Joel Davis: We are live. It is 29th of August, 2025, and we’re going to do a quick stream for you tonight because it’s a big weekend in Australian nationalism. A big weekend in Australian politics because we’re about to have the biggest nationalist, anti-immigration marches that this country has seen in a very long time. And we’re primed for it. You’re going to be in Brisbane for this one, I’m going to be in Sydney. And we’re going to be all over the country supporting these rallies. There’s literally no excuse! I don’t really care what you have going on, cancel it! Don’t show up.

 

Show up to this midday Sunday. You got to be there. We need a big turnout. Bring your mom, bring your dad, bring your cousin, bring your auntie, bring your uncle, bring your sister, bring everyone! Right? Because everyone needs to be there.

 

We need to have a massive turnout because what this rally is about for me. And I think Jacob would agree with this, but we’ll get his take, is its about sending a message. Not even so much to the establishment, not even so much to the government, even though that’s part of it, but more so sending a message to our own people that they’re still fighting spirit left in the White Australian nation. And that we’re not going to just sit down and watch our country get stolen from us by hundreds of thousands of immigrants pouring in year after year, flooding the zone and turning us into a minority! We’re not just going to sit down and take it quietly without a fight.

 

We’re going to rise up, we’re going to resist and we’re going to force these globalists, and we’re going to force all of the enemies that are stacked against us to have to fight us for it. If they want this country, they’re not going to be able to take it by just calling us “racist”, and making us sit at home like little cucks! You know, seething at the television, seething at Twitter, all while the country is stolen.

 

Would you agree with that, or what’s your main motivation for going?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I think it’s both. We need to show the establishment that there is resistance to their agenda, and we need to show the broad population of Whites in this country that there is resistance as well. It’s both for our friends and for our enemies.

 

And it’s been interesting to see all the different reactions in the right to the idea of these rallies being on August 31st. So you’ve seen the Containment Rights, the especially the establishment, you’ve seen Sky News and these politicians, these Liberal Party politic out and saying:

 

“Do not go to these rallies, you’re going to be called a Nazi, you’re going to be racist! This represents a mean form of nationalism. We get that you’re upset about immigration, but you’re only allowed to advocate for perhaps 50,000 less to be brought in every year. That’s all you can do! You cannot stop immigration totally. You cannot suggest restriction based on race or ethnicity or anything like that!”

 

And then you’ve had people that aren’t explicitly in the establishment but that are part of the broader Cntainment Right. You’ve had these libertarian types, you’ve had these Zionist types, you’ve had all of these people saying that:

 

“They’re not even going to go to the rally, they hate the rally.”

 

It was a few days ago that most of these people have changed their mind because they know how big this rally is going to be, how much excitement there is for it, how much excitement there is for an agenda of stopping immigration and genuine nationalism.

 

And so they want to come and try to co-opt it. They want to come throw a spanner in the works, as it were, and derail the genuine discussion and the genuine resistance to this agenda of immigration.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think that’s definitely true. We’ve seen that play out where there was obviously an attempt. We talked about it last week, that I know, as somewhat of an insider, let’s say, there were attempts early in this process, … Because this is an organic thing. This was started literally by some random teenagers on TikTok who then it blew up, probably bigger than they were expecting, and they abdicated the space. So this was a totally organic origin. And it shows.

 

The fact that it could be an organic origin, that it wasn’t explicitly planned, shows that there’s an appetite in the people for something like this, that this has been a long time coming.

 

But also what happened was immediately grifters from the One Nation Party, grifters from the cuckservative establishment, people connected to Zionist groups, people connected to other more establishment forces on the Right, they tried to get in on this. And they were essentially pushed out by nationalists who jumped on it first, who got in control of this event.

 

And then when we made it clear that we were going to be supporting the event and those nationalists pushed out all of these conservative elements, then they then went public and started attacking the rally saying:

 

“This is going to be a White supremacist Nazi event. You don’t want to go. The media is going to call it a Nazi event, it’s going to be a big optics failure, it’s going to be a shit show, blah, blah, blah!”

 

And then what happened was basically the comment sections of every single one of these commentators got filled with brutal hatred, brutal review. A lot of these people were non-White.

 

[05:59]

 

And so a lot of people pointed out that:

 

“Oh, you just don’t want a rally against mass immigration because you are the mass immigration! That’s rather convenient.”

 

Because what these forces wanted, they said:

 

“Look you guys don’t have any experience running rallies, but if you kind of hand it over to us we can take it over and we can bring all the politicians in and we’re going to do that. We have to make it optical. So we can’t make it just about mass immigration, we have to make it about digital IDs, we have to make it about lowering taxes, we have to make it about Net Zero, we have to make it about all these other conservative pet issues or libertarian pet issues. Water down the message and turn it into this kind of civn at cuckservative nothing burger!”

 

“And then we can then bring in all our money and we can set up stages and have people ranting about Israel on the stage and trying to get you to vote for them at the next election and just cuck the whole thing!”

 

When they were pushed out, they then regrouped and now they’re doing that on September 13, so good luck to them. I’m sure no one will care about those rallies when they occur because that’s not interesting. What’s interesting is what’s controversial. What a lot of these people think is that:

 

“You don’t want to be too controversial. Because if you’re too controversial, you can’t build a big coalition of people to support your ideas. So what you want to do is you want to water your ideas down to make yourself as least controversial as possible. So then you can try and get a big group of supporters and not have too many people attacking you.”

 

But the thing is, and there’s no energy for anything like that. People only have energy for things which are controversial. Otherwise why would they be taking to the streets if it wasn’t a contentious issue in the first place, if it wasn’t a really big deal, there wasn’t a lot of opposition to it, what would be the point of doing a street rally? The street rally becomes an utterly pointless exercise. It’s only relevant if it’s controversial. It’s only relevant if there are massive swathes of the establishment and of society in general that is upset about it. Because that means that you’re actually taking the fight and mobilising people around an issue that is contested.

 

And that’s what politics fundamentally is about, is about the contested issue. It’s not about the things everyone can agree upon or the things people don’t even give a fuck about in the first place. That’s not interesting, that’s not important, that isn’t going to materially affect our lives in a very serious way. But mass immigration, there’s nothing in our society that has more of an impact on our lives and more of an impact on the state of our country and the future of our country than mass immigration. Mass immigration is the issue of our time! Because mass immigration, a country is a group of people, mass immigration is literally replacing that group of people with another group of people. In other words, it’s replacing the country that we once had with a completely different country.

 

In other words, it is a way to steal our country from us by replacing the population with a new group of people, a melange of foreign races that will be subservient to a globalist regime that has demonstrated over the last few decades that it has no loyalty to us and it wants to be completely unconstrained from any loyalty to us, the historic Australian nation, because it is wanting to globalise our economy. It has shipped off our jobs to foreign countries, it’s brought in foreign investment, integrated us into all of these international institutions and treaties and so on, and has no interest in maintaining Australian sovereignty in any meaningful capacity. But instead seeks to kind of its a parasitical elite that seeks to ingratiate themselves with global power networks, international finance and so on. And that’s what they care about. They care about getting on those gravy trains, getting the access to these global elite networks. That’s what they care about. They don’t care about you, they don’t care about me, they don’t care about the Australian people!

 

And so we have a traitor regime that is using mass immigration to essentially facilitate the conquest of our country without a bullet being fired! And what this rally is about is about the Australian people saying:

 

“No! You’re not going to take this country off us without a bullet being fired. We don’t care if we don’t have political representation, we will, through force of will, manifest our own organic nationalist movement to rise up and challenge you!”

 

That’s what this rally is about. It’s about showing the Australian people that there are tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of Australians ready to march in defense of our national identity, in defense of our country against mass immigration now. And this is just the beginning.

 

So it’s a very potentially powerful step for Australian nationalism. A few years ago, you know, thinking back to the Covid pandemic and the end of end of the Covid pandemic, that whole period, it felt like at that time that there basically was no nationalist movement in Australia to speak of there were a few people with little projects doing things here and there, but there wasn’t much momentum behind anything. Nothing was really happening. Over the last two and a half, three years, that’s changed.

 

And I think our organisation, the work we’ve done have been Spearheading that change. But now the people are ready for nationalism again. Now the hunger is there in the population for our kind of politics.

 

[11:23]

 

And I think we’re going to see that on Sunday when despite all the politicians, all the mass media, all condemning this as a horrible, racist, Nazi White supremacist event, they’re going to come anyway. And everyone has been told that we’re going to be there and they’re going to come anyway with their Aussie flags and they’re going to march with us because they realise that the people that are ruining this country and that are trying to steal this country from them are not the Nazis! We’re on their side. It’s the communists, it’s the globalists, it’s international finance, it’s the political establishment! That’s who their enemy is, not us. And all these elements in society, they try and go to the everyday Australian people and point the finger at us and say:

 

“Those are the people that you should be afraid of! Those are the people that you should be morally rebuking.”

 

Why? What are we trying to do here? We’re just trying to basically advocate for you. Why are you so afraid of Nazis? What are Nazis? We are just radical nationalists! We take nationalism to its logical conclusion. We care about you too much mate! Maybe we’re too extreme in how much we care about you and this country. That’s all we’re guilty of we’re guilty of hating communists too much. We’re guilty of hating jews too much. We’re guilty of hating the politicians too much. We’re guilty of hating everyone that is ruining your life, too much! Yes, sorry, we’re guilty of that.

 

Why are you offended by that? Why are you offended by someone who puts your interest first? You should be offended by these communists trying to tell you how to think and who to like and not to like when. These are the people that are complicit in stealing your country away from you. These are the people who think that White people need to basically be subjugated to atone for our historical crimes of being the greatest, most powerful race in human history! Why are you listening to that?

 

All these communists are trying to dictate to us about how you shouldn’t let the Nazis be at your event:

 

“If you go to this event, you’re basically complicit in Nazism!”

 

And all this kind of stuff. Fuck these communist faggots! ! Why are you listening to them? And the same with these politicians and everyone else. Everyone who’s telling you not to go to this rally hates you and hates your way of life and is trying to take it away from you! We don’t hate you and your way of life. We love you. That’s what this is all about.

 

I think it would be a good way for the movement to embrace us, but at the same time for us to embrace them, for us to realise that we’re all in this together. That’s how I see. That’s what I hope to see this weekend.

 

So, everyone watching this, you got to come down. You got to come down. You’ve got to come say hello. We’re going to be all over the country. You’ve got to support the event, support the organisers, support the speakers. There’s a diverse range of speakers and opinions that are probably going to be articulated. You don’t have to clap for everyone if someone says some really cucked shit! But come down and support the event. Bring your Aussie flag.

 

If someone raises an abo flag, Israel flag, Russian flag, whatever, tell them to fuck off! But bring your Aussie flag and bring your family because this could be something quite special. The scenes on the news, Sunday night, of every city Australia covered in patriots marching together as one against mass immigration, defense of our national identity. It’s going to be a beautiful sight! And everyone that we hate is going to be in an insane meltdown!

 

There is going to be a kvetchcaust that we have not seen in a long time on the news Sunday night and on Monday and on Tuesday and so on. And the images are going to go around the world of Australian patriots rising up against mass immigration. And they’re going to say:

 

“The Australians are waking up! The Australians are fighting back!”

 

And the whole mood of the country is going to change! Because it’s going to be this very powerful reassertion of the fact that this is still our fucking country and there’s about 20 million White Australians, and we can take this country back if we want to. It’s a matter of whether we want to, whether we can get ourselves organised and unified to fight back. And if we want to, we will! And there’s nothing that can be done to stop us.

 

Jacob Hersant: That’s true.

 

And one thing I’ve noticed is the difference between these Containment Right people in wanting to dilute the message of opposition to immigration.

 

Whereas the Nazis who, they’re very angry about people who, like you and me, are trying to keep the rally focused on the original message. They saw a rally against immigration and they were upset about it, wanting to change it to be different. But the Nazis are the ones who want to reject this co-opting. From the start we just said:

 

“We support it, we want to go down, we want to oppose mass immigration with broad masses of White Australians.”

 

But these people:

 

“No, that’s not allowed, of course! They have to be opposing Nazis, not fighting with Nazis to stop immigration!”

 

And that shows who the real enemy to these people are. They actually are against “racism” and “Nazism” more than they are against immigration and government ideology, fundamentally.

 

I don’t know why they want to come to a march against immigration. Well, obviously we know that they want to come to co-opt it, but why don’t they go join the anti-fascists who hate racism, hate Nazism and hate immigration restriction. Why don’t they join the anti-fascists and protest us? Why do they have to come to the protest, try to change it, water it down, make it about a bunch of nonsense, rather than what everybody wants and is actually going to mobilise for, which is stopping immigration because it is destroying our country and ruining all of our lives.

 

[17:29]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! There’s people saying:

 

“Oh, I saw Craig Kelly say today, we need to put the recently arrived immigrants, he was saying up the front of the rally because no one is affected more by mass immigration than them. And we need to show that this is a rally against all immigration or immigration in general. It’s just against excessive immigration!”

 

No, it isn’t Craig! Who the fuck told you that you had the right to speak on behalf of this rally? Who the fuck are you? You fat fuck! You fat cuck! You are literally nobody!

 

But apparently he thinks that he has the authority to tell us what this rally is about the organisers March for Australia have made it very clear this is a rally against mass immigration, period! It’s not against:

 

“A bit too much immigration. Maybe we could bring immigration down by 40% or 50%.”

 

No! It’s against mass immigration, period!

 

And we’re not going to have the recently arrived immigrants up the front. The recently arrived immigrants should stay the fuck home. I saw this turbinator, this towel head, some Sikh community leader who, … There’s a picture of him shaking hands with Anthony Albanese. He must be some kind of multicultural, you know, official body representative of some type from the Sikh community, who said:

 

“Indians are very scared and afraid because they were named in the official March for Australia pamphlets.”

 

Where it pointed out that more Indians have arrived in Australia over the last five years than Greeks and Italians have arrived in the last hundred. Which is a wild statistic, a true statistic, a wild statistic! And they said:

 

“Oh, this is making Indians feel very afraid!”

 

So just pointing out the fact that they’re coming in their droves is making them feel afraid. And he said:

 

“Indians should stay home.”

 

And I said:

 

“Good! Fucking stay home! We don’t want you there. This is the Australian rally for Australians!”

 

It’s not for some fucking Indians! It’s not for abos, it’s not for jews, it’s not for Russians, it’s not for any of these other groups.

 

Now, if Russians consider themselves Australians, that’s one thing, but we don’t want them coming down with their Z flags and Russian flags. We don’t want people coming down there with Ukraine flags. We don’t want people coming down there with any other kind of flag. This is the March for Australia.

 

So, no, we’re not going to have recently arrived immigrants at the front. We’re going to have Australians, actual real, true blue Aussie Australians up the front, actually! Because that’s what this rally is about. It’s about us! We are actually the ones that are affected the worst by mass immigration because it’s our fucking country that’s being stolen from us! The recent arrivals, they benefit from mass immigration because they are the fucking mass immigration! I mean, it’s just fucking insane, the kind of shit that comes out of that fat fuck’s mouth!

 

So if you see Craig Kelly at the rally, tell him he’s a fat fuck! Call him a cuck! Call him a piece of shit! Tell him to quit politics!

 

And when I see him tomorrow, because I’m in Sydney too, if I do see him, I’ll tell him that myself. But I want all of you patriots to tell this fat fuck, Craig Kelly, that:

 

“He’s a race traitor. And then he needs to stay away from KFC. And he needs to get on a fucking treadmill!”

 

And I hope his days in politics are over. Because we need real, true blue Aussie patriots that are going to stand up for this country. I’d be much more impressed by the performance of Bob Katter over the last week than Craig Kelly, because Bob Katter, for all of his faults, understands that this country has been destroyed by mass immigration. And I’m definitely a lot more radical than Bob Katter on a lot of issues and whatever.

 

But there’s a reason why he’s been going viral this week, because he’s been tapping into the feelings of millions of Australians, which is that this country doesn’t feel like Australia anymore in an increasingly large amount of places. And that never in our lifetimes have we seen such ethnic division. They call us “divisive”. They say:

 

“Oh, these people that want to march for nationalism, these people are divisive! And being against immigration is divisive.”

 

You know what’s divisive? Introducing a whole bunch of different ethnic groups into our country. That’s fucking divisive! You know what’s not divisive? Having a country where everyone is the same, because then we’re not divided by ethnicity. Like these people they advocate for an ideology called “multiculturalism”. That is literally a divisive concept! It’s the idea that we’re all going to have different cultures.

 

And then when you say:

 

“You know what, I don’t like this idea that we’re going to accommodate all these different cultures in our society. I want Australia to be Australian.”

 

Then they call you divisive. It’s insane! They have everything backwards! Everything they say is backwards. Everything they say is ridiculous! We saw Allegra Spender*, the nose on this bitch is putrid! She’s the representative for the Eastern suburbs in Sydney.

 

[* Allegra Spender (born 1978) is not a jew; however, she represents the Wentworth electorate, which has a significant jew population, and she has been an advocate for the jewish community. Since her election in 2022, Spender’s policy platform has focused on strong action on climate change; economic reform; integrity in politics; and support for gender equity, humanitarian treatment of refugees, LGBTQs inclusion, and action on anti-semitism.]

 

She’s a Teal. Whatever you call it, independent. And she said:

 

“Oh we shouldn’t be having street rallies against mass immigration. If you’re upset about mass immigration, you should write a letter to your local MP and tell your MP about it!”

 

Are you fucking serious? We don’t get to protest in this country anymore? We just have to write letters to Members of Parliament. They don’t give a fuck about us who are responsible for the very thing we’re upset about the patronizing attitude of these people. They think they can just morally grandstand and talk down to us.

 

And I love it because you know what? All of these politicians going on television yesterday and today and it’s all over the social media, the Prime Minister, the premiers of all these different states coming out and saying that these rallies are horrible, these rallies, they condemn the rallies and blah, blah, blah. All they did was just make the rallies grow in size. All they did was bring more patriots out on Sunday because Australians don’t want to be talked down to by these fucking traitors. That’s who we’re protesting against. Who the fuck do they think they are? Tell us what we’re allowed to be upset about. This is Australia. We’re supposed to be a free country.

 

[23:38]

 

So I’m feeling really positive about the weekend. I think a lot of people are going to show up. I think it’s going to be a powerful presence in the streets. And yeah, the politicians, they keep making the same mistake that they always make with our activism where they have to say something, they have to condemn it, they have to talk about how horrible and racist it is. All they do is increase the popularity and the notoriety of the activism. And they’re doing this now to the March for Australia where they’re blowing it up into an even bigger, a more potent thing because the media and the politicians can’t stop attacking it. And they don’t understand that the Australian people hate the media, hate the politicians and will do the opposite of whatever they say!

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well, they tell us to write the politicians because that way they can ignore it easier. The reality is they are responsible for the mass immigration and if we bring our concerns to them, they’re just going to ignore it. They don’t care! They are bribed to carry on the agenda. They believe in the agenda! And they don’t care about us at all!

 

And when you brought up the recently arrived immigrants who are allegedly the most affected by mass immigration, these migrants really have no self awareness. They come into our country and make it worse and then they complain about more people like them coming into the country and making it worse for them. So they come into the country and then they start screaming:

 

“Shut the borders now. But maybe not for my family, because my family are nice. Bring those people in. But we got to shut the borders and we got to keep a White majority so that I can parasitize off the majority and live a comfortable life and not be affected by the problem I’m a part of and responsible for.”

 

So this is ridiculous!

 

The fact that this fat cuck [Kelly], as you said, fat fuck and fat cuck, as you so eloquently rhymed, he is saying that these people who are part of the problem are actually the most affected. And when he says that, he’s actually ignoring us! And he’s just ignoring us and it is pure insanity that the vast majority of people and the true people that are affected by mass immigration are White Australians. And the vast majority of people that are going to be marching against immigration are White Australians. And that all these migrants, these recently returned migrants, which I’m sure there will be a few there, all they’re going to be doing, they’re not going to be screaming out the most to stop immigration. They’re going to be “concern trolling” everyone saying:

 

“Oh, well I’m an Australian too and yeah, a little bit of immigration is okay because I came in and I’m nice and I like Australia.”

 

While all the White Australians are going to be there screaming out to:

 

“Stop immigration, we need to close the border. We need to start mass deporting all these illegals and criminals and all these people!”

 

We’re going to have all these concern trolls and these cucks like Craig Kelly trying to sabotage the event.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean I saw, there’s been a lot of concern trolling pre-emptively:

 

“Oh, are immigrants going to be welcome at the rally?”

 

And it’s like, why do immigrants need to be welcome at the anti-mass immigration rally? Like they are the fucking mass immigration! Like is the mass immigration going to be welcome at your rally against mass immigration? It’s like going up to like the pro-Palestinian protest saying:

 

“Are Zionists going to be welcome at your rally?”

 

Or going up to like the anti-Covid vaccine protesters and saying:

 

“Oh, the CEO of Pfizer, is he going to be welcome at your rally? Or is Anthony Fauci going to be welcoming rally?”

 

Like fuck off! Like fuck off with that stupid question! I’m sure there’s going to be some people there that are of non-White extraction who consider themselves civic patriots or something, or sympathetic to White Australians and our plight.

 

And ultimately you can’t control who shows up to a street rally because it’s in the public. But of any of the non-Whites that do want to show support, if they’re there in good faith, they should keep their mouth shut and not make it about them. Don’t come down with foreign flags, don’t come down and concern troll. If you truly care about Australia and our plight, then you should quietly nod along, while the White Australians do something about the problem, at the very least.

 

[28:24]

 

But you know, from my personal position, I don’t think this is the position of the official organisers. It couldn’t be. But my personal view is stay the fuck home! This is our thing. You know, I say the same thing to non-Whites who watch this show. Stop watching my fucking show! This isn’t for you! You’re brown! I’m not talking to you. I’m talking to my fellow White Australians. Brown people try to come into my Telegram channel and I always tell them, mods:

 

“Ban them in my Telegram chat!”

 

This is supposed to be a space where White people can talk amongst ourselves and work out our problems amongst ourselves. Why do you have to follow us around like a bad smell? You know, every time White people try to have our own space somewhere to do our own thing, there’s a whole bunch of brown people trying to get inside it. I get that being brown sucks! I get that brown people suck and you want to get away from them and that we’re better than you and you want to be around us. But please, fuck off! ! You know, it’s annoying.

 

But anyway, I think we’ve seen an interesting reaction by different elements of the establishment here. You know, we’ve seen Bob Katter, Pauline Hanson, John Ruddick, a lot of the more populous coded politicians have endorsed this rally. Everyone else on, like all the entire Liberal Party, pretty much everyone that goes on Sky News, with only a few small exceptions, they’ve all condemned the rally. And they’ve said:

 

“It’s offensive to Indians, it’s offensive to immigrants and blah, blah, blah.”

 

And so a line has been drawn between who’s a real nigger and who isn’t, if you will. And, it’s been interesting to witness that. I think the key takeaway will not be what people said before, but what people say after. Because afterwards there’s going to be a lot of controversy. They’re going to say it was a “Nazi event”. It’s just because we’re there. They are going to call it:

 

“A White supremacist event and blah, blah, blah, racist, etc.”

 

And a lot of the controversy around the event isn’t even just because of us. Like the people that are organising it, who aren’t members of our organisation, they themselves have said some pretty spicy stuff, some pretty based stuff. And that’s getting whipped out into the media and so on and so I’m sure there’s going to be a lot of backlash. And I’m sure some people are going to cuck out. Some of these politicians that are currently saying that they support it might backtrack. Some of these commentators that are currently defending it might backtrack.

 

And so we’re going to really find out who the real ones are and who the fake ones are, I think through this process. And it’s this great kind of sorting mechanism basically to figure out like I’m going to draw the line on who’s basically for White Australia and who’s against it. And that’s the dividing line. And that’s exactly where we want the dividing line to be in politics, from our point of view. Because obviously we’re the spearhead of White Australia. And for us, the racial question is the everything question in politics.

 

And so I’m just really kind of excited to see what consequences this has in general. Because people say all the time:

 

“What’s the point of marching around?”

 

You know, when they criticise what we do, they criticise street rallies in general. They say:

 

“Oh, politics isn’t about street rallies. Street rallies don’t accomplish anything. What accomplishes things is making money and buying influence and getting institutional power. And all the street rally stuff is just kind of this peasant psychological release valve. It doesn’t actually achieve anything.”

 

And I think in some cases that’s true, but I think it’s not true in many cases. I think often mobilising in the street can have a profound psycho-social effect on the broader population, can change the structure of political discourse, it can realign people politically. And also it’s a show of force that can greatly moralise one side, demoralise another side. We’ve just seen the pro-Palestine marches over the past two years accomplish quite a lot for their cause. Australia now recognises Palestine as a state. This is something that was unthinkable two years ago. So street movements can have considerable effects on politics if they’re determined, if they’re well organised, if they’re relentless.

 

So I think this is an opportunity for nationalists to try and materialise and get organised in the street. And that can provide a foundation to get organised in other ways. And also a kind of source of moralisation for the general Australian people to take up the banner of nationalism and fight for it, to believe that there could be a political solution if we get organised.

 

And I think it would be great for the White Australia Party that we’re building. I think this is a great kind of momentum builder for when we launch our political party in the coming months.

 

Jacob Hersant: Another thing that has been interesting is to see all of these Containment Right people making little schemes and saying that they’re going to kick us out of the rally, saying that they’re going to purge the neo-Nazis from the demonstration. Which is really delusional because when you consider when we went to the Shrine of Remembrance and booed the Welcome to Country, that was some 40 Nazis going into a crowd of 50,000 people. Now that crowd would have been generally Right-wing, but it wouldn’t have been a substantially radical crowd, just people that were there to remember Anzac Day.

 

In fact, when we were booing, after we were done booing, there was some woman in the crowd that yelled out:

 

“Always was, always will be Aboriginal land!”

 

So there were a few Lefties there as well. And we booed the Welcome to Country. And it was very awkward for all of these kind of people. And even they did not have the spirit to shut us up and to kick us out of the rally.

 

So the idea that we’re going to go to a crowd of people that are there to stop mass immigration and these people are going to be able to concern troll and talk about how we’re Nazis and kick us out of a crowd that is predisposed to liking us. In fact, the majority of the right now actually support what we’re doing because they’ve seen our struggle against all the things that are destroying their life and they’ve seen that we’ve braved it against the establishment and we’ve won them over now! So the crowd is actually going to be on our side!

 

And I actually look forward to these Zionists and these libertarians and these cucks and all these kind of people trying to stand up and be marvel superheroes and say:

 

“You have to get out of the rally! Oh, we just want sensible migration!”

 

I would love to see them try and for them to be humiliated. And in all likelihood, they’re the ones that are going to get ejected from the rally because they’ll be causing a giant issue that everyone doesn’t want, actually.

 

People want us at the rally. They want the focus to be on immigration. They want the rally to look united. They don’t want people infighting because they want to adhere to establishment ideology just a little bit more then we obviously align to the system’s ideology. So, … You go, you go.

 

[36:12]

 

 

Joel Davis: Okay, you can finish.

 

Jacob Hersant: No, it’s all right, it’s fine, you go.

 

Joel Davis: No, I was just going to say, obviously we really don’t like mass immigration. I think we’ve made our position pretty clear on the issue. So, I mean, if anyone should be at a rally against mass immigration, I think it should be us. We’re basically getting thrown in jail or dragged through courts for waiving Australian flags and opposing mass immigration. So if we’re going to have a wave your Aussie flag opposed mass immigration rally, I mean, why the fuck are you so special that you get to decide who’s going to be there? Why are we not special? [chuckling]

 

How many times have you been arrested for protesting against mass immigration? How much work have you done to push the public discourse against mass immigration? Probably not as much as us, where we literally live for this shit!

 

So it comes back to what I was saying before about these people. They want to cancel Nazis for believing in the same things they believe, but too hard or too extremely. Why would you not want people to believe in the stuff you believe in radically? Why would you not want radicals in your corner fighting for your interests and for your side? The Left has that! The Left have a fringe of radicals that push extremely hard for their agenda. And the Left wins! Because the Left doesn’t turn around and cancel its own side for being too Left-wing. When was the last time left just went:

 

“Oh, we don’t want a bunch of communists at our street rally.”

 

When was the last time someone got kicked out of the Labor Party for being too communist? People get kicked out of the Liberal Party for being too nationalist or too racist all the time. They kicked out of the One Nation Party for being too nationalist. They kicked out of every single Right-wing group kicks people out other than us basically for being too racist or too nationalist. And we sit around and wonder why the Right-wing keeps losing.

 

Well, maybe because we keep policing our own side with the morality of our enemy. Why would you sideline your best fighters and your most extreme true believers should be deploying them against the enemy. You should have us up the front when Antifa show up and start throwing like cans of tomatoes at us or whatever happens, you want us up the front, making sure that we stay staunch and we keep marching forward as a group. Like, I don’t understand what the logic is behind this. They think:

 

“Oh, well, if the public see that there’s some Nazis in the crowd, they’re going to stop supporting the anti-immigration message and they’re going to all go back to supporting immigration!”

 

No, they’re not! People don’t change their opinion just because Nazis agree with them. That’s not how people work. Because we’ve been protesting pretty prominently and publicly for the last couple years on a whole series of issues that the average person agrees with. The average, you know, particularly like Right-wing patriotic Australian pretty much agrees with the message of every single one of our rallies. Whether it be us going on the trans issue, paedophile issue, mass immigration, or other issues that we’ve protested. When we were protesting against the demands, the Fuck Off We’re Full rallies, we’re protesting against the demands of these entitled refugees to permanent visas. The average Australian agreed with us.

 

Then when we went and marched in Corowa against the local piggery importing in immigrants to replace the local population, the average Australian agreed with us. Like time and time again, the average Australian agrees with our message. Even if they think that we’re a little bit, maybe a little bit more extreme about it than they would be. They don’t all just turn around and go:

 

“You know what? I’m going to be Leftist now because I saw a Nazi rally where they agreed with me. So I’m going to swap my opinion.”

 

Like that’s not how it works. So what the fuck are you so afraid of? Just like when Leftists who are more moderate Leftists see that communists agree with them, they don’t magically drop their opinions either. That’s not how politics works!

 

[40:14]

 

So if you want a Right-wing in this country that is actually going to fight for your interest, you’re going to want to stop throwing this Nazi label around and this racist label around like as if it’s a negative thing. Like we got to cancel anyone who says anything racist or has expressed any kind of sympathy for Adolf Hitler or thinks Mein Kampf was a good book or something. These are the fighters! If you think Adolf Hitler was cool, you’re probably going to be pretty staunch on the issues. You’re probably not going to be one of these traitor cucks in the Liberal Party that’s willing to sell the country out, are you?

 

Who would you rather have in power? Nazis who want to basically take over the banking system, forgive your mortgage, deport all the Indians, deport all the Africans, clean up the streets, get rid of this trans crap, protect your kids from paedophiles and secure a future for White families? Or do you want Liberal Party to come in and reduce immigration by 15% and reduce your taxes by 13% and what, you’d rather have that because it’s not offensive, because it’s moderate, because they’re sensitive to multicultural issues too? It’s just insane to me! Like the way that some people think.

 

But I think the average Australian patriot does not think like that. I think the average Australian patriot doesn’t give a fuck if we’re there or not, because at the end of the day they just want a big public rally against mass immigration. They saw the big rallies where they’re waving the Palestinian flags and they thought:

 

“How come we’re in Australia and there isn’t a big rally when we’re waving Australian flags? How come the one major political issue of our time gets no political representation? That gets swept under the rug by the establishment, even though the public are up in arms about it and it’s ruining our quality of life and it’s ruining our country. How come there’s no street movement against that?”

 

Well, now there is! And they want it. That’s why they’re going to show up.

 

Jacob Hersant: Exactly! Yeah, exactly! Is there any other things that we want to discuss tonight?

 

Joel Davis: I think it’s mainly just revving people up for the rally this week.

 

And like I said, everyone’s got to show up. Like, I don’t want to hear, I don’t want to hear any excuses. Everyone who watches this show who’s in Australia, which is, I would presume more than half of our audience, needs to be there on Sunday. You should come and say hello. You know, if you’re in one of the five capital cities, you’ll see our guys there, come and say hello. We’re going to be handing out flyers, having conversations. Should be a fun day out.

 

Yeah, I guess that’s really the main message of the show this evening. I mean, we could go through some of the other things. Did you see that like Paul Murray video where he was saying on Sky News, basically saying like:

 

“Don’t come to the rally because everyone’s going to get labelled a White supremacist!”

 

This type of thing.

 

Jacob Hersant: That’s obviously going to happen. There’s no way to avoid that if you do anything political that furthers our agenda and goes against the enemy agenda, you’re going to be called a Nazi. That is the logic of the system. That’s how they respond to that particular stimuli. That’s not going to change whether or not you have enough non-Whites in the crowd or if you have a bunch of cucked speakers or anything like that, you’re going to be called Nazis. You’re going to be called fascists. They call people like Donald Trump a fascist even though he’s all for multiracialism and all of these things that the establishment believes in as well. So if Donald Trump can brave it, you need a, take up a little bit of Donald Trump White Power as well. And just brave these slurs and this reprimanding that the system does against people who are actually going to stand up for Australia.

 

And as Joel said, we want everybody to come out. You don’t want to have some excuse like:

 

“Oh, your dog is getting surgery, or you have to look after your dog.”

 

Or something. Leave the dog bowl full of food, give it water and come out to the rally for two hours and then go back. I’m sure the dog will be fine. You know, don’t come up with some nonsense about how your grandma has died for the third time this year. That’s the reason why you can’t come. Everybody can come! If you just motivate yourself and prioritize it, you can come to this rally.

 

And this is the first rally like this in 10 years. There hasn’t been anything like this. Yes, there’s been rallies for freedom and against Covid and all of these kind of things, but there hasn’t been a rally against mass immigration or against multiculturalism since the days of the United Patriot Front. So you don’t want to miss out on this. It’s, this is going to be awesome!

 

And we need to make sure that we do not have any police worship there. Because we got to remember that these police are against our movement. They are all for immigration. They’re happy to show up at our houses, terrorize us, arrest us for being anti-immigration activists.

 

And yet all these cucked Right people and these libertarians, well, probably not the libertarians, but these Zionists and all that, they want to praise the police and say:

 

“Oh, we love the police!”

 

But the reality is the police are the foot soldiers that would beat you to death for being racist if they were allowed to. So if any of these cucked speakers or any of these people talk about how much they “love the police, the thin blue line”, actually, the police are the worst people! The people that are getting affected the most by mass immigration because the immigrant crime is out of control and they’re on the front lines and being killed because of it, we need to just boo these people and tell them:

 

“No, these police officers are scum! They are destroying our country!”

 

And you got to remember these police officers as well, they’re going to be very angry at us because they conflate anti-immigration and patriotism and all that with what Desi Freeman did, obviously this guy who shot two police officers up in rural Victoria.

 

[47:07]

 

So they’re going to be mad at us as well for that. And just do not enable any of these cucks to say:

 

“The police are heroes and they’re on our side.”

 

They are our enemy.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, well, it will be interesting to see on the day how the cops behave. I’m sure it’ll be different in different cities. I’m not anticipating the police will be able to stop the rallies in any cities. Most cities have permits. In Melbourne, there’s no permit system.

 

But I think the size of the rally will just be so big that the police will be kind of forced to facilitate it, reluctantly, probably against their own political wishes. But it is what it is! So I wouldn’t be particularly afraid of the police. I wouldn’t be afraid of doxing either. If you don’t want to get your photo taken at the front of the rally, don’t stand up the front holding the banner or something, but it’s going to be a big crowd, potentially tens of thousands in Sydney and Melbourne, for example. No one’s going to dox you being at the patriot rally. So none of this pussy shit:

 

“Oh I don’t want to get doxed!”

 

Just stand in the middle at the back or something. If you don’t want to get doxed. Just show up, you know, Jesus Christ! There’s no excuses!

 

I put out an article on an opinion piece on The Noticerearlier today. You can find it Noticer dot News on, basically why we need to march. And I said a lot of similar talking points to what I said tonight. But maybe if you’re still on the fence about coming, maybe read that. And when you finish reading that, I think I hopefully would have convinced you because this is just so important. And it’s not just about coming yourself. You should be bringing your dad, you should be bringing your brother and so on, bringing your mates. I’ve heard from boys that they bring in the whole football team, or they bring in all their mates from work or whatever. Come in-groups, family, friends, whatever, safety and numbers. And it’ll be a better day out because you’ll be with your friends or with your family. It’ll be more fun!

 

So, yeah, be there, stay safe, be smart, keep your wits about you, but don’t be intimidated by the counter-protesters. They’re not going to be able to match us for numbers. They’re not going to be able to do anything too substantial to stop the rally from happening. And you could be part of something kind of historic, something quite important in the trajectory of the history of our country.

 

And if you can’t show up to street rallies like this, if you can’t go to White Australia.org and sign up to the only political party that’s going to advocate for White nationalism in this country with any kind of confidence, if you can’t do these basic steps, how the fuck are we going to save the country? We deserve basically to be genocided if we can’t even take basic steps like this to advance the ball down the field of nationalism in Australia.

 

So you have to be part of it! You have to do something! You can’t just expect to sit there watching live streams and clicking on tweets and the country magically gets fixed for you have to actually commit to something. If this isn’t worth committing to, what is? I really don’t understand.

 

Jacob Hersant: So just message everyone that you know who is based. It could be your Internet contacts, it could be people that you know in your life. Just send them a message and say there’s going to be a rally on Sunday, where it is and that you’re going to be there and you hope that you see them there. Just message everyone you can. That’s what happened with Cronulla* in 2005. It was just these mass texts that got sent out to everyone saying:

 

“Come down! It’s Leb bashing day! [chuckling] Come down to Cronulla Beach. You bring beers, bring your Aussie flag!”

 

Recreate that energy and say:

 

“Everybody, come to the march for Australia. I’m gonna be there. I hope that I see you there!”

 

[* The 2005 “Cronulla Riots” were a series of race riots in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. It began in the beachside suburb of Cronulla on 11 December, and spread over to additional suburbs the next few nights. The riots were triggered by an event the previous Sunday, when an altercation turned physical between a group of youths of Middle Eastern appearance (Lebanese) and White Australian lifeguards on the beach. Wikipedia]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think I’m having a tech issue where my main microphone is being jewish. ZOG got to the microphone, and the jews have taken out the Blue Yeti [brand of mike]. So apologies for the shit audio for the rest of the stream. We’re only going to do a quick fire stream this evening because we’ve both got a lot on over the next couple days. So I don’t know if there’s really anything else to cover.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, we can just go to the Superchats. An hour’s stream’s good.

 

[51:50]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we could do the Superchats. I would just say one more thing, which is I’ve seen bullshit from the likes of Monika Smith*. Monica Smit, by the way, supported the rally, then opposed the rally, supported, then opposes it, and now is supporting it again.

 

[*Monica Smit is an Australian anti-vaccine and anti-lockdown protester. She is the founder of Reignite Democracy Australia, an anti-lockdown and Covid-19 conspiracy group. Smit gained prominence during the Covid-19 pandemic as a critic of the Victorian Government’s response. In August, 2021, Victoria police charged Smit with 5 offences after she attended, and allegedly incited others to attend, anti-lockdown protests. She initially refused to accept her bail conditions, resulting in her being remanded in custody. Wikipedia]

 

So, I mean, this is the biggest “woman moment” I’ve ever seen, which depends which part of her cycle she’s on, whether she likes the rally or not. You know, now she’s issuing cards on what to say if people call you a Nazi and how to assure the public that you’re not Nazis for coming to the event, and assure the public that you’re not racist and blah, blah, blah. I mean, how is this helping?

 

Now, obviously Monica is a confused and retarded individual who has a low IQ, not much by way of a political ideology that’s coherent. And doesn’t even seem to get the point of the rally, which is that it’s against mass immigration. I haven’t even really heard her talk about mass immigration in any significant way. She’s just concerned with basically trying to cuck the rally out from having any teeth.

 

People like this, we need to be on guard against people like this. We have to criticise online, criticise in real life at the rally. You shouldn’t get physical with people just because they have a different opinion, because that’s assault.

 

But if you see someone who is a cuck or someone who is behaving in a cucked manner, then don’t just stand it, say something back. Engage them in debate! Engage them in rebuke. You should be humiliating these kinds of people. And we need to be asserting frame at this rally. We need to be vocal, we need to be forceful in our opinions and in our positions, and ensure this rally doesn’t get cucked out by these school moms that are trying to essentially neuter it of having any kind of teeth, any kind of vril, basically. Because the people that are going to save this country are not people who think we need a sensible 50% reduction in mass immigration. It’s going to be the racists! It’s going to be the Nazis! It’s going to be the people with radical, uncompromising beliefs. They’re the only ones that are going to be able to do something about this problem.

 

I saw Drew Pavlou going on about how:

 

“Why is the Left and the establishment so hell bent on replacing White people with excessive mass immigration? Can’t they see that they’re just emboldening the rise of neo-Nazis? If you don’t want neo-Nazis and White supremacists to rise, you’ve got to stop creating the conditions for their eyes by creating such an Anti-White system.”

 

I thought:

 

“Wow, it’s incredible how much Drew has basically conceded every point that I made now in a debate a year and a half ago at this point.”

 

But also it struck me that like what even is his point? That we need to stop immigration so that Nazis don’t take power? That’s the real concern? What about the fact that the White race is being genocided? Like we need to stop our race from being genocided, that we need to stop our country from being fucking stolen from us! We’re not going to be able to do that as moderates. Moderates will not create radical changes. Only radicals can create radical changes.

 

When you have a society that is more or less healthy, being moderate is good. When you have a society that is unhealthy, it requires radicalism. Moderation is no longer the solution. And we’ve gone far past the point where moderation is a solution, where moderation is the correct attitude. The only correct attitude in a society this decrepit, this disorderly, degenerated, etc., is a radical solution, is a radical mentality! So we need to display that on the weekend.

 

And I think a lot of the people there are going to have a radical mentality because moderates are not going to bother to get their arse out of bed on Sunday and go down to the march. Not in substantial numbers.

 

Jacob Hersant: And that’s another thing. Make sure to get up nice and early and go to the rally. Make sure that you get there early so that you don’t miss it. Because a lot of people, they’re not going to set alarms. It’s Sunday and they’re going to sleep in till like 2 PM and miss the whole march! So make sure that you come early, set your alarm, make sure you just do not miss it at all! Come an hour early because we’re going to need a lot of patriots there anyway because the anti-fascists are trying to organise a little bit earlier and they’re going to try to disrupt the march even before most people even get there.

 

So it’s really important that you show up early and support the rally.

 

Joel Davis: They definitely show up early. Particularly I think in Melbourne it’s important to show up early. I won’t be there. But the Leftists are organising early. I think in Brisbane they’re organising early. In Sydney the Palestine protest starts later at 1 PM. So maybe that’s to give the Leftist time to basically fuck with us first before going on to their rally.

 

So it will be good for everyone, for the hardcore to get there early, get down there by 11 to the meeting place. And maintain a bit of like a staunch attitude and hold the Fort for everyone else to get there and set the tone.

 

So I would say to the hardcore is get there, get there early, get there in-groups. If you’re there as an individual, maybe when you get there, try and make some friends so that you can establish a group, right?

 

[57:35]

 

So if you’re there on the day on your own, shake some hands with some people that look they’re on their own, see if they seem like all right people, maybe hang out together, watch each other’s back. Come find us! If you feel a bit unsafe as an individual, come find us, come stand with us. If you’re friendly with us. In fact we’d love to have you come stand with us! So come stand with us, hang out with us, talk to the NSN and spend the day with us. We’re more than happy to, that’s part of the reason why we’re gone is to be able to meet people like you and shake hands. And we’ve got a lot of supporters. We’ve got over 1500 supporters, like registered supporters of our organisation at this point. We’d love to meet a lot of you, a lot of you we haven’t even met before. So come down and say hi.

 

But yeah, let’s get on to these Superchats. Scroll up here. He Man 1488 said:

 

“We need shekels to start the show.”

 

That’s true. Luckily you provided them. Then Sean McKenzie, He Man 1488 and Aussie August 88 created the Superchat N-tower. [NIGGER] So nice work, nice work that. Sean McKenzie spamming Superchats tonight. He said:

 

“How old is you? What you be saying? We was kangs! Shiet!”

 

And apparently these are quotes from black people. He also said:

 

“Gee up for the martial ads and blood and honour!”

 

My 113 said:

 

“Does throw Romans throw a Swabian salute. It’s like saying kiss my ass.”

 

I feel like there’s a bit of a grammatical issue with that Superchat. Sean McKenzie said:

 

“Avi needs to debate Joel Davis.”

 

He man 1488 said:

 

“We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children.”

 

John McKenzie matched his Superchat. Then Aussie Autist 88 said:

 

“Is it true that you only became anti-semites thanks to Iran funding you? Heil Persia! Heil the Ayatollah Zarathustra!”

 

Is that true, Jacob? Are you on the Iranian payroll?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, [chuckling] I’m sure someone’s gonna say I look like an Iranian. I’ve had lots of people say, like I look like I’m from the Caucus Mountains or maybe I’m Turkish or something like that because they don’t know that there’s Europeans that have dark hair.

 

So, well, it’s probably true! I probably am a fighter for the Ayatollah!

 

Joel Davis: You remember you are an ancient Persian. [chuckling] You hail from the ancient Aryans of that area. Sean McKenzie said:

 

“Fuck Aussie Autist for asking that question. Hail Hitler!”

 

Jacob Hersant: About the Iran? Yeah, okay, he’s just right.

 

Joel Davis: Aussie Autist said:

 

“Fuck Sean in triple parentheses (((McKenzie))) for not understanding sarcasm!”

 

RSA Liberty said:

 

“Hail White Australia. Hail common sense patriotism.”

 

Self Sufficient Scotsman said:

 

“TND. Let MacKenzie challenge Aussie Autist to donate again. And he will match it because he knows he has the cash.”

 

I’m liking this competition to give me money, so keep that up. It’s good. Megawatts 80 said:

 

“It’s Superchat night. Hail White Australia. Hail the NSN!”

 

Jacob Hersant: You’re the one in the background, [chuckling] like facilitating the conflict going:

 

“Yeah, yes, send me more money!”

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I’m like the Military Industrial Complex. Just like:

 

“Yes, go to war, goy. We need to bring more freedom to the Middle East!”

 

Aussie Autist 88 said:

 

“Should I read Pagan Imperialism by Julius Evolo or Prussianism and Socialism by Oswald Spengler, next?”

 

Both good books. I’ve read both those books. I would recommend Prussianism and Socialism first, however, because I think it is more pertinent. There’s a very interesting discussion of the distinction between the Anglo and the German in that text. And it gives a lot to reflect upon, particularly as a National Socialist in an Anglo country. I think actually the first time I ever did a podcast in my entire career of doing racist podcasts, the first was on the Metaphysics of War by Julius Evola and the second podcast was on Prussianism and Socialism by Oswald Spengler. And this was many years ago now, besides. Years ago or so.

 

So I would like to read that text again. Have you read it, Jacob? Have you read On Prussianism and Socialism? I know you’re a big fan of Decline of the West.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes, I have. It’s very good for explaining the difference between what he calls “Prussian socialism”, which culminated international socialism as opposed to “Anglo individualism”. And he go, he goes through. Well, in that text he talks about the five main nations, as he sees it, of the West, which are Germany, England, France, Spain and Italy.

 

So it’s very interesting discussion, but I think, yeah, if you’re gonna read Spengler, you need to read Decline of the West because that’s the meat of his philosophy. Even though it’s very difficult to read, like every chapter he’ll be talking about all these different parts of history that he can like abstract and connect into one giant philosophical system.

 

But it’s actually very difficult to do that as you’re reading along and he’s talking about all these things. It’s something that you really need to study and you can’t just listen to an audiobook or skim through it. Yeah, you’re really gonna have to take the time and then you’re probably gonna have to do it next to a computer where you can Google search every obscure historical fact he’s bringing up. He’ll be talking about like:

 

“Okay, this relates to the Manichaeans.”

 

And you’ll be like:

 

“What the hell are the Manicheans? I better search that up. Go and look at it.”

 

Yeah, it’s a very long book, but it is one of the most rewarding books. I think even John David Ebert* says that it’s his favourite book of all time.

 

So that’s high praise.

 

[* John David Ebert is an independent cultural critic, youtuber, and the author of 25 books examining various aspects of cultural development.]

 

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diabloblanco88
8 hours ago
You gentlemen are doing fine work in Australia
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ausburger
13 hours ago
When does an Indian turn into an Indian-Australian? Would an Indian in Poland be an Indian-Pole? I think the left will bluescreen if we ask these simple questions.
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Bigboy6669
21 hours ago
Hail the nsn
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SALAustNZ
3 days ago
The Liberal party will just lie about immigration & tax reductions anyway, just shuffling visa classifications & taxing the middle even more.
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Kroninn
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3 days ago
If all goes well, I’ll be moving to the white part of the county after 10 years in the non part. Then, after a couple years, I’ll be in one of the whites states o’ the land. We are grouping up to grow our strength.
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NateAus
3 days ago
Great to meet you at the start of the rally joel and have a chat, speech went hard aswell up the lads
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matthewh01
3 days ago
Fellow Ulster Scot here Joel. Watching from the motherland. You should do some research on the UVF if you haven’t already. They were proudly oppossed to Marxism/Leninism. FOR GOD AND ULSTER
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007lyse
3 days ago
Filters are good. I have rosaries in my windows along with pro-life & nomorelockdowns plastic pig lawn ornaments so when the house next dr went up for sale I DIDNT GET BROWNS IN MY FACE. They’re already around the neighborhood overcrowding houses with their garbage out of control. All of a sudden a 2bag policy every wk is out the dr so me true patriot put a note on a Jeet car PICK UP YOUR GARBAGE YOU ARE NOT IN INDIA.
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007lyse
3 days ago
Nothing is impossible with God. Communism is in the ranks of NS If Joel claimed his birthright of being Catholic everything would fall apart BC the real battle is against the true church. I’m afraid we are headed for more monkey statues & mosques until God wins BC if ppl aren’t aware He wins.
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007lyse
3 days ago
I wish I would have known about the rally for secondsons in Canada. I would have gone. I’m not on Farcebook anymore or want to be on telegram or X. I’m training doing planks on fists. I’m being more racist than I was. Lol
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Rumbolinawave321
4 days ago
Just remember …. E- Karen is a CIA operative!
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whitehonkymonkey
4 days ago
apologies , i have since heard toms speech and he delivered it wonderfully well. very proud to be a national socialist today. we love our people and we love all the other people that seek to go there own way also. national socialism for all nations.
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TheAviator007
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4 days ago
well done today lads
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theunbeholden
5 days ago
What does this movement stand for besides blood and honour. Because I’m not sure what you mean by it.
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imSofaKingRayZest
5 days ago
whats the difference between an indian and a abbo? 1 of them made streets to shit in
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Shave your head man it looks fucking ridiculous
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WMFB
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Amazed by breadth of historic learning here. Always enjoy these shows & look fwd to them. Jacob- Great ‘we must fight’ speech from recent Nats.
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palacepony
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A concise doco on Stephen Wells’ heroism would be cool.
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He did a great interview for chaotic Hermes
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Girnigoe
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White foolish ones need to understand that they may not be “nazis,” nor may they want to be NS, but without National Socialism, their civilization will not survive, nor will the White race. So try to man up and put a lid on the complaints. And don’t punch Right.
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Australia is doing the best work on the street scene
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stop the global reset ,that’s the main issue. stop the jew bankers now
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Greetings from Denmark! Huge support from whites all over the world, you are a great inspiration to all of us. Hail Australia!
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kvetchacaust lol Joel
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Hail Victory
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Joel, how come you dont upload to Odysee anymore?
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had some tech issues in recent weeks, this ep should be up on odysee now
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Political Police = ZOGBOTS The politicians blue army… These are not the constabulary, keepers of the peace and upholders of the law; All those kinds of cops live in small country towns that are predominately White.
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The MSM and government traitors calling Whites, who want their country to remain White, “divisive”, are like criminals who call their victims “divisive” because they want the criminals punished!
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Street shitters should be afraid, nobody… absolutely nobody wants them here and they’re all going back to Calcutta. Disgusting cunts
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Lol this is the first anti immigration protest in australia since decades, meanwhile britain has held hundreds of them in the past 5 years. This country isn’t showing nearly enough resistance to immigration. What the fuck are we doing?
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Who gives a FK what others are doing? We do it better! We’re going to win o/
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i think the reason england gets more anti immigration protest and public support is because of the volume of illegals coming in there as opposed to the “legal” immigration we get here in oz. also white guilt over us aussies being “evil colonizers” that must repent is strong. good news is even city dwelling normies are beginning to say they dont want to live in india or china. overton window is shifting in our favor and the chicken swingers are scared.
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[Mark Collett – Patriotic Weekly Review – with Thomas Sewell – Aug 27, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/08/28/mark-collett-patriotic-weekly-review-with-thomas-sewell-aug-27-2025-transcript/#pwr20250827-12 [In this livestream video Mark Collett, leader of the pro-White British nationalist movement, Patriotic Alternative, talks with Australian Nationalist Socialist Network leader Thomas Sewell on the recent midnight Melbourne march of 150 men. See Contents list for details of items discussed.]
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis: We’re live. It is the 28 June 2024. Sorry we didn’t go live last night. Some things came up. But you’ve still got your show, Friday night show. So hopefully that’s good for some of you. Friday night viewing, although a lot of our audience actually watch the replay rather than watching live.

 

So I guess it doesn’t really matter that much.

 

But I think Tom will be joining us as well. He’ll jump on in a bit. But while we’re letting people jump into the chat and we’re getting things going here, I saw. Well, I know from talking to you as well, but also I saw you post some stuff. You’re up on the Gold Coast last weekend. You had a trip up there, and I’m kind of a little bit jealous.

 

I mean, I was up there a few weeks ago myself, but I’m a little bit jealous because it’s actually quite cold down here in Melbourne and weather’s much nicer up there, that’s for sure. It’s also a lot whiter up there by comparison to here, although they’re obviously encountering the same demographic issues. I saw you trained with the Brisbane EAM [European Australian Movement] boys over the weekend, a good bunch of guys. I trained with them a few weeks ago when I was there.

 

But, yeah, just curious how it was, how your trip was? Maybe you could talk about that before we get into some of these other topics.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it was busy. A friend of mine bought a house up there and needed help. He called in a favor, owed him a favor. He needed help with a fence. So it only took like half a day, though. It was only like a small strip of fence. So I didn’t actually spend a lot of time at the property. I got to train with the guys, got to explore the beaches. Surfers Paradise. And I didn’t realize Surfers Paradise was a kind of like a party place, people, because I never went to schoolies. You know, in Australia we have something called “schoolies”.

 

Wherever you finish school, you turned 18, you’re a legal adult, you’re done with your schooling process, your official high school process, and everyone goes to Surfers Paradise or the Gold Coast or maybe even the Sunshine Coast. Where do they go? I think they go to Surfers Paradise. Do they? I don’t know for sure, but I never did that. Right. I was a bad kid. [chuckling] I left school early. I was getting into fights on the streets and just getting into all sorts of things that you would hope that your own kid doesn’t do, right? So I didn’t go to parties. I didn’t go to clubs. I’d never really even attended a birthday party, right?

 

So for the first time, I got to see Surfers Paradise. And, yeah, I enjoyed it. I published a vlog, which was actually pretty fun to make, because I get really bored in transit, sitting on buses, airplanes, waiting for things, and it gave me something to do during that process.

 

But the reason I made the vlog I outlined on Telegram already is for the purposes of utilizing what I suppose we’ll call “lifestyle content”, which can potentially humanize us or contribute to humanizing members of our community. That is the Right-wing Australian nationalist community down here. Because the media, government establishment, it’s really done a number on us. It’s forced this stereotype, imposed this stereotype onto us, that we are vulgar, hateful extremists and probably violent and need to be sent to jail.

 

But in reality, we’re pretty normal people. We have pretty sensible interests. We go to the gym, we have jobs, we bank, unless our bank accounts get closed down for our political views. But then we just go to a different bank, as we discussed last time.

 

But, yeah, the idea is to just do regular stuff, document some of that regular stuff, have a bit of fun, and put that out there. So it will provide a bit of counterbalance to the efforts by the system to have everyone believing that nationalism is some horrible evil. You know, that’s what I had in mind anyway. And what do you think about that, Joel? Have you thought about that on any level?

 

Joel Davis: No, I definitely think it’s important that we show our human side because, yeah, people have to relate to us. I mean, it is cool to have a little bit of that, the mystique of being the kind of controversial, intimidating, scary Nazis or whatever that the media image puts out. Like, I think in some ways that actually gives us a little gravitas, but at the same time, it also makes us alienating to the wider population. That’s part of the reason why we do these streams, not just to kind of provide political analysis, but also just to kind of show that we’re just normal human beings. We’re not exactly normal. We are a little bit abnormal. We’re unique! That’s a good thing, though.

 

But to show that we’re human, to show that you can relate to us and that it’s a relatable worldview, that the perspective that we’re coming at the world from is authentic. And to try and show that authenticity so that people can basically identify with us and identify with our perspective.

 

And that’s ultimately the goal, is for White Australians who don’t hate themselves, who want to assert themselves, actually, to have political representation that they can identify with. That’s the problem with the current culture and politics of our country, is that it doesn’t exist. There isn’t political representation for us, and we’re kind of doing our best to try and lay a foundation for that to come into existence.

 

So it’s important that the people see us in human terms or see us as just one of them coming from the same perspective, the same stock, the same culture. So they can see the world through our eyes, as opposed to just seeing us as these kind of weird, ambiguous kind of what the media calls us “extremists” or whatever, …

 

[06:09]

 

Blair Cottrell: But they do that very deliberately. Like, this is an effort to dehumanize. And your enemies are always going to do that. They’re going to try to dehumanize you in order to justify whatever action they want to take against you.

 

And I think we need to make a bit of an effort to re-humanize ourselves because we’ve been hit pretty hard with that, the guys on the Right-wing.

 

But how’s your week being my friend? You’ve been working, you’ve been busy? You’re always doing podcasts, you’re always appearing here, there and everywhere.

 

So you’re this sort of guy. I was thinking about this earlier today. I was thinking:

 

“Joel’s the sort of guy who just has energy all the time!”

 

You can just do stuff whenever you can work to a schedule, onto the next thing, onto the next thing, onto the next thing. I wish I could do that. I run out of energy. I burn out, and I need, like, two or three days by myself in a dark room to recharge. I, like, have a good amount of excitable energy when I do have energy, but when I’m done, I’m done! But you don’t seem to be like that. You’ve got that consistent energy. Have you noticed that?

 

Joel Davis: Well, I don’t know, it definitely fluctuates, but, I guess yeah, I don’t really understand the whole needing to go into a dark room for two to three days thing that you just described. I’ve never really experienced that before, that kind of need.

 

So I guess we’re not the same in that way. But yeah, I did a few things this week. Like, over the weekend, I did a Twitter space with Uber Boy, who’s a Irish youtuber.

 

And it seems like he’s come around to ethno-nationalism in, I don’t know exactly when he came around what the exact dating was. He always was kind of peripheral to the dissident Right scene online. But he seems to have now gone full., … I don’t know if he’s gone mask off or if he just developed ideologically.

 

But yeah, he defends ethno-nationalism now quite explicitly, which I think is great because he has about 100,000 followers on YouTube. But his YouTube is more about Jungian kind of psychoanalysis and Nietzsche and different philosophers and, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, can you get away with ethnic nationalism on YouTube? Or is that the kind of thing that will get you censored?

 

Joel Davis: Well, that’s the thing. Like, his videos are more about intellectual subjects or what have you. And he markets them quite well to get clicks. And he has some videos that do very well. He has like, 100,000 subscribers.

 

So obviously he’s been doing this for a while. But also on Twitter. He’s on Twitter. He’s quite explicit about his ethno-nationalism.

 

So anyway, we did a Twitter space together. We never had a chat before that was quite good. I thought we talked about the spiritual aspects of race and so on. So that was quite good.

 

And then I want to start doing more Twitter Spaces. Actually, after this show, I’m going to take a little break, maybe like 15 minutes, half an hour, and then I’m going to fire up a Twitter space, actually, with Pox Populi, who is from Europe, but he has an English accent, so presumably he’s English in some way.

 

But I think he lives in Europe. I don’t know exactly his full background. I’ve never spoken to him before either. But I appreciate his posting, and the articles that he writes sometimes at Counter-Currents. You know, he’s definitely a White nationalist. That’s very explicit. Smart guy, you know, good energy on social media. So that should be interesting conversation for us to have after this, if you’re interested. So I’ll be on, as I said, I’ll fire up on Twitter. I’ll post the link on my Telegram. But you can, if you follow me on Twitter, you’ll see it.

 

I want to start doing more Twitter Spaces. I think Twitter, or X, as it’s now called, is a great medium for having some kinds of having conversations and basically reaching the audiences. And you know, obviously, we do things on Rumble. I did a stream a couple days ago on Rumble here with Steve Laws, who’s another White nationalist from the UK. Another great guy doing really well on social media, but also in real life. He actually is running for Parliament in the upcoming elections, but he’s been around for some time and has made a name for himself over there in their scene.

 

So that was an interesting conversation, and I appreciate what he does.

 

So, yeah, I’m trying to do have conversations with people around the world in the scene, from different countries, and I think it’s always good content. It’s always interesting. But, yeah, like, I think Twitter, actually, I’m going to look into if I can start broadcasting this show on Twitter, actually, as well, addition to the other platforms.

 

But I think the Twitter space is a great. Is a great platform. And also you can kind of bring the audience on at the end and, like, let them ask questions or make statements and be interactive. And that could be kind of shit sometimes because some people are retards and they don’t know how to be interesting when they speak. That’s why they’re in the audience, and they should probably stay in the audience. But sometimes people say interesting things and they can provoke a conversation.

 

[11:22]

 

 

Blair Cottrell: So that reminds me, are you keeping an eye on the Superchats? Because I’m not doing that. Are you doing that?

 

Joel Davis: No, I haven’t, but here we go. We got one from Fellow Comrade. He said:

 

“I think Joel has that nighttime dark energy. Blair is a student of the sun.”

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, maybe I run on emotion. I know I don’t seem like I do, but I’m an emotional creature. I’m an intuitive creature. And I become emotionally exhausted, whereas Joel runs on something else. I don’t know what it is, but it’s not emotion. [chuckling] So obviously, it’s a more consistent energy source that Joel has. I envy it in a way.

 

But the good thing about emotion is, I suppose, when you’re using emotion for energy, it’s kind of like attaching a supercharger onto your engine, the engine that is your body, that is your mind. It just sort of kicks it up that next level sometimes, and you can really create a significant impact in a short time.

 

But what are we going to talk about tonight? Have we got Tom jumping on with us at any point?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, he is. He got held up by a personal matter that he’s dealing with. Yeah, like a kind of tragic circumstance happened to a mutual friend this week and he’s dealing with something to do with that. I don’t want to go into it on stream. But he’ll be on soon.

 

But I was going to say the first story this, well, he didn’t actually commit a terrorist attack, but it seems allegedly that he planned to. He was arrested. There was a manifesto spread around. The media reported on it. Newcastle in New South Wales was the location. Apparently he had a plan to behead a Labor party mp. And this guy in his manifesto stated that he wasn’t a White nationalist, but that he was Right-wing and that he kind of supported the Liberal Party but wasn’t associated with them. It was an interesting kind of story because basically he seemed to say that he was a conservative.

 

So we have a “conservative terrorist”, which is, I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.

 

So I wanted to talk about that. But that’s something that I think we really want to do when Tom is here because that you can imagine that’s really his wheelhouse.

 

So before we get into that, another major story I guess, from the last few days was the Trump-Biden debate. And I can definitely feel you that Blair did not watch this debate because he doesn’t give a shit about American politics. [chuckling] But I didn’t watch the whole thing. I tuned into the second half of it while I was at work. I just listened to it. And then I saw some of the reaction on social media and I saw some of the clips. I’ll actually play a couple of them.

 

Basically the overall vibe of the debate was that Biden was, we all know that Biden is senile, but the state of him was just horrible in this debate. He looked totally befuddled. And he was just talking with this really like weak voice. Even by his standards, he seems cooked.

 

And the reaction from Leftists said it all. Because I saw all these Leftist influencers on social media freaking out on CNN. CNN hosted the debate. And it was interesting that CNN were fair. They were totally fair in the way that it was where the debate was moderated, which is what you would see in previous iterations of the Trump debates. And then CNN’s analysis afterwards and a lot of these other kind of Left-wing networks. All their analysis was about:

 

“How can we replace Biden with somebody else to go up against Trump? There’s no way he can beat him in this state. He looked horrible out there.”

 

And some people are even speculating that he was set out there to take a fall so they could sub somebody else in his place because he’s been tanking in the polls and Trump is polling ahead of Biden nationally in all the swing states.

 

Anyway, this is interesting to break down not just because of:

 

“Who’s going to win, Trump or Biden?”

 

But there’s more subtle elements, I think, to this story which I have a theory about or, … And I’ve spoken about on the show before, but I want to unpack it. And that actually impacts Australia as well. It’s not just about what’s happening in the United States.

 

And then I’ll throw that to Blair. But before I get into that, I’ll play a couple of these clips for those who haven’t seen him. And, I mean, it’s actually quite funny. Trump is a scam artist, in my view. Like, he’s a master rhetorician and he’s got a great charisma and persona. But he’s just a businessman. He has the logic of a businessman, which means everything is a deal, everything is up for negotiation. There’s no principles there, really. And so I don’t respect him.

 

But anyway, I’ll play the clip.

Biden: We get total bans on, … Total initiative, … We can do more border control and more and [word unclear] them off, …

Moderator: President Trump?

Trump: I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don’t think he knows what he said either. Look., …

Joel Davis: Yeah, [chuckling] I said I don’t necessary respect Trump. But the guy is funny! The guy’s got a charisma. He’s got so much charisma that was., … [chuckling]

 

[16:51]

 

Blair Cottrell: That was to take advantage of a weak point in the other person’s sentence, very quickly. He’s listening and he’s looking for a way to just take advantage.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, yeah. It’s quite funny. This, this also, I mean, the state of Biden, …

 

Biden: We need to do childcare. Elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our healthcare system, making sure that we’re able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I’ve been able to do with the Covid, … Excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with, … Look, csif we finally beat Medicare!

Moderator: Thank you, President Biden. President Trump?

Trump: Well, he’s right. He did beat Medicare. He beat it to death and he’s destroying Medicare! Because all of these people are coming in. They’re putting them on Medicare. They’re putting them on, …

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Why did he say that? Why did he say “we beat”, did he mean to say:

 

“We beat Covid?”

 

Joel Davis: No. But, yeah, it was a total gaffe. He got muddled up with a few different points and mixed the words together. And the expressions on Trump’s face. He’s got such a hilarious face, the kind of, kind of way he postures and everything. It makes it quite comedic!

 

But overall, my impression of the debate, when I listen to it, Trump did do a good job of, he kept bringing a lot of issues back to the border and to not immigration legally. There’s a lot of controversy. A lot of Right-wingers are attacking Trump last week because he went on a podcast and talked about how America needs to bring more, basically make it easier for international students to stay in America and get work visas.

 

So I made the retort that the Democrat strategy is to import illegal Mexicans and the Republican strategy is to deport the Mexicans and replace them with Indians, because that’s basically you know, the same kinds of demographics of international students we get here, the Asians, the Indians and so on, the same ones they get in America, really. And Trump basically proposed saying:

 

“Well, anyone gets a degree here, they should just get work Visa rights and just be allowed to stay.”

 

And so a lot of people were criticizing him for that, just kind of swapping illegal immigration for legal immigration. You know, it’s still White genocide. It’s still demographic replacement. That’s not what people are voting for Trump for.

 

But anyway, he’s obviously known as being quite strong on the southern border and is committed to deporting the illegal immigrants in a kind of mass deportation scheme and closing up the southern border and so on.

 

So he was playing to his strength a lot, while Biden was just, I mean, the real story of the bit was how horrific Biden was.

 

But when I first turned on the debate, which is about halfway into the debate, they immediately started arguing about who is doing more for blacks. They were talking about immigration. Sorry, they were talking about economic issues. And Trump was saying:

 

“Oh like, the inflation, and the lack of jobs, it’s so bad for black families, it’s so bad for Hispanic families.”

 

Didn’t say White families! It’s all about black families and everything that he’s done for blacks. And:

 

“I did this when I was president for blacks and that for blacks!”

 

And then Biden’s like:

 

“No, I do more for blacks than you!”

 

And it was just like, ugh!

 

Blair Cottrell: Would it be accurate to say that Trump may already have the majority White vote? And so he doesn’t feel it’s necessary to really focus in on the White working class specifically. He’s trying to get the Hispanic and African, African-American vote. Maybe that’s why he’s going into bat for them.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, obviously he’s been doing that the whole time. I mean, he’s been doing that the whole time. He’s trying to play to African-Americans. And in particular, the black vote for some reason, the whole time. Ever since he became president it’s been an obvious strategy. It seems to actually be working with recent polling.

 

But anyway, the point is that playing to them is one thing, but then he doesn’t play to the White voters. He, like, why can’t he say “White families” as well? Is he worried that if you say White families, that’s going to offend the black voters? The black voters, they don’t want him to say black families and White families. They want him to just say black families and not White families or something. And the Whites, you can just take their votes for granted:

 

“They’ll vote for me anyway.”

 

So, you know:

 

“Fuck them!”

 

I really don’t appreciate that attitude. So it’s quite obviously they were arguing over who is doing more for Israel and who defends Israel better than the other person and who takes care of blacks better than the other person. And there was this meme that was spread around, like, satirizing this before the debate. They literally did the meme.

 

So, yeah, overall, the debate was a kind of where it wasn’t comedic. I mean, there was one comedic part, actually where Trump was talking about how great he’s in great shape and how good he is at golf and all this stuff. And then Biden came back saying that:

 

“Oh, no, I had my handicapped down to a six and I’ll take you out to the golf course and I’ll beat you.”

 

And then Trump was kind of quite funny, dismissing Biden, saying:

 

“You know, I’ve seen your swing. It’s not a good swing. We’ve all seen your swing, it’s a terrible swing!”

 

And all this shit! It was actually kind of funny.

 

[22:16]

 

 

But that was like the, almost like the highlight of the debate was them arguing about golf. And it just shows the absolute state of American politics, that’s the level of discourse. But it was kind of quite funny, actually. But overall, the reason why I wanted to talk about this isn’t just analyzing these details as entertaining as some of this stuff was, but more to talk about what are the broader implications? Because Trump was behind Biden in the polls, up until basically October last year. When Israel goes to war with the Palestinians in October last year, then things start to flip. The media starts to flip. All of these legal cases and so on against Trump. They just kind of become de emphasized, and Trump just becomes kind of accepted by larger and larger portion of the American elite as a legitimate candidate again, after they had spent years saying that he should be put in jail, that he tried to overthrow the government in illegal insurrection. And the way that when he was president, it was like priority number one was getting him out of office.

 

The hostility of large portions of the media and American elite in general has really died down. Hundreds of millions of dollars worth of donations have come in from Zionist jews into the Trump campaign. Big, big money has come in in recent months!

 

And in addition, you’ve got the Elon Musk takeover of Twitter. It does seem as though that there’s a mood shift in a portion of the American elite, of, particularly the Zionist element, which is obviously quite a significant element of the American elite. Where, like I said, CNN were very fair in how they conducted this debate, and then they let the story be about how much Biden sucked.

 

They’ve taken the boot off the throat of Donald Trump. Why is this the case? My speculation, my view is that since Israel was attacked and we’re hearing stories now that Israel are planning to invade Lebanon and go to war with Hezbollah, there’s the [word unclear] that they have with Iran that they need America’s help with as well. We’ve got tensions rising in East Asia between China and Taiwan. That issue isn’t going anywhere. And my view is that if China do decide to invade Taiwan, that that means World War Three. The Americans will go to war with China under that circumstance.

 

And I can talk about why I think that’s definitely the case if people want to hear that. But that means we’re at war with China under those circumstances, and it’s World War Three. I don’t think it would necessarily be a ground war, depending on what happens with the Koreas. Maybe if North and South Korea have a ground war, we could end up putting ground troops to defend South Korea from North Korea. But I don’t really see much ground war be more a naval and air battle between US and China.

 

Blair Cottrell: It wouldn’t be ideal for Australia to be directly or by proxy at war with China. There’s a company in Australia that maintains all of our electrical infrastructure, power lines, power stations. This company is responsible for., … It’s the only company that’s actually allowed to repair power lines and, like, service power stations and keep the power in Australia going. The electricity. That company is called Zinfra. It’s Chinese owned. The Chinese own the rights and maintenance processes for all electricity. I don’t know if it’s Zinfra nationwide, but it’s Zinfra in Victoria, the state where we live.

 

I discovered that because a couple of friends of mine were working for Zinfra, and they discovered that China was the majority shareholder for the company.

 

So they’ve bought our electricity, you might say.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean, China owns all kinds of stuff. And not to mention they’re a number one trade partner. Various industries are dependent upon trade with China.

 

But the thing is, if we went to war with China, I see the Australian government would basically just seize a lot of these assets.

 

So a lot of companies and infrastructure that is owned by Chinese nationals or corporations would just be seized by the Australian government. Under those circumstances, there’s nothing that China could do to stop it! We would just use the war as a pretext to seize it all. So that is less of a concern.

 

Blair Cottrell: Might be a good thing to go to war with China then, in that case, because we could re nationalize some industry.

 

Joel Davis: I think it would ultimately be a net positive if war with China happens for quite a few reasons. But before I get into those reasons, that’s a controversial take. Obviously, there’s a lot in the pros and cons.

 

But before I get into that, the my overall theory of why Musk has maybe basically been allowed to buy Twitter and there’s been enough support that he’s been able to kind of entrench himself there, after there was a kind of reaction by the elite initially, he first took over. And why the media mood is shifting in the United States, why Trump is being accepted by the American elite largely as a legitimate candidate and treated more fairly, is, I think there’s a prevailing mood that if there’s going to be a war with China, you need patriotic Whites behind the state. And you’re not going to be able to get patriotic Whites behind the state if you have woke Leftism, basically running everything.

 

[28:13]

 

But if you can provide the kind of illusion that we’re winning, that conservative patriotism is coming back, and the border is getting shut down, and we’re going to wind back the excesses of wokeness. This year I’m sure everyone has noticed the Pride celebrations have been far weaker than in previous years. I haven’t really seen much to do with it being promoted that widely. Obviously, there’s still the gay community and it’s doing what it does, but it’s not at the same level of cultural saturation that it was in previous years. The LGBT pride stuff. I see that being wound back.

 

And I see a kind of a move with many elements of the American elite connected to the national security apparatus, like someone like Elon Musk, and connected to the Zionists, again, like Elon Musk, but other elites as well, obviously. That they are concerned about, well, how are we going to manage a war with China? How are we going to protect Israel if we have woke Leftists in charge? That the woke Left elite, like the people who run the Democrat Party or run the Labor Party in Australia, they support Israel because they’re bought off and manipulated by Zionist influence networks. But their entire base of support is anti-Israel.

 

And so they kind of got one hand tied behind their back in how much they can help Israel. And they provide concessions to Palestine and they provide a weaker level of support to Israel than what, if, you know, conservatives are in power, can do. Because their base is better propagandized into supporting zionism. Largely because they perceive the media narrative, does a very good job of presenting the pro-Palestine position as the Leftist position, and so they just take the opposite position.

 

But anyway, the point is that I can see Trump being allowed to win now precisely because of these dynamics. And that has major implications. Why would the American elite allow Trump to stroll into power after spending years trying to get him out of power, trying to obstruct his presidency, trying to put him in jail, trying to prevent him from running again? Why would they do all of that? And now they take the boot off the neck.

 

You know, there’s got to be a reason that doesn’t just happen by accident. I’m not saying they all sit in a room smoking cigars and all the jews get together and they’re like:

 

“What’s our next move?”

 

But it’s just a mood shift. It’s a vibe shift. I think Israel being attacked causes a shift in mood.

 

Blair Cottrell: What do you mean? You’re not suggesting that happens? That probably does happen. And Trump’s probably in there with them! [chuckling] I mean, certainly some hands have been shaken behind some closed doors. Obviously, this kind of shift in social politics doesn’t just happen. Sure, there is some organic nationalism, I think, resurging, resurfacings but I do think that there’s also an agenda laced in there, obviously.

 

I just don’t know. People like us, all we can do is speculate, right? All we can do is speculate and ride the wave and do the best we can to influence people in the direction we want them to think, the way we want them to think.

 

By the way, guys, I’m like, I wasn’t going to say anything, but I’m really under slept. I had a really bad sleep the last two nights in a row, and I feel my memories kind of like, overlapping each other.

 

So I’m going to let Joel, like, really drive this stream tonight. I’m only going to chime in on occasion because, yeah, I’m just really tired. But I’m staying with it and I’m paying attention, so don’t fear.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we’re just, we’re cruising. We’re just hanging out.

 

I got a few Entropy chats my Superchats one from Kay, who said:

 

“Shout out to all the racists in northeast Victoria and Riverina region. Our EAM [European Australian Movement] chapter is in the country’s fastest, is the fastest growing regional chapter in the country. Stop contemplating and step up to join us. We need you!”

 

I guess there’s a call to people who live basically in southern New South Wales or northern Victoria to get involved. They do have a chapter up there which is growing very quickly. Healer Waffen sent $10. He said:

 

“Hello from the USA. The most retarded thing a non-White has said to me was that it’s not possible for two blue eyed people to make a blue eyed baby!”

 

Yeah, well, that obviously is just retarded and wrong. I mean, both my parents have blue eyes, and so do I, so it’s obviously false. [chuckling] But so does, like, every other blue eyed person pretty much that now has two blue eyed parents.

 

Blair Cottrell: Sometimes you even see parents who both have brown eyes have a kid with blue eyes because of some genetic throwback.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, of course it can happen.

 

And I think it’s like, if one has blue and one has green or brown, it’s like a 50-50, I think. But if two blue eyed parents have kids with each other, I think it’s like 99.9% of the kids have blue eyes or something. It’s like, or 100%. It’s like it almost never happens that you can get a non-blue eyed baby from two blue eyed parents. I believe.

 

Blair Cottrell: I wonder what the esoterics are around blue eyes?

 

I mean, there’s not many blue eyed people left in the world, in the scale of humanity.

 

And I wonder what ties into that. I suppose that’s something I’ll think a little bit about in the next week.

 

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Joel Davis: Blue eyes enable your fellow man to see exactly where you’re looking. And so blue eyes reveal your will and intention to other human beings in a very explicit way. So blue eyes are an indication of a pure will, a pure intention! The Aryan is of a noble race. We have blue eyes because we have pure intent.

 

And this also, you know, it does count us all for the green eyed people, because it’s quite clear where a green eyed person is looking. And even Hazel eyes. A lot of Europeans have Hazel eyes. Hazel and brown, not the same. If you see someone from, like, India or Africa or something, that you can. They’re the brown eyes are, like, literally, like, so dark, they almost look black, right?

 

Whereas, like, if you see a European with so-called brown eyes, usually they’re Hazel. It’s a very light color. Sometimes it can be almost yellow. And that’s also very rare in the world. And that’s also only Europeans have that eye color, except for you can find some Indo Aryan, Indo-European migrations into the Middle East and so on, and northern Asia in general, and you’ll see lighter eyes pop up in those regions because of that.

 

But other than those exceptions or like a very White Hispanic or something, it’s because of the European genes, only, like, pure White Europeans have those lighter shades of eye color. All the other races, … And the exceptions that I gave are just people who are actually basically, like, majority European ancestry. So it’s still the same thing. Everyone of another race has just dark eyes.

 

Blair Cottrell: You could say the same about skin tone as well, Joel. Like, if, obviously, if you have a lighter skin tone, then it’s easier to see facial expressions.

 

And again, it’s easier to know the intent of the person. Maybe that’s why dogs are racist as well? Because I know that dogs read facial expressions when they’re looking at you. They’re trying to pick up as much information as possible. And dogs, just notoriously don’t like black people. They don’t trust black people unless if they’re raised by black people. I’m sure it’s different.

 

But I’ve had a couple of dogs, and they really didn’t like people with a darker colored skin. Probably just because they had the bias of being raised by a White family, maybe? Or it could be because they can’t read the facial expressions as well, because it is harder to see, especially if the lights failing. It’s harder to see what’s crossing through the eyes and the faces of people of darker complexion or darker eye color. Yeah, that’s a good point. I didn’t think of it that way.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it also shows genetic purity. Like, my blue eyes are an indication of the fact that I have, like millions of ancestors with blue eyes, that have that breed with other blue eyed people over literally like a million years to create me.

 

And so there’s pure breeding that creates me. Whereas someone that has dark eyes, there’s impure breeding to create that because anything can create that.

 

So, yeah, there’s a lot to this. One day, we could probably do like a whole, like 20 minutes., …

 

Blair Cottrell: I think Joel was just cut out. Unless that’s my Internet, that’s the problem. But usually lately, Joel’s Wi-Fi or Internet connection has been a little bit sketchy. So I’m sure he’ll be back in a moment or two. But these topics that we raise, these conversations, they’re always very interesting to me and this is the kind of stuff that I really like to get down into, to explore.

 

But I think Joel’s just re-emerging from the failing Australian Internet connection. Ever since the government took over., …

 

Joel Davis: Give me 10 seconds.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, sure. Ever since the government took over management of Australian Internet with, what do they call it? NBN, National Broadband Network, I think. It just doesn’t work properly. And it’s just so stereotypical, right? The government takes over a formerly private sector and, like, can’t do the job as well or just can’t do it at all! [chuckling] That’s kind of what part of the reason why communism fails, I think because everyone who ends up running the country is some academic who did nothing but learn about life inside the four walls of a classroom. But that’s not going to teach you about agriculture. Like being a, you know, fifth generation farmer in that nation is going to teach you about agriculture.

 

So you’re back on, mate. You’re all good?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, yeah. Sorry about that. I just switched to another connection.

 

But, yeah, one day in the future we’ll discuss, we’ll go deeper into the blue eye question, I think. Because, yeah, there’s a lot. There’s not a lot. There’s a small minority of people who are of southern European ancestry who see that me for being Chauvinistic about a kind of like, Celto-Germanic supremacist view that I have. A Nordicism, if you will., …

 

Blair Cottrell: You do have this view? Is that the view you have?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but the thing is that the populations of southern Europe, there are people in those populations that have more racial purity than people who are from, …

 

So you’ll see people, someone that could be from England, and you can just tell by looking at them that they’re less racially pure than someone that could be from Italy, but they look more Nordic, they look more northern European in their orientation.

 

Blair Cottrell: You say you can tell by looking at them. What is it about someone that indicates that they are less racially pure?

 

Joel Davis: What do you mean? You can just see if their traits show that they have some non-European ancestry that has bled in, and then also you have different host populations. So you’ve got the Indo-Aryans. I mean, you’ve got the kind of European farmers and so on.

 

[40:00]

artering. Like, it was kind of more like sharing, to be honest. But everyone had to till the same lands and live amongst one another and marry themselves off and their children off to one another’s sons and daughters. We had a culture that was built around a community that had to trust one another. If you mistreated somebody under those conditions, there was no getting away with it. Were optimized for being honest. Like then in the upper classes at this time, you’ve got medieval chivalry and these like the virtues of like honor, the European conception of kind of like these heroic romances that are like the stories of the Middle Ages and even the Renaissance. No other people have these traits where the European is predisposed to just being real, to being truthful, to our own detriment, it doesn’t matter, whereas these other races are like this, …

 

You look at National Socialism in Germany. To answer your original questions I remember sitting at the table with you when I came around for dinner one night and you were talking about your experiences when you read Mein Kampf. And what made Mein Kampf hit you different, you said, was because you opened it and you read it, and you were like:

 

“Wow! Like, he literally said everything he was gonna do. He published a book. Everyone in Germany read it, and then he did it. Like, that’s like, what politician does that? What politician says, this is exactly what I’m about. This is what I believe, and this is what I’m gonna do. Here’s my book on what I’m gonna do!”

 

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Blair Cottrell: That almost never happens. Right?

 

Joel Davis: Exactly! That is what makes National Socialism different. Jews would never operate like this! Never! Because the jews, a merchant race, is a race that is optimized for scamming. It’s optimized for these limited interactions. And it’s a uprooted, diasporic race.

 

Okay, now they’ve got Israel and zionism, but that’s a very recent thing. For thousands of years, they were just traveling around, and how much can they extract out of an interaction until, basically they get kicked out, or someone gets wise to their shit and they move on to the next victim, and then to the next victim, and then to the next victim! That’s what they’re optimized for. They’re optimized for subversion, for deception and so on. So it’s completely different.

 

So when you say, like, what jews are very, like in-group loyal, and we need to become in-group loyal, and the National Socialism was all about Germans becoming in-group loyal, it’s like, yeah, okay. In that sense, it’s the same. But the methodology is totally different. Like, the way in which we honor our ingroup is not the same as how they operate. It just simply isn’t.

 

But we can learn from them in the sense that they practice in-group loyalty. And we can see the power of their in-group loyalty, but also their power comes from their deception. And that is something that will never really vibe with us. We have to walk the path of authenticity in order to bring Aryans together to take up a struggle, because that’s just how we’re wired.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right! Right. Let me chime in here because we’ve had a Superchat. That’s kind of important. It’s J. Parabellum wants you to check the chat for moderation purposes. I think we get the same people causing a bit of trouble in there. But while you sort that out, …

 

Joel Davis: White Power also said:

 

“Who were some other revolutionaries, politicians, etcetera, besides Hitler, that you guys are enthusiasts of?”

 

That’s a question that you can answer, I think.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, before I do, I was going to say, in regards to learning from jewish in-group preferencing, Hitler actually summarized it perfectly in Mein Kampf, he said:

 

“If there is only one race on the earth, one human race, …”

 

Meaning like one specific sub group, like Italian or German or jewish or something like that:

 

“If only one of those nation tribes is preserving its ethnic identity and none of the others are, then the one that is preserving its identity must eventually rise to become master of the world!”

 

Yeah, so we see there that there’s an effort to subvert ethnic consciousness among non-jewish races. While the jewish race retains its ethnic consciousness. Not just retains, it, protects, it, reinforces it always, you see? And that’s summarized in Mein Kampf by Hitler.

 

But I had something else I wanted to go on to, but because I haven’t slept properly, … The amount of work that goes into those vlogs, the video editing, I can see why people pay to get that done for them.

 

I mean, I would rather do it myself because I want to convey certain messages at certain times. I want to edit it the way I want it edited. But I was doing that for the better part of three days, and that was also shuffling clients around, working. That was a lot of work. I’ve been staring at a screen so long this week, I’m not used to that much screen time. My eyes are burning and, yeah, my memory is failing me a little bit. So the next point I’ll come up with later.

 

But what was the question we got before I started speaking?

 

Joel Davis: Did you have any, other than Hitler, who are some other politicians that you admire also in history? There’s another Superchat on Odysee, by the way. I’m just going to read it out. $14.88 from Goy Boy. He said:

 

“Greetings from the 04:30 am work crew in the USA. Keep up the good work down under, lads.”

 

I appreciate that. But, yeah, so who is another political figure or statesman that you admire other than Hitler?

 

Blair Cottrell: Do you say it? Robespierre? Maximilian Robespierre.

 

Joel Davis: Robespierre, yeah, yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Robespierre. French Revolution. Even though he was sort of pro-revolution in the beginning, he changed his tune towards the end because he was, as far as I understand it, he was of the understanding that after the revolution, that the French aristocracy would be made part of the new revolutionary government. They would just have a seat at the table, but other people would be elevated to a relevant position as well, so they would all be on an equal playing field.

 

When he realized that the revolution was actually being used to kill the French aristocracy, he tried to turn on the revolution and was guillotined himself.

 

I read that a while ago, so don’t hold me to that. I don’t know what source that came from exactly, but just that sort of understanding that you’ve been misled, that you supported perhaps the wrong movement. I don’t know. I like that about Robespierre.

 

I also like Napoleon, like the real Napoleon, not the one played by Jacquin Phoenix in that movie that really missed the mark. Napoleon’s got some really base takes. He was a good mathematician. He wasn’t even French either. He was born in Corsica, which I think is an island off the coast of France. Is that right?

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. So that’s interesting about the former French emperor wasn’t even actually born in France, but close enough. I think maybe Corsica was French territory. I would say maybe not. I don’t know. They had their own army. I know that

 

Joel probably knows a lot more characters than I do, but off the top of my head, I don’t know. I’m a real Australian nationalist. I like my own history more than I do European history. I know a lot about European history because of what I learned about the Second World War as a young scamp.

 

But I was actually recently watching a video on YouTube. There was about someone. He was going through the notes that were written down by Irvin Rommel, who was one of the generals. One of Hitler’s generals, I think, for the German army.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. He led the African theater. He led the Germans in, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. And he had some interactions with Australian soldiers.

 

Joel Davis: They fought us, we fought them in North Africa.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah! But he really admired the Australian soldiers. And he made several notes in his diary, which made me feel quite proud to be Australian.

 

Firstly, that Australian men were seemingly larger and stronger than other soldiers of different countries, specifically the Italians. That we didn’t take prisoners. And so the Germans preferred not to fight us. Some of his soldiers actually asked him:

 

“Do we really have to go and fight the Australians? You know, can’t we go onto this other front?”

 

No one wanted to fight the Aussies! They were difficult to beat. And he actually took a photo himself that could have been problematic for him because it was during a charge or some sort of hostility between the Germans and the Australians.

 

And he admired the Australians so much that he actually pulled a camera out and took a photo of some of them fighting so he could take it back. And his son or his great grandson or something, still has that photo to this day.

 

It was a cool video, and it made you realize, or what made me realize that we have a real powerful history in Australia. Like, we’re a respected nation. We were a strong nation, strong policies when we were first in our infancy. Still a young nation, too.

 

So the damage that’s been done to our country, it’s a shame, but I don’t think it’s irreversible. Even hardened Nazi generals acknowledged that Australians were strong, rigorous, formidable enemies!

 

So that’s really something to behold.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I think Napoleon, interesting, undoubtedly Napoleon was an incredible strategist and Machiavellian operator. Politically and militarily. He’s one of the great military strategists period, in human history. But there is considerable evidence that he was funded by jewish elements. The ultimate impact that he had on Europe, I think, was negative. I think he developed, he was an accelerating figure towards the destruction of the old world, European aristocracies and so on.

 

And, yeah, I think he was ultimately destructive in European history. And he didn’t seem to actually really have any ethos fundamentally guiding him. It was just this kind of personal ascension to grandiosity and the deployment of strategy to be a kind of just vehicle of, yeah, just pure, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Your’re saying fundamentally he was always fighting for himself!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And I mean, you could, you could admire that in a certain way. I mean, obviously he’s a great man! Obviously he’s a great man! But at the same time, he wasn’t like he then could be used by other elements because, … It’s similar to the issue with Trump. Trump is nowhere near as great of a man as Napoleon.

 

But it’s similar in the sense that anyone can kind of buy a piece of Trump. Because for Trump, it’s about just kind of getting the job done.

 

Whereas that’s the difference between these figures and Hitler. Hitler was an uncompromising, pure ideologue! A man of heart and vision! It wasn’t about Hitler, it was about Germany, it was about the Aryan race. And that’s what kind of sets him apart from anyone else in modern history.

 

When you look at great figures of ancient history like Alexander the Great, or someone like that you see these similar traits, though, like a Napoleon, where it’s not really about an ethos, it’s about, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Ego.

 

Joel Davis: Just the kind of grandiose personal development.

 

And you know, again, I’m not going to stand in moral condemnation, because that’s just kind of how things are. There’s a lot of people like that in history. And the only crime of an Alexander the Great, or a Napoleon, is that they’re just like exceptional men. So they were able to go further than anyone else.

 

But that’s just, again, that’s just why, to me, like, Hitler stands apart. And it’s very hard to even compare another figure to him, because Hitler seemed to be kind of gripped by this spiritual conviction that was guiding his behavior that was totally transcendent.

 

Carl Jung thought that Wotan, or Odin incarnated in Hitler, that Hitler was just possessed by Wotan from his Germanic blood memory. That he was a pure force of the unconscious. He was the collective German unconscious or Aryan unconscious, as opposed to just being a mere mortal, basically. He was immortal, obviously not in his body, in spirit. You know, that actually kind of makes a lot of sense to me, to be honest. And I don’t think you could say the same about all of these other figures.

 

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Blair Cottrell: I think you get corrupted by the world and the people in it. I think we’re all pure in the beginning. And you start to see that subversive activities, dishonesty, lies, that can produce results.

 

And if you become results focused, then everything is just a means to an end. Everything’s a means to an end, and there’s nothing you won’t do to get to that end. You see that that works for other people, specifically in politics. And so you become tainted by those same habits.

 

But earlier on you said that I was remarking how honest Hitler was when he wrote his book in Landsberg prison, 1923, Mein Kampf, which means “My Struggle” or “My Fight”, was one of the first pieces of political philosophy I ever read.

 

But it’s more of an instructional. I don’t even really like to call it philosophy. It’s more of an instructional manual on how to take over Germany of that time and how he was going to do it and why he was going to do it.

 

And one of the parts that really stood out as incredible honesty was how he described propaganda. Basically, what he said in his chapter, War Propaganda, was:

 

“You, the average German citizen, have a small capacity for understanding. You’re not very good at thinking very deeply or very much. So we have to create simplistic, easy to understand slogans for you, and we have to put on a big spectacle to keep your attention and to keep you believing.”

 

“And so that’s what we’re going to do, and it’s going to work. We need to do it because we need to win! This is the way to win!”

 

So basically, he was telling people that they weren’t that clever, and that they needed to be managed in such a way, the material had to be adjusted to their capacity for understanding. And people read that, Germans, because it was the one of the most popular books in Germany at the time, Mein Kampf, I think, second only to the Bible. Germans were reading that and saying:

 

“Yep, okay, sounds right!”

 

You know what I mean?

 

Like, I don’t think any other politician, I don’t think any other revolutionary has actually explained to his own followers what propaganda is, how he’s going to use it, and why they just use propaganda and hope that people won’t actually notice what they’re doing or they can’t be bothered explaining it, or they think it’ll offend people and so they try to hide their intentions.

 

So when I said that, I was impressed by the honesty, or not really impressed, just almost bewildered by the honesty and the fact that that produced results, you know, that’s what I meant specifically.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I think Tom was held up when that call, but he’s going to jump on briefly here because I want to discuss, here he is. Hey, Tom, how you doing, man?

 

I want to segue, actually wanted to talk a little bit about war with China. Maybe I could save that to the end if we have some time building off what I was saying before about, I think ZOG kind of permitting the right to reassert itself a little bit to maybe galvanize patriotic elements behind wars potentially for Israel or against China in the coming years.

 

But before we get into that, I want to talk about this is the biggest story in Australia in recent days, and the media hasn’t talked about it that much? I guess it doesn’t really fit their narrative too well, but it was discussed. This is The Noticer article, as opposed to giving you the mainstream media article.

 

So Liberal Party supporter, because his manifesto, I did skim through it, he did state that he sympathized with the Liberal Party:

 

“19 year old guy from Newcastle in New South Wales charged over alleged failed terrorist attack.”

 

I’ll just read from the article here, quote:

 

“A teenager who allegedly intended to kill a Labor politician.”

 

He said in his manifesto, by the way, he wanted to behead him:

 

“In a failed attempted terrorist attack in Newcastle, allegedly expressed his support for Liberal Party in a manifesto published online. Jordan Patten, 19, appeared by audio visual link in Newcastle Local Court on Thursday morning charged with a single count of other acts done in preparation for or planning for a terrorist attack. Patten, from Raymond Terrace, New South Wales, was arrested at 01:35 pm after allegedly traveling to Labor MP Tim Crakanthorp’s office in tactical gear armed with knives. The court heard Patten was accused of going to the MP’s office, quote, ‘with intent to kill him due to his position as a Member of Parliament and in preparation of planning a terror attack’. He allegedly livestreamed himself entering Mr Cackanthorp’s office before leaving again and walking to the Newcastle museum. Police then alleged that he left the museum and ended the stream before being arrested by officers with tasers nearby., … Noticer News understands that the 205 page manifesto allegedly written by Patten, the author claimed to be Right-wing, but not a White nationalist, or a nationalist. Allegedly stated he was not a member of any groups or political movements, but like the Liberal Party. Police alleged the manifesto expressed extreme hatred for the Labor Party and intentions to kill Labor politicians and alleged that Patten admitted to being the author. The Daily Telegraph has reported. He also allegedly wrote long passages about the Iraq war, the Solomon Islands, war crimes, pedophilia, gender ideology, and on Left and Right politics. Referring to the police facts, acting magistrate Anthony Spence told the court there were strong Overtones of mental health issues.”

 

But yeah, basically, I skimmed over this and my, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Hang on a second! Who is this guy? What’s his name?

 

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Joel Davis: The attempted failed terrorist? Terrorist? What was his name again? It was. I just closed the article. One second. He’s a White Aussie, if that’s what you’re after.

 

Blair Cottrell: Where is he from?

 

Joel Davis: Raymond Terrace, which is New South Wales. Newcastle is like 2 hours north of Sydney.

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay. I just recognized that little advertisement on the side there. Australian Sporting Care or something. I think I know the guy who runs that company and I’m thinking, what’s that doing there? It’s not him. That was the expected terrorist, was it? [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: No, no, no! It’s just an ad on The Noticer website.

 

Blair Cottrell: Okay, right, right. Okay.

 

Joel Davis: But yeah, I skimmed over. I didn’t, obviously, it’s a 205 page manifesto. The guy is pretty unintelligent and a lot of it was quite rambling. So it was pretty tedious.

 

And it had long diatribes about very banal political analysis. Just talking about how, you know, women out of control with the OnlyFans these days. And Sky News is taken over by Zionist. And his Twitter, alleged Twitter account, you can see that he’s following a bunch of these anti-zionist accounts, retweeting them, and he’s following a lot of edgy conservative accounts, but not proper White nationalist accounts. And he had a whole section talking about White nationalists and how White nationalists were all losers apparently we’ve already lost, so we just need to get over it. And he did acknowledge that anti-White racism is permitted, but within that kind of civic nationalist, conservative framework of like:

 

“Oh, so you can be racist against White people, but you can’t be racist against non-Whites.”

 

And then he even said in preparation for his attack that:

 

“Oh, I’m going to be attacking a White person. The media will probably call me racist even though I’m a White person. Attacking a White person. How ridiculous is that?”

 

So this guy literally seems to be like a civic nationalist, like a kind of, I would say someone who would maybe vote for One Nation or something, but with the kind of flipped position on Israel. I guess they’re a younger guy online and younger Right-wingers are more anti-Israel because of how the social media landscape has changed discussion around that issue in Right-wing spaces.

 

But other than that, he’s pretty straight down the line, like, standard conservative on most issues. And that’s not someone that is stereotypically predisposed to engaging in terrorism.

 

Blair Cottrell: No. Definitely not.

 

Joel Davis: So it’s quite interesting. And the media, I think, at first tried to call him a neo-Nazi and then changed because they realized that was inaccurate, wouldn’t stick.

 

And so the story is kind of dissipated. But what I said initially was if he didn’t condemn White nationalism and they could pin White nationalism on him, this would be the number one story in the country. They’d be saying they need to go after us and that we need to be shut down and that we’re responsible in some way. But when he said that he likes the Liberal Party and so on, there’s no:

 

“Liberal Party is encouraging extremism, and conservatism is an extremist, or classical liberalism is an extremist ideology that leads to terrorism and all this stuff!”

 

No one is saying that, obviously. And it would seem absurd! It just shows how absurd their narrative is when it’s directed towards us.

 

That if even some lunatic who purports to have White nationalist sympathies goes and does a terrorist attack, it doesn’t mean. It doesn’t mean anything with respect to what our ideology is in the same respect as anyone committing terrorism above any ideology does, because the act of terrorism is not contained in any of these specific ideologies. It’s a totally independent vector.

 

And also the way that the state has responded to this, it just shows that they don’t care about “extremism leading to terrorism” or anything like that in an authentic way. They just use this as a pretext to go after ideological opposition. It’s not actually about stopping terrorism.

 

Blair Cottrell: Do, you know, anything about this story, Tom? Have you heard about this yet? You’ve been pretty busy this week, so, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I read the story. To me, it just as soon as the story came out, I thought to myself:

 

“Okay, let’s consider the facts.”

 

So I’m not sure if Joel is allowed to put up the photos or if the media has already done it. But there’s photos of his kit. His terrorist kit already.

 

Blair Cottrell: I was going to ask you. Did you see any equipment he had? And how serious was he based on your observation?

 

Thomas Sewell: He had like a eight dollar Craftright hammer. You know, like the worst, cheapest, shittiest brand. Like, you walk into Bunnings and you say, could I have your cheapest, shittiest brand of hammer?

 

Blair Cottrell: The kind of hammer that You’d be laughed off the site. Or like if you actually walked on a job site with a hammer like that.

 

Thomas Sewell: You wouldn’t be allowed on a job site unless you were just like kind of hitting old rusty nails out of like used to 45, 90 planks. Yeah. And then he had like a PVC saw or like a really crappy wood saw. I used one of those to cut PVC when I put it in sumps or do downpipes.

 

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So he was ready to do downpipes. He had his kit ready. He was ready to hammer in some nails and cut some PVC.

 

So this person’s obviously really mentally ill. My other initial thoughts were. And completely unprepared. So there was like a kitchen knife. But again, why would you use a kitchen knife? That’s just ridiculous!

 

And Liberal Party, they’re just not sending their best these days! Liberal Party terrorists are not very good terrorists. They’re very, very poorly organized. The Liberal Party should definitely consider what it’s doing with that!

 

But also, I just want to remind everyone that the Australian Federal Police got caught recently grooming a 13 year old mentally retarded Muslim boy to commit a terror attack. And we’re in the middle of a Senate inquiry at the moment into Right-wing extremism. This guy could be considered broadly Right-wing. He’s definitely not a White nationalist. He’s definitely not National Socialist, and he’s not a member of any of our organizations.

 

And another thing that I’d like to mention, I’m not sure if you’ve already covered on stream, is we all got a direct message on Telegram recently from a journalist from the Australian, Alexi Dematraities [sp]. And I think he’s a Greek male. And he, because Alexi, when I got the message out, I was like:

 

“It must be a woman journalist.”

 

But no, I think it’s a Greek guy. And he messaged us about a day before this terror attack, saying, basically:

 

“Do you agree or do you, ..?”

 

I mean, I’ll just read out the message, unless Joel wants to put it up.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’m just thinking, Tom, while you find the message, because he must watch our streams.

Thomas Sewell: He does, he does.

Blair Cottrell: Because he asks questions pertaining to the streams. We’ve triggered him! We’ve triggered him with our anti-medi, anti-Greek rants a couple of weeks ago, and now he’s going after us. Now he’s on our asses, guys! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Maybe. But yeah, I can read it out here. He says:

 

“Hi, Alexi here from the Australian newspaper.”

 

And this was sent June 25th. So that was on Tuesday. I believe this terror attack, or fake terror attack happened on the 26th. So he says:

 

“Doing a story on tomorrow’s edition of on the NSN, EAM rhetoric from certain figures in recent months. Keen to ensure we include any right of response, that you are keen to provide. Some questions below any issues, contact me Alexi Demetradyews.com dot au. Can receive and include any response that come via Telegram. Would need to be back by 05:30 pm on the Tuesday.”

 

So the whole premise of this journalist contacting us was that Wednesday morning they were planning on doing a story in the paper on how we’re a threat to society, how our organization and our community, and specifically here it says, “The Joel and Blair Show” are part of the Senate inquiry. So he says:

 

“Do you stand by any messages or posts you publish on Telegram? Question two, do you stand by any statements or comments aired on The Joel and Blair Show? Question three, do you disagree with submissions to a Senate hearing and experts that the movement and groups remained a “concern and a threat”?”

 

In quotation marks:

 

“Question four, do you stand by your attendance at Hitler birthday party? Question five, anything at all to note across this topic and issue?”

 

And so this was meant to be published on Wednesday.

 

And I actually went down to the service station on Wednesday to get a newspaper. And I found the Australian. And the first, like ten articles in the Australian were more or less about geopolitics, about our relationship with Israel, about our relationship with America, about our pending war with China. That was one of the editorial pieces. About how Senators are crossing the floor to vote in line with Palestinian humanitarianism.

 

Basically:

 

“War is happening in Ukraine, in Israel and Palestine, potentially with China, and we’re not ready.”

 

And that’s what the main sort of ten articles were about:

 

“We’re not unified and we’re not ready.”

 

And it’s interesting that they didn’t publish a piece on these threatening young White men that are Australian, that are pro-Australia alongside. Because that would have been great news, wouldn’t it? If you’re a boomer and you’re opening the paper and you’re like:

 

“Well, hang on a minute. They’re saying we’re not ready for war with China and there’s all this destabilization, the Middle East and Europe, and then here are some young guys training and there’s a Senate inquiry into these young guys going to the gym?”

 

You know, I think that would be almost, … The contradictions would be heightened a bit too much.

 

So I think they put a pause on the article and didn’t release it on Wednesday. But I’m surprised that they haven’t published it as of Thursday because that would have been in line with this fake terror attack.

 

The last thing I’ll say on the subject, other than why would you bring a PVC saw to a terror attack, is he didn’t do a terror attack! But it’s treated as one anyway. Why was counter-terrorism there? How were they there and why didn’t they stop him beforehand?

 

So they let him walk in to the place and then they arrested him when he left without hurting anyone. So they wanted him to do it! Counter terrorism watched a man armed., … Oh, we’ve got the photo up. Excellent! They watched a man armed with a PVC saw, a kitchen knife, …

 

Joel Davis: Look at this knife. You’re not doing crap all with this knife.

 

Thomas Sewell: And a Craftright hammer. Counterterrorism watched him walk into multiple buildings. They watched him walk into an MP’s office and they arrested him after the fact! Doesn’t that tell you something? I’ll leave it at that.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s a weird, that’s a shit looking kit! Like, what are you gonna do with that? You can’t even fix anything with that, there’s there’s no reason, …

 

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Thomas Sewell: Someone said online, and I don’t endorse this comment, but someone said online that it’s thewish.comBT, and I won’t expand on that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it’s the shittest terrorist of all time. But his manifesto sucked, too. And it was like he couldn’t even be fucked finishing it properly. So the first part, he tried a little bit more to have punctuation, and then the second half of the manifesto, like, there’s no punctuation or capital letters. And he kept writing, youse, like, YOUSE, like it’s a word.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe he was getting angry and he felt like he was just, …

 

Joel Davis: Just like an 85 IQ retard stream of consciousness. Like, it was really. Yeah, it was really weak and, I don’t know what he was expecting to do with this equipment. Also he went in and then left. So he went into the place where he was allegedly going to carry out this attack or plan to.

 

So what happened? Did he just puss out or something? And then he went to the museum. Why did he go to the museum for? In full tactical gear?

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe he had a change of heart and wanted to eradicate some White history? But maybe, you know how can you commit to a, like, something like a terrorist act when you’re a conservative? I mean, you got half a foot in one way and half a foot out the other.

 

But it’s just, it seems very strange, man. This is all very strange. It’s weird! I don’t know if it’s a psyop. People in the comments are saying it’s a psyop. Could be. This guy could have been helped into the position he got himself into?

 

Thomas Sewell: Counter-terrorism was there watching him walk into an MP’s office. And the fact that the Australian Federal police recently got caught grooming a retarded Muslim, which is kind of a tautology. But anyway.

 

To me, it’s obvious that this guy was in the wrong Telegram chats where federal agents sit there grooming autistic retards. And they don’t groom them for active clubs:

 

“No, no, no! Don’t try and train. Don’t do anything productive with your life. No, don’t get in the garden or get a trade or get a job or do activism or larp. Don’t do that. No, no, no! Just operate in small teams of two to three men, buy all this equipment!”

 

And that’s what these people in these group chats are saying:

 

“Don’t get involved! No, no! It’ll put you on the radar. But if you just operate solo, then counter-terrorism won’t be waiting for you!”

 

And yet it’s in fact the exact opposite.

 

Joel Davis: It was actually admitted by, … Which official was it? Whether it was Mike Burgess himself, or some other official from the intelligence community. But they said:

 

“What they’re afraid of with so-called Right-wing extremist terrorism. The threat is not actually that anyone from our organization will do anything, but that a lone wolf who will get frustrated at our lack of progress will go and do something stupid. They’ll get so demoralized and they’ll become isolated and that they will do something independently of us.”

 

So what he’s tacitly admitting is that the people in our organization, we actually maintain discipline to prevent them from doing a terrorist attack.

 

So he’s saying the actual opposite, that we are not a terrorist threat, but the opposite that we lower the terrorist threat by our existence. That was a funny thing that I remember we talked about on the show when those remarks were made.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, we don’t gain anything from terrorism. We don’t gain from people doing terrorism, we lose. Yeah, we want serious political change. And just little one off farts in the wind aren’t going to make that change. We want to build a large political organization that has many multifaceted working parts. Thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of members, families, businesses, resources, land, you know, training, culture, everything!

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s a lifestyle. It’s a multi generational lifestyle.

 

Thomas Sewell: Exactly!

 

Blair Cottrell: Like we’re controversial now, but eventually we promote, live and promote a certain lifestyle until that lifestyle becomes the norm for the nation. Right? And that is a multi generational process, right? That’s what you’re saying.

 

Thomas Sewell: Absolutely!

 

Blair Cottrell: I’ve got a feeling that that journalist might not publish that article he was originally going to write. It might just be a bit too spicy because he sent me the same message that you read out just before.

 

But what he asked me about specifically is he said:

 

“Do you stand by comments you made on The Joel and Blair Show stating that the Holocaust was fake and didn’t seem mathematically possible?”

 

And in response to that, I just doubled down. I said:

 

“Yeah, well, yeah, of course I stand by that.”

 

I said:

 

“The logistics are impossible. And the evidence just isn’t there! So I think it’s war propaganda, meaning it’s either wildly exaggerated or completely made up, because the logistics are impossible. And there’s no evidence.”

 

That was my response. If they print that in a newspaper, man, that’s pretty spicy, and he might get in some trouble there. [chuckling] I reckon that went to the editor, and editor’s like:

 

“You can’t publish that!”

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, a lot of people read that and:

 

“Oh, that’s a good point!”

 

But moreover, it’s ridiculous you can’t have an opinion on a historical event. Like, let’s say, I think you’re correct, but let’s say you’re wrong. So what? Why can’t you have a historical opinion? I mean they made a historical opinion, a question of morality, that it’s, like, immoral to speculate upon a historical event, whether it happened or not. That’s not immoral! It’s just a it’s a factual question. How can it be a moral question? It’s a factual question! I don’t think the moral question is totally separate from that.

 

Blair Cottrell: No one actually believes it’s immoral. There’s certain people that are just worried about the facts that may be uncovered if people do ask too many questions about that particular event in history.

 

 

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Joel Davis: But I want to touch on the notion of war with China, because I kind of set that up earlier. And Tom also set up the issue with his statement, talking about how:

 

“Oh, well, he opened up the paper expecting to see an article about our show because this journalist from the Australian was asking us questions.”

 

And then instead of getting an article, he gets ten articles about potential war with China and our lack of preparedness for war with China.

 

And I was saying earlier, I think that the boot has been taken off the neck of Trump, not just for the sake of defending Israel, but also for the sake of preparing patriotic elements in the West to be readying patriotic elements to fight China. Bringing them back on side. Wokeness has to be wound back in order to bring them back to the table.

 

And I think a lot of people say:

 

“Oh, we won’t fight China!”

 

Well, the thing is that it’s actually not up to us, it’s up to China.

 

So there’s a current status quo in the region, and that status quo is only going to be disturbed by China invading Taiwan. So if China make the decision to invade Taiwan, that’s the trigger. It’s nothing that the American government does, the Australian government does. We’re already committed to defending Taiwan, allying with America to defend Taiwan. They’re committed to defending Taiwan. They have to be committed to defending Taiwan, because it’s the basic commitment that holds together all their other alliances in the region. Their alliance with Japan, their alliance with the Philippines, their alliance with South Korea, and so on.

 

It’s all dependent upon the idea that the Americans would be willing to go to war to prevent Chinese expansion.

 

So America is fully committed. China is the rising potential superpower. The American logic is, if we don’t fight them over Taiwan, we’re going to have to end up fighting them somewhere else in a less mutually, a less relatively advantageous position. So they’d rather fight them over Taiwan than fight them later over Japan or over somewhere in South America, potentially, if China was to take over Asia.

 

So they would rather have the fight in China’s backyard, and the fight would largely be a naval and air battle. It would basically be the US Navy and their allied navies, including our navy, trying to navally blockade China. To shut down all of China’s trade with the rest of the world through blockading all the trade routes, the ocean trade routes, which are vital to China’s economy, would induce a famine.

 

But moreover, they’re just going to just blow up as much shit in China as they possibly can.

 

Meanwhile, the Chinese will try and blow up all of America’s navy and air force. Japan will probably get bombed. A second Korean war could break out, potentially, which could mean ground forces.

 

So that’s something to be concerned about. If you’re a younger man, you could get drafted to fight in Korea war two while this is happening.

 

But other than that, I wouldn’t anticipate too much of a ground battle. I think it would be mostly an air and naval battle, and the American logic as:

 

“Yes, we could get our entire navy and air force blown up, but China would get its entire economy just utterly destroyed!”

 

A mass famine. Tens of millions of people would starve to death. Their economy, 50% of it, would just fall away overnight. It would get shunted back decades. And America would take a hit, but they’d take a 10% hit and China would take a 60% hit, and they would say:

 

“Well, overall, that works out net positive for us, because they’re the only country in the world that’s even close to competing with us.”

 

I think that also contextualizes why Trump is saying that he wants to negotiate peace with the Russians, because I think the Americans want to finish the Ukraine issue and get it sorted and completed before anything breaks out with China so that they can try and neutralize Russia and try and make Russia more of a neutral party rather than be trying to fight two fronts at the same time.

 

So I think that explains, like, Trump’s statements and foreign policy and why there’s probably a large element of the American elite that is behind him.

 

But also it might also explain why things might start to shift in the way that the media is reporting on things in coming years. You might start to notice “wokeness”, quote, unquote, getting attacked more. You might notice a kind of a Right-wing vibe shift start to set in. And we’ll see if it plays out as I’m describing. But I’m already starting to see the signs that it is already starting to play out. And I think, and that isn’t necessarily because of some grandiose conspiracy, but just like, a general mood shift in the elite as they’re coming to terms with the reality that they need to have more patriotic Right-wing sentiment in order to confront the challenges that they have globally.

 

So do you guys, particularly Tom, you just come on! Do you agree with that assessment or what do you think?

 

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Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I’ve unfortunately got a head off for reasons that you guys understand, but the audience doesn’t need to know.

 

But, yeah, I do agree with the sentiment. And, yeah, it’s why we’re seeing White men in military recruitment ads. Like, it’s obvious that war is inevitable with China. And it will happen between now and, 2030. Yeah, they will probably wrap up the Ukraine, Russia thing as soon as Trump is elected. But that doesn’t mean anything. The world is completely destabilizing, and it’s destabilizing it at record speed.

 

And I think, as we discussed last night, Joel, we should just work towards getting India and Pakistan to nuke each other. That should be our geopolitical strategy.

 

And then we can have total pajeet annihilation and go back to just living in the land of milk and honey without being annoyed!

 

But anyway, unfortunately, I have to head off. I’d love to have a chat about deep geopolitical subjects. And it was a very important day today with the senile debate with Trump and Biden.

 

But, yeah, I’ve done enough talking. I’ll see you guys later.

 

Blair Cottrell: Take care, mate.

 

Thomas Sewell: Thanks.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we had, yeah. Sorry about Tom having a go. The community had a tragic circumstance. We’re all okay, but tragic circumstance. And Tom is the leader of the community. Yeah, it falls on his shoulders when things like that happen.

 

But anyway, yeah, the I think Tom basically agrees with my assessment.

 

Do you feel a little bit of that shift, Blair, because you kind of have your finger on the pulse of the energy. Do you feel the vibe shift? I think Australia is lagging a little bit behind where it is in America. I think America is a bit ahead of the curve because that’s the center of the empire, the center of power, and it takes a little bit of time for the cultural shift in America to fully kind of like download into the Australian elite and then disseminate down to our population.

 

But how do you see it?

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s definitely a shift taking place, and it seems like that’s fundamental patriotism that, as you explained, is necessary to deal with the problems that we face these days. Even if it’s just to get people to join police and defense force. I think it’s coming back. I think there’s going to be more of a shift towards that. And I feel that the people are ready to accept that.

 

The people are kind of almost yearning for that, especially down here in Australia. There is no longer a strong amongst ordinary working class people, there’s not a strong sense of national identity in Australia anymore, at least not down here in Melbourne. I can say that there’s still some, you know, remnants of that old, vigorous Australian patriotism up in Queensland. I witnessed it myself when I was up there on the weekend.

 

But it’s very tied into the north and the beaches. I think there’s something to do with the Australian beaches that that old Australian patriotism, that Aussie pride, it pertains to the beaches and beach culture for some reason. And maybe that’s why down here in Melbourne, it was easier to, how should I describe, expurgate national pride from the working people. Because we don’t really have a strong beach culture down here in Melbourne. The beach culture in New South Wales and Queensland is a lot stronger.

 

But in essence, what I’m saying is I do feel that there is a shift about to take place. To me, it feels like we’re in the preliminary period before a major social shift where the way things were, they’re not going to be that way anymore. We’re not going to have that radical Left, just free reign in the institutions, banning who they want, saying what they want and getting away with it.

 

There’s going to be a little bit more nuance. There’s going to be a little bit more of a resurgence of the nationalistic spirit and a bit more representation. It might not be legitimate representation at first. There’s going to be people who are working for other people. There’s going to be people with specific interests, personal interests, even if it’s just their own egos. Obviously, that’s just what we deal with on a daily basis in politics. But what I can say is there is a feeling that something’s about to change and it’s going to change around the world. I think.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I think there’s a lot of interesting little signs that I’m seeing. One is there was polling that has been done on, in America on attitudes to gay marriage.

 

And over the last few years, gay marriage has been turning around the other way. So you have, like, from the beginning of the polling to a few years ago, gay marriage gets more and more popular every year. So in the nineties, like, only, like a third of Americans support a gay marriage. And by 2019, two thirds of Americans support gay marriage.

 

And now it’s only going back by a few percentage points, but it’s going back the other direction the last couple of years. And, yeah, I think that there’s a sense that liberalism and this constant progressive agenda of making, of kind of expanding the scope of acceptance and new victim categories and so on, there’s a collective exhaustion. I think it basically ran up to a kind of limit, and now it’s kind of bouncing back the other direction.

 

And I think that that’s a prevailing sense. There’s a certain organic element to that.

 

But then, in addition, you have these geopolitical realities, which are what they are. Like, the reality of China is what it is. It can’t be avoided. Jews run America more or less, and they have their designs, and they would like America to be as unpatriotic as possible because they’re kind of afraid of a White American patriotic sentiment as turning against them potentially and usurping their power.

 

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But at the same time, in order for them to run the world, they need America to run the world. So they need, and for America to keep running the world, you need a certain amount of American patriotism. So they have to balance these two forces. They can’t go all in on just hard Leftism in order to keep the show on the road.

 

And, like someone like Elon Musk or whatever, he’s obviously not our guy, but I think he’s realized, well, if we want to have America leading the world and all this technological development and a space program and all of this stuff, well, we can’t have, like, black women, diversity hires running everything because then every system will break down. We need to have White men running shit again. We have to get rid of wokeness if we want the American system to be functional again and achieve some of his ambitions, technological ambitions or whatever.

 

I think he’s like a Reddit bug man that assesses the world in terms of technological development rather than anything more spiritually meaningful. And I don’t like that.

 

But nevertheless, I think it’s a realistic viewpoint to come to.

 

And I think the same thing for the jews that care about zionism. They’ve realized:

 

“Well, the entire project of Israel is kind of dependent upon American power projection. If we completely destroy America with diversity and inclusion and wokeness or whatever, taken to its ultimate limit because we want to prevent White Americans from reasserting themselves, well, then we’re going to end up, the parasite will destroy the host. And if America goes, we go. They’re the only thing protecting us from the Muslims!”

 

So I think a lot of these realizations have started to set in and different elements of the elite. And if they soften their attitude towards patriotism and towards the Right, it just organically re-emerges because it’s the organic state of things. It’s only held back by elite repression.

 

All they have to do is just kind of soften the repression and it just comes back. They don’t even have to actively bring it back.

 

But in some cases they probably will actively bring back kind of like pseudo nationalist controlled opposition movements that are to the right of what currently exists.

 

And we’re going to start seeing them pop up more and more.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s why they say “no rest for the wicked”, right? If what you believe is fundamentally flawed or wrong, and you still want that belief system or that ideology to be powerful or to be the central power of a certain region, state, country, and you’ve got to put in a lot of effort, a lot of property propaganda, a lot of subversive activities, a lot of oppression, suppression of what the truth actually is so no rest for the wicked!

 

In summary, what we’re saying there, I suppose, is its not going to be cool to be a feminist anymore. It’s not going to be cool to be anti-racist anymore.

 

Actually, it was never cool to be either of those things.

 

What I mean is you will probably find the feminists and the anti-racists are just getting less support, less institutional support in the future to what they’re accustomed to up until now.

 

So that’s going to be good to see. It’s going to be exciting to see the shift. But it was always going, it was always bound to happen.

 

As you said, it’s gotten to the point where it’s just ridiculous now.

 

It’s gotten to the point where children are being targeted with homosexual and transsexual messaging. And why? Why? What’s the point, at the end of the day?

 

I don’t want to get into that because. Yeah, I’m exhausted by you talked about exhaustion. I’m exhausted by that, even thinking about that shit! I don’t want to think about children being exposed to transsexuals, reading to them in a library. I don’t want to think about that. It just irritates the living shit out of me, that that’s even happening! Why do I need to think about that? Why is anyone even doing that!

 

And I suppose the average Australian feels the same way. It’s something you just don’t want to have to think about. You’re just so over it! You’re so ready for that to be gone! So it can’t be gone fast enough.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! Like, it’s only propped up by a small subclass of perverts that are themselves reinforced by institutional power. And if that institutional power is taken away, then it immediately becomes marginalized. It’s on a very flimsy foundation. And that foundation for a lot of these, like, excessive woke thing, I don’t see them going to, like, race. They’re not going to embrace, like, White nationalism. They’re going to push-pull back to a civic nationalist, centrist position where they’re going to start winding back the excessive Leftism.

 

Blair Cottrell: Still appealing to everyone. You’re still Australian if you’re from Pakistan or whatever, but we’re just going a little bit more conservative. Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. That’s what I see materializing with the establishment. And for the people watching in the national security establishment, ASIO agents that watch our show, you should really take the boot off our neck. Let us go back onto YouTube. Let us grow. Let us go back on, I’m on Twitter, but let Tom and Blair back onto Twitter. Stop trying to censor us. Stop trying to take us out. Let us cook!

 

Because if you want to be able to go to war with the yellow menace, you’re going to need some racism. So let us go and spread some racism. For once, we actually have something that we both want to achieve! We want to make the country more racist! You actually want to make the country more racist!

 

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Blair Cottrell: You want to be careful man! You want to be careful making deals with people like that.

 

Joel Davis: I’m not making a deal! I’m just saying, just leave this, let us cook. Leave us alone. Leave us alone. Let us cook.

 

Blair Cottrell: All I can say to those people watching this, like the agents watching this, I hope you’re being paid enough because these are long streams. And you’re probably not even interested in this stuff, but you got to sit there and listen to all this shit and write down all the major points and then review it all and take it to the next guy. It’s like, just seems like a lot of work.

 

So I hope you’re being paid well. I wouldn’t want to do it.

 

Joel Davis: A couple Superchats, one from Bishop 1599 says:

 

“Where do you base your morals and spiritual backbone in this political group you propose?”

 

I mean, this is a very vague question.

 

Blair Cottrell: Blue eyes! That’s where we base it. The blue of the eyes. [chuckling] If you have blue eyes, you’re in!

 

Joel Davis: But, yeah, it’s, we’ve covered that more, these more general subjects on other streams, and we’ll cover them more in the future. I don’t really want to go down that path because there’s another subject I wanted to bring up, and then we’re going to bring the close of the show. But thanks for your Superchat.

 

But, yeah, basically, in a nutshell, my core values are loyalty, authenticity, honor, and I combine these things together.

 

So to me, I’m loyal to my people, I’m loyal to my friends, my family, my race, my nation. I believe in honoring my ancestors, honoring my blood, and I believe in authenticity.

 

So I believe in living my life for that which I love the most, which is my people, which is my future children, grandchildren and so on, and living my life in service to these things.

 

And that’s what I derive, ultimately my values from in a nutshell.

 

And I also, I believe God made me this way and put me in this position. I’m just trying to honor what has been given to me by God, like what my destiny is or my, who I am, where I come from and where I’m obviously going, what I’ve been made, what I’ve been born to do.

 

Chattington said:

 

“Had a politics slash race argument with my girlfriend’s boomer family. I calmly counted their open borders retarded stance, which enraged the father into trying to attack me. I stayed composed, but now I’m questioning the relationship. It’s made me focus on the girlfriend, and now we’re both negative with each other. Thoughts?”

 

Well, yeah, I mean, …

 

Blair Cottrell: What was the problem there? He raised something at a family.

 

Joel Davis: He got into an argument with his girlfriend’s. Yeah, he got into argument with his girlfriend’s parents about immigration or something. He said he stayed calm, that they got triggered, and now his girlfriend and him are having issues as a result because I guess she sided with her family against him. Yeah.

 

I mean, I don’t really got a lot of context there for me to give you relationship advice.

 

Blair Cottrell: I’ve been there! I’ve been there. I had a girlfriend when I was younger, and she used to take me, … When she first met me I was athletic. I was fitter than I am now. And she thought to herself:

 

“Wow, I’ve got this big blonde boyfriend. I’m gonna go show him off to my family!”

 

Little did she know, I’d been reading Mein Kampf for two years straight! And I’d, like, highlighted and rephrased, like, wrote down all the best paragraphs. I was fully propagandized by National Socialism! And it’s all I wanted to talk about! I was about 22.

 

And so, you know, this poor girl [chuckling] and her family, man, at the at the first dinner she took me to. Yeah, it didn’t go well! All I talked about was Hitler. [chuckling]

 

So in that situation, I would just brush it off. Like, it’s not even that serious. Don’t worry about it.

 

“If you want to stay with me, you can. No worries. But if you don’t, see you later!”

 

I suppose that’s how I’d go about that. Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I think at the end of the day, like, your girl has to respect you if she doesn’t respect you, like, even if she doesn’t 100%, like, fully agree with your opinions, she doesn’t respect that you have a right to have your own opinion and assert your position in a fair reasonable way, then she doesn’t respect you as a person, which means she doesn’t love you, which means you shouldn’t be with her.

 

You just explain that to her like, you’re being disrespectful. Explain why she’s being disrespectful. And if she can’t see it and apologize, then how can you build a life with someone like that? You can’t marry and have children with a woman that doesn’t respect you.

 

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Blair Cottrell: So, yeah, that is true too. Men can tolerate anything except disrespect. That’s the one thing men can’t tolerate. It just wears you down, breaks you down, and eventually, you know, drives you to extremes if you’re not being shown respect. If you’re not being shown respect in any, I think I said this on the off grid on the Ireland podcast I did a few days ago. In any situation, in a working relationship, personal relationship, just leave. It’s not worth it. It’ll crush your, it’ll shrink your testicles! If you tolerate disrespect, your balls will get smaller and your testosterone will plummet! It’s just mathematical certainty. Do not tolerate disrespect. Just leave! You don’t need to stay in a situation where you’re being shown no respect.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it doesn’t make any sense. It’s like if a woman feels in a relationship that her boyfriend doesn’t love her, then she should leave. It’s like love to a woman is like respect to a man. It’s like the essential foundation of everything.

 

Blair Cottrell: That is so true. And any woman who doesn’t understand that, doesn’t understand men or love.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. I saw some faggot was complaining that we didn’t talk about Julian Assange being cutting some deal that was in the news to be released. Well, I just don’t find it to be that significant, frankly. Julian Assange is a Leftist, okay? He’s an anti-war Leftist and leaked some interesting anti-war, or he leaked some interesting diplomatic cables and facts about the war in Iraq and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that made for interesting journalism and exposed the zionism and the war crimes of the United States.

 

But then also, he did other things. He doxxed BNP members, the White nationalist party in Britain. So he’s not our political ally at all! Yeah, he dropped some interesting stuff that maybe Trump wouldn’t have got elected if Julian Assange didn’t drop that dossier on Clinton. There were some interesting things in those emails. There’s interesting things that he’s dropped over the years. And the way that the American State treated Assange was kind of interesting. Like, it showed the kind of global reach of their power that they could try and go after an Australian citizen operating in a foreign country for why would they have the right to do that under American law? Why are other States complicit in that? It does show that the extent of American global power, the lack of respect for the national sovereignty of other nations.

 

But at the same time, what has he done for White people? Fuck all! So who cares? And he’s not loyal to us. He’s a Leftist. He’s stuck in that old, like, 2000s anti-government Leftist paradigm of, like:

 

“Oh the wealthy elites and American imperialism and the corporations, man!”

 

Like this is a totally outdated form of politics that isn’t really relevant to anything.

 

Blair Cottrell: Now I’m starting to really rely on you to understand what I should be paying attention to and what I shouldn’t be. Because you got a pretty good gauge of where our energies should go as well, I’ve noticed. And, yeah, because I agree. I had the same feeling about Assange, but I hadn’t really put it into thoughts or words yet. But, yeah, you’ve just spoken the words that I was feeling.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! I think we don’t have to support people just because they present themselves as, like, anti-regime in one way or another. Because it’s like how you oppose the regime that’s important. It’s not just that you oppose it.

 

Like it’s the same reason why I’m not shedding any tears for Left-wing, pro-Palestine protesters or the Palestinians in general. Because yeah, they’re going up against the jews, and I don’t like the jews. But they’re going up against the jews for reasons which aren’t aligned to my reasons for going against the jews. So, like, they’re not my allies. They’re just that kind of enemy of my enemy. They’re not my friend. There’s that phrase, “an enemy of my enemy is my friend”. I don’t actually agree with this logic. There’s many instances where this is not the case.

 

There’s many instances where two people can be fighting. Neither of them are your friends, but that’s just obvious. I’m not gonna side with the jews against them, but I’m not gonna team up with them against the jews either. I’m just gonna stand back and, like, let them fight and not give a shit and focus on what I’m doing.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, right. I think it pertains to people start to waver if they feel like they have more than one enemy. If people start feeling like they have lots of enemies, then the task that they’re trying to achieve seems insurmountable, and they begin to waver. They begin to lose faith.

 

So I think that saying kind of comes from that just psychological reality. It’s always best to keep it simple and to make it seem like we’re only fighting one enemy, ultimately. But I do agree that enemy of my enemy as my friend certainly isn’t always applicable.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, no, it isn’t.

 

Now, I wanted to talk about this in pertaining what we saw this the Strauss Howe Generational Theory. I’m just pulling up the Wikipedia article so that maybe some people will go and take a look at this. Because it’s based on, I mean, they wrote multiple books, but they wrote one book called The Fourth Turning, which I’ve flicked through before. And I listened to podcasts, one of the authors, explaining his theory.

 

And basically, it’s like a theory of the cycles that occur in history, like generational cycles that occur in history, particularly in American or Anglo-American history. And he’s basically a full cycle, they say, takes about 85 years. It’s like a full human life cycle, roughly. And it’s broken into four constitutive generational turnings, each generation about 21 years.

 

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And then they describe how each generation has its own kind of archetypal Persona and corresponding mood. And its Persona is derived from the mood that is created by previous generations while they’re growing up. And that because the world that you grow up in is basically created by the kind of inclinations and personality of the previous generations that come behind you, that set the tone for that world, that then sets the tone for what your generation will become, and then sets the tone for the kind of world you will create for the generation ahead of you as you move through your life cycle.

 

And so that’s why it’s this cyclical model, because each generation creates the conditions to reciprocally generate one another through this process.

 

Anyway, basically, they also invented the word “Millennial”. When people say millennials, these are the guys who actually invented that term.

 

Now, the reason why this is interesting is because they say that every 85 years, America goes through some fundamental crisis that is precipitated by this cycle, and that kind of launches the next cycle.

 

And so you have the Revolutionary War. Thats the beginning of the United States. Then 85 years later, you have the Civil War. Then 85 years later, you have the World War Two. And then 85 years later, basically its the next four or five years.

 

So America is due for another massive war, basically that’ll reset the cycle, according to this theory. Which plays into this idea that maybe World War Three or with China, is a very serious possibility in coming years.

 

Moreover, it contextualizes the kind of relationship between, like, Boomers, Gen-X, millennials, and according to their theory, like, Zoomers don’t really exist. Zoomers. Like older Zoomers, are part of how they categorize millennials.

 

And then the younger Zoomers and generation Alpha, as they call it, like the generation, basically the people who are kids now, they’re a separate generation, so they don’t divide the generations up exactly the same way that common parlance does, where we’ve got, like, Millennials and Zoomers, and they’re distinct from one another. But they have a rationalization for why they put that together.

 

And I’m not going to go into that right now.

 

But the point is that they say that there are these kind of four fundamental, archetypal Personas of each generation. And Millennials have the same Persona as what they called the GI generation, the generation that fought in World War Two. And that basically our generation, the Millennial generation, and that includes older Zoomers.

 

So if you are not in high school anymore, you’re a Millennial. According to this theory, that basically we grow up in a time of crisis. And that crisis was precipitated by the individualism of Generation X and the Boomers who grew up in a time, time of expansion. That was a time of peace and development and optimism that was generated by the successful outcome of the previous crisis, which was World War Two. So we win World War Two, and then there’s prosperity, and there’s like mass urbanization and the extension of childhood and universal education extending into university, and all these economic opportunities. And this creates the individualism of the Boomers and Gen-X.

 

And then the world that they create is this kind of hyper individualist world of the eighties, the nineties, the two thousands. And that world then precipitates the crisis, which is global financial crisis, the mass immigration, the kind of breakdown of Anglo-American global dominance in geopolitics. And we’ve inherited this crisis.

 

And the Millennial generation is basically, we’re kind of a generation that’s designed to become the champions of some great cause. And what he talks about in the GI generation, as they call it, which is the generation that fought World War Two. Prior to World War Two, that generation was super Left-wing. They were really, pre-communism was getting really popular. Far Left-wing politics was getting really popular. Then World War Two happens, and that generation becomes super Right-wing and patriotic, because they actually had to fight the war.

 

Blair Cottrell: Does that GI generation end up getting killed off, though? Because they’re the ones to fight in the wars and they don’t like, …

 

Joel Davis: Well, a portion it will get killed off, but the ones that the majority of it obviously will survive.

 

But then that generation, then as it matures, because it goes through that experience, it then sets up the new world and it kind of returns to, … Millennials, he says, there’s usually two individualist and then two collectivist generations.

 

So the Boomers and the Gen-X are individualist generations because they were raised within a collectivist world.

 

So you have the generations that fight and win World War Two, and then after World War Two, you have a far more kind of collectivist society. For example, in America, where you have university education paid for with the GI Bill, and you have massive taxation upon the rich, and everyone comes together, and it’s all about America has to fight the Soviets. And there’s all these wars, like with Korea and Vietnam, and there’s the space program, and it’s this kind of like, intense patriotism that forms in the country.

 

And then the Boomers are born in that world and they rebel against it, and they have, like, they become hippies and yuppies and Cultural Revolutionaries and embrace the destruction of Christianity and the old family structure and anti-racism and all of these. And they prophesize what the ultimate crisis will be in their rebellion against the previous order.

 

That then has obviously played itself out. And then the Millennial generation, as we’re now kind of like, rising up into contesting for power, the Boomers are dying off. And then we confront the next crisis. Then that crisis then sets the tone for the next phase.

 

So anyway, basically, this Generational theory would predict a major global crisis, and then a kind of conservative collectivism.

 

And basically the overall themes that we’re putting forward here, this idea that wokeness has to be wound back and the regime has to get serious and do away with championing a lot of these luxury beliefs. People call them, like, being like the pro-gay, transgender thing.

 

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Blair Cottrell: Human equality.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! These things are all luxury beliefs. And the crisis just destroys the luxury under which those beliefs can be created. They were created by Boomers in a phase of luxury, and now they’re going to have to be, like, reversed and sacrificed. But the millennial generation won’t fundamentally overthrow the old order. They will be like a conservative reaction against its excesses.

 

And then the generations that that then emerge after us, like after the crisis, they will then rebel against the values of the old order. So according to this theory the time for there to be a rebellion, like a kind of hard upswing in like White nationalism or something, and more traditional values or something will be the next generation. But we’re kind of like the leveling that, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Like we’re going to create a reactionary, pain in the ass kind of response, series of responses for the establishment is what you’re saying.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. We’re going, no, we’re going to kind of, our generation is probably destined to be a kind of conservative reaction that restabilizes things and then restabilizes things into a new phase of stable prosperity and conditions. And then a generation that will then exist in that, in those better social conditions and those freedoms will then use those freedoms to then turn against the values of the old order. And they’ll still be, there will still be these egalitarian ideals that are preserved. They’ll just be, like, toned down by what is going to happen. They’re not going to be overthrown. They’re not going to be reversed. They’re just going to be toned down and made pragmatic. And therefore they’re going to be stripped of all of their ideological zeal.

 

Because when Christianity got toned down, then it ended up being basically liquidated, because once it stopped having confidence to go and, like, persecute its enemies and impose itself upon society, that created the freedom for people to attack it, and then it was attacked.

 

So a lot of people have this idea that, like, revolutions happen when governments get too tyrannical. They overstep the mark and then the revolution happens. But that’s actually not how it works in history. In history, revolutions happen when you have a government that gets too tyrannical, oversteps the mark, and then a couple successions of that government later, then they start getting soft.

 

And then when they’re soft, that’s when the revolution happens. Because weakness is what gets you overthrown, not strength. A strong tyrant never gets overthrown. They just fucking kick ass!

 

So like what? Like, basically what will happen is a kind of weakening of the ideological fabric of the current order by the pragmatic concerns of fixing the crisis. And then that will create conditions where then the culture that was created by the Boomers and reached its full maturation in recent years in the retardation of the cult of egalitarianism and diversity and all of this, that will then be weak and it will be possible for it to be attacked by a new, the next generation. Our children, basically, as they come into maturation, their youth culture will be the thing that actually goes at it hard and completely upends all of its values.

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s an interesting theory and you articulated it really well. Very insightful. Feels to be true. Does feel to be true.

 

Joel Davis: Well, it’s just a theory.

 

Blair Cottrell: We should start wrapping the, … Yeah, I know. Everything is just a theory at the end of the day, except our ethnicity. That’s no theory! Who we are is no theory. We need to wrap it up because I’m falling asleep, man.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I’m going to wrap it up.

 

Blair Cottrell: Is there another couple of Superchats to go through before we finish?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, there’s one from Carne Ash, I don’t know how to pronounce that. Says:

 

“This is why the brown-brown “alliance” burgeoning on Twitter is retarded! We are only ever allies when it’s for their cause.”

 

I think you meant to say the White-brown alliance. And he put alliance in quotation marks.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I thought the same thing.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I agree that we can’t. Yeah, there is no alliance that we can have with any of these other groups, because at the end of the day, as you said, it’s only when it benefits them. They’re not gonna go out of their way like the Palestinians are gonna go out of their way to support White nationalism. It’s always a one way street with these people. They want our sympathy, but then they want us to adapt our rhetoric to fit them. But they don’t csk.

 

Blair Cottrell: They want us to join their team, as you would say. They want us to join their ethnic team.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! Exactly! And they’re not going to sympathize with us. And their resentment comes out in all kinds of ways, quite clearly. And obviously, when push comes to shove, you might get a few outliers. You might get like a random based. Like, there are random, like, based black guys who are like:

 

“Oh, no, actually, black people suck! They’re not like the White race!”

 

Blair Cottrell: They’re like spiritually White, almost. I call them spiritually White.

 

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Joel Davis: Well, I don’t know. I feel like they’re just house niggers. That’s what they are, house niggers.

 

Blair Cottrell: But X, the old Malcolm X reference, I like it!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the house negroes.

 

Blair Cottrell: He was a good speaker. Malcolm X was one of those rare, like kind of African speakers who just had the vibe. He had the good vibe! He had the charisma, you might say. He held himself well. He was confident and he actually, he actually stuck to his guns too, at the end of the day. Like, he didn’t just tolerate all the bullshit that was going on in Nation of Islam.

 

They weren’t following their own procedures and practices and he called them out on it. They ended up killing him. But I don’t know, man of principle. I think that’s how I understand Malcolm X anyway. But there’s something about the way he speaks and moves that I find interesting. He really stands out as a prominent black nationalist in American history for me.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, yeah. I read autobiography before many, many years ago and he was an interesting figure. A rare black man that seemed to have something about it, a bit of authenticity, and quite intelligent for a black man. And yeah, he’s an interesting figure.

 

Obviously, I don’t sympathize with his cause, but at the same time, I respect someone like him. Because he wanted black independence, he genuinely wanted separation, he wanted black dignity, he wanted his people to go their own way and carve out a authentic path for themselves independently of the Whiteman. Not be dependent upon asking the Whiteman for anything, not being the victim, by going their own way. And I respect that’s the only way that you can respect another group when they want to stand on their own two feet.

 

Actually, I saw something on Twitter, actually. Apparently the Kenyan government has said:

 

“That all blacks around the world have the right to immigrate to Kenya for life if they want to. If they want to. If they’re sick of being oppressed in America by racism, they can immigrate to Kenya.”

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t think they’ll go! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but so anyway, so any blacks watching, go to Kenya. Shut the fuck up!

 

But yeah, like that you can use that as well. Whenever you talk to a black, just tell them to go to Kenya. Like they’re free to go and live in Kenya with a bunch of blacks. And Kenya is a peaceful place, as far as I know. War or anything going on there. They got jobs. You know, it’s not as prosperous as a White country, obviously, but the people there living just fine. Go to Kenya! Go to Nairobi or whatever. Get a job!

 

Blair Cottrell: Become a long distance! Go to Kenya and run for Kenya in the Olympics. That’s what they’re good at, isn’t it? Long distance running.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, the Kenyans kill it! Kill it at long distance running.

 

Also, I want to mention, I am going to be doing a Twitter space in about 15 minutes after the show is over, I’m going to do my Twitter space. So I’ll put a link on Telegram and look on Twitter if you want to listen to that. Should be a conversation with Pox Populi, so, …

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re a powerhouse! It’s approaching 11:00 pm here in Australia. We’ve been streaming for just over 2 hours and ten minutes, and Joel’s gonna keep at it! He’s gonna take a 15 minutes break, grab a drink, and he’s gonna keep at it! He’s a powerhouse! I can’t even stay awake, man. So I’m getting ready to clear out.

 

I just remember some people were trying to figure out what the slogan on my jumper says. I think it says “Enemy Minds”, and I think it’s a band. Do the band Enemy Mind or Enemy Minds Joel?

 

Joel Davis: No! It’s like, what do you have the band shirt, if you don’t know the band?

 

Blair Cottrell: That’s my girlfriend’s jumper. I just came back from holiday and, like, I, you know, haven’t done any washing or anything like that.

 

Joel Davis: I’m surprised that anything that she has fits you because, …

 

Blair Cottrell: She buys really baggy ones, like they’re like triple XL or something. So they’re kind of like universal. They fit her and me. They’re kind of the cute girlfriend wear the jumper at home thing and then normal fit for me. So, yeah, it works.

 

Joel Davis: I like that look. Ladies wearing like, just like a Hoodie or like a baggy shirt. It’s a good, like, nothing else, really, other than that, really. It’s a good look, in my opinion.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I agree. I agree. It’s a relaxed look.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t necessarily love all my clothes getting stolen, though. Women have a tendency to do that they just take all your shit!

 

Blair Cottrell: But I have the opposite problem. They always used to leave stuff at my house deliberately so they had a reason to come back. [chuckling]

 

Anyway, guys, thanks very much for joining us. Sorry if I was a bit tired and not articulating myself so well tonight. I’ve just had a hectic week. That’s part of the reason we rescheduled to tonight in the first place. So thanks for tolerating me. And thanks for tuning in.

 

We’ll be back next week as usual. Take care.

 

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(Comments as of 6/29/2024 = 84)

Muh Fashy Bookshelf
1 hour ago
Blairs obsession with Napoleon is unfathomable. He literally created modernity, from the secularism to the liberation of the Jews its all been downhill.

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Julius Myshkin
2 hours ago
$25.00
Hey Joel, trying to connect on telegram to share something too long for a super chat. sent a message a few minutes ago on tg to

@joeldavis
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@BMC1488
4 hours ago
The Trump/Biden debate was about which one kisses black ass the most.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
8 hours ago
*women don’t like you commenting on their large clothing

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Euroicism
8 hours ago
HH

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@SammichLubber
8 hours ago
Ghana has an open reimmigration policy towards American blacks as far as I understand.

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DOLO
6 hours ago
Based.

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@BMC1488
5 hours ago
The only problem is there’s no gibs from Whitey over there in Wakanda.

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@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
8 hours ago
Careful Joel. LOL

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scoobyburn
8 hours ago
better not got her undies on

Euroicism
8 hours ago
Race-mixing is a crime against nature.

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@SammichLubber
8 hours ago

@Aus1788
Like I say about Bob Marley. The hgreatest Jamaican had a British father. Go figure.

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@SammichLubber
8 hours ago
Odd how real work building makes one tired.

@Aus1788
8 hours ago
malcolm x wasnt black.. he was a half cast

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@SammichLubber
8 hours ago
Population booms and busts are another natural cycle we’re long overdue for.

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@Aus1788
8 hours ago
no black ios spiritually white..

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@SammichLubber
8 hours ago
What I see that throws off these cycles is tech & population.

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Euroicism
8 hours ago
The White race lost WW2

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scoobyburn
8 hours ago
all wars are bankers wars

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@SammichLubber
8 hours ago
Strong men create good times… times four gets you roughly 80-100 years.

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ChainReaction
8 hours ago
Heil Bruv o/

@Aus1788

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@SammichLubber
8 hours ago
Collet just put up a video supposedly exposing Bronze Age Pervert.

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@Aus1788
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
exactly 0/

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ChainReaction
8 hours ago
how many wikileaks involving isreal or jews? zero

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ChainReaction
8 hours ago
move on and find a girl who’s family aren’t a bunch of cvnts

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danzimmons
8 hours ago
°/

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scoobyburn
8 hours ago
they got 2 million soldiers everyone is stuffed I

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ChainReaction
8 hours ago
rope stocks gonna make me rich

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Secure the future of our people
8 hours ago
Repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/joeldavisx/status/1806619775365509431

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@SammichLubber
8 hours ago
The U.S. military is will be speaking Spanish in the next big war.

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BOILING-FROG
8 hours ago
o/

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@Aus1788
8 hours ago
it true qlders are just built better than other Australians

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@SammichLubber
8 hours ago
lol

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@Chaddington
9 hours ago
speak English mate?

@TheGreekQuestion
9 hours ago

@Chaddington
great, so following the advice on Dear Tom has turned you into an incel

@Chaddington
9 hours ago
$14.88
Had a politics/race argument with GF’s boomer family. I calmly countered their open borders retarded stance, which enraged the father into trying to attack me. I stayed composed but now im questioning the relationship. Its made me focus on the GF and now we’re both negative with each other.Thoughts?

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scoobyburn
9 hours ago

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@katana17
9 hours ago
[Joel Davis – Polarisation Phases – with Blair & Tom – Jun 20, 2024 – Transcript]

Joel Davis – Polarisation Phases – with Blair & Tom – Jun 20, 2024 – Transcript

@SammichLubber
9 hours ago
Sounds like an Aussie PatCon.

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@LordVividColours
9 hours ago
Bogan-Waffen

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@LordVividColours
9 hours ago
We call this shithole Derro Terro

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@SammichLubber
9 hours ago
Cypriotic Greeks

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@LordVividColours
9 hours ago
Heard about the spaz but didn’t know he was a full sperg

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@LordVividColours
9 hours ago
I live in Raymond Terrace

scoobyburn
9 hours ago

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Secure the future of our people
9 hours ago
Repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/joeldavisx/status/1806619775365509431

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
Carl Jung’s AION is a must-read, not light reading though

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Euroicism
9 hours ago
Normies need it simple, most people are not deep thinkers.

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Woes: Red Pill Germany. Then Bitcoin Beginnings. That’s with Karl Thorburn. And then Jared Taylor. And Jared Taylor will be on Dlive only. So please make sure you’re subscribed to that, to me on Dlive.

 

But first it’s Dangerfield. It’s Chris Dangerfield. Now I should also say just before we get to that, E Michael Jones has been rescheduled. So tomorrow night there are going to be five hangouts. But do we still use the word “hangouts”? I can’t remember. Anyway there’re going to be five streams and E Michael Jones will be at midnight GMT, tomorrow night.

 

So with that said, I’ll just do the necessary linky stuff with Telegram, and so forth. There we go.

 

And Dangerfield, welcome to Millennial 2020!

 

Dangerfield: What an absolute pleasure! Three years on the trot I think now.

 

Woes: Yes! I think 2018 was the first time. I wasn’t aware of you with Millennial 2017. But by 2018 I think had you started doing the Three Stooges by that time.

 

Dangerfield: I think that’s probably where that link was made. I went [chuckling] and had a look at it and survived about five minutes!

 

Woes: What was that? Was it quite amateurish?

 

Dangerfield: I don’t watch my content back anyway. Not, because I’ve got any issues with my voice. Because I’ve been in stand-up. And I’ve been in bands all my life. So I’m used to hearing my voice.

 

But eeeehh! It was just a bit, you know, when things are significant, and important to you, they’re really significant! And they’re really important! And then when they’re no longer that important. And you see yourself with them fuuckk, blooody! I was like, oh, come on!

 

You know, it’s like when I watch videos around that Gamergate period, when I’m talking about, you know, transgender toilets. And it’s like it’s the most important thing in the world to me. And today I, well lack of a better phrase, couldn’t give a shit about [Woes laughing out loud] gender neutral toilets!

 

Woes: Yeah, it’s funny back, well in 2015 that stuff did seem important. And I guess it was important for a lot of people who were, …… I mean, I started in 2014 knowing Western civilization is in a terrible condition. And I don’t think I believed at that point that it was literally the end of Western civilization. I do now. But definitely I knew that things were very, very serious.

 

But then you’d get people who were more concerned with, who were baffled, rather than doomers. They were more like just:

 

“Well, what the hell is going on? Why are these feminists always moaning about this and that? And this trans thing and gay marriage! We never voted for that! And mass immigration, Islam!”

 

You’d get people who were still feeling around and trying to work out the scope of the problem. But I mean, a lot of them still don’t get the scope of the problem, even now, of course. I think that, I won’t name names. But there are people who still think that this is actually quite a trivial problem. And it’s just there are just some silly people who are “woke”. The woke people. They don’t get this is actually a very deep civilizational malaise.

 

[03:45]

 

Dangerfield: Sure. I think something else that affected me was, for various reasons, 2020 has made me, …

 

Well I might as well actually go into it. I mean, once I turned up in that Times article. I don’t know if you’re aware. I don’t know if anyone watching is aware. There was a Hope Not Hate had done some, what they usually do they decided to call out loads of dissident YouTubers. And the Times picked it up. And I was in that article.

 

And the article was about terrorism! It was about people who are actually planting bombs! They had these images that I had never seen before! I wouldn’t be surprised if they made them up, you know, skulls wearing Waffen SS helmets! And just bizarre images that have nothing to do with my experience of the dissident Right.

 

Woes: Was it a Photoshop of you holding a bomb, or something?

 

Dangerfield: Well it might, just as well have been. But they had me in this, you know, sandwiched in there. And although they couldn’t outright say I was involved the implication was. And they said I was grooming teenage Nazis! And this stuff’s serious! I just thought I had to step back from that.

 

And I luckily, about three weeks before that all happened, I had already decided to make some changes to my account. I thought now the climate has changed. YouTube, with the glory days of like 2010, you say anything you want! You build up a back catalog. You make money out of your back catalog. People can find your channel. They can binge watch five, six hundred videos. And I had about 600 videos.

 

But before the Times article I started thinking my 600 videos are actually the potential for people to use that content against me. Nearly all my videos were improvised. I’ve written about two scripts. And a lot of its jokey. A lot of its edgy jokey. And people can take that stuff out of context. They can put, …

 

Woes: Let me just interject briefly, because I know that this is an important story that you’re telling. And I don’t want to interrupt it.

 

But I mean, Hope Not Hate still use against me something that I said as a joke four years ago! At the end of 2016. I said that I think I might be pro slavery. It was like, yeah someone had asked me:

 

“What’s your most controversial, or your most outrageous Right-wing opinion?”

 

So it was like two in the morning. I’ve been streaming for two hours. I was exhausted. And so I just said, oh, that. There we go. Obviously a joke. And I’ve corrected it. I’ve clarified it multiple times! Surprisingly enough, I’m not pro-slavery!

 

But Hope Not Hate continued to use this, because it’s useful to them. And they can get away with doing that. I mean, they shouldn’t be able to get away with doing that. And this is again why I wish that we had, …

 

This is, you know, people often scoff at me when I say that the movement needs big funding. But this is an example of exactly why. We should be able to just fucking sue these cunts!

 

[06:52]

 

Dangerfield: Yeah.

 

Woes: You are misrepresenting me! You’re deliberately, you’re knowingly misrepresenting me! But we can’t, because we don’t have the funding to do that. And they will use that to get me de-platformed. Get me banned from things. So yeah, we need funding, surprisingly enough.

 

Dangerfield: Well that’s something we can get onto a bit later. Because I’ve been pulling what’s left of my hair out recently about this whole “grifting” thing:

 

“You’re grifting! You’re people are voluntarily donating to your stream you grifter!”

 

You don’t get that on the Left. The Left aren’t complaining about earning money. It’s just all our lot. I get it every day! Emails sent to me!

 

Woes: That’s another, that’s a problem from within our movement.

 

Dangerfield: Yeah!

 

Woes: And there’s a lot to say about that. I mean, I haven’t asked for money. I did the other night just as a one-off, because someone else brought it up. But other than that, I haven’t asked for money since March 2019, march last year. And people still moan at me for that.

 

Dangerfield: But I think that’s your detriment! I think that’s your detriment! And I think it’s your detriment, because of the environment you find yourself in. Anyone watching this channel give Woes some money! He’s doing five streams every day almost! This is hard to organize! Believe me, I do one stream, I kark out for an hour afterwards. Give him some money!

 

But I’d say that you don’t ask for money, because that environment is so toxic! If you were to:

 

“He’s asking for money out there! He’s only put five hours working today!”

 

Woes: I mean, in my specific case I can understand people not donating, because apart from Millenniyule, I’ve hardly made anything for two years, right? That’s a specific case. This is why I don’t really ask for money, because I don’t feel, I think it would be cheeky.

 

But the more broad point is there is a thing in this movement of you should be doing this for the love of it. You should be doing this, because you care about your country. Of course, I fucking do!

 

I mean, if you were doing this for the money you’d be doing something else. [Dangerfield laughing] You could make a lot more money far more easily by doing anything but this!

 

[09:09]

 

Dangerfield: Yeah!

 

Woes: It’s just a silly thing for people to say. But I think it’s a sort of purity spiraling thing.

 

Dangerfield: Without a doubt.

 

Woes: Does he ask for money? Well then he’s a fake! He’s a grifter! It’s:

 

“You should be suffering! You should not be able to get a normal job! And you shouldn’t be asking for money. You should be just the lowest in the lowest position you could be in. And then I’ll believe that you’re genuine!”

 

Dangerfield: It’s absurd!

 

Woes: It’s insane! And it’s not how our enemies got anywhere. Our enemies never had this mentality. They were completely shameless, right? It was, they’re thinking:

 

“Well, I’m doing something good, so why shouldn’t I get remunerated for that!”

 

Their attitude was:

 

“We want as much money as possible, because that creates options, and it strengthens us, and so on.”

 

But, of course, it’s a completely different, … And I remember Hope Not Hate again saying that I was begging! They used the word “begging” for money! But when they put out a funding drive on Twitter to ask for like tens of thousands of pounds to make up for their budget shortfall, well they’re not begging!

 

Dangerfield: No, of course, not.

 

Woes: They’re doing a good thing! [loud laughing] They’re doing good work, ruining people’s lives!

 

Dangerfield: Madness!

 

Woes: Scum!

 

Woes: Yeah, so we were talking about how the movement has evolved.

 

Dangerfield: And yeah, I realized that the environment’s different. I had five, six hundred videos. And I realized that people can chop bits out of it, you know, I was seeing the sorts of things that were happening to other people.

 

And I thought, you know, for the handfuls of views, literally like 20 a week my old content got, it’s not worth having that there. It makes me vulnerable. So I deleted it. You can’t even put it in private. You can get strikes for private videos. It might be private to the viewers. But it’s not private to YouTube. I got a strike for a video I’d already deleted! But that’s a different story.

 

So luckily I got rid of most of that. But they’d obviously done their research before I done all that, because in that time thing, … It was amazing! The quote they put in there, was I’d done a series of videos called “Talking with Teens”. And I said to my viewers:

 

“Are there any teenagers?”

 

I said:

 

“Not 13, 14. 16 and above really, who want to come on my channel and talk about life as a 16 year old, or as a teenager?”

 

That was it! That was it! They made out it was a like some kind of Nazi recruitment drive! And it wasn’t!

 

One of them was this kid with Asperger’s who couldn’t get a girlfriend. One of them was a kid whose parents were disabled, and life was a nightmare for him. It was a wide range of different topics, different kids at university.

 

[12:14]

 

And one of them who had Right-wing views was saying that he does try and get his Right-wing ideas into debates at university. And I said to him:

 

“Listen. I’d suggest not doing that. Keep your head down, because the liberal machine doesn’t want people like you at university.”

 

Basically trying to encourage him to keep his place at university. And they used that quote. They said:

 

“Dangerfield even told one of them to keep his head down, because the liberal machine!”

 

If it was some kind of evil thing!:

 

“You can’t encourage people to keep their place at university!”

 

Woes: So that’s like, okay you’ve got a message so just blare it out indiscriminately regardless of the consequences. If it will actually work, or not. If it will backfire on you, or not. Just talk! Just say it! That’s retarded! The real world doesn’t work like.

 

I mean, again you’ve got to look at what our enemies did. And I’ve said this so many times to so many people about so many different examples.

 

In 1967 they campaigned to legalize homosexual sex, right, behind closed doors, between two consenting adults. What they didn’t do in 1967 was say to the British public of 1967:

 

“We want drag queen story hour.”

 

Because they knew that the British public of 1967 were not ready to hear that, to tolerate it. They would go nuts if they heard that! So they met the public where they were. That’s just human communication. You’re meeting people where they are. This seems to be completely obvious.

 

So that’s to do with what you actually say, but also the context in which you say it. So you don’t do this at a fucking dinner, like a cheese and wine evening, or at a friend’s wedding, or something like that. It’s specific context where this will work. Where it’ll just backfire on you and turn you into a leper! [laughing]

 

Dangerfield: The crazy thing is its people like Hope Not Hate that made me say to this bloke:

 

“Don’t say things like that at university, because they’re part of that problem.”

 

And then they used it against me, and the Times used it against me.

 

So the point is though, the upshot is, the climate has changed. And this idea of having a channel with hundreds of videos, I think that’s finished! I think it’s interesting that people especially on the dissident Right, they’re now on Dlive, you know, that everyone’s gagging for BitChute to sort out streaming, because I think streaming’s where it’s going now. You don’t want all that stuff out there, that makes you really vulnerable!

 

[15:07]

 

You want to do a stream, people watch it live, when it’s finished, it’s done! The amount of people who are putting videos on YouTube now. And when it’s finished it’s gone! You don’t get to see it. And people are like:

 

“Oh, does anyone know where I can see that? No it’s gone.”

 

And what I do now, I stream twice daily. And when I’ve got five streams live, I’d chop a couple off the end. I record two more, I chop two off the end. So there’s only ever five, or six, up there. Now, if I do an interview stream, or if I do a stream that’s quite playful and not really political, I’ll leave that up.

 

But, yeah, I realized this year that I’m not going to let my YouTube channel make me vulnerable. I’m going to do something else.

 

And I’ve changed from being reactive to proactive. I’m not interested in looking at the news and laughing at it, or getting all mad about it. I’m more into trying to give advice, or discuss ideas that we can actually do in our daily lives. Again, because you have to, because you’re not allowed to do that other stuff anymore.

 

Woes: Yeah, it’s definitely a different climate. I don’t like, as you’ve said, you can’t really afford to have a big archive of all your past stuff anymore. I don’t like that, because I loved that there were all these old videos that I was still proud of some of them I was a bit embarrassed about but, you know, from the early days. But still I was happy to have them up. And that was a way that people discovered my channel and discovered me.

 

But YouTube throttled that anyway, because they stopped recommending you. You stop appearing in the recommended lists. So these videos were no longer useful to me in that sense. But they made me vulnerable.

 

Dangerfield: Yeah.

 

Woes: But, of course, the thing is when you take them down that means that no one can watch them anymore. And that is a shame! There are videos that I made, I mean, there’s basically nothing left on my channel about, you know, race, ethnicity, Islam.

 

Dangerfield: Same! Same.

 

Woes: There’s nothing left! And I think it’s a fucking shame!

 

Dangerfield: Yeah. Well, this is the mad thing! You can go in my back catalogue, YouTube are fine with stories of when I was a junkie, when I was a crackhead, doing the most horrific things! No that’s fine! And the press won’t call me out about that.:

 

“Oh, that’s no problem! You can inject in your groin, you can take a dump in the middle of the street, you can have a girl stop breathing when you’re having sex with her. Those videos aren’t a problem! This is YouTube, you’re fine!”

 

And those videos are literally still up! But everything about race? No. Got rid of all of it! You just can’t! That conversation isn’t allowed unless you’re pro those ideas, you’ll lose your channel.

 

[18:08]

 

Woes: Yeah. I mean, this is what’s so frightening about YouTube, they actually got rid of the slogan “broadcast yourself”. For a long time that was YouTube slogan for like, 10, 11, 12 years. They got rid of it.

 

Styx, actually, Styxhexenhammer, made this point about a year ago, or less six months ago, that YouTube got big in the first place, because it wasn’t the mainstream media. And it wasn’t the authorized word. It was little ordinary people putting their voices out there and growing big, because it was independent voices basically.

 

But now YouTube has obviously decided:

 

“We really don’t want this anymore. Yes it’s what made us, it’s what made the platform in the first place, but we don’t need it anymore. And it’s causing us a headache. We’re having to employ thousands of moderation staff and censors.”

 

So I think that they’ve just decided to basically get rid of all of it. And I think in time they will shut down every channel that’s political, unless it’s explicitly progressive. I think even centrist channels will go, as well.

 

Dangerfield: I think it’s an interesting point, because it’s been a bait and switch really. Make a channel, do this, establish the most successful video hosting platform on the internet. And let’s not forget after Google, it’s the biggest search engine! People go to YouTube after Google more than anywhere else to search things! You know, they don’t mind that the content is video. And I think it’s now like it’s an albatross, they’re absolutely gutted. But they can’t just shut it down, because then they hand that power over to someone like BitChute.

 

So I think you’re right. I think they have board meeting after board meeting and they’re pulling their hair out!:

 

“What are we gonna do about this!”

 

Which is [chuckling] good! You’re lumbered with it Alphabet [Google’s parent company]

 

Woes: Yeah. They’re in this weird position where they can’t afford to hand the cultural power to some other website, of being the political video place. Because that’s a huge amount of cultural power for any platform to handle. They want to have that power.

 

But at the same time they don’t want to have those political videos on their platforms! [chuckling] It’s like it’s a very difficult dilemma for them. And I guess what they’re doing is just slowly throttling it.

 

But I think what they’ll also do is, I think they’ll set up rivals to BitChute. I think Silicon Valley will deliberately create, because I do believe that, … For what it’s worth I have talked to the BitChute guy, once, or twice. And he is not very Right-wing. He’s not a nationalist. That’s worth saying. He’s just a guy who genuinely believes in free speech! That’s actually the truth. But he does genuinely believe in free speech.

 

And that’s the thing! Silicon Valley don’t. So what I think they’ll do is they’ll create rivals to BitChute in order to drive traffic away from BitChute. And then they’ll just shut down each of those.

 

[21:23]

 

Dangerfield: They’ll have a struggle though. I talk to Ray a lot, and BitChute is absolutely smashing it! He said I think they got 40 million unique viewers in November! It’s now something like, I think it’s something like the 800th most popular website in America. So out of everything. But it’s about 800. And this is two guys! This is Ray and his mate.

 

And what’s making BitChute a real threat to them now, isn’t a handful of Nazis, because no one really cares about that, it’s now starting to look like YouTube in 2010. There are people doing makeup, how to put your makeup on, whatever they’re called. There are people doing unboxing videos. Oh! It isn’t suddenly this evil dissident Right channel, it’s a video hosting platform. And it’s growing remarkably fast!

 

Woes: Yes it is.

 

Dangerfield: And in terms of what YouTube are going to do about that, I can remember a few years ago when they considered Jordan Peterson to be problematic. Well, I asked my subscribers the other day to give me a one in the chat, how many times do you get recommended Jordan Peterson videos. And everyone said:

 

“Yes!”

 

I get recommended Jordan Peterson after whatever I watch now. And I think that’s the angle they’re taking.

 

Woes: This is amazing isn’t it? [chuckling] I mean, Jordan Peterson is this guy who’s, it’s like they just wheel him out constantly! Like a thousand times a day gets wheeled onto the stage to do the thing!

 

But he’s, I don’t know what to say about that. He’s ineffectual, he’s unconvincing! Yes it’s true that you should tidy your room up! I’m hoping that my background doesn’t look too untidy while I say those words. But yes it’s true that you should get your own life certainly. I’ve always said that! I will make a point of emphasizing that in future. I think it’s better for people to be doing that than to be thinking about, to be leapfrogging that, to:

 

“Oh! I’ve got to change the world!”

 

Best if you get your own life under control first. Then you’re in a better position to change the world. Anyway.

 

That’s his one, that’s really the only good thing that he said, as far as I can see, Jordan Peterson. The rest of it is just flim-flam and waffle! And as he said it himself, that he’s trying to divert people, young men, away from nationalism, identity politics.

 

Dangerfield: And that’s what YouTube are now trying to do with him, as well. I think that’s the angle. They’re now trying to say:

 

“All right, you don’t have to be a progressive, but how about this? Because you don’t have to go over there and look at all that stuff! Because look, we like Jordan! Look, here he is! Yeah loads, loads of him! Read it!”

 

[24:12]

 

Woes: Fucking take your Jordan Peterson! [loud laughing] Be grateful! Enjoy it! Yeah, the message is:

 

“Don’t worry! You don’t have to be a progressive. You can be a complete cuck instead! You can be completely ineffectual instead!”

 

So that’s the option. [chuckling] But it is hilarious. Again it maps into this thing that I have this theory. That there are two poisons. One of them is progressivism, or communism, and the other is Libertarianism, or individualism. And they’re two different poisons designed to appeal to two different key parts of the European psyche. Altruism; communism, progressivism. And in the individual, the sort of innovation that independent-mindedness, that’s what Libertarianism appeals to.

 

And basically you can get almost any White person with one of those two poisons. And that’s why they’re there! Because they both end up in the same place! Which is that you’re an atomized, demented, individual, with no history, no identity, no meaning in your life, you’re just meat! You’re just meat that consumes and buys things!

 

Dangerfield: Sure.

 

Woes: Each of those two poisons results in the same end result.

 

So I think that Jordan Peterson is basically, he’s probably a well-meaning guy, who has been utilized to make that happen. So either you go with feminism. YouTube will give you these two options. It’s either fucking communist, Marxist, feminism, or it’s Jordan Peterson! Those are your options.

 

And, of course, they’ll also throw Douglas Murray in there, occasionally. You know, a bit spicy well. [loud laughing]

 

 

Dangerfield: The thing about Douglas, that’s hilarious, is this is the man that writes, “The Strange Death of Europe”. But ask him for a solution, and the geezer runs a mile! He doesn’t want to go anywhere near the solutions! And so, that’s why you’ll get Douglas Murray. We can all sit back and read and go:

 

“He’s right! Yes! Put the book down and then watch some Jordan!”

 

But you can’t dare say:

 

“Well look, we know this is now happening. Here’s some people who’ve got some ideas that might, maybe change the course of history. No you could [mimics Murray waffling on].”

 

Woes: Yeah, at that point Jordan Peterson will tell you [mimicking Peterson]:

 

“Don’t get into the identity politics!”

 

And Douglas Murray will say:

 

“Oh well, this is reminding me of the 1930s!”

 

Dangerfield: There you go.

 

Woes: So okay, I mean, that’s where he always goes to immediately is:

 

“Ideas from the 1930s, ..”

 

He always fucking does that! [Dangerfield chuckling] He nods his head, it’s a signal to the interviewer to nod his head in agreement. And it always works.

 

But this is his sort of cucky, just don’t care about, I don’t know what to say! I get so exasperated whenever I start talking about Douglas Murray, because he’s so annoying!

 

Because he comes across as very intelligent, erudite. But I just think he’s selling, he’s just selling a sort of very discerning, stuffy, version of cuckoldry. And cowardice!

 

[27:47]

 

Dangerfield: Yes.

 

Woes: I want to like him. But I just wish that he would man up!

 

Dangerfield: Well no, you nailed it. It’s that cowardice. It’s like looking at someone dying and just writing about them dying. And the last chapter is:

 

“And then they died.”

 

Okay. Thanks for your help.

 

Before we move on, because I can feel that’s happening, I just want people watching to just enjoy the fact that we all hate YouTube! We hate what it’s done. We hate what they’ve done to us all. We hate the bait and switch. But it is a real pest for them! It’s causing them big problems! And that’s at least something we can enjoy.

 

Woes: Well, the fact is, they’re still writing reports about us. They’re still campaigning against us. They’re still lobbying social media to ban us, and so on. So they’re obviously still worried about it.

 

I mean from my point of view I don’t really want, and I never did want, to be involved in politics, direct politics. Because I always knew I’m not, I wouldn’t be any good at that.

 

But I do take an interest in dissidence. In general opposition to what I see as an encroaching, … Well frankly, at this point, an encroaching Police State. And I was always against political correctness, that kind of thing. So that remains the case. And I think that’s enough to make them worried about you.

 

You don’t need to be an explicitly whatever, anti-immigration, anti-Islam, anti-LGBT. Just the fact that you’re an independent voice. That you don’t have the rainbow flag somewhere on your channel. That you’re not voicing support for whatever, the latest BLM, that’s enough to make them think:

 

“Okay, you’re not on board. Because if you were on board we would know you were on board.”

 

And I think it’s got to this point where you’re either with them, or they assume that you’re completely against them.

 

[29:55]

 

Dangerfield: But I think there’s ways around it, because again, coming off of the back of that rethinking what I was gonna do as a channel, and deleting all the content. You know, this year I’ve mainly been telling people to start looking after themselves. Start dressing better. Start dressing well. Look after yourself. Get some nice shoes, get a suit made.

 

And this is where I’m going. This is what my content’s about. Set up neighborhood watch organizations, you know, community building actually works.

 

And I think they’re gonna struggle to ban channels like that. And the thing is, it’s overtly nationalist to talk about that. Set up revenue streams for yourself. Some passive, dress well, have self-respect, look after your body, set up things that involve your community.

 

And if people start doing those sorts of things, that will help the nationalist project as a whole immeasurably. And YouTube are going to struggle with that are they going to shut my channel down, because I’ve been telling people to see a bespoke tailor. [Woes laughing]

 

Woes: The latest horror that YouTube is profiting from is giving a platform to people who talk about this [laughing]

 

Dangerfield: But exactly, you know, I see channels like we Renew Britannia, Wes [?] bless him! A young man set up a channel, done loads of work, got very popular, gone! No strikes, or anything, they just got rid of him! And I just thought Wes, and I told him this:

 

“You’re in the 2016 model of dissidents. And they’ve got the TOS [Terms of Service] now to just wipe you off! You can’t do that anymore. But what you can do instead of that reactive stuff, don’t talk about.”

 

I can’t even think what, ..

 

Woes: The latest atrocity.

 

Dangerfield: Yeah! Don’t talk about that! Talk about things we can actually do to be proactive. And it kind of keeps us safe. And it’s worth doing.

 

Woes: Yes. And it’s also more productive. I mean, I think it’s better. It just makes you feel better, than constantly ruminating over what the Left has done now, or what some foreign element has done now. Because then you’re just their victim. And you’re constantly waiting for them to do the next thing so that you can then be outraged about it. That isn’t a good, it’s unhealthy! And I did unknowingly, unwittingly, do that for a while.

 

And I remember one stream I did in 2016 with my two friends, Reactionary Expat and Pale Hominid, we were going over the news, we did it once a month, and we’re going over the news of what everything that had happened in that month. And it was just unbelievable! I think it was in like June, July that year. And it was just an astonishing catalogue of things that had happened across Europe with the migrants, and so on. And I did think while I was doing it:

 

“Is this actually helping anyone?”

 

And then in the next year, in 2017, I started to have more doubts, because I started to think:

 

“Well we all know all this already, and there must be something more.”

 

And that’s what I’ve always been thinking about. That’s just partly why I was inactive for so long, because I was thinking:

 

“Well, now that we know the problem, or now that we at least have enumerated the symptoms of the problem, now what? Because there’s no point just continuing to do that, because that really is just, that actually is grifting. That’s just, you know, milking people’s disaffection. So what to do next?”

 

And I really wasn’t sure. But it’s at the point, I’ve kind of reached a similar conclusion to the one you’ve reached. Which is, it’s better to just encourage people to work on themselves.

 

And actually, the best way you can do that is to do it yourself, and be an example, I think, to other people. So that’s what I intend to do in future. I wanted to do it this year, but things got waylaid by Covid and the lockdown. And by other things as well, that we don’t need to go into. But yeah, that was my plan for this year.

 

[34:19]

 

Dangerfield: No, for sure! And look I understand there is an argument perhaps that:

 

“Well, we all know what the problems are, but maybe youngsters don’t.”

 

But they live it! They go to their schools, they’re seeing what’s happening. You know, they’re living it! They know what the problems are don’t worry about that! They’re not having to predict them, they live them! And there’s channels like this is why we fight. Very proactive, you know, talking about self-sufficiency. And they’ve got this ward idea they do. It’s a very small channel at the moment, but it’s really optimistic! And people come away from that feeling empowered!

 

Woes: What channel is that?

 

Dangerfield: It’s called “This is Why We Fight”. It’s very small. But they’re actually trying to strategize about the things that we need to do. We need to build stronger communities. We need to be more sufficient self-sufficient. And we need to get away from corporations.

 

The reason I talk about clothes, and my subscribers are getting proper sick of it! We’ve had a different culture imposed upon us! When I see people walking around in sportswear, that’s not English! That’s nothing to do about history that wasn’t a development that come through the Edwardians, and the Victorians, and through the wars, and all of a sudden. No! That’s been imposed on us by massive corporations, who have outright shown that they hate us! They hate us!

 

And I see loads of people walking around, especially the youth, in what is essentially African-American streetwear. And it’s appalling! And if you’re going to support that and give your money to those corporations, bearing in mind your polyester trousers are going to wear out in a year and you’re going to have to buy a new pair, compared with a bespoke suit which is in the classic style. Which is part of our ancestry, part of our history. A local tailor with cloth sourced from England, or Scotland, or the UK. It’s becoming more local. That is overtly nationalist, and it’s going to last you 20, 30 years.

 

[36:26]

 

Woes: Yeah.

 

Dangerfield: And these are the things that I’m now talking about. Because all that other stuff you were saying. About those channels where people read the news, I can’t watch them! I don’t want to see White people getting the shit kicked out of them for breakfast! I don’t want to finish my day’s work and:

 

“Oh, I see. They burnt down another church in France!”

 

And it does depress you. And then the problem with that is everyone’s getting black-pilled. Black-pilled gets rid of hope and optimism. And without hope and optimism you can’t win any fights! You lose them all!

 

Woes: Yeah. Very much. I think it’s an interesting thing, because you’ve got to be careful about the lessons that you learn. Because the lessons that you learn will affect your behavior going forward. But the lessons you learn are selected by the things that you do. So if you do things that are going to result in failure, then you’re going to learn the lesson of failure.

 

Dangerfield: Sure. Sure.

 

Woes: So, in other words, if you focus on what’s going bad in the world, then that is going to get you down. And then that in turn is going to make you feel impotent! And that’s not surprising. And so I think you’re absolutely right! That it’s better to focus on what you can do and, as you say, a proactive attitude.

 

Because, god knows, there’s enough shit going on. I mean, seriously I’m the same as you. I cannot watch a lot of stuff that once upon a time I watched religiously. I just can’t do it anymore! It’s too depressing.

 

Now, someone made the point in the live chat that there are a lot of people just arriving at certain realizations, and they do need to see this stuff. And that’s true. But I’m happy for other people to show them, this stuff.

 

Dangerfield: Spend a couple of hours on BitChute, you’ll be fine.

 

Woes: Yeah! Yeah, exactly!

 

Dangerfield: The other thing is, look England, I keep saying England, but Great Britain, is still probably one of the best places on the planet to live! It still is! By a long chalk! It’s a fantastic place! If you want to generate revenue, the UK is a fantastic place to be in! You can generate wealth there! The amount of people here going:

 

“Well there’s no jobs! There’s no jobs!”

 

Fuck jobs! Generate wealth! Make a job! I live in a country where there’s no welfare. If you’d haven’t got any money, you don’t eat. And so people create wealth. They generate it so that they can eat. And they manage to feed families of 20, 30 people, because they have to!

 

And how easy it is to do that in the UK, is unbelievable! It’s still a fantastic nation! And also if we’re generating wealth, setting up businesses, making passive, and active revenue streams. If we’re doing that, that money isn’t available for, let’s just say, other people. It makes you stronger. It’s overtly nationalist to make money. It’s overtly nationalist to be an entrepreneur. And so encourage people to do this, especially young people. Because they’re walking around saying:

 

“Well, there’s no jobs!”

 

Woes: Get into crypto! [loud laughing] This is one of the reasons I want people to get into crypto, because I know there are no jobs. It’s shit! And it’s not something that I want to take lightly at all, or trivialize.

 

But, as Dangerfield says, you could start your own business, or you could get into crypto and investments. And I know how ridiculous that sounds to a lot of people who are young, who don’t have any money! But just trust me on this. Well you don’t need to trust me on this, you can do what you like.

 

But I would advise that you get into to crypto. And I definitely would advise that you look for other thing ways that you could make yourself useful to the community. And including your local community, as well, not just the online community.

 

[40:30]

 

Dangerfield: There are, I mean, look I’ve got crypto. I’ve made and lost a fortune in crypto. It’s gambling! It’s gambling! That’s all it is really.

 

But I think if you spread your portfolio, bit of precious metals. And you haven’t got to go and buy a kilo of gold. You can go and buy a gram of gold. Get one of them every few months. Get a couple of grams of silver, then chip a little bit into your crypto.

 

But there’s just so many ways of generating money in a nation like England, in somewhere like Great Britain. You don’t only have to wait for someone to give you a job. You could just find ways to make money. You know, I lost the one that I had though. I had an example of something. But I would be a bit careful about just putting all your money into crypto.

 

Woes: Oh yeah.

 

Dangerfield: I mean, a good old ISA [Individual Savings Account] is still a good way, a reliable way, of making your money go up. I’d probably say if you haven’t got a lot of money, an ISA is a better idea than crypto, at this stage.

 

But if you come into a few grand maybe, maybe put a grand into crypto, and then four grand in your ISA. And get your 20 grand annual ISA allowance.

 

Woes: Yeah. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that I would rather be telling people. And that I would rather people were finding. This is much more useful to you than, :

 

“Oh! Another mosque built in this, and another town!”

 

Yeah that is bad! It’s depressing! It’s another sign of the cultural change. But the issue is, well what are you going to do? What can be done about it? And that’s something I’m not sure we should go into in this stream. But I think that we need to start thinking very practically, put it that way. Because dreaming that:

 

“Well, if we complain enough about this, then the powers that be will change their minds about it.”

 

That’s obviously not the case. They would have changed their minds about it in 1960, if they were going to do that, or 1970, but not now. So I mean, yeah, again we’re veering into territory that I don’t think is safe for YouTube anymore.

 

But all I would say is I’m not saying don’t care about this. Of course you should care about this. But I think that you should approach it in ways that are realistic. Because there are so many people who just are not realistic about these things.

 

[43:02]

 

Dangerfield: I think that the point I was going to say was there are countless resources on the internet for entrepreneurs who haven’t got a pot to piss in. You can go and join these forums and you can read countless stories of people who are in situations like you might be, where you’ve just left school, or you’ve just left university. You’re living at your parents house and there’s no employment, or there’s nothing exciting. You don’t want to wash dishes down your local hospital.

 

And there’s thousands, upon thousands, of stories in full detail, because people are proud of what they’ve done! How they’ve done it, how they set up their business. There’s no one way to be an entrepreneur! There’s the way you do it that’s successful.

 

And, rather than sitting around watching videos of bombs going off all the time, or god knows what, you could be spending that time on entrepreneurial forums reading how people done it. Doing that kind of research. Looking at your options. Start putting a little bit of money together away. So when you’ve got your five grand, you can make a little investment. And then you can start turning it over, doing a product, or a service, or whatever it is you want to do, based on the stuff you’ve learned from these forums.

 

And again, that will make us stronger. That makes us stronger as individuals. When you’re stronger as an individual and you’ve started generating wealth you’re more likely to have bigger families. So if we’re having bigger families across the nation, you know, once you’ve got bigger families happening then you start getting stronger communities. And then you can obviously see where I’m going with that.

 

It’s just a question of being proactive about our future, rather than just dwelling on this reactive stuff, that had a function four years ago. But now, not so much.

 

Woes: Yeah, I agree. Well, we’re at 45 minutes now, so we should probably finish in about 15 minutes, just for the sake of my health. But before we do that would you like to talk about 2020? Because that’s what we were thinking we were going to do. We’ve actually gone on a 45-minute detour. But we were going to talk about the year, or your general feelings about this year. So what would you say about that?

 

Dangerfield: Well, it seemed to start with, … I am the eternal optimist and I’m eternally hopeful. Because I know that, strategically that’s important. Psychologically that’s important. And the year seemed to start very optimistically on various fronts, various projects. And I remember thinking, this is interesting — got to be a little bit careful with this bit, because again we’re on YouTube — but what’s just happened in America seems to be quite a disaster really. The year’s ended disastrously, because I think without the “God Emperor” — do I really have to say:

 

“I know he’s not our man.”

 

Why does everyone always say that after they mention him? I know he’s not our man, all right? Everyone knows he’s not a man. But the alternative really isn’t our man. And he’s against us!

 

Woes: Oh yes.

 

Dangerfield: And that’s been quite, … You know, when I heard Greg Johnson talking about the realities of — I think it was Greg — the realities of what is going to happen when that man starts doing things concerning people like us, it seems to have ended quite the opposite. The year ended quite on the opposite of how it started. I started the year thinking:

 

“Wow! This is amazing, this is amazing! Look what’s happening here!”

 

And this little turnout has proven shocking. And again I know you can’t say too much. But I am convinced what’s being said that happened, is what happened.

 

Woes: It’s amazing how cryptic we have to be! Unbelievable! But yeah, so am I. I’m also convinced that what is being said happened, did happen, yeah.

 

Dangerfield: And you’re not allowed to talk about it. Which doesn’t make me think:

 

“Oh, okay, then I’m wrong.”

 

It makes me think:

 

“Well yeah, thanks for confirming my suspicions.”

 

Woes: Let me, actually I’ve got a good thing that I could read out to you, because I was thinking how could how to fit this into to Millenniyule. And I found this thing. Did I accidentally, I think I might have accidentally closed it. Ah shit! I think I have. Damn! How annoying!

 

There was a thing that I find on Facebook, because I hardly ever go to Facebook nowadays. But I did the other day. And someone was basically making the point that, imagine if we’d had the attitude to news and commentary that we have today. Imagine if we’d had the same attitude throughout history. Basically so many things wouldn’t have happened. Even the founding of America. And then the American civil war, and so on. All of these things it would have been fact checking, you know, rumor control, authorized sources. All of this would have thwarted any sort of innovation, or change, basically!

 

You see that’s what this is now. What’s emerged with social media is an engine to maintain the status quo, and to direct people in certain ways. But especially to just maintain the status quo.

 

Dangerfield: Well also to contain an illusion, a particular interpretation of it. So it’s not like you even get to see what they want you to see, you get to see the illusion they want you to see. It’s barking mad!

 

[49:01]

 

Woes: Yeah. It’s incredible! Hold on a second. Yeah, it’s this illusion. And I do think that — and I talked about this with Apollonian Germ last night, which is on BitChute, by the way — it is amazing how distant most people are, the general public, from our understanding of things. They really do believe what they see on the BBC, or on Fox News, or CNN, or Twitter, Facebook, to a great extent, still.

 

And it’s a shame because, you know, five years ago we really thought that we were replacing the mainstream media. And we probably were in actuality. It probably was the case. But then they joined forces with Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and then banned us! Or deplatformed us, and throttled us, and so on.

 

Now that’s not the end of the matter. And I don’t want it, you know, I don’t want the end of it to be this note of despair. I’m just noting that they have to put a huge amount of effort into maintaining the public’s ignorance and acquiescence.

 

Dangerfield: But it’s rather desperate that all they can do is try and silence us. And look at the speed that BitChute’s grown. Look at the speed that Parlor’s grown. The speed the brand new Tuba [?]. There’s all loads of others popping up. I think that the cat’s out the bag, and they can’t win that. I think it’s the desperate flailing of an empire on its last legs.

 

The mainstream media empire of the 20th century is literally just going:

 

“Shut it down! Shut them up! Just shut them up!”

 

And it’s not working. There’s a temporary kind of, sort of, the balance of power has gone back to them. But as these other platforms grow, I think that’s, … Look at all the surveys into the mainstream media. Faith is just going through the floor! People just don’t go for it! And that’s people now!

 

Zoomers, you know, come on! They’re not buying any of that nonsense. I’m absolutely confident they’re not.

 

Woes: I’ve managed to find this thing. And I’ll read it. And then we can maybe wrap up. It is actually quite lengthy. But I’ll go through it:

 

“Did you happen to catch the hearings with Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey? I thought it was fascinating. A lot of interesting points were raised. And I like doing thought experiments about this issue. Imagine if Facebook and Twitter had existed at the time of the American revolution. Could the revolution have occurred at all? I mean, if the largest disseminators of information to the populace had refused to let ideas and debates happen openly in the public square, then where would America be right now? Would Twitter and Facebook block the organizers of the Boston tea party from organizing on the grounds of inciting violence and criminal activity against the reigning British government? Would Twitter and Facebook block the likes of Benjamin Franklin time George Washington time from publishing their ideas and advancing ideas of limited governmental power and personal freedom and liberty?”

 

And so on, and so on. It comes out with other examples. But I think I’ll just read the last paragraph:

 

“I also wonder about social media companies policies on conspiracy theories. Some actually turn out to be true! Like project MK-Ultra, when the United States government, via the CIA, undertook immoral experiments on their own citizens in an effort to force confessions, and have a type of mind control of people. It’s all documented! My point is, without the freedom and ability to speak, discuss, debate, and examine, issues freely and openly we lose the ability to ever get at the truth. I feel that’s a danger in any free and open society, and people.”

 

Woes: So yeah, I thought that was quite an interesting post.

 

[53:02]

 

Dangerfield: But on that. And I think it’s relevant with what we’ve been talking about, YouTube and the internet. Don’t forget that the “clear net”, the Google internet, it’s only the tip of the iceberg. The internet is huge! This huge, massive, almost infinite space! And if we did get banned to that extent. If you couldn’t say anything that was vaguely controversial, or dissident, well I think we’ll be using Tor browsers.

 

And the day that happens, the day where we’re now going into the dark web to have our conversations, we’ll be absolutely free as a bird! I mean, I’m not into, oh what’s it called when you things all speed up and it gets worse really quickly?

 

Woes: Accelerationism.

 

Dangerfield: Yeah I’m not really into accelerationism. But, the day that people like us are on the darknet, incredible! Absolutely incredible! Because Google, YouTube, Alphabet, have got no place there! It’s not theirs! We are currently fighting this on their terms in the clear net. But once we go under that, we rule that! We’ve got the technology there, not them. They don’t! We get to chuck them out! [Woes laughs] And that’s coming! I think that’s coming.

 

And what a fantastic, … You talk about crypto, well that’s how I learned about crypto. Because I had to use a Tor browser to make purchases in the dark net. But people talk about these people owning the internet. They own a tiny little fraction of it. But yeah, I don’t fear that we’ll ever end up in a place where we can’t talk.

 

Woes: Well I hope not. I definitely hope not, because it just seems, certainly for me, it’s just become an absolutely central part of my life, even though I haven’t done it much for the last two years. The experience of being able to communicate with a very large number of people is something that’s just precious! I mean, it just changes your life really.

 

I mean, I know that if I get banned from YouTube — which is probably going to happen soon — I’ll still have BitChute, and I’ll still have Telegram. And I have like two and a half thousand people on there. So it’s not like that would be the end of the matter.

 

But still, it’s not something I’m looking forward to, to be honest, because I do — even though I don’t make much use of my channel these days — I do enjoy having it. I do enjoy the ability. And it used to be great, you know, that’s the thing. It’s now something that I treat very, very delicately. But it used to be that you could just say whatever you liked. And it was a wonderful feeling to be able to just be candid.

 

Dangerfield: You know, you wake up and your channel’s gone, every day!

 

Woes: Yeah. Yeah, definitely, exactly.

 

Dangerfield: Ray told me BitChute are going to have streaming, live streaming in 2021. And I went on the beta, and it’s all there set up. They’re just waiting to get it finished.

 

[56:00]

 

Woes: Oh fantastic! That’s great news!

 

Dangerfield: It’s all very well people saying:

 

“Get on Dlive! Get on Dlive!”

 

Dlive isn’t a free speech platform. It’s just everyone over there is under the radar. It’s not a free speech platform.

 

Woes: No. But it is its useful in the meantime.

 

Dangerfield: Sure.

 

Woes: But it’s definitely, I do agree with you that ultimately we need a platform that is dedicated to free speech. And that’s where we will be safe. That’s where it will be safe to speak openly. Although, as I’ve said, I’m not actually that interested in talking about these very dangerous topics anymore.

 

Dangerfield: So do I

 

Woes: Because I feel like I’ve said everything about it that I wanted to say. But yeah, it’s interesting times we’re living in. Let’s put it that way.

 

Dangerfield: And then look, let’s not forget, life’s always been a struggle. It’s always been a struggle for resources and power. And that’s where we are! Welcome to the world!

 

Woes: It’s a nice way to end. All right. Well let’s wrap it up there. So this is Chris Dangerfield. His channel is linked below, and you can get to there. And all right, you are on Telegram as well, you have a Telegram channel?

 

Dangerfield: I’m on Telegram, yeah. t.me/strangerfield.

 

Woes: Okay.

 

Dangerfield: I stream live twice a day, about half seven to eight. Starts about half seven, eight o’clock am English time. And then another one at four o’clock in the afternoon, English time, every day.

 

Woes: All right. Okay, I was muted. Okay. Well I’ll end it there. I really enjoyed this one. I’m sure that everyone else did. And okay, oh there’s one superchat, sorry! I forgot about that. Okay, this is not really connected to what we’re saying. But it’s a fifty dollar superchat!

 

Dangerfield: Well done! Give this man his money!

 

Woes: Thank you! It’s weird, Superchat seems to have died this year. I’m hardly getting any this year. Maybe it’s something that people aren’t aware that you can still do with Entropy. But anyway, here’s one:

 

“Any opinion on Steve Franson teaming up with Nick Fuentes? I asked Franson on Dlive if he’d be on Millenniyule this year. He was on in 2017. I think that’s the only time he’s been on. I asked him if he’d be on Millenniyule this year. He said ‘No. He was going in a different direction.’ He also said that ‘America First doesn’t need any more talent in the leadership area’, which raised my eyebrows. All the best woes.”

 

Well this is about very, very obviously, very much the American scene. And I honestly have completely fallen out of sync with, … I mean, in 2015 and 16 were there was a very close connection between Britain, and especially me, and the American the Alt-Right, as such. But honestly I definitely drifted apart for various reasons.

 

And, at this point, it’s well, Nick Fuentes in America First. I really don’t know much about them. And I don’t know much about Steve France neither. To be honest. I know that he’s on BitChute. I’ve got nothing against the guy. I watch his videos sometimes, but it just feels like, …

 

And this is weird to say this, because there are actually quite a lot of Americans on Millennial this year. But I really feel like we’re just operating in different arenas, because of the first amendment and the second amendment that leads to a different culture in America. Where they have different presuppositions about the way civic life is. I don’t know, there feels like there’s a big distance. And so they have a different war to fight.

 

Dangerfield: Sure. I think the biggest difference is our clock is ticking a lot faster than theirs, just due to the size of their nation.

 

Woes: Right.

 

Dangerfield: I can’t remember who said it, but they have — Kai Murros — they’ve got the luxury of White flight for about another 100 years. We haven’t! You run out of London, you’re in Birmingham.

 

Woes: Yes. Yes. It is a different thing. So do you have any comment on Steve Franson teaming up with Nick Francis? I don’t, because I’m not familiar enough with the stuff.

 

Dangerfield: I don’t really. I don’t really know what I make of Nick Fuentes. I think it’s probably quite a young audience. I think it serves a certain function. Actually it’s probably serving the function that we were talking about YouTube channels were in 2016. It’s probably bringing people in who aren’t too aware of what’s going on. And then they’ll move off and end up somewhere more proactive. But I don’t watch it enough to be able to help you earn that bull’s eye [chuckling].

 

Woes: All right, okay. Well we’ll just end it there then. Yeah, I don’t know either, so okay. Well this has been fun it’s been a lot of good points raised. So thank you for appearing on Millenniyule 2020 Dangerfield.

 

Woes: Thank you very much for asking me on. It’s always a pleasure.

 

Woes: All right. Thank you very much I’ll be back in an about an hour 45 minutes with Red Pill Germany. In the meantime, thanks for watching.

 

[61:38]

 

 

 

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See Also:

 

Millennial Woes with Morgoth on Brexit — Jul 2, 2016 — TRANSCRIPT

A Woes By Any Other Name — TRANSCRIPT

Millennial Woes – To Be a Man in 2017 – Speech at Erkenbrand dinner — TRANSCRIPT

Millennial Woes – One Hour from Now – Speech to Erkenbrand — TRANSCRIPT

Millennial Woes’ Millenniyule 2017 No. 66 – Morgoth — TRANSCRIPT

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Laura: Okay. Good evening ladies and gentlemen. We should be live welcome to the stream. I hope everybody’s doing well it’s Sunday evening at seven o’clock in the United Kingdom. And anybody who’s listened to the last couple of streams that I’ve done you might remember that I said I was going to do a stream every month.

 

So this is my August stream. And I thought I’d do it this week, because this week is my birthday. So, I thought it might be fun to do a bit of a birthday stream. It’s not actually today but it is this week. So it’s like my birthday week stream, I guess.

 

So I’ve had a really good weekend. Yesterday we went away and stayed overnight in like a converted barn kind of thing. It was really cozy went out for some food for my birthday and then today we had a Yorkshire regional group, you know, the Patriotic Alternative regional group meet up. And we went for a hike and we walked about I think about six and a half miles.

 

And Mark we actually broke the record for the youngest ever hiker. The previous record was a young girl of 10 years old who comes with a dad. But today we had a six-year-old boy who walked with us and he walked about six and a half miles. I mean, to be fair he did spend most of that on his dad’s shoulders, but he gave it a shot.

 

So let’s just jump straight in. We’ve got until about half past eight. So we’ve got an hour and a half.

 

But let me introduce my three guests. So first of all I’m joined by Mark Collett who needs no introduction but I’ll give him a quick introduction anyway. He was described by Hope Not Hate last week as being one of the UK’s most notorious fascist figures! [chuckling] Mark and how are you?

 

 

Mark: I’m very well I’m just slightly disappointed that I wasn’t the most, just one of the most, which means I have more work to do. Very happy birthday to you Laura! How does it feel to reach the big 4-0 [laughter]?

 

Laura: There’s gonna be another rumor going round!

 

Mark: That’s just a little troll for all the people who have spent the last month trying to work out your age. And after all of their big brain takes they still got it wrong. We know you are not over 40! Thank you for such a lovely introduction. And also well done on the event today. That is fantastic news that we’ve got a new youngest PA hiker! That is absolutely brilliant! That is what I like to hear!

 

I really look forward to the eventual time when we get a proper family event up and running, so we actually get whole families turning up. And I think that would be a really positive development for us.

 

Laura: Yeah the hikes if anyone’s not been to a PA event before, do get involved, because they are very family focused. We also had a girl who came to our group today and she’s never been to any event before. So it was her first event. She had a really nice time we went for the hike. She actually threw it down as well.

 

I got home and my socks were wet! There’s nothing worse than wet socks! But afterwards we went for some food in the pub and yeah, it was just really nice.

 

 

You know, if women are turning up by themselves, then it must be quite a comfortable safe environment. So yeah, it was really good!

 

So I’ll move on to the Ayatollah who is back by popular demand. My audience absolutely loved the Ayatollah. I’m not sure what to say to be honest, but I’m joking. But so he is one third of the TASOB podcast, The Absolute State Of Britain podcast, and I hear you’ve actually started your own YouTube channel as well. Is that right the Ayatollah?

 

 

Ayatollah: Yeah I have, although I’m starting to feel a little bit guilty, because I’ve been plugging it for a good month, or more now, I’ve not actually done anything yet. But the plan is, once I’ve figured out things like, you know, Entropy and Superchats to start doing a sort of a light-hearted stream on a Friday night. Now D-Day at the moment, if you forgive the inclement analogy, given all the things we understand, is going to be Friday the 4th of September. So I’ll get something sorted out for them. But it should be a good laugh.

 

But yeah, happy birthday Laura! I logged into Twitter to promote, sort of retweet, and let everyone know that I was on your channel. And then like my mentions were deluged with like birthday wishes for you. I suppose, you know, when I’m in the 80s, I hope people care about me as much as they do about you! [chuckling].

 

Because, you know, I was leafing through my bible earlier on and I forgot that you do actually get a couple of mentions in the last stages of the Old Testament when they’re talking about, you know, rising nativism, over in northwestern Europe!

 

So it sounds like you spent your birthday on the set of Emmerdale Farm, and then like you went to see the wolf pack. And then you like the next day you went for a ramble with the Dingle family, or something. Am I sort missing any details, I’m missing there?

 

Laura: It was exactly like that, yeah!

 

Ayatollah: Yeah, yeah very, Yorkshire!

 

[05:00]

 

Laura: Yeah proper Yorkshire. Yeah, it was in North Yorkshire that we went to. It was dead good.

 

So yeah, so my third and final guest, sorry for making you wait so long, but it’s Horus! Who is a video maker and he makes really informative videos about, usually about historical topics, but all sorts of stuff. I think everybody who’s watching will be familiar with who Horus is. But hello Horus how are you?

 

 

Horus: I’m good thanks, yeah. Happy birthday! And did you have Yorkshire pudding yesterday, or?

 

Laura: No, I didn’t actually I’m kind of addicted to Hunter’s Chicken at the moment. Every time I go out, I just have Hunter’s Chicken. So it’s like chicken, bacon, cheese, and barbecue sauce. And I’ll just have that with salad. But yeah, I had Hunter’s Chicken. I’m actually going to start doing keto tomorrow. And yeah, we’ve decided, me and my fiancee, that we’re going to start doing keto tomorrow

 

Ayatollah: Tomorrow!

 

Laura: yeah [chuckling] because I’ve been eating really healthy for about six months now. But I just want to kind of speed things up a little bit. Obviously getting married in November. So yeah, high fat, low carbs, I think it is. But I need to research it a bit more. But yeah.

 

So we’ve got some good topics to talk about today. And I mentioned earlier that Mark was described by Hope Not Hate as one of the UK’s most notorious fascist figures. I’m not sure who the other ones are. But I thought we’d talk about the report from Hope Not Hate, because I’ve titled this video “Are We the Bad Guys?”.

 

And obviously according to Hope Not Hate we are the bad guys. Just one moment let me share my screen. Entire screen. So the screen should be sharing now. And this is the tweet that Hope Not Hate put out when they announced their incredibly scary report.

 

 

Look how over-dramatic it is. It’s like:

 

“WARNING: NEW FASCIST GROUP IS TRYING TO REVIVE RACE SUPREMACY IN THE UK

Read our report on Patriotic Alternative, a fascist, anti-semitic, White nationalist organization trying to unite the British far-right.

READ IT NOW”

 

It’s just so over emotional and effeminate. And they always use this photograph of me and Mark, where I think we just look incredible and nice! [chuckling] And it just doesn’t make sense to have those crazy emojis and capital letters and stuff next to that photo.

 

But let’s take a look at the report, because it’s just so over emotional and, so over the top! So it’s Patriotic Alternative let’s see if I can, … Can you guys see that on the screen all right?

 

Horus: Love that picture!

 

 

Laura: Yeah. So that’s the banner that we did at the top of Mam Tor*, White Lives Matter. There’s obviously me and Mark stood at the side. Yes, so it’s like:

 

“It’s founder is Mark Collett, formerly Director of Publicity for the British National Party, one of the UK’s most notorious fascist figures.”

 

It talks about who we are:

 

“What is Patriotic Alternative?”

 

That’s our excellent banner as well, that we did outside York Minster, for Indigenous Peoples Day. The speakers from the last conference. And then it talks about our “extremism”. So it’s things like “fascism, racism ‘Holocaust’ denial”.

 

 

There’s a bit about the Hundred Handers there. Mark Collett. I’ve got my bit. It’s now Laura Tyrie, aka, Laura Towler. I think it’s going to be Laura Axley Lennon [laughter]! One of those things now, where they always feel the need to say that. And there’s some quotes from Mark.

 

 

I was laughing my head off at these quotes, [chuckling] because they’re from like 20 years ago! And they just seem like so out of place, and mental!

 

I hate that photograph that they use of me as well. I feel like I look bug eyed. But I think I chose that one, because I wasn’t smiling on it. Some more photos from Indigenous People’s Day.

 

It’s just a really kind of rushed, over emotional, report. And I thought it might be good this evening to kind of explore what it means to be “good” and “bad”. Because we get told all the time that we’re really bad people, that we’re extreme! That we want to like murder everyone, and stuff like that. And we don’t! We just love the British! And we love Britain, and we want to keep it safe.

 

And I think the difference between nationalism and globalism, is that nationalists care about their people and understand that they can’t save the whole world, whereas globalists want to save the whole world, but they’ll do that to a detriment of their own people. And it puts our own people at risk. So I don’t understand why, well I do understand why, but, you know, playing devil’s advocate, we have to be the bad guys all the time.

 

But if we go around the panel. Mark do you want to talk about it first? You’ve put up with this for 20 years haven’t you? You’ve been like the most evil person in the world!

 

[* Mam Tor — is a 517 m hill near Castleton in the High Peak of Derbyshire, England. Its name means “mother hill”, so called because frequent landslips on its eastern face have resulted in a multitude of “mini-hills” beneath it.]

 

[09:30]

 

Mark: Official? Is that now my official title? Officially, de facto, the most evil person in the whole world! Yeah, I have! And it’s kind of one of those crosses that you have to bear. And it’s very interesting really, because really we’re trying to simply create a future for our children. We’re trying to secure the existence of our people. And what really could be more noble, or more natural than making your life’s work to ensure that your kind survive, that you prosper? And doing so in your own nation. We’re not talking about setting up empire 2.0! We’re not talking about colonizing other people’s nations. We’re not saying:

 

“Well our nation is going to be destroyed by natural disasters, so we need to invade another country and take it over.”

 

We’re just saying:

 

“We want the land our ancestors lived on, we want it for us! And we want to survive! And we want to take our destiny into our own hands!”

 

Now, none of that is really, particularly, outrageous. It’s not outrageous at all in fact! And it is something that’s afforded to every other group.

 

Yet when we try to do it we are the bad guys. And often one of the difficult things is, you’re treated as bad guys for trying to warn people that such terror is coming their way.

 

And for two decades I’ve been saying this is going to get worse! We’re going to become a minority! And as we become a minority, we will become victims of racial attacks, of grooming, we will be treated worse than second-class citizens, and will become an absolute underclass!

 

And obviously, as those two decades went by, my position has become more and more vindicated.

 

But even so, even in today’s climate. When you see so many problems in the West. When you see “Black Lives Matter”. When you see the problem with the promotion of pedophilia by the mainstream media, by Netflix. When you see who controls the media. When you see the messages they’re pushing on school children. When you see mass immigration. When you see the number of people coming in illegally. You see all of these problems, we’re still treated as the bad guys for pointing it out. And I think that is a cross we have to bear, we have to bear it, and we have to smile.

 

The only thing we must always be careful not to do is when we present ourselves, we must always be smiley and nice.

 

 

And I think in the past one of the problems that nationalism’s had is, because we’ve always been called the bad guys people have played up to that stereotype. And I think that’s a bad thing. And one of the great things about PA, is the pictures they’ve got from us at all PA events absolutely fantastic! And anyone looking at the pictures of us and the kind of events we hold and the people who attend it and then looking at the bad guy narrative, are going to be very confused, because there’s a huge disconnect there between their narrative and reality.

 

Laura: Yeah, that’s absolutely spot on! And I remember when I gave my speech at the last Patriotic Alternative conference and I finished by saying the words:

 

“If we have to bear the burden of being villains, then so be it.”

 

And I think in a way you kind of you do end up embracing it and just thinking:

 

“Call me whatever you want, I do not care!”

 

And it’s like water off of a ducks back. You get called every single name so many times you just you stop caring. Like you literally do not care. But that doesn’t mean that we should start acting like bad people. I think you should embrace it in a way where you don’t allow it to get to you.

 

I think the thing that I really love about PA is how it’s so family focused, and it’s not people wanting to go out and have a scrap. I mean, sometimes you get really angry and you do just kind of want to punch someone. But we always have to remember why we’re involved in this.

 

And Ayatollah, if I could come to you, you’re probably, if I had to name one person who responds the best to being called names, [chuckling] it’s probably you. You really do embrace it, don’t you, on Twitter?

 

Ayatollah: Yeah, with a little help from the late, great, Derrick Day. Yeah, you know, to be honest, the older I get the less, and less, patience I have with these people. So what I did was I set a little time aside, took some video clips from things like Father Ted, and other sorts of things like that. And I tend to just respond to these people with those.

 

These people, look. There are certain ways in which they got power over you if they’re able to dox you, you know, try and get you sacked, or whatever, threaten you with violence.

 

In a lot of context though if you’re upset, like the most they can do is wield their anti-White false morality. And if you show them, if you just give that the finger, all they can do is be outraged at you for being a transgressor against the occupier’s morality.

 

I mean, just to pick up pick up on something Mark was saying about, you know, his position’s always been the same, and he’s been vindicated. I mean, just to attest to that, if you look back at the old Russell Brand thing featuring Mark from years ago. There’s clips of it on YouTube. You go in the comments on those YouTube clips and it’s full of people saying:

 

“Yeah, well Collett was right wasn’t he Russell? He was right, wasn’t he?”

 

I mean, look at us now! Look at the ‘new normal’ Russell, 15 years on, or however long ago it is. It’s maybe longer ago than that now, 18? I don’t know.

 

But yeah, you know, on the idea of us being the bad guys, I’m going to sound like a broken record, obviously I’ve appeared on a couple of streams on your channel before Laura. I’m mindful that you’ve got a much larger and sort of broader, you know, ideologically broader audience than I usually speak to on The Absolute State Of Britain. [15:07] But we’ll have some regular listeners, listening. And they’ll be familiar with me saying like the same things every week. But it bears repeating, this only makes sense if you understand, and again I say this mindful of the fact that you’ve got some people who are basically nationalist in their instinct, but don’t fully understand maybe all the issues yet, and they’re getting there. As are a lot of the people that sort of come to our podcast and they, you know, things start sort of falling into place, if I’m not giving us too much credit.

 

But all of this only makes sense, the idea that people that want to preserve, the people that want to defend their own collective interests, and just basically want to be left alone, and want to have a normal functional society which is going to be largely homogenous. And to the extent that it’s not homogeneous it’s going to be understood that the indigenous group are the politically, and culturally, and institutionally, dominant group, no questions asked. And that is preserved, and that is respected, doesn’t need to be any animosity in with that. It’s just something that’s understood.

 

Same as if you’re a guest in somebody’s house. You might very well feel at home, however, you don’t get to start saying what color they paint the bathroom. Now that’s a crude analogy. However, I think it probably makes sense to people. But none of this makes sense again without understanding that we are under the occupation of — we’re about to be hostages, at this point, really — of (((people))) who bitterly resent us, they have a historic sense of vengeance against us! They’ve got a pathological sadism, and vindictiveness! And they wish to dispossess us, to humiliate us, and ultimately, … Yeah, they want to blend us out!

 

You know, they control media, they’ve subverted the institutions, they’ve subverted all the apparatus of power. And they had to do it that way. And to be able to do what they’re doing, they’ve had to cultivate, and a lot of work has gone into this, they had to cultivate a false consciousness, and a false sort of morality and moral code, within the collective consciousness of our people, through sort of making being territorial and defensive of your own people, sort of presenting it as low status, and like unintelligent, and boorish. And many other things obviously.

 

The harder deterrences as well, of penalizing speech law and what have you. And efforts to sort of break up any of our efforts to organize, historically. That they had to do all of that, at great effort, through controlling media, and entertainment, and academia, and the education system.

 

 

They had to sort of cultivate this false consciousness, and this false morality, through indoctrinating people through all those means. Which has engendered this sense of guilt, and timidity, among White people for standing up for their own interests and saying:

 

“Well, this isn’t very good for us!”

 

However, reasonably. So, you know, they have to invert reality. And basically they have to pathologize, and they have, all that is normal and that is healthy and is self-preserving. If they couldn’t do that, they wouldn’t be able to do any of this.

 

And the problem they’re coming up against is, you’re never going to be totally, you’re never going to be able to totally stamp that out. There’s always going to be some people who’ve got enough about them to say:

 

“No!”

 

Essentially. And the problem they’ve got is that’s happening more and more, because it’s getting worse for people as the demographics get worse, as the propaganda gets worse.

 

You’ve only got a look at the past couple of months. You’ve only got to look at what Hope Not Hate said themselves in their report, or what the Independent said in their analysis of it, where they said like, you know, “Black Lives Matter” and things like that, they’re making the Right more racially conscious. They said:

 

“Oh they’re making them more racist!”

 

No! They’re making us more racially conscious, and they’re increasing our numbers. And I can tell you this from our listeners that people come to us. And from anecdotes from our listeners, and my own personal life.

 

Image: Black Lives Lies Matter

 

Yeah, things like the “Black Lives Matter” riots and the propaganda and everything else. Yeah, it can only go one way. This is an inevitable consequence of what they want to do. And they are sort of talking about it like, you know:

 

“How did this happen? It seems as though it’s radicalized people! It seems as though it’s polarized opinion! And it seems as though it’s cultivating a greater sense of racial consciousness, and racial awareness among White people.”

 

Well, what do you expect? You know, you cannot do what you’re doing without people pushing back and without people thinking:

 

“Well, I keep getting attacked for being White! I keep being brow beaten for it on the television, and on the internet, and in the media, and I keep seeing these riots and people pulling down statues and burning our flag.”

 

Well, yeah, it’s gonna wake people up. So it can only go one way. Yeah.

 

Laura: It’s interesting that they say that we’re the ones reviving “race supremacy”. I mean, obviously “supremacy” is not the right word to use. But racial politics. Yes. Absolutely! We do advocate for racial politics, because we recognize that race is real, and we want a homeland for our own ethnic group.

 

Image: Black Lives Lies Matter

 

But I don’t think it’s us that’s reviving it. I think the reason why the majority of people are noticing race now is because of all the other races, especially the BLM riots. Even people like my sister, who’s not into politics at all. The riots woke her up. And she’s been texting me about all sorts of stuff saying:

 

“What does ‘MSM’ mean? What does ‘mainstream media’ mean and what’s ‘virtue signaling’ Laura?”

 

And she’s now interested in politics, because the people have been pulling down statues in London, and stuff.

 

But Horus, if I can come to you, because I know you’ve been following all of this on Twitter as well. Do you think that they’re panicking? Do you think that Hope Not Hate are panicking? Because they do this thing where they kind of try and play down how serious of a threat we are. But then at the same time they’ll be like:

 

“Oh but they’re going to unite the fascist Right, and we need to keep an eye on them, because they’re dangerous!”

 

Do you think they see us as a threat? Do you think it’s like a coping mechanism that they pretend that we’re not? What are your thoughts on that?

 

[20:26]

 

Horus: I think they definitely see us as a threat. And they are right to some extent. But yeah, my impression is that they’re in disarray, because obviously we had Indigenous, … Well, White Lives Matter Day, what was it about a week before this report came out? Maybe even less than a week. And the media, I think, they have like coordinated Whatsap, or Slack groups where, you know, they’re saying:

 

“No. Let’s all agree not to report on this.”

 

And The Star broke from that for a moment, and then withdrew their story. Yeah, within a couple of hours, wasn’t it?

 

And I think the media did their job that day, but they and the political class, and the sort of range of organizations like Hope Not Hate, are not fully coordinated across all of them. I’d say all these people sort of constitute the ruling class. But it is not a thing that can easily be managed although all in one, you know, all to one purpose.

 

My impression is that people like Hope Not Hate, yeah they’re what’s the word? Sort of flailing around a bit, somewhat disorderly. I mean, yeah, so that they coordinated non-reporting of White Lives Matter, and all the amazing banners that people did. Hundreds and hundreds of them in the end, right?

 

But then a few days later Hope Not Hate putting out this Report, which to me, looks like publicity! I mean, accidentally on their part. But it, you know, those pictures are amazing! They look brilliant! [chuckling] And they’re sending that out to people. And they’re saying:

 

“You need to hate this!”

 

Right? Because. I mean, let’s not be, you know, I don’t need to point this out to you. But let’s not be confused by their name. Hope Not Hate is a hate organization! That’s what it exists for, right?

 

But yeah, my impression is they don’t really know what they’re doing. And they don’t have any clear idea of what to do with this. I mean, they’re used to having the State on their side. And the State and the Government are on their side, but the government doesn’t know exactly what it’s doing either.

 

 

I mean, this thing, maybe I’m straying from the point a little bit. But this thing in Calais, I mean, I believe the Tories want to make us a minority. They want as much immigration as possible to finish us off, as soon as possible. That’s roughly how they see it. I’m sure they’re not united on that, but the leadership of the party, I think that’s what they want.

 

But this stuff in Calais even though it’s small numbers right so it’s not actually benefiting that aim very much. It’s still happening, right? And it’s terrible for the Tory’s reputation! It’s really making them look bad! So my impression is that the whole ruling class is struggling to sort of hold itself together. And this, you know, seeing basically missteps like this, is a sign of that. I mean, the subtitle of the report was “Uniting the Far Right”, or whatever, and a question mark. I mean, ..

 

Ayatollah: That’s right, yeah.

 

Horus: I get the impression, in a way, they sort of fancy us, you know what I mean? [chuckling] Like they want, well actually, they kind of admire us. They kind of want to be us, in a way, because, you know,

 

Laura: Well they always used to use that photo with Mark, where he was like, … What were you doing Mark? Like in the forest on your bike, or something?

 

Mark: Yeah on my mountain bike. They used to love the one of me.

 

Ayatollah: An action shot, yeah! Like mud on his face!

 

Mark: That was a perfect, fantastic day.

 

Horus: And yeah, I mean, it really seemed like [words unclear] the gentile ones involved anyway. And of the others we’re talking about people who have such a strange psychology anyway. And just my impression is they, even among themselves, you know, even if they have a meeting that all the, however many people are, the same a dozen people work for Hope Not Hate, whatever. When they have a meeting, I bet their meetings are all over the place. And they don’t really have a point. They don’t really come to any conclusion, because they don’t know what to do!

 

All they’ve really know is how to use their sort of terror and intimidation tactics, which are just working less, and less.

 

And the last thing I’ll say is that another sign of this is you look under their tweets and it’s pretty much unified rejection of what they’re doing! Nobody likes them! You don’t even see a bunch of their supporters trying to combat us, it’s just rejection! It’s just people not even, you know, not even people who are wide awake, red pill nationalists. Just everyone who’s heard of Hope Not Hate, hates them!

 

Ayatollah: Telling them to get on their bike, basically.

 

Horus: Yeah, I think they’re flailing around! They still have some effect they still have the power to really cause some people some problems, but as a movement they don’t know how to deal with this. And I think it’s very encouraging.

 

[25:01]

 

Ayatollah: I had a quick scan, if I can make a quick point, I had a quick scan some months back through Hope Not Hate’s YouTube channel, right? [chuckling] And I can tell you now over a period of like nine years of it, they had like three, or four, videos that have had more views than a weekly TASOB podcast gets. Now we’ve not got a massive audience, right?

 

And the best part was almost every video, if I can recall correctly, or a lot of them, had the likes and dislikes disabled. And obviously the comments disabled. But of the ones that didn’t have the like to dislike ratio disabled the best ratio I saw was four dislikes to one like! So look, that doesn’t accord as any power. But it does tell you, as if any of us needed it, the extent to which these people are astro turf stooges.

 

And I mean, it goes back again to the sort of, I mean, this isn’t just true of Hope Not Hate, it’s true of the sort of the anti-White Left in general. It’s a bit of an old meme now, but it still rings true, the bio-Leninism thing. The idea of like a hostile elite weaponizing the absolute, you know, the dysfunctional dregs of a society, and according them power as a sort of, in various ways, to terrorize the functional middle, or to sort of even in some cases to sort of police them to act as like moral arbiters and moral police. They give them a little bit of power to act. It’s like sort of a supervisory class.

 

And these people are a lot of them, you know, they’ve either got hostile ethnic interests — I’ll let you read between the lines as to what I mean, on that because there are very powerless, very oppressed people, who’ve got, very powerless, disenfranchised lobbying societies, that will come after Laura’s YouTube channel if I speak a little bit too freely! As powerless and as oppressed as they are, that might happen, by a sheer fluke!

 

See: Patriotic Weekly Review – with Edward Dutton

 

But a lot of these people are freaks. They’re just dysgenic freaks who wield, you know, they’re Dutton’s spiteful mutants! Yeah! But, you know, they wield the power. The little power they’re given by the occupiers, incredibly vindictively. And I mean, sadistically! Because they resent the functionality and just the normality, and the wholesomeness, of the people they wield it against. Because they understand that they’ve only got that power, because we’re not in a normal situation.

 

They understand that the normal functional people are disempowered, they want to punish them, and they understand that if those normal functional people were, as ought to be the case, the people that had the cultural and institutional power, these people would be not vindictively, but just sort of quietly shunned and not really given any say in society. That’s basically it.

 

Laura: Do you do a Dutton impression, too?

 

Ayatollah: Yeah, well actually I can actually do a passable impression of all three of the former panelists of the expansive group channel, in three seconds, just by saying “yes” in their respective voices.

 

So it’d be sort of like, you know, obviously you’ve got Dr Dutton, you’ve got Spencer, then you’ve got Keith Woods. So it’d be something like “yaah”, “yeaar”, “heheyair”.

 

Horus: [laughing] Dutton’s a little bit more posh, though. I think you need to posh it up.

 

Ayatollah: Yeah I’m being lazy mate, yeah.

 

Horus: I would just say one more thing. Like, anyone who wants to know more about Hope Not Hate, just look into their funding as well, because it comes from just billionaires and mega millionaires, and stuff.

 

See: Against Brian and Avi

 

And I did a video last year called “Against Brian Avi”, which is on my BitChute channel. It tells you some more about them. Or just go on their website. That’s what I did. So, I think it says a lot about them.

 

Laura: Yeah did, you know, they actually blocked Patriotic Alternative on Twitter? Hope Not Hate did, because.

 

Ayatollah: Yeah. I saw that.

 

Laura: And they said something like:

 

“We’re not sorry! And we’re not gonna change our view, so keep it coming.”

 

And they got a big pile on from our followers. And they ended up blocking us on Twitter. Which was pretty funny!

 

Horus: They fancy PA, and they’re trying to “negative” you., you know what I mean? They’re trying to like act like they hate you, but actually they really fancy PA! Because PA is kind of like really good looking as well. It’s got a lovely logo and everything. But it’s not like the old days. Like old times fascism where the design wasn’t that good.

 

White Lives Matter” Banner Day — Sun, Aug 9, 2020

 

Dionne Moller – My Patriotic Alternative Conference Speech — Spring 2020 — Transcript

 

Audience: Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike! Mike!

 

Mike: All right! So after that video I’m sure you’re all pretty pissed off! I’m sure everybody’s feeling it in their heart the way I am seeing the humiliation, the degradation, the humiliation, the violence, the attacks, are not just White people, but everything we stand for, and every moral value that we hold [are] under attack, right now! This is a unprecedented political emergency that is going on in the United States today! And not just America. Europe and the world.

 

The White race is under attack and it’s unambiguous! It’s not hidden! They tell us every day! Every single day, elite plutocrats, media figures — we know who runs the media. Every one of them, Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL is out there telling you who he wants suppressed, what he wants suppressed, whose statue he wants coming down! And we all know who it is that’s under attack, and it’s us! It’s us! [loud applause].

 

So what are we going to do about it? We have to answer this! It cannot go unanswered! We are here with a response.

 

So what we are here for tonight? We are announcing the formation of a new political party! [very loud applause and cheering] A new political vehicle! That is going to fight for you! For White rights for our people in America and the world! [very loud applause].

 

So we are told every day by pundits, by intellectuals, by people on TV, people in universities, we’re told every day:

 

“Our nation is about ideas! It’s about ideas, concepts, freedom, equality, and liberty.”

 

No! A nation is its people!

 

Audience: Yes! [very loud applause]

 

Mike: A nation is built by its people. You cannot have those moral, philosophical foundations, without the people who spawned those ideas in the first place. And the ideas of freedom, liberty, justice, those come out of the European intellectual tradition, the European philosophical tradition, the White philosophical tradition! Those are our ideas! Our concepts! Our nations are built on!

 

Do you think that there are any other nations built on those concepts anywhere in the world? That is our heritage! Our legacy! You cannot have a nation of rights, a nation of justice, a nation of liberty, without a White majority, forever! [very loud cheering].

 

Yet today, our country, our country, founded by White men with the intention of protecting the sovereign rights of the people, refuses to protect our rights! Specifically refuses to protect our rights on racial grounds! Meanwhile, the rights of anarchists, of criminals, and of wealthy plutocrats, are totally protected! Yet where are we? We have no protection!

 

How many times have we seen the familiar scene a “Black Lives Matter” riot is going on, anarchists are flooding the streets, buildings are burning, statues are toppling, and an unfortunate motorists makes a wrong turn.

 

What happens next? We’ve all seen it. There’s an altercation, anarchists attack the car, maybe somebody gets a bump on the head. Maybe they get a bruise on the knee. They get a hangnail. What now?

 

“That driver he’s a terrorist! White supremacist terrorist! Lock him up! Lock him up!”

 

Fuck that! Excuse me. [loud cheering and strong reaction] Those men are innocent! Innocent people! Innocent people are getting framed, and called terrorists, merely for driving in — as is their right to drive on a public street — for driving in and noticing that:

 

“Wow! Okay the government has now allowed these streets to be taken over by black and anarchist rioters. And they apparently just have the right to ambush, and attack innocent pedestrians and motorists! That’s just their right now! They’re just given that! The government’s just decided, we’re just going to give that to them!”

 

Audience: No! No!

 

Mike: No! Is that just? Is the right? Is that justice? No! [with crowd]

 

Audience: James Fields!

 

Mike: James Fields, exactly was the template for this! A young man —unless we win — this man will spend the rest of his life in jail! Are we going to let that happen?

Audience: No! No!

 

Mike: No! Absolutely not! So how did we get to this point?

 

Barack Obama was elected 2008. A lot of Leftists had a lot of hope in this:

 

“Hope and change! Hope and change! We’re going to have fair economic policy. We’re going to have a peaceful Middle East!”

 

Did any of that happen?

 

Audience: No!

 

Mike: No! What happened? Too big to fail banks got TARP bailouts. Billions of, trillions of dollars! Trillions of dollars in bailouts! The assassination program, the drone program, ISIS. And after the creation of ISIS — as we know sponsored by Tel Aviv — ISIS created, what happened? Bombings! The Bataclan! Other terrorist bombings! Massacres! The Christmas truck attack! The truck attack in Nice! This is the result of the Obama foreign policy in Europe.

 

Hundreds of Europeans dead in brutal terrorist attacks! That was directly, because of Obama’s foreign policy. Despite all of his claims about being peaceful, he wins a Nobel Peace Prize. And this is what we get!

 

On top of that, every corporation and bank, gets bigger and more powerful, as our people are losing jobs, getting addicted to opiates, increasing White death from hopelessness and despair! All of this as the most fair, and just, and hopeful, President in the generation comes along.

 

So what happens in 2016? It’s time for Donald Trump. Now, just like a lot of you in this room, I was pro-Trump, at first. He promised us a lot. He seemed to break every rule:

 

“We’re going to build a wall! We’re going to deport illegals! We’re gonna bring back jobs from China, and elsewhere! We’re gonna get out of the Middle East! We’re gonna stop with the needless wars in the Middle East! No war on Syria!”

 

And all such things like that. What’s the reality of the Donald Trump presidency?

 

Audience: Lies! Lies!

 

Mike: We have the most jewish President in American history! By their own statements! The Golan Heights are now the Dolan Heights, the Donald Trump Heights! We have gotten more involved in the Middle East. Two bombings of the sovereign nation, Syria, that we are not at war with. The repudiation of a peace treaty with a sovereign nation, Iran. And other provocations meant to lead to a war in the Middle East. That’s the intention of this.

 

On top of that, what happened to the anti-immigration platform? What happened to the deportation of illegal immigrants? Well figures like Jeff Sessions, Kris Kobach, not only are they frozen out, they’ve been insulted and humiliated by the White House. They have no room for anybody like that in the GOP of today.

 

Nobody even wants to talk about immigration. They’re now talking about increasing H1B workers! What happens with that? Well, White men that work in a high-tech industry, train their replacements, and then, guess what happens next week?:

 

“Well I’m sorry, we don’t need you anymore. Please pack your things. By the way, we have a security guard that escort you out of the building.”

 

Audience: [loud booing] No!

 

Mike: Is that fair? Is that fair! Is that what we want?

 

Audience: [loud booing] No!

 

Mike: Trump was there to take care of the demographic problem, and instead it’s only escalated! It’s only escalated. We have Amazon.com, a virtual monopoly over the retail space, paying zero taxes. And Jeff Bezos, the CEO, owns the Washington Post. An ostensible enemy of Donald Trump. Yet he still won’t do anything to retaliate against him! Proving once and for all, this idea that his hands are tied, or he can’t do this, or that, it’s all fake! It’s all an act! He doesn’t want to do anything for us!

 

If he did, he could! And he doesn’t want to, because he’s in the pocket of Jared Kushner, and zionist jews!

 

Audience: Yeah! [loud booing and applause]

 

Mike: Political censorship! Political censorship, is out of control in America! And they don’t want to do with the government:

 

“Oh we got the first amendment. So we can’t intervene in this! But corporations, huge, massive public corporations, they have the same right to free speech as the rest of us!”

 

That’s a garbage concept! What really happens is that an unelected jewish lobby group, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, sets the agenda, for what, 300 million, non-jewish, Americans, can and cannot say! And every corporation falls in line, either, because they are just right in line with the ADL’s agenda, or they are too afraid to go against them, because they’ve bought every politician, they’ve bought every company! They have somebody on the board of every company!

 

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Either that, or maybe they’ve got something else on some of these people. I don’t think I need to go further in elaborating what that might be! After the Jeffrey Epstein and the Ghislaine Maxwell scandal, we have to wonder, how many people in public life do these people have a file on? How many of them do they have a file on! How many! [loud jeering].

 

That is what we have, it’s not an exaggeration. We’ve had Pizzagate! We’ve had things like this, but in the end these kinds of ideas are getting at some kind of a truth. The elite are hopelessly corrupt! They’re in the pocket of a corrupt cabal! And they have no ability to represent us, or any desire to represent us, because as soon as they try:

 

“Ah, that folder that we’ve got on you!”

 

That gets opened up:

 

“And boy, we don’t want to even see what’s inside that!”

 

So, as you can guess, you’ll probably notice the date of this speech is not accidental. The anniversary of Charlottesville was just a couple of days ago. And I want to talk about that for a second.

 

Now Charlottesville was, in fact, one of the most important political events of the last several years, if not the last several decades. [very loud, long, applause and cheering]

 

Charlottesville was important, because it laid bare every issue that we are dealing with now! We foresaw it. We saw what was coming. We tried to warn America. We raised the red flag — or maybe some other flags. [loud laughter]

 

But we told America what was going to happen. And, in fact, it’s come true. Three years later the same groups, the same groups that some of us in this room had to face off against, are now running the streets! Terrorizing Americans, burning things down, vandalizing statues, vandalizing our heritage, and attacking people, and killing people, indeed.

 

It’s important, because, until that day it was unprecedented how many men came out for this cause, for the cause of White people, White Americans, and in fact, White people around the world. The elite was not expecting that. That is why they have not been able to give it up. It’s why we see media narratives that are just insanely malicious, and deceptive, promoted day after day, year after year!:

 

“The deadly Charlottesville rally! All the people are down under siege! My god is so terrible!”

 

Bullshit! Bullshit!

 

We went down there as American White men, to exercise our god-given, and constitutional right, to speak on our own behalf! [loud applause and cheering] And we were attacked! We were attacked by the same people that are burning America today! It was about the Robert E Lee statue, but that’s not all it was about, …