously from US Chicago’s Professor Mearsheimer who has some great interviews on youtube and am convinced Putin is rightfully upset at the lack of respect from the US over the years since the Soviet Union broke up, mainly in moving NATO closer and closer to Russia putting them under threat and breaking the Minsk agreement. The US (NATO) should give Putin breathing room and stop lying to him.
Regarding the Nazi applauded here in Canada which they didn’t realize was a Nazi, what an embarrassment. The Soviet Union lost 20 to 27 Million lives to Nazis so I can see why he brought it up, it proves how ignorant many are in the west.
Biden needs to contact Putin with a good understanding of this situation and back down but I’m not sure he’s capable or understands what’s going on.
What a mess and I have Ukrainian roots.
Go watch Chicago’s Prof Mearsheimers interviews.
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@anthonywatson7676
20 hours ago
Damn shame President Biden haven’t talked to President Putin in 2 years…wow
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@louisebazelak5177
8 days ago
This fills me with hope. Thank you for having a conversation!
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@ZackGisme
1 day ago
Texas was a Mexican territory before it was American and a whole host of people speak Spanish there. In fact one of their major cities is “San Antonio” – you need to seriously consider returning Texas to its historical home of Mexico.
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@Reginvalt
9 hours ago (edited)
For anyone struggling to understand historical reference. Putin explains mechanics of possible outcome. If a regular country (like Georgia) confronts Russia, worst thing which may happen is military defeat. This is not the case for Ukraine. Being a state with a very short history of being an independent state (30 years) and consisting mostly of other countries parts (Russia, Poland, Hungary) it naturally falls apart under stress and worst case scenario is much more devastating: dissolution and loss of statehood.
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@kalyankb7562
19 hours ago
Audi alteram partem.
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@TheHadiye
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@lizamarieliteral9544
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@Miiich1991
7 days ago
Mr Carlson, please interview Biden for 2hrs
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@FireOX_aka_Syndicate.
1 day ago
теперь Такера Карлсона в России знают как хорошего человека, который хорошо выполняет свою работу.
Будем рады видеть вас в Москве
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@fatinats
1 day ago
I admire Putins intelligence and his rationale of policies.
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@joellis5915
3 hours ago
Can I have the copy that Putin gave to Carson? Since Carson didn’t want it. So I can Read to see the happenings.

@VelvetValium
23 hours ago
Brilliant. Vladimir Putin’s sense of humor is unmatched. Extremely sophisticated person
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@rustonelliott8004
8 hours ago
Much less 2.5 hrs

@nattango8912
9 days ago
34.8 million views
on X after 3 hours.
Only about 321k on YouTube.
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@kevdes2564
13 hours ago
This was a good interview to get Putin’s perspective but I get the impression that the interview was either too soft or at least there weren’t enough questions…
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@hohliiditenaxui
7 hours ago
Путин грамотный политик.Несущий тяжелую ношу.Честь и хвала ему.
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@alferro3149
16 hours ago
Wtf!!??!;

@user-uz4qn6nt7b
1 day ago
This guy lives in a parallel reality
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@whoiswaynereynolds5457
9 hours ago
It ain’t got no gas in it

@nubiawit
8 days ago
Wow thank you Tucker watching from Ethiopia. We are grateful. Thank you thank you to keep the light of free speech. We love you. True American!!!
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@ayoubrafiq320
1 day ago
But I gotta keep 99.999999996% of punchlines coded.

@iamirene
6 hours ago
What an interview! I’m shocked, amazed and overwhelmed and happy that more people get to know the true situation behind Ukrain, Russian intentions and the situation in the whole world. Changes. And we all need to think about the new establishment of the rapidly chanding world, new mindset, values and unity of all the humanity because in the end we are ALL brothers, we are a family that is living on you motherland – the planet Earth!
Love from Russia
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@ingridburger
17 hours ago
im geting sick by listening how the west plays the game
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@jiana9691
1 day ago
Undoubtedly, one of the most wonderful interviews since the 21st century.
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@Benjamin-eg4zy
4 hours ago
Hopefully the government doesn’t mandatory ordain to remove this video.

@iamzflo
8 days ago
Just so you know … last night I was able to search up this video and it popped up quickly. Now, when I search it up, all I can see is CNN, BBC, NBC, The Guardian news clips from the DAY BEFORE the interview, with significantly less views
and it’s all I can find via search and recommended (primary source of YouTube traffic for most videos). In order to find it on YouTube this morning, after several failed attempts via search, I had to go to your actual channel and look in your videos to click on it.
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@enjoythemomenttravel
10 hours ago
Tucker, this is everything in truth my Father, from a prominent aristocratic/military family for centuries, why he left Hungary to protect his life in 56′, he talked about this history & the political strategies, until his death in 2008… for me it has always been an interesting & an education of the history about socio-economic & political strategies on the chessboard of life that the majority of us are just pons… controlled by the few!?

@Maximka45
14 hours ago
0:00 Introduction
2:00 History of Russia and Ukraine
25:04 NATO Expansion
30:40 NATO and Bill Clinton
41:10 Ukraine
48:30 What triggered this conflict?
1:02:37 A peaceful solution?
1:11:33 Who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines?
1:24:13 Re-establishing communication with the US
1:36:33 How powerful is Zelensky?
1:48:36 Elon Musk & AI
1:51:07 Imprisoned American journalist Evan Greshkovich
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@neiM91
1 day ago
wtf is going on at 59:47 – 59:50 Oo

@N.A5131
1 day ago
The Russian gangster accent keeps everybodies attention fixed on Putin

@iamthelaw9002
1 day ago
Well this interview aged like milk nice work helping feed the ego of an uncontrollable kiIIer who relayed a speech through an earpiece for two hours.
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@kurbicksan4917
9 days ago
REAL JOURNALISM!! Thank you
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@ryanlevis7532
1 day ago
Man, Putin has a good cognitive memory to remember the history of Russia. He easily made Biden look like a fool.
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@anthonywhitehead9660
36 minutes ago
History IS very important. I like to listen to him talk. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if the U.S. did just cram a bunch of propaganda in our heads I mean they do it all the time with stuff in our own country. Honestly every Russian person I have met i have liked very much and those that have lived there tell a very different story.

@chrishall745
12 hours ago
Here’s the shot version, they have been fighting over this shit for ever.

@petersladcik8788
1 day ago (edited)
When he mentioned the Roman Empire and how nothing had come close to it since, I realized that he is just a man like me. 1:47:42

@SirSidi
1 day ago
I will take 30 seconds or one minute and he ended up taking half an hour

@MuhabaOtaki
8 days ago
This Interview is uniting the world, greetings from Peru.
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@user-dx3qh3rk7g
1 day ago
«Но никому никогда не удастся растащить и раздробить русскую Душу». Шах и мат.
Прелестное интервью – блестящий темп, владение фактами, чёткая речь, отсутствие примитивной заряженности, достоинство и дипломатия (абсолютный отказ от приёмов склок, сплетен или очернения ‘партнёров/оппонентов’)… мощь Истины, которая не меркнет перед лицом самых низких потоков.
Katia Txi
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@absolutesrunner
19 hours ago
Brilliant, if only we had a dedicated person who cares about Christian values like Putin
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@user-dj8nk1cm5m
16 hours ago
How it,to get the interview from the killer?
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@Michal235
1 day ago
Being a person who’s into the actual history, this interview was gold. Top tier comedy, I love all the memes it generated
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@baptisteclearfly3350
1 hour ago
No comment…
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@wildernesseric
8 days ago
In the time it took me to watch this in 1.5x speed the views
went from 500k to over 1.7 million. People are starving for real dialogue and real news. They want to hear things from the horses mouth instead of being fed what others think they should hear. Whether what he said was true or not we want to hear both sides of the story. Great job Tucker!
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@juroknezic8690
12 hours ago
Huge thank you .>Tucker Carlson’s interview of Vladimir Putin for over two hours widens our understanding of both the Ukraine crisis and the global picture. Note that President Putin reveals the magical effects of American sanctions on Russia: The Russian economy has grown to be the top one in Europe. Do watch the entire interview and observe the body languages of Vladimir Putin and Tucker, tight lipped, Carlson. Juro

@zedsodead
1 day ago
Putins logic is irrefutable, I guess we will have to give this land back to the indians.
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@RingWrapsBoxingChats
4 hours ago
2 Men breaking bread

@WhatchaGot2Say
1 day ago
Not as entertaining as the Katt Williams interview but important nonetheless.

@EddieTyre1
1 day ago (edited)
We’re gonna need Jonathan Davis to translate for the Biden interview.

@StarMan_2018
9 days ago
MSM is in full on meltdown about this. We need MORE speech, more openness and transparency to solve the world’s problems… not censorship.
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@TheMrMxyspptlk
1 day ago (edited)
what other world-class leader can deliver such complex, data-driven, culturally eclectic argumentations while being cautious, calculated, perfectly aware of the weight his words can have for future agreements? At his age?
With all his power and capacity, had he had the possibility, the will or the witt to work more on building a lawful country and a more edificant international image of Russia… such a waste of hystorically rare opportunity.

@allenthomas5207
11 hours ago
How do Americans feel when someone explains that he want back land that belonged to him in the 1000s? Be careful, Montezuma is knocking on the door.
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@haydenhadfield5612
1 day ago
Love this guy and cannot stand brandon..
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@ignatiusgrover
1 day ago
A lot of the history lesson that Putin gave I learned from bald and bankrupt and even the small Hungarian town he talked about bald and bankrupt went there

@arturpirojkov7460
23 hours ago
YouTube delete comments
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@usernameisjonah
9 days ago
Thank you Tucker for allowing him to speak without you interrupting.
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@JesusChristEmmanuel
1 day ago
Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen.

@rjlicano
1 day ago (edited)
Stalin signed a non aggression pact with the Nazis, which facilitated their invasion of Poland and triggered the start of WWII. Stalin believed that this move would facilitate a communist takeover after the war, but Hitler broke the pact and attacked the Russians as well. Putin didnt mention that.
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@heathermichael3987
7 hours ago
So why is Putin being attacked for taking care of his own country?
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@bradleywalsh4103
1 day ago
If you asked me a few weeks ago, I wouldnt have known who Tucker Carlson is nor would I cared. I heard many opinions of him around the same time I watched the interview with Putin. In the interview, I thought he asked Putin uncomfortable questions and highlighted things Putin didnt expect. For that, I think his interview had some integrity. On the other hand, the subsequent interviews with other middle east leaders/media clearly paint him a Russian shill.

@CurSeDdAnceR
5 hours ago
Last 20 mins seems like sublime way of saying, “Oh in name of god, please stop the war lol”.

@dragonhold4
8 days ago
Corporate Media most definately wasn’t going to stop me from watching this interview.
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@nishu6970
15 hours ago
our big brother PUTIN ji ….What a clear and transparent interview…….love you PUTIN ji….Lots and lots of love from INDIA…..you won ukraine war and our hearts…….
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@kotekiti
2 hours ago
Такер карлосон вообще прикольный особенно смех

@joeloera1669
1 day ago
Tucker is a fool
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@bigrod997
1 day ago
Great interview!!!!
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@ThoroughYoungin
13 hours ago
28:22 this is true .

@rangerdanger5766
8 days ago
Crazy how much more interesting interviews are when the journalists let their interviewees talk instead of wasting their time and arguing like whiny children. Props to the interview Tucker Carlson!
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@user-cv7kz3kr3p
3 hours ago
Такер спасибо!мы Россия -хотис мира на Земле!наш президент лучший мы русские самая толерантная и дружная нация!
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@amonir3818
1 day ago
вот. серьёзно, я считаю, что Такер Карлсон очень хорошо поступил, с международной точки зрения. Это говорит нам, русским, о том, что та самая независимая журналистика на западе ещё жива. А ведь мы молились на неё с 90-ых годов
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@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
Its embarassing to me that america has such uneducated journalists
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@BobMonsieur
6 hours ago
All in all a good interview. Finally the west allowed the russian point if view to be heard. About Tucker Carlson – he was ok-ish. There were moments he was clearly biassed and a typical yankee – somewhat arrogant and manipulative. Yet, that is the best we can get now.
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@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
Learn how to be less energetic be smart learn and listen

@longrangtylongchar1817
9 days ago
Watching from India. Thank you Tucker.
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@thelonesomefisherman7425
7 hours ago (edited)
Reagan called Russia the Evil Empire. What happened to conservatives and the Republican Party that has lead to this?

@CandyWorld30
1 hour ago
How does this interview work, that Tucker appears to either understand Putin speaking Russian or somehow you can’t hear the translator there, but the interview seems not interrupted?
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@valeriyav
1 hour ago
18.25.. “Soviet Ukraine”.
Translator said ” Soviet Union”.

@dariuslevy7292
1 day ago
This is the greatest political interview ever produced mind blowing
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@glenngeerinck771
3 hours ago
pease respond

@isaiahmcguffey9700
8 days ago
Blessed are the peacemakers. May God bless and protect you Tucker.
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@Dr.Watson.01
4 hours ago
Reflecting on the Russia-Ukraine conflict prompts a nuanced perspective. Viewing Russia and Ukraine as essentially one nation, the conflict appears rooted in geopolitical maneuvering, notably by the U.S. A desire to pull Ukraine into NATO’s orbit threatens Russia’s security, prompting defensive actions. While criticisms of Putin abound, his stance reflects a commitment to safeguarding Russia’s interests. Despite misgivings over his actions toward Armenia, the prioritization of national interests is understandable because Putin could not be more “Armenian” than our head of government, that’s why I cannot give a shit to this person because what he is doing is just protecting his country.

@GA06777
15 hours ago
Don’t compare two countries. The USA has its own history; it’s just that you have a problem with social equality, or in regular government systems, or simply poor work of the metro and security agencies.

@InsatiableMonkey
1 hour ago
1:10:49 When Vladimir Putin is more in touch with American issues than our own president.
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@random_idiot
1 day ago
Why does Tucker keep asking him to re-explain things that he already clearly laid out minutes ago? And what kind of answer did he thinking he was going to get when he asked Putin to release the urinalist as a gesture of good-will 10 minutes after Putin was talking about how many time his gestures of good-will have been spat on? Good interview but Tucker was acting very strange the whole time.
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@jane0007
4 hours ago (edited)
Bonsoir que veut dire pensées KAMITE

@iceManSwag
7 days ago
Im Russian but I prefer to watch this in English in order to understand has Putins speech been translated correctly. So far Im satisfied with translation good work, still watching. Guys forward & repost this video.
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@RaZumBig
7 hours ago
Очень жаль что англоговорящие народы, находятся в оккупации своих правителей. Информационный вакуум. Это один глоток свежего воздуха!!! Спасибо Такеру! Он правильный американец!!! Очнитесь господа!
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@shanu7uday
16 hours ago
25:00 Putin: “Our good relations with Ukraine are so inevitable” That’s why we are at war
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@user-pg7qe7td7q
12 hours ago
So in our worst war I’m not a historian on Vietnam Indonesia was nextdoor I’m just admiring namer vets still around Vlad but do no u guys quit the iron cutin wile back

@FGGiskard
18 hours ago (edited)
Basing invasions on historical reasons is hilarious. As a Spaniard I would like to speak to South and central america and most of the south and west states in the US and have them back please
I guess Italians would like most of Europe and north africa back as well
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@larisa_7774
4 hours ago
Yesterday there were more than 1 million likes, today there are 935 thousand. YouTube why are you doing this?
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@tesscot
9 days ago
Best translator I’ve EVER heard.
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@happiness72
8 hours ago (edited)
My gratitude for truth!
Thank you Tucker Carlson for your honesty about Russia and it’s capital Moscow !
It’s very very beautiful!
I watched your interview with Russian President V.V. Putin! I am from Donbass and saw that the Ukrainian Armed Forces attacked the peaceful Donbass in the spring of 2014! I went to Russia and became refugee, now I am Russian citizen!
And only 8 years after repeated attempts at a peaceful settlement, Putin V.V.
was forced to start a self-defense campaign to PROTECT CIVILIENT CITIZENS OF DONBASS!
I really want Russian victory in the current war and peace in whole world!
But for now, the consumer format of society, wars and crises, as part of the economy, are artificially created by Western elites!
It is necessary to change the format of society in every country of the world to a creative one, then the most important and valuable thing will be human life and science and everything will be for the benefit of man and society, environmental problems will be solved and future global cataclysms will be prevented!
As President V.V. Putin correctly noted, science and security should be common to all humanity on Earth!
Let it be creative society!
Where all humankind united!
Where main value is a human life!
And our Earth is Motherland for us!
Where first of all is safety!
No boundaries!
We are all together!
Without cataclysms
We’ ll start new page!
And we will live in Golden Age!
We need to create a public request for a Unified International Scientific Center in order to find a solution to the global problems of ecology and climate change due to the 12 thousand year cycle of disasters!
We are people and we want to live in a world without wars and disasters in our future, in peace around the world, the world in a fair and safe creative society!
We have a responsibility to our children, to our future! WE MUST SAVE US AND OUR CHILDREN AND OUR PLANET EARTH!!!
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@jelena2222
1 day ago
Is Carlson fluent in Russian? I noticed that Putin is connected to a translator, he answers in Russian and he waits with his answer until he gets Carlsons questions/comments translated. But how come Carlson does not have any tool to understand Putin?

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@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
And learn how to listen

@jeffreymorris735
17 hours ago
We can all see how outmatched Biden is compared to Putin ! Putin is coherent Biden is not

@cindyzbinden7683
1 day ago
Inflation in the US is actually around 12 – 13%
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@Ithoughtthiswasamerica
8 days ago
This might be the craziest and most compelling thing I’ve ever seen on YouTube
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@carlosquintero09
7 hours ago
The interview of the year
and a lot of true on Putin’s part
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@jobnob3740
4 hours ago (edited)
46:22 – a bit disgusting moment, but translation made it even worse: what Putin said can be translated as “maybe that was for a reason” or so, but totally not “we should thank god”

@tomdurover
11 hours ago
How would it feel to be with Putin one on one

@handmadecraft5276
11 hours ago
You are very brave person Tucker ! As russian, I like this interview with our president.
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@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
Be slow on your words

@airiakdrakkhen
8 days ago
Bravo, Mr. Carlson! Wonderful interview.
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@JackBrilla
8 hours ago
Shay Should interview Putin Next

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@benjamintaukel8127
1 day ago
1.Shout out 2 the translater,what a great job ( btw i’am from Germany & understood almost everything) + 2. My favorite Question was: Who blew up Nordstream?
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@azfam520
18 hours ago
Tucker Carlson drives thru traffic slappin “Slav Life” 100 percent!!

@williwiebe2198
2 hours ago
It seems to that TC is like a first grade student and Putin is like University graduate. That is tha gap of knowledge and understanding. No offence to TC.

@kiravia
3 hours ago
I am from St. Petersburg (the Northern capital of Russia). Russia is the best and strongest power in the world, everyone needs to visit this country. Those who live in the USA or Europe, DO NOT BELIEVE THE TV AND WHAT YOUR GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU!!!! Russia is not an occupying country, we are not fascists, not nationalists, we just help our neighbors from Donbass who have been bullied for 9 years by the Kiev regime. There are kind people in Russia who will always help you or tell you the time or how to get to a particular place. Love Russia, we are for peace and against the mockery of the Russian population by Ukraine, I hope you are too)
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@eachandeverything1836
9 days ago (edited)
THANK YOU for this interview Tucker! God Bless you, your family …… GOD BLESS TEXAS and GOD BLESS AMERICA I would also like to add THANK YOU to Mr. Putin for giving Mr. Carlson this interview.
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@Kevin-cc6hw
4 hours ago
Ich nehme alles zurück was ich über diesem Mann gesagt habe.
Jetzt da er argumentiert und begründet & sogar beweist habe ich ein ganz anderes Bild von ihm und find ihn sogar extrem sympathisch.
Habe viel von dem was er erzählt hat nicht gewusst da ja auch viele unoffizielle sachen dabei waren.
Ich denke er wird einfach mit offenen Karten spielen weil er einfach kein bock mehr auf dieses ganze scheiße gelaber von Deutschland und den Amerikanern hat.
Also ich kann ihn irgendwo echt sehr sehr gut verstehen!
Habe seine Kriegsstrategien verfolgt und jetzt mach auch einfach alles Sinn, er will einfach sein Teil vom Land wieder weil sich die Ukrainer und das restliche EU gesindel sich wieder nicht an abmachungen halten können.
Da würd ich ehrlich auch ausrasten aber gut das er nicht übertreibt und sich unter kontrolle hat.
Danke für die Aufklärung Herr Putin.
Wäre irgendwie interessant mehr davon zu erfahren in einem Interview aber wird eh niemals kommen
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@abdulkarimalmukhometov1647
3 hours ago
Ребят, вам нужен адекватный президент. Надеюсь вы сделаете правильный выбор на выборах. Всем нам мира и добра !

@MuhammetKara-
16 hours ago
Please, someone translate this interview into Turkish.

@josephdivineande8085
4 hours ago
Putin is such an intelligent person. I love the way he articulates his case.
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@Hamo_Danielyan
4 hours ago
Ara Carlson inchka mer Putini het?
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@iiyyxxnn
9 days ago
I love how even though he can’t understand that tucker sits there and pays attention, instead of looking around disrespectfully while putin speaks. Great show of respect and honor.
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@user-eo4sh9cl9c
7 hours ago
Thank you, Mr Tucker ! you are trying to show the truth. We are waiting for you again in
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@jacobwomble
23 hours ago
I like President Putin’s ideology. But i really want to admire Tucker maintaining a reinforced, positive, facial expression for hours while not speaking LOL!

@TheKopalhem
5 hours ago
54:18 – is it “early THIS year” or “LAST YEAR”? Mr Putin clearly says “last year” in Russian, so his words have probably been mistranslated
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@toochunky
1 day ago
What a pity that the final scene of the film “interview” was not repeated. It would be a service to the whole world. Tucker would have become a hero in many countries and would have been immortalized
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@user-sx6iv9hl1h
12 hours ago
the best outcome of this,? inplementing a judge instead of a president in ukraine… and the goverenment with act like a court of law b/w nato and russia

@CoLtHH
7 days ago
This needs to be translated into several languages so that everybody can watch it
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@saadfadel924
17 hours ago
Tucker is at the peak of stress and fear

@markgoodwin7809
1 day ago
I’m not military but loved this content! Very descriptive and creepy!
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@rohith7605
18 hours ago
LONG LIVE RUSSIA
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@BigNacho90
1 day ago
I can’t fathom how much of a story teller putin is lol.

@user-gu7wy3qj9x
8 hours ago
would usa feel a threat if russia made mexico a member of a military aggressive alliance and tried to built military bases that could launch missiles that could hit new york or los angeles? i guess so…
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@mastrorio1
8 days ago
Holy. Fu@&ing shit. Tucker you have the balls of a clydesdale. Thank you for this excellence in journalism. It reminds me of the type of interview I might’ve seen when I was a kid.
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@wayfarer1101
14 hours ago
Whatever we think of the interview, ONE thing is sure:
Putin is dropping a lot of comments, which content I have NEVER heard alluded to by Western MSM! Definitely puts quite a different perspective on Western governments’ media spin.

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@zakmoffitt1537
14 hours ago
I’m a poor 31 year old East Tennessean and I believe him. I hope we stop sending Ukraine money. I wonder if life in Russia is better than manufacturing work here doing a robots job.Watching this interview makes me wanna switch sides and be in a country with a real leader.
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@JohnTytor
12 hours ago (edited)
The topic of Russian history has not been revealed.

@nakedbunjie
1 day ago (edited)
This is all super interesting. I’m aware of the older historical events of the region. Is there trustworthy fact checks to confirm Putin’s story here? I’ve never been sympathetic toward Russia. Growing up through much of the cold-war it is not in my nature to believe anything from Russia, especially an ex-KBG officer. This interview has me leaning towards understanding why Russia took such a great risk. But I’m skeptical that any of it’s true. That being said, I also trust nothing from the US Gov nor NATO. So where does this leave us? Furthermore, I’m 100% behind stamping out Naziism in whatever dark place it resides. Socialism almost as bad.

@user-oe4db9bb1k
17 hours ago
Люди даже в пророков божьих камни бросали… Везде находят изъяны вернее ищут …
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@robertclark3351
8 days ago
Wow, I need time to process this entire conversation; I had no idea Putin had that depth of worldwide understanding or insight. It didn’t come off to me as rehearsed or honesty, propaganda. Thank you Tucker for taking the risk of doing this controversial interview and asking the hard questions. That took balls Sir.
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@olgad854
23 hours ago
Dear Tucker Carlson, Thank you for the interview with our President Vladimir Putin! It was very joyful that the whole world could hear us! Russia is exactly what President Putin said. Thank you to him for leading our huge country so competently, for his work, courage, and determination. You are a very good journalist, truthful, honest. I pray to God for you to be safe after this interview. Have a nice day, Mr. Carlson!
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@ConfusedBobsleigh-to9lv
1 day ago
Very very interesting and I never seen Mr president putin speaking so much an the interview. This journalist he’s lucky enough to get the pure information
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@jamman7344
2 hours ago
Confirmation of what I already knew from when I lived in Germany

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@andrewschaeffer1660
1 day ago
so thats why putin played around with elon musk like he was an idiot when musk stupidly thought he could just buy these hypersonic missiles from russia that were specifically designed to overcome the US defense systems though musk probably had no interest in sharing info on it to the US it was precaution.

@Chacklas_Makamu
7 hours ago
Who is translating for Tucker course he had no ear-piece, or perhaps he knows Russian?

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@jorgeiturbe953
8 days ago
Thank you Mr Carlson for being a true impartial reporter
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@oliviaboateng3579
7 hours ago
Potin is such a gentleman, articulate, know how and very wise
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@VK-fd2sg
1 day ago
Greetings from Siberia! When the people of Russia and the USA start to become friends and visit each other – then no one will listen to politicians and they will stop lying!!!!! Welcome to one of the most beautiful cities in Siberia – Tomsk!!!
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@skdesertfun1
17 hours ago
The US has more important things to do than to fund or get involved in the Russia Ukraine war, we should be taking care of our southern border.
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@user-gm2ds2ti1r
1 day ago
Моих 6 друзей на войне . Сами захотели и пошли. Вероятно, что и я пойду, помочь своим друзьям, которые уже там. Знаю ещё человек 5, которые сами пошли, без принуждения. Таких много, Морская Пехота везде…
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@jodyzannoni
22 hours ago
EBS happening

@kimbryan2014
9 days ago
as a Canadian I wish this wonderfull leader could have talked some sense into our foolish Prime Minister hopefully we head to the poles again and vote in a leader that exercises more wisdom in his decisions
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@travwold7669
1 day ago
Watching this many days later. Putin and social media says this was a sold ball interview. As a simple man in the USA I thought it was a great conversation. I learned a lot and I’m married to a Russian women. ( adopted, not mail order)
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@patrickgerard8011
13 hours ago
I can’t decide if Putin is just insane or playing a character
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@Khaozreigns
18 hours ago
1:51:12 A ghost in the back to the right of the clock hehe.

@zeegermans
1 day ago
And then he got so excited after giving this phenomenal interview that he decided to kill a political opponent in his own prison. What an example of a leader, what a sympathetic person that he locks up those who dare to challenge him. The fact that so many people seem to admire that behavior here is absolutely mind-boggling. Need I remind you why your ancestors stormed the beaches of Normandy? Hint: it wasn’t to lock up political opponents.
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@AaronBowersable
11 hours ago
when you realize the Russians don’t forget!

@MsMinusch
8 days ago
Watching from Switzerland.
Tucker, oh my!
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@ianyshka
1 day ago (edited)
Из России с самыми теплыми пожеланиями! Мы хотим сохранить свою страну, мы любим ее и мы будем стоять за нее, но если вы к нам приедете с добрыми намерениями, будьте уверены – вы сможете обрести очень много настоящих друзей среди русских. Приезжайте с добром и мы будем рады видеть вас в России
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@innakarpyuk4756
1 day ago
As A Ukrainian I tell you :-tucker doesn’t understand : how much evil they did to us throughout history – “peace is not a absence of a war but absence of Kremlin “ he didn’t see evil in him . That is unfortunate.
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@McSquirts
7 hours ago
It’s all apart of the plan

@erthfxce_music
26 minutes ago
Tucker needed a zyn so badly after the first hour lmao

@KonstantinKr1
1 hour ago
Chicha varkin
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@carlsaint2841
7 days ago
The best interpreter I have ever had the pleasure of listening to. Respectful kudos to him.
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@ellabender1808
1 day ago
Such a deep interview. Knowledge of world history can never be underestimated, as it teaches us the consequences of certain actions and decisions. No wonder why radical left are trying to rewrite it and no wonder it’s not seriously taught in schools. So glad to hear about the chain of events from Russian side and not from American msm propaganda . Thanks Tucker!
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@dm7732
9 hours ago
Should Alaska prepare now?
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@shotlikeharden233
1 day ago
Thanks Tucker
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@kevinashley478
2 hours ago
I am only 11:00 minutes into the interview, and i got to say, he doesnt seem like the crazed madman that the media makes him out to be. That doesnt mean he cant be a dick, but i mean, damn, he is covering 1,000 years of history to explain the Ukrainian and Russian issue. We have what? About 250 years? If I were a Russian, i probably wouldn’t view him as a psychopathic manifestation of evil. But i have to admit, i didnt major in Russian culture or politics, so i may be talking out my ass.
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@JomsvikingjR
14 hours ago
What was bro yapping about?
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@ashleyraines618
8 days ago
Watched from Florida. Thank you Tucker!God Bless Earth
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@Jacobfitzner
3 hours ago
Tucker being called out for wanting to join the CIA

@hugehappygrin
5 hours ago
Tucker, you may not like the LDS, or you may feel nothing about them.
Putin said that Russia practices religious tolerance.
Does that mean that he will allow an LDS temple in one of the major cities?
I left that faith 15 years ago, so I’m neither advocating nor defending.

@FreeMusic54
16 hours ago
What’s wrong with Putin’s left foot?

@blackriveroutfitters7185
1 day ago
Perhaps Putin has forgotten that Stalin and Hilter were collaborators/allies until they had a falling out.
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@orthodoxboxing9159
22 hours ago
What a G

@heloxyz1
9 days ago (edited)
Watching from India,Thank
You Tucker Carlson.
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@vitalimpactsevengroup6324
13 hours ago
Love your question what of the supernatural? Are these forces non-human? Is God at work regarding? V.I.
(Don’t Believe he’s the one to ask because of long standing traditional Orthodox and faith in the natural realm so to speak approach.

@desertmonsoon1
2 hours ago
No wonder Putin and Trump got a long so damn well. They both dodge direct questions by circling around it for 30 minutes. Having never answered it to the smallest degree.

@creasedpluto1905
3 hours ago
Ngl this was disappointing thought it would be way better

@MosesMcVeigh
9 hours ago
excellent. I have to search lots of background infos to catch it up.
i always consider putin the best leader in the world simply according to his knowledges and his visions.
if i were the journalist，i can do twenty hours of this at least，Tucker is fine.but he is too western.
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@user-pr8my7zb1f
15 hours ago
Я русская , все кого я знаю никто не желает войны ни с кем нигде
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@coldwhispers9187
8 days ago
This is one hell of an interview and answers so many questions. Tucker, this was amazing! Listening to Putins Answers were informative things I did not know about Russia. I loved this!
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@xcaliber6974
1 day ago
Carlson basically just sat there like a child being lectured to in the principles office. As always, he looked as though someone was holding a small turd under his nose.

@atkinsth
1 day ago
All these 2hrs made me add some love to the great Putin…lovelyso amazing Thank you Tucker for such a great revealing interview of what is really going on and what is about to happen in the future
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@giarrigi
1 day ago
What’s the deal with everyone showing St. Basil’s cathedral as the Kremlin?

@YVO007
4 hours ago
Ukraine peoples have been identified as being found to be an advanced pastoral & crop farming civilization Flat Fact”…! Academically dug up from the thawing permafrost northern Ukraine, a whole village where there was also a tattooed woman dressed in woven cloth. Homes complete with a main community building back when most collectives of humans did not practice home building never mind keeping a farm. On top of this so obviously a matriarch society who both respected the character of their people enough to adorn their leader with such ornate decorations and cloth dated back using many if not all academic methods and restrictions as 6000BC.

@sheila4650
3 hours ago
Calling this an interview is a bit of a stretch

@saintgaiseric3331
9 days ago
Hello, my American friends, Russian here!
I hope this interview will help our countries to exchange thoughts, despite the diplomatic relations we have now. And I wish you, as we say in our country, a peaceful sky above your heads!
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@dm7732
12 hours ago
To be fair, now he should go to Ukraine and take an interview with Zelenskyy.

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@MrColors23
23 hours ago
Could’ve been an interesting interview. Instead, Putin rambles on about history and Tucker giggles like a school girl when Putin shuts him down.

@maximshumaylovmaxim_energi5591
5 hours ago
Putin
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@Daviebhoy25cfc
1 day ago
59:55 Tucker didn’t like that tidbit. Zelensky is nothing more than a coked up actor literally playing the part of a Nations Leader.
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@sevi7301
16 hours ago
He was sincere in his interest to find out if he could join nato, however this does not say anything about if he actuqlly wanted to join. Well dodged the question

@SolidKnight64
7 days ago
“No one will be able to seperate the soul.” …
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@DrDoomy123
18 hours ago (edited)
Sadly this was not a real interview. Tucker just gave Putin a platform to spout his propaganda. Putin wasn’t challenged on any of the key issues and in the rare instances Tucker did try to ask tougher questions Putin changed topic or avoided it altogether.
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@timomomomo969
1 day ago
Here we have the spectacle of being played like a fiddle while being completely unaware
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@no_one2197
5 hours ago
Like it or not, this WILL be on history books.
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@LuizFelipe-wo9hx
23 hours ago
I mean, putin is being very sincere. He wants to keep the influence over the ukranian territory because of historical, cultural and safety issues.
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@rubengarcia7265
23 hours ago
You guys put russia first america second

@DaMadDad
8 days ago
Love it or hate it. This is journalism!
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@1qa827
1 day ago
PURE MADNESS
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@Deep-Sarcasm
1 day ago (edited)
I think I know why some are having such trouble finding this. 3rd option in my search. The history lesson. Tucker fans don’t want knowledge (although this is a tad biased by putin)
Tucker fans don’t even want this, his most impressive attempt at real journalism. They want Tucker to tell them what to think. Not brain pain from information. And it might make them question whether the US is a perfect little angel on the world stage or not.
I’ve never seen tucker shut up so well. Honestly not a terrible job. He did ask some presumptuous, rude, questions. But overall, for him, pretty good.
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@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
With the way you speak carry yourself and your behaviours

@nellomora12
1 day ago
What a charming tyrant
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@user-tk5mi1si8n
7 hours ago
Meanwhile Katt Williams interview stacked 50+ mil. views
in a few days…

@user-jh6lw7ci2g
8 days ago (edited)
Waching from Cyprus….long live to you brave man mr Tucker
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@EricPeelMusic
1 day ago
In case anyone is confused about how Tucker can respond in realtime: The translation is occurring in realtime locally with a high-quality mic which picks up no reverb. Interview mics are muted while the translator speaks. So its really the translator’s as well as Tucker’s performance that make this such a perfect production. As well as post-production mics being muted. Why Putin prefers an earpiece over a translator himself? Because he’s fluent in English therefore doesn’t need one. The earpiece has almost nothing to do with the interview. He needs to hear whats going on at all times elsewhere, which he’s able to listen to and process while carrying out the interview.
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@jeaninevalentijn9764
11 hours ago
How would it work out if the USA leaves NATO, and Russia in exchange leaves Ukraine (incl. Donbass etc.) ?

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@mechabasutto8228
7 hours ago

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@kimo5059
1 day ago
I actually think Carson did a quite good job containing himself. Putin really is a narcissist and he actually comes across even worse than I’d thought he would. He really is deluded and impossible to reason with or argue with. He is right no matter the facts.
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@grumpdogg213
1 hour ago
Interviewing his boss

@batmandestroys1978
9 days ago
This is not CNN, this is Tucker Carson Network!
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@koketsomokone2975
16 hours ago
One thing thats clear from this interview is that Putin has no desires to return to “Soviet Russia”

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@irfanmalik-fo6rh
1 day ago
An exceptional leader, highly intelligent, not only addressed the queries but also enlightened the Western world and the USA. He effectively dispelled the fear-mongering propaganda surrounding a Russian invasion. I trust this will instill rationality in the general populace.
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@timmc4664
1 day ago
Now everyone has to move back to Africa since we all come from there 6,000,000-2,000,000 years ago.
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@000xio
1 day ago
The former president of Mongolia was inspired by Putin and rolled out a historical map of his country. In order to remind (jokingly) that the entire modern territory of the Russian Federation SHOULD BELONG to the descendants of Genghis Khan.
“I found a historical map of Mongolia. Don’t worry. We are a peaceful and free nation,” Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj tweeted …
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@_highlyunlikely_
13 hours ago
Sosia!

@roccocarlino933
9 days ago (edited)
This is FREEDOM OF SPEECH
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@oliverdelgaram-nejad
10 hours ago
46:10 Putin makes quite a personal jab at Tucker’s CIA aspirations here: ‘thank God they didn’t let you in. I understand, it’s quite a serious organisation’. It’s quite interesting to see how Putin pairs background knowledge and psychological low blows. He was coming across as quite measured and sincere up until this point. Seemed like quite a mean comment.

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@IliaSuchcow
19 hours ago
Теперь и Григорий Малкоф может вдыхать свободный воздух Америки.

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@freakman12345
1 day ago
You should go to Gaza to reveal the true stories about the people there.
What kind of life have they had for the past several decades?
Then ask for ceasefire.
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@ALittleLessPiratey
12 hours ago
I’m happy that Tucker has decided to do this interview, if there was more talking like this there would be less war
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@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
Although i do love you you look amazing

@rc….
7 days ago
If Tucker interviewed Biden, we would need such a skilled translator as well ! And if the interview lasted 2 hours, He would need a 90 minutes nap in between.
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@nastarinaccessories5528
1 day ago
Legend journalist

@eddyrose2430
1 day ago
Good stuff right here

@user-tu5te7le9j
15 hours ago

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@user-mc4fl6ql1o
1 day ago (edited)
Как такое возможно, что в первые сутки было 100 миллионов просмотров, а сейчас, спустя неделю стало 17 миллионов просмотров?
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@HP_lovecrafts_cat
1 hour ago
why didn’t you ask about the wagner coup?

@Nupagade246
9 days ago
Thank you Tucker this was AWSOME!!!!
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@ellaskinner8507
12 hours ago
Tucker be like, “why did you invade Ukraine?” Putin be like: “1.5 billion wears ago when the big bang happened (3 hours later) then comes about a dude called Oleg in the 13th century ” xo

@tuckerevans1587
17 hours ago
Respect gained for both sides.
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@joshcamacho6342
8 hours ago
He got the trump tan
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@choyon2924
1 day ago
Powerful Leader Vladimir Putin
with Powerful Journalist
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@spygee__
3 minutes ago
how are you not ?

@user-fv2xc4sl6w
9 days ago
This interview will go down in the history books!!!
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@surviainen6979
1 day ago
It has been part of Russian culture since Mongol times that challengers to the leader do not survive. Prigozin died last summer. Now this price has been paid by opposition leader Aleksei Navalnyi.RIP.
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@lumbinipathirage733
10 hours ago
Tucker did a good job. This will enlighten people of US and hope that the world will be a better place. By the looks of it, few old idiots like Borris did this to the world.
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@azanshukor428
10 hours ago
okay next interview Netanyahu .. why he killed Palestinians
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@FireOX_aka_Syndicate.
1 day ago
Я рад, что США начинает нас понимать))
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@sevi7301
16 hours ago
Electorate with positive relations towards russia – basically saiyng we accepted the independence of ukraine as long as they had people in power that we could control but ones that was not possible anymore we took crimea…

@blueash8208
8 days ago
Watching from senegal legendary interview thanks mr tucker
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@MrJetexjim
11 hours ago
In Putin’s history lesson he neglects to mention that when the city of Kiev was founded Moscow was little more than a village. Too bad Carlson didn’t think to ask Putin why Kiev should be ruled from Moscow.

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@stanleysessor6993
14 hours ago
He made Tucker look like a useful idiot. Putin had know respect for him. He finds Tucker and Trump to be useful.
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@igoradamovich505
22 hours ago
God made a law sayin the bigger you wanna be smaller you will get

@alanchen6625
1 day ago
Putins more educated than any US president

@jaycoc7026
20 hours ago
Tucker not southern dont put this on us

@abdimuhumedaden1930
8 days ago
Watching from Kenya thank you mr Carlson for bringing this.
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@polarisjustdothework2258
23 hours ago
We are forcing our children to kill each other over dirt. Regardless of how legitimate our claims are to any lands, it always boils down to idolatry. idolatry over dirt….
This may sound crazy on your first read, but God lays out His ways in the Bible very clearly. Bowing down to the rule of kings or presidents or any other label of ruler is against God’s will for us.
And so is the killing of innocence over dirt!!! We send our children as sacrifices. Sacrifices for the rule of man and land that we claim is worth dying for. It is a false sense of security and a false sense of power, and it breaks God’s heart!!!

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@fantomSilver
13 hours ago
Finally
A worthy dialog between two educated and impressive Men
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@yogiine
5 hours ago
Im norwegian.. but i dont like nato. These love wars.
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@LarisaTrus
1 hour ago
Я живу в России, моя семья многонациональная: русские, украинцы, белорусы, и при этом каждый из нас считает себя русским. Я люблю свою Россию. Каждый русский в моей стране не хочет вреда Украине, мы сострадаем простым людям, которые сейчас гибнут при военных действиях. Это вина американских политиков, смерть молодых мужчин России и Украины лежит на совести Америки. Благодарю Такера за честность.
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@Alaskovi
57 minutes ago
Its like talking to Hitler and getting a lecture on ‘Aryan’ history.

@MiMi-sz7de
9 days ago
Greetings from Germany. IT is RIGHT to talk with the russian President. Great and this was so important Thank you Tucker Carlson.
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@tra-viskaiser8737
7 hours ago
Finally some actual intellect and journalism…
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@user-ew6ig9yu9j
1 day ago
Лучшее интервью чтоб лбди в мире открыли глаза
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@sheila4650
3 hours ago
The concerned face is hilarious and pathetic
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@Henry-the-Eight
1 day ago
Great interview with a very intelligent leader so greatly misunderstood by stupid Western governments
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@Jesusisking516
1 day ago (edited)
I wish for world powers to realize how bad is playing with living beings for material things. In the end every knee will bow to Jesus Lord.

@tommymeissner5978
8 days ago
Ive been watching this for 2 hrs and i have watched the views
go from 400k to over a million.
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@RocksanaTalks
1 day ago
From Russia with love!
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@user-xn6lq6ob9y
5 hours ago (edited)
Dear Tucker, we wish you to become the President of the USA, the imminent President, using your words, as soon as possible, no one except you
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@lizamarieliteral9544
20 hours ago
Brilliant President..
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@jeffreyknitt7358
1 day ago
Next I’d like to see a sit down with Joe Rogan about this interview, I’m sure there would be interesting Dialogue

@user-fm2iw3um3u
3 hours ago
Good interview.
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@TSD0416
8 days ago
I’m not sure if there are awards for translators, but if there is, the gentleman who translated the entire interview should receive the highest honour. I speak three languages myself (English, German and Farsi/Persian) and I translate news for my parents all the time, it’s not an easy task to remember everything and every word.
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@GamerModz123
1 day ago
The modern Russian people evolved out of the Rus people who were literally called the Kievan Rus. They were a mixture of Norse, Baltic, Slav, and eventually eastern Eurasian people. The regions of Ukraine that kicked off this war were inhabited by Russian Ukrainians for centuries. They were always Russian linguistically and culturally.
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@FernandoRodriguez-jq6yp
17 hours ago
Putin is the perfect example of a narcissist.
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@studzi7892
8 hours ago
Yall think Tucker got a Zyn in the upper deck rn?
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@kevinashley478
1 hour ago
One hour into the interview, and I am disgusted. Whatever good the CIA and FBI do, it is offset and overwhelmed by all the damage they do. Like him or not, agree or disagree, Putin did what any responsible leader should do. He perceived a threat, tried many times to go through the diplomatic channels, but when everyone turned their backs, he did what he believed was necessary to protect his country and its assets. It would be fantastic if we had a president that put our country before others. We had one, but he said mean words so clearly we had to change him out with the most incompetent president in the history of this country. Not to mention that history will record him as the only president thay managed to do EVERYTHING wrong; he hasnt done a single thing that was good, right, satisfactory, ok, or even not completely bad/wrong. I wish we had a leader like Putin.
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@edwardescalante4751
1 day ago
Hey they are correct we should get our self involved. Our taxes are paying for everything

@laliedutoit
8 days ago
Brilliant Interview and the translator – give that man a gold medal!
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@Sohelanthropus
7 hours ago
Thank you Tucker for reporting stuff like this, the world nowadays is ruled by rats and people with high schemes
It’s good, and necessary, to be informed about what’s going on in this planet, we’re all living here and nowhere else at the end of the day
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@juliedepp8470
1 day ago
Russians cannot be defeated, they are strong and persistent.They love their homeland.They are for truth and honor. For my family and for my traditions. They are kind and stubborn! A Russian person will always find the truth.

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@terryhayes6294
3 hours ago
OK.. here names halely n she rocks hèart

@olliegarcia2306
9 hours ago
Man this is awesome I’m team Russia now!! Who’s with me!!!??
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@Livinlivin836
1 day ago
Tucker Carlson swears he remembers everything, let him talk and others listen. He’s being very rude

@jaysmith2151
8 days ago
Watching from Florida thank you Tucker.
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@EsKaioS
10 hours ago (edited)
I’m glad someone’s finally showed/told the other side of the story, instead of another rage-bait article trying to paint Russia as the next Japan/Germany starting a world war. Hopefully we get more answers but from the other side: if/why NATO actually doesn’t want Russia to join, Ukraine’s perspective on ‘breaking’ the treaties, and of course whoever is in charge of this in the US.
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@user-uz4qn6nt7b
1 day ago
Navalny, we will never forget you. Justice will be served
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@ali_ah_alo12th
11 hours ago
Most views
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@shadesofpurple7283
20 hours ago
This interview will be remembered for a very long time. I just think it’s sad that tucker felt like putin was wasting time in his answers. People can agree with Putin or not but no one can deny he is rational, articulate and intelligent.
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@softwhiskey8240
16 hours ago
why would he even interview a criminal with 80iq?
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@irinaa2688
7 days ago
You know, brother, the power is in the truth. Whoever has the truth is stronger.
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@user-wn5rv7hl3l
15 hours ago (edited)
My Russia stands tall and proud!
And how the West did cheer,
When a brute with a face like a brick,
Drank Russia dry, like a beer.
In a drunken stupor, he’d declare,
“We’ll drink it all away!”
And the Yankees rubbed their hands with glee,
“Soon we’ll finish them off, they say.”
But one came forth, not tall in height,
With a clear and steady gaze,
“Go forth,” said God, “I’ll be your guide,”
And so he went his ways.
He asked for strength from God above,
Without fanfare, fuss, or talk,
He shouldered Russia’s broken form,
Upon his frail and humble stalk.
And so, Mother Russia was reborn,
And grew stronger day by day,
But the West’s friends began to wail,
And shriek in wild dismay.
America gnashes its teeth,
They cannot comprehend,
That this man will never disgrace,
His beloved native Mother Russia.
And over the world, he stands so tall,
With a smile both bright and true,
Unconquerable Prince Vladimir,
A worthy son of Holy Rus!
Greetings to all the good people of the world from Russia, with love! Peace to the world!
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@mark_pherz
1 day ago
The fact that many people praise the translator without realizing that the translation was done in post production and it’s not the translation Tucker heard during the interview itself gives a great insight into the average IQ of Fox News and Tucker’s content consumers
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@thomas-zs2jm
15 hours ago
Nobody:
Putin: class is now in session

@laurak8697
1 day ago
History lecture made me laugh and angry same time. Putin is complete lunatic
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@igoradamovich505
23 hours ago
Go to school first before askin someone about ukraine america invaded more worlds than anyone
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@rhena229
8 days ago
Watched the entire 2 hours. Fascinating!
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@danjohn2365
1 day ago
Tucker is sounding like a total CIA Asset in this one! So far Tucker is IGNORING the mass murder of Russian speaking Eastern Urkanians by the Porashanko and Zelensky regimes!

@nh7650
1 day ago
Alexei Navalny, does a serious journalist who interviews Putin, ask about him? Shame on you Tucker….
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@user-uz4qn6nt7b
1 hour ago
Mr PUdding

@TehXilee
14 hours ago
I love how people are trying to label Carlson as a potential collaborator when you can clearly see he’s getting tired of Putin talk about shit that stretches all the way back to the 1300s. Man’s just asking questions and letting the interviewee speak for themselves, like an actual journalist should.
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@ETz-RYANH.
14 hours ago
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@lisabunk6762
8 days ago
This one will go into history. Watching from the Netherlands
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@dl2.504B
1 hour ago
Corrupt politicians of our tyrannical government have implemented the idea of hating Russia and it’s leaders for so long, it’s hard for people to understand Putin, and naturally people hate him. I actually like Putin and respect him as a person and leader, he makes sense when he’s speaking about current events and politics and reasoning. He’s not such a terrible person the world (corrupt) leaders make him out to be.
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@yesterdayschunda1760
52 minutes ago
I find it hilarious that Putin speaks perfect English but refuses to because everyone thinks he sounds cute when he speaks English.

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@SaraLovesTea
1 day ago
I dont see a single tht this guy said tht doesnt make sense personally Im sick of the media twisting our arm. Can be real and anti war for once?
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@icelandviking1961
8 hours ago
Feb 17th and this has almost 18 million views
. I don’t think I have ever seen a video with that many views
in such a short time.
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@dqueezytv
1 hour ago
NATO would be tooo close

@savagegfry
7 days ago
“Nobody will be able to seperate the soul”!!
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@j.pierre2548
1 day ago
if you want a history lesson on Russia and Europe just watch this
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@cherylcallahan5402
1 day ago
Tucker and Putin seemed a good review

@ashaman81
23 hours ago
Ethical plastic surgeons don’t do breast enlargements until girls are in there early twenties at least due to the body still developing.

@ujjawaltyagi8540
1 day ago
It would be really great to sea what is the reaction of people of Ukraine on this interview and the things he said. Like obviously we can expect a variety of sentiments from public but still what really Ukrainian people think about these topics or are they being fooled by US and West sponsored media to hate russia.
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@kspades2530
10 hours ago
1:46:50 this is a good question. Could journalists ask this in the united states?
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@aliashfaque1746
7 days ago (edited)
I now understand why hilary panicked and created her own interview out of fear xD
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@breveennkukan3603
1 day ago
Enjoyed the interview. Putin is intelligent.
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@MLeeF123
23 hours ago
This is EXACTLY why President Trump showed Putin some level of respect. He is a military man, educated, knows his history, and is very capable of becoming lethal if we allow it. Why would we not try to mend relations and work with Russia rather than continue to throw money at a failing war? Putin is a strong leader and is well liked among Russians. I don’t understand why we continue to fight him.

@brindad1133
16 hours ago
LMFAO Putin thought he was a joke
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@KAVKAZEC_05
13 hours ago
Есть много президентов разных стран, и есть В.В. Путин. Таких как В.В. Путин больше не будет и я горд что он наш президент. Братский ему салам от всего народа Дагестана!
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@zindoria5680
1 day ago
We love you putin
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@TheColin10004
8 days ago
Watching from earth! Great job Tucker!
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@sighfly2928
1 day ago (edited)
Should have asked him about Navalny, to me his death is almost equivalent to Nelson Mandela being killed by the British on Robben Island. Let’s see what the Russian people can do…
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@Evan-ni7hb
12 hours ago
I’m sorry but why was tucker Carlson the interviewer for this? He didn’t ask tough questions and Putin walked all over him, Vladimir is a KGB shoulder first and wants the Soviet Union back, he doesn’t deserves Ukraine
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@kondziro
19 hours ago
Could use a second interview, to ask about navalny’s death. 47 years old direct politcal opponent dying in prison is not a good look.
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@HelenaVanCity
1 day ago
Tucker, your facial expression when you’re listening to President Putin is that of an intelligent dog No offence. I love dogs, and they’re real smart. Smarter than some presidents :))))))

@rosswhite9179
23 minutes ago
Good ol’ traitor tucker
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@bojowong2242
8 days ago
Watching from Philippines. Thank you tucker!
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@syednoumanshahabjilani1921
7 hours ago
Putin is an extremely intellectual person.
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@danieljoslin707
1 day ago
Well let’s be honest, Putin gives a better interview than Biden, at least it’s cognisent
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@paulc4302
11 hours ago
Putins ragdoll… “1 million years ago the planet was cooling”

@mohamedabdo9109
1 day ago
I absolutely love Vladimir Putin
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@smk6650
9 hours ago
I did notice him touch his nose as he said there was a video of aircraft attack Donbas in 2014 (47:33)

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@a.m.6499
8 days ago
Way to go, Tucker, luv you. Please be careful, not of Putin, but of USA
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@user-sp1rr4it9o
1 day ago
Американцы не понимают, что демократия у них заканчивается тогда, когда речь идет о внешней политике. Я как россиянин, переживал за Tucker Carlson, я бы не хотел чтобы он говорил только хорошее о нас, а то вдруг с ним что-то случилось бы в США. А так скажу, что Карлсон очень интересный и на мой взгляд, честный человек!
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@melutox
6 hours ago
This is the funniest interview I’ve seen in my life and I’m only 3 minutes in. I am literally crying of laughter. I can’t believe Putin is actually being serious and that just makes it even funnier.
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@Mulinby
4 hours ago
Tucker, come to Minsk and interview Lukashenko. They write a lot of lies about us too, except for you there is no one to tell the truth
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@rfilms9310
1 day ago
this century seems to be the century of taking back ancestral lands, i want spania and portugal back as they belong to my muslim ancestors for a millenia

@dflojr1
1 day ago
Putin got jokes. Putin told Tucker he was too goofy to join the CIA HAHA

@user-ml6go5uq8c
9 days ago
Congrats Tucker. Awesome job!!!
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@thomasjespersen2399
21 hours ago
After that beautiful history lesson by Putin, I say that Denmark just take back Norway, Sweden and some good chunk of Northern Germany. And maybe some of the Danish settlements in Iowa and Minnesota as well, since I noticed some neo-nazism there? After all, it is all in the history…

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@pawe7941
10 hours ago
Astolphe de Custine (francuski pisarz i podróżnik): „W Rosji, szczerość uważają za szaleństwo. To jest rozsądne! W istocie! Przecież całe rosyjskie życie we wszystkich sferach — to nieustanny zamach na prawdę. Dla Rosjan zdrajcą jest ten, kto nie kłamie. Odrzucenie kłamstwa traktowane jest jako zdrada państwa”.
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@ThornsOfOurTime
1 day ago
Suddenly every channel that spread this … is quiet about sudden departure of another man who opposed putin , hmmm
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@paprykazpapieru5716
13 hours ago
Pov : jesteś Polakiem/Polką i po przeczytaniu komentarzy Anglosasów odnośnie “wspaniałości putina” ( specjalnie z małej) nie możesz zadziwić się naiwności, ignorancji i niewiedzy na temat współczesnej rosji i jej historii. No chyba że są to ruskie trole, ale aż tyle ich matuszka rosija nie naprodukowała, oczywiście mogę się mylić.
Pozdrawiam

@mattc7166
22 hours ago
Carlson is such a joke. Even Putin made fun of him after.
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@muratmurat9906
8 days ago
Watching from Michigan state university. Auditorium is full. Bravo
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@barrydinh
1 day ago
“Хрен его знает”. Хахаха, давно так не ржал. Если вы заметили, Владимир Владимирович всегда по факту говорит и по факту так и было… Давайте мирно жить, но нет США нужно доминировать весь мир, особенно Россия кто не слушает и пугает. США всегда сует нос куда не надо.
Мир вам всем и здоровья из Вьетнама.
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@SleepyV3rt
1 day ago
Never though i’ll see a day when Americans are agreeing more with Putin than anyone else, I guess people can change…..

@jonathanpacemusic
1 hour ago
I hope you stay in Russia, you seem to like it a lot there!
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@ezekielmak5985
6 hours ago
Great work.Putin is the greatest president the world will ever see.
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@dieeinhorntester1835
18 hours ago
Crazy. So many things so untrue, it is unbelievable.
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@Rjtaylor12
9 days ago
Thank you Tucker! Great piece of real Journalism!
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@user-mp2wr5or9y
8 hours ago
Mr Putin sure is a true amasing Leader
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@Farbeyondhell
17 hours ago
God bless the soul of Alexei Navalny
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@user-in7tk8uq2r
11 hours ago
Putin could prolly sell me a Honda civic with 200k miles for $25,000

@nebulajumper6216
1 day ago
We can all have our feelings about Putin. But this guy knows his history.
I’d love to listen to Biden about the history of the United States. Knowing that this history is very short, compared to that of Europe.

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@russian_world_4ever
7 hours ago
Thanks for truth mr.Carlson.
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@Evocati-Augusti
9 days ago
This should have a million views
by tomorrow afternoon…
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@urthpainter
22 hours ago
this interview should be respected for it’s representation of free speech – But Tucker allowed himself to be owned and used by a foreign autocrat. Tucker was a submissive coward in the face of a real opportunity and got outmaneuvered in his own comfort zone. He should apologize for his lack of preparation and meek approach to this interview.
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@miranda7543
20 hours ago (edited)
I’m sorry but just watching a few minutes. P is a manipulator and an expert at it
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@thatskyphilosopher1936
8 hours ago (edited)
“This is a provocation and a cheap provocation at that. I do not understand why American soldiers should fight in Ukraine. Well, if somebody has the desire to send in regular troops, that would certainly bring humanity to the brink of very serious global conflict. This is obvious. Do the United States need this? What for? Thousands of miles away from your National Territory. Don’t you have anything better to do? You have issues on the border; issues with migration, issues with the national debt: more than $33 trillion. You have nothing better to do so you should fight in Ukraine? Wouldn’t it be better to negotiate with Russia? Make an agreement already understanding the situation that is developing today realizing that Russia will fight its in interest to the end? Realizing this actually return to common sense respecting our country and its interest and look for certain solutions. It seems to me that this is much smarter and more rational” – Vladimir Putin
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@darkultra
1 day ago
I wish the Russian people the best That is press freedom, better democracy, no wars and less Putin

@niseikayasso1588
16 hours ago
This interview is very interesting.
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@andyhelliwell4955
7 days ago
One thing that this interview and the comments about it shows, is how sick we all are of career politicians, and their endless corruption and lying. This goes for the media too.
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@steverapposelli6104
2 hours ago
Tucker, next time take Jane Fonda with you and you both can stay there together.

@user-wi4xj9pv5v
1 day ago
Гой ты, Русь, моя родная,
Хаты – в ризах образа…
Не видать конца и края –
Только синь сосёт глаза.
Как захожий богомолец,
Я смотрю твои поля.
А у низеньких околиц
Звонно чахнут тополя.
Пахнет яблоком и мёдом
По церквам твой кроткий Спас.
И гудит за корогодом
На лугах весёлый пляс.
Побегу по мятой стежке
На приволь зеленых лех,
Мне навстречу, как сережки,
Прозвенит девичий смех.
Если крикнет рать святая:
«Кинь ты Русь, живи в раю!»
Я скажу: «Не надо рая
Дайте родину мою».

@igoradamovich505
23 hours ago
Stop supplyin weapons lol

@jorgeserrano4395
7 days ago
Great interview
The world needed this interview
I hope there will be a second part
Excellent Tucker!!!
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@user-pg7qe7td7q
13 hours ago
Ya Vlad america is always trying to play cowboys and Indians with someone

@DavidCampbell-gu8zh
6 hours ago
Too much to keep up with

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@letcuth4182
8 days ago
I watched this interview last night with 200k viewer now it’s more than 8 million.
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@crackette2312
23 hours ago
WOW . Mr Carlson i watched this entire video. not that i like Mr Putin , he did have about 8 points of intrest .SAD part is the current Prez of the US could not do a 2 + hr interview with out help

@roychong5827
17 hours ago
it is really strange, weird and scary how there are only comments of praise…
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@jasonkauppinen3475
8 days ago
Watched from Canada. This interview needed to happen.
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@David-fu3yk
11 hours ago
Der Urknall beschreibt im Zeitstrahl der Urknalltheorie, die Bildung des Uratoms, in dem Raum, Zeit und Materie vereint sind. Somit ist es der Zeitpunkt „Null“. Die Urknalltheorie streckt sich hingegen bis auf 180 Millionen Jahre, bis die ersten Sterne entstehen.

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@neringamikol7781
23 hours ago
1:37:00 Oleksandr Semenovych Zelenskyy was born in Kryvyi Rih, Soviet Ukraine, on 23 December 1947. How was he fighting during the WWII?

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@Jxcbnnn
8 days ago
When I wake up tmr I better see this vid with 340 mil views
. Everyone in the U.S needs to watch this because this is journalism.
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@thebeginner7606
53 minutes ago (edited)
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@jaiparaskevas824
23 hours ago
I just sat through 2 hours of putin bullshitting. wonderful.
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@j3ll3ymonst3r
8 days ago (edited)
Watching from the UK. Bravo Tucker!!! Thank you
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@jeffwhitelock1013
1 day ago
Of course youtube trying to suppress this! as many views
this had it should have been top trending? You cant even find it by searching trucker putin
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@ricardodommisse8698
5 hours ago
Keep the formula Russia’yea yea ji

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@benkaram1024
7 days ago
First time in my life i watched the whole 2hrs interview .
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@puha_star
7 hours ago
Вы топ
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@FJRyder
8 days ago
One of the longest interviews i have ever watched through it’s entirety. Thank you Mr. Carlson
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@AustrianExpat
7 days ago
Europes Leaders are really highly incompetent. Its a tragedy.
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@AlexanderSander
9 days ago
I think this will be the most watched interview ever
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@DevonWildZillaTeschJr
9 days ago
1 Million subs! Congratulations Tucker well deserved!
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@Damian-117
8 days ago
Thank you, Tucker! Keep up the great journalism. Watching from Ireland.
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@ironshark6859
7 days ago
In Italy no one mainstream news channel has shown this interview with translation or subtitles…only some independent channel did it. Mainstream channels did only some titles that doesn’t represent the right concepts and theme of Putin speech. We live inside a bubble built by our elite.
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@arthurlewicki559
8 days ago
Watching from UK. Great interview
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@tesfayesuszinare939
8 days ago
Watching from Ethiopia, thank you, Mr. Carlson!
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@konstantinosgymnopoulos6654
8 days ago
Watching from Greece.
Thank you Tucker. Big fan.
Ευχαριστώ πολύ.
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@PatriotGirl24
9 days ago
What an excellent and informative interview. Thank you Tucker Carlson.
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@lc4817
8 days ago
Enjoyed him telling the Russian history. Thankyou.
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@andrewturner9760
8 days ago (edited)
How is this not trending on YouTube? Almost 7m views
in less than 18 hours…. The top trending video on YouTube has half of the views
with the same amount of time.
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@hazzah3104
8 days ago
Thank you Tucker from Australia
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@user-vg2ge1lx6j
9 days ago
Actual journalism, wonderful
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@gladysp2623
8 days ago
Thanks for making a difference- finally real journalism!
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@zamorochenny
9 days ago
Dear Mr Carlson. I am Russian and I wanna watch this absolutely important interview in Russian. Please, upload this video with Russian speech. We are so appreciate for you and sorry for my crappable English. Thank you!
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@zoraidaiglesias934
9 days ago
God we need you. Thank you Tucker for this interview
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@AlexGarcia-ke5oh
9 days ago
Peace be upon humanity. End wars. God bless all.
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@11dra1
8 days ago
Watching from OHIO, U.S.A. Well done Tucker!
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@michaelsuttree
9 days ago
Just finished the interview. You’ve now become legend. Incredible.
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@OO-uo2td
8 days ago
As an native speaking person, translation is outstanding. Great job to all crue.
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@jenkinboykz0
8 days ago
the translator is supreme. The cadence, word choice… amazing
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@chaoticallyorganizedd
9 days ago
Watching from Brazil! All my respect to a true journalist, something we, unfortunately, no longer have around here!
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@KorsarNik
8 days ago
Let’s see how in the next hours the media will cut the whole thing to shape a completely different story in a bite-size format. To present a completely different picture than you get watching an unfiltered interview.
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@irumf155
8 days ago
The world needed to hear this
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@monkeyearcheese420
8 days ago
45 now and I’ve never understood why we didn’t work together
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@broken_npc
8 days ago
Tucker has huge balls; cutting him off, calling him bitter, challenging him, asking for the guy they have to be released to him and let him take him back to the states and Putin considers it. Historical interview and risky.
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@ickn2005
8 days ago
I am very impressed, all around, by this interview. I am glad this happened, and that it is being shared unedited.
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@nicjoncon1266
8 days ago
Everyone should watch this
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@paintedhistory
8 days ago
The Translator did a wonderful Job..
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@hellboy9113
8 days ago
The translator is the real MVP. He must be under so much pressure
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@jenychoi6419
8 days ago
Watching from France! Thank you Tucker
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@en5788
8 days ago
Seems like he is being honest about how he perceives history and the current situation.
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@pierobuffa3549
8 days ago
watching from Sicily, Thank you Mr. Tucker…. just a little common sense to live peacefully
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@user-ni5sp6qq3p
8 days ago
Watching from Croatia. Amazing interview. Very good job!
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@nivaleth
7 days ago
its crazy that this is on youtube for free
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@Tom-zi9xw
8 days ago
I’m not even that old…and I remember when it was uncontroversial for a journalist to interview an “enemy of the United States”. They were just…ya know…doing their job.
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@artur.dxb_ru
7 days ago
182 Million views
on Twitter (X)
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@Drunkush
7 days ago
what I like about this interview is that he didn’t try to humiliate the west/nato for their doings. he is willing to take a dignified approach and come to the table.
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@ABC-48483
8 days ago
This will break the internet. Wow
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@jamesb7437
8 days ago
Watching from England, amazing interview and real journalism, something these days that is very rare indeed.
Imagine a British Prime Minister able to understand our history on such a level.
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@magnez2659
8 days ago
This interview will unite the people. Amazing job Tucker!
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@rendermanpro
8 days ago
The “historical part” was not about the land or territory, but about people who are actually living there. And that it is a one brotherhood nation, with friends, relatives, connections, as one entety that was artificially divided. In another words that conflict is not a land claim, but about people who are living in that area.
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@timkoff692
9 days ago
In the world of lies and propaganda this interview is a GEM
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@Richdaadie
7 days ago
Isn’t it odd how this video is not “trending” with the amount of likes on this interview
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@jojoeverycat7726
8 days ago
OMG This was a talk of the century.
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@frankregg9048
9 days ago
Watching from Taiwan, thank you Tucker!
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@Killajmj
9 days ago
Why would they want people not to know this?? Don’t they want peace?
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@jimhalpert0
8 days ago
If youtube promoted this as a normal viral video it’d have way more views
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@dumbgamedeveloper2273
7 days ago
Now I need a 2 hour interview from a Russian reporter with Biden, and talk about what is the best flavor ice cream he ever had!
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@link7935
7 days ago
I wish there was more to this. It was such an intriguing interview to watch! I hope, in the future, another interview can be done. Both parties was respectful to each other, and that’s quite refreshing in today’s climate.
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@user-ne7bp1ct2l
8 days ago
ありがとうございます!Good job from Japan
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@kokokiki6310
9 days ago
Well done Tucker. Finally some decent journalism.
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@cmdrindica4142
8 days ago
Watching at 3am in the UK. This is a HUGE step forward to normality. To Tucker and Elon.
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@SH3Bstanko6
7 days ago
probably the most crucial interview we needed to see!
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@gdvn007
7 days ago
Bạn rất dũng cảm, tôi e rằng bạn sẽ gặp rắc rối vì chuyện này. Nhưng từ Việt Nam chúng tôi vẫn rất ủng hộ bạn.
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@im9512
7 days ago
It’s amazing I follow the video and periodically read the comments. New comments fly like in an online chat, but the views
and their number almost do not increase I wrote a few comments and they are not I’m all upset. Thanks to Ilon for X
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@emelya30
8 days ago
I give the best to translator, he’s done great job. Word to word.
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@anitachisnell8412
8 days ago
Watching from UK, thank you!
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@vaelkocovan2848
8 days ago
Watching from London , thank you Carlson omg i was living a fake life so far
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@blackheartev5861
8 days ago
I think it’s time for all of the world leaders to sit down and have a serious talk about peace. This has gotten out of hand.
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@martinlobb3815
8 days ago
Very informative interview between two adults with brains
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@robertfair8872
8 days ago
Watching from Scotland, just wish everyone could get along life is too short. If you’re reading this, have a great day/night
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@jimmywrangles
8 days ago
Thanks from Australia Tucker you legend.
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@fazloen
8 days ago
Watching from South Africa
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@slardarov
8 days ago
Watching from Mars. Thank you Tucker
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@happybeeqmdj3764
8 days ago
Watching from Malaysia. Great interview!!!
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@wiggerlywoo
8 days ago
Amazing that Youtube hasn’t removed this yet!
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@medicinemanboxing3222
7 days ago
The interpreter needs a medal and a massive raise Immaculate job.
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@mrdarenkumar
9 days ago
Well done Tucker. Thank you for risking your life to show real journalism.
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@kanister21
8 days ago
When they came about NordStream pipeline, why no one mentioned that US threatened Germany with sanctions if NordSteam 2 will be start operation? I’m German citizen and I think this is the biggest political scandal of the century but no one really talks about it.
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@markobrien2241
1 day ago
Hisorical Lands – Can we have Northern Ireland back please

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@yusufahmed1636
9 days ago
From Somalia only Thanks Tucker for doing excellent journalism!!
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@kspades2530
10 hours ago
1:44:40 Yes it is non violent. But Jesus also told His disciples to go buy swords for what? To fish? Heck no. You must understand that humans already pervert every command of God, imagine if Christians didn’t rebuke and self defend we would get taken advantage off and finished off for our obedience to God which makes us polite and loving. Jesus knew this, hence the statement about praying for those who spitefully use us in the Sermon on the Mount, same sermon he said ‘turn the other cheek’. If a Christian never rebukes someone they are not loving as to allow that person to use them as tool for sinning and incurring the wrath of God all the more.
Luke 22:36 ““But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.” Jesus said this for self defence and most definitely a deterrent, as when Peter actually used his sword Jesus rebuked him and fixed that guy’s ear when Peter cut it off. So one must be ready to self defend but if someone pushes the line do not just stand there and let them use you a tool for their sinfulness or YOU are not loving.
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@skibbydweez2647
1 hour ago
No matter how much you want to downplay the views
you can’t hide comments !!!! YouTube
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@MorsalDude
8 days ago (edited)
Watching from sweden!! Thank you for this!!
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@mahmud8727
9 hours ago
ترجمة للغة العربية

@annalytvinova442
32 minutes ago
Give Putin a drink of water already, why he’s coughing all the time?

@happyerzya
8 days ago
I’m surprised youtube allowed independent voice to be heard
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@ggqbc
8 days ago
The ending put chills up my spine like no other interview ever has. Unbelievable
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@hydrasarthak246
21 hours ago

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@trinajones2070
8 days ago
Knowledge is power….

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@mufudzimachiya7952
18 minutes ago
17million views
and not trending, what is the US doing now

@EslamAbdo1919
7 days ago
it’s 4 O’clock in the morning here and i gotta go to work at 8 AM and here iam watching every second of this interview.
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@kspades2530
10 hours ago
1:21:35 Trump says this too

@RicondaRacing
7 days ago
Putin is quite the history buff, now let’s hear Biden explain that level of knowledge about the US… I’ll wait.
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@JuanGutierrez-ui7di
1 hour ago
Putin way different than trump and biden demeanor
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@opellouisedalsh5192
2 hours ago
Echelon interview…
Congratz to Tucker & Putin.
Since then Alexei Nalavny has died and Assange’s health is ailing…Going forward, i am hopeful Tucker lands PrisonReform interviews…in memory of the SingSingPrison warden Thomas Osborne who wanted prison reform greatly went into the prison’s cell bowel … and more than paper pushing prison reform happened.

@user-mt2wr7fs5i
7 days ago
This interview will go down in history
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@slimeblood-
22 hours ago
1:32:33 when the edible finally kicks in

@MrRcarrera
22 hours ago
Why doesn’t Carlson wear a translator, does he understand Russian?

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@TT-js4jn
8 days ago
Wow. I just witnessed history big time
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@ziddysuzi
22 hours ago (edited)
Putin
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@slasherflikk6073
11 hours ago
I could Listen to what putin says all day long….i couldnt Listen to what a member of my government says for even 5 Minutes
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@hozhipx
8 days ago
watching from ussr , thank you tucker
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@dorianziedonis101
11 hours ago
Sorry, but putin doesnt know russia’s history. A waste of time.
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@juliusvern2617
20 hours ago
Tucker what is with some of your strange facial expressions? What is it you are seeing.

@pauljohn1979
7 days ago
I’m praying for peace.
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@princeadonis4516
8 days ago
Tucker you deserve the peace prize that comes from the people not Nobel
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@netflixfaiza6229
8 days ago (edited)
Watching from Norway thank you for showing us the other side too
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@frostbite1163
1 day ago
36:15 Putin said stooopidd

@Omnipresence10
7 days ago (edited)
And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Phil 4:7
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@adamkisiel2099
1 day ago
Pan Putin jest moim Prezydentem kocham Pana panie Prezydydecie jak cała Pilska

@jojipoji2322
9 days ago
INCREDIBLE. NO CHANCE THIS ONLY HAS 200k+ views
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@ssgstorm6509
8 days ago
Watching from Texas. Thank you. Way different than I imagined
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@bhall1110
1 hour ago
Vladimir Carlson.
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@ayoubrafiq320
1 day ago
Je controle la caisse You Code by OCP Safi. Et le système dynamique entier financier et de sécurité.

@patrickgohi
8 days ago
Watching from Côte d’Ivoire . Thank u Carlson
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@L1K30N3
11 hours ago
i think that’s what most ppl waited for. but has it to be on such a childish manner?
putin served us with tucker this interview
and now
we play ping pong and send the balll back 2 USA/selenski, germany..all their “heads” and do such youtube interviews to get to <3?!

@stevenbouldin932
7 days ago
Holy sh** what did I just witness. Speechless.
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@Danny_Martini
8 days ago
Best wishes from Germany…and thank you
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@Kreeper-ym3rz
2 hours ago (edited)
So in the event United States falls apart and Texas, west coast seced from the union and in future Washington D.C wants its land back that will be wrong?

@HireMyTimestampTalent
6 days ago
00:01 Putin addresses the war in Ukraine and Russia’s historic claim.
02:27 The history of the Russian state and its relationship with Ukraine.
08:37 Moscow’s inclusion of old Russian lands into Moscow Kingdom in 1654
11:28 Ukraine’s historical relationship with Russia and Poland
17:32 Putin discusses the historical ties of Ukraine to Russia
19:55 Putin discusses historical borders and Hungarian claims to land in Ukraine.
24:42 Russia expected cooperation after Soviet Union’s collapse
27:11 The West fears a strong China more than a strong Russia.
31:37 Putin believes that the West rebuffed Russia after the Cold War
33:56 US support for separatism and terrorism in the Caucasus
38:42 Putin discusses development of hypersonic strike systems and NATO’s expansion to the east.
40:59 Putin questions the legitimacy of Ukraine’s government and its ties to NATO
45:26 Putin discusses the US involvement in the Ukrainian crisis
47:58 Conflict triggered by coup in Ukraine
52:43 Putin’s aim is to stop the war and prevent nazification.
55:12 Putin discusses denazification in Ukraine.
1:00:50 The persistence of Nazi ideology in Ukraine and efforts to combat it.
1:03:16 Russia faces challenges in negotiating with Western countries due to legislative ban
1:08:02 Putin firmly rejects the idea of Russian troops in Poland.
1:10:46 Negotiation with Russia is smarter than fighting in Ukraine.
1:15:28 Germany’s refusal to open gas from Russia impacts competitiveness and economy.
1:17:43 Using the dollar as a tool of foreign policy is a strategic mistake.
1:22:56 Cooperation between China and Europe is growing at a higher pace than between China and Russia
1:25:25 BRICS countries have a growing share in the world economy.
1:30:20 Putin discusses power centers in the United States
1:32:43 Need to change approach for future challenges
1:37:29 Ukraine peace talks and deception in power
1:39:44 Putin emphasizes Russia’s willingness to negotiate with Ukraine.
1:44:50 Putin emphasizes protection of homeland and people
1:47:40 The potential of the Barbarians gradually grew, leading to the collapse of the Roman Empire.
1:52:53 The exchange of spies and the definition of espionage.
1:55:13 Negotiations for release of prisoners between US and Russia
1:59:56 Putin calls for Ukraine to correct their mistaken decisions
2:02:26 NATO and US military presence in Ukraine is creating threats for Russia.
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@krishnamurthy1026
14 hours ago (edited)
Tucker:- Why did you start the war?
Putin:- In the beginning God created ……………
Tucker:-
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@ismar0535
9 hours ago
The end was epic..
SO WE DONE HERE OR IT IS SOMETHING ELSE
LOVE PUTIN FROM LATIN AMERICA
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@bradspring8332
8 days ago
All I can say about this interview is.
Thank you YouTube for allowing everyone to watch this.
Beyond this I will keep my thoughts to myself.
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@tomslitovnieks8036
16 hours ago
Navanly
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@terryb0i
8 days ago
Damn! Putin is highly intelligent. Pretty insane the comparison of Putin to Biden.
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@ThoroughYoungin
13 hours ago
23:22 his face lmao

@FikiNom
1 day ago
He is sharp. Def abovethe bumbling bees. Thank you for this rare glimpse. Nikki Haley doesn’t even know slavery happened lol. No knowledge of history but wants to think she can lead the country and outwit this man. Lol ok.

@paterpaul3878
7 days ago
He is so right about what he says about the current german goverment.
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@metallist23
16 hours ago
He has to explain historical facts,because people from usa have no idea whats going on
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@badadviceforfree
17 hours ago
Good job Tucker glad you were born
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@user-ch3so3bt4m
9 days ago
Watching from PAPUA NEW GUINEA.
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@flippnbricks2o8
1 day ago
я из россии и люблю картошку и водку
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@mercin5941
7 days ago (edited)
Time codes:
00:00:00 — Introduction
00:02:00 — History of Russia and Ukraine
00:25:04 — NATO expansion
00:30:40 — NATO and Bill Clinton
00:41:10 — Ukraine
00:48:30 — Cause of the conflict
01:02:37 — Peaceful resolution?
01:11:33 — Who blew up Nord Stream?
01:24:13 — Restoring ties with the USA
01:36:33 — How strong is Zelensky?
01:48:36 — ElonMusk and AI
01:51:07 – Evan Gershkovich arrest in Russia
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@Alexspag97
8 hours ago

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@Tamer22249
3 hours ago
is Putin Speaks English?

@tyronewhite918
7 days ago
Extremely interesting. I don’t get why some people get mad about this. Isn’t it a good thing that world leaders talk?
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@ionceavasile6763
3 hours ago
So boring

@RusskiCommieBot
8 days ago
Amazing work Tucker. Great Job.
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@artanberisa7063
3 hours ago
call back
Serbian and Bulgarian to Ukraine ther were that come from.

@sheila4650
3 hours ago
The laugh makes you look psychotic

@boneytony5041
7 days ago
Politicians not willing to negotiate are dangerous.
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@gerardfonz
5 hours ago (edited)
0:04 It seems clear that the US needs more lengthy presidential terms. So diplomacy from leadership, regardless of which party is elected, can be more established using bipartisan cooperation. Exanple: Clinton elected in 1992 gets 20 year or lifelong term but must balance his cabinet, FBI, CIA and other appointed institutions using congressional approval always controlled by a 55% limit. Meaning that all adminstrations would be much like congressional, equally minded on policies. The US then would be solid and united, stronger in positions, and more respected internationally. Russia wants that and Putin would agree. These 4 year terms with no real long term unified agenda has hurt this country.
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@Blyskawica1
2 hours ago
Navalny

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@garthodowd6846
8 days ago
Gday from North Queensland Australia! Awesome interview.
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@trajanjankuloski6290
8 days ago
Bravo Trucker!Watching from New Zealand!
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@thebeginner7606
40 minutes ago
57:29 bandera

@HelloRese
8 days ago
Outstanding interview. Thank you , Tucker !
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@thefransvan5966
8 days ago
This NEEDS subs in as many languages as possible.
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@vishalgupta7522
7 days ago
Best interview of this decade
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@romeorotaru1161
19 hours ago
And by the way….whathappend to Navalny is normal right? Buthey he is your personal hero. And Trump too i forgot, Putin’s brother
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@Foutothedjo
9 days ago
Much love from Germany!!
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@nfallysowe8684
2 hours ago
The Mother Russia

@mohahaji3534
8 days ago
Watching from kuwait thank you tucker
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@myceliummobb
6 hours ago
Tuckers fake laugh makes me uncomfortable…

@CPATuttle
8 days ago
I like the history lesson Vladimir began the interview with
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@aguilarik2075
9 hours ago
Have an another interview with him now, after killing Navalny… oh yeah I’ve forgotten, he’ll give you no answer like he did here
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@user-ro9ms4hq5y
6 days ago
All too often people ignore history and thus fail to realize why we find ourselves where we are, it is only logical, that if you did not see the road you followed, you will not realize where you are at.
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@more_than_milk_ministries
23 hours ago
@TuckerCarlson Sir, you are a very intelligent man, capable of seeking truth no matter how you feel about it. So i challenge you, to read this and if you have time on a jog or commute, just listen to this. I can show you exactly where today is prophesied, but you have to understand this first, this is Milk.
This WILL make a few things make sense.
After simply reading this, without even watching the video, scripture is going to be soo clear and easy to understand!
Now let’s look at what Jesus said from the beginning, because most people don’t love Jesus but they love lies told about him
Here’s some definitions Christians struggle with that allows them to believe a false gospel.
Gentile=a geographical boundary of a nation outside of the promised land (any place not the promised land)
Heathen/uncircumsized/unclean=the citizens and residents of these other nations outside the promised land (any people not the promised people)
The prophesy and promise= israel will be scattered into (gentiles) all other nations among the heathen (those residing in the gentiles nations) and one day a remnant will be brought out of these other nations in the sight of and from among these other people
The good news!=
Though divorced and scattered to all nations of the earth and no longer welcome to even pray to YHWH, through grace he came in the flesh to release the house of Israel from the covenant and since judahs husband died she was also released and now both are welcome to return with all their heart and all their soul and all their mind, and for the ones who not walk perfectly but repent and get back up and try will be gathered out of all nations and given a new heart incapable of sin and will be a nation of priests to the other nations, who will come up to worship the king and give sacrifices. Isaiah 56.
If anyone give any other gospel,
RUN AWAY!

@mxrijx
7 days ago
Love from Serbians
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@valentin-morosov2164
8 days ago (edited)
Thanks a lot Mr Tucker Carlson, greetings from France!
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@johnnyo5808
8 days ago
I’m glad this didn’t get taken down.
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@Sakostudio
1 day ago
He could ask this intelligent man why Russian army helping Azerbaijan in a war with Armenia. Russians are alas with Armenians.Thats because Armenians don’t have oil(money) to pay him?Or that’s because he is Tatar (Mongol) and he loves Turks and Azeris.

@FORZAAutoblog
21 hours ago
We Love U mr Putin.
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@fabriziosimone8177
8 days ago
Watching from Canada ,im shocked Justin allowed this to be shown
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@messengertelling
16 hours ago
Messages to Vladimir Putin and Denys Shmyhal: Indeed, the one who initiated the war was Ukraine, not Russia, due to a slight misunderstanding. Because of their excessive arrogance, the two leaders did not relent. However, there is no point in continuing the war because neither Ukraine nor Russia are terrorist countries. Why fight each other? Your country is very unique, yet you prefer to go to war instead of solving problems together to combat terrorists.
Is it because the strength of arms makes you proud to fight? There is no point in waging war merely for the sake of pride with sophisticated war weaponry because all of it can be destroyed in an instant by a great flood. If both countries were to be hit by a major flood, submerging the area beyond waist level, are you ready to bear the risk?
There is no point in prolonging the war because both countries are not havens for terrorists but rather fellow human beings who are not terrorists. Cease fighting, pursue the best path to peace because if you persist in fighting, and all the people perish, what use is what remains with only one leader left? It’s akin to a street beggar. Ponder upon this. Both countries are not evil, but rather influenced by arrogance due to the deadly weapons of war.. Yes, of course, was influenced by the arrogance , also pressure from other countries.

@oldgaffer9212
8 days ago
Many have blood on their hands including Borris Johnson
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@user-rp1sm3re3i
1 hour ago
Putin

@YVO007
4 hours ago
Cool and you can afford to speak respectable telling your story. Thank you do more, OK? Remember the Ukraine who suffer under russian hostilities effecting culturicide. Even such as I always bring it up practice compassion for Ukrainian families being heinously displaced as we live and breath putin murders rapes and pillages. You are such a good speaker and confidently make you ideas clear and easy to listen to. This is why I am asking you to help maintain Ukraine’s desperate needs vs the on-mass nominalizations russian propagandists are now pushing planet wide. Thank you for considering this each broadcast making even a brief statement unconditionally humane. 02/17/2024 YVO

@user-sc9wr7ov2y
8 days ago
Спасибо за интервью ,смотрела в Минске Беларусь
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@VladislavRussian
9 hours ago
This video is not trending on YouTube, are you serious?! Is this the “freedom of speech” that Western “politicians” love to talk about? PS: I’m laughing in your face
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@ernstgr77
1 day ago
from where i come we know putin has several sosies, so all of this “tucker carlson” i have no idea who is the guy is clearly oriented pro russian, presenting how “putin” is friendly etc, and then they will ask “how did russia infere in trump election” lol

@thollyssacredbluesband6798
9 days ago
Watching from Reykjavík, Iceland !!!
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@Winterhurricanes
8 minutes ago (edited)
Not only Putin doesn’t know history. Great majority of trolls don’t know it either. Shame. There are so many books…!
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@user-wb7bz2wz7f
1 day ago
«Западные СМИ сейчас оплакивают смерть Алексея Навального, американского агента и лидера нацистских групп, которые теперь запрещены в России. Кто-нибудь помнит какое-нибудь СМИ, сообщающее о смерти гражданина США Гонсало Лиры, который умер в украинской тюрьме после пыток и отказа в медицинской помощи?
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@enzoookid9975
8 days ago
-Кто взорвал северный поток ?
-Вы!
-Я в тот день был занят

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@sinisa92
15 hours ago
Kosovo is Serbia
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@Severeign-sf5uq
6 days ago
I applaud the man who translated this. I thought there would be some droppings and missing in Putin’s words.
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@cod64913
1 day ago
history is the other way around where did Russia come from ? Russia did not even exist back in the times he saying and it was kievian Russ and novgarod Russia has nothing to do with any of it. Putin said it himself “ when we came to Kyiv “ so it already existed ? Kyiv had churches , orthodox religion was adapted in the country and looking over at Russia there was nothing but frogs and some forests. And at the end of the day what is Russia now ? Moscow….. Russia is a federation , if all the countries split that live under the Russian federation split there would be nothing left but Moscow. #gloryukriane
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@daviddoyle4055
6 days ago
We all need to work together to make a better world
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@igoradamovich505
23 hours ago
Learn how to build global positive relations you embarass me with the way youre representing america

@user-te6xy7sf6o
3 hours ago
I know history also, Cuba was a wonderful country than came Russia communism and it was turned into sh-it .
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@dodgeit3014
9 days ago
This is crazy. Can’t believe we are seeing this.
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@glareff
8 days ago
Surprised google still hasnt censored this
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@pascalmbanabikedi3080
8 days ago
Watching from Togo, West Africa…great JOB
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@Killadey
1 day ago
So the MSN criticise you for interviewing Putin, but now they are happy to put out content covering it. Hypocrites!
Also, It was hard to find this video. I did a search and all it showed was this interview covered by the same lot that criticised you, the cheek. I had to go into your channel to access this video. So they are trying to block you out, and get the hits for themselves.

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@hauntsforhope
6 days ago
Thank you youtube for not supressing this historic interview.
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@igoradamovich505
23 hours ago
Carlson you know what i hate about you is the fact that you are un educated yet you put yourself in a position that you cant bite on

@MrCoffis
27 minutes ago (edited)
Old grumpy grandpa is stuck in the past, while ruining everyone’s future.
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@user-hs4tq7hv1z
9 days ago
Respect from Canada
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@presidentceresidence5663
10 hours ago
It did happen in the USA…jfk assassination…that was the biggest coup ever

@danielzahariev8949
2 hours ago (edited)
Usa has been acting for the last 30 years (after Ussr ended) as a mad/wreckless/humiliating others pocker player….and that is both very dangerous and very pathetic….either Usa reforms quickly n becomes more positive n responsible or it is bound to fall and fall badly it shall….acting like the evil drunk in power pocker player…
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@patriciaruberg3888
7 days ago
I didn’t learn too much more but I hope this opens the eyes of my fellow Americans
Anytime I’ve attempted to have conversations about these things I get met with rage and called a liar
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@rockib8319
14 hours ago
YouTube trying its best to stop the spread of this vid….
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@armorhide406
1 hour ago
what a clown

@ericklino7945
8 days ago
Watching from Nairobi, Kenya
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@Kathoi
1 minute ago
This is so fucked.

@Samandar509
8 days ago
Have been watching from Uzbekistan
Thank you bro
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@DixieSchizo
6 hours ago
Tucker looks really scary in this. He is obviously handsome but imagining him staring at me from this off angle it disturbing. He look like a wax figure and it’s uncanny valley

@thememepitstop6974
1 day ago
Putin is a very very smart man
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@autdelux
8 days ago (edited)
its kinda strange to listen to a president that can formulate a coherent sentence ^^
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@user-js5sx8ji3k
4 hours ago
Зеленский 100% не пойдет на интерьвью с Такером Карсоном
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@chris1806
7 hours ago
This world needs Jesus Christ!

@MrBilbobaggins77
8 days ago
Watching from north korea , thank tiu tuker for this honest interview and even honester intervewee
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@damo728
12 hours ago
Let’s be clear here. The Russia Ukraine conflict has nothing to do with Russian culture/speakers in Ukraine. The same can be said of the China Taiwan conflict. By that logic, perhaps the UK should retake the United States and Canada. It’s about influence. A Ukraine that has western influence will disrupt the trade of energy throughout Europe. Without such trade, Putin understands the Russian government will continue to wither away. So Russia’s goal is to change an economic problem into a social problem and play the victim. Politics at its best. Please stop discussing the social aspects of the conflict as they are irrelevant. At the end of the day, what system will create greater good and prosperity, that of capitalism or socialism?

@Winda25
6 days ago (edited)
At 18:25 and at 42:16 there are translation mistakes. Putin says “The Soviet Ukraine was given a great deal of territory that had never belonged to it” (meaning was given by Soviet Union as it’s Republic), but the translator translates “The Soviet Union was given…” which is a mistake by sense.
Second time translator confused presidents Victor Yuschenko (2005) with Victor Yanukovich (2010)
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@AluminumAdjuvantBlackPill
22 hours ago
YT trying to suppress this interview but failing
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@tiboromercic8096
1 day ago
I dont get the point. Its historical, and Kyiv citizens pushed back the Bolsheviks AND Putin. I clearly think they want independence and these are the ravings of an old man too into his history.
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@noah_jus_livin
7 days ago
Putin to US : don’t you have anything better to do
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@andrews2243
1 day ago
This interview is now shadow ban on you tube. That’s wrong and you tube should be ashamed of themselves
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@TheDillionGames
5 hours ago

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@ru.god_ove.r1hv
9 days ago
Это когда сидишь в душной комнате и кто-то окно открыл. Такеру и Илону – уважение.
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@Lord_mongool
9 days ago
Считаю,что это видео — повод множеству людей из разных стран обменяться тёплыми и добрыми словами
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@user-co5wm3cc4o
18 hours ago
We love Russia
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@user-bp4nx7im2m
4 hours ago
i love how putin just shit all over tucker lmfao

@jointosrs8480
9 days ago
Where is Tiffany dover? Where is Gonzalo Lira? Rest in peace.. If you know you know
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@thebeginner7606
26 minutes ago
1:10:28

@alextarnauceanu807
2 hours ago
LoL fffddddfddddd ya and orcmaster

@goodnoodles_
7 days ago
Why is there over 100m views
on X but only 12 million views
on youtube?
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@igoradamovich505
23 hours ago
Carlson is a tiny little baby and putin is his big daddy

@scope81
8 days ago
45,000 comments but only 670,000 views
? Yeah right lol. Views were definitely removed
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@Gvprtskvni
6 hours ago
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@miketizo6594
5 hours ago
This is one interview the American government and the rest of European governments don’t want people to hear.
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@ruhaimahamed3705
7 days ago
Would be great with english subtitles. Because we need to hear his voice which transfers much of emotional transmission
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@celticgal7460
8 days ago
From Scotland GD Bless
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@telmaryss
1 hour ago
Carlson you are terrible person! Shame on you!

@user-cs1cm5ph3b
4 hours ago
3HLNpGGpeXZ8F5Rb9sjjxbbcsobNMh2FBh хоть сколько подкинте биткоина

@KingdomSilverStar
7 days ago (edited)
Anyone see 90 million views
have become 9 million views
12 hours later?
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@zombie_gaming603
1 day ago
im sorry, id you say christianity says ti stay peacefull and not kill??
ever heard of crusades???
please learn some common sence, thank you.

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@Jose_santana47
8 days ago
Watching from Mexico viva la press
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@user-ee3ml6hs2x
2 hours ago
Думаю что если ют перестанет удалять неугодные коментарии,картинаьна сайте резко поменяется.
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@user-pq4mx8xr8x
8 days ago
Watching from Kongo
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@marcelo.s7423
8 days ago
This video reached the record for the most viewed video in the world in the first 24 hours. 152 million views
in 23 hours on Twitter.
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@Hoshiko_Shizuku_Kun_1122
8 hours ago (edited)
Russia: Taking over Ukraine cuz it was theirs in 840 AD: Gets hated by the world
Israel: Taking their land back from over 3,300 years ago: Gets cheered.
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@SimSim-uc1vm
1 hour ago
Mother Russia i love you:) Putin forever:)
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@viceroy3297
7 days ago
In just one day this gets 10,000,000 views
and 200,000 comments yet when I type “Tucker Carlson Interviews Vladimir Putin” this isn’t the first result. Not to mention it is nowhere to be seen in trending. Some real comedians working at YouTube hahaha.
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@icomplain2006
1 day ago
Must be a real honor to interview a cold blooded murderer
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@idntjerkoffinbars
7 days ago
With this many views
how is this not trending at number one? Shame on the Tube…
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@nuurdiinlakiismaciil1110
5 hours ago

@fuzzyfeetoffury
1 hour ago
“Christianity is a non violent religion” and “Christianity

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@TheMaxibit8
9 days ago
Правду не скрыть!!
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@SLTTPOH
7 days ago
I appluad tucker, but to not understand why the history is important when trying to understand who is right and wrong in a conflict is crazy. If you take the micro of it and apply it to two people having an argument and a 3rd person watching. The 3rd person would need to know how it all started and not just look at whne they saw the argument begin, but ehat happened before. History is very inpoetant especially with other wars going on, history sheds a light on the truth. Hopefully more people are willing to dig deep for the truth. In the end we might everyone has been wrong at some point and we arr more grey than black and white
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@sayedalihossaini5119
6 hours ago (edited)
way Tucker came to Russian, he did 2 hours interview with Puten maybe i s i sends him to do this interview with Puten what is the ISI his plans

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@cristirosu2816
9 hours ago (edited)
Arrested for bringing flowers, tears and a photo in memoriam… How noble of the greatest leader of our times, the magnificent tsar… I know… its because of the americans, the americans…
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@kipling1957
9 days ago
I’m amazed this wasn’t blocked in Canada.
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@paga8392
15 hours ago
you can tell me what you want but after this interview im convinced that this man is not the „bad guy“
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@KrisNestor108
7 days ago
Wait, it had 30 million views
as I remember? Why is it only 10 now?
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@davidbrown4271
19 hours ago
Ask the people in Ukraine what they think of him
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@parkerhughes434
31 seconds ago
Is this the same guy who aligns with countries like Iran, Eritrea, and North Korea?
This is an interesting interview for sure, even though it’s basically sponsored by the Kremlin itself, but any American who finds themselves agreeing with Putin needs to check themselves.

@Emma3447
8 days ago
Watching from France. Привет из Франции.
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@letoahleto
15 hours ago
Города России/cities of Russia

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@bot-fx1gf
8 days ago
Thank you from Poland
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@bahorized
1 day ago
poop

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@user-ov4jv1hy3s
8 days ago
Из казахстана..такер спасибо за это интервью
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@HfzfzizyiDrxtfzde
14 hours ago
Fake YouTube views
count at x it above 200 million
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@ryosan5631
7 days ago
Watching from tokyo JAPAN
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@josefontanez3871
2 hours ago

@guramigogichaishvili3903
7 days ago
Crazy to me that one of the most significant political interviews is dropped and people are discussing translator instead of the contents of the interview
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@johnvillasana64
6 hours ago
Carlson got played.
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@De11eleven
9 days ago
Это интервью войдет в историю
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@cindyzbinden7683
1 day ago
There ARE US troops on the ground in Ukraine.
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@joaquinbear3613
7 days ago
Based on engagement this should be the #1 video trending on YouTube right now. What gives?
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@georgewright6692
14 hours ago
Tucker sucking up to his boss.
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@Laurabozovic
23 hours ago
Putin for president 2024
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@user-qt2sc8dc6n
8 days ago
Watching from Montenegro. The time has come.
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@blockmanhatecommentguy6280
4 hours ago (edited)
“so why did you invade ukraine”
putin: “on 11:59 December 31st 1999 John Arnold the 2nd went to the bathroom creating the first trans millennial shit since the year 1bc where …”
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@paineite
8 days ago
1:04:55. “Ask him yourself. It is easier for your; you are an American citizen.” yeah Tucker, talk to Biden. I”m SURE he’ll give you a two hour interview !!
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@JokerxDragon
1 day ago (edited)
Traitor Carlson.
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@sumyungchung
4 hours ago
Ramblin man
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@robbarber7253
8 days ago
PEACE FROM CANADA
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@DarkTimes365
2 hours ago
I think Putin is right. The United States will be on the wrong side of history with this one.
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@Summer_Sausage
8 days ago
Having conversations is the key to peace.
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@vonguyen8232
22 minutes ago
Love russia

@danieljavierangulo2973
6 days ago
Such an interesting conversation. I think the world needed this interview. Thank you very much. with YPK22X arriving the best is yet to come, you should know that!
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@MrLynchyX
1 day ago
Вам надо было не этого плешивого расспрашивать,а людей на улице.Тогда бы вы узнали,что представляет из себя Россия.Два часа лапшу вешал вам на уши.
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@user-lq5vs9gv8x
18 hours ago
I live in Moscow, alone in an apartment. I pay $2-4 per month for electricity, $1.5 for cold water, $2-5 for hot water. That’s how bad we are here
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@A447NN
8 days ago
Мир всему миру давайте жить дружно!!!
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@leos3003
17 hours ago
Get him to go back and get an interview about killing Navalny.
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@knightpertinax7049
15 hours ago
Yesterday I saw this video at 140 million views
, and I also saw online that the video reached over 150 million views
within 24 hours.
Youtube is really tryna suppress this
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@salto_pro
7 days ago
Twitter 176,5 millions views

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@alienbox440
1 day ago
New trailer Deadpool has more views
!

@Novvax312
5 days ago
1:11:55 you may have an alibi but the CIA doesnt was fucking hilarious
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@Digigraphie
17 hours ago
who was killed in Russia under Putin:
Galina Starovoitova
Artem Borovik
Victor Popkov
Sergey Yushenkov
Yuri Shchekochikhin
Nikolai Girenko
Zelimkhan Yandarbiev
Aslan Maskhadov
Anna Politkovskaya
Alexander Litvinenko
Magomed Yevloev
Yuriy Chervochkin
Larisa Yudina
Ivan Safronov
Ilya Borodaenko
Igor Domnikov
Stanislav Markelov
Anastasia Baburova
Vyacheslav Yaroshenko
Natalya Estemirova
Maksharip Aushev
Anton Stradymov
Andrei Kulagin
Zarema Saidullaeva
Alik Jabrailov
Ilya Japaridze
Ivan Khutorskoy
Sergey Magnitsky
Olga Kotovskaya
Farid Babaev
Rim Shaygalimov
Telman Alishaev
Akhmed Moskov
Sergey Ivanov
Magomed-Zagid Varisov
Valery Ivanov
Vagif Kochetkov
Pavel Makeev
Maksim Maksimov
Eduard Markevich
Alexey Sidorov
Natalya Skril
Leonid Shevchenko
Vitaly Sahn-Wald
Sergey Kalinovsky
Valery Batuev
Elina Voronova
Leonid Grigoriev
Oleg Goryansky
Sergey Loginov
Iskander Khatloni
Supyan Ependiev
Ramzan Mezhidov
Alexander Babaykin
Sergey Novikov
Olga Alexandrina
Vera Sidelnikova
Olesya Ivanova
Vasyl Aleksanyan
Vratislav Gavranek
Ludek Petrszyk
Boris Nemtsov
Denis Voronenkov
Mykola Andryushchenko
Orhan Cemal
Alexander Rastorguev
Kirill Radchenko
Peter Ofitserov
Don Sturgess
Alexei Navalny
Lev Rokhlin
Anatoly Sobchak
Svyatoslav Fedorov
Amir ibn al-Khattab
Alexander Lebed
Salman Raduev
Lechi Islamov
Khizri Aldanov
Roman Tsepov
Mykola Aksenenko
Gennady Troshev
Alexander Perepelichyny
Yuri Shutov
Nikita Kamaev
Vyacheslav Sinev
Zelimkhan Khangoshvili
Yevgeny Prigogine
Dmitry Utkin
p.s. S. Tretyakov recalled how Alexander Lunkin, deputy head of the FSO, told him that Zolotov and Murov had prepared a list of people whom they were going to eliminate in order to clear Putin’s rise to power. When they finished the preparation list, Zolotov remarked: “It turns out to be too much killing – even for us.”
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@user-js5sx8ji3k
9 days ago
Люди соскучились по правде
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@profmedgroup
14 hours ago
List of US invasions in the last 100 years around the world:
1914-1918 – series of invasions of Mexico.
1914-1934 – Haiti. After numerous uprisings, America sends in its troops, the occupation continues for 19 years.
1916-1924 – 8-year occupation of the Dominican Republic.
1917-1933 – military occupation of Cuba, economic protectorate.
1917-1918 – participation in the 1st World War.
1918-1922 – intervention in Russia. A total of 14 states took part in it.
Active support was provided to the territories that separated from Russia – Kolchakia and the Far Eastern Republic.
1918-1920 – Panama. After the elections, troops are brought in to quell the unrest.
1919 – COSTA RICA. … Landing of US troops to “protect American interests.”
1919 – American troops fight on the side of Italy against the Serbs in Dolmatia.
1919 – American troops enter Honduras during elections.
1920 – Guatemala. 2-week intervention.
1921 – American support for the militants who fought to overthrow Guatemalan President Carlos Herrera for the benefit of the United Fruit Company.
1922 – intervention in Turkey.
1922-1927 – American troops in China during the popular uprising.
1924-1925 – Honduras. Troops invade the country during elections.
1925 – Panama. American troops break up a general strike.
1926 – Nicaragua. Invasion.
1927-1934 – all over China American troops stationed.
1932 – invasion of El Salvador from the sea. There was an uprising there at that time.
1937 – Nicaragua. With the help of American troops, the dictator Somoza comes to power, displacing the legitimate government of J. Sacasa.
1939 – deployment of troops to China.
1947-1949 – Greece. American troops participate in the civil war, supporting the Nazis.
1948-1953 – military operations in the Philippines.
1950 – An uprising in Puerto Rico is suppressed by American troops.
1950-1953 – armed intervention in Korea by about a million American soldiers.
1958 – Lebanon. Occupation of the country, fight against the rebels.
1958 – confrontation with Panama.
1959 – America sends troops into Laos, the first clashes of American troops in Vietnam begin.
1959 – Haiti. Suppression of a popular uprising against the pro-American government.
1960 – After Jose Maria Velasco was elected president of Ecuador and refused to comply with US demands to break off relations with Cuba, the Americans carried out several military operations and organized a coup.
1960 – American troops enter Guatemala to prevent the removal of a US puppet from power.
1965-1973 – military aggression against Vietnam.
1966 – Guatemala. …US troops entered the country, and massacres of Indians, who were considered potential rebels, were carried out.
1966 – military assistance to the pro-American governments of Indonesia and the Philippines. … (60,000 people were arrested for political reasons; the government officially employed 88 torture specialists).
1971-1973 – bombing of Laos.
1972 – Nicaragua. American troops are brought in to support a government beneficial to Washington.
1983 – military intervention in Grenada with about 2 thousand marines.
1986 – attack on Libya. Bombing of Tripoli and Benghazi.
1988 – American invasion of Honduras
1988 – The USS Vincennes, stationed in the Persian Gulf, shot down an Iranian plane with 290 passengers on board, including 57 children, with a missile.
1989 – American troops suppress unrest in the Virgin Islands.
1991 – large-scale military action against Iraq
1992-1994 – occupation of Somalia. Armed violence against civilians, killings of civilians.
1998 – Sudan. The Americans destroy a pharmaceutical plant with a missile attack, claiming that it produces nerve gas.
1999 – Ignoring international law, bypassing the UN and the Security Council, NATO forces launched a 78-day campaign of aerial bombing of the sovereign state of Yugoslavia by the United States.
2001 – invasion of Afghanistan.
2003 – bombing of Iraq.
2011 – Libya.
2013 – mercenaries on the territory of Ukraine
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@user-qc5cs9jc2k
7 days ago
I went to look again, and saw that my like had changed to dislike. What does YouTube mean?
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@ramongalindo9970
1 day ago
у меня есть документы всех стран и альшивых и коррумпированных заговорщиков иравительств , законов, США Евросоюеа,Англии Мексики ялонии Германии Аравии и всех тех кто хочет расчленить Россию и СССР

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@Mr.Redacto
7 days ago
I like to see Tucker talk with Xi Jinping next. Do you agree?
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@lanesmith148
42 seconds ago
Instead of trying to fight, learn to work together.

@AmbassadorOfLogic
2 hours ago
clowns

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@FotografNikita
7 days ago
You have to translate it in all languages (German, France, Spain…) and also upload it.
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@macnico9987
8 days ago
Upon searching YouTube: “Tucker Carlson Vladimir Putin”; This interview is the 30th video listed.
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@IdeaDima
1 day ago
Why watch this??? Two liars talk about lies!
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@user-uz4qn6nt7b
14 hours ago
Alexey Navalny . A life cut short because of maniac Putin. Alexey, forever in the hearts of free people
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@AlexandreGordien
7 days ago
Il y a de très bonnes personnes aux États-Unis et en Russie qui ne veulent pas que ce type de conflits dégénère en conflit mondial ou nucléaire, mais il y en a partout ailleurs dans le monde qui souhaitent le contraire et travaillent pour que cela arrive quand même. Le danger pour tout le monde, ce n’est pas un Pays en particulier, mais justement ces gens là, ils n’ont ni patrie, ni valeurs humaines et sont les ennemis de l’humanité, du bien et de Dieu. Que Dieu continue de bénir cette planète…
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@mohamedgoldstein5565
4 hours ago
Hi Tucker, Did Navalny choke on some caviar or fall down a flight of stairs?

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@vijeybarethvijayan4128
6 days ago (edited)
Nice, but I don’t understand how the establishment allowed the interview upload on Youtube ?. On Youtube views
12M but on X cross 185M
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@iscotwori6905
7 hours ago
A few days after such a big interview Navalny dies how does it feel to be used Tucker
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@mdach619
9 hours ago
2 hours of Putin laughing at tucks
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@masaacc-cr9uo
22 hours ago
Wonder what it feels to talk with warcriminal like that ?
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@hdsd9003
16 hours ago
[*]Алексей Анатольевич Навальный[*]

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@samuelcurtis4805
16 hours ago
such a weak interview. Carlson bottled asking big questions and sat there and got lectured on Russian history. Carlson got owned here. Terrible journalism
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@madeinart13
10 hours ago

@theartman16
22 hours ago
This is basically how the interview went:
Tucker Carlson: What does this have to do with the 2022 invasion of Ukraine?
Vladimir Putin: So anyway, “procides to go 30 min strait about Russian History”…
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@stephen-gi9uz
1 day ago
This didn’t age well

@Crakinator
13 hours ago
Crazy how YouTube is trying to hide this
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@Asheau
12 hours ago
What an absolute wimp.
Having to endure someone coming on his face with humiliation after humiliation, all with a look of servility in his eyes
And to a man who wears bigger heels than Desantis

@tomlambert4369
4 hours ago
no offense Tucker,Y R U confused?

@simonforfan
10 hours ago
Please let this be deep faked

@nahitspopcoin74
4 hours ago
putin is so real for that. bro was speaking fax ongod cuh no cap
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@d.owczarzak6888
1 day ago
2/16/24 I see another one of Putin’s political opponents died in prison. What do you think of that Tucker ????????????
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@dziolanaantuzyte877
14 hours ago
Even after the interview. Americans still manage to twist all around with their lies …
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@solarischronos784
10 hours ago (edited)
Putin is actually a well-educated, well spoken man, I could see why he is so popular amongst the Russian population. and Tucker suddenly became so defensive and loud when Putin said that NATO the western bloc blatantly said NO to Russia’ attempt to join NATO.
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@mel7445
1 day ago
Meanwhile Alexei Navalny is being poisoned I’m glad you have the privilege to cozy up to the Kremlin without having to look behind your back when you return home.

@neomanrex
7 hours ago
Why does Tucker Carlson hate free speech?

@Maximka45
14 hours ago
My favorite president! The best president in the world!
Glory to Putin, glory to one of the smartest and greatest politicians!
Слава России!
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@victoriasavage6515
12 hours ago
Putin’s narrative of Ukraine’s historical ties to Russia serves as a pretext for his aggressive actions and human rights violations in the region. Contrary to his claims, Rus was never part of Russia. Moscow’s origins, founded by Yuri Dolgorukiy, who hailed from Kievan Rus’, lacked inherited titles or lands, and its development involved collaboration with diverse ethnic groups. Following the Mongol invasion in the 13th century, Ukraine emerged as a vibrant cultural and political center, dominated by the Cossacks for centuries. However, Ekaterina II’s deceitful tactics led to Ukraine’s occupation by Russia in 1783.
Since then, Russia has systematically oppressed Ukrainians, suppressing their language, and infringing upon their freedoms. The differences between Russia and Ukraine are profound and historical. Ukraine has its own distinct culture, language, and traditions, shaped by centuries of independence and resistance to foreign domination. In contrast, Russia has a long history of centralization and authoritarian rule. Putin’s distortion of history only serves to justify his brutal tactics in Ukraine and perpetuate the subjugation of its people.

@victoriasavage6515
12 hours ago
Putin’s narrative of Ukraine’s historical ties to Russia serves as a pretext for his aggressive actions and human rights violations in the region. Contrary to his claims, Rus was never part of Russia. Moscow’s origins, founded by Yuri Dolgorukiy, who hailed from Kievan Rus’, lacked inherited titles or lands, and its development involved collaboration with diverse ethnic groups. Following the Mongol invasion in the 13th century, Ukraine emerged as a vibrant cultural and political center, dominated by the Cossacks for centuries. However, Ekaterina II’s deceitful tactics led to Ukraine’s occupation by Russia in 1783.
Since then, Russia has systematically oppressed Ukrainians, suppressing their language, and infringing upon their freedoms. The differences between Russia and Ukraine are profound and historical. Ukraine has its own distinct culture, language, and traditions, shaped by centuries of independence and resistance to foreign domination. In contrast, Russia has a long history of centralization and authoritarian rule. Putin’s distortion of history only serves to justify his brutal tactics in Ukraine and perpetuate the subjugation of its people.

@irminakoza5185
4 hours ago (edited)
Hmmmm well, the translator received some excellent feedback, and I’ll add to that feedback, as for the interview… Putin surely loved giving his own run down of history, those of us that are from those parts of the world know full well how “history” is more of an idea rather than facts … I truly feel embarrassed for Tucker, he was blatantly used by Putin, Tucker is a great speaker but this was way beyond his capabilities as an interviewer

@truthbot8907
14 hours ago
NAVALNY!!
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@shaung8182
8 hours ago
Listening to this it just sounds like he looking after Russians in Ukraine and need the all years round ice free base to the sea?. He dont look like a crazy man to me? Our leaders need to go back to diplomacy Not WAR. And Russia dont come any further than they have!

@KIDLEVIOFFICIAL
17 hours ago
An eloquent psychopath is still a psychopath. It’s very clear that many people in the comments have heard him speak for the first time. His version of history is, as Tucker said in the beginning, his version and it does not mean that it is right. We have heard him say the same things in countless press conferences and interviews before, this is nothing new. I’d invite everyone to do their own research and come to their own conclusions.
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@RosyPinky100
14 hours ago
It is frightening how disrespectfully Putin in interviews does not answer the questions clearly and only talks arround the bush. The interviewer does not handle the situation well.
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@victoriasavage6515
12 hours ago
Putin’s narrative of Ukraine’s historical ties to Russia serves as a pretext for his aggressive actions and human rights violations in the region. Contrary to his claims, Rus was never part of Russia. Moscow’s origins, founded by Yuri Dolgorukiy, who hailed from Kievan Rus’, lacked inherited titles or lands, and its development involved collaboration with diverse ethnic groups. Following the Mongol invasion in the 13th century, Ukraine emerged as a vibrant cultural and political center, dominated by the Cossacks for centuries. However, Ekaterina II’s deceitful tactics led to Ukraine’s occupation by Russia in 1783.
Since then, Russia has systematically oppressed Ukrainians, suppressing their language, and infringing upon their freedoms. The differences between Russia and Ukraine are profound and historical. Ukraine has its own distinct culture, language, and traditions, shaped by centuries of independence and resistance to foreign domination. In contrast, Russia has a long history of centralization and authoritarian rule. Putin’s distortion of history only serves to justify his brutal tactics in Ukraine and perpetuate the subjugation of its people.

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@theetrue4083
9 hours ago
–a whitewash of an autocrat;
trust and serve god to life eternal.

@sofjasmirnova7666
12 hours ago
This interview will be Putin’s version of Boris Yeltsin getting drunk and banging spoons over Askar Akayev’s head. In a word… embarrassing.

@andersonsantucci9325
5 hours ago
Mr Carlson needs interview another crazies “leaders”like Belarus president, Turkmenistan president etc,the world have a lot of questions to make to this people haha
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@laetitiazichy-vanlidth5882
8 hours ago
Stupid cupid

@friedrichhoffmann4248
23 hours ago
The whole world is laughing at this “interview”. Thanks for the entertainment!
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@d4rd1v79
5 hours ago
Only 17m, what a poor interview.
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@user-uz4qn6nt7b
21 hours ago
Navalny
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@salvadorseekatzrisquez2947
1 day ago
Hi Tucker! Definitively a good job in your career and I wish you the best as to any other people. However, I found the first 90 to 100 minutes completely boring and Putin just got his way and put forward his vision full of lies.
I feel at the end you made up for it
I really like when you mentioned about the journalist or spy whatever, I think that was a good intention.
I also liked the question about the supernatural at work, which he denied.
I find interesting that a totalitarian (probably dictator is more accurate) calls himself a Christian in any way. so points for that one too.
I am sure to actually have a conversation with that guy must have been very difficult
I think he is a brutal killer and terrible person, probably 60% as bad a Stalin, Castro, or Lenin.
It would have been impossible for me to keep my calm. also you know you could have had a situation like The Univision anchor Jorge Ramos and his five-person crew have been deported from Venezuela after they were detained in the presidential palace in Caracas during an interview with the embattled president, Nicolás Maduro. Feb 25, 2019
so that was a very much likely outcome had you had a little more backbone.
Maduro is more of a child than Putin and has real power so little dogs are more fierce than a bear. But anyhow, their methods are similar.
Best Wishes, I am giving you a like on the video! I think you did very well. Not easy to do anything good with Putin.
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@igoradamovich505
23 hours ago
Youre too young too not educated

@sinankurt7109
6 hours ago
both of them, their skin, look “older” on old photos. what the heck happened to their faces? botox? extreme make-up? surgery? …
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@MarieSinco
16 hours ago
Wow,Tucker was completely unprepared for this interview and let Putin dictate the narrative. Why would anyone trust Carlson’s perspective after this point? How many times do I need to look at his confused face to know he’s a media artist and not capable of true dialogue. I’d like to see Putin interview with Breaking Points. That would be an excellent dialogue. Won’t happen, because he can find a voice through idiots like Tucker.
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@nsmnsm8889
9 hours ago
Mr Tucker had No Time to Listen to the news , specially to what USA President Biden Said about North Steam Pipe line. You are very funny and stupid with your tuff look questions.

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@JohnSmith-tm6fe
1 day ago
I gave up after 30 minutes. Putin can write a book on the topic “how to talk a lot without saying anything”. If you’re considering watching this, this is a summary of the first 30 minutes: Tucker asks a question, Putin starts to talk about the history of Russia and the Ukraine from the beginning of time, Tucker asks another question, Putin ignores that and goes on describing his interpretation of events in the history of Russia and Ukraine, Tucker tries again to change the subject and tells Putin that he understands that Putin wants to show that the Ukraine is a part of Russia and asks Putin why he invaded Ukraine only now and not 20 years ago, Putin ignores his question and goes on describing the history of Russia and Ukraine (according to his point of view), Tucker asks the same question again, and Putin ignores this question again, and goes on explaining why Ukraine is a part of Russia. I’ve just wasted 30 minutes of my life.
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@AkademiKorolev
8 hours ago (edited)
Glory to Navalny! Shame on you, Putin’s henchman
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@freedom1980s
12 hours ago
Let’s not forget, Ukraine is run by a comedian/ wannabe actor.
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@doorsmundo9063
5 hours ago
Desperation.

@annaskalka2320
8 hours ago (edited)
As a Polish person I must say that my blood was boiling during Putin’s version of history lesson. Then he goes on to say that he is not interested in invading Poland. It is obvious that Putin is making fun of Tucker. On the other hand, as much as I dislike Tucker you can’t piss off Putin too much in his own country if you want to live.
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@edsko5152
14 hours ago
Tucker, how are you feeling after Alexey Navalny was murdered by Putin in prison? Do you still think that question is inappropriate for a dictator?
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@user-gg5mk6mx8g
10 hours ago
Shame on you Tucker!
Traktor!
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@ozangoral9275
8 hours ago (edited)
If Vladi likes history, Someone should remind him, that largest country of the world is actually very mediocre country originally as they are just a country of eastern europe and sits on the huge Turkic lands on the asian side, probably over %70 of Russian lands today is actually turkic lands. They must be making plans to return that %70 back too with this analogy.
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@glenngeerinck771
4 hours ago
tucker carlson ony cares what people think of him
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@alonzoguerra1534
12 hours ago
What a Borring interview… Putin had nothing to say but history and anwsers like I DONT KNOW I DONT KNOW .. his words are like a man saying his religion are the true..

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@victoriasavage6515
12 hours ago
Putin’s narrative of Ukraine’s historical ties to Russia serves as a pretext for his aggressive actions and human rights violations in the region. Contrary to his claims, Rus was never part of Russia. Moscow’s origins, founded by Yuri Dolgorukiy, who hailed from Kievan Rus’, lacked inherited titles or lands, and its development involved collaboration with diverse ethnic groups. Following the Mongol invasion in the 13th century, Ukraine emerged as a vibrant cultural and political center, dominated by the Cossacks for centuries. However, Ekaterina II’s deceitful tactics led to Ukraine’s occupation by Russia in 1783.
Since then, Russia has systematically oppressed Ukrainians, suppressing their language, and infringing upon their freedoms. The differences between Russia and Ukraine are profound and historical. Ukraine has its own distinct culture, language, and traditions, shaped by centuries of independence and resistance to foreign domination. In contrast, Russia has a long history of centralization and authoritarian rule. Putin’s distortion of history only serves to justify his brutal tactics in Ukraine and perpetuate the subjugation of its people.
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@paullehenaff3059
5 hours ago
He always has that look on his face, like he’s listening, but not really following whats going on
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@luizhenriquesuppi298
11 hours ago
Terrible interview. Putin didn’t say anything.
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@A2theK734
5 hours ago
TRAITOR

@AtomicShadow64
1 day ago
We need Biden to go. Trump would get this fixed in 2 days.

@SimSim-uc1vm
1 hour ago
Putin Forever:) only only president Mother Russia i love you so much:) RUSSIA i love you:)
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@KimiSiefen
5 hours ago
Putin was convincing until 54:53 , then he claimed he pulled troops away from Kiev. Troops never even made it to Kiev because of there failed invasion. If he makes claims like this, it is hard to believe anything else, as they can also be lies. Otherwise interesting conversation to listen to.
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@timbelcijan9858
8 hours ago
Damn, lots of bots and right wing sheep, love to see it. This was very ‘objective’ for sure.
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@kpkpm3604
5 hours ago
Putin starts to explain Russia and Ukraine by going back to Adam and Eve, well, not quite, but all the way back to year 862. And Carlson sits there and listens for 8 minutes and “loses track”. He looks like a little boy, not like an interviewer of any meaningful news outlet.

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@mattclarke1838
14 hours ago
Quite possibly the worst and most boring interview ever
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@Nationofvictory2023
11 hours ago
#putinkiller
#Navalnymurderer

@RapturianCitizen
5 hours ago
Now that we’re on this topic. Greenland and Alaska should be part of Canada. Screw Iceland, Denmark and America/Russia.

@gabriellafoszto5446
21 hours ago
For everyone reading this, please watch the 2 parts of “AGENTS OF CHAOS”, then “NAVALNY”. Both on Prime or HBO.
Then let me know if you will ever let yourselves fooled by Putin or Tucker.
One is the Devil, the other one his messenger.
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@alessandro7123
1 day ago
Arriba Russia !

@Mehowqoo
18 hours ago
This interview is a proof that Putin didn’t invade Ukraine because he was scared of NATO. It was simply because of his imperial ambition to conquer this country. That’s why he takes us on a crazy journey through one thousand years of the Eastern Europe’s history . He wants to say, look it was always ours, so we just take what belongs to us. In fact, his version of history is very manipulated, but unfortunately Tucker wasn’t able to pick it up.
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@tarasiewicz83
16 hours ago
DEMONITIZE AUTHORITARIAN COVERAGE. He is not a reporter, he sympathizes with DICTATORS
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@Liszukov
17 hours ago
Murderer
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@mayor9745
7 hours ago
В. В. Путин лидер номер 1 в мире!
Горжусь, Уважаю своим президентом
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@user-uz4qn6nt7b
21 hours ago
Alexey Navalny, you will never be forgotten! You did not die in vain. Russia will be free
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@paullehenaff3059
5 hours ago
Just propagranda
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@hareth3911
10 hours ago
Putin wants the soviet union back .
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@johnericson5168
22 hours ago
Tucker Carlson, please interview his opponent – Aleksey Navalny.
Ops…

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@riccardocoratella5237
6 hours ago
I LOVE PUTIN !!!!!!!!!!
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@Johanna-fd2je
7 hours ago
I lastet exactly three and a half minutes.

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@rickwhite3757
6 hours ago
What a useless interviewer Carlson is, stick to entertainment……..lol
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@masaacc-cr9uo
22 hours ago
Putin has serious mental issues
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@CodeCharmer
20 hours ago
In hind sight, Tucker was PLAYED and Putin timed this perfectly; allowing the interview now (after three years of requests) and the Navalny assassination, etc.,, DONT blame Tucker too bad for not asking tougher questions — afterall, Tucker and his team still had to leave Russia after the interview!
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@Idontknowmyrealdad
22 hours ago
2,317 Russian soldiers died right now! While Putin is looking like a bad bitch, telling bad jokes, about bad times for innocent people.
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@user-yz4ns4kl9f
1 day ago
You don’t know the real history. He is lying! Stop supporting him! Thus you support all the evil he does…
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@gavriloprincipp
1 day ago
Kosovo is Serbia.

@bfox3549
4 hours ago (edited)
bs, why give a killer such a free time to air his bull… pleeease
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@RozarioAgro-wq7sy
14 hours ago
Tucker, if in America a person earns $3,000, then in Russia $500, why don’t you compare salaries? Putin is only interested in foreign policy, and ordinary people live in poverty.
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@michaelkristensen7972
7 hours ago
Tucker must have been paid for this uncritical interview
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@22ergie
5 hours ago
“Poland collaborated with Hitler”…this guy is DELUSIONAL.
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@spirit3250
5 hours ago
Putin is goat
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@user-wv4nu9tj1r
23 hours ago
Навальному он обосрался давать интервью.
Вечная память героям!

@MarleyTinuviel
3 hours ago
Proves Tucker is not a journalist

@Antt007
21 hours ago
I’m waiting for the Satan interview next

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@cfpl2375
22 hours ago
The blood on your hands doesn’t come out with soap and water Tucker.
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@Denzamusic
7 hours ago (edited)
Well this interview was on of the worst shit i have seen. I am embarrassed. Lol. He got totaly dominated by putin. He did not give a fuck about questions and rambled about fake history claims. We can go way back to claim that ukraine is nordic soil. But putin, got what he wanted. He dominated tucker to a sub.
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@___123n
21 hours ago (edited)
Imagine if you were another country, listening to a country (USA) that grew its wealth, from taking another ones land such as: Native Americans, Africans, Spanish,etc and having an interview with a country ( Russia), in the process of taking another countries land (Ukraine).. wouldn’t that be saddening ..smh ? There has to be a hidden message here.

@paulineyi8462
9 hours ago (edited)
There is no doubt, that you got an insane amount of money for that sad parody on journalism, Tucker! Money dont smell we say in Russia! Look how much freedom we enjoy: you get detained for laying flowers on the monument, and if Putin kills someone , you can’t even grieve! Shame on you!
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@pedrosostrereyes4306
6 hours ago
Russian propaganda!
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Red Ice TV – How Jewish Activism Transformed the West, Who Benefits from Ukraine-Russia War? – Kevin MacDonald – Mar 27, 2022 – Transcript

John J. Mearsheimer – Who (Really) Caused the Crisis in Ukraine – Mar 2, 2022 – Transcript

Joel Davis – Mark Collett vs Greg Johnson – The Ukraine Debate – Oct 17, 2022 – Transcript

The Z Blog – A Ukraine Primer – Jan 13, 2023 – Transcript

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Douglas Macgregor – The US Want Russia to Collapse – Feb 1, 2023 – Transcript

 

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