Joel Davis: Another episode of The Joel and Blair Show. It is the 16th of May, 2025. Big show tonight. There’s been a lot going on and there’s a lot to break down.

 

But Blair, how you feeling? How you doing?

 

To be honest, I’m not feeling 100%. I’m thinking about why that is. I don’t feel. I’m not like fully sick. Like, I’m not sick, but I got a little bit of a slight sore throat that’s been lingering for the last two days. And I was thinking, why is that happening? I haven’t really been sick in a very long time. And then I realised that since the weather started getting cold, I stopped drinking orange juice. I was drinking a lot of orange juice. I love orange juice, but lately I’ve just been drinking milk, water, Monster Zero Ultra, that kind of thing. But I haven’t really been drinking any orange juice and I think maybe my vitamin C levels have dropped.

 

So maybe I need to get back on the orange juice. Maybe it’s as simple as that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Could be, man, I’m feeling okay. Since the cold weather though, my lips have been really dry and then this morning it cracked right in the middle there. So I kind of look like one of those the death metal dudes with the rings. Maybe it’s not that bad, but hopefully that heals up soon. [chuckling] I don’t know why you get drier in the cold. You would think, I don’t know, something to do with moisture in the air. I’m not looking into it.

 

I’m just excited that the document, the documentary, the first ever White Australia documentary, is now live. It’s available for everybody to watch. I watched it last night and thought it was great! Thought it was an awesome first effort by the people who created the documentary. It was really moving, especially seeing the Anzac Waltzing Matilda march kind of woven into and blended into the present day march. And it was great to see things from the other side.

 

It was great to see these boys for who they really are. There’s so many characters in the group who are true believers. So much genuine passion and you can see that all the boys in the group, these are the guys I know this is the side of the guys that I see personally when I work out with the guys on occasion. They genuinely believe they’re standing up for this country. They believe in what they’re doing and they are. That’s what they’re doing.

 

So it was cool to see things from the other side. I think it was a really cool doco. What did you think? You were in the doco. You featured in the doco. So what’s your perspective?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, I saw a draught of it a few weeks ago and I was pretty happy with that. But they made some slight improvements and made it even better. I thought it was 10 out of 10. Perfect.

 

So for those who don’t know, there’s a documentary that just was released last night. You can find it on the WhiteAusMedia YouTube [Now removed by YouTube], Rumble, Telegram or X account. You can find it on my Telegram channel. I shared it. Blair shared it. You could find it on Tom’s Telegram channel. He shared it as well. Everyone shared it in the Australian scene.

 

 

But it was a documentary made about our national meet over the three days around Australia Day in Adelaide earlier this year, which obviously made a lot of headlines. It was all over the news, the rally that we did. But it was actually a three day event, not a one day event. The day before we had a 10k run and fighting competition and the day after we did a series of speeches at a seminar. So it kind of details the story of the three days.

 

But I thought they did a fantastic job with the editing. It was incredibly entertaining if I say so myself. And you know, the quality as well was really high. I mean these are just guys from the Org, like this is Will and Ninja and a few of the Sydney boys in the Org just put this together themselves. We didn’t get any outside help, we didn’t have any money to do it. They did it all with our own equipment, their own computers and like a lot of people were saying this clip, I’ll just play this clip.

 

A lot of people were saying this clip went, went hard. I mean the whole thing went hard!

 

But yeah, I’ll play this clip because someone clipped it and I wanted to play a clip on the show. But you can watch the whole thing as I said on the WhiteAusMedia, Rumble, YouTube, X or Telegram. But here we go.

 

[04:17]

 

[Start of clip]

 

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(Joel Davis) Already the police have arrested many of our men for the crime of waving Australian flags, singing Waltzing Matilda and being proud White Australians. Look at all these police. It’s not even a protest, it’s a celebration!

There is a communist Aboriginal Invasion Day rally happening in the middle of the city with full permits from the state, full state sanctions. Meanwhile they can cancelled the official Australia Day celebrations. There are no official celebrations in this city. There is however, state sanctioned anti-Australian, anti-White Invasion day protests organised by communists and Aboriginals!

And we simply wanted to honour our nation, celebrate our Nation for One Day, our national holiday. And this has now been treated like criminals. This is an absolute outrage! It’s disgusting!

(NSM member. Shouting) White man! Fight back! White man! Fight back! (singing) You’ll come a Waltzing Matilda with me! (shouting Australia for the White man!

 

[End of clip]

 

Joel Davis: Anyway, obviously take it out of context, but it was cool. The main thing that we’ve been putting out, obviously these kind of shorter hype edit type things when we do a rally, or a protest or something like that. And what they kind of did was made like a 25 minute hype edit, I felt like where they kept that kind of hyped edit style. This was very dynamic, the music, a lot of changing Angles. But the quality of the footage, the quality of the editing very high. And everyone, pretty much everyone, has had a positive response to it.

 

I’ve noticed the kind of online sook brigade that usually talks shit about things I do or the organisation do, almost none of them said anything because they probably looked at the documentary and realised it was just too good to talk about. So they just kept their mouth shut! So that’s how you really smashed it when that happens.

 

But a lot of people were saying as well that they showed the documentary to like their grandma, one of their parents, or someone who’s more moderate, someone who doesn’t have necessarily the most positive view of us, and that it completely changed their minds about us. Which goes to show that it only really takes like one genuine depiction of us, rather than the depiction that’s given by the mainstream media to win over, I think, a lot of people to what we are. Because I think what came through in the documentary is our authenticity.

 

And that’s why I think the system is so afraid of us. Because we do have something quite kind of potent.

 

And I think one thing that we have failed to capture in a lot of the things we’ve done up until this point in terms of multimedia is the, as you said, is the kind of energy of the group, the communal energy. There’s a lot of distinct characters. You know, we’re very kind of like a very prototypical, I think, group of Australians of our generation. And there’s a lot of characters in the organisation and people know, you know me, they know Tom, they know Jacob, maybe they see like Michael Nelson or whatever, do his TikTok videos and things like that.

 

But they don’t really see what like the group is like. And it’s a very kind of like potent and sympathetic thing, I think, when people do get that insight. Which is probably why every, the last, like three people that have reached out to us from major networks that have wanted to do a documentary for us for the ABC or Channel 7 or whatever. Why? The editors have knocked it back because they realised that if they did a documentary about us that it would just make thousands of people sign up to the organisation [chuckling] and make people like us way more!

 

So anyway, this documentary was pretty great, was pretty good. It’s already done almost 100,000 views in a day.

 

So we’re pretty happy with that considering we’ve been so de-platformed and we had basically no base from which to launch it other than our Telegram accounts. It spread all over Twitter pretty quickly and things like that.

 

So if you haven’t seen it, go watch it and spread it around. Show your friends, show your family. It’s still on YouTube for now, so watch it on YouTube would be my recommendation because it’s a higher quality. Like it’s less compressed on YouTube than it is on like X or Telegram or something. So watch it on YouTube for a better visual experience. And if you’ve got like a smart TV, you can get it up on the television or something and yeah, but yeah, very positive reception all around.

 

Blair Cottrell: Gives all the boys representation too. A lot of the boys have been consistent in the activism. That’s what it seems like from the outside looking in. And a lot of the time they don’t get a lot of glory for it. You know, it’s boots on the ground, dutiful type work. But probably for the first time, that video demonstrates who’s been most active, who’s been most loyal, who’s been most consistent and dependable. And that’s really cool! Usually it’s just the spokespersons who get all the recognition. But you know, As I said, the guys all get representation.

 

So this documentary that was put together by members of, is it “White Australia” now? Is that what it’s called? And what is White Australia? This is my understanding is there was going to be a White Australia political party, but is this like different groups converging to form one community project? What is White Australia?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, White Australia is like the fundamental name of the entire organisation. The NSN [National Socialist Network] is an activist group which is a part of White Australia. And we have ambitions to create a political party obviously, which is probably happening later this year.

 

Then also there’s the European Australian Movement. I’m not sure if that’s going to be rebranded from the European Australian Movement to White Australia or not. But that’s more the community building aspect. The European Australian Movement is about community building, but it’s all interlinked.

 

So anyway, you can find WhiteAusMedia channel on YouTube. There’s a link if you’re watching on Rumble live, there is a pinned message in the description from Nathan Swindon where you can go and watch the clip. Oh, sorry, the video.

 

 

So, yeah, I think we smashed it with this doco. Did a great job and I’m very proud of the boys who made it.

 

And yeah, it’s just another example of how our defiance, our collective defiance, both like the events of the actual Australia Day weekend. But not just that, also like our ability to kind of withstand massive de-platforming efforts by the State and continue to keep putting out high quality propaganda that continues to be interesting and continues to get views despite the fact that we’re the most censored men in Australia.

 

[11:53]

 

 

Blair Cottrell: It definitely was a very different picture to the front page of Adelaide newspapers, popular Adelaide newspapers. A different perspective than the “very Nazi thugs”. I think that was the slogan they came up with. What’s the newspaper called in Adelaide? I don’t know. I’ve never been there.

 

Joel Davis: The Advertiser.

 

Blair Cottrell: Adelaide’s one of the only cities in Australia I’ve actually never been to, I’m ashamed to say. But I heard there’s some great culture there. The “City of Churches”, they call it down here in Australia. It’s known for having some pretty cool architecture and it’s an historic town for that reason. I’m gonna have to get over there and visit it, see it for myself.

 

But I noticed at the end of that particular documentary there was a recording of what seemed to be a conversation between two police officers where one police officer was saying some pretty alarming shit! Is that like legit? How did you guys come about having that recording? And is there more to that? What’s the story there?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, so if you’ve seen the footage from Australia Day or from the documentary, you can see that when we assembled that the War Memorial, we were singing Waltzing Matilda. And then basically Tom started giving a speech and he was arrested about, I don’t know, 20 or 30 seconds into his speech.

 

So what happened was, is that we actually rigged Tom up with a lapel mic, little like a small microphone here, so that when we caught the footage, we had like a higher quality version of his speech for later content that we would put out.

 

And obviously he was arrested. And then eventually they then grabbed the microphone off him. And threw it in the squad car. So we’ve got a recording of the whole period of him being arrested and so on a really high quality audio. We had someone there with a camera filming it.

 

But then once he’s thrown in the car and they took it off him, they just left it in the cop car. They didn’t turn the microphone off, so the microphone was still rolling. The police then get in the car and they’re following us around, they’re making more arrests and they’re talking all this shit for like over an hour. And we’ve got the recording of the whole thing!

 

One of them goes, I’ve listened to the whole thing. One of them goes to the other one:

 

“Hey, you know, is your., …”

 

Because they’ve got their body, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Bodycam.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, they can record audio and visual. So he says:

 

“Is your bodycam off?”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Yeah.”

 

He’s like:

 

“You’re not recording?”

 

He’s like:

 

“No.”

 

And he’s like:

 

“I want to kill these fucking cunts!”

 

And like he just goes on and on and on for fucking ages about how he wants to kill us and beat us up, blah, blah!

 

Blair Cottrell: Wow!

 

Joel Davis: Anyway, we’ve got his badge number, we’ve got a picture of his face. We know who he is, we know who the other cop is, we know everything about them. And we’ve got a lot more where that came from. We obscured the, we didn’t release it all though. We obscured the voices in the documentary, because we’re sitting on it. It’s a legal card that we want to play, and we’re not going to blow our load too quickly. We don’t want to undermine our ability to play that.

 

Blair Cottrell: How would this information be useful to you? Is there like a potential lawsuit there? I know that you still have pending charges in relation to Adelaide and the protest, or not the protest, the Australia Day march. You guys did. You still have to go to court for that, is that right?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, Tom and I have court on the 29th. So in about 13 days we have court at the same time, with the same lawyer.

 

Blair Cottrell: Obviously that recording that you guys have. What comes to mind, the first thought that comes to mind is the court going to accept that it’s provable that that is those police officers? Like, is that going to be easy to prove in court? Because they could just deny it. But maybe, I don’t know, is there a way to prove that it’s legit? Like, because I know that, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we can prove that it’s legit. We can prove that it’s legit! It’s not going to be difficult at all to prove that. We have the ability to prove it and that’s not the issue here. But look, what we’re going to do with what our legal strategy is with it. We’re going to keep the cards close to our chest for now.

 

But yeah, they didn’t know, they probably didn’t know that we had that until now. They’re retards!

 

Blair Cottrell: What’s your opinion on why they had so much hostility? Or maybe it’s not them, but this one police officer in particular saying that he was essentially happy to murder you guys. Why was he so hostile? What’s your opinion? Why the bias?

 

Joel Davis: Well, so there are departments in every police force, every state police force in Australia. They used to all be called Counter Terrorism, and now they’ve taken on in some states, different names. I believe they’re still called Counter Terrorism in South Australia. And they are not Counter Terrorism. They are political policing bureaus that are staffed by ideologues. And they train their officers into, and brief their officers, into basically being a communist style political police force in the vein of the Cheka or the Stasi, NKVD, these types of institutions in the Soviet Union, East Germany. Etc. They basically propagandized that we are the greatest threat to Australian democracy, that we’re terrorists and that we shouldn’t have political rights and to basically engage in tactical bending of the law in order to obstruct us from engaging in peaceful civic participation, completely unconstitutionally!

 

And so they’re kind of brainwashed and a lot of these Zogbot police officers, they’re not that smart. They get brainwashed essentially into basically becoming political police officers.

 

[17:56]

 

 

In Victoria Police, for example, there is an entire squad that’s dedicated just to the NSN. I know them from the fact how many times my house has been raided. It’s the same people every time. And I talked to the other boys and they’re:

 

“Oh, was so and so there? Was so and so there?”

 

So there’s a whole department of Victoria Police that’s dedicated just to us. And when they come into your house they know everything about you. They know all kinds of things about you and I know you’ve dealt with it before as well, Blair. They’ve rocked up to your house before. They flex how much they know about us and they try to intimidate you, etc. They basically see themselves as the “arbiters of public morality”. They think that they have the right to use the law unconstitutionally and completely illiberally in order to obstruct lawful and peaceful political activism.

 

So these people are pure scum! They’re either communists or they’re effectively useful idiots of communists. And you know, they’re pieces of shit! But people don’t know that they exist. Australians don’t know that this exists within our police forces. They think:

 

“Counter Terrorism, they’re probably making sure that crazy Muslims aren’t doing car bombings or something.”

 

But no, there’s probably a division of them that’s focused on that actually do actual work, but there are massive divisions of them that are focused upon so-called “Right-wing extremism”. And the directors of these police departments admit themselves in state legislatures and in federal Parliament that between 30 and 50% of their budget is going into Right-wing extremism. Which means groups like us. Not actual, … There aren’t terrorists. There aren’t Right-wing extremist terrorists doing terrorist attacks all the time. Like it would be on the news if that was happening, wouldn’t it?

 

So what are they doing with all that resources? What are all these people that are getting employed by these agencies doing? They are listening to my phone calls. Your phone calls, Blair. Everyone. They’re following us around. Like there’s weird cars that follow me around sometimes. There’s weird cars I see across the road all the time. Like they’re fucking surveilling!

 

Blair Cottrell: You want to be careful, you don’t get too paranoid.

 

I mean, if they want to follow you, it’s like, …

 

Joel Davis: I’m not getting paranoid though! Because they listen to my phone or they track my phone. Because when they have looked for me, without there being any basis for them to know where I am except by tracking my phone, they know where to find me. That’s happened multiple times.

 

So they’re tracking where I am.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe. But my perspective on this, …

 

Joel Davis: We have to design our operations. When we do rallies, we have to design our operations with incredibly strict protocols in terms of operational security, in order to prevent the police from obstructing us from even doing what we do. We actually have to like, operate at this really high tactical level which people don’t appreciate.

 

People at home don’t realise how hard it is to do the shit that we do. If we just like talk to each other around our phones, not even on the phone. If we just had our phone around and we talked about what we wanted to do, the police would stop us before we got there, because they would have an advanced notice of what we’re doing. We have to conduct incredible operational security.

 

So the police are very far up our arses and we still consistently beat them in a tactical battle which people at home don’t realise. They think it’s just as simple as showing up somewhere and pulling a banner out. It actually isn’t.

 

And as you can see on the footage in the documentary you can see that we’re arriving in small groups. Why do you think we needed to do that? Because the police were going on the news days before and they were saying that:

 

“We have an intelligence that Nazis are going to be disrupting Australia Day. And you know, we’ve got special powers and we’re going to shut them down and make sure that they don’t assemble in the city.”

 

Number one, who the fuck gave you special powers? You don’t have special powers. You’re the police. You enforce laws, you don’t make them up. They’d think that they get to make up the rules, number one.

 

Number two, what did they do on the day they arrested people for loitering and possessing an article of disguise which they said was a hat and sunglasses in their backpack was “possessing an article of disguise”. Ridiculous charges that have all been dropped now in court!

 

So the so-called special powers they have are just making up bullshit laws, applying them incorrectly and arresting people under false pretences!

 

So this goes to show you like what we’re dealing with. We knew that they would do something like this. And they were trying to intimidate us. They arrested a lot of our men in South Australia in the weeks beforehand, put them on ridiculous bail conditions that made it illegal for them to associate with us etc., to try and stop us. We did it anyway. We knew they were going to arrest us and we go:

 

“Let’s get the Australian flags out, mask off, we’ll sing Waltzing Matilda and they can arrest us in front of Australia and then we can let Australia be the judge whether that’s a reasonable way to conduct yourself!”

 

And all they did was made themselves look tyrannical to the Australian public, increase public support for us, and now they look stupid! All these court cases are getting dropped and we’re going to sue them and we’re going to get, we’re going to try and get compensation out of these cunts and we’re going to then fund our operations through their illegal and bullshit actions, which are designed to illegally obstruct our lawful political activity. And we’re now entitled to compensation. And we’re going to pursue that compensation.

 

[23:30]

 

 

And we’re going to go after other people, too. Senator Hansen Young from the Greens, going on television saying that we’re “terrorists” because we cause terror, because we march down a street waving Australian flag, singing Waltzing Matilda on Australia Day! Are you fucking kidding me? That we should be prescribed! I’m going to sue that fucking bitch as well! We’re going to sue a lot of people! Because that’s defamation. You can’t say that kind of shit with no basis.

 

And we’re going to go after a lot of people and we’re going to make a bunch of money in the court system. And we’re going to then invest that in our political party.

 

So thank you for the free money and thank you for the free publicity! These people think they can shut down our political activity by treating us like this. We’ve just used their tyranny to then facilitate the development of our political activity. It’s a game of jujitsu, you know. They think that they can like, stop us. They think that they can prevent us from politically organising by making all these empty threats like that we don’t have any intelligence, that we can’t see, that it’s all flimsy, that it’s all backed by nothing, basically. No, we’re smarter than that.

 

Blair Cottrell: It seems like Police Command definitely might have underestimated the ability of some of the guys in the group to predict outcomes and make those outcomes work to their advantage. Because the first thought that came to my mind after watching the documentary last night was it really seemed like the police played into your hands on this one. I don’t think Adelaide police needed to react the way they did. Probably it wouldn’t have worked out to your advantage so much if they left you alone. [chuckling] So it seems like it’s all been not only for nothing, but to the detriment of the State Police of Adelaide. But I’ve spoken about this. Couple of thoughts occurred to me there.

 

But in summary, I’ve spoken about the phrase “countering”, and “Counter Terrorism”, in my opinion, is repurposed “counterinsurgency”. And nationalist activists, particularly National Socialists, seem to have taken. Taken the place of “insurgents” in Australia, or a classified as insurgents would be overseas or like a rebel group. And the government developed certain countermeasures to prevent rebel groups overseas from gaining traction, popularity with the public, resources, that kind of thing.

 

And “countering” when it comes to intelligence or policing is a very aggressive term. It doesn’t just mean defending like it sounds like it means. It means a very aggressive and deliberate activity to disrupt and prevent certain groups, people, from doing what they’re trying to do, which is usually to generate public support.

 

The most important resource for any insurgent group overseas, according to counterinsurgency authors that I’ve read, like David Kilcullen, is the people in the surrounding region. That’s the most important resource. Just like the Australian public, the White Australian working class is probably your most important asset. They’re the people you’re trying to reach. Right?

 

So the process of counter terrorism or counterinsurgency, which from my perspective is what the Counter Terrorism department in Australia is going to or is meant to prevent you guys from appealing to the Australian working class. To paint you a certain way, to isolate you, to make it difficult for you to protest, demonstrate and communicate not just with each other, but your message with the public.

 

And so there’s a deliberate effort to interfere with you on that level. But that’s not legal in a democracy, is it? Especially if you guys are a registered political party, it’s not legal to disrupt you from communicating your message to the public. That would fly in the face of your human rights. And pretty much everything that our country is based on.

 

Joel Davis: Well, our constitutional rights are political communication, which is the essence of having a representative government, which is the fundamental provision in our constitution.

 

So yeah. They say that they’re “defending democracy”. No, they’re actually attacking a democracy. Everything they say is a lie and an inversion. You know, they try and portray us as if, you know, we’re somehow, because we support and revere Adolf Hitler and the National Socialists, historically in Germany, that were traitors to this nation.

 

The real traitors to this nation are them! Like, they’re the ones that are flooding us with foreigners! They’re the ones that are basically destroying the political freedoms of our people to represent themselves. They’re the ones that have sold us out, this political establishment, shipped our jobs offshore, that are basically cratering our way of life, destroying our quality of life and so on. We’re the ones with the solutions.

 

We’re the ones that actually represent the traditional Australian nationalist point of view. And we trace back to World War II a lot of these problems because that’s where you see the inception of this New World Order that they’re all signed up to that’s liquidating Australia. That’s liquidating what it means to be Australian. That’s liquidating physically, Australia, the Australian people. And, yeah, the men who fought in World War I and World War II were fighting for a White Australia! There’s nothing to debate. We talked about this on Anzac Day.

 

[29:05]

 

 

Now, a lot of people try to then bring up:

 

“Oh, well, I served in the ADF, I went to Afghanistan, I went to Iraq.”

 

Or a lot of them didn’t even go to Afghanistan or Iraq:

 

“I trained in the field with the ADF, and now we’re a multicultural fighting force.”

 

Fuck you! You didn’t do shit! You’re not a true Anzac. You know how many Australians lost their lives in the Iraq, War? Zero! Do you know how many lost their lives in Afghanistan over 20 years? We were there? 40! Two per year. There were twice as many Australians who died in the first 48 hours at Gallipoli than the amount of Australians who have died in combat since the end of World War II. Right.

 

Blair Cottrell: Would that be, …

 

Joel Davis: Sorry?

 

Blair Cottrell: Would that be arguably because we’ve become better at warfare than we used to be?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I mean, partly, … No, it’s because we’re fighting weak enemies. We were fighting World War I and World War II against serious fucking enemies. We’re fighting meme wars.

 

Blair Cottrell: Entire time, right? We were fighting the World Wars against our own kind, essentially.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. 65,000 Australians gave their lives in World War I. Why did we go to fight in World War I? We talked about it the other week. Because Australia wanted to ensure that the British Empire stayed strong so we could defend ourselves against Japan.

 

And so we didn’t want Britain to lose World War I against Germany because we feared the British Empire would collapse and then we’d be vulnerable to the Japanese, which was an expansionist empire, explicitly. That’s why we went to fight. That’s why our wartime prime minister said:

 

“Go and fight for a White Australia!”

 

Then in World War II, … So after World War I should say quickly, New Guinea was under German control before World War I. We, in the Treaty of Versailles, got New Guinea under our control, which is where we fought the Japanese in World War II.

 

When Japan entered the war in World War II, they took Singapore without a fight. The British Empire basically pulled out of Asia, and so we pulled out of the war with the Germans, were only fighting the Germans for a brief period. As soon as Australia came under threat and we realised the British Empire wasn’t going to protect us, we pulled every single Australian out of Europe and North Africa and brought them all home to fight Japan. And we fought a race war against Japan.

 

So the majority of the men who died in World War II, died fighting the Japanese to defend wide Australia. We represent that. We represent that! These fucking scum are the complete antithesis of what those men fall for. We are the true patriots. They tell us:

 

“Show some respect, get off the War Memorial!”

 

Like as if we don’t have the right to be at that War Memorial. We’re the only ones with the fucking right to be at that War Memorial, actually.

 

And then on Anzac Day, it was interesting at the Adelaide ceremony, at that War Memorial, they brought us up, they talked about how we desecrated the shrine with our presence three months ago and all this bullshit! They were the ones fucking desecrating the shrine with a fucking Welcome to Country! At that exact same ceremony. So put all of this in perspective. Everything they say is a fucking inversion, is a fucking lie!

 

But the Australian people, they don’t get to see our side of the story. So it does work to a certain extent, unfortunately. It’s not working as well. Less and less people are buying it. But if a documentary like that was allowed to go on Channel Seven, we’d probably get like 20,000 recruits in a week!

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s so important though, Joel, it’s very important to get your point of view across to your audience because enemy media, enemy propaganda is going to be consistent. And unless your message is there to counterbalance the enemy’s message, then ordinary people will just start believing what the enemy has to say about you. And documentaries like the one that was published last night aren’t just great, they’re actually essential! And you need to continuously, in my opinion, make not just docos, but short videos and content like that to re-establish a bit of balance in the perspective of the ordinary person. The ordinary person needs to see your side of the story. If they can’t, they’ll just side with the enemy because there’s no other resource of information for them to understand your point of view.

 

So the real job, like the activism, is one side of it. Protests, demonstrations, communicating what you believe openly and publicly, usually for the purpose of spectacle or agitation. That’s only like one part of the game. The real work starts when you get home after the event that you’ve just been engaged in. You need to get to work on formulating content propaganda to make sure your point of view, your version of what happened is presented to the public. If you don’t do that, you’re allowing your enemy the time and space to frame what you’ve done on their terms.

 

And like I said, unless your message is there to counterbalance that, people will just believe that.

 

So really good stuff. It’s good to see the boys that are getting into making the content that needs to be made. It was a good doco.

 

[34:04]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I thought it was a good documentary and spread it far and wide. It’s going to rely upon the grassroots promotion. But I think because it’s so inherently good, you know, post it on Facebook in certain Facebook groups where you think there might be sympathetic audiences, spread it around your friends and family. And yeah, I think everyone who sees it that I’ve spoken to says that it was brilliant, basically.

 

So I think we really nailed it. And, yeah, there isn’t much else to really say about the documentary other than watch it and spread it around. And I think, yeah, it gives you, like, an insight to the emotion of the weekend, which, yeah, puts everything in perspective if you’ve seen certain, like, things from that weekend without understanding the full context.

 

Blair Cottrell: There has been a little bit of good news today which is publicly available, so there’s no reason why I can’t bring it up. And that is Stephen Wells, political prisoner in Australia, who’s been a big subject, a big talking point for the last few months in relation to the Adelaide protests. Because he was arrested and detained, the police offered him the kind of bail conditions that he wasn’t comfortable with accepting, which basically wouldn’t allow him to freely associate with people with the same political persuasion as him of the same political persuasion.

 

But he was released today and all of his charges were dropped! Interestingly, this happened the day after the documentary was released. I’d be surprised if it was a reaction to the release of the documentary because I don’t think Adelaide police would move that quickly. I don’t think the justice system moves that quickly. But it’s still interesting, isn’t it?

 

Joel Davis: We know that it wasn’t, because a few other of our colleagues, Ethan Hendren, Graham Connolly, had court dates earlier this week. Both of them were in the documentary, by the way. Ethan was the guy that had a knee from the police officer in his back and was still singing along to Waltzing Matilda despite being arrested, which a lot of people commented on.

 

And Graham is the Irish guy who was having at least one Irish immigrant, like, you’re not really like a true Aussie group unless you have at least one Irish immigrant in the group. And yeah, he’s our token Irishman! And you could see him, you know, at one point in the documentary, giving what he thought about what was happening while he was being handcuffed. We got good footage of that.

 

So both of them were charged with “display Nazi symbol” as well as hindering police and refusing to “cease loitering” or whatever. All those charges have been dropped. They’re all completely free. That happened earlier this week. So both of their cases happening before Stephen’s, I think, it made it clear that obviously they’re just going to drop everyone’s charges. They’re probably going to drop my charges, Tom’s charges, etc. And so every single day that they held Stephen continuously in prison, if they’re going to drop his charges just means more compensation that they’re going to have to pay him for, basically false imprisonment.

 

So I think they just realised like every day they kept him in jail was just more dollars. So they let him out as soon as they like realised that it was over. It just kind of so happened at the exact same time.

 

Blair Cottrell: Crazy that they can hold someone for four months on charges that they knew weren’t gonna stick and then they just let you out, they dropped the charges. What, and like four months of your life is just gone? Surely there’s some sort of compensation that Stephen Wells can apply for now? Stephen Wells is currently enjoying himself a steak or just was recently. That’s what I heard along the grapevine. He might jump onto the stream tonight. We might be able to get some questions asked, might be able to get his perspective, his ideas and just his feelings about what’s happened, what’s happened to him over the past four months.

 

But I haven’t had any confirmation yet. I’m just kind of waiting on a message. He might just be too tired. He might have a steak and go to sleep. The guy’s been in jail for four months. And I can’t imagine he was treated very well in there given the attitude of Adelaide police towards Stephen and his colleagues. So we’ll get him on though. We will get him on and we’ll get his take on everything. But at this stage, I’m not really sure if he’s going to jump on tonight or not. Hopefully I’ll get a reply.

 

But does this mean that everyone’s charges will be dropped? Because Steven Wells had loitering. What else did he have?

 

Joel Davis: Everyone that has had the loitering charge, all of their charges have been dropped. There’s no active loitering charges remaining, I think except against Tom, which I’m sure will be dropped. All of the so-called “article of disguise” charges have all been dropped and the Nazi symbol charges have been dropped against basically everyone except Tom and I so basically they’ve just dropped the charges on everyone, more or less. There’s a few guys that have court dates between now and next week. I don’t think either have the Nazi symbol charges. But I think they’re going to get their charges dropped. If they’re going to drop everyone else’s charges, they have to drop the rest. They can’t just like selectively drop against one person and not others.

 

Blair Cottrell: If they think they have evidence to uphold display of Nazi symbol for one particular person because they think that person did have one, maybe they’ll take it all away. But if they don’t have any real evidence, then yeah.

 

[39:48]

 

 

Joel Davis: They’re saying the NSN patch was the Nazi symbol. Well, that we didn’t have, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that legally binding though? Is that true? Can they, …

 

Joel Davis: Well, obviously not. They’re dropping the charges, aren’t they?

 

So obviously they don’t have a fucking case!

 

Blair Cottrell: Didn’t they say you had an eagle belt buckle though? That was a Nazi symbol.

 

So that was something.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So they’re also saying that that is a Nazi symbol.

 

So I don’t know, maybe they might drop everything except my belt buckle charge. I guess we’ll see.

 

Blair Cottrell: The whole point is though that Nazi symbols shouldn’t be illegal anyway.

 

Joel Davis: Well, it’s unconstitutional.

 

Blair Cottrell: It is so like you’re basically tiptoeing around a law that is a bogus law in the first place. You have to obey it because it’s kind of legislated for the time being. But hopefully there can be a precedent where that law is overturned. Because it’s a symbol that doesn’t actually mean what they want people to think it means. I mean, what does the swastika mean, Joel? What does that mean in essence? What’s the meaning behind that symbol?

 

Joel Davis: Well, it has a lot of meanings, but it’s symbolic of our racial vitality as an Aryan people. It’s also a kind of solar symbol. It’s a symbol of, it’s an astrological symbol. So it has multiple connotations.

 

But it’s an ancient religious symbol. That’s what it is.

 

Blair Cottrell: The understanding that the ordinary person, like when you look at the swastika, specifically the swastika, as the German National Socialists used it. People are expected to think about the mass execution of jews and gas chambers. That’s what people think about when they see it.

 

Joel Davis: I think most people think racism, and they probably think anti-semitism. Those are the two things that they think. And yes, like those are two reasonable things to attribute to the symbol as well, I mean, that’s hardly, … Like the Nazis didn’t invent the racial connotation of the symbol. The symbols always had racial connotations, as. Well, that’s why they chose it.

 

But that’s why it shouldn’t be banned. This symbol that represents our race, how dare they ban it? How dare they!

 

Blair Cottrell: They want to ban, like they don’t want your race to exist.

 

Joel Davis: Exactly! They want to genocide our race. Exactly!

 

Blair Cottrell: I saw a black pastor once, you might have seen the same video. I think he was somewhere in America, and he was explaining that the swastika is actually a symbol of the sun.

 

Because if you look at it, there’s four right Angles and a right angle is 90 degree. And multiplying four by 90 gives you 360, which is a perfect circle. So the swastika is another way of drawing a perfect circle, mathematically speaking. And that is the symbol of the sun or the life giver.

 

But as you said, there’s all sorts of different interpretations around the swastika. I know that Hindus.

 

Joel Davis: That’s definitely is a solar symbol. That’s definitely true.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. Religions all around the world use it for their specific purposes.

 

But obviously there’s, what do you call it, exemptions or subsections of the legislation which allow it to be used for foreign religious purposes. It’s just not allowed to be used by White guys in Australia, basically. That’s what the law basically says which is bullshit!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, you’re even allowed to use it if you’re a Leftist who’s mocking us. You just can’t use it if you like Nazis or you like White people.

 

Blair Cottrell: Or if you actually believe it has some sort of meaning [words unclear] identity. Yeah. Well, …

 

Joel Davis: We didn’t have a swastika on us. We weren’t displaying swastikas because we are fighting that, but we don’t want to just keep getting arrested for displaying swastikas all the time. That’s obviously unproductive. So we don’t display swastikas.

 

In fact, The NSN [National Socialist Network] logo is not a swastika to begin with!

 

Blair Cottrell: You know what’s funny? Since they brought in the laws banning Nazi salutes and Nazi symbols, very few people who are actually true believers or National Socialist activists have actually been charged. Most of the people who get charged for it are just people doing it as a joke or just to stir up or because they don’t even understand the real meaning behind it. There’s even people who have been arrested locally down where I live, an hour out of the city, because they’ve been doing it in public and they’re just drunk on the street or something.

 

So the whole point of the law was to try to curtail a political ideology, but it’s just keeping the police busy rounding up troublemakers who don’t even understand what they’re doing or why they’re doing it. They just know that this creates a reaction and it’s entertaining for them.

 

But obviously there’s been a couple of activists who have been charged. Jacob Hersant, the head of the NSN, he’s still fighting in court against a charge for raising his arm up in the air, maybe. He didn’t even do it properly. I think he did a half salute or something. How’s that going? What’s the progress there? Has he been to back to court yet?

 

[44:43]

 

Joel Davis: I think, I want to say July he’s going to go before the county court. I could be mistaken, but it’s soon, it’s coming up.

 

But whatever happens at the county court, I believe if he wins, I think the state will appeal it. And I think if he loses, I think he’ll appeal it.

 

So I think either way it’s likely to then go to the Supreme Court of Victoria and then the same thing. I think if he loses or if he wins again, either side will appeal it and it will probably end up in the High Court of Australia. So I think we’re looking at a very long process there where it’ll kind of go up the courts, you know, piece by piece.

 

And so we’re probably looking at like a year until it gets to the High Court, at least the way that all these legal machinations work.

 

But I do think that the constitutional case is very strong and that he has got very solid grounds to win that ultimately. And what a moment that will be if we can have a victory in the High Court! Because that’ll knock out not just Nazi salute, the Nazi salute ban, but also Nazi symbol bands and so on, will have ramifications for multiple laws around the country if he wins. Imagine the boys at Canberra, at the High Court walking out after a victory. And we can all throw, you know, Roman salutes to the media. And the Roman salute can become a symbol of political freedom in this country, which would be a beautiful thing!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well, anything’s possible, especially when it comes to, you might say, introducing or even reintroducing new cultures, countercultures into the current culture. It might seem like it’s impossible to get people to accept the Nazi salute or the Roman salute as a popular counterculture thing, but you would have said the same about feminism 100 years ago. People would have said the same thing about atheism 200 years ago. They never thought those things would fly with the public. They never thought they would be part of any sort of popular social culture.

 

But things tend to go through a couple of stages when you’re trying to introduce or reintroduce a socially unacceptable concept or gesture. First, people just ignore it. They don’t even care about it. Then they start to notice it and they get a little bit annoyed by it. But then they begin to just accept it as part of their regular life. Those are the stages that new things you were imposing on a society seem to go through. And I think it was Napoleon who summarized it that way too.

 

But I just sent you a couple of articles, or a couple of links.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Because it’s a subject that I wanted to segue onto and I’m not sure whether you want to hit that subject yet or not. Let me know. There’s just a couple of articles about a story which really grabbed my attention for a couple of reasons that I’ll get into, once we get into the story. What the story was., …

 

Joel Davis: Well, let me read the news article out and then we’ll get your take. I’ll read the Noticer’s article on it.

 

Blair Cottrell: I was just going to summarize it before you start reading.

 

Joel Davis: Wait, wait a second, wait a second! Let’s park it. But I believe we’ve got Stephen Wells!

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay. Yeah, cool.

 

Joel Davis: Okay, maybe he’s having issues. Oh, we can touch on it while he’s always getting set up.

 

So here we go. Here’s the article. I’ll pull it off. So this is from Noticer earlier in the week.

 

Blair Cottrell: Just one second.

 

Joel Davis: :

 

“24 year old woman set male friend on fire because he joked that she should stay in the kitchen.”

 

 

[See: Woman, 24, set male friend on fire because he joked she should ‘stay in the kitchen’]

 

This is the victim and the perpetrator. Definitely got that crazy bitch expression:

 

“A woman who set a lifelong male friend on fire, leaving him with horrific injuries has told a court she did it because of a, quote, ‘misogynistic comment’. Corby Walpole, 24, doused Jake Loader in petrol and set him alight in Howlong, New South Wales on January 7 last year 2024] after he joked that she should stay in the kitchen and make scones instead of drinking with the boys. Aubrey local court heard on Thursday. The pair, who had grown up together and were both aged 23 at the time, were drinking at her home when she poured the fuel over him from a Jerry can and ignited it with a cigarette lighter, causing Burns to 63% of his body, The Border Mail reported.”

 

“He was in an induced coma for 10 days, spent another 74 days in a burns unit, required 10 surgeries and can no longer go in the sun, and has trouble regulating his body temperature as his sweat glands have been burnt off. Mr. Loader not attend court, but prosecutor Max Pincott read a victim impact statement where he said the attack had left him scarred for life and his parents, quote, ‘emotionally wrecked, constantly worried about my well being.’”

 

“‘This was not a single event with a single victim,’ he said as family members wept. ‘The damage reached reaches into my future and into the lives of those who care about me.’ She told the court, the perpetrator, that she felt, quote, ‘horrible, remorseful and guilty for what I’ve done to Jake. Not only Jake, but his family, his loved ones, our mutual friends, anyone involved in this case’, and that ‘Jake didn’t deserve what happened’. She told the court that he had been pushing her buttons, were under questioning, admitted they frequently made fun of each other and engaged in banter. ‘He told me to go to the kitchen where I belong because I’m a girl. I gave it back to him and called him a misogynist’, she said.”

 

“When asked why she had committed the crime, she said she, quote, ‘didn’t know’ and that she, quote, ‘didn’t want to injure Jake’. Mr. Pincott told the court that Walpole, who in December pleaded guilty to one charge of burning or maiming by using a corrosive fluid, should be jailed because she was not provoked and had time to reconsider before setting the petrol alight. ‘She could have walked away at any point, but she did not,’ he said. ‘She had ample opportunity for her anger to cool.’ But Walpole’s Lawyer, Peter Neil, claimed his client was a, quote, ‘sick young woman’ who had been suffering with her mental health at the time and now has PTSD from the incident and argued for an intensive corrections order. He told the court Mr. Loader had, quote, ‘pushed her over the edge’, that the incident was exacerbated by her abuse of alcohol and cocaine caused by a relationship that left her feeling depressed and trapped. ABC News reported. Judge Jennifer English adjourned sentencing until May 22, saying she had a lot to consider. She also has a previous assault occasioning actual bodily harm over a 2021 attack on a bouncer, which she also avoided jail for.”

 

[51:09]

 

 

So basically her lawyer is arguing that she shouldn’t go to jail for dousing this guy in petrol who was her supposed friend and fucking almost burning him to death, leaving him in a coma for a week and a half right now.

 

Blair Cottrell: All right, I need to interrupt, I need to interject. Stephen Wells. We’ll get back to the article in a minute. Stephen Wells is apparently trying to enter the waiting room through a mobile phone and you need to, …

 

Joel Davis: He was here, and he left. I don’t know what’s happening.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, he should be going back in now, I think because he just. Someone just tried to give me a call to let me know and I think they’re using the same phone that he’s got. You sent him the link to get into the stream, is that right?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I see him. Here he is.

 

Hello. How you going Stephen?

 

Blair Cottrell: Hey, Stephen Wells, mate! You have been talk of the town for the past few months. And you look at wild there, my friend. You’ve grown a bit wild. How you feeling?

 

 

Stephen Wells: Yeah, pretty good. Yeah. I decided I was going to come out as Nazi Gandalf! [chuckling]

 

So yeah, I wasn’t able to shave the first week and then they were only offering, you know, mankey razors so it was never going to get through the beard. So I thought I’ll just let it grow.

 

Blair Cottrell: So yeah, you’re looking wise, mate. You’re looking wise, wise!

 

Joel Davis: When you’re arrested you look like Hitler and now you look like Santa Claus. So with its full spectrum on the Odin because Tom Sewell always says that Hitler and Santa are like two manifestations of Odin.

 

So you kind of gone from one to the other.

 

Blair Cottrell: And Stephen Wells is the third! Mate, what was it like? You must, it must feel so good to be out. Where were you being held for the majority of the time?

 

Stephen Wells: So the majority of the time I was in a dry cell, in a punishment cell, in the remand centre. So in unit seven for anybody who’s familiar with it, which is basically the cell for the worst offenders of the worst offenders. So if I wanted to go to the toilet I had to ask the prison officers to flush the toilet for me because I couldn’t flush my own toilet. I also had to ask for a shower if I wanted a shower.

 

And then the last three weeks, they decided that the solitary confinement wasn’t forcing me to take the bail conditions. So they transferred me to Yatala Labor Prison* and stuck me in a punishment cell with somebody accused of attempted murder and arson. But he turned out to be a pretty good guy. So that backfired on them as well.

 

So, yeah, the last three weeks I’ve been in the general population along with the murderers and the rapists and all the rest of it.

 

So it was quite a surprise to be let out today. I was wondering whether I would beat Sewell in terms of his 210 days on bullshit charges. But I’m out in just over half the time, so I’m very happy.

 

[* Yatala Labor Prison is a high-security men’s prison located in the north-eastern part of the northern Adelaide suburb of Northfield, South Australia. It was built in 1854 to enable prisoners to work at Dry Creek, quarrying rock for roads and construction. Originally known as The Stockade of Dry Creek or just The Stockade, it acquired its current name from a local indigenous Kaurna word relating to inundation by water, which was used for the Hundred of Yatala. The prison has been expanded many times but still has functioning buildings that date to the 1850s. Wikipedia]

 

[Image: Yatala Labour Prison, South Australia]

 

Blair Cottrell: Second comes right after first mate! You still did pretty well. And well, I gotta say, it’s commendable that you took a stand because you had the opportunity to accept some pretty bad bail conditions that wouldn’t allow you to freely express yourself. And you were like:

 

“No, I’m not doing that. I’ll stay in jail until they’re going to let me out free!”

 

And you proved your point. They’ve let you out free. But did you receive any particular harsh treatment in there? Was anyone particularly unfair to you? Any of the officers?

 

Stephen Wells: The first week was pretty difficult, but mainly because I was so pissed off at the way the police had treated me and they tried to railroad me into the system, when I came into the remand centre. And about an hour before, they’d stolen T-shirt off my back. And I was just in a fucking foul mood! So I refused to wear the prison uniform for the first week. And so that caused a bit of an issue.

 

And then I’m on a carnivore diet, and so I refused to eat any of the slop that they gave me and they refused to give me anything on the carnivore diet for the first week. So first seven days I went hungry, didn’t get anything to eat at all! They kept offering me the slop and I kept saying no.

 

And then on the morning of the seventh day, one of the managers basically said:

 

“Look, you’re either going to eat the slop or eventually we’re going to force feed you and treat you as a hunger Striker.”

 

And that was a pretty low moment. But later that afternoon, another manager on the night shift, he was worried about “duty of care” and he finally got me some boiled eggs which they could have got me on the first day. So that first week was pretty rough.

 

But once I’d managed to get the concession on the prison uniform from the head of the prison and finally got my diet, they finally got them giving me some boiled eggs. Then I was willing to give them the respect that they’d failed to give me on the first week and then it got a bit easier. So other than that, no, I mean I’m pretty easy going and pretty respectful to just about everybody.

 

[56:36]

 

And yeah, I mean it’s pretty strong on the diversity hire in the remand centre, particularly in terms of the officers and stuff. But I’ve never actually had a problem with individuals for their skin colour or their religion or anything else. It’s just more the government policy that’s pissed me off. Because I know that regardless of how tolerant I am, that makes no bloody difference when it comes to national policy.

 

So I was basically expressing that view to all of the diversity hire that was in there and they all treated me pretty well because I treated them well, because I’ve got nothing against them personally. I just know that if the government keeps bringing them into the country that eventually there’s going to be, it’s going to be Bosnia and I don’t want Bosnia in Australia! So you know, expressing that view and they were like:

 

“Oh yeah, that makes sense.”

 

And so I turned a lot of the prison officers around and got a lot of respect in the remand centre before they sent me to Yatala.

 

Yatala was a bit different there. They’re just a bunch of goons. I didn’t get to speak to any of the prison officers at all! It’s just all regimented. It’s like being in a military prison. You know, you wake up, you’ve got to have your bed made. You’ve got to be standing at attention when they come and get you out. They don’t speak to you. They send you into the yard or the communal area with all of the other prisoners.

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s no pleasantries in an environment like that. I know that most prisons are supposed to be run like that, but the screws, the prison officers, they tend to just take it easy most of the time. And it’s not always that bad.

 

But what’s astounding to me is you were just four months ago, just under four months ago perhaps at an Australia Day march with an Australian Flag. You’re arrested, charged with “loitering”.

 

Stephen Wells: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: And then they put you in a punishment cell for four months with people who have committed serious indictable offences like attempted murder and arson. That’s incredible! I suppose you’re really happy to be out. It must feel amazing to be out. But once that feeling wears off, I could imagine you’ll be pretty angry, you’ll be pretty frustrated. Do you have a plan? What are you going to do from here?

 

Stephen Wells: I really don’t know.

 

I mean, the thing is, and what people really need to realise because they do this sort of stuff to people to try and intimidate everybody else into not making a stand. Because:

 

“If I make a stand, what if they treat me like Stephen Wells? What if they treat me like Tom Sewell? I don’t want to go to prison. I don’t want to do all of the else.”

 

And to all of those people who are scared because of what they think the government might do to them, I want to say to you that whatever they’ve done to me, it’s nothing compared to what I’ve got back! It’s nothing compared to the self esteem that I’ve received, to the spiritual uplift that I’ve received. You know, especially anybody who’s religious and has got a Christian background. The Bible really comes alive when it says:

 

“Blessed are those who are persecuted for my sake. Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake.”

 

You cannot understand just how true those words are until you make a stand on principle and get punished for something that you know you shouldn’t be punished for. Despite all of the shit, despite the fact that I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy, I am so happy and glad and blessed to have been through this experience. I cannot tell you just how good it is and how wonderful I will feel on my deathbed, whenever that will be, to look back on this moment and remember taking a stand, not knowing whether it was going to achieve anything. In fact, expecting that it was going to achieve absolutely nothing at all!

 

Because that’s the other thing that holds people back, is you think:

 

“Yeah, well, I could do something, but nothing’s going to change!”

 

And maybe nothing will. But something changes inside you that I can’t describe. It is just an amazing feeling to stand for what you believe in, regardless of the consequences and to face persecution knowing that you’re right and to withstand it. You and I both did the push up challenge in November, Blair. Yeah? With Mark Collett.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, that’s right. Yeah.

 

Stephen Wells: It’s like that it’s like that push up challenge was a fucking cunt! And Mark Collect deserves a punch on the nose for making me do it. [chuckling] But I’m 56 years old, and at the end of that push up challenge, I was expecting to be all muscled up and be fit and happy and all the rest of it. But I wasn’t. At the end of that push up challenge, I was fucked for a month! Everything was buggered, my limbs were buggered and everything else. I didn’t get anything, …

 

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danzimmons
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kikes trauma bond via a fake holocaust lol

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DissentingAdult
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have a Great weekend ya kunts

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Matt Hammond
2 hours ago
The older guy who came out of prison’s message was very inspirational. I must try harder to follow his example and keep the cuckery to a minimum. Even now, I hold back when talking to normies sometimes because I don’t want an argument…Must try harder to give less of a fuck.

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Rebellious Goy
59 minutes ago(edited)
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Guys did you recently turn on the heat in your homes? That would mean you’ve recently been breathing whatever crud settled in your air vents and on your heating coils over the last 6 months…possibly blowing onto your face while you sleep. I reckon that’s (turning on the heat) the cause of much of what’s called “seasonal flu”

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@Phaos
1 hour ago
stephen wells’ testimony was very powerful. god bless that man

Rebellious Goy
2 hours ago(edited)
I just finished watching the 2018 movie “Redbad” about this legendary Frisian:

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…then noticed new stream from Joel & Blair, its title: “Defiance”
Soul status: inspired, and ive yet to watch the stream ty brave lads for reminding us who we are

C Kyle
7 hours ago
Steven Wells is a hero

Plazma
8 hours ago

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yeah cheers im lost clicking about

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
somewhere in middle if memory serves o/

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Plazma
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
nice one

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@Plazma
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@PureNomad
8 hours ago
damn literally just switched odysee on

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Plazma
8 hours ago
Have a lnk to the Walsh one?

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
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ChainReaction
8 hours ago
think even that zogbot matt walsh spoke on it

Plazma
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
Following orders from the jew against thier own people.

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
some retarded Evangelical sects in US gave an anti-Boer statement, was all over jootube a day ago

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Plazma
9 hours ago

@ChainReaction
oh fuck. Who did and where?

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9 hours ago

@Plazma
apparently they attacked the Boer refugees… fml

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago
murrrica fuk yeah

Plazma
9 hours ago
yup. lol. He fought for Germany too. Miss him.

DissentingAdult
9 hours ago
lizards

@Voidevod
9 hours ago
Documentary went hard

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago
cheeky old bugger

danzimmons
9 hours ago
for Victory fuck niggers & their money lizard master kikes

Plazma
9 hours ago

@Sweet_Nerevar
Aye. My family were all telling my Grandad off. I was like “Hes 101, let him have a laugh”

DissentingAdult
9 hours ago
once a womanizer always womanizer

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago

@Plazma
lol dang plaz

DissentingAdult
9 hours ago
my Father sexually harassed the home healthcare nurses

Plazma
9 hours ago
hahaaha

@haraldr1984
9 hours ago
that’s insane

Plazma
9 hours ago
This is true. My Grandad died at 101 in December. They kept reporting him to my family for being a perv.

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago
Mo like being raped by ………niggers

DissentingAdult
9 hours ago
herpes is epidemic in the retirement homes

danzimmons
9 hours ago
nigger!

DissentingAdult
9 hours ago
at least the Hulkster used the word N****r

Plazma
9 hours ago
My nan and grandad were shagging into their 80s

danzimmons
9 hours ago
im old now, yes i do appreciate mature lady’s

DissentingAdult
9 hours ago
Arnold is a fággït

danzimmons
9 hours ago
such a shame what a kiked cuck Arnold has become, but like the rock he obviously did tricks with billionaire like Hollywood Producers’s for roles

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago
lol same

@Voidevod
9 hours ago
Vegeta made me a racist

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago
hell yeah pops

danzimmons
9 hours ago
me oldest grandson is old enough to start training now, it’s up to me to get him in the gym training now

DissentingAdult
9 hours ago
it takes a village as they say

danzimmons
9 hours ago
Fraud literally molested his own kike keeedz

danzimmons
9 hours ago
Carl Jung was obviously far superior to the pedo cocaine freak Fraud

danzimmons
9 hours ago
great advice Blair

danzimmons
9 hours ago
he was to much like his mother

Plazma
9 hours ago
If and when currency collpases or they move to their CBDC, Ton is the method to transact and reclaim our nations. Basically, its the poor mans nuclear weapon against ZoG.

Plazma
9 hours ago
Ton ia one way we can defeat the jew. Its why they arrested the head of telegram in France. Its a P2P crypto. Can be used over mesh network. That means it doesnt require the internet to spend with others. Its what cryptos supposed to be.

danzimmons
9 hours ago
he thought he could like it because it’s made by a nigger ie jew weapon, Fail

danzimmons
9 hours ago
exactly Joel, like those kosher Nazi’s azov lol

Cone of Silence
9 hours ago
what with the Labour Party here and England, Fabian’s, check that mob out and their support of the NWO and technocracy, Starmer is a Fabian in fact 46%, I think are Fabian’s, here whilst not as high people like Penny Wong are in the cult.

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago
I wish dude, they hate us soooo bad

Cone of Silence
9 hours ago
Here’s a thing I just found out about, Thorium Salt reactors, the US started it back in the sixties before the brain drain a white people, the went Uranium because of the bomb tech. Also…

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago
they don’t give two shits, I tried already

danzimmons
9 hours ago
it’s a shame what the systems done to our people, i live for revenge. i think we’ll get to see kikes kvetching when their criminal pedo hideaway israel is glassed by iran hopefully

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago
crazy bitch!!! neck yourself

danzimmons
9 hours ago
but they kick White’s doors down at 3 am for maximum terror

danzimmons
9 hours ago
& “mean tweets”

danzimmons
9 hours ago
they get away with literal murder & rape too, while Kike & women judge’s give White’s year’s for their first offense of making sticker’s

danzimmons
9 hours ago
like everything

danzimmons
9 hours ago
justice has been weaponized by the Kike

danzimmons
9 hours ago
she’s a witch obviously need’s to burn

DissentingAdult
9 hours ago
some of the most painful shit a human can experience he suffered much she should be buried under the jail

danzimmons
9 hours ago
womens right’s, that’s the problem

@Sweet_Nerevar
9 hours ago
lol dang

danzimmons
9 hours ago
im an orphan judge”

danzimmons
10 hours ago
like the jew that killed it’s parents, but judge have mercy because i have no mom or dad

danzimmons
10 hours ago
we are our worst enemy

danzimmons
10 hours ago
never join a cult, even the military

@Sweet_Nerevar
10 hours ago
pingers are gay # never shelve

danzimmons
10 hours ago
comfort is the enemy

danzimmons
10 hours ago
men

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
Asians can be some cruel evil cunts

danzimmons
10 hours ago
the Australian soldiers were feared by the enemy & revered by the ally military me

danzimmons
10 hours ago
fear is the mind virus once one is triumphant over fear they are feared most by our anti White enemies

@Sweet_Nerevar
10 hours ago
his name’s Steve, my brains not working today, soz boz

@Sweet_Nerevar
10 hours ago
nu name : iron will

danzimmons
10 hours ago
most people have no idea what it take’s to do what Steve did

danzimmons
10 hours ago
antithesis to the kikes verdammt ja!

@Sweet_Nerevar
10 hours ago
sik cunt

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
love you mister cow but you taste so damn good

danzimmons
10 hours ago
Thx Steve you are the fucking man

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
nothings better than beef

@Sweet_Nerevar
10 hours ago
but don’t

@Sweet_Nerevar
10 hours ago
talk bout nog dong bo

danzimmons
10 hours ago
being pro White

@Sweet_Nerevar
10 hours ago
tmi dowg

danzimmons
10 hours ago
Steve doesn’t need steroids lol he’s a bad maaan!

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
what was he jailed for?????

danzimmons
10 hours ago
lol what a phaggit Feduentes is

danzimmons
10 hours ago
sucking your cousin’s dick is the realest ~ Nick Feduentes

@haraldr1984
10 hours ago
that is a true man

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
my mother’s husband would cry at times because he was Godamn pissed but felt powerless

@Stryker!
10 hours ago
powerful example

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
you’re a better man mate

danzimmons
10 hours ago
he’s the real deal

danzimmons
10 hours ago
did they make you regret being a bad anti semite right!

Callaghan
10 hours ago
WHITE POWER 0/

danzimmons
10 hours ago
cruel & unusual punishment

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
mother fuckers

Callaghan
10 hours ago
HAIL STEVE

danzimmons
10 hours ago
fucking dull ass Bic razor’s

@Stryker!
10 hours ago
The Ai renderings of Hitler with a full beard. Based

danzimmons
10 hours ago
nice beard

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago

@danzimmons
yes she deserves to be 6 feet UNDA

danzimmons
10 hours ago
unaliving that cunt would be my life’s challenge

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
the booze !!!! the booze made her do it !!!

danzimmons
10 hours ago
only the fucking Taliban have their wahmens in check )-;

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
imagine laying in a hospital bed for months

danzimmons
10 hours ago
repeal 19th

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
he suffered a lot

danzimmons
10 hours ago
Wowfuck bitches are psycho

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
very painful shit …what an evil bitch

Callaghan
10 hours ago
jeebis

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
psycho lefty bitch

danzimmons
10 hours ago
now this is real, people don’t like to see other’s cry because they are weak & fear actually feeling anything real

Callaghan
10 hours ago
GOOD WOMAN

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
wear it as a badge of honor

danzimmons
10 hours ago
catch-up time

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
you made your ancestors proud mate

danzimmons
10 hours ago
our struggle is righteous.

Callaghan
10 hours ago
GO OFF KING

@Stryker!
10 hours ago
o/

Callaghan
10 hours ago
GREAT CONTENT BOYS 0/

@Stryker!
10 hours ago
graveyard shift, the only half way decent blokes

danzimmons
10 hours ago
°/

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago

@danzimmons
AMEN

danzimmons
10 hours ago
the German’s sacrificed everything attempting to spare us all from murderous psychopathic kikes that the entire world are waking up to finally.

curonian
10 hours ago
I don’t know the whole truth, but national socialists didn’t allow self determination to the countries, that they invaded

danzimmons
10 hours ago
Heil Hitler

Callaghan
10 hours ago
TRUE BLUE CREW

curonian
10 hours ago
Nazism represent and killing of white people who didn’t joined them as mercenaries, like at least two of my relatives…

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
it instills fear in our enemies

danzimmons
10 hours ago
that black pastor hate’s niggers lol

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
it’s a wonderful symbol

danzimmons
10 hours ago
Pastor manning ?’

Callaghan
10 hours ago

@FloridaKid
Good Mate 0/

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
how ya been ya kiwi kunt hahaha

danzimmons
10 hours ago
the system pigs think everybody’s scared to go to jail because they’re full of 60 iq low impulse niggaz lol not realizing that time only make’s us stronger smarter more determined

Callaghan
10 hours ago

@FloridaKid
cheeky cunt

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
communist faggits

DissentingAdult
10 hours ago
calagahan go sleep off your intoxication mate

Callaghan
10 hours ago
ANZACS UNITE

danzimmons
10 hours ago
instead of crying “i can’t breeve” like that junky nigger, our man continued to sing waltzing Matilda even with a pig’s knee on his back lol

Callaghan
10 hours ago

@danzimmons
0/

danzimmons
10 hours ago
Cal °/

Callaghan
10 hours ago
TEAM WHITE UNITE

danzimmons
10 hours ago
our ancestors are proud of you & ashamed of those sellout zogbot White anti White pig’s threatening to kill you because they know deep down you are on the right side of history while they work for the bolshevik murderous kikes

danzimmons
10 hours ago
exactly, it’s obvious the politicians have sold out for a little power & their 30 piece’s of silver ie some fiat shekel’s from their kike money master’s pathetic people & they will pay

danzimmons
11 hours ago
peace through strength lol more like tyranny through being anti White shabbat “goyeam” cuck zogbot’s imagine being a pig today policing one’s own people from fighting the psychopathic kikes

danzimmons
11 hours ago
doco look’s great luv the use of The man N Black ie Johnny Cash song N the opening

danzimmons
11 hours ago
let’s fucking gooo!

dreadneck
11 hours ago
Dixie stands with Aussie brothers

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: Should be live. It is the 14th of December [February] 2025. It’s Valentine’s Day. But instead of spending the evening with a lucky lady, instead Blair Cottrell has decided to spend it with me. So, ain’t that something?

 

Blair Cottrell: I did notice a lot of couples out. I was at the gym before and it was, I suppose, wholesome, refreshing to see a lot of nice Australian couples going out for dinner on Valentine’s Day. You know, I’m one of those people who thinks it’s just a gimmick to make men buy stupid little gifts for their wives or girlfriends, that I can be a bit of a cynic in that regard. I don’t think there’s any reason why people can’t enjoy Valentine’s Day as a nice night out. And that’s what a lot of people were doing. So that’s great! Good for them.

 

Well, we’re gonna sit here and talk about politics because we’re too cynical for Valentine’s Day, apparently.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. [chuckling] So anyway, I think the main topics in the news at the moment are obviously ones that we’ve been talking about on the show a lot lately, which is the totally contrived psyop to take away our freedom of speech and just in general in this country at the state and federal level through these contrived so-called “anti-semitic hate crime” psyops. Where if we just go through some of them, there was obviously the first one in this wave, which was in Ripponlea, in Southeast Melbourne, where a synagogue was firebombed or at least set ablaze at 4 am. Firebombing kind of implies something different, actually. I don’t think it was even firebombed. You could say it was just set on fire at four in the morning. Now that was labelled terrorism immediately. But they haven’t actually got a suspect.

 

So then they don’t have a motive. So how do they know that it was terrorism? There’s no official suspect, no one’s been charged with any offences in relation to it. The investigation is entirely inconclusive. Which if you’ve been watching this show on a weekly basis, you would remember that was my exact prediction at the time, that there would be no suspect, that there would be no charges, because I suspected that the jews did it themselves! And there was a lot of context around that that made it incredibly suspicious.

 

Why were there a couple jews inside at 4 o’clock in the morning? Jews don’t pray. They’re not like Christians, they go to the synagogue to read and study the Torah, the Talmud. It’s a legalistic religion. So why do you need to be there at 4 o’clock in the morning? It doesn’t actually make any sense. And secondarily you also have the CSG, the so-called Community Security Group or whatever it is, which is a Mossad front group. It is an IDF front group. It is a jewish security organisation that is paid for by Australian taxpayers that is given all these special rights where they can cruise around with military grade weapons, ex-IDF soldiers in their ranks, to protect jewish community sites and the jewish community in general. They liaise with Victoria police. They all had the night off for some reason. Why were they all told to have the night off? They weren’t there. So that’s incredibly suspicious.

 

And then also, additionally, yeah, you have the reality of, well, whoever did the attack, they obviously weren’t anti-semitic in the sense that they wanted to actually kill anyone because they showed absolutely zero interest about the people inside. They didn’t attack the people inside.

 

Now obviously I’m not endorsing this, but I’m saying if they were motivated by trying to kill jews, wouldn’t they have tried to or at least hurt them? No! Instead it was the exact kind of sequence of events you would expect if they did it to themselves, if it was a setup. And even one of the jews who was inside had this whole incoherent story about how he had a burnt hand that made no sense.

 

And I remember Blair speculating that he probably got accelerant on his hand because he was probably culpable in some way with setting the thing ablaze. So there was that.

 

Blair Cottrell: The thing is, all we can do is speculate. I mean, it’s possible, it is very suspicious when someone is discovered at the site of an arson attack with a burnt hand. You know, you got to admit that’s a little like any detectives, like what do you call it, investigating this case. They would agree that their first suspect would be the guy that was discovered on the scene with his hand burned.

 

But obviously they haven’t charged that guy. They have their reasons for not charging that guy.

 

But when you said that jews don’t pray, is that true? Like they don’t pray at all or do they have some measure of prayer? Do you know what goes on in those synagogues? Is it all just study of the Torah? Because I’ve seen jewish characters like Orthodox ones reading from a book and like rocking back and forth in some sort of what seems like prayer. But you just said they don’t pray. Is that true? That they don’t pray at all?

 

Joel Davis: In my understanding. I’m not an expert on the wacky religion, but I do know that that’s the purpose of the synagogue. Because the reason why synagogues were originally built, because obviously synagogues have been around for thousands of years. They’re originally built because they were built at a time when you couldn’t own books if you’re an average person. The average person wasn’t even literate, let alone do their personal libraries because the printing press wasn’t invented yet. And so books were incredibly expensive artifacts that took a very long time, a lot of expert labour to create because it had to be handwritten on like papyrus and like that.

 

And then there was only a very small faction of society that was actually literate enough to read it. So often books were there to help the small minority who were literate basically read and recite things to a larger audience.

 

So if you’re a jew, you attended the synagogue because then you could go and hear, you know, literally the book being read because it’s a legalistic religion. So it’s important that you understand all the details because there’s all these special rules and so on you have to adhere to.

 

So that’s kind of the structure of their religion. It’s not the same thing as a church that we would understand in a Christian sense or even a mosque.

 

[06:25]

 

But yeah, anyway, the point that I’m making is that that was suspicious and everything that’s happened since has been suspicious and we can’t really expect the police to properly investigate it if the jews were involved because of obvious political reasons. Then you had a few other attacks that have happened. A lot of them were in Sydney, like arson attacks.

 

There was also like a bunch of graffiti, so-called anti-semitic graffiti, which again, it all is very suspicious. Who would be motivated to go and just spray paint a bunch of swastikas on a synagogue? It’s a little bit contrived.

 

There was the big “Fuck Israel” that was spray painted in a jewish suburb on a wall. But they spelled Israel wrong. You think if someone was motivated enough to make a political statement like that, they’d at least know how to spell Israel. It’s like kind of like a jew:

 

“All these dumb goys, they don’t even know how to spell Israel correctly.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Has there been any movements against the pro-Palestine Muslim community in response or as a result of this anti-semitic task force that apparently has been created in response to these attacks? Well, you know, their attacks, they’re phrased that way, but really we’re just talking about graffiti and property damage. So they’re not really. And no one is specifically being attacked here. It’s kind of just vandalism. Attack is the word that the press has been using, though, to justify the creation of this special anti-semitic task force.

 

But do we know of any movements that task force have made against the pro-Palestine movement? Because it seems like at this stage, most of the directives, the government directives have been against the far-Right or the nationalist community in the form of censorship. So do we know of any movements against pro-Palestine groups or not yet?

 

Joel Davis: Not that I’ve seen.

 

But it’s not that I like super plugged in those circles because they’re all communists and Muslims and these are not people that I associate with. But I haven’t seen any high profile instances of this.

 

But also it’s all very recent and things have kind of plateaued a little bit with the situation in the Middle East.

 

So I think it’s kind of gearing up for the next phase because obviously Trump announced plans to seize control of Gaza and forcibly expel the population and so on. So I could imagine the protest movement ramping up if any of what he has stated that he wants to do actually starts getting implemented. But at the moment there’s a ceasefire, right? So at the moment we’re in like an interregnum in the whole Palestine situation. And so the protest movement hasn’t been as voracious as it previously was.

 

But what we’ve seen from Israel, the Israeli government, is that they’re very upset with Anthony Albanese for being insufficiently up their arse hole. Now, Anthony Albanese is clearly not anti-Israel and the statements of our government are not anti-Israel, but they are insufficiently supportive of Israel from Israel’s point of view. And we’ve seen their leadership come out many times and complain about this. But what’s really pertinent and what really the smoking gun in all of this is that the Sydney arson attacks on synagogues, there were arrests made in those instances.

 

And when they arrested people, the determination of the police, the head of the Australian Federal Police, and even Anthony Albanese himself, our Prime Minister, was that they weren’t politically motivated attacks, but they were basically it was conducted by organised crime and organised crime were being paid by foreign actors, in crypto.

 

Now, it doesn’t take very much thought to realise who those foreign actors must have been, which is Israel itself! There’s no other foreign state that would have the incentive to do this. So almost definitely, now we don’t have hard evidence of this, but the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. Almost definitely what we’re seeing is that Israel is basically conducting false flag attacks against the Australian jewish community in order to take away our freedom of speech, to punish Australia for being insufficiently pro-Israel, because they feel entitled to our support.

 

But of course the mainstream media doesn’t present it like that and no leading political figure will come out and say that, even though it’s blatantly obvious to anyone who’s paying attention. You know, I couldn’t be more vindicated about that “Jews Hate Freedom” rally. I really couldn’t.

 

Then also you had that caravan which we talked about as well, which was discovered in Sydney which was full of all these old explosives with a note inside saying, with an address of a synagogue and “fuck the jews” written on it. It was so cartoonish to the point that even Andrew Bolt was saying:

 

“This seems like a joke!”

 

And then we had articles coming out in The Australian [newspaper], I think yesterday or the day before where the article’s headline was, oh, it was an opinion piece. Ah yes:

 

“Jewish lives are more important than freedom of speech.”

 

And we’ve seen our politicians over and over and over again reiterate that the reason why, the main reason why they’re strengthening Hate Speech laws at the federal and state level is to protect the jewish community.

 

Yet they haven’t got one instance of that connects a political motivation to any of these so-called “acts of terrorism”, which, I mean, graffiti isn’t terrorism. Like spray painting a swastika in a synagogue isn’t terrorism by any metric. You could say arson attacks are terrorism because it’s like, I think that’s fair enough to say.

 

But it’s only terrorism if it’s political. But there’s no political motivation that has been directly linked to any of these attacks. So you can’t say they’re terrorism either.

 

And the only suspects that we actually have behind these arson attacks realistically are either the jews themselves or Israel itself. They haven’t been able to link one pro-Palestine communist or Muslim or one, you know, anti-semitic nationalist to any of these attacks. And the Feds are pretty far up our arse. I’m sure they’ve got their microscope on the pro-Palestine movement as well. If any of us were involved I’m sure at least one arrest would have been made by now. Right? So it clearly wasn’t us yet.

 

[12:55]

 

Blair Cottrell: But it’s not about making arrests, it’s about censorship, so far, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: The fact that there is no proof that any of these attacks were politically motivated and no one is actually in custody for having committed any of them, so they don’t really have a strong idea of the motivation.

 

The fact that no one has actually been attacked yet.

 

There’s been no physical direct attack against any jewish person. Yet the government has gone ahead and made strong efforts to try to apply political censorship to people on the right side of politics. Specifically, we’re no longer allowed to use X because apparently the Australian government is kind of trying to use all sorts of language to effectively bully Elon Musk’s platform into not allowing us to speak on that platform. And so far they’ve been successful in doing that.

 

I could imagine there’s a wing of government that’s like:

 

“What can we call them? What can we type? What word salad can we create to try to bully X, the people working at X to censor these people? Let’s try national security threat, let’s try domestic terrorist groups. Let’s try under investigation for terrorism and see if that works.”

 

I can imagine they probably sent dozens and dozens of requests that were ignored and then finally some collection of words they came up with actually got them the result they were after. But they probably ramped up their efforts to censor us as a result of all of these “anti-semitic” attacks.

 

But like you said, there’s no actual proof that they’re politically motivated and there’s certainly no proof that anyone from our wing of politics is involved in any of this stuff. It’s looking a lot more likely that some of these attacks, seeing as the jews are the primary beneficiaries of the attacks, may have been committed by people in that sort of circle, the Israeli, pro-Israeli jewish circles.

 

But it’s interesting that jewish people legally and socially have more rights and privileges in Australia than White people, than the people who are currently experiencing censorship as a result of the anti-semitic attacks. White people don’t have any ethnic privileges or legal protections in Australia. There is no legal precedent for a White person being discriminated against because of their race or some religion they believe, like in Christianity or something that I know of its almost laughable if a White person says he’s going to take someone to court for racial vilification. But the laws extending to jewish community and the jewish people, stemming from the Racial Discrimination Acts. I think it’s called the Racial Discrimination Act. What is it? The Racial and Religious Tolerance Act? Actually, I think it’s called.

 

They extend out into state law, and there are so many legal protections and precedents that jewish people can use to protect themselves, already. They already get so much money from the government, and now they already have a special task force that’s out looking for anyone who’s critical of jewish, and is nuking them from the Internet.

 

It’s like, how much better could life in Australia be for jewish people? How much more protected of a class do these people need to be like? I think we need to have a look at creating some more legal protections for ourselves as White people so that maybe we stand a chance in the future of having at least equal rights to the jews.

 

Joel Davis: Well, the thing is, a lot of the laws on the books are universal. So in theory, the law should be able to be applied in defense of Whites. But the problem is., …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but it’s not. Let’s be honest. Like I said, it’s laughable. It’s not. It doesn’t work that way. Even if you ask the AI program, Elon Musk’s AI program, Grok. If you ask that program, as I demonstrated about a week ago on my Telegram, you ask that AI program, are black people protected in Australia? It will say yes, and it’ll give you a direct link to racial religious tolerance acts. If you ask, are Asian people protected? It will say yes. If you ask, are jewish people protected? They’re really protected. There’s more references and laws, you know, pointing to the protection of jewish people than there are for any other race in Australia. Then you ask this AI program, are White people protected in Australia, yes or no? It just says “no” straight up. If you don’t say yes or no, it goes, technically, everyone is universally protected under the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act, but there aren’t any legal precedents where a White person has taken anyone to court for discrimination because of their race. Even though discrimination happens all of the time. White people are considered the devils of society responsible for all atrocity in the past. You got White kids in school being raised by activists recruited by the government to teach them that they’re evil for being White because they genocided Aboriginals!

 

And the only reason they exist now is to pay for all of the atrocities they’ve committed or their ancestors committed in the past. Right? So young White guys are growing up in that environment where they’re heavily discriminated against and demonised and there’s no legal protection for them. Not only is there no legal protection, there’s no community environment for them.

 

And then the government wonders why they go to Nazi groups. The government’s like seems to be confused as to:

 

“Oh my God, why are these Nazi groups growing and forming?”

 

Maybe it’s got something to do with the fact that the government is employing activists teaching young White guys that they’re nothing but evil, genocidal barbarians! Right? If there was a sort of community network or if the government was willing to tolerate some measure of White Identity Politics, then Nazi groups wouldn’t be growing and young guys wouldn’t be joining them. Right? I like to think that the strong nationalist, the growth of strong or radical nationalist groups in Australia is only a natural, organic response to the government being so vehemently anti-White.

 

If you just look at the education system, it’s full of activists, as I said, teaching young White guys that they’re evil, that they don’t have anything to be proud of, and that their ancestry is nothing but genocide and barbarism! You teach young White guys that some of them are going to try to make amends for it. They’re going to become feminists and transvestites. But not all of them are going to respond that way. Some of them are going to start looking for environments and community groups where they do feel a sense of pride, where they do feel that their ethnicity actually means something. Right?

 

[18:47]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, in theory these laws can be used in our defense, but the reason why they aren’t used in our defense is multifarious and subtle.

 

Number one, if you’re a lawyer who was a pro-White lawyer, you could be booted off the bar. Meaning you can’t actually practice law because of your political associations. So there’s that. Like the fact that we don’t have legal protections for lawyers means that we don’t actually have legal protections in general. Because if lawyers can be politically discriminated against, then anyone who has the ideology that is discriminated against at that level is being discriminated against in toto by the entire legal system. So that’s one reason.

 

The second reason is because multiculturalism is also a fraud. Every single culture except White culture or Anglo-Celtic culture is able to have representative bodies that are consulted by government and included within the formal structures of multiculturalism.

 

So “multiculturalism” is a fake term. It basically means everyone culture, everyone’s culture except ours. Basically everyone’s culture, except White people, except actual Australians. So it’s anti-Australian culturalism or anti-White culturalism, if anything. So there’s that reason as well.

 

So there’s no actual representative bodies. So that if White people are discriminated against or are victims of racial hate crimes, there’s no community bodies that come in and defend them and ensure that there’s media coverage in their defense and put pressure on politicians and so on. We don’t have community leaders. The closest thing we have to that is literally us. But we get demonised as like the most evil, dangerous people in all of Australian political life.

 

So obviously [chuckling] that isn’t really working in terms of, at least at this stage. That’s what we need to build and we’re going to work towards. But we’re nowhere near that at this point. So those two things basically make these laws, even though they’re in principle universal, in practice, they can’t actually be universally applied.

 

But additionally, it’s also the prevailing attitude, like the prevailing attitude is that if a White person sees themselves as a victim on the basis of their Whiteness, that this is somehow a danger and a threat to the entire ideological edifice of the system. White people can’t be victims! If a White person is a victim, they just happen to be a victim. It has nothing to do with race or identity. It only can be factored in when someone’s a minority. And obviously that’s like the large contextualizing factor.

 

And then that gets played into by conservatives, because conservatives at least like the conservative kind of commentary, you know, who they will, generally speaking always try and boil everything down to individualism and say:

 

“Well, we shouldn’t be seeing things through the prism of race. We shouldn’t be seeing things through the prism of identity politics.”

 

Well, the reality is White people exist as a group, and so people can hate Whites as a group and attack Whites on the basis of their group identity. Whether you think White should identify as a group or not, that’s just a reality. White people are being attacked on the basis of being White all the time, whether it be institutionally or in the streets or whatever.

 

And so there needs to be some kind of defense. And they’ll say:

 

“These conservatives who say identity politics is bad and it’s divisive and so on.”

 

When jews come along and play identity politics and talk about what’s happening to the jewish community, they don’t go to the jews and say:

 

“Oh, stop doing this divisive identity politics, we’re all individuals. Being jewish doesn’t matter.”

 

They go:

 

“Oh, yes, like, it’s so bad what’s happening to the jewish community.”

 

And it’s like, wait a second, how come your whole anti-identity politics thing just goes straight out the window when it comes to the jews? So it shows the kind of fraudulence inherent to that whole worldview.

 

[22:49]

 

So anyway, the reason why I brought up the fact that there’s been no arrests as well is just to make the point. Or there has been arrests, but if the arrests that have been made, not one’s been politically motivated was to make the point that this is entirely contrived.

 

But secondarily, even let’s say there was a politically motivated terrorist attack against jews, that still wouldn’t justify changing our Hate Speech laws. Because political speech is something that is completely distinct. There already are laws against terrorism. It’s already illegal to commit terrorism. It’s already illegal to commit arson or violence or even to graffiti on people’s walls. So there’s no need to change any laws. You can just enforce the existing laws.

 

So it’s like, ridiculous for two reasons. Like, even if you were to accept, even if they were right, that the jewish community is being targeted, it still wouldn’t justify what they’re doing.

 

But anyway, this is a good bridging point to another kind of development, I guess you could say. But again, it’s also like a running theme, which is the question of how come none of these conservative commentators will debate me. I mean, to be fair, Drew Pavlou debated me, so he actually had the balls to front up and do a debate. And I guess you could say he’s a conservative. I don’t think he identifies as a conservative, but he’s delusional. I told him this, actually, when I met him. When we did the debate, I said:

 

“Drew, you’re a conservative. You’re a neoconservative.”

 

And he said:

 

“No, I’m a Leftist. I’m a liberal.”

 

I said:

 

“You’re a neoconservative. Like you belong in the Liberal Party, or if anything, or maybe even One Nation you don’t actually belong in the Labor Party.”

 

And he loves jews too much, [chuckling] amongst other things, so maybe he’s started to realise that. But other than him, I really can’t think of you know, I’ve challenged quite a lot of people. I’ve challenged Avi Yemini, I’ve challenged Rukshan Fernando. I’ve challenged Joel Jammal [Turning Point Australia], and they’ve repeatedly rejected the request to debate me or the challenge to debate me.

 

Yet all three of them have a lot to say about me and you and the rest of the movement. All three of them, particularly Rukshan and Avi, they can’t stop talking about us lately. All three of them say that White nationalism is ridiculous! Like we have a ridiculous worldview, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it’s ridiculous if you’re not White. Right? Obviously, it’s not advantageous to you if you’re not White. So none of these guys you described are White, to my understanding. So obviously they’re not going to have any skin in the game with White nationalism.

 

Joel Davis: But that’s the thing as well. Like, they can’t even use the excuse that:

 

“Oh, well if I did something with you, then people might think, like, what happened with Sam Newman.”

 

Even though Sam Newman pushed back against you and Tom.

 

Then there was the accusation that he was actually sympathizing with you. Well, no one’s going to think that these people are sympathizing with us because, well, number one, it’s a debate. You know, if it’s not a debate, if it’s more of a friendly discussion, that accusation can make some sense. But if it’s a debate, well, you’re oppositional and secondarily, they’re not even White. So obviously they’re not Nazis. Obviously they’re not nationalists like White nationalists. So that threat doesn’t actually exist.

 

The only conceivable reason why they keep refusing to debate me is because they know that I’ll fucking win the debate and make them look retarded! And they’d basically be participating in a spectacle that embarrasses them.

 

Blair Cottrell: What if they’re worried about just providing a larger platform? They just don’t want to provide you a platform. Maybe that’s part of the reason?

 

Joel Davis: Well, in the case of well, to be fair, Avi Yemini has a pretty large platform, but he does a show pretty regularly.

 

Blair Cottrell: He doesn’t get many views, though, for someone with the amount of followers he has, his views are shit!

 

But I think his views would be boosted massively if he did debate you. Like, he could start rivaling the kind of views you used to get on Twitter.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it’d be the biggest thing he’s done in a while to debate me. Everyone would tune in. I think people around the world would be interested in that because Avi has got a bit of a global reputation. Because he’s always he’s not just talking about Australia, he’s always defending Israel.

 

Blair Cottrell: The whole position that Avi and some of these other characters, these Right-wingers. What would you even call these people? How would you describe them? Conservatives of some type? The position they used to take is like the position against the:

 

“Oh, we don’t like feminism. We want to promote family values and quote, unquote, “‘Australian values’. That’s what we stand for.”

 

That stuff’s not cool anymore. It’s not edgy enough anymore. You can’t just stand by this whole, …

 

Joel Davis: Didn’t he beat his wife? And like, isn’t he like, raising., …

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know, that’s a personal matter.

 

But what I’m saying is say they stand for, they’re against feminism. They’re for family values. They don’t like transvestites and stuff like that. All right, but that sort of stuff isn’t pushing the envelope far enough these days. It’s not cool enough anymore. You have to get a bit more fundamental than that! You have to get a bit more ethnic than that. But these guys don’t want to get ethnic because if they get ethnic, then they kind of forced to admit they’re just pretending to be Australian and they’re really just supporting a kind of idea or an abstract theory about values which is advantageous to them because they’re not actually Australians. They’re just pretending to be. Right?

 

[28:13]

 

 

Joel Davis: Well, that’s absolutely true, but I don’t even think Rukshan and Avi even say edgy stuff on feminism. Like, maybe they’ll say stuff like, there’s only two genders, but they’re the kinds of people that would criticise Islam for being anti-feminist or something and be like, to defend our feminists. They oppose transgenderism and Islam on the basis that, it’s bad for women’s rights or something. Not that I’m endorsing it, Sharia law, obviously, it’s a silly, false dichotomy to set up. But that’s the kind of rhetoric that people like that use.

 

So really, like they’re not even that edgy on that subject. Like, they’re not really edgy on anything at all!

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m sorry to put it simply, they’re boring. Their politics is boring, their commentary is boring, and people just don’t care about what they have to say. They’re not as interesting as far-Right nationalists. They’re not as interesting as National Socialists. They’re not as interesting as the guys who believe in an ethnic basis for the Australian identity. These are the guys that are sort of carrying the banner of the future movement of the Right-wing. People who are sitting in that:

 

“Oh, you can be Australian if you’re Indian. You just need to agree and adhere to a set of shared values.”

 

That’s gay, it’s weak, it’s boring! Australians are sick of hearing that shit! Australians are ready to hear a fundamental ethnic message. And that’s why characters like us are being targeted with political censorship, whereas characters like Rukshan and Avi are still allowed to spread their message because their message is not fundamentally hostile or challenging to the establishment the way ours is.

 

Joel Davis: I mean, that’s all very true. I would say also, where the hell are the White conservative commentators? Like, where’s the new young, White guys that are going to fly the flag of like, civic nationalist cuckservatism? Like, it seems like they can’t even produce them anymore. All the guys they’re producing in this generation are all brown.

 

Like where’s the Andrew Bolts of the new generation or whatever? Like, it seems. And it’s obvious why they can’t produce those. Because any talented young White guys with any kind of dynamism is going to be attracted to nationalism. There’s people like Jordan Knight or Auspil, people who aren’t as radical as us, but you can see that they’re nationalists. That’s what they’re concerned about. They’re not concerned about upholding this, … Really. It’s a dead ideology that’s really only held by Gen-X’s and Boomers. This cuckservative, civic nationalist position., …

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s not just dead, it’s shallow, …

 

Joel Davis: … Who’s into, like, Right-wing political commentary is either going to be into, like actual nationalism or who’s into political commentary in general. They’re either going to be into actual nationalism or they’re going to be Leftists. Like, there’s pretty much no one in that bizarre middle ground.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’ll see if I can get this together. This thought that I was just having. I think it’s because that Neo-conservatism, whatever you call it, that the Indians are going for and the Avi Yemenis of the world, it’s a shallow ideology! It’s a shallow ideology which serves as a means for people who aren’t Australian, they can pretend that they’re Australian. They can kind of pose as Australians and try to trick the Australian community into giving them their money, attention and votes. So they basically can continue to Hoodwink the Australian people into believing they have some sort of representation when they actually don’t.

 

The only people who are going to represent White Australian workers are White Australian workers, not sort of jewish, Israeli Avi Yemenis or Indian Rukshans that are posing as Australians and disguising themselves as the same as us, because shared values.

 

When it comes down to it, we need representations from our own kin. We can’t just keep following brown people who promise to do everything right by us because shared values. That time is gone, it’s dead. Everyone sees through that now. And that’s why, I suppose, there aren’t any young White people going for the conservative Party or movement these days.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, like if you see pictures of like the Young Liberals events and so on, I mean the Young Labor, forget about it. It’s really spot the Aussie there.

 

But even in the Young Liberals events, I mean it’s majority non-White at this point in Melbourne and Sydney. The future of the major parties is brown and yellow. It is not White. There’s no new generation coming through on either side.

 

But if you look at like the Greens, they’re White as fuck actually! They’re like one of the Whitest parties in Parliament. And obviously when we build our Nationalist party, everyone will be White.

 

So that’s what you’re going to see. Like White people are going to polarise to either the far-Left or the far-Right. And the centre is going to be held by the immigrant sludge of mystery meat. And that’s just how it is because as you said correctly, that ideology it’s a disingenuous position held by non-Whites to basically say:

 

“Hey, like be inclusive to my existence and then perpetuate the Australia that I want which is an Australia that exists purely to be an economic system that everyone can benefit from these more fundamental questions of values and identity. The fact that White people are being genocided, we don’t want to deal with these more fundamental questions.”

 

[33:49]

 

Whereas White people are in an existential crisis where it’s either they have White guilt and are suicidal, or actually we’d like to keep having our own country.

 

And so we polarise to those fringes on this existential question which they don’t want White people to be confronting. They want to lull us back to sleep into some like status quo because that’s what benefits them. So it’s easier for them to parasitize off us. They basically they’re benefiting from how things are and they don’t want it to change.

 

And you know, someone like Rukshan, for example, it’s actually great that he keeps taking the bait and responding to often like it isn’t even my provocation, I’m not even on Twitter anymore. But he can’t help himself but keep talking about us. It’s great because he’s showing the fraudulence of his position. Because when he goes and speaks to so-called conservative audiences, he’s like:

 

“I’m such a proud Australian and I love this country and I want to serve this country and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!”

 

But as soon as an actual Australian comes along and says:

 

“Well, hey, actually it’s my ancestors who built this country, not yours and therefore we should run it.”

 

Then all of a sudden he goes into this whole meltdown about how White Australians are lazy Centrelink dole bludgers and we need to bring Indians in to like run the country. Because like White Australians, real Australians are all useless cunts apparently.

 

And it’s like:

 

“Hey, wait a second, I thought you love being Australian. You love this country, it’s your home. So why are you shitting all over the founding stock?”

 

Well, it shows that he’s actually resentful. He knows that he doesn’t belong here. He knows that he’s the odd man out. And as soon as anyone cotton’s onto that bullshit, he has a bit of a meltdown and he shows the truth what lurks beneath this visage that is put up. And it’s the same with all of these browns.

 

You know, at the end of the day I would say all of them actually, because some of them have a bit of a different reaction, I think. I want to play this clip and I want to like analyze it with this kind of funny. So like, obviously we can’t have Tom on the show at the moment because of ridiculous bail conditions that Tom and I are subject to. But I can play a clip from his stream. This isn’t a form of communication.

 

So this is a clip from. Tom did a stream the other day and he talked about the Ralph Babet question. Obviously Senator Babet he’s been in the news a bit lately. He’s been doing some all right stuff and he just put a Bill before the Parliament which will get voted down to have a referendum to add an American style First Amendment to our Constitution to protect our freedom of speech.

 

And obviously I would support that. It won’t pass. We won’t get that referendum, at least not under the current government. But anyway, this is what Tom had to say.

 

Tom Sewell: Senator Babet, Bronze power. Caramel Power. The reason why he’s getting deported last is because he’s actually probably one of the most supportive politicians in the country for us. Everything he advocates for is actually by default, in our defense. He’s going to be deported last. He’s been the last brown to leave the country. We should have a ceremony, a goodbye Babbitt ceremony. We will march down the caramel carpet onto a private jet which is going to say Bronze Power on it, or Caramel Power. We’re going to reward him with an island near Mauritius in the Indian Ocean. We’re going to deport all the caramel honeys to Babet Island. And Babet is going to rule over harem of caramel women. He can’t stay in the country. He is getting deported! But he’s going to get the first class deportation treatment.

 

And I think that that’s fair. All right. I’m a fair guy. I’m a man of my word. So, Babet, if you’re out there, if you’re listening, you are going home. But if you look after us, we’ll look after you. That’s as far as it goes.

 

Joel Davis: Anyway. Obviously you’re kind of funny, like. Right. But I’m disappointed that Senator Babet didn’t respond to that because he definitely saw it.

 

So I would have liked to have [chuckling] hear what he had to say because it’s pretty funny.

 

But the reason why I played that is because actually I went on after the stream we did last week, I went on Australians versus the Agenda and the guy who hosts it, I don’t actually know exactly what his ethnic background is because that was the first time I’ve ever had a conversation with him.

 

But I think he’s Lebanese or half Lebanese or something. And anyway, basically Avi Yemeni and Rukshan Fernando, they’re really upset at him for platforming me. They said:

 

“Oh, like when it’s fine if you’re like Sam Newman and you’re hostile and you, like, attack their ideas, but you just sat there and let Joel just spout his ideology for two and a half hours. And so you’re a piece of shit! You’re enabling Nazis!”

 

Blair Cottrell: Free speech, man! Free speech. I thought these people are about free speech. Apparently not.

 

[38:38]

 

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. There’s a few things to analyze in this, but he’s like:

 

“And you know, if Joel and his guys got in power, they’d deport you too. Don’t you realise that?”

 

And then his response was. His name’s Anthony. His response was:

 

“Oh, but you’re just upset that you’re not going to Caramel Island. You know, I’m going to Caramel Island!”

 

So [chuckling] it was quite funny. And that’s the thing. Like, if there are people who are brown who want to actually work with us to accomplishing our goals, then, yeah, like, we want to have our own country, like, we can be human. We can reward you in some other way. As Tom said in that video, there’s all these caramel honeys. We got to get them out of the country too, because we don’t want the White boys race mixing.

 

So there’s an arrangement. There’s a way we can work this out that everyone’s happy with first class deportations. But Rukshan and Fernando, he’s not getting the first class treatment, right? He’s getting deported first, if he’s lucky, right? See which side you want to play. And the thing is Rukshan will go on and these people go on and say:

 

“Oh, these Nazis, they’re just a fringe movement. They’re no real threat.”

 

Well, if we’re no real threat, why do you keep talking about us? Why do you get so freaked out whenever anyone platforms us? Why do you claim to support free speech but celebrate when we get banned from Twitter? What that indicates is that actually. Oh, and why do you refuse to debate me?

 

The reason why they do all these things is because they’re actually afraid. They’re afraid of the White man in this country waking up and building a political movement that would kick them out, that would take back control of our country. They’re petrified! They must be. Otherwise they wouldn’t see me as a threat. Otherwise they would be quite happy to debate me and to be confident they could beat me. Because they wouldn’t think my ideas are convincing. They wouldn’t think they’d have any appeal, but clearly they do. And that explains their behaviour entirely. So that’s what’s really lurking beneath the surface here.

 

Also, the way the government is treating us. If we were just like a fringe movement that can’t grow, that has no legitimacy or whatever, no one will ever resonate with us, why ban us off X? Why all the media hit pieces? Why try to throw us all in jail?

 

Obviously there’s a fear that if we’re allowed to operate, we will grow and grow and grow and eventually become, eventually contest for political power and become like an actual power faction in this country. And it makes sense because, …

 

Blair Cottrell: If you give nationalists the same rights to speak and organise the same rights everybody else has politically, Australia becomes nationalist in five years.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I agree with that. And we saw that when you originally came onto the scene where there was more free speech back then and your movement grew really rapidly, extremely rapidly. That’s pulling Pauline Hanson out of retirement. They had to engage in all these lawfare tactics to get you guys all tied up in the courts and break up your movement, because they were petrified at its potential.

 

So anyway, that’s just the reality.

 

And the thing is that obviously if White Australians did get organised, there are already like probably millions, at least hundreds of thousands of Australians that have White nationalist sentiments. I would say millions have White nationalist sentiments. Hundreds of thousands have White nationalist views already. And that’s only going to grow. It’s growing rapidly and it’s only going to grow because of the wider circumstances.

 

Like issues that White nationalists care about are the number one or the major issues in Australian politics right now, whether it be jewish tyranny, whether it be mass immigration, whether it be anti-White discrimination, what have you. These are the big issues of our time. Even mainstream politics is kind of oscillating around them. It’s not an environment where nationalism is going to go backwards, even despite all the censorship.

 

And then you can see also like as soon as X gets opened up with a modicum of free speech, who benefits under those conditions? White nationalists and Nazis! All these Leftists are like:

 

“Oh man, this site got turned into a fucking, into 4chan into in the space of a year!”

 

Well, that’s what happens when you unleash freedom online. Anywhere where there’s like freedom of speech online, it becomes a Right-wing space.

 

So obviously our ideas, our culture and so on has gravitas, it has legitimacy, otherwise it wouldn’t keep winning out whenever it’s given a free market to compete in the only way they can keep us from growing is to lock us out of the game.

 

But now even locking us out of the game presents a problem because what it does is it implodes the legitimacy of the people locking us out. Whether it be these conservative commentators who claim to be supporting free speech and against cancel culture and to love Australia and all this nonsense! Well, the way they act towards us implodes that legitimacy. It shows the truth of what they’re doing. They’re just gatekeepers with a racial animus against Whites.

 

And when it comes to the state itself, well, the entire edifice of liberal democracy is being self imploded by the State, which is its fundamental source of legitimacy, in order to lock us out. They said that we’re terrorists. We say:

 

“Hey, we want to build a political party. Hey, we just want to have a peaceful political movement where we’re at to bring our ideas to the people, to the free market of ideas, exercise our liberal democratic rights just like everybody else.”

 

And they go:

 

“No, like we’ve got to shut you down!”

 

It’s like:

 

“Well, I thought you were saying that we were terrorists and we were dangerous. Now we’re trying to play by the rules and you’re preventing us from playing by the rules.”

 

Isn’t that actually what creates terrorism? When people feel so disenfranchised and alienated that they end up doing something stupid because they don’t feel like they have any other anywhere else to turn? Like if a, and hopefully it doesn’t happen, but if some lone wolf, you know, White nationalist neo-Nazi terrorist attack ever happens in this country, it won’t be our fault! It’ll be the fault of the government for making White people feel so alienated by not allowing us to play by the rules so that we can actually give hope to White nationalists in this country that they have a political movement that has any viability.

 

And that’s even what the head of ASIO said the last time did a Senate inquiry about whether we should be listed as a terrorist organisation. Not only did he say that we’re not terrorists, he said that the real threat comes from lone wolf actors who feel demoralised that the movement that actual organisations like ours can’t succeed. And so they end up doing something, you know, “taking matters into their own hands”, quote unquote. Right?

 

[45:18]

 

So that whole narrative doesn’t make any sense that they put forward. And it’s obvious to an increasingly large number of people that it doesn’t make any sense. Like the I do a “jews hate freedom” rally with the boys and they immediately raid my house and arrest me because jews go on television and demand that I’m arrested and then change all the laws that I just said in my speech they would change to try and make it even easier for them to arrest me. And people like me doing those kinds of rallies in the future. It’s like, you just proved my point!

 

Or we go and do our Australia Day rally and they arrest guys singing Waltzing Matilda waving Aussie flags on national television. And then they wonder why all these people want to join us and we’re growing and they have to ban us from Twitter because we got too popular too quickly. And it’s like you guys are just nuking your own legitimacy trying to stop us. You’re actually fueling our rise anyway.

 

So that’s the thing with this Avi Yemeni situation. This spectre of refusing to debate me will keep lingering over his head.

 

And that’s something that everyone needs to take responsibility for. If you’re on X, if you’re anywhere where these pieces of shit are operating, remind them that they’re too fucking pussy to debate me at all times. I want them to be badgered and hounded for months, years, even, if that’s what’s necessary, until they break.

 

And then we’ll get them in a debate scenario, and then I’ll destroy them, and it’ll be fantastic! So.

 

Blair Cottrell: But from what I’ve heard, Joel, from what I’ve heard from them, you’re just not intellectual enough and your ideology just isn’t sophisticated enough for their [chuckling] highly nuanced and superior intellectual conservatism! You just wouldn’t stand up in debate against these superior individuals. They’re clearly smarter than you, and that’s why they shouldn’t be debating. That’s what they think anyway. What do you have to say to that?

 

Joel Davis: Well, that’s an easy W. Like, I knew Drew Pavlou was too dumb to debate me. They didn’t stop me because I was like:

 

“Well, it’s going to be an easy W.”

 

And this went and took the easy W, and I got drunk while I was doing it on the set because I was like:

 

“This guy’s a idiot. Like, all I need to do is sit here and talk. I don’t even have to prepare, and it will just be a total destruction.”

 

So if I’m such an idiot, then. But I’m not an idiot! Everyone knows I’m not an idiot! You say what you want. You might think an arsehole, you might think a lot of things about me, but one thing that no one thinks is that I’m not intelligent. So let’s see. And I’m good at debating.

 

So let’s set up a debate. If I’m so dumb it should be easy for them to win! That’s the thing. This Joel Jammal guy who, I will say the difference between him and the others is that he was a lot more respectful, amicable. He said that he thought it was wrong that we were banned from X and that he hopes that we can get back on and he wished us luck in our legal cases. And like he did say that he didn’t think that we were being treated fairly even though he doesn’t agree with our ideas. So I will say this, he is a class, above these other characters, …

 

Blair Cottrell: He doesn’t appear to be understanding how the system is rigged against nationalism. It’s like you only get censored or experience political censorship if you’re representing ethnic nationalism in Australia. You only get hate speech charges if you’re representing ethnic nationalism in Australia.

 

Have you appealed your X suspension? Have you had a reply yet? Because I put in a couple of appeals and they haven’t even bothered to answer me back with a reason as to why I was actually suspended. Yeah, there you go. They don’t even need a reason to suspend you’re being suspended because of what you believe. You’re an ethnic nationalist and that’s not allowed in modern multicultural Australia. So there have your suspension. That’s the way things go. What are we going to do about it? What can we do about it? That’s just the way things have always gone. The whole system is rigged against us!

 

But as you said, it kind of works to our advantage in the end because it implodes their legitimacy and reveals that they do have to rig the whole system against us in order to maintain the current establishment and way of things.

 

[49:34]

 

Joel Davis: The only other group in this country that faces any kind of, it’s not as much as what we face, but that faces any kind of like pushback from the state, other than us, are the pro-Palestine people.

 

Blair Cottrell: They don’t get that much. Funnily enough, if you ask the pro-Palestine movement:

 

“Who’s in charge of Australia, who’s in charge of America?”

 

They’ll say:

 

“White supremacy or White supremacists.”

 

They don’t like Israel, but they think White supremacy is probably like the core problem and Israel is just benefiting from international White supremacy.

 

But then when you present people like us who are representing White nationalism around the world, Australia, there’s other people like us in America and Europe as well. And you present the kind of situation we’re faced with where we can’t even use social media. A lot of the times our bank accounts get closed, we get knocks at the door from government goons asking us personal questions about our lives. We’re on a fucking watch list! How’s that for White supremacy being in charge of everything? You can’t even actually identify as a proud White person without being put on a fucking watch list! How the hell is White supremacy in charge?

 

Obviously White people are just being used by Israel. It comes down to Israel and jewish money being at the centre of everything, not fucking White supremacy! I hope some pro-Palestinian is watching this.

 

Joel Davis: But insofar as like the pro-Palestine movement gets policed, they pick off the ones that focus in on the jews and they leave., … Like they like to have the communists in charge, the pro-Palestine movement, and even like a lot of jews who claim to be against the state of Israel running the movement, because it keeps the movement directed in that anti-White supremacy framework, and blame White people for the crimes of Israel.

 

But usually it’s like a more of a Muslim rather than one of these communists who then start like actually veering into like more direct:

 

“Nah, it’s the jews!”

 

Those are the ones that get smacked! So the pro-Palestine movement is very carefully controlled to keep it with a certain ideological bent. I’ve noticed this over the years, particularly in recent years.

 

But you know, I’m not in the pro-Palestine movement. Fundamentally I don’t really give a fuck about Palestine, if I’m perfectly honest. I’ve said that on the show many times before.

 

I don’t like Israel because of the impact that Israel has. The parasitical relationship and the tyrannical relationship, the subversive relationship it has with my country and with other White countries. That’s my beef with Israel. The dispute between them and the Palestinians is between them and the Palestinians as far as I’m concerned.

 

But yeah, nevertheless, the point, the reason why I brought that up is because, yeah, as you said, not only is the system anti-White, it’s also obviously pro-jewish. And like, that’s literally our whole narrative. [chuckling] Like, how can you like, the only people that know what’s going on in politics are White nationalists and jews! We’re the only two people in politics that are operating with an actual cogent understanding of what’s happening. Everyone else is ideologically befuddled! And they’re suffering from misdirection and incoherence.

 

But, yeah, you’re about to be talking about Joel Jammal. We went off on a bit of a sidetrack. What Joel Jamal said was he wouldn’t debate me because he doesn’t want to, … It would be really strategically good for me to get access to his audience. And I’ve got a much smaller following.

 

Blair Cottrell: Who is Joel Jammal? I’ve never heard of Joel Jamaml. Who is he?

 

Joel Davis: Exactly! He’s like, I think half Syrian, half Lebanese conservative. He runs a small organisation which is a copy and paste of Turning Point USA, which is a very big organisation in America. Conservative organisation. But he runs, quote, unquote, “Turning Point Australia”.

 

But insofar as it’s an organisation, it appears to basically just be a Facebook group and a mailing list. And he kind of speaks at conservative events. So if that’s an organisation, I guess it’s an organisation. But he runs that he has a small podcast live stream type show that barely gets a thousand views an episode. And he has about 8,000 followers on Twitter. So I mean, he’s got a massive audience, clearly, right? So that would be such a huge boon for me! [sarcasm] But like, no one even knows who he is.

 

The reason why I want to debate him is very simple. It’s the fact that I’m just like desperate for a debate [chuckling] and no one’s debating me, number one. And number two, it’s that he actually made a video or he put out a little video on his Twitter where he said to his credit, as I said:

 

“It’s wrong that were banned from Twitter.”

 

And he said the reason why it was bad is because it’s better to debate White nationalists and try and convince them out of their ideology than to send them to, or send us to like some online ghetto where we’re just going to talk to each other and radicalise ourselves even further without any communication with the rest of society. And no, I agree with that. If our ideas are so retarded, we want to be part of the conversation. Put us, put me in the conversation.

 

Everyone who has a different view. Who’s representative of a different view, let’s debate it, let’s discuss it and let’s work it out. Maybe I am saying something wrong. Let’s see what you have to say. I think I’m saying things clearly. I think I’m going to win all these debates, quite clearly. But let’s put it to the test. I’m willing to put it to the test.

 

So he was saying that and then he played a clip and the clip was from like five years ago and it was like some live stream that David Hiscox was on and Riccardo Bosi was on. Riccardo Bosi* is a lunatic conspiracy theorist. He might even be an agent of some sort, because it’s almost like his conspiracy theorist cult is almost too for me to believe that he’s not a fed of some type.

 

But if he isn’t a fed, he’s a psychopath. Like he’s a literal sociopathic, you know, lunatic that is preying upon schizophrenic idiots to take their money and God knows what else.

 

[* Riccardo Umberto Guerrino Bosi is an Australian conspiracy theorist and former Australian Army Special Forces lieutenant colonel. He is the founder of the AustraliaOne political party. Bosi is known for pushing Covid-19 misinformation and genocide denial. Wikipedia]

 

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But anyway, he played a clip of Riccardo Bosi and David Hiscox and they were debating whether culture comes from race or if culture has nothing to do with race or whatever. And it wasn’t really like a full debate. It was like a clip. It was mostly Riccardo Bosi giving his opinion and Hiscox. It didn’t show Hiscox. I didn’t see the whole video that it was clipped from. I don’t know if he made more elaborate arguments, other parts of that video. But Hiscox was kind of just like asserting his position, but they didn’t really get into him like breaking down all the chains of reasoning. So it wasn’t really like a very good debate. But he took a clip from that and said:

 

“Oh, every time White nationalists ever confront anyone outside their ideology, they get smoked because their ideas are so ridiculous!”

 

And I was thinking, well when I debated Drew Pavlou, the consensus was that I destroyed him. And that was probably the biggest debate in terms of views in like recent Australian political history. Like, there hasn’t been another debate between two Australian citizens. We can’t really call Drew an Australian, can we? But two Australian citizens.

 

Since then it’s got more views. Like, I can’t think of one. Like, if anyone has seen one, like post it in the comments. I can’t think of one. They didn’t want to clip from that. He got some obscure clip from some stream that no one remembers that probably not that many people watched at the time. And I said:

 

“Well, look, if you want to debate White nationalists, if you’re saying that we need to be debated rather than ghettoized, and if you think that our ideas are so ridiculous that every time we get into a debate we lose, why don’t you debate me, Joel? Why don’t you debate me? And let’s see.”

 

But then he had this whole cope excuse why he wouldn’t debate me. So, it’s standard from these people. It’s obviously cowardice. Like he was like worried about me getting access to his audience. What does that imply? That implies that he thinks he’ll lose the debate and I’ll convert members of his audience to my position. Because like I’m not worried about him getting access to my audience. I don’t think I would debate him and Joel Jamal would convert a bunch of like my like White nationalist followers into conservatives or something. Because I have confidence in my position, I have confidence in my abilities. He obviously doesn’t.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, can’t disagree with any of that. I’m angry tonight! I don’t know what’s going on. I’m just angry! I’m not in a mood to talk. Sometimes I just don’t feel like talking and I just, I’m just angry! Like I just want to hurt someone, and that’s the way I’m feeling tonight. So feel free to keep the conversation going, man, and I’ll chime in when I can. But to be honest, I’m just really mad tonight. So sorry if I’m not contributing the way I usually would.

 

Joel Davis: Well, what’s getting you mad?

 

Blair Cottrell: The heat. I hate summer! It seems so bright outside, and being surrounded by Indians doesn’t help. I’m woken up sometimes because there’s some Indians living on my street and there’s like 30 of them in the house coming and going, even at 2 o’clock in the morning, I don’t know what they’re doing. Their children are up at that time as well. It’s like Wednesday night, it’s a school night and there’s like seven, eight year old children running around the streets barefoot, screaming and shit! And I don’t know what kind of standards and ethics these people actually raise families by. It’s fucking weird! But look, there’s various circumstances that are having an effect on me, making me a little displeased.

 

But it’s mostly the heat, man. Do you ever feel like we’re not from this planet? Like we’re too close to the fucking sun or something? I mean, think about it. We’re supposed to have evolved on this planet. Yeah, but every other animal on this planet. I’m going to segue a little bit here. Every other animal on this planet has scales, feathers, thick hide, fur, is equipped to deal with the elements. What have we got? We got this pink soft skin! We can’t even walk outside without protective footwear. We can’t be in the sun longer than a few hours without like getting burned, cooked and cancers! And we’re supposed to have evolved here. It doesn’t make any fucking sense! We have to build these really sophisticated shelters with temperature control just to live on this planet. Like where are we actually from? It says in the Bible “man is in the world, but not of the world”. Are we from this planet? Are we from somewhere else? Because it doesn’t seem like we developed, … And people say:

 

“Oh, it’s because we had technology, Blair. We evolved as a result of our technology and our shelters and stuff like that.”

 

Well, isn’t that like de-evolving so that we’re less equipped to deal with the elements? What kind of sense does that make? And we haven’t had this technology for very long.

 

So I don’t know. Man, I just can’t wait for winter. I can’t wait for the cold, the ice. I can’t wait to get a good night’s sleep in some reasonable fucking temperature. I’m sick of the heat. I don’t like it here. I don’t like it here in summer. I got to be honest, I’m too hot right now, and it’s difficult.

 

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Joel Davis: I mean, we’re obviously not native to Australia, are we? So it’s obviously too hot. Like we belong in northern Europe.

 

Blair Cottrell: We’re the native Australians because we created the continent, or not the continent, but we created the nation state, Australia.

 

Before we got here, the British, there was no Australia. There was just this unmapped land mass with some semi-nomadic tribes raping their own children and eating each other.

 

Joel Davis: We’re supposed to be in northern Europe. Like that’s what we’re., …

 

Blair Cottrell: I want to be in the snow, man. I just want to go back to the snow. I want to go somewhere where it’s too cold for Indians to follow so I can get a good night’s sleep and not listen to screaming Indian children at 2 o’clock in the morning. I mean, sometimes I’m laying there and I’m thinking I’m almost at my wit’s end and I’m worried. I’m scared because I’m thinking, what am I going to do if I snap? What am I going to do? Am I going to kick that door in over there? I don’t even know what I’m going to do. And I get worried like that. I worry myself.

 

So I’ve got to like just try to trap myself in the house and block out all the noise. And I don’t know, does anybody else experience this when they’re surrounded by these people? I’m unlucky too, because the area where I live there’s not many immigrants. But unfortunately on the street I’m living on, there happens to be immigrants like all around. And I don’t know, man, I could just rant and carry on about this, but it’s not going to change, is it? It’s only going to get worse.

 

But there’s this two tier system, two tiers of existence. I was thinking about this today. For the average White Australian. The lower tier is you don’t say anything about the situation. You’re White. This only applies to White people, right? You’re White, you don’t say anything about the situation in your country and you get to live in some semblance of this liberal, democratic freedom. So long as you don’t say anything about the immigration. And so long as you don’t acknowledge that you’re White or that that might not might be significant somehow. If you don’t say anything about that, you get some semblance of freedom. You get left alone. You have to deal with all the immigrants and the traffic and you know, getting pushed out of your own job and having to find a different job because your employer is going to employ cheap foreign labour instead of you deal with all that, but you at least get left alone. You get your [word unclear], you get your freedom of speech, as long as you don’t say anything about the immigration, so long as you don’t acknowledge that you’re White.

 

But if you do start opposing the immigration, and especially if you start acknowledging your ethnic identity as a White person, you cross over into this second tier of existence where you experience full communism! Where suddenly you’re on a watch list! Suddenly you can’t have a bank account, not for long. Suddenly you’re in court for hate speech and your government goons knocking on your door asking you questions about your personal life.

 

And that’s the two tier system in Australia right now. The two tiers of existence. And I suppose most people live in that lower tier of existence where they just don’t say anything because it’s easier not to say anything. And it pisses me off, man! It angers me that people do that! The people go through life not acknowledging the obvious decay decline of their society!

 

But average people, I can’t be too angry about it because average people aren’t really geared to deal with stuff like this. Okay, I’ve lost connection now.

 

Joel Davis: No, I can still hear you. We just lost the visual.

 

Blair Cottrell: I just said my browser’s lost connection or something. Maybe it’s a sign I should shut up! I don’t know. Sometimes it just all gets to a point for me, man, where I’m just really angry at the situation.

 

Like before when I was trying to explain that the formation of Nazi groups and young guys joining Nazi groups is obviously a natural, organic response to an education system employing activists that demonise White people, where White people, young White guys don’t feel any connection to a national community. They don’t feel any sort of ethnic support. They don’t have any ethnic support groups to go to.

 

So obviously they can choose to stay in a system that’s telling them that they need to pay. Their existence is just as a tax mule to pay for the atrocities committed by their ancestors! Or the alternative is they can go into a community that’s saying:

 

“Hey, you’ve actually got a lot to be proud of! You’ve got a great history, you’re a member of a great race! We’ll tell you about it. Come on!”

 

Obviously they’re going to join a group that’s telling them that. They’re not going to stay in a system that’s demonizing them.

 

So it’s like, how do these government goons think that that’s not going to happen? How do they sort of logically try to understand the formation of Nazi groups without understanding that they’re responsible for creating them?

 

Like, if the government was going to allow or make permissible even the slightest amount of White Identity Politics, then Nazi groups wouldn’t exist. But no, they can’t acknowledge any kind of positive White Identity. They can’t do it because White people are the devils of society, the designated devils. And that’s the way it’s going to stay. And so Nazi groups will keep growing. It’s that simple, isn’t it?

 

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Joel Davis: I mean, well, that’s like people say to me:

 

“Oh, Joel, why do you have to do the Nazi thing?”

 

And I’m like:

 

“Well, my race is being genocided and my country is being stolen from me.”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Yeah, yeah, I know, but like, why can’t you just be an immigration restrictionist?”

 

And it’s like:

 

“Well, obviously that isn’t gonna fucking work, is it? You know, the reason why we’re Nazis is because they’re trying to fucking kill us!”

 

Extreme problems require extreme solutions. Like, if we’re going to have a defense, the best form of defense is the most extreme form of defense. Like from an ideological standpoint, like the pure position. Yeah, some people will water it down, but the absolute maximum that we can do in defense of our race is what is necessary right now. I probably wouldn’t have become a Nazi if my race wasn’t being genocided. It wouldn’t have felt necessary.

 

I mean, the Germans only became Nazis because the jews were stealing their country from them and raping their country. Like, Nazism is what happens to White people when you push them too fucking far!

 

So, yeah, and maybe that’s wrong! Maybe realistically I should have become a Nazi anyway without this pressure.

 

But that is what it is.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s like this is the inevitable result.

 

Joel Davis: Now if they start allowing White Identity Politics, … Now they pushed us too hard. So when, if they try to do some pressure release valve and allow kind of optical White nationalism back into play, it’s going to unleash a cascade.

 

And they know that’s why they’re holding it back and it wouldn’t have been if they allowed it 20 years ago, like when Pauline Hanson and One Nation were running, if they allowed them to do their thing and to shut down the borders and to take over the Right-wing and to keep Australia I don’t know, 90 percent White or something, then everyone would have gone back to watching the cricket and everything would have just kept cruising along. Australia would have continued on as it was, with stability.

 

But they pushed us too far now, and they’ve made the problem too difficult. Like, it isn’t just about shutting the borders now. There’s too many fucking people here! They have to be sent back in their millions to be able to get our country back. Well, who has the stomach to do that? Who has the determination to seize control of the state and forcibly expel millions of people from our land? Only we do! That’s why we are what we are.

 

So, yeah, we’re the natural kind of reaction and the natural solution to the problem. Like, we didn’t start this. No, we didn’t shoot the first shot across the bow or whatever, you know.

 

But yeah, the government as well, like the fear that they have, it’s indicative of the fact that they know that our potential is massive! Because at the end of the day, like they’re stealing our country from us! Like they’re all traitors, they’re all corrupt, they’re complicit in a globalist agenda to genocide our race and to steal all of our wealth.

 

So they know, like and the same with the jews. There’s a reason why the jews are so paranoid. There’s a reason why the jews always seem to be overreacting, why they’re always so hysterical! Because they know what they’re doing! They know that if the White man ever gets organised, they’re fucked! And the party’s over and justice is going to come. They act guilty, they show their guilt through their behaviour.

 

So I mean, just the other day, … I won’t actually mention that story. Actually I decided against it for legal reasons.

 

But you know, so many times there’ll be situations like when I’ve been fired from jobs or asked to leave certain associations because of who I am or when I’ve heard stories from others in the organisation, public facing figures, like hearing the stories from like Tim Lutz for example, and what happened to him after he got doxed. How he was basically kicked out of the entire boxing community and his kid was even like kicked out of like karate competitions even though he’s like an 11 year old kid because his dad’s a Nazi and things like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, man, the sort of circumstances, you have to endure.

 

Joel Davis: Always the same thing when you get kicked out, never do they go:

 

“We don’t like what you believe and that’s why we’re kicking you out.”

 

Or something. What they always say is:

 

“We’re really sorry but this is going to cause a lot of problems for us and we don’t want to have to do this to you. But if we kept you on, this could happen. That could happen and we don’t want to get in trouble.”

 

And that’s kind of how the whole thing is kept together. Like it isn’t that everyone are true believers in the ideology of the regime. It isn’t that everybody just like hates what we stand for and hates our race. The majority of White people know that something’s pretty fucked up, they’re just too weak. It’s not that they’re all, … I think it’s only maybe 20% of Whites that are actually mentally fucked into like full on racial self hatred.

 

The vast majority of Whites are just scared. They’re just scared of the ramifications of embracing our position. They’re scared of the status quo crumbling and polarisation and conflict. And so they’re just trying to hold on to the security of their lives.

 

But this system is destroying and eroding that security year by year. It’s destroying the economy, it’s destroying the security of our streets. It’s rapidly replacing us, reducing us to a minority, discriminating against us at every level.

 

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And so there’s like points at which it no longer makes any sense to keep trying to hold on to that semblance of middle class existence or that semblance of your personal advantage, because it’s all being ripped away from you anyway. And when we get to that point there’s going to be a mass exodus from, basically status quo, head down status to embracing a radical nationalist position. And the system knows that and it’s kind of preparing and it’s trying to hold us back as much as it can because it’s trying to ram through our replacement as quickly as possible.

 

Because if it can reduce us to a small enough minority before you react, maybe it can beat us when we do finally react. But if we’re still 50% of the population and we get organised and we fight back, they’re done! Even if we’re 40%, they’re done. We’ll still win!

 

But they have to really whittle us down before we react. They have to basically outnumber us by a very large extent. And they know that, at the top level. These are like middle management people don’t really think like that, it’s more subconscious. But at the top level I think they understand that.

 

That would explain why like when I went with the boys, like there was only like 10 of us to Independence Day at the shrine for the Independence Day ceremony. Sorry, not Independence Day, Remembrance Day, for the Remembrance Day ceremony at the War memorial shrine on the 11th of November. There’s 11 of us there. We were completely silent. We’re just standing there listening to the speeches and the songs and watching the marches and then we were surrounded by police, filmed by the media, they put out:

 

“Nazis were at the Remembrance Day!”

 

And it was like a national security incident that 11 of us went to a public event. And it’s like, why are they so afraid of us? Like we put 20 guys, we go to the steps of Parliament with, 20 guys and we do a speech. Gotta raid my house! We’ve gotta like:

 

“We’ve got to change all these laws!”

 

It’s this like huge deal. Why? Like, why are you so afraid? The only reason they could plausibly be afraid is because they know that we’re representing potentially a mass movement that could arise at some point in the future.

 

Blair Cottrell: Isn’t it scarier to live in silence and fear for the sake of some wage slave job, than it is to experience some sort of, as they call it, “consequence”, which is really just being freed from that slavery, just for speaking the truth! To me, it’s scarier to stay silent for the sake of a job. That’s a scarier way to live to me. I’d rather die than live that, man! Fuck that! How do people choose that lifestyle?:

 

“Well, I can’t say what I really think or I might lose my job!”

 

Who gives a fuck if you lose your job? I mean:

 

“Oh my God, I got my mortgage and my bills to pay!”

 

You’ll figure it out. You’ll get another job. You always figure it out.

 

And if you go to jail, who cares, man? You go to jail for hate speech. You know, jail is a holiday, yeah? You get your own bed, your own shower, your own writing desk, your own sink to brush your teeth in. It’s not like you watch on TV and you’re in a shower with like 50 other guys and someone’s going to stab you in the shower or something like that doesn’t happen in Australia. Jail’s a fucking holiday! I miss jail!

 

There’s very little deterrence for me to stop speaking because if I go to jail for something I say, like, I’m going to relax in there, it’s going to be a holiday. I’ll get so much reading done, all I’ll do is read, keep practicing guitar and exercise and I’ll come out so clear headed.

 

God, man, I came out so clear minded the first time I went to jail. I didn’t watch TV for like seven months. I unplugged my TV and refused to watch it. And you know what’s interesting? When I got out after seven months of not watching TV or not looking at any screens, I tried looking at a screen again. My friend was playing like a Nintendo 64. Went to visit my friend. I was watching Mario Karts. I couldn’t watch it for longer than two minutes because my eyes were burning. My eyes were that pained by looking at that screen because I hadn’t seen a screen in seven months. It makes you wonder how much damage to our eyes the daily exposure to screens does. Like, I feel like my eyes are getting more fucked up by the day, especially looking to these fucking studio lights. Yeah.

 

The point is that you’ve got nothing to fear, really. What are they going to take from you? You’re like, wage slavery situation, who cares? I mean, I suppose the only really worrying thing is if you have a family.

 

Look, I don’t want to get into this actually, because it doesn’t actually matter what I say to the average punter. They’re not going to suddenly become a ballsy public speaker because the average person isn’t psychologically geared to do that.

 

So there’s no real point in me criticising people for trying to play it safe, because the masses have always tried to play it safe. That’s kind of what they’re genetically geared to do, more so now than ever, probably. But throughout history, for the last. 2,000 years, that’s what they’ve done. And so obviously, we need to adjust our message, our programme to the receptivity of the masses, which is feminine by nature.

 

So I’m not going to stand here and give some instructional speech about how to be more like me, because it’s never going to happen. Right? You’re never going to see more people like me. We’re a dying breed. But I gotta say that from my point of view, it’s much scarier to obey, much scarier to lose the essence of who I am for the sake of a wage, for the sake of not getting in trouble. Like, that’s much more frightening.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah. I mean, obviously organising in nationalism comes with certain risks. Like many people have been fired from their jobs and so on. But like you said:

 

“You can get a new job.”

 

But I don’t want to play that down. I mean, that’s obviously, particularly if you built up in a certain industry and you’re specialised in a career path and that gets ripped away from you, that can be quite devastating!

 

And yeah I’m not afraid of going to jail if I have to because of the tyranny that I live under for simply trying to exercise my political activities. I don’t want to go to jail. I want my freedom! But if that has to happen, because, you know that’s the penalty for doing political activism, so be it. I’m not going to stop doing my political activism because of that. Particularly the kind of jail sentences that we’re looking at potentially are going to be quite short, like a matter of months, not years. Going to jail for like five years or seven years or something, like what some of the British dissidents are doing though, that’s horrible!

 

I mean, that’s really like ruining your life or not ruining your life, but it’s really like taking away a very substantial portion of your life. And particularly if you got kids or something, like, that’s disastrous.

 

So I’m not like enthused about that by any means, but at the same time if that’s the sacrifices that we have to make, we have to make it. Like, what’s the alternative? We just have our country stolen from us and we just don’t stand up and resist? That’s just unconscionable!

 

So it’s like, yeah, like sacrifices need to be made. But every nation is forged on the basis of sacrificial love. Like when we say that we are a nation of blood, I don’t just mean like ancestry by blood, it means that. But it also means the blood of sacrifice of the men who actually fought to defend our nation in various wars. And that’s true for every nation. There are no nations on this planet that weren’t forged in blood of both sacrifice and ancestry.

 

And like I mentioned the shrine in Melbourne, which is an incredible building, and I was there the other day, and the four pillars of the shrine, or at the four pillars of the shrine, which is basically, by the way, for those who don’t know, in Melbourne we have a War Memorial shrine which looks like a Greco-Roman temple. Literally looks like a Greco-Roman temple. It is literally a temple to the ancestors. And there’s four pillars with statues on them. And they have like certain characteristics that embody certain themes.

 

And one of them is a kind of goddess, kind of looking woman sitting on a throne holding a crown of thorns. Because sacrifice is like one of the four pillars that holds up a nation. That’s the idea.

 

I can’t remember what all the other three were off the top of my head right now, but I remember staring at that and taking that in. Because the temple has a lot of pagan, you would say, like, characteristics. There’s some Christian things too.

 

And obviously that notion of sacrificial love is very foundational to Christianity because it’s embodied in Christ. And that’s what that crown of thorns is obviously signifying, right.

 

And it reminded me of a paper by Gotlib Freger, who was a analytical philosopher from Germany. I think he died in the 1920s. But he was an incredible philosopher. Like he was probably the greatest logician or the most advanced. Like he created the most advances in logic since Aristotle.

 

And all of modern formal logic kind of spins out of Frege’s work as well as the whole analytical School of philosophy. And Frege, he was a German, and so most of his work is about logic and [word unclear].

 

But then he had a paper that was kind of obscure, that he wrote on theology, but it was on political theology. And he was writing this in the early 1920s. And basically he was advocating for National Socialism or Volkish Socialism, as you know, you would say in German. And what he was saying was that in the Weimar Republic you have like these two political positions, liberalism and socialism, which correspond to what Americans would say, conservative and liberal, I guess. Conservative really being liberal and what Americans call liberal really being like socialist.

 

But what he was saying was that where like socialism is a kind of narcissism and self interest of a class and I guess like contemporary Leftism, it’s the self interest of particular protected groups rather than the working class. It’s like blacks and Aboriginals and whatever, right? Women, gays. And liberalism or conservatism is about the kind of self interest of the individual. These are both basically nihilistic, materialistic, narcissistic worldviews that are purely self referential in terms of direct pleasures and the utilitarianism of your individuality or of your particular group.

 

Whereas what he said is necessary to actually build strength in a nation, is a higher ideal, a notion of God. A notion of a higher morality. And that Germans being as they are Christians, should look to the example of Christ. And in Christ you see what is the ultimate moral message, whether you’re a Christian or not, is that there is no greater love than laying one’s down one’s life for one’s friends.

 

And when you go into the temple, the shrine in Melbourne, there is the tomb of the Unknown Soldier in the middle of the temple. And it’s the sun, the light kind of shines in through the roof! It’s really quite beautiful. And there’s representations of military battles and stuff all over the walls and like beautiful tiling. And in the centre is the tomb of the Unknown Soldier. And it says something akin to like:

 

“No man hath love greater than this.”

 

Meaning, like, no man have love greater than laying down one’s life for one’s people.

 

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And it’s very profound! Really moving whenever I’m in there. And I recommend if you haven’t been there and you’re ever in Melbourne or you from Melbourne in particular, go and see it. It’s an incredible thing! It was actually funded by the returned soldiers from World War I. It wasn’t actually even funded by the government. They got together and funded it and they built it. I think it was completed in the early 1930s. And it’s an incredible thing! Back when we were a real people and we still knew who we were, that’s the kind of thing that we built.

 

And if you look at the opening day, there’s like 300,000 people there for the first memorial service held at the shrine. And in those days the population of Melbourne couldn’t have been more than half a million people, maybe a million people, max. So 300,000 people showing up is like, almost everyone in Melbourne showing up for something. So it’s pretty incredible to think about.

 

But anyway, I got side-tracked.

 

But the point that I was making was that, yeah, like, sacrifice is really the foundation of the nation, and is really like, the highest form of love. And unless we can start to cultivate a spirit of being willing to embrace sacrifice, like, if nationalism just has to be easy, like, it’s just about ticking a box in a voting booth and watching a particular live stream or something, but you don’t ever have to actually give anything up, well, then we deserve to lose, because that’s fucking weak!

 

Like, we actually need thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of men willing to actually sacrifice shit! Not necessarily die, but like, sacrifice shit for saving our nation. And every nation ever that has ever been under threat has required this to survive.

 

And that’s probably the greatest fear that I have, that, like, we’ve become such pussies that we’ve lost touch with ourselves and with our sense of honour to such an extent that maybe there isn’t a hundred thousand Australians that are willing to actually sacrifice for our future? But I like to believe that there is, and there’s only going to be if we believe that there is and put our will into manifesting that as a reality!

 

Blair Cottrell: Very well said. This has been one of those streams where I’m like, what did I even say? [chuckling] Like, I was just so pissed off from the beginning that I don’t even know what I was talking about. So forgive me if I haven’t made as much sense as I usually do. But I’ve got to go eat.

 

Joel Davis: You made plenty of sense to me.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, but we’re part of the hive mind, right? I’m only paraphrasing stuff that you already think anyway. But I need to go eat, so I’m done. Have we got some Superchats? Do you want to quickly wrap that up? What do you want to do? I’m hungry.

 

Joel Davis: Yes, there’s probably some Superchats. And I should mention as well, I think I’m supposed to record, I did a few podcasts this week. Like I went on Elijah Schaffer’s most recent show. You can see that on the Slightly Offensive Rumble channel, among other places. He had me on the second half of the show. It was pretty good. Also went on Lucas Gage’s stream. So you can go check those out. If you haven’t seen them, you can find Lucas Gage on Rumble as well.

 

And I’m supposed to record with Jake Shields next week. I don’t know when that will be released. But so that should be interesting. I’ve never done a podcast with Jake Shields before, but it should be pretty cool! So a few things in the works. I don’t know if you have anything coming up or, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Nah, man. I’ve been chasing clients and money around for the last week because I’ve been a bit behind in that stuff, but there’s some stuff I won’t even mention it. I won’t even mention it live on stream.

 

But yeah, if you keep an eye on my Telegram channel, I’ll keep you guys up to date with what’s happening from my end.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I know you’re working on a few projects at the moment, behind the scenes. But yeah, we don’t have to talk about it till they’re ready to go.

 

Anyway, let’s get into Superchat. So Sig Kyle said:

 

“Keep fighting the good fight. A little bit of cash to go towards the Avi Yemini deportation steamboat.”

 

That’s [chuckling] pretty funny! Fellow Comrade said:

 

“Bhutanese came into work the other day and his wide alien like face made my flight or fight response get activated automatically. You’re not alone, Blair.”

 

So, Fellow Comrade’s vibing. He’s vibing the sentiment.

 

What else have we got here? The Gump, he said:

 

“You are setting the direction for our resistance all around the world. White power!”

 

Well, I mean, that’s a pretty hefty compliment, but I appreciate it. Racist Aristocrats said:

 

“The absolute state of Sam Newman video that Blair made was absolutely fantastic! I can see it being viewed by future Aryan generations as a concise historical window into the fallen Boomers and the resulting time of rebirth. Hope Sam watches and reflects.”

 

Well, yeah, Blair’s been knocking out the park with those short videos lately. [words unclear]

 

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Blair Cottrell: Pardon?

 

Joel Davis: The way that you do your videos, it reminds me of like old school YouTube. When like those short videos on YouTube were very popular, people still kind of went out, …

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s kind of what I learnt from. That was my era. So I suppose, …

 

But yeah, that was just the opportunity, as I said, it was an opportunity to summarize and demonstrate what’s kind of going on behind the curtain of media because it’s kind of come out in full view for everybody to witness. I couldn’t really pass up the opportunity. I felt bad for Sam Newman and I didn’t want to throw any more dirt on him. So I tried not to throw dirt on him, but it was hard not to be because I had to expose the whole situation for what it was, which was a complete farce!

 

But yeah, like I enjoy working on those videos. I seem to get like over stimulated and hyper focused on them when I’m working on them. A fair bit of work goes into those videos even though they seem slapped together. You know, you got to write out kind of a rough script of what you’re going to say, then you’ve got to find the content to provide some sort of basis for what you’re saying so you can show people what you’re referring to while you’re talking about it.

 

Then you’ve got to dictate the video, you’ve got to speak to the camera and then you have to like edit all that together, which takes hours. So I’m glad those videos are appreciated because they do tend to be a bit labourious.

 

But yeah, that’s what I enjoy doing.

 

Joel Davis: And it’s what get reposted a lot. Like people are reposting them on Twitter, they’re getting big views, people are reposting them on YouTube, getting big views on YouTube as well. So thanks to everyone who’s doing the re-uploading because obviously Blair and myself are pretty much banned from every social media site except Rumble and Telegram at this point.

 

So yeah, but like the re-uploads hundreds of thousands of views on some of those videos you put out lately, each. So great, great reach for someone who’s still banned.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. And that’s kind of alludes to the strategy we need to develop or have somewhat already developed as to how to get around that censorship on a community level. Because we have a lot of people we network with in the community and certain characters with pretty big accounts or accounts that are capable of reaching what was our audience or part of our audience.

 

So there’s always ways around censorship. There’s ways around all of the quote, unquote, “consequences” and the what we have to experience under this rigged system. So there’s still hope. There’s always hope.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Well, also people who clip the show, I appreciate everything that you do. Please keep doing your work. There’s some guys on TikTok that clip the show and get really good views I’ve seen. And there might be others. I just haven’t even seen them because I don’t actually have a TikTok account or even have the app downloaded because I find it insufferable to scroll through. But sometimes people send me:

 

“Oh, hey, I saw this on TikTok. It’s someone’s uploaded a clip from one of your streams or whatever.”

 

So I appreciate people doing that on Instagram as well. I get sent stuff sometimes, I see stuff on X.

 

So yeah, what we’re going to start doing in the future though is probably professionalizing. And it was a great strategy that was employed by people like Nick Fuentes, Andrew Tate, when they were basically banned from everything where clips of their content was getting spread around very effectively by their fan base. And we need to replicate that, because the issue was not the content. Like I remember when Blair made a TikTok early 2023, sometime around there, when we, not long after we started doing the show. And you made like four videos just on your phone, like they weren’t even edited, they were just like you with a webcam, just giving your thoughts on something for a minute or two. And you got like 2 million views in a week and they banned your TikTok! So like, it’s not like we, …

 

Blair Cottrell: What we’re dealing with is. The reality that we’re faced with is we would be among the most popular and most viewed political commentators in the country were it not for this censorship. So instead we just sit in these little corners and do these little streams or make our little videos and hope that people share them. But if we got the same treatment, if we were treated fairly the way everybody else is, the way everybody who’s not White is, then yeah, we would be significantly more influential than we currently are. But I suppose that’s the point in rigging the system against us. Right? To make sure we can’t acquire the sort of influence that we would otherwise organically have.

 

[1:34:00]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but we still have organically, a lot of influence, and we will continue to do so. And what’s happened to us in terms of censorship is just a roadblock. But these roadblocks have been thrown up in front of us before, and we keep adapting. And working ways around them. It’s a skill issue. And we have the skills to adapt. And we will. And we already are to some extent, but we will this year. This year is going to be a year of adaptation.

 

And that’s what kind of happens in politics. Every time in politics or in dissident or oppositional politics, whenever you start having some success, you get punished because basically the enemy starts prioritizing, sabotaging you much higher than it previously did. And so successful, oppositional or revolutionary or dissident politics, whatever, however you want to describe it, requires having the ability to be adaptive. And we’ve been adaptive before, and we’re going to be adaptive again, and we’re going to continue this momentum.

 

But that’s not too many Superchats tonight. So that’s basically. Oh, no, wait, we got one here from the Alabama Hammer saying:

 

“Greetings from California lads. White power! So much of the early White nationalists in the US circa 2015-2016, found their beginnings in Southern California. Love the fitness and training you promote, Blair.”

 

Well, just bigging up California for some reason. But, yeah, there was one more, too, from Tmax. You want to read it?

 

Blair Cottrell: Sends 50 bucks. He says:

 

“Hitler is the father of the Great Awakening. To those who are asleep, cowardness will [not] save you.”

 

What? Can you make sense of that?

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know why he wrote “cowardness.” It’s cowardice. But thanks for the Superchat, Tmax.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, thanks for the 50 bucks, bro. But I’m gonna go eat dinner, man. I’m gonna go eat dinner. I’m hungry. Thanks, everyone, for tuning in. Sorry I was in a bad mood, but, hey, hope I was entertaining.

 

Joel Davis: No need to apologise, I think everyone likes the Blair rants. I do anyway.

 

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@Clyde
13 hours ago
clip and share Joel’s stuff – Joel is getting so much flack because he’s on target – roadblock to W

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@Alison-Chains
4 hours ago
he’s over the target.

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
you are both good

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@The_Eagle_Has_Landed
13 hours ago
84 people currently watching, only 23 likes. Hit the like button you tight cunts.

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DIEVAL
13 hours ago
their only safety is keeping society functioning, if society breaks down and comfort levels drop, they will be fucked.

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ChainReaction
13 hours ago
pretty sure that’s what he meant

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ChainReaction
13 hours ago
*cowardice will NOT save you

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Brittany Venti Enjoyer
5 hours ago
Piss off back to nnr faggot

@SammichLubber
13 hours ago

@TheThinRedLine
We can come up with some bs ngo.

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@SammichLubber
13 hours ago
Get yourselves some USAID funding.

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Cone of Silence
13 hours ago
I’ve said it before, but you have to gain the support of the wife’s and girlfriends, they won’t have a nazi man and they must be convinced,

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DIEVAL
13 hours ago
manpower is a must to be able make moves without being persecuted.

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ChainReaction
14 hours ago
try listening to Blairs point

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Dawn Browning
13 hours ago
JoelBlairLove Love to all you Beautifuls MWAH

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Matt Hammond
13 hours ago
Yeah, the Blair rant was funny…because I can sympathise

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago

@ChainReaction
true

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Dawn Browning
13 hours ago
It’s as Collett described, certain groups can act as individuals, it’s when they collectivise that there’s an issue

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
o/

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@MichiganMan
13 hours ago
Bye

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago

@SammichLubber
it might actually work

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago

@SammichLubber
good idea

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago

@ChainReaction
lol

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DIEVAL
13 hours ago
that will never happen naturally.

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DIEVAL
13 hours ago

@The_Eagle_Has_Landed
probably.

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
deeds beget deeds : the Havamal . speech of the high one (Odin )

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Dawn Browning
13 hours ago
Specialise in what interests you the most. As both hosts clearly have.

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
duty and sacrifice

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Cone of Silence
13 hours ago
Branding, psychology and marketing are not there for nothing, just look at any successful organisation. Your brand is literally a jewish construct.

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
Not a dying breed but as small percentage of every generation

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DIEVAL
13 hours ago

@The_Eagle_Has_Landed
i followed them at the time, although i was young i could already see how the country was being transformed. Both my grandparents were in the NSDAP.

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Cone of Silence
13 hours ago
everyone involved in this demise is rubbing their hands because they have a target that’s justifying their power

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@The_Eagle_Has_Landed
13 hours ago

@DIEVAL
The actual founders of One Nation were OG Australian Nat Socs, Peter was even the leader of the Australian Ku Klux Klan.

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
If we reach 25 % we win

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Matt Hammond
13 hours ago
I sympathise with the anger. It’s a very tough path. I can hardly imagine what it must be like on the front line. A huge burden to shoulder

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@Ir0nW1LL
13 hours ago
Question their grip on the ‘narritive’ you are all “far right” anyway, so there’s no winning…according to them!

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@Ir0nW1LL
13 hours ago
It’s hard not to be angry all the time

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@Ir0nW1LL
13 hours ago
Charity boxing match with Avi, will remedy that Blair!

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@Ir0nW1LL
13 hours ago
They all know what the truth is, but refuse to admit to it, for that will destroy their end goals!

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ChainReaction
13 hours ago
“The only people who know what’s going on are jews and antisemites.”

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
Joel is right here, it is happening right now on the judge Napolitano channel

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DIEVAL
13 hours ago
only true way for that fact to become reality is to get mass audience. Capture the Signal….!

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DIEVAL
13 hours ago
those faggots couldn’t debate any of us, only need 2 brain cells rubbing together to beat those shitskin muppets.

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DIEVAL
14 hours ago
we’re terrorist in our own countries whether we like it or not. Whether we’re affiliated with any “movement” or not. Solution!? Capture the signal.

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@Ir0nW1LL
14 hours ago
This is how they create ‘false flags’

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DIEVAL
14 hours ago
i have a video of Jews sniping our soldiers in Iraq just to destabilize and create chaos!

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danzimmons
11 hours ago
Can you post it or have you already, i tell people about that all the time because it’s been suppressed so gud, id like to see it Thx

DIEVAL
14 hours ago
we have a mountains of evidence to line up the Jews into a volcano of justice 6 million times over.

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DIEVAL
14 hours ago
Blair and Sowell on the Sam show were quite tame considering how demonic these kikes are.

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Carnegie
14 hours ago
Excellent edit

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ThinRedLine
14 hours ago
Thomas Sewell o/

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DIEVAL
14 hours ago
we can’t even make it on the chessboard, let alone move any pieces around to even play the game. Guys like Avi Yemeni are nothing more than organised gatekeepers! There are solutions but none of them are political! o/

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@Vidkun
14 hours ago
They are called the Kosher right. Controlled opposition.

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@ItWasMadeUp
14 hours ago
The ‘signal boosting’ thing is true but also an excuse not to engage with us. If they thought they would win, they would use the larger platform to publically defeat you, but they know they would lose.

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ThinRedLine
13 hours ago

@SammichLubber
Morning

@SammichLubber
13 hours ago
Morning folks.

@The_Eagle_Has_Landed
13 hours ago

@DIEVAL
Most probably a child rapist also.

DIEVAL
13 hours ago
Avi the child sniper! pft!

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
please deport Avi

DIEVAL
13 hours ago
one day we may be able to open up a mainstream slot for you guys! haha! o/

DIEVAL
13 hours ago

@The_Eagle_Has_Landed
yes i do, it was a huge eye opener for me. Many questions were sought in the aftermath.

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
sounds like a great place

@The_Eagle_Has_Landed
13 hours ago

@DIEVAL
As was I. Do you remember when the jews doxxed every single member? They published all their names and addresses in the major papers. Literally thousands upon thousands of names and address over several pages.

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
to paganism as well

@Anna1913
14 hours ago
sure not hard to guess the most protected are the predator

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@Anna1913
14 hours ago
jews frame the white as the predator so white dont need protection their excuse

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Carnegie
14 hours ago
Ai would rather murder 6million white babies than harm one hair on a jews head.

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@Ir0nW1LL
14 hours ago
They lead the way in creating ‘false flags’ then claim top victim

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ThinRedLine
14 hours ago
Judaism is organized crime

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eternal extrapolations
6 hours ago
31:10
“Because Shared Values!”
Yes, I think we’re done with these supposed “shared values” now.

JamesL
7 hours ago
Washing the car whilst listening to your discussion on catchup! Our people have become so deracinated; as you say

@joeldavis
our forebears have had to step up and defend our people – the Memorial in Melbourne is def something I will visit when next over. I met you at the PA conf in England in 2023 and

@BlairCottrell
recently in 2024 – your appearance on Sam Newman’s show with Thomas was epic

Keep up the good work over there.

danzimmons
10 hours ago
Caramel honey’s lol

ChainReaction
13 hours ago
Less

ChainReaction
13 hours ago
Less

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
based

@Helmet
13 hours ago
It could be worse. You could be cypriot.

Cone of Silence
13 hours ago
The Australian day March demonstrated this, there was the no rimes and there was you. They can’t get their heads around it. If you looked like them and moved with them, the media would have condemned the whole crowd and they wouldn’t do that.

Cone of Silence
13 hours ago
Decades of Americans have fallen out of popularity because they went the nazi optics. The governments literally burnt them alive and there was no backlash. your competing with decades of nazi propaganda and trigger words. We don’t have the time that has taken them to indoctrinate the masses.

DIEVAL
13 hours ago
Pauline has a Jew in her party. Her jail time was about selling out and becoming an insider.

DIEVAL
13 hours ago
^^^ Yeah now…..

@The_Eagle_Has_Landed
13 hours ago
Pauline is a piece of shit. The original founders of the one nation party were very, very based. I’m not even sure that Joel or Blair even know who they were.

Cone of Silence
13 hours ago
It’s a numbers game Joel,, you’ll never reach a critical mass as long as you are the meme.

DIEVAL
13 hours ago
never adhere to being a “NAZI”, derogative term acceptance is a no, no.

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
Third position is the best regardless

@Vidkun
13 hours ago
I also find it hard to counterbalance the anger/hate.

Dawn Browning
13 hours ago
Woodlander Initiative/ AusLander Initiative. Raus.

@Helmet
13 hours ago
Sam broke you

@Helmet
13 hours ago
Sun your balls

Dawn Browning
13 hours ago
Blair just wants to grill?

@Helmet
13 hours ago
Bro go outside and get some sun ffs

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
Imagine the smell

@The_Eagle_Has_Landed
13 hours ago
Blair move into the country, it’s comfy here. No jeets no chinks no brownoids

@Ir0nW1LL
13 hours ago
Yes

Matt Hammond
13 hours ago
Ha ha. I hate the summer heat too…

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
a striker quote

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
Blair is right

ThinRedLine
14 hours ago
That is true

ThinRedLine
14 hours ago
Nationalism is invetitable

@Ir0nW1LL
14 hours ago
If Avi won’t debate, perhaps he’d agree to a charity boxing match?

Dawn Browning
14 hours ago
Catching up. Case in point re bullying white hetero boys was Parkdale High School 2021.

Dawn Browning
14 hours ago
Lay

ChainReaction
14 hours ago
learn to vote, Aussies
https://x.com/QBCCIntegrity/status/1876502687245897849

@Ir0nW1LL
14 hours ago
He knows full well what his comment section would reflect!

@Anna1913
14 hours ago
any surprises, we can read the past always like that

@Vidkun
13 hours ago
Please don’t do anything stupid, Blair. xD

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
Man is the animal who can run the furthest, because of our ability to sweat

Dawn Browning
13 hours ago
lol, it’s a cool evening

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
We got the ability sweat

Dawn Browning
13 hours ago
Liam Neeson did that

ThinRedLine
13 hours ago
we can’t be converted

DIEVAL
13 hours ago
you cunts need to do call ins….!

Channel
13 hours ago
I watched it at time o/

Dawn Browning
13 hours ago
Ricardo in his army kit

DIEVAL
13 hours ago
Ricardo Bosi is a gatekeeper period!

ThinRedLine
14 hours ago
they do business

ThinRedLine
14 hours ago
Rabbis at it

ThinRedLine
14 hours ago

@kong
sounds great o/

M88
14 hours ago

@TheThinRedLine
nearly 1933

ThinRedLine
14 hours ago
thx

@sieg
14 hours ago
pm

@sieg
14 hours ago
8:35

ThinRedLine
14 hours ago
What time is it in Australia ?

@sieg
14 hours ago
Lets get started

ThinRedLine
14 hours ago
G’day Aussies

@sieg
14 hours ago
Good day gents

@katana17
15 hours ago
[Sam Newman – Main Stream Push Back With Tom Sewell and Blair Cottrell – Feb 3, 2025 – Transcript]

Sam Newman – Main Stream Push Back With Tom Sewell and Blair Cottrell – Feb 3, 2025 – Transcript

Dawn Browning
16 hours ago
Share the link and/ or a screenshot.

JamesL
16 hours ago
gidday all from England

DanTheOracle
16 hours ago
o/

DanTheOracle
16 hours ago
Hello lads

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Joel Davis: Live. It is the 26 September 2024. Another episode of the show.

 

We’re back on Twitter. We had an incredible viewership on Twitter last week. We got way more views on Twitter than we get on any other platform. But our Rumble audience sustained. We got the same amount of views on the Rumble stream as we did the week before. Plus all these extra Twitter views. A big expansion of the audience just from broadcasting to Twitter now.

 

So as I said last week, I can’t believe we didn’t do this earlier, but it’s really nice to get that kind of response. And it feels like the show, man, I remember going back to last year when my YouTube was banned. We had a Joel and Blair show YouTube account that was banned. Then my YouTube was banned. I think Blair got a YouTube account banned as well. So we got hammered! We got completely wiped out on YouTube, and that was a real blow.

 

And then we were shunted onto Rumble. And we were already on Odysee and Cozy, but we’re shunted onto Rumble and we have to build up from scratch on Rumble.

 

And then this year, we got the Rumble audience back up to where it peaked on YouTube and then actually went past the peak YouTube audience. So we grew the show bigger on Rumble than it ever was on YouTube, and that felt like an achievement.

 

And then we then just now added a Twitter audience that then more than doubled the audience that we already had. So being de-platformed off YouTube has never been this good. Fuck YouTube! We don’t need YouTube. We’re now pulling, you know, three times the audience for the show that we were pulling when we were on YouTube a year ago. So that feels really good that we were able to withstand that hit. That really sucked at the time. And it felt a lot., … You know, if you told me a year in a year’s time, the show will have three times as many viewers, even though you’re still banned from YouTube, I would have probably not believed you. So kudos to everyone tuning in. Feels really good that we were able to basically take that blow and keep soldering on. Fuck YouTube! Fuck Google! Fuck ZOG! Hail Elon Musk! Hail our people!

 

But anyway, let’s get into the show. Blair, you want to? It’s grand final weekend here in Australia, and that means for Victorians, we don’t have to go to work tomorrow. So that’s pretty sick. But sports ball is kind of gay. I’m sure they’ll do some, like, gay abo [Aboriginal] shit at the beginning and maybe some just gay actual gay shit as well. Sometimes they Chuck that in with the gay abo shit! So I won’t be watching it. I don’t give a fuck about it! But you had some thoughts.

 

Blair Cottrell: Big sports ball weekend. That’s what we’re about to experience, especially in Victoria. Victoria was the birthplace of the Australian Football League [AFL] or Aussie Rules football.

 

So everyone’s looking forward to four days off. The holidays begin tomorrow, Friday, Saturday, Sunday is the sort of sporting experience, sports ball experience. And then I think Monday people get off as well. And there’s a real retard vibe out there. I just went to the gym and got home a little bit late and people are driving erratically, lining up at bottle shops, takeaway food shops and just getting in the way and being more retarded than usual. And it’s because this is the last day they had to work before sportsball weekend. So they’re just very excited for that reason and more retarded than usual for that reason as well.

 

A little bit frustrating for me because I’m completely disconnected from the public consciousness. I’m able to feel it, but I’m not connected to it. I’m still removed, so I can observe it, I can sort of read it, but it doesn’t rub off on me so much and I just want to go about my business as normal. But not everyone is as cynical as I am.

 

So I’m not trying to say you can’t enjoy your football. Like, we have a big sporting culture in Australia and I come from an AFL family myself, so I can appreciate it. Some watch, some somewhat. There’s a certain sort of soldierly aspect to the football player. They do do a lot of intensive training and they do have a lot of personal pride and team pride, like that sort of camaraderie, you might say that similar to like a battalion, or a political group like the like you boys are involved in.

 

So I can appreciate it, I can respect it. But the average peasant that sort of goes to the sports ball games and gets all hysterical and drunk and who looks forward to drinking a lot and taking a lot of drugs on sportsball weekends, they’re out in force right now and it’s just a little bit annoying.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I think there’s something special about it. Whenever you talk to non-Whites and they mention Australian culture, it’s the first thing that they do mention. They say:

 

“Oh, yeah, foottie and beer and meat pies.”

 

And look, I think football can be saved. I think certainly when we take state power we can certainly de-commercialise football, refocus on its localness and we can do a lot for football. We can make sports ball great again, certainly.

 

And as you said, there’s a martial component to it which is valuable. Australian soldiers were so highly regarded in the First and Second World War because we’re like a footy nation, like we’re a sporting nation and the Germans, the British. There’s lots of historical accounts of commentary on how Australian and New Zealand soldiers were of great stock and just great physical composition. And a lot of it is due to better diet and better exercise. So and just being a new colony as well. But I won’t get too caught up in that.

 

[05:34]

 

But what I will say about the weekend is I think the whole experience that go like, because I talk to the guys that work about, I am connected to it in the sense that everyone I work with, I’m the alien. Everyone I work with is obsessed with football. And I don’t want to get too like a psychoanalysis on it, but there’s something about the process, the ecstasis and the catharsis. There’s something about cheering and being disappointed or cheering and being happy at the end. There is some sort of strange spiritual, there is a metaphysics to it, certainly, that they, that does exist within the psyche of the majority of the population that should be nurtured and taken care of in a positive way. Obviously it’s been commercialised. It’s been made gay and pro-aboriginal and all this sort of nonsense! So obviously it’s been hijacked.

 

My main criticism of the nationalists that came before us is in Australia is their lack of, and I mean before us. I’m talking about the generation before. It’s not five years before we came on the scene, but the people that were around 30, 40 years before UPF [United Patriots Front] existed, or we came on the scene, they should have focused on AFL. If they had focused in the seventies and eighties on politicizing AFL for the Right-wing and bringing about a will to power and making that a central part of Australian nationalism back then, the movement as a whole would be just so well established. Because in Europe we have these intergenerational nationalists, intergenerational families of nationalists that did this at the end of the Second World War.

 

And a lot of the firms in England and a lot of the hooligan clubs in Europe, most of them are National Socialists or fascists or just very, very Right-wing. And that took a long time to develop that culture, that subculture within the football. And football in Europe is very political! But in America and Australia it’s very gay! It’s very anti-political. It’s very depoliticised to the point where it’s just anti-White. It’s so non-political that they’re then in the absence of a political nature of the sport, the state apparatus and the corporate state apparatus have managed to infiltrate and put their astroturf, fake culture, not a grassroots nationalist culture, which is what it should be.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s modern day coliseum. It’s just the coliseum. There’s a tribal aspect to the energy there. It’s something we’ve failed to tap into politically, but not entirely. We did take a banner to the footy once, remember? Probably 2016, I think that was.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, that caused such an hysterical reaction from the AFL official community. I mean, like the AFL administrative officers, because they couldn’t believe that someone had the guts [chuckling] to actually walk in there with a Right-wing banner and display it right in front of the scoreboard in front of everyone in the middle of a game!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Blair Cottrell: And they realised that they can’t actually stop people from doing that. Like, all we did was put that banner under my shirt. I just wore a baggy jacket and I walked in and paid for my ticket.xLike, anyone. And how are they able to identify everyone who’s going in there? That’s a lot. There’s like hundreds of how many people. Tens of thousands of people going into that.

 

Joel Davis: Especially if you larp as a fat guy!

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well, that’s actually exactly what I did. What was the game? It was Essendon versus.

 

Thomas Sewell: Collingwood.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, yeah. And I bought an oversized Collingwood jacket. I didn’t even support Collingwood just to conceal the banner and I never wore it again. I don’t know what happened to that jacket. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Your dad’s probably got it.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe, [chuckling] but Dad tends to wear the baggier jackets. He’s of that generation.

 

But the point was there’s no way they can actually stop us doing stuff like that. I’m kind of disappointed that no one’s done anything like that since. And even in us, I suppose, for not replicating that kind of activity. But who knows? Plenty of potential for that in the future.

 

Thomas Sewell: We’ll get back to it. We’re just trying to build up the footy boy culture at the moment. So it’s important, I think, for there to be an innate organic culture of people that already go to the footy.

 

And so we’ve recruited a lot of people this year and probably 5% are avid football fans, which is an improvement from the 0% that we’ve had in the past. Most people that we’ve recruited over the years have wanted nothing to do with AFL, just because of its de-politicisation and its anti-White nature.

 

But now that we’re becoming larger as a movement, we are starting to tap into a bit more sportsball fans, which is good. I actually appreciate that. I want that. I want to build a subculture of people that like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, we’ve definitely been too dismissive of football fans as though they’re beneath our politics for some reason, which is a little bit arrogant, I think we should really be tapping into the, …

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s got to be a class marriage, there’s got to be a class marriage and there’s different classes of politically active people. And what we need to focus on. We’ve been a Spearhead for a long time. We need to focus on, “inclusivity” is a bad dirty word these days, but we do need to focus on mobilising further classes of political agency.

 

[11:00]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think I understand the take. Though, when people say:

 

“Oh, look at all these grown men giving so much emotion and concern for some football team, but they put absolutely zero time, effort, resources or emotion into saving their nation or the existential threat that our people feel.”

 

And I do have that contempt myself. I do understand it.

 

So I get that. But you said this before, Tom, and I agree we kind of need to pick one team and put all the racist energy behind them and make them the racist team.

 

And so all the Lefties, like, start hating that particular team and then they become notorious. And then young racists get, …

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s already happened to some degree, like the wogs*. The wogs notoriously support Carlton. Carlton’s notoriously supported by wogs. And Collingwood is like the team of the White Aussie Bogans. So that already organically took place to some degree.

 

[* Wog is a racial slur used to refer, in British English, to black and South Asian people, and, in Australian English, to people from the Mediterranean region. Whilst it is extremely derogatory in British English, in Australian English it may be considered non-offensive depending on how the word is used, due to reclamation and changing connotations. Wikipedia]

 

Thomas Sewell: And St Kilda is the team of the coke snorting builders.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: I remember a friend of ours, Patrick O’Sullivan, shout out to Patrick O’Sullivan.

 

Thomas Sewell: Shout out to the Reverend!

 

Joel Davis: Hail Combat 18 and death to ZOG!

 

Anyway, he said that back in the day, St Kilda, because St Kilda is a very jewish area in Melbourne. It’s like one of the most jewish suburbs of Melbourne for those who are foreigners and don’t know. Their football team, it actually has the red, white and black.

 

So it’s the same colours as, like the Imperial German colours. And the jews got very upset about this and lobbied for it to be changed and obviously it was unsuccessful. So that’s kind of like a funny piece of history.

 

But yeah, I think we got to pick a team and make them the Nazi team. I don’t know which team it is, but like when we figure it out, let me know. I’ll buy all the gear, I’ll wrap it and, … It’ll happen organically.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’ll happen organically.

 

Joel Davis: I’ll be a watching the games. And yeah, I’ll get into, …

 

Blair Cottrell: [words unclear] Victorian thing.

 

Thomas Sewell: A series of players and they’ll refuse to do the latest jargon, whatever the latest political humiliation ritual is. Eventually, like we saw with that Welcome to Country recently, was that the semi-final or the preliminary?

 

Blair Cottrell: I think so.

 

Thomas Sewell: And how many of those players were looking at the ground or scoffing. So the body language is already like, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s already resisting.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, there is a resistance and all it’s going to take is one, similar to, there was a scandal probably five or six years ago with an islander rugby player that didn’t he say something on Facebook about how like:

 

“Fags aren’t going to heaven.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Folau or Falou?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, he said something on Facebook like:

 

“Gays aren’t going to heaven.”

 

Joel Davis: He’s a Mormon.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And then the NRL tried to remove him and then I think he took them to court. I can’t remember whether he won or lost, but that set a really important precedence that you can stand up to these institutions and there is going to be a lot of support from the public and it is worth dragging it through the courts. It is worth not necessarily being a political Martyr, but it is worth taking a stand, win or lose.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it would be good to, …

 

Thomas Sewell: It’ll happen again.

 

Joel Davis: Like if, like one of these teams, if they do like a mass walk off of the Welcome to Country, then, okay, we’ll get behind them. NSN will be at the next game. [chuckling] We’ll be there shaking around the scarves or whatever.

 

But I guess one thing about AFL, which is good is that it is a very White sport. Like if you watch the English Premier League or the NFL or like the equivalent in other countries, which they are, there’s a lot of non-Whites. Like, it’s almost majority non-White, I would say, like these leagues. I know they’re completely different sports. But AFL is like even that now they’re starting to bring some blacks into its still like 95% White.

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re doing programs. So if you’re Aboriginal or black, you’re, they’re being hyper selected. There’s a lot of programs at the moment for Sudanese youth and for Aboriginal youth to just play footy full-time. They’re just trying to astroturf the sport full of brown people. There’s no such thing for Whites, for White kids. If you’re a twelve year old, 14 year old, you’re a White kid at high school, there’s no programme for you to just play footy full-time.

 

But when I was doing Resi-care because all the kids on paper were written down as Aboriginal, even though they weren’t, they all had these openings. They all could, because they weren’t going to school anyway. So they can just go to this like, this football thing. Especially in the Northern Territory and wherever, like there’s like refugees being sent. And the purpose of it is to inorganically stack the AFL. To basically branch stack it. They basically want to branch stack it. They want to fudge the statistics, they want to fudge the representation.

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you reckon the way Australian football, like the rules are set up, it makes it a sport that’s kind of favours the Anglo Saxon predisposition, genetic predisposition, because it’s not just endurance, but you need ball skills, team skills, you need to work together as a unit. There’s a great deal of discipline that goes into being a professional footballer in that field.

 

[16:24]

 

Thomas Sewell: I wouldn’t say Anglo Saxon. I would say, and it’s ironic that it is your exact racial description. I would say it favours Celto-Nordics. I would say it’s a sport that favours the Nordic, the traditional German racial classification of what Nordics are and favours, I think. And it’s, and it comes from a Celtic background. I mean, its origin is a modified version of Gaelic football, which again, was a martial art designed by the Celts to maintain an army under British occupation. Basically all Celtic sports were built like that.

 

And that’s why we did it. That’s why we’ve done it for a long time, why it’s absolutely crucial we continue to do it.

 

And obviously because it favours the longer, the longer tendon and limb length. You know, most footballers are quite tall and long limbed, like all sort of running and throwing sports. Yeah, they’re lean, they’re endurant. It doesn’t necessarily favour like kind of Denarids or lower Saxons or like short, stocky guys or mountainous people. It doesn’t really suit that kind of type. It suits the kind of Nordic plain runners. So and, but there’s that type. There’s that build. There’s that AFL build in almost every race except probably Asians. There is that build. But obviously, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, there’s no Chinaman playing AFL.

 

Thomas Sewell: No. And obviously there’s a lot of reasons for that, but, yeah, they certainly don’t organically have that kind of build. It’s suited or Celto-Nordics. And unfortunately, Central Africans. Central Africans are going to be very good at it if they can stack enough of them with it.

 

So if they can run programs to promote Central Africans,

 

Joel Davis: Which they are.

 

Thomas Sewell: West Africans are too fast, twitch. They’re probably better for rugby and power sports. And East Africans are too endurant, they’re too brittle. So, but Central Africans are a hybrid of the two. So they would actually make good AFL players if the sport was to be played over there, unfortunately. That doesn’t mean I’m not a racist anymore! That’s just a genetic fact.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well, family members of mine that have been draughted and have played in the past, they’re all long limbs sprinters, jumpers, lean endurance. So that there’s something to what you’re saying for sure.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And what the advantage of the Whiteman is, it’s just that we’ve got the brain on the sporting field or on the battlefield. The Whiteman didn’t conquer Africa or these other continents because we’re like infinitely physically superior in terms of muscle mass or strength, although we’re definitely a lot better than Indians. Indian men have lower upper body strength than White women. That’s a fact. Which is, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Even grip strength.

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, yeah. Upper body strength, grip strength.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s interesting because that makes them bad rapists! You’d think that’d be like, …

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s why they’re gang rapists.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh right! They need to work together. I see, I see.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s how their continent works.

 

But, yeah, certainly the reason why we’ve been such great conquerors and the reason why we also, as a race, good sportsmen or kind of obsessed with sports is more to do with the tactics involved in the sport. You don’t win by just being more athletic than the opposition. You win by having better teamwork and better communication. And that’s where the Whiteman excels.

 

So when you take away all the White coaches and all the White culture and all the White establishment around these English soccer teams, for example, and it’s just Africans coaching Africans. They’re not going to be as good as the White team. You know, they’re only good because they’re propped up.

 

I think Hitler says something in Mein Kampf about how you can basically, you can teach an African to do an opera or to be a conductor, or you can teach an African to play a musical instrument and do jazz, or you can teach an African to be a politician, even. Like one day they might in France. I think he makes like this little subtle mock of the French saying, like:

 

“One day there’ll be African politicians in France. They’ll manage to teach one like that.”

 

But ultimately it’s still a Whiteman that taught him to do that. So that’s an important distinction. That’s straight MK, that’s straight Mein Kampf. That’s important to know.

 

Blair Cottrell: Straight Pastor Manning too. Remember Pastor Manning? He said:

 

“Talk to a black man. I don’t care! He could be an astrophysicist, or a doctor. You talk to him. He’s got no fucking sense!”

 

I [chuckling] remember that Pastor Manning. If no one’s seen Pastor Manning, it’s kind of an old meme now, but it’s still a good laugh if you can find it.

 

Thomas Sewell: The only sense Africans make is when they’re talking about women, especially their own women. They understand their own women very well.

 

Blair Cottrell: And is that why they avoid them? [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: [chuckling] That’s why they make good comedians, because they usually just complain about women and they’re really funny when do it, because it’s just spot on! They know exactly what’s going on there. Because they’re operating on a lower Chakra. Their masters of like the lowest dimension because that’s where they live. That’s where they’re always gyrating and moving their hips around because all their energy is actually in their, … They don’t have any higher Chakra.

 

Joel Davis: The use the word “arse” to describe everything.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, everything’s “arse, shit”.

 

Joel Davis:

 

“Yo, arse! Oh, yeah, I saw y’all arse down the street. You know what I mean?”

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, yeah. Between their dick and their ass, that’s where all their energy is. That’s why their pants are saggy. Like, they crip walk. All their energy is down there. So they understand that realm quite well because that’s where they live. They live in the shit!

Blair Cottrell: Harsh [chuckling] but fair! Yeah, well, look, we’ve begun by talking about football. We’ve unbelievably segued into a racial discussion. What are we going to bring it back to, what’s our next subject?

 

Joel Davis: Let’s actually get into like the bread and butter of the show this evening because we’ve done a little bit of waiting for people to get in.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s 1, 300 viewers and we’re just talking about sportsball. It’s hilarious!

 

Joel Davis: No, so let’s, what I wanted to discuss tonight, and it will bridge into another aspect of this, but I want to discuss the principle of building nationalism from the ground up. That’s what I titled the stream.

 

We’ve covered this kind of thing on the show before, but I think this is important to go back over and discuss it between three of us, because that’s basically what we’re trying to do. We believe that, not necessarily happy about it, that we have to build nationalism from the ground up. We would like to be able to cut the line. We’d like to be able to build it from the top down or skip a few stages ahead.

 

But we don’t see that as possible. We see that basically we’re in a position where we’re building from square one. Our ancestors have completely let us down and handed us down. They didn’t hand it a baton of anything. We’re like starting the race from the very beginning, from the very start line. And there’s a lot of people that agree with us on the problem. They agree with us that Whites are being replaced, Whites are being genocided. The jews are the primary enemy of our people.

 

But we’ve got all of these White traitors. We’ve got liberalism. We’ve got this kind of cucked humanitarian ideology permeating through our people that prevents us from seeing politics in the correct way. And that is kind of used, Holocaust narrative, colonialism narrative, et cetera, used to demonise us, demonise organising on behalf of White people. They’ll agree and have good talking points about on all these issues.

 

But then their view is that:

 

“Well, okay, but if we can just influence the conservative movement or if we can influence the current establishment and move into elite positions, there’s some way in which we can redirect the ship.”

 

And there’s all different kinds of approaches that more or less fit underneath these categories. And I would love that to be true!

 

A few years ago if I wind back the clock, you know, four years, five years, I thought more that maybe something like that could be possible and that maybe there would be elements of the elite that could be won over and that a strategy like that potentially could work. And I became disabused with that notion over time. And I’m sure you guys probably did as well at one point, have more of that kind of thought. Where you thought of more of a conservative mainstream political movement would be potentially enough.

 

But I think we’ve all seen enough and experienced enough, particularly in Australia. But this is true around the world where we don’t actually think that’s going to be possible. We realise that in order for White interests to be asserted politically, White people have to get organised from the grassroots! We have to come together at the absolute base foundation, bring our men together, bring our money together, and build from the ground up so that we can get to a position where we have enough power emanating from us as a people, independently from us as a people that isn’t subject to the Liberal ideology of the White traitors or to jewish interests or whatever, all these economic interests from people who profit from globalisation and the perpetuation of the status quo, but could instead, in a revolutionary way, assert White interests. Particularly and only because it’s fundamentally backed by White power, White people, White money for explicitly pro-White reasons. And that’s a very difficult thing to build. Because you’re trying to build from scratch against the hostile system. And it’s pretty hard to sell it at first. If you have a pre-existing institution, it’s easy to convince people to put their money and manpower and faith in it.

 

But when you’re starting from scratch and you only have a small amount of people and a dream and a vision, that’s quite difficult. But we see no other way. Because nothing exists in Australia that we can see that is filling that role. And so we’re basically starting from square one and trying to build something that could fill that role.

 

Blair Cottrell: What does starting from square one physically look like?

 

Joel Davis: It physically looks like, I think step one is what we’re doing is just trying to get White men organised around the principle of a no compromise White nationalism a pure White nationalism, a pure pro-White position around the country. And they’re going to be paying dues into the same pot and bringing along their wives and girlfriends and bringing their mates baby from work or something, or they went to school with. And we’re doing the streams like this. We’re putting the message out, we’re doing street activism and so on to put the message out:

 

“Hey, we exist! Hey, White Australia, someone’s going to stand on behalf of you! There’s actually another option than just passively accepting the kind of gradual genocide of our people and just trying to advance your own individual interests within the decaying and collapsing civilisation and a system that’s taking away more and more of your dignity and well being and your children’s future, piece by piece, every day. There is a resistance movement!”

 

As we grow larger, as we get more professional, that message will get louder, it will get more attractive, and we’ll bring in more and more people, and then they’ll make us able to make it louder and more attractive, and we’ll bring in more people and more resources and so on until we can swell to a size where we have enough men, and we have enough money and we’ve bought out a whole series of land, businesses. We’ve got people on the payroll of all these different specifications, and we have a parallel economy for our activists, so that we have a political party, we’re running political candidates, we’re full spectrum. We’re doing all the different functions. We’re doing a big conferences, we’ve got a sophisticated media arm and so on, where we are a serious, fully fledged, well funded political movement.

 

And when that exists, then we can present to White Australia a genuine political alternative. Like there is something else other than just voting for Liberal or Labour or maybe One Nation or the Greens, or something every four years. And that’s all politics is.

 

[28:48]

 

Blair Cottrell: I would like to see and contribute to, like manufacturing a popular counterculture from which we can siphon people. A counterculture that has working class Australians saying:

 

“Yeah, I’m a nationalist. Like, you got a problem with that? Fuck you!”

 

And the youth are saying:

 

“Yeah, I’m racist! Of course I’m racist. I’m not stupid!”

 

If we can create a counterculture like that, then people will say it’s kind of like, build it. And what do they say? If you build it, they will come. Yeah, yeah. So siphoning from a counterculture and helping, fostering, nurturing the growth of that kind of culture is the role I see myself playing personally.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes. Well, the mission, the original mission statement for NSN, EAM has always been more of a community group focused on collating, collecting, and centralizing all the people that have this basic position. And that’s always been my main objective, is just:

 

“Okay, if you feel this way about the situation, let’s organise in real life.”

 

Because being on the Internet is not enough. And Jacob’s mission statement for NSN was, well, the first essay that he actually wrote and distributed through the NSN website, the original one before the jews had that one taken down, was about the nature of “metapolitics”, which is a word that gets thrown around a lot. Most people don’t understand it. But it’s about the idea that we need to make cultural changes or changes in the dialogue, changes in the dialectic, in the national conversation, if you want to call it that. There needs to be that change in how people perceive politics before this space, for political change. For actual political change, whether that’s Parliamentarian change or that’s change within the state apparatus. But there needs to be, first that culture shift. That needs to be. Yeah, I’ve already explained it. I won’t repeat it again, but that’s an important concept. You kind of have to go through a meta-political, grassroots focus.

 

Likewise with what I’ve always been focusing on. The strategy, not necessarily always, but since 2017, is about building loyalty at that grassroots level. What does grassroots nationalism look like to me? Well, it looks like loyal groups of men at a local level. And when all the loyal groups of men at a local level can meet up with each other, and then they can network with groups of men that aren’t necessarily local to them on a rare occasion, whether it’s once every month or once every three months or once a year, then you start to have some sort of political agency.

 

And this is why the jews have power. They don’t have power just because they have money. They have money because they have mobilisation and organisation power. Money is not the source of their power. Money is the medium of their power. Their power comes from their organisation. They organise together. They have synagogues.

 

Blair Cottrell: Their power comes from their racism, you might say.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, the power comes from their racism, which drives their mobilisation and organisation. Their racial consciousness, or their religious and racial consciousness breeds their, hyper selects, their organisational skills.

 

Blair Cottrell: And the most fundamental way that they can actually eliminate threats to their own community in that regard, or even ensure no one can challenge them, is to attack people in the most fundamental way, which is preventing other forms of racism from taking root.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like racism in different communities.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. If you can defeat racism in other groups, then you’re the dominant group.

 

And likewise, once you’ve defeated racism in other groups, then you can attack their ability to mobilise. So any group, like, of White people that are mobilising, but they’re not racist, well, then you can then enforce diversity quotas on them. You can say:

 

“Oh, you’re not racist. Well, how about you have some more refugees over here? And why aren’t you teaching the curriculum at your schools?”

 

Or, you know, any attempt you have at building parallel society without being explicit, is kind of like a temporary situation where you’re eventually going to meet your political, you’re going to hit a political brick wall, where, … A better way of putting it is you’re going to eventually meet your small Rubicon. You’re going to meet a, …

 

Blair Cottrell: You’ll hit an existential brick.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Blair Cottrell: Your whole existence will be cancelled out and changed.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. If you don’t cross that Rubicon, if you don’t go:

 

“Well, actually, this is the moment where our group are, …”

 

Whether it’s some sneaky project or not, at some point, you’re going to hit that Rubicon where it’s like you either cross the river and take back Rome, or you just, you stay forever on the other side, and you’re just attacked and attritioned into the abyss.

 

[33:42]

 

So I think it’s very important that, and I took some notes earlier, for people to really understand what strategy they should use, they should first assess what is going on with Western civilisation and what is going on with the White race. And the shortest way I can explain it is we’re going through a civilisational death, but death in itself is paired with life. It’s paired with rebirth. So death in itself, we can be black pilled about and we can say:

 

“Oh, it’s so sad that Western civilisation is collapsing.”

 

Or we can say:

 

“Well, hang on a minute. It’s lived its life cycle. It’s time for it to be reborn. Now, because it’s dying. It’s full of traitors, it’s full of cancer, it’s full of asbestos, it’s full of anything that’s basically attacking the healthy organs.”

 

And even though the organism is itself, the shell of the organism is dead, or at least very seriously dying, there are still healthy living parts within the cell.

 

And if you understand how a Venn diagram looks, my belief is that the cell needs to duplicate elsewhere. I don’t believe you can reform something that’s dead. You have to be revolutionary. You have to extract on a long enough timeline, you have to extract everything that is living, everything that is still healthy and beautiful and noble and upright. You have to extract that from the current civilisation and put it somewhere else, in a different space. It needs space. It needs distance. I call it authority through exclusion. Joel calls it the pathos of distance or space, but it needs to be separate, needs to be physically separate, culturally separate, even linguistically separate. It needs to be a completely separate entity. And eventually with separate borders as well, at a national level as a nation state.

 

And so this is not an immediate process. This civilisational mitosis, where it’s a single body like this, we’re all mixed into one and all atomized and alienated all in one. And for it to split into two different cells and we allow the other one to die on its own weight. It’ll fight of course, it’ll fight. It’ll have a, an attempt at dragging us down into hell with it, and we just have to not go down into hell with it. And if that means we have to fight it, then it means we have to.

 

Blair Cottrell: This has arguably happened organically with separation of certain groups from the motherland in England to America and Australia.

 

But as you said, there wasn’t an explicit enough understanding of a racial consciousness and identity, at least not a unified one, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, it’s happening also at a micro scale with White flight. Everyone’s already organically doing a it. And that’s important. You know, people overuse the statement, “I’ll lean into it”. What’s it, what does that look like? Okay, let’s lean into it. So we all just, we all just run away forever. We can’t do that forever, can we? But we do recognise that there is an energy where there’s healthy people within the system that are doing everything they can to kind of be slightly outside the system, and we have to continue to promote that culture.

 

And this is where the primary schism comes from between the two strategies, the reformists and the revolutionaries.

 

The reformists say, don’t do that! That’s downwards, backwards social mobility:

 

“Don’t do that! You should become a lawyer, you should get involved with the Liberal Party. Rah, rah, rah!”

 

And look, I’m sure there’s some talented people that can do that, and good on them and good luck with them. But on a long enough timeline, the Liberal Party is controlled, as Joel mentioned last show, by jews! It’s controlled by jewish money. And if we don’t mobilise and organise on explicitly racial lines, which means not reform, it means revolutionary strategy.

 

The only way for infiltration to work is actually just simply to support for people that exist within the system to support the mitosis. That’s really the only way infiltration will work, is to use their skills and their resources from within the decaying system to help rebuild the next system. And that takes a lot of money and takes a lot of skills and a lot of knowledge. And we don’t want to lose that knowledge. So it’s good that people are getting highly skilled jobs. It’s good that people are staying within the system, but their motivation for staying within the system should be to extract as much wealth and knowledge as they can and then let it die. Let it die and move across!

 

And the last point that I’ll finish on before I hand the mic back over is, why won’t the elites back us? Why won’t the elites back us? They’re never going to back us until the last minute! Because its grassroots!

 

Since World War Two, everything’s reset. And what Hitler went through is a microcosm of what the world is going through now. The first people to support Hitler were the working class, were the ex-soldiers, were the homeless, were the mentally ill veterans. Those are the first people that helped Hitler. The lowest people! Yes, there were some brains, there were some academics, there were some spokespeople, some Thule and Vril. You know, there was a little bit of esoteric. There was people that were doing this for some time and hadn’t made it with their politics because the time wasn’t right and they didn’t have someone like Hitler. So they backed him and they helped him.

 

So he had some good advisors in his corner. But ten advisors in your corner don’t make a movement. It’s thousands of men with the good energy, with good faith! And those are the first people he attracted. Then he won over the middle class, then he won over the upper middle class. And then right at the last minute, he started winning over intellectuals, philosophers, Professors at the university, judges, media people.

 

And eventually the old money! The old stock money. The people that own the steelworks, the people that own the coal. But this is all in the last year or two. The people that built the movement were working class and middle class people, in that order.

 

So what grassroots nationalism looks like globally, across the West, across all White countries, is it looks like World War Two is over. Allegedly. Hitler’s lost. Allegedly. And we’re back to square one.

 

And so who were the people that kept the fire lit from 1945 through to basically us? Who were the only people? There’s a few intellectuals. Of course, we can name ten or 15 intellectuals, but the people that kept the fire lit were fucking football hooligans, working class bogans, tatted up to the eyeball, skin heads, …

 

[39:58]

 

Blair Cottrell: People were most emotionally invested or with the capacity to be emotionally invested.

 

Thomas Sewell: But also it was the people that had the least to lose. And how Hitler took power was the people with the least to lose were like:

 

“Fuck it! Mask off. Let’s do it!”

 

And then eventually they built enough numbers of that they started moving up the social strata.

 

So this whole process of how we’re going to take power, the elites will join us when it’s in their interests, and then when they’ve got nothing left to lose! When the Marxists are at the door, when the communists are at the door, when they’re about to lose everything! And it’s basically us or lose everything, then all of a sudden we look really attractive, and they’re like:

 

“Actually, I’ve been sympathetic the whole time. Can have a party pin, please?”

 

And that’s what happens in the last twelve months before you take power.

 

So don’t expect any elites to back us anytime soon! We’ve got a long road ahead.

 

Joel Davis: It’s important. This, this is a point that for some reason, so many people can’t get through their fucking head! And it’s so simple. Which is that they think that we need to go to people that have a lot of money right now and get their money. Otherwise, we can’t build a political movement. In the example you just gave of the NSDAP, they got 80% of the way there just on like, the rank and file donations of their members. And that made them a serious and the biggest political party in Germany.

 

And then the big money started coming in right at the end. There’s a great book written by Henry Ashby Turner* called, I think it’s called The Rise of Adolf Hitler and Big Business, or something akin to that. And he details this. And he completely destroys in that book this Marxist nonsense, that National Socialism was funded by the capitalist elite to stop the communists or something. It’s just total bullshit! It’s not true historically. And I think, actually we should probably do a podcast on that book one day and go through it, because it’s a fantastic book, and I would like to reread it, and there’s a lot of really valuable stuff in it.

 

[* Henry Ashby Turner, Jr. Was an American historian of Germany who was a Professor at Yale University for over forty years. He is best known for his book German Big Business and the Rise of Hitler in which he challenged the common theory that industrialists in Germany were the Nazi Party’s most influential supporters. Wikipedia]

 

But putting that to one side. Just think about it like this. If you have 10,000 people, 10,000 Australians, and there’s 10,000 already White Australians that watch our streams and know who we are and follow us on social media, at least there’s more than 10,000. But you got 10,000. And they all put in $20 a week. Everyone can afford $20 a week. It’s fuck all! It’s like you go out to get a feed, and it costs more than that it’s nothing. You just have dinner at home one night instead of going out. And that’s basically $20 a week. That is $10 million a year. Just that.

 

There’s 100,000 Australians. There’s more than 100,000 Australians that are White nationalists, that have White nationalist opinions. If 100,000 White Australians put in $20 a week, which is fuck all, anyone, even if you’re on fucking Centrelink, you can put $20 a week in. That’s 100 grand a year. [$2,000,000] That’s enough to have a political campaign and compete for political power.

 

Like, I’d be interested to see how much money the Greens are pulling in. I reckon they probably would not even have our operational budget of $100 million a year. I reckon they probably pay less than that’s the third biggest political party in Australia, right?

 

So that’s just a hundred thousand people putting in $20 a week. It’s actually very feasible. There’s already 100,000 White nationalists in Australia, in my opinion. Like, at least! There’s more.

 

So the idea that you can’t build a political movement with the grassroots is just wrong. You can actually. If everyone chips in a little bit, it adds up very quickly. And you can compete with the big money, you can compete with the big property lobbyists and the business lobbyists and so on. And that’s a very measly sum. That’s a number I pulled out of my arse. And if you’ve got a political movement that’s already got that kind of money behind it, you can have a very sophisticated and professional outfit. And that’s going to attract the big money because it’s like:

 

“Okay, these guys are serious!”

 

So if we organise that first 10,000, and we work our way up to organising that first hundred thousand, and there are more than 100,000 White Australians that are ready to hear our message. There’s millions of White Australians that want to hear our message. If we organise just a fraction of them and get them organised and paying into the same pot, organised under the same leadership we can become one of the one of the big forces in Australian politics and start throwing our weight around in a serious way. It actually isn’t, like that complicated. It actually isn’t that crazy to think.

 

So people need to understand there is a lot of power and value in the grassroots, in that five to 10% of Aussies that are already basically ready to receive our message in almost its entirety. If we just focus on getting those guys organised, reaching those guys, getting them to show up to events, getting them to pay money into the same pot, getting them to respect one set of leaders and professionalise our output. We build a parallel economy to support our top activists, to withstand attacks from the system, and we make ourselves presentable. We have good propaganda. We ensure that we’re part of the conversation. Our message will sell itself. We’ve got a great message. There’s millions of White Australians ready to hear our message. And if you have a serious political movement putting our message forward, they will get behind it, they will back it.

 

So to me, it’s actually not that complicated. We don’t need magic billionaires to come in and save us. We don’t!

 

[45:39]

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well, there’s enough working class people with the resources. I mean, all you need is those weekly or monthly dues and you have enough members, enough card carrying members. They don’t have to be like, active physical participants, card carrying, paying members. Then you’ll have all the resources you need to grow that parallel community, I suppose.

 

Joel Davis: That’s the other thing as well about de-platforming. If you register as an official political party, you get there’s a whole bunch of protections, like legal protections that you get that prevent you from being de-platformed in, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Same as if you register as a religious group too, which is something that I’ve always argued would be beneficial for any Right-wing or nationalistic community group.

 

Joel Davis: And also there’s like, if you make a formal group, there’s like transparency and so on. The point is that there’s legal Avenues to set up a proper White nationalist outfit in this country. I don’t think almost anyone really has the political will to get the men in the room and get the people together, except us and our associates. I don’t see anyone else in Australia that putting a serious effort towards it.

 

So if you’re a serious White nationalist movement, either go and build something better than what we’re doing and show us how it’s done. And if you, if your shit takes off, well, we’ll go:

 

“All right! We’ll fucking come along and we’ll fucking put our guys and we’ll come along and do your thing.”

 

If you can do something that will work better than us, prove it! Make it, prove it and we’ll back you. Even if you do something that is worse than us, we’ll still give you some fucking support, because that’s how we just care about the movement.

 

There’s other organisations in the movement that we give one sided support to, and we don’t get a lot of support back, because we just want to see everything work. We want to see the movement grow. We actually just care about saving White people more than anything.

 

But we’re the guys that can get an actual serious amount of men together in this country over the next few years. If the people that are already following us and know who we are want to get behind it and give us their support, we can fucking do it! It’s just about the willpower, the determination.

 

The reason why the jews are winning. I posted about this on Twitter. One of the main reasons why they’re winning is very simple! It’s because jews put their money in to pro-jewish organisations. There’s all these jewish activist groups and jewish lobbyist groups and shit! The jews chip in! And yeah, there are some wealthy jews that put in serious dollars, but the jews put their money into pro-jewish organisations.

 

And so there’s all these big, powerful pro-jewish organisations that throw their weight around in politics and throw their weight around in the media. And the jews get what they want, nine times out of ten! We don’t do that. White Australians will do that. No White group does that.

 

And so we don’t ever fucking get what we want! It’s like, it’s very simple and there’s more to it than that. But it is a very large, basic component, White people are too fucking individualistic! Like, I made a tweet about this yesterday and this guy came back like:

 

“Oh, Joel, why don’t you go and start your own business and make the money yourself? Why are you e-begging?”

 

And I wasn’t even e-begging. I wasn’t requesting donations.

 

We need to get our act together, our organisation. We don’t even have things set up for anyone to fucking donate to us. We only take dues from our own members. We probably need to fix that.

 

We need to get better at that kind of thing. We don’t because we’ve got this culture of this anti-grifting culture, anti-money culture, this hyper individualistic White culture. We need to fucking get over that! ! We need to start putting our money together and building collective power.

 

Because if I go, all right, I’m going to go and start my own business. He’s like:

 

“Joel, you’re a smart guy. If you started your own business, you would be cancel-proof. You’d make all this money!”

 

Okay, I’ll go put fucking 70, 80 hours a week into starting my own business. And then there goes one of the only, like, four White nationalist political activists in this whole country that anyone knows who they are.

 

[49:51]

 

Blair Cottrell: You just end up working for the man to pay tax!

 

Joel Davis: Like, is that what you really want? We have, like, four. Okay, maybe there’s a few others. Like, I guess we could say five. I can name a few more. But there’s a small group of us that are the only, like, White nationalist political activists that from Australia that anyone even fucking knows who they are!

 

So do you really want us, … You know, would you want us building the fucking movement, or do you want us, like, what? Like, at some point you’re gonna have to fucking give us some fucking money! Not so that we can go and pay off our mortgage and live it up, but so that we can pay for the fucking movement! It’s gonna cost a lot of money for us to fucking get this shit together. So at some point, like, if you don’t trust us, that’s fine. I said in my tweet:

 

“Support someone.”

 

And I was talking internationally, there’s groups in other countries to support as well, if you’re from other countries.

 

But if you don’t want to support us, go find someone else to support them. But we’re going to have to put our money fucking somewhere. And you go and join them to give your manpower, give your hours, give your time. If we don’t put our money and our fucking time and our effort into the White nationalist movement in some fucking capacity, it won’t fucking exist!

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, everyone subscribes, Joel. Everyone’s ready to subscribe to Netflix and Audible and Spotify. And they pay that subscription. It’s like, what? Some of them are $7 a month, some are $14 a month. Why not subscribe to White Australia? Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, that’s all stuff that I’m working on the moment. So as I’ve said before in the past, we’re looking at streamlining everything, the whole operation. And what we’re looking at doing is integrating more of a supporter class of our movement.

 

So obviously, our expectations for people being involved is very high. And what I’m talking to the state leaders about is developing an apparatus that people can be involved. It’s actually quite interesting. I got a message, sadly, just as the stream was about to start from one of our new members, new recruits that’s looking to get involved. Who’s saying he can’t really be involved anymore. I just skimmed. I said:

 

“I’ll answer this question after the stream.”

 

But out of the last maybe 20 guys we recruited, one guy’s messaged me saying:

 

“Hey, look, it’s a big time commitment.”

 

Which it’s not, but I’ll address that later. Unless he’s watching, then he will understand it’s not a big time commitment. We’re not asking for much. But he’s saying that he doesn’t really want to engage in the activism and the training. He’d rather just donate a lump sum of money every month, more than what he’s already paying in dues, the $50. So I’ll address that with him when I get off the show.

 

But that is interesting timing, because that is actually something that we’ve been in discussions about in the last couple of months, and especially in the last couple of weeks, about how do we go about building that apparatus. So it’s still in a planning phase. I can almost guarantee by the end of the year, we will be in a situation where there will be a clear cut pathway.

 

What I need to do first is register as either an incorporated society or as an ethno-religious group. I need to register things on paper. Because the issue that we’re going to have when we start taking a lot of money, because we’ve done fundraisers in the past, and what the government’s trying to do is its trying to claim that that money is personal income.

 

So all the fundraisers that we’ve done, they don’t just shut down your bank accounts, they’re trying to asphyxiate you everywhere with everything! So we’ve raised a little bit of money from time to time, especially for things like legal fees. If we’re starting to take in massive amounts of money, like we recently raised 16 grand on GiveSendGo for the deposit on the farm that we’re trying to get. And that money was all refunded to everyone, and everyone’s really upset about that.

 

But look, when we put the fundraiser back up, I’m sure it will fast pass $16,000 when it goes back up. But where does that money go when that 16 grand is cashed out from the website? If it goes to my personal bank account, the government’s going to take probably close to half of it. So I need to set up the infrastructure to have everything above board and legal so that we can then start taking in. Because 16 grand is nothing as I was saying before, and as Joel was saying, you know,

 

Blair Cottrell: Was that GiveSendGo Tom? Was that GiveSendGo that actually refunded everyone’s money?

 

Thomas Sewell: That was GiveSendGo. And it was under pressure from the Australian government. So it happened at the same time that it was raised in the Senate inquiry.

 

So at the Senate inquiry, some fucking communists were saying:

 

“How come there’s American websites, you know, raising money for this terrorist organisation, NSN, you know, rah, rah, rah. Why is this happening? Why isn’t the government doing something about it?”

 

And the government obviously wrote letters pressuring GiveSendGo to be like:

 

“Hey, can you refund this money to everyone? Like, we don’t want it going to this group. This group is obviously like a national security risk to faggot brown Australia.”

 

Because I think the GiveSendGo just said, like:

 

“Fundraiser for the White Australian community to have a property.”

 

Like, to have a home. We don’t have a home. Most of us are renting or we have mortgages in the city. We don’t really have living space for an Org to really, truly grow and take off, for an Org to grow and take off, it needs a physical home that its members or its leaders aren’t indebted to trying to pay off all the time.

 

[54:56]

 

So if we’re all at work, you know, 40 hours a week plus, to try to pay off a building like a headquarters, or a house for us to operate out of, not just a personal home, but a home for the Org, then how can the leaders then have the freedom, like the physical freedom, the time, the free time, to then push the movement into the next stage? It’s just not possible. We just stagnate at this level where it’s like one podcast a week, and it’s like we get a little bit of work done or we do some activism and we organise the manpower, we vet new members, and we slowly grow. But to really unlock the next stage, which is where we’re heading. The amount of recruitment we’re getting, we’re going to need people working full-time on this. And it can’t just be funded purely from the in-house. And there are a lot of people willing to donate and that’s awesome and be supporters.

 

So what I’m looking at doing is setting up an apparatus so that we have a governing organisation, and then that governing organisation is legally registered within the system so that it is protected. And I saw some smartass in the comments say just then, not just then, but like five minutes ago:

 

“Why would you be doing all this, if the civilisation is dead?”

 

These people are just so frustrating and annoying. Something dies over hundreds of years. So this idea that we can’t operate a little bit in the system in order to not get fucking Wacoed*, or not get fucking $100,000 tax Bill! Like this is just like splitting hairs. Analysis paralysis. These are just the worst kinds of fucking political commentators!

 

[* The Waco siege, also known as the Waco massacre, was the siege by U.S. Federal government and Texas state law enforcement officials of a compound belonging to the religious cult known as the Branch Davidians, between February 28 and April 19, 1993. The Branch Davidians, led by David Koresh, were headquartered at Mount Carmel Center ranch in unincorporated McLennan County, Texas, 13 miles (21 kilometers) northeast of Waco. Suspecting the group of stockpiling illegal weapons, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) obtained a search warrant for the compound and arrest warrants for Koresh and several of the group’s members. After 51 days, on April 19, 1993, the FBI launched a tear gas attack in an attempt to force the Branch Davidians out of the compound’s buildings. Shortly thereafter, the Mount Carmel Center became engulfed in flames. The fire and the reaction to the final attack within the group resulted in the deaths of 76 Branch Davidians, including 20–28 children and David Koresh. In total, the 51-day siege resulted in the deaths of four federal agents and 82 Branch Davidians, somewhere between 20 and, 208 of whom were children.]

 

And I try to ignore it, but they just kept commenting. Pain in the ass, to be honest, because these people are fucking do-nothings! This person will never do anything. They just sit on the Internet and be like:

 

“Oh, but you’re not doing this exactly correct!”

 

It’s like, fuck you! Shut your fucking mouth! Didn’t ask for your opinion. Pain in the arse!

 

Like, we’ve dedicated ten years to this, and I dedicate probably 30 or 40 hours a week, on top of my day job to this. And then you’ve got these fucking wankers that think their opinion is just as valid as you because they can nitpick something at you. No, we’re not a democracy. That’s not how it works. Get your feet in the movement. Actually get your foot in the door, and let’s have the conversation in person. But you won’t do that, will you? Just a piece of shit on the Internet.

 

So, as I was saying, more importantly, we set up the apparatus, and what we’re going to do is set up a supporters class. And so we have activists, we have a leadership team, we have activists, and we have a pool of associates. We have people that they’ve kind of dipped their toes in. They’ve come and trained a little bit or done a little bit of activism, but they don’t really want to commit to the once a month thing.

 

So what we’re trying to do is work out a class within the organisation that isn’t necessarily going to attend once a month, but maybe we might see them once or twice a year, and they can engage with the movement when they feel like it at those bigger events on the condition that they’re a financial supporter. And I think that’s a fair equilibrium of forces.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, that would be another good thing as well. When we get some property. The reason why we want to do that, is because it’s just a cheaper option for us to all homestead on it and so on, rather than individually, you know, working out our arrangements. We want to be within, like, on the periphery of the city, like, attack distance of the city. But the objective then, if we can build a large community, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, [chuckling] I can think of a better term to use!

 

But yeah.

 

Joel Davis: But if we build like a large community, …

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re still politically relevant, we’re not just like hiding out. Obviously long term, we do want to do that. Long term, we do want to build something ages away with a huge amount of people, but for the amount of people we have at the moment, it’s better for us to stay connected to the city. I don’t think we need to build, …

 

[58:52]

 

Joel Davis: The city is the main, like, we’re building chapters in the rural areas, which is fantastic! And we’re getting a lot of good recruits from those areas. And there’s a lot of good stock, high quality White men that live in rural areas that are switched on and that are going to be great assets to the movement.

 

So we don’t want to be just a city movement. But the cities, there’s a large concentration of people, a lot of disaffected young White men dealing with the perils of diversity, that we want to bring in. That’s why we want to have our gyms and things like that. I’ve floated the idea it would be nice to buy some pubs in the cities and have, like, White nationalist pubs where we’ve got, like, our guys doing the DJing or our guys playing in bands and our guys at the security, and we got a bunch of Aryan babes behind the, pouring drinks and a place for the young White men to hang out. Community hubs for young White people in general. Because it’s important to build that community structure for the activist corp and to keep replenishing the activist corps with more and more recruits.

 

And then as they go up in the life cycle and they get ready to settle down and have kids, well, then if we have, like, peripheral rural areas, they can homestead on, where they can live a lifestyle that is like, somewhat de ZOGified. Some food is being generated on the farm, so they’re not eating just pure ZOG slop. They’re not gonna have to pay a giant jew mortgage, and they can home-school their kids in an environment with lots of young pro-White families with shared values. And the kids can grow up with other good stock, good families, you know, that are trusted and so on. So, like, that’s a very attractive arrangement for a life cycle to keep them within the movement.

 

But then also, if we build a big community centre on these, then we can have our conferences. We don’t have to go and rent some place out and they can do venue cancellations and shit like that! We can do it on our own property, we can manage our own security, so we can make it a very secure event and it can go as long as we want and we don’t have to pay extra to rent it out or they cancel it the last minute or the police show up and try and shut it down or any of this nonsense that you can deal with trying to organise big nationalist events. And that’s very important, to have these big events where we can have speeches and we can have big meetings and so on in the major cities.

 

So that’s part of the vision as well. Because a lot of people say, like:

 

“What’s the vision? You know, you just kind of marching around on the street and putting up stickers.”

 

And it’s well, that’s really, …

 

Thomas Sewell: It could be a social media issue. I think if they’ve only seen us on Twitter in recent time, then they think that’s all we do. I don’t really see that from the community on Telegram. Everyone on Telegram knows that we have this back end of our organisation, that we’re trying to build homesteads, that we’re trying to build living space for White people, we’re trying to build parallel institutions. We’ve been talking about this stuff for four or five years. That’s stuff that we’ve been working on. We’ve got a “mums and bubs” crew or club. The women are helping each other with an in-house daycare, lending each other help and services and stuff like that. We’ve got a huge back end community that we’ve built.

 

So, yeah, I only see that really on Twitter where people are like:

 

“Oh, but what’s actually the plan, guys? Where’s the money going, guys?”

 

And it’s like, we’ve explained it like 500 times, but we can explain it again. I’m happy to explain it again. Like, you know, gyms aren’t free! To set up a gym. It’s not free to set up any sort of business, or a studio to do this podcast professionally. If we professionalise something like this, the audience will become larger, the clips will become more mainstream. It just builds a gravity around it because it’s not like three dudes in their studies or spare bedrooms talking on kind of crappy webcams. So stuff like:

 

“Where’s the money going? Or where’s the money going to go?”

 

It’s well, it’s going to go everywhere. The more money there is, the more institutional power we can build that’s explicitly White nationalist.

 

And again, as I said, we’ve always started and centreed our two primary focus, or our three primary focuses would be the physical training element of it. We are an active club. That’s a big part of what we do, and it’s what’s held our community together for this long, is providing that as a service, like trying to maintain a masculine and health and fitness focus for young men. We’ve got the community model as well, the community building, so setting up kind of like little homesteads and having living space for people, because it’s unaffordable for most people to live in the major cities, and that’s where all the work is so we want to be able to work out a community solution to that problem.

 

And thirdly, we need propaganda. Not in any specific order. It’s not like that’s the third most important thing. That’s probably one of the most important things, but they’re all equally important. We need a home, we need a tribe. Tribe and train. And we need propaganda. We need stronger and better propaganda efforts. And we need to hire services as well. Like, none of this stuff is free. Once you’ve got a website, we’ve got a website up and running. It’s nothing flashy, but with more money, we can get a better website up and running, we can get better social media. We can have a social media manager, someone that works full-time doing that.

 

I mean, most people just go to work and they just work for ZOG, or they work for some subcontract of ZOG, or they work for some big corporation that’s a subcontractor of ZOG. And then it’s well, for nationalism to work, we need people that are working full-time doing nationalism. And you’ve got groups like the NJP, National Justice Party in America. I mean, they had like six guys. Say again, …

 

Joel Davis: They’re defunct now. They no longer exist.

 

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Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I know.

 

But what I’m saying is that these guys, they raised millions of dollars over the years. They paid off a whole bunch of their own mortgages, and then they just sort of, … I can understand the hesitation to support people like the three of us or the project that we’re building, because groups in the past, that’s how they behaved.

 

But I think if you look at the physionomy*. Do a physionomy check on the NJP guys and, …

 

[* Physiognomy or face reading is the practice of assessing a person’s character or personality from their outer appearance—especially the face. The term can also refer to the general appearance of a person, object, or terrain without reference to its implied characteristics—as in the physiognomy of an individual plant or of a plant community. Wikipedia]

 

Joel Davis: If we pick up a formal organisation, there’s ways to have transparency where like everything is recorded and accounted for. Like, if you become a member, like that gives you like rights to kind of, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, that would only be something for members, like people that are just spectating on the Internet. You don’t get to decide where the money goes.

 

Joel Davis: Exactly! The people who are supporters, there will be transparency for them.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, yeah. And there always has been in our organisation, everyone that’s been in our organisation, obviously that I saw someone in the comments, some other smarter saying:

 

“Oh, but someone stolen from you in the past.”

 

Well, again, that was not from a lack of transparency. That was just one, you know, disgusting little creature that was grifting on the internet and, …

 

Blair Cottrell: That was just from, that was excess Greekery! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, yeah. That individual, … They didn’t like physically steal money out of my bank account or out of the like, coffers of the Org. What they did was they had their own parallel social media and they used their parallel social media platform to extract money out of people in the wider community, pretending that they were raising money on my behalf.

 

Blair Cottrell: And there’s the lesson.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s literally illegal.

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s a threshold of Greekery that can be tolerated, but then you can’t go above that threshold or it just becomes dangerous and someone gets robbed. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: He was so Greek, he became jewish.

 

Thomas Sewell: If finances are centralised. But what my frustration with that whole situation was at the time that that was going on, we had three official fundraisers. We had a crypto fundraiser, a Monaro crypto fundraiser that was on our Telegram page. We had a GiveSendGo, and I have a PO Box if you want to send cash or books or gifts or whatever.

 

So we had three official fundraisers that were put up on all the official pages. That were put up on my page, all the other spokespeople of the Org’s page. But people were still sending money to the personal bank account of someone they knew was a member of our Org, on the basis that they were a member of the Org. But there was three official, …

 

So to me it’s, yeah, he’s a piece of shit for doing that. But also it’s pretty naive and stupid to be doing that was never, that was never publicly:

 

“Oh, by the way, if you want to donate money to the, pay it to this random member of our organisation.”

 

If any random member of our organisation messages you on social media saying:

 

“Hey, I’m raising money for the Org!”

 

I guarantee you they’re not! And report it to someone within the Org, that’s not that person, straight away! And we’ll fucking remove them on the spot! Because, yeah, it’ll never happen again.

 

Joel Davis: We weren’t defrauded. We weren’t stolen from. Like, technically it was stolen because it was money that people intended to give to the organisation. And so it was theft in that sense.

 

But really what it was fraud. It wasn’t direct theft.

 

So it wasn’t like:

 

“Oh, we don’t control our own money and we’re leaving the cash box in the hands of some scumbag. And what retards we are!”

 

It was like someone going around, sneaking around, presenting himself as a representative of the Org, soliciting donations.

 

So when people attacked us for that, it was like, if somebody had reported that to us earlier, that wouldn’t have happened. So, like we didn’t know that it was going on.

 

There’s a bunch of I think they’re like, pajeets. Maybe they’re Nigerians, but they’re probably pajeets on my Telegram. They’ll go into my Telegram chat, and then they’ll DM, they’ll create a fake account with my profile picture called Joel Davis, but it’ll be slightly different. And they’ll DM people and try and, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Instead of the “l” in Joel, it’s a capital “I” so, yeah, “JoeI Davis” Yeah, I’ve had them message me all the time.

 

Blair Cottrell: It just almost got me. Almost got me once. Like, my heart skipped a beat because I got a message from JoeI Davis just saying:

 

“Fuck you!”

 

And I was like, “what?”, that’s not the real Joel. Thank God! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, no!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but the point is that people come in:

 

“Surely this isn’t you, Joel?”

 

And it’s like, obviously it’s not me. You know? Like, why do you even, like, come in and alert. Like, there’s been about literally 2,000 people that have come into the chat. Like:

 

“Is this Joel? I don’t know if it’s Joel or not.”

 

And everyone’s like:

 

“No. For the 3,000,000th time!”

 

People need to use a little bit of discretion. You know when something’s obviously bullshit! But at the same time, like, it’s not my responsibility. What am I supposed to do about that? If you have an open Telegram chat and that happens? Like, I don’t actually know what I can do about that.

 

So it is what it is. I would have to have, like, no open Telegram chat would be the alternative, and people would get very upset by that.

 

So, yeah, I don’t think anyone has been dumb enough to fall for the scam. If you have, shame on you!

 

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Thomas Sewell: We’ve got so many ideas in the chat, I think we should change the subject. Or maybe we should address some of these ideas. Look, I’ll just do a blanket statement on ideas then. If you haven’t heard the rant already, we don’t need any more ideas. Okay? There’s a lot of people giving us ideas in the chat. We have all the ideas. We have all of them! We have at least 99% of all the ideas. We’re actually overloading with ideas.

 

Blair Cottrell: We have as many ideas as we have wholesome grandmas.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, [chuckling] exactly! And what we need is men to implement these ideas.

 

So I have a rule in the organisation, when someone comes to me with an idea, I say:

 

“When are you starting?”

 

That is the rule! Because I have been doing this for so long now, and I have so many people come to me with an idea. All I say is:

 

“When are you starting?”

 

Because I used to be like:

 

“Wow, that’s a great idea. Let’s sit down and let’s discuss this idea and let’s work out this idea!”

 

It’s like, no, I’ve already got, like, 50 things on my plate. And when some guy in the chat said:

 

“We should really capitalise on the housing crisis!”

 

Like, [chuckling] we’re not doing that?

 

Blair Cottrell: I love Jacob’s perspective. Jacob says:

 

“Prove your worth first!”

 

Jacob says:

 

“Fight for the ideology! Sacrifice, take blows, and then still stand with us after years of that, then I’ll hear what you have to say.”

 

I like that.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. We should be capitalizing on the housing crisis and spread propaganda and truth, how it’s caused by browns that will make the average Australian tick. It’s like, we just went to Bendigo and, well, we do the show every week and we talk about it every week. We post about it on Telegram and Twitter every week1

 

And also we’re doing in real life, rallies about mass deportations, doing speeches about how it’s causing us issues. And we don’t want these people in the country.

 

And on top of that, if that’s not enough, we also went to Bendigo just last weekend and handed out thousands, if not tens of thousands of flyers to all the people in Bendigo about how crime and housing is a problem, …

 

Blair Cottrell: How did that go, by the way? How did the people receive you?

 

Thomas Sewell: We talked about that last stream, didn’t we?

 

But, yeah, I can repeat it. It was good. It was awesome!

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know if we did discuss it on the stream last week, I think.

 

Blair Cottrell: I can’t remember covering it.

 

Joel Davis: But, yeah, it was actually really good! We’re all in NSN jackets. I wasn’t. I decided to be different because I’m me.

 

So I just had a different black jacket. I didn’t really think, … But everyone was in NSN jackets, and we had the EAM shirts on. We had these flyers that said “Whiteman Fight Back” on them. And we were going around handing them out to people. And I noticed a few things. One is that all the cutie girls took the flyer! They were like:

 

“Oh, yeah. Hey, thanks. Yeah, have a good day!”

 

Thomas Sewell: And the Zoommer boys.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the Zoomer boys. And then the more like Chad Dads and the boomer, the White boommer! Like, all the boomers are White, but like, the boomer granddads and the Chad Dads.

 

Thomas Sewell: And the gracious grandmas. Don’t forget the racist grandmas.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, they were all into it.

 

But then when it was like, the fat dads, the soy dads, they weren’t about it.

 

And then the soy male, like, left hard physiognomy, they were like:

 

“Oh, no, no, thanks!”

 

But physiognomy is very real. Just in that interaction, the ugly girls suck. Ugly girls, I’m changing from before, people accuse me of being a misogynist. Now I’m basically, what I am is I’m pro-hot chicks! And I’m anti-ugly chicks! I’m adapting. I think actually hot chicks are awesome! And it’s just the only problem is the ugly chicks. That’s my new view on women.

 

So you can debate that in the chat. Because I have noticed this time and time and time again, that hot chicks are so much more chill about racism, and ugly chicks are the only chicks that are really getting that offended by it. I’ve had countless experiences like this. So be that what it is.

 

Blair Cottrell: Why is that?

 

Thomas Sewell: Empathy.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know about the short answer. I don’t know if I can do short answers on questions like this, Blair. I guess maybe the short answer is this. Hot chicks do well in a society run by White men. Ugly chicks don’t do as well! Because all the White chads that run the society want to marry and bang all the hot chicks, or the White cuties and buy them nice houses and give them a nice life.

 

And then the ugly chicks are just kind of stuck with all the duds. Whereas, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Attractive women already have value and they don’t need to pander to things.

 

And so, like, less attractive women, they need to represent some sort of social justice value in order to seem valuable or useful to society.

 

Thomas Sewell: Attractive women find pity, disgusting! Attractive women hate pity! They find pity disgusting! So social justice doesn’t work.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s true. They won’t openly admit it. But yeah, women are kind of geared to despise weakness.

 

[1:15:19]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, attractive women. But unattractive women, they make a compromise with pity. They actually don’t have a negative relationship with pity. They’re okay with pity as a concept because they have insecurities. They actually want people to be okay with their issues and they pity themselves. So it’s a flow on effect.

 

So race mixing women, the majority of race mixing women do it out of low self esteem. That’s why they’re anti-racist. Because they’re actually worried that maybe they won’t get a nice boyfriend. They might not get a nice husband if they’re racist. Because they’re insecure about some genetic issue that they have. They always have a genetic issue. They might look semi-healthy on the surface but when you dive into it, there’s some serious genetic issue. Or at least an issue that flares up. It’s an issue that maybe flares up because of the toxic environment we’re living in. So it’s a cycle of poverty where they might have genes that are prone to, …

 

I’ll give you an example. I was at the shopping centre recently and there was a White girl. She was kind of average looking at best, with an Indian boyfriend. And they were at McDonald’s. Not Indian, but I don’t know, West Indies or something, he was brown but not black, but not Indian. Just some mulatto, right?

 

Blair Cottrell: What was wrong with the girl?

 

Thomas Sewell: She had really bad eczema. I had to walk past her and really sort of evaluate her. But she had really bad eczema. Really bad eczema. So she’s very insecure. She feels pity on herself. And so she’s not going to be prone to racism because she has some issues, some serious issue that she’s insecure about. She hasn’t worked out how to address it by changing her diet and exercise or environment. She might need to live in a different country or different region within a country. There’s something, you shouldn’t have, horrible eczema. That’s just you’re obviously doing something wrong. Right. If you’ve got a skin condition like that, move, live somewhere different where the climate’s different so your skin adapts to the better environment.

 

Blair Cottrell: Could be bad karma?

 

Thomas Sewell: It could be bad karma as well. Yeah, certainly.

 

But I think there are also just material reasons for it as well and I explain them. But what they do instead with a lot of these mental illnesses is they cope and say:

 

“Well, I’m accepting!”

 

Because if they’re accepting of other races, then other races are accepting of their bad genetic structure.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re more likely to be obese. They’re more likely to be low IQ. This is a fact. These are the statistics of women that race mix. They’re obese, they’re low IQ, they have genetic conditions, so they have organ issues, for example. They usually don’t finish high school. They usually become single moms.

 

Blair Cottrell: But even these women who have all of these genetic weaknesses, would it ethnically, racially, would they still stand higher than the people they choose to mix with? Or are we like casting off our genetic impurities and just spreading them amongst other races? So for that reason, …

 

Thomas Sewell: The trash is taking itself out. Civilisational mitosis is the final red pill. Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Also, that’s true about homosexuality and feminism and like, Leftists are disproportionately dysgenic. They’ve got all these kinds of genetic issues that predict for Leftism. Like, they basically have high mutational load and all these indicators correlate with that. And at the same time, they engage in a whole series of behaviours that are less fertile.

 

So they’re going to not pass down as much of their mutant genes, but the more Right-wing, conservative, patriotic, healthy Whites breed more.

 

So there’s a lot of these trends that are, yeah, the trash taking itself out is occurring. But the problem with that is that when you do miscegenation, you create these spiteful, mutant offspring that are going to be hostile towards the kind of politics that we want to put forward because ultimately they’re excluded from it. So they’re just creating enemies. They’re creating enemies. On that’s why I can’t be tolerated to the fullest extent possible.

 

But anyway, on the kind of ugly girl question, we live in a society where there are all of these artificial privileges and statuses that are assigned not on the basis of your inherent quality, your inherent health and vitality and value as a human being, but on the basis of your conformity to systems which ultimately have basically the function of destroying the White race and upending natural hierarchies and subverting natural hierarchies, blocking the vile, the healthy, the good, from taking over society. Because there’s this coalition of resentful mutants and racial aliens and so on that are ruling over us. So they’re doing a lot better.

 

It’s the same thing with, like whenever you see the communists organise an event, there isn’t one, Chad. There’s no one Giga Chad, communist. That doesn’t exist. There isn’t one! They’re all fucking ugly, soy, low test, pathetic losers, every single one of them!

 

And that’s why. Because if you’re an ugly, pathetic loser, you’re not going to do very well under fascism. Whereas, like, they’re able to kind of get a discount and gain social prestige and status and so on by signaling, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Only the weak argue for equality. Huh?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, the inferior.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! And there’s actually been a study on this, by the way, that they rated women by attractiveness. They got a whole bunch of men to rate, like, what is she, out of ten? And then collated the scores, and then they tested the women for political belief. And the hotter chicks were the most Right-wing. And the lower down the score, the more Left-wing they became.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

[1:21:17]

 

Joel Davis: So that’s scientific fact!

 

So what we’re saying here isn’t just cope like:

 

“Oh, you’re saying all the hot chicks are more predisposed to being Right-wing?”

 

No, it’s just actually a scientific fact.

 

Blair Cottrell: Curious segue. But I suppose what I was interested in, because I’ve got some political history, and Bendigo, close to my heart is Bendigo. And I was disappointed that I didn’t find the time to make it up there, to be honest. I wanted to go with you guys, but had to do some extra work. But my question, I suppose what I want to know is, what was the vibe like, Tom? Was there a similar feeling that used to be there years ago? Has it changed much? What was the vibe?

 

Thomas Sewell: I only encountered, or we only encountered, maybe a dozen men that were probably the young guys that were at the rally.

 

So most of the young guys we ran into were too young. They wouldn’t have been there. They would have been preteen, because it was so long ago. I mean, it was 2016, so it’s eight years ago, which is pretty scary to think about. But we ran into about a dozen men, in their thirties or really late twenties, and they might not have recognised. They probably would have recognised you. I don’t think they recognised me because I was kind of like a second or third speaker.

 

Blair Cottrell: You also missed out. You didn’t come to the first big rally there. You only came to the second. And just so the audience is aware, Bendigo was kind of a big datum point for Sewell and I in our, how should I describe it? In the way that we first came onto the scene through activism, and we generated a great deal of support through Bendigo. So that really put us on the map. That’s why Bendigo is kind of significant to us. It’s a historic Australian town. A lot of great culture there. But, yeah, the vibe?

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s centreed around., … To also give some back note to the audience, it centreed around an organic protest that evolved in Bendigo against a mosque being built. Because there was only on the census, I think, 16 or 17 Muslims in a town of 110,000 or 150,000. There was only 16 Muslims on the census.

 

Blair Cottrell: They were trying to build the largest mosque in the southern hemisphere there.

 

Thomas Sewell: In Australia, because there’s a bigger one in Indonesia. But they were trying to build a mega mosque, like, for 10,000 plus people in a town with 16 Muslims. And there was no transparency with the public! There was no transparency with the people of Bendigo. And these organic little groups were forming, but they had no real strong leadership. And Blair was organising the UPF [United Patriots Front] and primarily out of Melbourne, and we were doing rallies against far-Left treason and against the Islamisation of Australia. That’s what our, you know, it was a pro-Australian, anti-Islam and anti-traitor position.

 

And I wouldn’t have called us civn ats, but we certainly weren’t., … Were playing an optics game. We didn’t want to go full White nationalism. We didn’t think that people were ready for that. We wanted to focus on being pro-Australian, working class, and anti-Islam, and obviously anti-traitor as well, the Left.

 

Now, we went up there in support and tried to basically get all these little groups of people together. There was these kind of organic protests that were forming, and we had some huge turnouts. I think our biggest rally was maybe two and a half thousand people. We completely dwarfed the counter-protesters, and it was just all organic. No money, no media support, no nothing! Whereas they had everything. They had all the system behind them, and they could only, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It scared the shit out of the government, too. Scared the shit out of the government! We had big marches through the streets. Half the town was basically shut down, and we ended up gathering in a park just to actually keep the mass of people that we had acquired away from the centre of town to prevent disruption of businesses. That’s how big our rallies were there back in these days.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. So in saying that, there was a huge organic support from the public, and I think people still remember that, even if they don’t remember me personally, they remember that energy. I don’t think that disappears.

 

It’s like Cronulla. Everyone remembers Cronulla*. Even if you don’t remember the leaders or the individuals, there’s an energy, there’s an anonymity of the message, of the symbol of what that was. And those people are still in Bendigo. And the greatest support we got, because the Zoomers aren’t very serious. They’re all irony bros. They’re a strange generation. They’re not politically mature enough to really understand what’s going on, but they agree with it and support it, I think, at a subconscious level.

 

[* The 2005 Cronulla riots were a series of race riots in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. It began in the beachside suburb of Cronulla on 11 December, and spread over to additional suburbs the next few nights. The riots were triggered by an event the previous Sunday, when an altercation turned physical between a group of youths of Middle Eastern appearance (Lebos) and White Australian lifeguards on the beach. Wikipedia]

 

So with Zoomers, you’re kind of always tapping into the subconscious. There’s not really much of a conscious political conversation you can have with them. They, like, they just kind of FED post and say kind of ironic things and speak in their kind of mumble, mumble language. But the guys around our age, Blair, they remember, like, they were with quiet voices they came in close and they said:

 

“It’s getting out of control. The Whiteman’s got to fight back. Love what you guys are doing. This is awesome stuff!”

 

And a couple of them that I spoke to, they were there. They were present at the rallies. But the biggest support we got, and I know it’s a bit cliche, the biggest support we got and the biggest vibe that we had, or the general vibe, was actually from the Boomers, and which was surprising. I was actually shocked, genuinely shocked. The Boomers were the most supportive people. The Boomers and the Zoomers. The Boomers and the Zoomers!

 

[1:26:47]

 

Blair Cottrell: For different reasons. Like, it’s probably a genuine racism in the Boomers, but like you said, the Zoomer is more ironic.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Basically every single grandma, except the refugee grandmas. So there’s two types of grandmas, obviously, as I’ve explained on the show. But the fizz was incredible because we’re doing in real life activism, and we’re talking to people on the street, and we’re handing out flies on the street. Every old lady that had a normal haircut took the flyer, read the flyer, and said:

 

“Thank you!”

 

It literally came down to the haircut. Every grandma that had a shit haircut, that had a retarded purple haircut, they all just looked at us and was like:

 

“No, thanks.”

 

But every single, like, normal looking, wholesome grandma that has grandkids, like, a real grandma, not a refugee grandma, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Only the non-poisonous grandmas were friendly?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, the non-poisonous grandmas, they loved it! A couple of them, actually, at one point walked with me across the road with me and told me about how it’s getting out of out of control. And we’ve got all this on footage, so we’re just working out a way to sort of blur them and protect their identities so that they don’t get, like, attacked by Leftists, because these were some older women, they’re in their seventies and eighties, and they were basically saying:

 

“Thank you for what you’re doing.”

 

Like, it’s what all the Boomers had to say to us was:

 

“It’s getting out of control. Are you the guys that are going to do something about it? Are you the guys going to do? Are you going to do it?”

 

So it was really special. It was really awesome! And I want to do more of it.

 

Joel Davis: I was going up to people saying:

 

“Hey, I’m from the National Socialist Network. Can I interest you in a flyer?”

 

It was like:

 

“Hey, I’m a National Socialist. Here’s a flyer.”

 

Blair Cottrell: The standard Australian worker probably wouldn’t even really know what National Socialist was. They’ll know what Nazi is. But not everyone would actually understand what National Socialism is, so you’ve got that to your advantage there.

 

Joel Davis: Maybe we proved that there’s an optical valley to National Socialism.

 

But, yeah, we had some funny interactions. I went to one Boomer and handed him the flyer, and he just kind of took it. And I don’t think he was fully really paying attention. He just kind of took the flyer, and he looked at it, and then he read, said:

 

“Whiteman, fight back.”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Hey, mate, come back! Can I shake your hand?”

 

I was like:

 

“Yeah.”

 

And I shook his hand. And he’s like:

 

“Fuck the wokes! Fuck the wokes!”

 

Thomas Sewell: He’s like:

 

“This is a awesome!”

 

Joel Davis: And that was pretty cool!

 

And then, …

 

Thomas Sewell: There was another Boomer that you gave a flyer to, and he did the same thing. He kind of was:

 

“Oh, thanks, man.”

 

And just didn’t even look at it. And then you gave on to his wife. And then his wife was really interested! She’s like:

 

“Oh, yeah, this is awesome!”

 

And then we kept going because we were on the march. We’re kind of walking through. And then about five minutes later, he came charging up to us and was like:

 

“Can I have more of those? I’m gonna put them on my car! I’m gonna put them on the back of my car!”

 

Blair Cottrell: That was awesome! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Maybe you’d walked off by then. But he came back, that guy. He was in a cowboy hat or something, like a cattleman’s hat. Yeah, it was awesome! The vibe was good. The vibe was very good.

 

There was only really two antagonists. One was this fat soy boy in his twenties, and they were doing, like, a little Palestine rally. There was, like four or five of them on the corner. They were waving Palestinian flags. So he was like a social, alternative fucking estrogenic faggot. And he came over to us and he said, it was really funny. It was really, really funny. We got on camera and he said:

 

“I’ve got it on the tip of my tongue. I’m about to say it.”

 

Thomas Sewell: I’m like:

 

“All right. Like, what is it? What have you got to say, buddy?”

 

And he was like:

 

“I’m trying! I’m trying here!”

 

I’m like:

 

“Yeah, it’s okay. Like, we’re here. We’re waiting. We’re listening. It’s okay. Like, spit it out. It’s all right.”

 

And he was like:

 

“Ahh. Ugh, this is hard. This is really hard for me!”

 

I’m like:

 

“It’s all right. Just come on! Calm down. Relax. I’m not gonna hurt you. Just say what you gotta say.”

 

And he was like:

 

“Ahh! Umm, you guys! Your problem, Tom, is you protect paedophiles!”

 

And I was like:

 

“What! What the fuck are you talking about?”

 

Blair Cottrell: Where did he get that from?

 

Thomas Sewell: And he was like:

 

“Oh, not paedophiles. Sorry. Hebrophiles!”

 

And then he just, …

 

Blair Cottrell: You know what this is, Tom?

 

Thomas Sewell: And then he said, …

 

Blair Cottrell: , you know what this is? This is his programming, which is commanding him to scream abuse at you, conflicting with the fact that if he does scream abuse at you’re going to uppercut him. And he’s like, … [chuckling]

 

[1:30:55]

 

Thomas Sewell: Maybe. He was trying. He had a good try.

 

And then he was like:

 

“Anyway, that’s what I’ve got to say!”

 

And then he walked off, and was kind of chuffed with himself. And we were like:

 

“All right, all right, fair enough. Okay. Like, go away fatty.”

 

And then about ten minutes later this guy, and I hadn’t really properly processed this at the time, but I’ve had a lot of time to think about it since the weekend. He was wearing a Lego T-shirt. He was probably 55, 60 years old, fat as fuck, and he was wearing a Lego T-shirt and jeans. Yeah, he was really oestrogenic. And I think he was actually gay. He was running a Lego stand. He was kind of a closeted gay, like a secret gay. He was running a Lego stand. And we’d walked past maybe five or ten minutes earlier, and we’re handing out flyers and talking to people. And he came over and he said:

 

“I need you to go! I need you to leave1 I’ve called the police.”

 

And I said:

 

“I’m not going anywhere. Leave me alone. Like, go away. Like you’re causing an issue.”

 

And he was like:

 

“No, you need to go. You need to leave.”

 

And I was like:

 

“I’m standing here. Welcome to democracy, buddy. Go away!”

 

He started getting in my space, like, he started touching me and kind of elbowing me and I said:

 

“You’re a fucking professional victim, aren’t you? You’re looking to get hit, like you’re a piece of shit!”

 

He’s like:

 

“Oh, there’s no need to be aggressive, mate. There’s no need to be aggressive, mate!”

 

And he’s like, getting in my face and elbowing, elbowing the side of me just nudging me. And I kind of just gently kind of got him because I’m like:

 

“Fuck, I’ll kill this person accidentally if I hit him. So I’ll just move him away.”

 

And I just said:

 

“Go away. Like, you obviously, you don’t agree with us. You don’t support us. That’s cool. Go back to doing what’s important in life, which is Lego. Go back into your children’s toys. Go back to Lego.”

 

And he’s like:

 

“You guys feel special about yourselves marching around your uniforms. You’re a bunch of clowns!”

 

I’m like:

 

“Mate, you’re 60 years old. You’re in a Lego T-shirt!”

 

“I care about children!”

 

Blair Cottrell: What was that? Town in Queensland, that inland town in Queensland when we rallied. Toowoomba. What I did in Toowoomba, …

 

Thomas Sewell: In hindsight, honestly, we just need more of that. These people should be a little bit intimidated that we’re clearly not scary enough. The media make us out like we’re terrorists. If we really were these people wouldn’t come up to us and behave this way. So I think we need to be a little bit more scary because they’re so fucking annoying!

 

But anyway, this fat, oestrogenic faggot came over. He hassled. He kind of haggled us for five minutes, but we just kept handing out flyers. And one of his talking points was:

 

“Nobody agrees with you. Nobody supports you.”

 

And then we just hand out, like, ten flyers to a Zoomer crowd that go past. They’re all loving it. They’re like:

 

“Fuck Indians! We hate Indians! Kill them all!”

 

Like, Fed posting. And he’s like:

 

“Oh, no way!”

 

And then handing out flyers to all the hot chicks going past. And then two dads come over and start talking to us. And then another guy comes over and shakes our hand and he’s wearing military, what’s it called? Like, the military-surplus. He was a prepper or something. And he shook our hand. [chuckling] And it was funny as man, just seeing his morale drop the more people greeted us. And he was the only guy that was against us in the whole area.

 

So that was interesting to see.

 

But in hindsight, what I didn’t realise and what I should have said or asked was:

 

“Whose children are you doing Lego with? Because they’re not your own, are they, buddy?”

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: He was a fucking paedophile! He was a fucking faggot paedophile! And I want to know his name. I want to find out what his name is. And I want to make sure that the people of Bendigo know who this is.

 

Blair Cottrell: He might have just been a Lego enthusiast.

 

Thomas Sewell: No, no! He had a sinister energy.

 

Joel Davis: I thought he was just like one of the dads organising, like, a Lego day for the kids. Because at one point he was like:

 

“I’m just here trying to organise a Lego day for the kids here.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Why don’t you organise a fucking push-up day, you fat cunt?”

 

You know what I mean? [chuckling]

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s always the same physiognomy, though, man.

 

Joel Davis: But, an older other gentleman that was probably his gay lover that I just thought was one of the other dads or something.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes. They weren’t with their kids. I didn’t realise it at the time. I thought they were dads and I thought they had kids with them. But there were other people’s kids. They weren’t their kids. They were just two random volunteers that were friends with each other that were running a Lego stand in the middle of town.

 

And the more I think about it, the more I’m like, I’m pretty sure he was secretly gay. And I reckon he’s a sex offender. I reckon if I can find out the guy’s name and send it to all our colleagues in Bendigo. And Bendigo is not a big place. It’s maybe 100,000 people. I’m sure the people of Bendigo will be able to tell us whether the guy was a paedophile or not.

 

[1:35:24]

 

 

Joel Davis: I just want to say if you like the stream, retweet the stream. Even better, like and retweet and let’s get the views up. Promote the stream. We’re on Twitter. We’re taking over Twitter. Hail Elon Musk, hail our people! I just want to say that now. So we get the retweets juiced. But you can go back to calling out this pedo, because we need to find him.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s what we said earlier. Who has a problem with fascism? Who has a problem with a nationalist government taking over the state apparatus? Who will lose from that? Every single working White Australian and even people that aren’t working, people looking for work, every single White Australian that is not up to some nefarious act to betray the country and destroy it, has literally nothing to fear. They only have things to gain. They’re like:

 

“Oh, cool. Housing is cheaper, there’s less traffic. Like, the services work better. Everyone’s kind and polite. You don’t need to lock the door. You don’t need to worry about your safety.”

 

Like, the whole society is going to improve except for people trying to destroy the country. And people that are up to nefarious acts.

 

So if you’re a financial parasite, for example, like the people within the financial sector that are robbing the country and enslaving it through interest, debt slavery, the people that are profiting off selling off Australia and its assets, the people that are grooming children, the paedophiles, the whole industry, the whole LGBT industry. These people have something to lose. These people are going to be unearthed. These people are going to have the state apparatus used against them.

 

So that’s why they haggle us in the street. They don’t want us to succeed. They don’t want us to take power. But every normal, functioning human being in society is just like., … I mean, obviously if they’re brown, they’re usually functioning, but they have to go back.

 

But all the White people, they’re either neutral or they support us. They’re like:

 

“Oh, well, we’ll see if you guys take power!”

 

You know, they don’t believe it. They’re not believers. There’s a lot of people that don’t think we can do it, but we can do it. And we’re going to do it, and we’re going to show everyone.

 

And then after we win and the state apparatus is being used against the people that are trying to destroy the country, the country will suddenly work a lot better.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’ve got to will it into action, don’t you? What I wish I could will into action is the removal of LED lights! Does anyone else hate LED lights? Like, I feel like they’re damaging my eyes.

 

Thomas Sewell: You gotta remove the [words unclear] room first.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, yeah. And when I’m driving around on the street, I remember when I was young, car headlights, they just had this pleasant glow through them, but now they’re blinding! Now I’m squinting even at night while I’m driving, and I feel like my brain. I get headaches. My brain not shutting off. I’m not sleeping as easily as I used to, and I swear it’s LED lights, man. I think they’re really screwing with my eyes and my mind. It’s so sick of it! I don’t know if anyone else has the same experience, but.

 

Thomas Sewell: Hundred percent, 100%.

 

Blair Cottrell: So what’s next? Joel Davis?

 

So we got a new topic to move on to.

 

Joel Davis: We do. But I just wanted to tell one more funny story from the Bendigo thing, because I think the audience will enjoy this.

 

So there were there’s a couple little packs of Zoomer kids who loved us, and some of them may or may not. I cannot confirm more than I threw Romans. That would be illegal. But and, yeah, one of the boys may or may not have declared that he wanted to shoot Indians in the head and so on. There was a lot of based chatter.

 

Blair Cottrell: No! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the Zoomers were, … Talk about bad optics. Think we’re bad optics. The Zoomers were were making us look like a bunch of cuckservatives. You know what I mean? Some of the chat.

 

But there were this group of Zoomers, and they, like, walked off after we, like, spoke to them, and we handed them some flyers. And then they were all talking amongst themselves, and one of the guy’s girlfriend was down, and she was taking some pictures of us as we were doing things throughout the day, so she was a little bit further away, and she overheard them chattering. Like, the boys were like:

 

“Oh, let’s sign up. This would be sick! Like this is like the Aussie KKK! This is fucking based!”

 

One of the kids is like:

 

“Oh, I don’t know.”

 

And he’s like:

 

“What are you, a cuck?”

 

And they were like, full, like, so that was kind of cool like, to hear that report back. So, yeah, that was a cool story.

 

One thing I will say, though, about Bendigo, there’s a lot of surprisingly, it’s sad. There’s a lot of non-Whites there. We were only handing out flyers to White people, obviously. Like, but there was a lot of chinky there.

 

Thomas Sewell: There was one Asian, like, tourist that asked for one, and we were like:

 

“All right.”

 

We gave it to them.

 

Joel Davis: We gave them to all the White people and not to them, and they’re like:

 

“Can we please have one?”

 

We’re like:

 

“Okay.”

 

And then they, like, read it, and they just sat there.

 

[1:40:10]

 

Blair Cottrell: An Australian cultural experience for the Asian tourists. Like, they’ll tell that story when they go home. But Asians like to live amongst Whites, too, so they’re probably looking for the White racist areas.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, yeah.

 

There was an old man and a young kid that saluted us like a normal kind of military salute as we marched past, which was pretty. Well, we didn’t march past, as we walked past, which I thought was pretty funny.

 

Blair Cottrell: Tom, what is the standard Australian military salute? Is it the hand up or down?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, it’s like that. 45 degrees, right?

 

So when you wear a hat these two fingers here touch the brim of the hat. Like that. Yeah. And your arms kind of at that angle, like, at a 45 degree. Whereas the you know, the American salute like that. Yeah, we salute like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s more of an open handed. Almost like an honest salute.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And I think, though, the Germans saluted differently. Like, they kind of had the hand facing them before, like the Wehrmacht salute versus the SS salute, which is obviously the HH one.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: But salutes all mean the same thing metaphysically. I mean, it means, like, we get the word “hey” from hail, which is like, hail, like, hello, hey, hail, like, hail Hitler or hail Odin or whatever.

 

Like, to say hello, hey. All that stuff to throw the salute, to do the open hand, it all means the same thing. It’s all a gesture in good faith between White people. And we’ve been doing it for 10,000 plus years. And they’re never going to be able to get rid of it. Just the only difference between the National Socialist or the staunch Roman salute is its a very exaggerated version of just saying hello to people. You know, everyone does it. Like, when you’re driving your car and someone let’s you in, you, like, you give them a little hail, you give them a little wave. So all that it is a militant, staunch, like, there can be no question asked about the faith of the gesture. Obviously coming from someone that’s pro-White when you’re doing it with that straight arm. It’s a very nationalistic, masculine and staunch physical gesture.

 

That’s why it’s so important that we continue to fight it, which is actually going on at the moment in the courts. A little update is that the police have charged two of the young guys with performing it prior to, like Michael Nelson and Nathan Ball, prior to the salute ban. And they charged them not with doing the salute because it wasn’t illegal at a time, but they’ve charged them with public indecency. Which, if you read the law, it’s basically like showing your genitals in public or mooning someone. And they’re trying to correlate the Roman salute prior to the Roman salute ban being like, akin to mooning or showing of genitals in public.

 

So they’re fighting that in the courts at the moment, but they’re postponing the court date until after we get a result from Jacob’s hearing, which should be, I think, in two weeks.

 

Joel Davis: For those who don’t know, Jacob is being charged more directly under the Roman salute ban over throwing a Roman salute, allegedly.

 

So that’s a very important case because from our position, collectively, legally, and also, I think Jacob’s position legally in the case is that Australians have a constitutional right to free political communication. There’s been many, …

 

Blair Cottrell: An implied right. It’s not actually a right. It’s an implied right.

 

Joel Davis: Implied right. Regardless. Like that’s the High Court precedent, is that we have a right to free political communication in this country according to the High Court, which is the highest court in the land.

 

So we have it, according to the court. That’s just, …

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s true. And actually the way they argued I was guilty in my hate speech or intent to incite ridicule hate speech court battle, was that my speech was actually limiting the free political expression of others by making them feel offended or uncomfortable. Right. So they argued it from that angle, which was interesting.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s the same argument that they’re making with Jacob. I swear I talked about this on stream last week, but maybe I didn’t.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, maybe they’re using the same precedent as they did with my, it worked with me. They got a conviction, so they’re probably using the same method.

 

Joel Davis: Well, what we’re arguing is that, yeah, like the non-Whites, they’re too intimidated to exercise their right to free political communication because Jacob throwing a Roman salute is intimidating them into staying silent and, or something. Which is a totally absurd argument!

 

Blair Cottrell: They should have to provide evidence of that they should have to have witnesses and evidence for that.

 

Thomas Sewell: If it was a real court. [chuckling]

 

[1:44:54]

 

Joel Davis: It’s an absurd argument on its face. Like it’s an absolute joke!:

 

“Oh, so you can’t exercise your right to free political communication because other people might be upset by what you say and therefore not communicate their politics!”

 

That’s just absurd on its face! That’s not freedom of political communication. It’s inherently wrong.

 

But yeah, this is an important case. Because free speech is a very important case. There is going to be, I think the Libertarian Party, but they’re bringing in other people. They’re doing a protest, not a protest, kind of like a rally in Sydney, I think, on Saturday. Don’t quote me on that. It could be Sunday, but look it up, in Sydney. And they’re going to have a lot of big speakers. I think Craig Kelly is going to be there. Like mainstream populist Right and libertarian speakers are going to be there rallying against the Misinformation Disinformation Bill*.

 

[* A proposal for legislation designed to tackle online misinformation has seen Australia’s Federal Government come under fire from an unlikely alliance of critics, who have warned it constitutes a “chilling assault” on free speech in Australia.

The Communications Legislation Amendment (Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation) Bill 2024, which was introduced to Parliament last week by Communications Minister Michelle Rowland, would give the Australian Communications & Media Authority (ACMA) wide-ranging new powers to impose massive fines-up to 5% of global revenues-on social media platforms that allow the dissemination of misinformation and disinformation on their services. Claiming that misinformation and disinformation pose a “serious threat” to social cohesion and democracy, the legislation shifts responsibility for enforcing compliance onto the platforms hosting it, running the risk that corporations would put the protection of their bottom line above free speech and religious expression. Already in its second draught after an earlier version was universally condemned, including by the Australian Human Rights Commission, the updated legislation immediately came under ferocious attack by groups from all sides of public discourse. https://www.christiantoday.com/article/unlikely.alliance.forms.in.australia.over.fears.misinformation.bill.puts.free.speech.at.stake/142179.htm]

 

And obviously we’re not Libertarians. You know, we don’t support them politically. But on this issue we agree that they’re actually trying to provide some opposition to the bill.

 

And I encourage nationalists in Sydney to go down there and rub shoulders and maybe have a chat with some people, maybe be good networking opportunity for like minded people. I find lately it’s been very easy as a nationalist to talk to conservatives and libertarians. They’re much more open minded and receptive to hearing what I have to say than they were two years ago. Conservatives and libertarians are increasingly feeling that we’re on their side against the same enemy. Even if they don’t agree with us. I think we’re a little bit too extreme and too radical. Their attitude has shifted. Where before they really kind of like saw us as just like too crazy and that we were like a completely different category that they don’t associate with. I think now they’re feeling more like bunched up with us and more proximal to us.

 

And a lot of conservatives are just outright chill with us now. And that’s probably why we had such a chill reaction on the streets of Bendigo the other day and why no recent rallies that we’ve done have gone down a lot better, I think with the public.

 

Blair Cottrell: The normalisation of racism happening.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think that’s happening to a large extent.

 

But also, yeah, I think on this particular issue, the reason why they’re trying to censor the Internet is because they’re trying to shut us down! And people like us, like people with nationalist views. That’s the main reason! It’s not because they’re trying to shut down any of these other political ideologies. Like, yeah, they want to, they want to shut down certain other discourses they don’t like, critical of other government policies.

 

But the main number one priority is shutting down, quote, unquote “racism” and quote, unquote “anti-semitism”. That’s really what it really boils down to. And they’re trying to stand up and fight for our freedom of speech, our freedom to be racist, our freedom to advocate for our worldview.

 

And so we’re in alliance with them on this particular issue. We’re in a kind of free speech alliance de facto in Australian politics.

 

So we should go stand shoulder to shoulder with them and kind of create that camaraderie. Because that’s the message that I have to libertarians and conservatives. You might think that myself and Blair and Tom and people in our movement are too extreme or too radical for your taste, but we’re the fighters that are going to go and fight your enemies. The communists, the Marxists, the social liberals that have taken over not just the government, but all the kind of institutions of power in this country that are bringing in all these immigrants, that are destroying our culture, destroying our way of life, trying to teach the kids to be trans, teach them to hate Australia, trying to change the flag, change the national anthem, you know, give all the land back to the Aboriginals and all this crazy shit that they’re doing. We’re the guys that are going to go and take the fight to that enemy, which is your enemy, and you understand that’s your enemy.

 

So get out of our way at the very least, or maybe cheer us on going and kind of like taking the battle, being the Spearhead against all the political powers that be, that you hate and that you’re opposed to, that you recognise as your enemy. Like, we’re in this together in a certain sense. You need us. You need the radicals that are going to take the fight to them because frankly, the conservative movement, libertarian movement, you guys don’t have enough fight to really beat these guys. You don’t! You need a hardcore radical edge.

 

And that’s why the Left have won. Because the Left got out of its way of its communists, of its. Of its radical fringe. It allowed its radical fringe to take the charge, to lead the charge against the right for decades. They took over the universities, they infiltrated the Labour unions, they infiltrated the political parties. They got themselves in the media, all these different positions of power, and they push their agenda.

 

Because they got out the way of their radicals while conservatives and so on were canceling our radicals on the Right because we were bad optics or we were too extreme or whatever. They just ran over us!

 

So it’s time for you guys to take the shackles off the Nazis and let us fucking. Let us go at the enemy. Like we’re chained up in the backyard and we’re the pit bull, we just want to go and like bite the bone! [Blair laughing] you know, take the chain off. Let us go and bite these fucking commies!

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re worried, man. They’re worried that if we bite someone, we’re going to get put down. [chuckling]

 

[1:50:13]

 

Thomas Sewell: Before we move on from the Roman salute thing, I just wanted to read out. I’ve been helping them draught their submissions for the court. And one of the final points in the conclusion for their statements, I had, I’m just going to read it out to people because most people won’t actually watch the actual court case because it’ll be in a closed court or there won’t be the option for that. But what I’m helping them draught up was:

 

“To charge or convict White Australians for asserting their political rights in the face of foreigners asserting their foreign political issues.”

 

Because the context of their Roman salutes were, there was an Iranian protest in the city and they were aggravating the boys because obviously, you know, these fucking foreigners in our country, they assert their political so-called rights over us.

 

And anyway, the Roman salute was in retaliation. Well, not necessarily retaliation, but it was one group asserting their political rights, and then these two boys asserting their political rights. And one group got charged and the other didn’t. And you can guess who. But to finish that, I said:

 

“For them to assert their political rights in the face of foreigners creates a clear two tier policing and legal system, which ultimately establishes White Australians as Second Class citizens in their own country, whilst foreigners waving foreign flags become first class citizens who are allowed to offend with impunity.”

 

So they’ve actually done their homework, they’ve done a lot of work, and they’ve actually put together, they’re self representing, which at this level of court is fine to do it. Magistrates, you don’t need to get a lawyer. It’s a waste of money. They’ve already had five court dates and still nothing has happened. It’s still getting adjourned and pushed back.

 

So they’ve already saved themselves tens of thousands of dollars, which is very smart of them. And they’ve been doing their homework, and they’ve put together a very strong case for the history of the Roman salute. You know, the laws in regards to this, the precedents in regards to this, or the precinct cases. And also the fact that all part of living in a democracy or part of living in Victoria is you have to put up with other people you don’t agree with, and showing that these other groups do and say things that would be considered offensive by normal Australian standards.

 

Like, for example, the Aboriginals saying, you know, that Australia is going to be black in the future, or saying that they want to basically kill Whitey, or whatever their banner is supposed to say. And that none of these people have been charged. There’s no precedence that any Aboriginal has been charged for any of their offensive political demonstrations, which are against the sensibilities of all normal Australians.

 

And likewise, you know, there shouldn’t be a two tier system where White people should be charged for their political assertions. Which we obviously know there’s already precedents there. They’ve charged Blair and they obviously charged Neil Erikson and Chris Shortis with hurting the feelings of Muslims in 2017.*

 

[Far-right nationalists found guilty of inciting serious contempt for Muslims after mock beheading video. By James Oaten Topic: Courts and Trials Tuesday 5 September 2017 White nationalists found guilty of inciting serious contempt of Muslims (Louise Milligan) Three far-Right nationalists who staged a mock beheading to protest against the building of a mosque in Bendigo in central Victoria have been found guilty of inciting serious contempt of Muslims.

Blair Cottrell, Christopher Shortis and Neil Erikson have each been fined $2,000 after they filmed the beheading of a mannequin with a toy sword outside the Bendigo council offices in 2015. The so-called ‘Bendigo Three’ argued that their video, which was released on the United Patriot’s Front Facebook page, was an act of free speech that focused on a specific tenet of Islam. But the magistrate disagreed, arguing the video was clearly intended to create serious contempt for or ridicule of Muslims.

“We live in a community which is inclusive and that each individual deserves the right to live their life peacefully.”

Magistrate Peter Hardy said.

“You more than just crossed a line.”

It is the first time a criminal charge under Victoria’s Racial and Religious Tolerance Act has been tested in court. Other charges relating to damaging public property were struck out. The three men have since told the media that they intend to appeal the decision, saying they “expected” the outcome. Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-05/three-men-found-guilty-of-inciting-serious-contempt-for-muslims/8874804]

 

Joel Davis: I just want to say quickly, the details. The rally is Saturday, like this coming Saturday, the 28th in Sydney at Speaker’s Corner. 08:30 am. So get down there. I encourage you if you live in Sydney and I’d get down there on Saturday, go check it out. I think some of the boys would be down there. So you might meet some friendlies. You know, you might spot the [word unclear] of a seemingly co-White nationalist. It’s a chance to meet and greet at a neutral location and maybe have a chat also to the conservatives and the Libertarians down there. You could have some productive conversations and support the opposition to this Bill, which is a really bad Bill that’s going to negatively impact our ability to spread our ideas online and just our general online freedoms. So it’s good to see public opposition. And I think they’re going to do a rally in Melbourne, a similar outfit, a similar rally, I think not this weekend, but next weekend, but I guess we’ll talk about it on the show next week. I don’t know too many details about that one, so just want to put that out there. It’s important to be politically involved in issues like this.

 

I think free speech, our core engagement with the mainstream, the political mainstream is free speech issues, obviously anti-immigration and pro-deportation. Anything to do with those are like our kind of bread and butter. Like, one is like our core most core issue and which is just the demographics of the country.

 

And the other is like protecting our ability to advocate for ourselves, like in public and organise a political movement. You know, those are like really like the two most essential issues, I think, when we’re engaging with the political mainstream. So, I mean, there’s lots of other issues to concern ourselves with. So, yeah, that’s just my view on that.

 

Do you guys want to talk about, because, Blair, you did a Twitter space a few days ago and you were making, I think, an interesting point, which I think you should reiterate here on the stream. Where you were talking about how you think that excessive moralizing and ideological minutiae often gets in the way within the movement of focusing upon a clear and focused form of messaging that is just going to achieve maximum popularity and achieve maximum clarity of, who’s on our side, who’s against us.

 

And I thought you stated your case quite well. So I thought I was just going to invite you to reiterate that point. And it’s actually interesting. So, yeah, you want to jump into that?

 

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Blair Cottrell: I think I stated it so well it over the heads of a lot of my standard audience.

 

So for that reason, I just removed the replay because I wanted to articulate it better. I don’t expect I’ll articulate it as well as I want to now. It’s getting late in the night, and this is the time at which my brain starts to shut down, because I’m only slightly smarter than average. I’m not that smart. When I get tired, I go to average and below become like everybody else again. And I’m almost at that point now. [chuckling]

 

So look my observation was that we basically suffer from too much idealism. White people generally, we get tricked, misled, and have the scope of our reasoning powers severely limited by that idealism. An example of this is the equality concept. We all know you guys watching this show probably agree that human equality is ridiculous! But it doesn’t really matter how matter how ridiculous it is. It’s this kind of reality, this social programme that most people adhere to, even if they don’t agree with it, in order not to suffer social consequences, right?

 

But in contrast to our race, our ethnic community, we have the jewish community, jewish people. And they don’t have this long list of ideals and social values about justice and truth and morality that they’re in adherence to. They just have this singular ideal, one only. And that is the ideal of their own superiority over non-jews.

 

And the fact that non-jews exist only to serve them, or die, whatever. They don’t care, as long as they’re number one. That’s the ideal governing our enemy.

 

And you can see how we’re at a tremendous disadvantage if we’re going to allow ourselves to be severely limited, not just in belief and understanding, but also in action, in what we can actually do in order to effectively stand up to and overthrow this enemy, right? Because this enemy, to quote Churchill when he was speaking about the power the jewish communists had over Russia:

 

“This enemy has gripped us by the hair on our heads all around the world!”

 

And I think in order to fight this enemy, we need to understand that over moralizing, having too many ideals is going to restrict our reasoning powers and our ability to move. We need to be able to move in many different directions, and we need to be able to say whatever we need to say and do whatever we need to do in order to establish the kind of results, measurable results! Victories! And results in regards to securing our own existence, right? And that was the point that I was trying to make in the space. I thought that I could articulate it better, though.

 

And like I said, I don’t think I’ve done that good of a job now, either. I’ve got to think more about it because it all just comes down to what I always talk about, which is just having that singular, simple view of life, boiling everything down to that one us versus them dynamic. This is who we are. We’re defending that. We’re advancing that over there is who our enemy is, down with them.

 

And whatever you need to do in that process of building up your own community and sort of destroying or at least releasing yourself from the grip of your enemies, you do it. And what frustrates me, I suppose, is there’s a lot of things that members of our own ethnic community won’t do for moral reasons. You know, they won’t fight dirty enough.

 

For example, the jewish community, they’ll say that they support equality in our nations, but they won’t support equality in their own nation, right?

 

So they’ve got that ability to change their stance where necessary in order to put their enemies at disadvantage and then make their own position more advantageous to them in certain circumstances. I don’t want to get too much more into it for the time being, but, you know what I’m trying to say, right? We need to be able to do whatever we have to do to win! That’s what I’m trying to say. And if we’re going to be restricted to a certain scope of reasoning or activity as a result of morals, truth, justice, idealism, anything which restricts us too much, shouldn’t be taken into consideration. Or at the very most, we should pretend or ostensibly be seen to observe it. But then we’re not actually observing it. You understand what I mean by that?

 

The jews are very good at that as well. They pretend to observe our morals and traditions, for example. But then when you pay attention to what they’re actually doing, they’re not showing any respect whatsoever to our traditions and basic moral structure of society. They’re changing it from within.

 

So, yeah, something to think about, that’s all.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. The way I would phrase it is that politics is more fundamentally existential than it is moral. Like, politics is not there to decide over all moral questions. A lot of that is left to the domain of your personal life. The point of politics is to secure peace and security for your people.

 

Basically, the reason why we have to come together and form governments and form big societies is because we need a powerful entity to stand up for us against all the other potential powerful entities in this world that are going to come and take our shit and fuck us over. Because we live in a hostile world. There’s many other groups in this world that don’t give a shit about you. They don’t give a shit about your family, I don’t give a shit about your country. And they want to take as much from you and your people as they can.

 

And the reason why you need politics is so that you can have guys that are on your side that understand that our group, our people need to stand up and defend ourselves to protect what is ours from that hostile world.

 

So that’s what politics is about. It’s about securing a future, securing your way of life. It’s not about deciding on all these moral questions. So, like, for example, I see in my Telegram chat or on Twitter, like a basically endless argument, for example, between Christians and pagans that agree on White nationalism, and they get into this massive back and forth. And this is a very intellectually interesting debate. And it’s an important debate, like your personal decision, but whether you are a Christian or not, or a pagan or not, or whatever is actually very important, obviously.

 

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But when it gets to the point where you’re dividing the entire movement on the basis of this other issue, and therefore you’re dividing Whiteman power, you’re dividing pro-White resources, and you’re basically limiting our capacity to build the most powerful possible movement to defend our people’s interests, well, then it’s actually destroying the point of this. The point of this movement is securing a future for White people, and particularly in Australia, it’s for securing this future for White Australians and White Australia. That’s what this is about.

 

There’s other issues that are important, but they aren’t essential to that goal. And so there has to be a kind of marginalisation of things which aren’t essential to the political movement from the political movement where we can agree to disagree and work together upon securing a future for our people.

 

And obviously you’re going to go to, one group’s going to go to church, one group’s going to do whatever.

 

And once the ethno-state is secured and all enemy threats have been neutralised, then you guys can debate over are we going to have Christian White Australia or pagan White Australia or whatever? If you really want to.

 

But, you know, now is not the time for that. And there’s so much like ideological spurgery where people want to debate minutiae rather than getting done to the brass tacks of how the hell are we going to get manpower and resources organised to defend our fucking race? How are we going to make sure our race fucking survives?

 

And if you’re not operating on that level where that’s the main focus of what you care about and what you’re doing when you’re in the White nationalist movement online, if instead you’re going on in the White nationalist movement online and all you’re doing is engaging in e-drama against other White nationalists and picking fights over like, dumb shit and arguing over, yeah, as I said, ideological minutiae or whatever, that is tangential to the essential points of how we’re going to progress the movement, how are we going to advance our people, then like, what the fuck are you doing? You’re not in the White nationalist movement. You’re not actually engaging in politics per se. You’re just like, hanging out on the Internet, getting into frivolous arguments.

 

So that’s something that’s very important, I think, where we must focus upon the core, as Blair said, like, who are we? Who are we against? And how are we going to advance our cause against the enemy and just be like, very single mindedly focused upon those objectives. And if we can get our attention and focus on those objectives and our money and time focus on those objectives, then we have a fucking chance of surviving as a race. But otherwise we’re just going to be having these dumb spurgy arguments for the 4,000,000th time on the:

 

“Oh, all pagans are jews, all Christians are jews!”

 

Or whatever.

 

Blair Cottrell: All we have to do is survive, …

 

Joel Davis: Calling each other jewish, communist. And it’s like, what the fuck are we doing here? You know what I mean?

 

Blair Cottrell: The simple nature of our struggle too, is all we have to do is survive. I think I said it on last stream, or the stream before that we’re a race that so long as we survive in our most basic form and we don’t become overly diluted, if we have the same opportunity to procreate, flourish, then we eventually adapt, win, overcome. We become master of the world. That’s why there’s such a strong genocide effort against our race right now. Because in order to win against White people, you need to ethnically destroy them. If you don’t, they eventually rise, win, adapt, and become master of the world again. So all we have to do is survive as a race, and by default we end up winning as a result of our own genetic predisposition.

 

Joel Davis: And like, I understand that a lot of these arguments are actually important, and there’s a space for them. Like, if there’s intellectual content creators and there’s an intellectual, and I engage in that sometimes as well. But we have to learn how to bracket that from the political, that, like, we can have that argument in the intellectual space of the free marketplace of ideas, and we can debate these subjects, but we need to be able to bracket the political friend-enemy distinction from that and say:

 

“Well, at the end of the day, I don’t agree with this person on this issue and that issue, but we need to have some kind of coordination or some kind of allegiance or loyalty to one another if we’re going to get out of this as a race.”

 

Because if we have, like, every different ideological sub faction and religious sub faction and so on splintering off and doing their own thing, that isn’t going to cut it. We need to be pro-White first and foremost. That has to be the essential principle of the movement. Race has to be the foundation. That’s the only foundation which is the correct foundation!

 

First of all, because we are being attacked as a race by the enemy. Fundamentally, the enemy is coming after us because of our race, not because of any of these other details. And they’re coming after us as a race. So we have to defend ourselves as a race.

 

But secondarily, race is the only principle which is going to be strong enough to build a political movement around to resist this.

 

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Blair Cottrell: It’s because it’s the most integral, fundamental identity that you can use to identify yourself, right? Like Christian, pagan, Catholic, Protestant, and various other social political identities they’re all just abstract. They exist inside your mind and you can change them tomorrow. Like, I can wake up tomorrow and decide I’m going to be Catholic. I can wake up tomorrow and decide that I’m going to be Protestant of some degree. But I can’t wake up tomorrow and decide I’m going to be black, or a different race. I’m like, genetically this race. This is who I am, and it’s a result of hundreds, thousands of years of survival, through my family lineage, and that is my most fundamental identity, as is the same for you if you’re watching this stream. So you’ve really got to boil it down to that, because that’s the most important fundamental identity that you can have the understanding of, right? That’s who you are.

 

Joel Davis: It also, like these other things are important. Religion and everything is important, but as a principle of unity, because politics is a team sport, politics it’s not a individual sport. You know MMA is a sport for individuals. Like, you need a team to train with and stuff, but politics is a team sport. You need a big team. If you try to play a team sport with not enough players against a full strength team, you get smacked. That’s why if you play soccer and half your team gets red carded, well, you’re going to lose. You know, if it’s five to eleven, you’re going to lose.

 

And White people are playing like, one vs eleven because everyone wants to be an individual and we’re so atomized, but then also we’re like, intellectually atomized and so on. And we have to just at the end of the day, be, we’re on the same team. You don’t have to like everyone on your team. You don’t actually have to like everyone on your team. You can think there’s a bunch of people on your team that are shit people and they’re fucking retards! But they’re on your fucking team! And we win as a team or we lose as a team. Like, White people win as a race or we lose as a race. That’s how this is going to go down.

 

So we need to play as a team to the fullest extent possible.

 

And then, yeah, once we win, then we can go back to fucking our disputes and differences and so on. And they are totally legitimate disputes and differences. Like, I’m not denying their importance, but we are born into a time in history of race war. Race war is already happening. Like, the race war isn’t going to happen at some point.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s arguably been a constant for known human history.

 

Joel Davis: Well, yeah. We are born into a race war. Like, the invaders are in our country, the shit skins are raping the women, they’re breeding with our tribe, they’re taking over our institutions. You know, the jews are controlling the banks, they’re controlling the media, they’re controlling the government. They’ve got all that third world invaders taking all these positions of power and all the systems in place to elevate them to rule over us. Like, we’re already being occupied by, like, alien forces that are systematically using state repression to prevent us from organising. Like, the race war is already here. You’re in a race war!

 

So it’s like you can have all your arguments about everything else, but it’s like, do you want to fucking win or lose? I want my grandchildren to not be a persecuted minority in the land that their forefathers built. I want them to actually have protection. I want them to have their own country that’s going to take care of them.

 

So that’s what this is about! And a lot of people somehow managed to lose sight of that. And it’s actually quite frustrating.

 

I don’t know if you have thoughts on this, Tom.

 

Thomas Sewell: I’ve expressed my feelings on this many times on the show, and I don’t really want to repeat myself. To have a sort of fresh, fresh eyes on its a very good point this idea that it’s a team sport, we’ve got to stop thinking about it as individuals. Lot of people that just want to be left alone, and you need to take your politics to its logical conclusion. You can be left alone for now and maybe next year, and the year after and the year after, but you’re just kicking the can down the road.

 

At some point, we need to solve the problem. There is a problem, an existential problem, or a problem for the existence of our people, and we are slowly becoming a minority in our countries, and we have to put a stop to that! And we’re in a stronger position to put a stuff to it now, rather than later.

 

So let’s deal with it now!

 

Anyone that’s like:

 

“Oh, well, actually, I’m going to stay as embedded in the system as possible and I might send a Superchat and yeah, I’ll consume content, but, yeah, like, I’ll just I’ll just keep working on my career. And that’s the priority because then I can pay for my 2.5 kids and a Labrador in a city.”

 

It’s like:

 

“Okay, and then what are your kids gonna do?”

 

And really disagree fundamentally with the strategy, the life strategy of:

 

“Well, we’ll just build the tower taller and then we won’t have to smell the shit!”

 

It’s like, no, let’s just clean up the shit! Like, let’s just solve the problem. And then your children, whatever they do in life, they’re gonna just kick goals, they’re gonna succeed, they’re gonna be winning, because they’re going to be growing up in a healthy society, and that’s just not the future that’s destined for them on the current trajectory.

 

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So we have to be radical in changing that trajectory and not giving a fuck about what traitors and faggots and weaklings think about how we should change it.

 

So in summary, it comes down to a triumph of the will. It comes down to, as an individual, are you subject to or subject of this society, or are you going to contribute to building a better society?

 

And I think that’s really what it comes down to, this master and slave morality. If you have a slave morality, then you’re subject to society’s whims. You know, if it’s socially acceptable to be X or Y or Z, then you’ll do it, because it’s socially acceptable:

 

“It’s not socially acceptable the moment to be a Nazi!”

 

It’s like, well, it’s fucking never going to be with that attitude!

 

So why don’t you just stop caring about what it is or isn’t to be socially acceptable in a society that glorifies faggots and traitors and fucking merchants! That’s the faggot society we live in. It glorifies that shit! Why don’t you not care about that? Why don’t you have a solar morality, or a master morality where it’s:

 

“Well, actually I value these things. I value integrity. I value honour, I value our race, I value our culture, I value our heritage. I don’t actually care about society’s values. It’s society that needs to change, not me!”

 

And when you bring that attitude to the table now, you’re more committed to solving the problem.

 

And what I’ll finish with is Western Chauvinist, if you don’t follow them already on Telegram or Twitter, you should. Western Chauvinist shared something today that was a good summary of what all the critics have of us and our model and our worldview. And it’s in quotation marks:

 

“You think you’re going to win by meeting up with guys to box in the park?”

 

End quotation mark. And what Western Chauvinist replies to this is he says:

 

“No, I think we’re going to win by organising. You can’t organise seriously with a bunch of risk adverse, conflict avoidant podcast fans. If someone will meet in the park to train with you, they’re infinitely more committed to the cause than someone who sends Superchats to their preferred online hot taker. If your entire connection to the cause can be cut off by your phone running out of battery, you’re not doing anything.”

 

And that’s what I’ll finish on. That’s where power comes from small groups of men and their families banding together and forming local community. They’re only able to do the kind of shit they’re doing to us at the moment, like the horrible treatment that they’re having of us, because we’re atomized.

 

Despite the fact that we’re still a majority in our own country, we’re an atomized majority! We’re an alienated majority! We don’t have community that is 100% clear as to what its community purpose is. We have all these sub communities within the White race. We have Richmond Football Club or Carlton Football Club. We have the Diggers Club or the RSL. We have the Rotary Club. We have, you know, it just infinite White people clubs. Infinite White people clubs, but none of them are explicitly White. We have infinite White people clubs, but also zero White people clubs! Because they’re not explicit.

 

So for us to secure an existence for our people, a future for our children, we have to make explicit organisations that stand on that bedrock of race! And be unafraid and confrontational and prepared to bear the brunt of that.

 

So when you go down that path, you will initially lose. When you go down that path, so lose is the wrong word. You will initially have loss. And that’s what everyone’s afraid of that’s why people don’t want to do it, because you’re afraid of that initial loss. I understand that loss is not nice. But to grow, you have to have trauma. To grow, you have to have stress.

 

Blair Cottrell: You only, like doctrine is written in blood. You only actually learn by losing, adapting, and sort of growing as a result. If you never lose, you never learn anything. And you never actually develop the necessary adaptations to prevent yourself from losing in that same way again.

 

And so the more we lose, the stronger we get.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, you will lose family. You will lose friends. You will lose privileges. You will lose maybe extra income. You know, you will lose career prospects. You will initially have loss. And those losses will be a sacrifice. They will all add up.

 

But it’s highly unlikely that 99.9% of you, while things are still peaceful, are going to be killed. You’re actually more likely to die in a car crash than from being a nationalist. So far, we haven’t had a single nationalist in Australia this decade assassinated. Not one! We’ve had one terrorist attack against us, one serious one, and a few minor ones. But these are publicly facing spokespeople. We’re not asking anyone to do that. We’re asking for men to stand with us in the street and to be part of our community and for our wives to know your wives and for our kids to grow up together so that they’re not growing up around all the freaks in society. You know, we’re trying to build. That’s what we mean by parallel community.

 

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So, yeah, we’re at the Spearhead, we’re at the vanguard. We’re at the forefront. But there is no reason why you can’t be in a supporting role with that.

 

But in the absence of that, as I said earlier in the show, we are trying to build a way to incorporate more people into the broader, another ring or another circle to our movement. If we’ve got a kind of inner circle and an outer circle, we’re building another circle, a supportive circle.

 

But that is still, like, what we really need more than just money and finances to push the movement into the next area that it needs to go, which is more professional, more facilities. We need support in managing the whole operation as well, financial support. What we need also is people to come to events.

 

So we have all of our community meetings, we have all of our protests, stuff like this. We understand if people want to be risk averse to that, but we need people to come out in person, in real life, to events, whether they be ticketed events, whether they be like, once or twice a year at a national meetup. We’re not asking you to necessarily be in black block and march in the street with us. We understand that the apprehension for some people to do that, for a lot of people to do that.

 

But, you know, it would be good to have you on the mailing list. It would be good to be able to send you guys stuff, physical stuff that we can produce, when we’ve got all that sort of stuff set up, of showing you what we’ve done, like progress reports, monthly reports of:

 

“Hey, this is what we’ve done. This is the activism we did. This is the training we did, this is the meetups we did.”

 

Stuff like that would be awesome to have in order to continue to build community.

 

And then when we do have these events, you can be actually there, you can be present, you can be a live listener.

 

And then that in itself, even if it’s just a photo of the back of your head, in a crowd of 100 or 200 or 300 or 500 people, that in itself encourages other people to get involved at different levels, at different capacities. So your sacrifice, what you risk and what you sacrifice, actually pays into a spiritual fund. I know this sounds a bit ridiculous, but your sacrifice, everything you lose, it actually contributes ultimately to our victory. Because when enough people have sacrificed enough, then we win. And it’s going to take a lot of men and a lot of families and a lot of sacrifice, a lot of time, a lot of blood, sweat and tears to get where we need to go. I’ll finish there.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think we should maybe start getting into the Superchats. Cause we’ve been going for a while now.

 

But my final thoughts on this. You know, one of the main criticisms that we get is that we refer to ourselves as National Socialists ideologically. And the view is that people would be willing to organise around White nationalism, but National Socialism freaks people out or something. This is the argument. And my response to that is that I think, and we think, that until National Socialism is seen as something positive for a large portion of the community, they will be too cucked to actually organise a revolutionary, pro-White movement, because of all the things that are bound up with that.

 

Now, I can understand you say:

 

“Should we use the swastika as a symbol?”

 

And these are all like interesting arguments or whatever, but as a basic point, if you are willing to put your race first and organise around on the basis of race, you are going to at the very least, be kind of open minded to the idea that National Socialism is a good idea. You’re not going to be freaked out like:

 

“That’s a horrible, evil thing!”

 

But also additionally, the main way in which people get freaked out that being a pro-White or being White nationalist is a horrible, evil thing is implicit in this argument is through its association to National Socialism. So that means we’re going to have to do some work to try and give National Socialism a new meaning and a difference of perspective in the community. We have to do some work to normalise National Socialism.

 

We’re going to have to do some work, get people comfortable with and supportive of National Socialism to break that spell! Because that spectre is still going to be there. Like, if you make, if we make an organisation, it’s purely just called “White nationalists”. It’s purely White nationalists. There’s no explicit association with National Socialists. You’re going to get called Nazis! And there’s going to be this spectre of:

 

“Well, what do you think about Hitler and the Holocaust?”

 

And like, this whole thing is still going to be like this spectre, like lingering over the movement that you can’t step over.

 

And if you basically refuse to then go out and actually defend National Socialism or talk about it in a positive light and just try and avoid, avoid, avoid, avoid, avoid! That thing is going to stay there. It’s going to be this thing hanging over your head entirely, and you’re doing absolutely nothing to fight back against it or break the spell, because you’re afraid of breaking the spell because you think that:

 

“Well, that’s extra work if we have to break the spell and advance White nationalism. Now we’re doing two things. Wouldn’t it just be easier if we could just advance White nationalism?”

 

And it’s like, no! We actually have to break the spell. I don’t think we’re actually going to be able to get there without doing some spell-breaking.

 

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So that’s why we’re taking the hard road of breaking the spell. But we’re creating a new brand of White nationalism. It’s going to be this Australian 21st century. It’s not a copy and paste. We don’t have the same uniformity. We have a lot of differences with our own personality. We’re going to do a new form of this. And, yeah, we’re going to talk about what we like, about what the Germans did and so on, but it’s going to be our version, it’s going to be different, and it has our characteristics. And as it grows, it’s going to have all these very 21st century Australian characteristics, because we’re very 21st century Australians. If, you know, us, you see us, we’re kind of normal Aussie guys. We’re nothing doing like this German larp on the basis of some German fetishism. But we do take inspiration from that movement, because within European, and particularly Germanic, and we’re a Germanic nation. We’re not a German nation, but we’re a Germanic people. A Celto-Germanic people. The Australian nation, in its core.

 

The one political ideology that stood up to liberalism and communism successfully was National Socialism! There isn’t actually another ideology in the modern world that has done that.

 

So that’s why we’re taking our cues from that, because that’s what we’re trying to do here, because we see these two other option ideologies as both ideologies that are trying to genocide our fucking race!

 

So that’s what’s happening.

 

So to me, like, that’s our position. You might disagree, but deal with that particular argument. The argument that we’re always. I’m always hearing is that if we just step over National Socialism and pretend it doesn’t exist and say that we aren’t Nazis and just completely avoid the subject, that somehow, by magic, this will prevent us from having to defend ourselves from the accusations or deal with the subject of National Socialism in any capacity. You’re not going to be able to do that. Sorry!

 

So we’re going to have to normalise this.

 

That’s why it’s so good! Hitler’s going viral on TikTok. And people are making videos about World War Two revisionism, and David Irving and his books need to be promoted. And we need to talk about these things we talked about, like the Tucker Carlson interview the other day with the revisionist historian and so on. This stuff is also fucking important because we need to break the spell and we need to put all of our energy behind breaking the spell. And White people need to develop a positive view of Adolf Hitler en masse. They need to develop a positive view of National Socialism. You then have to become necessarily ideological National Socialists. They need to develop a positive view, or at least a neutral view and a kind of more objective view. Where right now no one is even really doing that except for us on the fringe because of this spell.

 

So we’re trying to break that spell. We’re trying to present a form of National Socialism contemporary in the modern day to, for people to relate to and support. And that’s one of the key ways in which that spell is going to be broken. So that’s what I have to say about that.

 

If you want to say something about that, Tom, you can. Otherwise we’ll get into the Superchats.

 

Thomas Sewell: No, I think it’s being covered. We should go into the Superchats.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So Rose Rock.

 

Thomas Sewell: Let’s do the first one.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Rose Rock 444 said:

 

“Why do you support Fuentes? He pushes inceldom and finds non-White women more attractive than White women. Not to mention he simps for nons like Candace Owens and Muslims.”

 

I have a suspicion that Rose Rock 444 is a woman. I don’t know, but we.

 

Thomas Sewell: How out of touch is that commentary, though?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, if you watch the show last week. I’ve listened into a few of Fuentes’s shows this week and he basically talks shit about me in every single episode.

 

So we’re not exactly getting along so great lately. But yeah I don’t know, whatever comments that he made about non-White women being more attractive or not, that’s not really, … The substance of our disagreement is about political strategy. I don’t know. All the comments that he’s made on all of these subjects. Simping for Candace Owens was pretty cringe, though. I remember seeing that.

 

Warbow 84, said:

 

“Here’s my $20. Great show. See you guys next week.”

 

Thanks, man. Ghost dog Man’s did like one of, like the little o’s with like, the slash, like throwing a Roman. Fellow Comrade said:

 

“Here’s my $200 for the week. Spend it wisely.”

 

But he only sent $1, so I don’t know.

 

Blair Cottrell: What does he mean by that? I saw that earlier. I thought, what does he mean by that?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, you owe me $199, dude!

 

Blair Cottrell: By the end of the week, too. By the end of the week. You have to be man of your word in this stream, bro.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I think he probably just clicked the wrong button.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t know. Ferryman 47. I don’t know if that’s Ferryman as in from Ferryman’s Toll in Canada, but friend of the show. He sent $14. He said:

 

“Cheers, boys!”

 

Duke of Meme said:

 

“I was not full blown White nationalist until you said, you want to ban LED lights, Blair, please take complete control of Australia!”

 

There you go. You won someone over.

 

[2:29:18]

 

 

Blair Cottrell: Don’t worry, I hate them enough to actually implicate an immediate ban if I’m ever in a position to do so.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Adolf Caesar said:

 

“Good evening, White men. Do we have any NS literature from Australia?”

 

I’m not sure if there’s explicit ideologically National Socialist literature that is from Australia. There’s a lot of White nationalist literature. I don’t know. Tom, are you aware of anything that’s explicitly NS, that’s been written?

 

Blair Cottrell: I have a feeling there’s something, but nothing’s coming to mind immediately.

 

Thomas Sewell: First thing that came to mind wasn’t explicitly National Socialist, but interestingly, some of the first works done at the beginning of the 20th century on neo-Paganism was done by an Australian, and he actually went and visited the fascists and National Socialists in Europe, as Alexander Rud Mills*. So that’s sort of proto-NS stuff.

 

But, yeah, I can’t really think of anything. I mean, Jacob would know. I mean, there’s a lot of Australiana literature that is pretty close. I mean, Jack Lang** wrote pretty similar.

 

[* Alexander Rud Mills was an Australian barrister and writer, interned in 1942 for his National Socialist sympathies and fascist beliefs. He was also a prominent Odinist, one of the earliest proponents of the rebirth of Germanic Neopaganism in the 20th century, and an anti-semite. He founded the First Anglecyn Church of Odin in Melbourne in 1936. He published under his own name and the pen-names “Tasman Forth” and “Justinian”. Wikipedia]

[** John Thomas Lang (21 December 1876 – 27 September 1975), usually referred to as J. Lang during his career and familiarly known as “Jack” and nicknamed “The Big Fella”, was an Australian politician, mainly for the New South Wales Branch of the Labor Party. He twice served as the 23rd Premier of New South Wales from 1925 to 1927 and again from 1930 to 1932. He was dismissed by the Governor of New South Wales, Sir Philip Game, at the climax of the 1932 constitutional crisis and resoundingly lost the resulting election and subsequent elections as Leader of the Opposition. He later formed Lang Labour that contested federal and state elections and was briefly a member of the Australian House of Representatives. Wikipedia]

Joel Davis: Jack Lang was a little bit more like of a liberal socialist that was also a White nationalist.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. It’s all sort of proto-National Socialist stuff. I wouldn’t say it’s explicitly like post World War Two. I can’t think of anyone post World War Two, any Australian that stands out in terms of National Socialist literature.

 

Joel Davis: Well, I’ll be, I’ll be writing some. So there you go. You’ll get some from Joel Davis. I’m cooking things up. I got a lot of draughts, and I’ll start putting some things out in short order. Eventually, I will write a book. I’ve been cooking ideas up for many years.

 

So, yeah, you’ll get some. Joel Davis, Australian NS literature. So there you go. Keep an eye out for that.

 

Thomas Sewell: I wrote two draughts, a fiction and a nonfiction book when I was in prison. I just don’t find it, I don’t think it’s appropriate to publish. I want to do something better. So I’ll either rework it or I’ll write something else from scratch. But my book projects definitely on the back burner. I’m focusing on just putting a roof over our heads as a movement. And for my own family to begin. And things like books, I think they can age better with time.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I know that as I get older, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I’m not rushing it.

 

Joel Davis: I’ll become more and more of a writer and speaker, intellectual type, and it won’t be doing as much on the ground work on the streets. You know, at some point you get, when you’re an old man, that’s kind of like your main thing that you can do because you’re just old and old! So but that doesn’t mean I’m going to wait till then to get started.

 

Ethan 4BD1 said:

 

“Australia for the Whiteman. Destroy pedo freaks!”

 

Indeed. And Leviran, or, yeah, Leviran said:

 

“If you are watching this and you’re under 30 years old and you haven’t joined a nationalist organisation to serve your people, then you are a pussy! Australia for the Whiteman and Reclaim America!”

 

I think Reclaim America is like a Patriot Front slogan. So maybe he is a Patriot Front, bro.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Why at 30?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. If you’re in your early thirties, you can still join, or even late thirties. I mean, we have guys that are in their forties in the Org.

 

Blair Cottrell: Is 30 old? Why, is that what’s being implied, that 30s old?

 

Thomas Sewell: Our oldest member is 64, and our oldest supporter, I think, is 74.

 

So, yeah, there’s no excuse. I don’t think age is a factor. It just, age to me just means there’s so many different cliques, social cliques within our Org and within the wider movement. Age is not a determining factor as to whether you should join or not. Age is just a factor of what you participate in and what you can participate in. You know, you might not be doing Muay Thai at the park, but you can man the barbecue and hang out with the other old guys. Like, there’s not really any excuse. There’s a place for everyone.

 

Like, not everyone, obviously. Like, we don’t want the scum and filth of society, but there’s a place for every, like, honourable Whiteman and his family in our organisation, no matter how old you are. Yeah, I would say we don’t recruit anyone under the age of 16 just because of the maturity level.

 

The majority of 15 year old boys are just not politically mature enough to take this seriously. It’s usually irony. But, yeah, we’ve got guys in their late teens and they’re obviously always keen as mustard because there’s genius, not just genius in the youth, but there is energy in the youth. The youth have a natural, … I think it’s Kurt Eggers*. Kurt Eggers talks about it. He was a National Socialist. He was a high ranking officer and part of the propaganda department as well. And he actually died in combat. He actually asked to be sent back to the front lines.

 

[* Kurt Eggers (10 November 1905 – 12 August 1943) War correspondent and writer (1905-1943) Kurt Eggers was a German writer, poet, songwriter, and playwright with close links to the Nazi Party. He served as both a member of a propaganda company and as a Waffen-SS soldier at the rank of Mann in World War II, he was killed while serving in a tank regiment on the Eastern Front by the Red Army. He had four children by his second wife, Traute Kaiser, whose father was a pastor. Wikipedia]

 

And I think he died in the battle of Kursk. But he was a tank commander and he dropped out. Not dropped out of school, but during the summer holidays. He actually went and fought in the Freikorps* when he was 13 years old. And he actually writes about how the youth have a natural instinct. The more masculine boys have an instinct of what’s right, what’s wrong. They have a moral strength to do, to do righteous duty. And in his case, in Egger’s case, it was killing communists.

 

[* Freikorps (German “Free Corps” or “Volunteer Corps” were irregular German and other European paramilitary volunteer units that existed from the 18th to the early 20th centuries. In the aftermath of World War I and during the German Revolution of 1918–19, Freikorps, consisting partially of World War I veterans, were raised as paramilitary militias. They were ostensibly mustered to fight on behalf of the government against the German communists attempting to overthrow the Weimar Republic. Wikipedia]

 

So we’re not asking anyone to do that. Not at this stage, certainly! But it’d be good to just be involved and put some stickers up. And have a good positive outlet, like physical training and being around people that are not fucking faggots!

 

[2:35:28]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, for sure. White Zealot said:

 

“Hail our people! We’re going to win!”

 

Operation Werewolf said:

 

“Support your local nationalist.”

 

And GoyBoy 1488. He always reliably sends $14.88 Superchats on Odysee. He said:

 

“Good morning, lads. Is a bottle shop a liquor store?”

 

Yeah, it is. We call liquor stores “bottle shops” in Australia.

 

Blair Cottrell: Those Odysee Superchats, they actually translate into cash. Is that the way they work?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s cool! I didn’t know that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. GoyBoy 1488 also said:

 

“Can you win before the Australian government changes the laws to shut you down? And what do you think about an episode with Warren Balogh discussing different strategy between Australia and the USA? Hail lads!”

 

Yeah, I’d be open to doing a show with Warren if he was interested. I met Warren in England last year, and he is a supreme gentleman, and so I’d be more than happy to have a conversation with him. Speaking of that crowd of people, I don’t know if Warren and Mike Penovich are still associated, but actually didn’t make a plan with Mike, also known as Mike Enoch from the TRS network, to do a stream, because he’s very clued in on the goings on with Israel. And also he’s just a very well educated anti-semite, Mike Enoch.

 

So I wanted to get him on to talk about all the shit that’s kicking off in Israel right now. It’s getting pretty hot between Israel and Hezbollah, and there’s bombings. And that’s the tensions there are escalating very seriously, and that’s potentially a powder keg that could turn into a major war.

 

And obviously that has a lot of permutations for American politics and how this election goes and the implications of how the election would go potentially on a conflict in the Middle East and so on. Because Hezbollah going to war with Israel. A lot of commentators think that Hezbollah would crush Israel. So then does America have to come in and save Israel and does that drag Iran in? There’s a lot that becomes complicated.

 

So that’s a very interesting discussion about what’s happening there, because that could end up being. I don’t think it’ll kick off in the next few weeks, but that’s an ongoing issue that could turn into a major war perhaps over the next twelve months or something. So I thought we’d do a stream talking about that because I think you would have a lot of interesting things to say. So keep an eye for that. I think maybe on the weekend we’re going to try and do that. I’ll announce it on social media.

 

The Gump said:

 

“The so-called multicultural alliance against the jews is the dumbest shit I’ve heard in a long time. Either they are delusional cowards or ill willed.”

 

Obviously, to the people promoting this:

 

“It’s a weak position. It’s not pro-White, but a humanistic, Left-wing worldview. Epic performance by Joel in that Twitter debate. No compromise.”

 

I think he’s referring to, I argued about this subject in a series of Twitter Spaces or X Spaces earlier in the week and last week. We don’t necessarily have to rehash that, but, yeah, but there’s a kind of clique of people that are promoting a kind of:

 

“Oh, Joel you guys, you’re putting too much energy into opposing non-White immigration and non-Whites in general. We should just focus all our energy on the jews!”

 

No, I don’t agree with that. And we should, like:

 

“Build, like, an alliance with these non-Whites against the jews.”

 

And I don’t think that that makes any sense for various reasons, but I’m not going to rehash the point.

 

Thomas Sewell: What I’ll quickly say is one of the fundamental issues with the groipers or the groypers is that they criticise a strategy, like ours, because it’s not liberal enough. They want us to be more liberal. But then they criticise the fact that the country’s falling apart because it’s too liberal.

 

So they’re just delusional. They think that the solution to the problem is the perfect amount of liberalism. Currently:

 

“The state, too liberal! But the Nazis, not liberal enough!”

 

And it’s like, okay, so there’s this golden liberalism. Is there somewhere in the middle that’s going to solve the problem? Well, actually, it doesn’t work like that. This liberal chaos that we’re in, it’s like a poison. And there’s not a golden amount of it’s already passed. It’s in motion. It’s in movement. We’ve moved through liberalism. It was the decline of monarchy. We’ve moved through it, and now we’re at the end state of liberalism. This really is the true liberalism, and there’s no going back to the correct amount of liberalism. So they are just delusional.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I don’t think it’s necessarily even a lot of the groypers that are the main offenders of this because they entertained the alliance with the Muslims for a time period and then have now, like, turned back upon that and readjusted. They kind of flip-flopped on that.

 

So that’s one thing, but there’s a lot of other commentators, mostly they’re just Twitter personalities and Twitter accounts that are still promoting this idea. There’s no, like, formal organisation in the world that is a multicultural, anti-jewish organisation. Like, that doesn’t exist. And I don’t think it will ever exist because I don’t think you can build a political movement on that foundation. It’s not going to be a principle of unity that you can organise as a political first principle, just simply being against jews. Like you have to be for something.

 

[2:41:24]

 

Thomas Sewell: Exactly! You can’t build a movement on a negation.

 

But in saying that, Blair’s just darted. He, maybe his phone ran out of battery. But I’m gonna head off as well. It’s quarter to twelve and although I don’t work tomorrow because it’s a public holiday.

 

Joel Davis: Well, we only have a few more Superchats, start going through them.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. But I went through, I just scrolled through them. It’s like:

 

“Yeah, over 5K viewers. Awesome stuff, guys. Everyone starts off as a larper until one day, …”

 

Joel Davis: There’s a few on the Entropy as well, that’s why I’m gonna go through.

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re not really discussive. I guess you can read them out. I’m calling it a night.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. All good. See you later. GoyBoy said, … Hail Hitler, motherfucker! Jews, quote, this is a quote:

 

“Jews donate money to political groups, therefore you are being jewish. If you fund a ‘political group’, quote unquote, has got to be the most retarded popular argument I’ve ever heard. I hate spending my money, but funding our people is my favourite use for it.”

 

Yeah. I don’t know if that’s really the exact statement of their argument, but basically, yeah, there’s either one group of people who are like:

 

“We don’t need money because we’ve got guns in America and we’re going to have a civil war against the enemies!”

 

And it’s like, all right, well, civil war. If you, let’s just say that that’s what you’re gonna do. Civil wars cost money. You got to buy a lot of if you want to do a civil war. So wars are pretty much the most expensive possible fucking thing! So whether you’re gonna do a civil war, whether you’re gonna do a political party, whether you’re gonna do a lobby group, an activist organisation, some community project or combination of a bunch of these things or whatever you’re going to do, everything costs money! So at some point, White people are going to have to come together and put money into the same pot, the pro-White pot. That’s just a brute force reality. And the jews do it. The jews are putting billions into the pro-jewish pot and we’re putting nothing into the pro-White pot. And that’s one of the essential reasons why we lose.

 

And a lot of people don’t like saying that because it comes across as like they’re begging for money. I’m not saying give me money! But give someone that’s give some pro-White project money. Right? Like we need to stop putting money in together as a group. Like this is just a general statement. Like, it’s not about anything to do with me personally or anything I’m associated with necessarily.

 

But it’s the principle. It’s a basic brute force principle.

 

And also it’s important to point out, because there’s an attitude, like I said earlier, that we need rich people to put money in. No, we actually need average people to all chip in and you don’t have to put all your money in. Just like something that is affordable for everyone. If everyone does their part and chips in, that we have a lot of money there. I talked about the NSDAP funding itself like that through rank and file dues paying members. That is true. That’s one example.

 

Another example is the Australian Labor Party back when the Australian Labor Party defended White nationalism and defended the White Australia Policy, it was funded by Australian workers paying their union dues.

 

And basically, like the unions funded the Labor Party and the unions. And in those days were White nationalist unions, you know, creating some kind of White nationalist Labour union or nationalist Labour union in Australia. That’s a project that would be interesting if people want to work on that. There is the National Workers Alliance. I don’t think they’re really a union per se, but they’re getting set up. They’re nationalists and they’re getting set up down here in Victoria, putting on events. I would love to see something like that come into existence as well. I think that could be a very powerful way to build White solidarity, and get White resources together and relate to the Australian worker. Because the current union movement, the union movement is basically taken over by communists. And it’s also been taken over just by like cynical actors in Australia.

 

There’s been a lot of controversy recently about the CFMEU, which is the construction workers union. And it has like supposedly corrupt leaders and they’re engaging in extralegal methods of violence to get their way and so on. And they’re currently being taken on by elements of the government and the media. But what is basically going to happen and what is already happening is that they’re just installing ideological Marxists to fully take over these unions.

 

So it’s like, yeah, the guys that run a lot of these major unions are just like scum. Like John Setka, for example. He’s like unprincipled, piece of shit, Machiavellian type, that is just exploiting it for personal gain. But it’s like, he’s a piece of shit! But at least he’s not like a full ideological Marxist. Watch! It will be replaced with full on ideological Marxists. That will make the whole purpose of the CFMEU Aboriginal rights and fucking LGBTQ rights and refugee rights and all this nonsense, like far-Left nonsense, like the Greens Party platform will become the union platform. Watch this space.

 

Like, that kind of shit is coming. It’s already starting to be implemented. A lot of these unions, because these unions have already been thoroughly infiltrated by communists and they’re going to entrench their power over the unions. That’s going to alienate a lot of workers. A lot of the rank and file workers are nationalists are right of centre, don’t want to be paying dues into something like that. If an alternative can be built for these people that will represent their interests, their political interests more directly. The Australian worker has an interest in immigration being halted, because not only is it causing cost of living pressures, but it’s creating., … There’s a reason why big business support immigration. It’s because you bring immigrants in, it creates downward pressure on the labour market and it drives wages down. And so it’s great for business, it’s bad for workers.

 

So one of the main priorities of workers movement, the Labour union movement, if it was actually doing what it supposedly exists for, which is to defend the interests of workers, would be to oppose immigration. But they don’t do that! Because they’ve been taken over by Marxists and cynical political actors that don’t really want to swim against the political currents because they’re just there essentially siphoning off wealth for themselves and their buddies. So, yeah, anyway, I don’t want to go on too much of a rant about that.

 

[2:48:04]

 

Clive Cutler said:

 

“Howdy, lads.”

 

And J5 said:

 

“Good morning, guys from the northwest, just tuned in. Hey, what’s going on with Tom’s GiveSendGo for the White compound? Is there a new way to donate to it?”

 

So basically what happened was that GiveSendGo refunded all the money that was donated. So there was like 16 grand, I think, donated. They refunded the money to everyone who donated. Because of political pressure from the media and the government, they eventually buckled.

 

So that’s kind of gay that GiveSendGo buckled to the pressure, to be honest. So I thought, GiveSendGo, we promoted them on the stream before as one of the few platforms that kind of stood up to this kind of thing, but they cucked, so, you know, shame on them. And, yeah, so that money, if you did Chuck in, you should have got a refund. You should look into it. Maybe if you don’t know if you did get one and chase up GiveSendGo to make sure that you do get your money back because we didn’t get any of it. So we want to make sure you get your money back.

 

And we’re working on a solution. It’s difficult to figure out exactly how to receive money. We have to, to, from a legal standpoint, we’re going to have to set up some kind of not for profit and register that so we can legally do it correctly and at the same time figuring out all the payment processes and everything so that it’s secure and we don’t get de-platformed and all the rest of it.

 

So we’re currently working on that internally. Yeah, we’ll let when we get it all established. Obviously, it’s challenging and we’ve been kicked off already a bunch of platforms and the state breathed down our neck, and it’s going to try and take as much of it as tax if we don’t do something like register as a not for profit, or maybe some kind of other kind of entity that won’t just gobble up your donations in taxation, which obviously shouldn’t. Like technically, under Australian law, gifts aren’t taxable.

 

But that you know, we got to look into that legally. Castlight Commander said:

 

“Love the show, guys. Keep building from an American friend.”

 

And we love our Americans. Jake 313 said:

 

“Question on Salms [sp], yay or nay? Personal insights would be appreciated.”

 

Well, this is one that it would be better if Blair was here for, because Psalms some kind of steroid. I don’t really know anything about steroids. I’ve never done steroids. I never really researched steroids. So I’m the wrong guy. So but maybe if you want Blair’s insights on that, maybe you could Chuck it in the chat next stream or you could reach out to him on social media. Jake 313 also said, question. It’s looking like central digital currency will come to fruition with your best guess what do you think the fallout will be? How do you see the White movement, the pro-White movement adjusting or shifting or strategizing ultimately prevailing in the face of a total control system.”

 

Digital central bank currency I don’t think is as much of an imminent threat as a lot of people are saying. I have read about this to a certain extent and it seems to be getting brought in not for like conventional use, like the money that we use personally, but to manage transactions like between banks and foreign states. And so that largely won’t change very much in everyone’s everyday individual experience.

 

And a lot of the private banks are kind of pushing for it to be limited because private banks are afraid that if they Institute a digital currency mediated directly by the central bank writ large, that it will basically make private commercial banks superfluous because everyone can just get an account with the central bank essentially, and it’s all just numbers managed by a central bank. So what’s the point of having a NAB bank account, or a Commonwealth bank bank account or whatever at that point? And so their whole business model would collapse.

 

So, yeah, that’s because the amount of savings that people save, you know, offsets certain cash reserves they need to have and makes it easier for them to lend. So it would kind of fuck up their whole business model.

 

So they’re pretty powerful lobbyists. I would anticipate that they’ll probably get their way and that will kind of hold back the adoption of it writ large. Secondarily, if it was adopted, I think people get de-banked all the time. People get denied private services in the movement all the time. But I have not heard any examples of someone being denied a government service. No one’s Medicare gets cancelled, no one’s Centerlink gets cancelled or things like that, things that come directly from the state.

 

Basically, if you’re a citizen, there’s Laws that make you entitled to government services and they kind of can’t cancel you from them. If someone has any contrary examples in Australian history, bring them to me. But I’ve never heard of one.

 

[2:53:38]

 

So in a way, like, I wouldn’t be too worried about like nationalists not being able to use their digital currency or something. I don’t think they would get cancelled in such a way, but I don’t think it’s really coming anyway.

 

So I think it’s something that isn’t as big of a deal as some people make out. That’s my take. Stove one just sent a full stop. Cheers. Himmler’s glasses said:

 

“From an outsider perspective, what do you think is the biggest reason why American nationalists can’t unite. Why do so many American nationalists reject National Socialism? Hail from the Southern Saxon Active Club.”

 

That’s a complicated question. America is a very big place, first of all. And it doesn’t have the most homogenous culture because of how big it is. And the White people in America are very ethnically diverse. It’s a real kind of constellation of different Europeans. There’s a lot of different regional centres in Australia. There’s, like, two cities in Australia that have, like, almost half the total population of the country, and we have a more homogenous culture and a more ethnically homogeneous White population.

 

And so we have more consistency and contiguity, like, within the Australian people and centralisation of Australian society.

 

So it makes sense that our movement will have those characteristics. I think that’s one of the, like, that’s just like, a basic take. I think a second thing is that Americans have a different mentality to Australians when it comes to the expression of American national identity. American national identity is bound up within, like, liberal notions of freedom and rights and so on because of the way in which the American Revolution is kind of understood ideologically. And additionally, the American national identity is the most attacked, like, it’s the most destroyed. Like, the Australian national identity is more racial in what it means to people. And I think that’s partly due to the more ethnic homogeneity and the fact that we kind of stuck with the Crown.

 

And so also the fact that Australia was founded as a White nationalist nation. So in America, they teach you a kind of subversive analysis of the American Revolution about the founding fathers and how there were liberals and it was all about our freedoms. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

 

And so there’s a way in which, like, this national mythos can be, like, presented in such a way that it, like, reinforces the current ideological status quo in the United States, whereas in Australia, you can’t do that because they just don’t teach us about the founding of the country really in school. Because if they did, like, they would just have to basically explain how Australia was founded as a White nationalist state for White nationalist reasons. And all the founding fathers of this country were basically just concerned about securing Australia for the White race. And they’re afraid to do that.

 

They do kind of talk about how racist they were and the horrible things they did to the Aboriginals, but they’ve refrained from teaching it in too much detail, I think, because they are concerned, rightly, that if they did teach that to the Australian people, a whole bunch of people like:

 

“Hey, wait a second. That’s what our founding fathers? That’s what Australia was all about?”

 

And they would then become positively predisposed to White nationalism. So our national mythos can’t really be, like, warped and directed in such a in such a way as the American one can.

 

And so that creates a certain kind of political difficulty for the American Right, because the American Right, one side wants to kind of recapture that American national mythos and, like re racialise it. Obviously, the American founding fathers were White nationalists and they were racialists, and America was founded for the Whiteman. That’s just a fact. And America was a White supremacist state until the 1960s. In a formal sense. You know, that’s like almost, 200 years of its history. That’s just a reality. And it came into existence on the back of, initially, a race war against the Native Americans. The colonies had to fight a race war against the Native Americans. And then America then went and fought race war against the Mexicans and cleared them out of territory which they conquered and then populated with White settlers. They had, obviously, black slaves, which they then segregated once they were freed and had a kind of Whites only immigration policy.

 

So, yeah, like, America was a White supremacist state. That’s just a fact. But so there’s like, a certain School of trying to recapture that and have a based Americana school.

 

And then there’s another school that says the whole, like, American ideological identity is itself the problem. It’s leads into this liberal mythos, which is part of our deracination. And the conservatives adopted, and everything is about guns and free speech. And doesn’t matter what race you are, we all have the same freedoms as Americans. The American dream. We’re all immigrants who came here in search of freedom and prosperity. And that’s what America’s about.

 

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And so that creates a tension in the scene that is a very strong tension, and I think divides the movement. So that very much complexifies things. Also america is such a powerful country and such a thing unto itself. Americans are more politically self referential, where Australia, being that we were kind of part of an empire, like the British Empire, and Australia was politically the same thing until the end of the Second World War. And then basically, we kind of teamed up with the American empire after the British Empire collapsed. And Australia is kind of always seen as a smaller country in terms of population. We’ve always seen, and we’re like White guys on the other side of the world, separated from the rest of the Western world. We’ve kind of looked to the rest of the Western world to understand ourselves, our identity, because we’re like an outpost of Western civilisation, an outpost of British civilisation or Anglo civilisation.

 

So we’re more receptive therefore to general ideas that are from the Western world in general. Like, we’re more receptive to taking from what the Americans are doing, what the British are doing, what the Germans have done, and so on, and taking those ideas on.

 

Whereas in America, there’s this kind of sense of:

 

“We’re the biggest, most powerful country in the world. We’re the main character of planet Earth. And so, like, why are we talking about German shit? You know, we’re America! We want to have, like, this American!”

 

So that I think that creates more hostility towards National Socialism.

 

And also America was more active in their war against the National Socialists. Like, for Australia, like, yeah, we fought the Nazis in World War Two. We fought the Nazis kind of on behalf of the British Empire.

 

But the main story of World War Two for us was fighting the Japanese. And I know that was a major aspect of the story for the Americans, but a very large part of America’s, like, kind of sense of itself is:

 

“We beat the Nazis! We defeated the Germans!”

 

And so on. That’s like a big deal to in America. And we were just kind of going along with that. So that isn’t as bound up like defeating the Nazis isn’t as bound up into our identity.

 

So I think that makes us more receptive, I think, to National Socialist, all these things mixed together, and also is part of the reason why America’s movement is so fractured.

 

Also, the American conservative movement of, is kind of more dynamic. It’s more interesting because of the primary system, entryism is more attractive to nationalists to get involved with the American conservative. Where in Australia, like, our conservative movement, it’s like there’s larger barriers to entry. It’s less interesting, it’s less dynamic. There isn’t as much of a way for nationalists to feel that they can really do much with Australia’s conservative movement. So a large portion of the American scene is very focused upon conventional electoral politics and the whole Trump thing and so on. In Australia, there isn’t an equivalent to that. So anyway, I think that would probably answer your question.

 

Based Henry George said:

 

“On the search for inspiring leaders and impressed on that front by what the work of you boys from Australia. Just wanted to support the show. Cheers from America.”

 

Thanks man. I appreciate that.

 

And I think we have, White Zealot said:

 

“To ensure financial transparency, you should create a DAO on the Ethereum blockchain. And the leaders would propose and vote on expenditure proposals on the DAO, which is public. The proposal passes, the funds are transferred to the design executor.”

 

Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t think we would probably use that. We might do a more kind of like conventional old school way that would still have transparency internally, but a more conventional kind of paperwork old school way.

 

Bethtion 1 one said:

 

“Cash is king.”

 

I think that must have been in response to what I was saying about how jews put money in as a collective and so we don’t have organisations that can compete with the organisations that defend jewish interest as a collective, as a White collective. 65 Stoney said:

 

“Over five thousand live viewers. Great show!”

 

And they threw like a little Roman. Cozytion Clips said:

 

“Everyone starts off as a larper until one day you’re not. Onward to victory!”

 

That’s true. Everything starts as larp and you larp your way into a position where it’s no longer a larp.

 

But yeah, I think that’s all the Superchats. Thanks for all the Superchats tonight. Thanks for watching the show. And yeah, it’s great that we got Twitter now as another option to broadcast the show.

 

As I said at the beginning, it makes me feel great that about a year ago I get banned from YouTube and now the show is getting way more views than it ever did on YouTube, on Rumble and Twitter. So that’s fucking awesome! It’s great that the online environment has changed and you don’t have to be on YouTube anymore to do a show like this and get a decent viewership.

 

So anyway, we’re going to end the stream there. Thanks for watching. Hope you enjoyed the show this week.

 

As I said:

 

“I’ll probably do a stream this weekend, maybe Saturday night US time, Sunday morning Australia time. I will confirm the exact time it’ll be with, as I said, Mike Enoch, aka, Mike Penovich. We’ll mostly be talking about the Israel question because I think, as I said, it’s getting very interesting. There’s a lot to analyze there.

 

So I think it’ll be important to put out some content on that. So tune in then if you’re interested in that subject. It’ll be on Rumble, Odysee, and X, as usual. And yeah, see you all next time.

 

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BradC1988
1 day ago
Australia for the White Man! o/
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Rockwell1488Pierce
1 day ago
Follow Joel and Blair on twitter, Tom on (telegram)! https://x.com/joeldavisx https://t.me/Thomas_Sewell https://x.com/b_cottrell89
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vigilantejustice23
1 day ago
You can’t label working-class women as dysgenically-tied to a cycle of poverty without saying the same about working class men. This is one example as to you may be coming across as anti-white woman to others. Working class white women are just as white as working class white men. I am not a member of the working class, but when you say things that make it seem like you want to disown your own kin, it compromises our very important sense of racial solidarity. I see you guys as my brothers. We share the same Kelto-Nordic blood. But the question is: do you in turn see me as your sister? I am not trying to nitpick as you guys have done so much amazing work, and I’ll be grateful whether or not you consider my feedback. I will continue to support you guys because you’re my brothers. You’re right that we need to weed out the weakest links within our race. But if there’s anything you guys have taught me, it’s that white solidarity is more important now than ever. We don’t need some kind of gender divide compromising our solidarity and sense of kinship. Many white women are looking for a “home” where they feel like they’re part of the in-group. We are essential to the survival of our race, just as you are. I think we could make huge strides if it’s clearly communicated to white women that you guys are on our side and are fighting for our interests.
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Carnierge
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1 day ago
What women believe doesn’t matter, nor should it. As a movement, trying to pander to women in a way that curtails the message to make it more palatable to women and their sensibilities is futile and naive. Especially considering women have had decades of programming by feminism and other andjacent ideologies, they are essentially self emulating on the pyre of modernity in defiance to their own self ruin. In the pursuit of appeasing them you temper your own stances from being as strong as they need to be, and you fail to capture the ire of women anyway. Men need to be men and that means making women unhappy — an inevitable, unavoidable reality, and in fact necessary. Women who are amongst the underclass and destroyed working classes are impossible to help see reason, but the men are capable to a degree. That is the difference, and a very real difference we must not ignore. How are you going to make a chain smoking single mother of 4 to 3 different fathers see the error in her ways. You won’t. The state supports her decisions and society reinforces her worldview. These women can bring through generations of imbeciles through their mate selection and rearing methods. Men do not possess that kind of societal weapon of mass destruction. “I think we could make huge strides if it’s clearly communicated to white women that you guys are on our side and are fighting for our interests.” How? By saying abortion is wrong, something that would cause mass outrage as the overwhelming majority of women on both sides of the political spectrum support it? By saying women are incapable of leading on account of their inherent nature and these duties should be left to men. By saying women’s purpose is motherhood and should be done as young as possible so as to maximise their window of fertility? All of these things are absolutely necessary to be said, none of them would go down well with modern women. This is why, respectfully, we need to not give a fuck what women think.
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Carnierge
Supporter
1 day ago
The fact that you would question them fighting for your interests enough, that they should strive to prove themselves more to women than they do, based on the fact that you don’t feel they speak in the right tone or go to the right extent in their messaging to be adequately women friendly or female oriented just proves my point in the matter.
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katana17
1 day ago
Last week’s show’s transcript: [Joel Davis – The Purpose of Street Activism, the Principle of Race and the Politics of Will – Sep 19, 2024 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2024/09/20/joel-davis-the-purpose-of-street-activism-the-principle-of-race-and-the-politics-of-will-sep-19-2024-transcript/ [In this livestream episode Aussie nationalist activists Joel Davis, Blair Cottrell and Tom Sewell discuss the following: • Now hosting a live stream on Twitter/X for the first time. • Recent activism and interviews, including one with a young Australian influencer/YouTuber, Max Caruso. • They criticize Nick Fuentes’ views
on their street activism tactics. • Argue for the importance of militant street activism to recruit and inspire supporters. • The need for white nationalism and racial loyalty: “We are one racial family with one shared destiny and the survival of our race.” • Criticize attempts at political alliances with non-white groups. • Discuss recent Australian political events, including a politician’s comments on Abo “Welcome” ceremonies. • Argue that White people need to “stop White flighting and start fighting back” against immigration. • Criticize conservative politics and argue for more radical action. • The differences between American and Australian politics and nationalism, “White nationalism was the product of struggle in Australia.” • Criticize Muslim immigration and Islamic views. • Importance of aesthetics and looking “cool” in political activism. “Looking cool is actually really more important than almost anything else that you do in politics.” • The need to appeal to women supporters. • Discuss historical figures like Hitler and philosophical concepts related to their ideology. • Criticize “multiracial alliance retards” and argue for racial separatism. • Discuss the concept of freedom and its relation to racial identity. “Freedom wasn’t this abstract concept, therefore, of you’re free because people leave you alone. … more
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whitehonkymonkey
1 day ago
5ill the whiteman . ramp up the message,we might get the reaction we need.
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MelancholyMonkey
1 day ago
You guys are three of this Yank’s very favorite honkies. (Honky is American slang for Whites, and was coined by blacks in the mid-20th Century.)
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FLmetalhead
1 day ago
I’d gladly donate if you set that up
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BradC1988
1 day ago
You guys giving shit to the fat cunt paedo who’s a lego enthusiast was pretty funny. The fattie also needs prison time.
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kirodarkpaw
13 hours ago
I think that the ONLY reason more people are not supporting white nationalists with monthly subscriptions is simply because it’s too dangerous for them to do so. Enter a credit card and they out themselves, go on a government list, and then get their bank cancelled. I know that you guys have done WAY more than that, but most people find that terrifying. I think there is a lot of money and support that WANTS to come your way, they just aren’t sure how to securely do so.
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JoeyBato3
1 day ago
Jew tube
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KingChun
1 day ago
“But the Jews are without any doubt the strongest, most tenacious, and purest race now living in Europe.” “And for this, it might perhaps be useful and reasonable to expel the anti-Semitic ranters out of the country.”- Nietzsche Beyond Good and Evil pg 251. Has anyone else woken up from the Judeo-Nietzsche psyop?
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lapalmax73
1 day ago
The more people know you guys the more people know you guys! I am getting on age wise how can an old bastard like me assist!
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Kroninn
SubSupporter
21 hours ago
that’s a great idea, about the “Doner Class”. I think that’s essential to build a resilient foundation to opporate from.
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Nationlessnationalist
1 day ago
hail from the heart of the GAE. thanks for what you guys do.
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WhitesArePigskin
1 day ago
Australia belong to Indians. and remember Whites are Pigskin and they smell very bad like a died stinky pig
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WhiteBloke
22 hours ago
Lol the only place for you subhuman pajeets is in India. You stinky cunts drink cows piss and eat their shit while we have them butchered and eat their delicious steaks. Don’t you have some uberjeets orders to deliver on your scooter anyway?!
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WhitesArePigskin
19 hours ago
Keep crying piggyskinboi we will replace u even in europe. ur time is over. ur jewish masters don’t want u anymore haha.
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White88White
19 hours ago
Great show.
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WillyPete9
18 hours ago
I wouldnt rule out the possibility of a war kicking off and suspending the US election. Harris becomes de facto President & Zog gets what he wants.
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BeamRider101
17 hours ago
Since when has there been a “speaker’s corner” in Sydney and I’ve lived there all my life, so it’s setup to be an easy to target location. That’s the first time I’ve heard of a speakers corner.
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Nationlessnationalist
13 hours ago
great show
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DontDrinkZeeKoolAid
8 hours ago
We need that stream with Mike Enoch soon, Joel!
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augustonvenus
6 hours ago
1:37:40 what a non sequitur, blair is a crack up
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vigilantejustice23
1 day ago
Also, if race-mixing women are dysgenic and the trash is taking itself out, how about race-mixing men? White men race-mix more often than white women do. By this logic, more white men need to be taken out than white women….
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hadefo
1 day ago
check wonder.cdc.gov/natality-expanded-current.html “children born to white parents 2016-2019” racemix for women is 12.7 racemix for men is 11.8 so it’s false men racemix more, but slightly less
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StreamAddict
1 day ago
“White men race-mix more often than white women do.” Nope. Except for some yellow fever among the men, the mixing with backs is nearly 100 percent women cuz men find black women completely disgusting, its basically beastiality. Not sure of the exact figures but I’ll bet $6,000,000 most of the race mixing is women, at least with the blacks anyway, which is arguably the worst form of it. There just needs to be laws with harsh punishments put in place, it shouldnt be left up to the individual to decide to create mongrel enemies for us all to have to deal with later, whether women or men, but at that point we’d already have enough power that there wouldnt be any non whites left in the country to race mix with anyway lol.
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Carnierge
Supporter
1 day ago
The white men who mix with Asian women are typically high IQ types, and increasingly higher status. Granted many of these types are soy nerds, but they are apart of the capable and productive classes. The white women who bring through a generation of disenfranchised mulattoes are largely dysgenic in the first place. If white men were just as willing to race mix as white women, there wouldn’t be such a thing as incels.
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Elijah Schaffer: You know, they say you’re not supposed to use the word faggot on YouTube, but apparently you don’t realize that that’s actually a frozen dinner out here in Australia, also known as a cigarette. We’re not talking about the other kind of faggots, which, of course, Harry Sisson and Chris Maury had a celebration party to confirm they’re not gay.

 

Okay, they’re not gay, but they’re really excited that Trump got convicted of 34 different charges. And they did a little merry jig to celebrate. Welcome to Generation Z, progressives. This is not gay. I want to remind you, they’re very straight.

 

Watch. Summer after high school when we first met in your Mustang Radiohead. And on my 18th birthday, we got matching tattoos. Used to steal your parents liquor and climb to the roof. Talk about a future. Like we had a clue. Never been a one day I be losing you, flirting. I love it.

 

And kids, that’s how you get AIDS.

 

Anyway, my name is Elijah Schaffer. It’s approximately some time in the middle of the night in the US. I’m very sorry about it. It’s probably some immigrant messed up a flight log in Australia, so the plane was late. Just kidding!

 

Joel Davis will be on the show in a little bit. You guys might know him. I guess he has a new description on his Twitter. We’ll be looking at that. He used to be a White representative or something like that. I don’t even remember.

 

But you know, the show’s gonna be bombastic! You know, it’s gonna be insane! Make sure you’re watching at Censored TV, promote code offensive, 20% off a membership or watching on Rumble because I can guarantee you this video is going to get pulled from YouTube. We’ll see you in just a few moments.

 

Brian. Let’s start the show.

 

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I remember what it was. A White advocate. Joel Davis, welcome back to Slightly Offensive.

 

Joel Davis: Hey, nice to be here.

 

Now, I’m, according to Twitter, I’m a mass deportations enthusiast.

 

Elijah Schaffer: Oh, yeah. Can I okay, so let’s talk about those at.

 

Joel Davis: There’s a swastika at the end as well.

 

Elijah Schaffer: Because can we go to that? Let me see if we can bring this up here. So here’s your Twitter. Joel Davis. You know, people are not gonna like this episode. You already knew ahead of time. Right-wing Watch, Media Matters, Angry White Men, whatever these bitches are, they’re watching this and they’re ready to kill me.

 

Joel Davis: Some of my biggest fans.

 

Elijah Schaffer: Have anything to say to them?

 

Joel Davis: Oh, yeah. Thanks for the promotion. One day we’re going to win, and then it’s over for you. So, …

 

Elijah Schaffer: What about any Drew Pavlou? It’s been a while since you’ve been on. Last time you were on, we had a debate. You guys should watch it. You were on with Drew. He’s Greek or Turkish or something. Did anything happen to that? Have you guys made up after that event?

 

Joel Davis: I wouldn’t say made up. I mean, he was very friendly, real life. Remember after the debate, he was acting like he was my friend.

 

And then he took to Twitter and spent the next week compulsively tweeting about how I’m a psychopath. One of my favorite of his descriptions of me was he was. He said that I had dead eyes, the eyes of a killer, and predicted that I would commit a terrorist attack at some point in the future. I took that as a compliment, to be honest.

 

But, you know, yeah, Drew is a pathetic faggot.

 

And also, I want to thank him for debating me, because he did such a horrible job. He really just kind of set me up to take a big victory. I mean, everyone was just watching that debate to watch me. No one was watching it. There’s no Drew Pavlou fans.

 

So, you know, he was just a whipping boy. He was a punching bag, and he did a very good job of being a punching bag. And, yeah, his narcissistic meltdown on Twitter was also really entertaining. So I had the popcorn out for that quite a few days afterwards. So that was fun.

 

Elijah Schaffer: Yeah.

 

And I think if you can go back to the screen here on your Twitter. I’m happy to have you back, because, again, you were a White advocate. Now you’re going by “Mass Deportations Enthusiast”. And you have a swastika there at the end of your description. To a lot of people, that would be considered quite offensive. Maybe just slightly.

 

A lot of people are very upset by that. Is that an ode to some sort of an Indian custom? Because I know Australia has become sort of an Indian colony in the last several years. So what’s up with that?

 

Joel Davis: Well, Hinduism was created by my ancestors, the Aryans. We ran India. We ran India twice, actually. We ran India originally, we wrote the Vedas. Hinduism is our creation. Then a bunch of us left, went to Europe, the ones who remained mixed, bred with the Dravidians and turned into, you know how there’s some caramel milk chocolate variations in the Indian caste system, so there’s different gradations.

 

So, unfortunately, there’s no proper Aryans left in India, only the ones who went to Germany and so on survived. But the swastika is the symbol of our people. And it’s, in fact, all over Europe. It’s not just in India. You can see in many churches, many old Roman buildings.

 

I mean, even in Australia, there’s swastikas in buildings all over the place here, all over England. I’ve driven past just random churches in England. And this is like a swastika that was the Church was built hundreds of years ago. It’s an ancient symbol.

 

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And as I said, it’s a symbol of our people. Everywhere that Aryans have gone, this symbol has gone with us. It represents our unique form of spirituality. It represents who we are as a people.

 

So that’s why I use it. And that’s also the same reason why Hitler used it. He didn’t invent the swastika.

 

And when Indians use it’s kind of cringe because it’s not really supposed to be for them. But they’re using our whole religion, but they don’t practice it properly. And that’s kind of the case whenever non-Whites practice any of our religions. They can’t practice Christianity properly. They can’t practice any religions properly that we create, because they’re an expression of who we are, our unique spirituality.

 

The reason why I changed it to “a mass deportations enthusiast” is because, you know, yes, I am a White identitarian, I am a White advocate.

 

But I think the more pertinent issue is getting all of these non-Whites out of our country. I think that’s the real active principle. Like, yes, I stand for White people, but there’s some people who stand for White people in a safer way. They stand for White people:

 

“Oh, there’s anti-White discrimination.”

 

And people like Matt Walsh will talk about the anti-White discrimination and the double standard. But they don’t want to talk about how we’re going to actually solve the problem, because if we allow the current situation to continue, we’re going to become like India. We’re going to get mixed bred over the generations, and we’ll all be different gradations of brown and the essence of who we are will be lost forever. No, they need to get out! We need to make, … And they’re not going to leave unless we make them leave.

 

I kind of represent a more forceful, I guess, position. You know, a lot of Europeans, …

 

Elijah Schaffer: Starting out lightly here. It’s like:

 

“Hey, everyone, meet Joel Davis. Hi! I have a swastika on my profile, and I want non-White people out of my country!”

 

This [chuckling] is pretty much summarizing. This is the real you, though, right? This is obviously not an act. This is not a joke. You really believe this stuff. Just to clarify to people in the audience, this is like a real platform, correct?

 

Joel Davis: Obviously.

 

I think you believe it, too. You want them out.

 

Elijah Schaffer: So [chuckling] that crazy Drew Pavlou particularly. He could be the first one. No, I’m kidding! He’s actually coming back on the show. I want to be kind to Drew. He’s coming back on the show in Florida. He’s going to be in America, which I’m really, … You’re welcome to come to America, too. You’re invited. Because I don’t think Australia likes you. I don’t think the government here. I think the people like you. I think that there’s a lot of people that think like you.

 

I think there’s more people in the country that share your views on the world, but they’ve been trained. Some might call it “buck broken”, depending on which culture you’re from, into White men have been broken to thinking that it is a hateful ideology to preserve your heritage, to preserve your future, and to look out for your country.

 

I know right now in Germany, we’re gonna look at a story. I wanna get right in this with you, particularly that the last week the German government has spent time trying to investigate White men for singing the song Auslander Raus. You’ve heard about that, the “Foreigners Out”?

 

Joel Davis: I’ve listened to this song about 1, 400 times this week.

 

Elijah Schaffer: All right, [chuckling] we’re going there!

 

All right, but I want to say this.

 

So again, this is what’s probably going to get the show pulled. It’s not even anything we’ve said. It’s the fact that I’m going to show a video. YouTube is gay, so make sure you go to Rumble, make sure you go to Censored, make sure you’re supporting there.

 

While they were doing that, here’s a longer video. There was a stabbing in Germany of a Muslim. And this is a really interesting discussion because you talked about getting. I didn’t want to cut you off there, but you were talking about getting non-White people out. And this ideology, and this brings up a very interesting conversation. Something important that we’ll talk about.

 

I want to play this video of this Muslim guy who stabbed a Muslim critic in Mannheim, Germany.

 

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My guest today is Joel Davis, mass deportation enthusiast, Hindu supporter. He’s a Hindu, apparently. And we’re talking about the story of going on of the Auslander Rouse song, which means “foreigners out” being made illegal, banned at Oktoberfest pretty much everywhere.

 

And while White countries are fighting against White people trying to protect their countries, here’s a little bit of what’s actually happening in Germany. This is actually all too common. Check this out. All right. There’s a lot going on here, Joel. There’s a lot going on here.

 

Joel Davis: There’s a lot to unpack.

 

Elijah Schaffer: Yeah, let’s go back to.

 

Let’s start in the very beginning. Let’s just unpack what’s happening here. I’m familiar. Are you familiar with what was going on here?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. So, I’m sorry, I can’t remember the individual that was being targeted, but I know that he is probably. He’s a prominent anti-Israel. Sorry, not anti-Israel. He’s a pro-Israel, anti-Islam activist. I don’t think you and I would probably be his biggest fan due to the fact that he is so vociferously pro-Israel.

 

But of course, I think everyone is familiar with this form of politics. It’s common in the Anglo sphere as well, where like a Tommy Robertson style, where you just talk about how horrible Muslims are all the time and how great jews are all the time and how great everyone who isn’t Muslim is. It’s just the Muslims that are the problem. The counter jihad political paradigm. He’s one of these guys.

 

Anyway, so then he’s doing some kind of public event.

 

And obviously a Muslim is upset about the fact that he is an anti-Islam campaigner, probably against Islamic immigration, probably against building mosques, that kind of thing. He probably pushes for. And so he’s attacked him and tried to stab him and his buddies. To be fair, his buddy showed valor. They didn’t run away. They’re trying to tackle this guy and restrain this guy even though he’s swinging the knife at them. So they showed some balls. They showed. But the police, they seem extremely slow to react.

 

Elijah Schaffer: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: When they do react through, that reaction is crazy!

 

Elijah Schaffer: Okay, so the guy right here is. This guy is the if you guys can see my cursor on the screen, this is the attacker, right? I think this is this the guy he’s going after? Right in the blue here? I’m pretty sure that’s who he’s going after, cuz, like, he’s, like, targeting him. Right?

 

Joel Davis: He stabbed this other guy in the leg as well. That guy? No, I don’t think that guy. I think that might be his friend. I’m not sure.

 

So the guy in the other guy, the other guy in the blue jacket is like, grabbing his leg like it’s bleeding.

 

Elijah Schaffer: And, you know what’s funny is that critics of this show will have more problem with you being on the show than with a Muslim guy stabbing people in Germany. Like, that’s the state of the country in our nations. Like, Joel Davis was on the show. Like, hey, people are getting stabbed.

 

Joel Davis: See here, the police officer seemed to have more problem with the guy trying to hold the guy with the knife down than the guy swinging a knife to the point.

 

Elijah Schaffer: Okay, so he’s.

 

And by the way, this is not like, this is a something I want to point out is the vitriol in the attacker. Right. This isn’t just like you’re fighting and somebody just shakes you. Right? This guy is trying to kill him. Yeah. He’s attempting murder. And this is definitely not a small shank. This can easily cut an artery, kill you. So shout out to the cameraman for some reason for filming.

 

Joel Davis: This cameraman goes hard. Yeah, he’s like, he gets bumped. At one point, I was like, this guy, he lives for the content.

 

Elijah Schaffer: Yeah. I was like, this is me literally on the field. Like, people are getting shot. I’m just like, I gotta get this on footage.

 

So this guy is stabbing. You can see the blood, Brian. Yeah. When this stream is done, we’re gonna have to delete this media off YouTube or we’re gonna get a massive strike for the violence. Thank God for Rumble and censored for allowing us to show Muslims acting like Muslims.

 

And so this guy, his what?

 

So his friends trying to restrain him, get the knife off him. Right? Is that what’s going on here? And he gets up.

 

So the police are on the scene already?

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah, there’s heaps of them too. And they’ve got guns out and they haven’t shot yet.

 

Elijah Schaffer: Yeah. Okay, well, so let’s talk about that with modern policing. Why of the police? Are the police hesitant to act because he’s a minority? Is it because it’s just the law in Germany about the has to be, like, a sure use of lethal force? Is this because they’ve been instructed to stand down on, like, targeting Muslims? What do you think’s going on here? Why is there like a three or four second delay?

 

Joel Davis: There’s definitely. Well, a bunch of them are women, so that’s already explanatory for their inaction.

 

But then also the people that are the victims here are the supposed bad guys, the horrible racists.

 

And obviously they have been conditioned and trained with a Leftist ideology. Obviously in Germany in particular, they’ll be very afraid of any police showing sympathies to the Right-wing for obvious reasons.

 

So these people have been programed with Left-wing ideology. They’ve been programed that the bad guy is always the White guy. And they don’t actually properly enforce the law when it comes to crime committed by these immigrants, these non-White immigrants in Germany. Like, we see this across the West, double standard in policing.

 

So they’ve been trained to be inactive. You’ve got women also. I think, to be fair, it’s probably hard to find the shot because there’s people falling all over everyone.

 

So they’re probably nervous to pull the trigger because you wouldn’t want to shoot the wrong guy. And they probably don’t want to make the shot, you know, they don’t want to kill someone, probably.

 

So there’s a various set of reasons for the apprehensiveness, but these guys are supposed to be professionals.

 

And you see this guy pulls out the gun here.