Mark Collett: And welcome to Patriotic Weekly Review. It’s that time of the week again and we’re here for episode number 370! Can you believe we’re closing in on 400 episodes? I can’t! Time flies when you’re having fun and we’ve certainly had some fun over the years, but it’s been a long road. And we’ve still got a lot more distance to cover. And we’ve got some big things to discuss tonight. I’ve got an amazing guest here tonight and we’re gonna basically set the world to rights and discuss what the changing political dynamic in Britain is going to yield for the nationalist cause.

 

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Secondly, I’ve got a lot of things coming up this week.

 

Firstly, I published a very long article, the longest I’ve written to date, six and a half thousand words called Why the Conservatives are Worse than Labour and Why They Must be Destroyed. This article is now up on my Substack. It’s free for everyone to read and it’s a historical piece that works up to the modern day here and now. And it discusses how it’s not the far-Left, it’s not the Labour Party, it’s not the Left at all that’s destroyed every single nationalist or anti-immigration movement this country’s had to offer. It’s actually the Conservative Party. They did it in 79, they did it in 2010, they did it in 2017, they did in 2019. It’s always the Conservative party!

 

David Clews: Can I just jump in there very quickly? Do you know what makes me think about. Tony Blair was basically a conservative as well in 97. In many ways that was what his famous thing was. So as you say, it’s all been conservative or conservative like policies that’s led to this. A hardcore Left-winger wouldn’t have opened the borders the way Blair did. So no, you’re 100% right.

 

Mark Collett: Well, this article is very important. It’s free for you to read on my Substack. It’s six and a half thousand words long, too long for many, I’m told! If you are one of those people who likes the deep dive, please, please go and give it a read. The links are for my Substack, are in the description. They’re also the pinned comment in the chat. And you can support me on Substack financially.

 

Secondly, I did a show with Patrick Slattery on Monday. I’m gonna do a show with David Duke tomorrow. I’ll be live on Friday, and on Sunday the Film Club returns. It was meant to be on Sunday but it was Father’s Day. But it returns for the review of the new Uwe Boll film which deals with the issue of a Right-wing vigilante dealing rather decisively with migrant rape gangs.

 

So you’re going to want to watch that. And we’ve got a very special guest. I’m not going to tell you who it is, but when you see, you will be shocked!

 

Anyway, that’s something for Sunday. So I’ve got loads of things coming up this week and I’ll also have another Substack out on Friday. At the moment I am writing up the harrowing case of the murder and sexual abuse of Preston Davy and how it was essentially given the green light by the system because Preston’s adopted parents were obviously a homosexual couple.

 

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Anyway, let’s get into the show. We’ve got David Clews with me tonight. And we’ve got David Clews with me for a reason. Not only is he a good friend of mine, not only does he have really good takes but he’s a guy who’s called things right. He’s one of the few people who stuck his neck out on the line and said the unpopular thing, made the unpopular takes and stuck with that and recently he’s been proved correct. He’s got an excellent channel and news network called the Unity News Network. They are now on Rumble as well. Please support him there. Please follow him. Please sub him. He deserves it. I was lucky enough to be on his show. Was it last night?

 

David Clews: Monday.

 

Mark Collett: Monday night and we had an excellent show. It’s very good. Very very hard hitting about the situation in Makerfield.

 

But David, how have you been my friend? Are you surviving this heat wave? My shirt is already stuck to me. I actually do feel relatively uncomfortable and people are lucky that they’ve got the camera feed tonight because I was thinking about basically doing this in my underwear with the camera off. It is oppressively hot! Are you surviving where you are?

 

[05:51]

 

David Clews: Yes. No. Absolutely fine! It’s not too terrible. So I had the milk in the freezer and the glass in the freezer, as. Well, that’s one thing always say about Spain is they really know how, … I’m not in Spain of course, but they know how to chill a drink. And if there’s one thing I don’t like it’s an unchilled drink. So I had my glass was being in the freezer. I had my milk in the freezer as well. So it’s cold and it is hitting well.

 

So yeah, all good, all good. And it was interesting you said this is show number 370. And I always liked a wee bit of gematria and I looked up and a famous 370. The number 370 is most famously associated with the Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 that went missing. And there is still no proper explanation of where it went. So there’s number 370. I hope Patriotic Weekly Review doesn’t go the way of that flight! [chuckling] But it’s an interesting one. You know I haven’t actually done a deep dive on. I’m sure many of my conspiratorial friends will have some theories on that but I mean it’s just incredible to think that an airline all those years ago just went missing and still nobody knows what happened.

 

Mark Collett: No, no. Do you know what? I was very interested in the case at the time. Did they ever find the aeroplane?

 

David Clews: Never! They’ve never found it and they’ve never given a proper explanation of what happened. 12 years.

 

Mark Collett: The problem is, and I am conspiratorially minded, but I’m also aware of how vast the Pacific Ocean [Indian Ocean] is. And I think where it crashed, wasn’t it in that sort of dead zone where effectively almost as far from land as you can be.

 

So there’s a apparently there’s a buoy in the Pacific Ocean. And if you end up coming, so if you’re in a plane and you crash and you’re like:

 

“Thank goodness there’s a buoy in the ocean. I’m going to hold on to it!”

 

That would actually be the worst thing ever because you would have crashed at the point where you are geographically further from any land as you would be anywhere else, you know, within the ocean.

 

You know, I think at that point you’re basically screwed!

 

But, yeah, when you’re over those kind of depths of ocean and that kind of sort of its almost like an oceanic wilderness, isn’t it? I wonder how it went down.

 

David Clews: As I said, there is literally no conclusive theory. It’s funny, a few people in the chat are saying it was full of highly skilled semiconductors scientists who were Chinese.

 

I mean, when you hear stuff like that, I mean, again, they could have just been there purely by accident and they were going to go work somewhere. But to lose an airline is really incredible! And as I said, there’s still no answer or anything definitive as to where it went. I remember watching a programme about it and it was like they said:

 

“Maybe the pilot. It was an elaborate suicide attempt.”

 

That was the kind of one they were going with, but just absolutely crazy! And one of these unexplained mysteries that I’m sure there’s a lot more to it than meets the eye.

 

Mark Collett: I do find these things really interesting. Somebody saying it’s wasn’t actually in the Pacific, apparently it was in the Indian Ocean.

 

So I don’t know. I thought it was over the Pacific. But very interesting what happened there. And it’s something that it captivated me at the time. I find things like this phenomenally interesting. But I also find it really odd that planes like that don’t have some kind of transponder.

 

[10:03]

 

David Clews: They do. It went missing or something turned off. I don’t know. I think that’s the whole point. It was, you shouldn’t be able to turn that off. It emanates like a signal that should be on at all times. A really odd one.

 

Mark Collett: Do you think they’ll ever find it? Because sometimes these things happen and there are sort of obviously conspiracy theories etc, but then years later somebody just stumbles upon something or comes up with a theory and checks something and it all sort of works out.

 

David Clews: There was, there was another one. I don’t know if you want. I do like my slop. See, because we watch, we deal with such high value things. There was one called the Disappearance of Amy Bradley. Have you seen that one at all or heard about that?

 

So this was this girl who was on a cruise ship with her family. It just disappeared, just disappeared off the face of the earth. Initially they thought that she’d fallen off the side, but then there was all these sightings of her. People say they saw her, that she was sold into sex slavery.

 

And again, just same as the McCanns, same as Madeleine McCann!

 

I mean, look, clearly there’s a lot of theories on Madeleine McCann, but there is still no like even official response to what happened. Just another mystery. The Amy Bradley one’s very good. It’s very good if you can watch that.

 

Mark Collett: I’ll look into that. I mean, one thing that gets me though, with some of these sightings, you wonder how mentally ill some people are today because there was a girl who claimed that she was Madeline McCann. And it turned out she was just a pure fantasist who had made it all up, very interesting.

 

But look, let’s get on to the issue of the day. I can tell that people will get, people will, chat annoyed that we’re not immediately talking about Andy Burnham. That’s the issue!

 

David Clews: It always reminds me, that situation of in the film the Wolf of Wall Street, when he goes to meet with the Swiss banker.

 

Mark Collett: I’ve not seen it.

 

David Clews: It’s quite a good film, very jewish. But he goes to meet the Swiss banker and the Swiss banker’s doing the chit chat and he’s like:

 

“Look, I don’t really want to do this, I just want to cut to the chase.”

 

And he’s like:

 

“Excuse me, you’re in Switzerland, you’re in Europe. We do chit chat for a minimum of 30 minutes before we get down to business.”

 

It is a very British thing as well, isn’t it? The obligatory chit chat.

 

Mark Collett: I’ve always thought about doing shows with certain guests. It wouldn’t work with all guests, but with certain guests where you just said:

 

“Right. Two hours of easy chat, Superchats when they’re relevant.”

 

So if somebody gives a relevant Superchat we interject with it. But some guests would be really good at that. You’re good at that. Devon Stack is very good at that. He’s very good at chatting. Very entertaining. And it is interesting when things, …

 

And I’m somebody who does like sort of murder mysteries. I do like real life crimes. So flight, you know, MH370 was something that did at the time really capture my imagination. But I suppose we may never know or the scary thing is somebody does know because it was planned and we’ll never know. But that’s another thing.

 

The one thing that, the one thing that is interesting do you know another thing that’s interesting, right? One thing that I find really incredible is the amount of dead people on Mount Everest. So all these people who aren’t really qualified to climb Mount Everest go up there, they die, their bodies freeze, never decompose.

 

And apparently the amount of people that now climb Mount Everest is sort of a recreational thing to say they’ve done it. Basically what you end up with is people walking up the mountain and some of the more famous dead bodies are now landmarks.

 

So they’re like what you turn specifically one called Green Boots, who’s a guy that died in these bright, luminous green boots. And people are:

 

“You turn right by Green Boots!”

 

So that’s how people know when they’re almost you almost at the Summit, turn right by Green Boots and it’s like:

 

“Wow!”

 

And apparently it’s also a place where people dump all their rubbish on the way up and on the way down to lighten their load. And it’s one of the most polluted places on the planet because obviously it never degrades, it never breaks down, the bodies never break down. And it’s covered in dead bodies and garbage! Which I find is pretty depressing actually, that this sort of amazing landmark, highest place on the planet and you go up there and it’s just covered in litter and corpses!

 

David Clews: Sounds a bit like [chuckling] sort of India and the subcontinent, doesn’t it! It’s kind of everywhere!

 

Mark Collett: In Glasgow. It’s just rubbish!

 

[14:51]

 

David Clews: That’s what it’s like. It’s funny. Today I watched a video of like India.

 

So for the next two hours my feed is just all videos of how awful India is. And you know when you see that and you see these countries, it’s just so horrific beyond words. I think people, they don’t understand what these countries are like. I’ve never been, but clearly it’s not like these are isolated videos. It shows you India, how dirty it is, the oppressed conditions, people that live in. It’s utterly awful!

 

I mean, I’ve been to Cairo and that’s the most awful place I’ve ever seen in my life! The poverty, the grindingness of it, the dirt on the roads! You know, I did a bit of traveling as well in Bulgaria. And for a European country, it’s dirt poor.

 

And it’s funny the gypsies who are Indians, it looks like India as well. And it’s just awful! And when you say that about Everest, which is the world’s highest mountain, which is, it’s so amazing and it’s just covered in filth!

 

Rockwell. I’ll do that just now. Actually, I’ve forgotten to do that. I’ll do that just now. Post it on X.

 

Mark Collett: You’ve not posted it on, ..! David!

 

David Clews: I’ve not. I know. I’ve been busy. I’ll do it right now!

 

Mark Collett: Now I’m sweating twice as much. I’ve got the general heat of the day. That’s the first thing I want to say though. David.

 

So everyone says, like, global warming isn’t a thing, but we are all melting. And I do wonder. I don’t think man made global warming is a thing, but I do think things are generally getting warmer. I remember when I was a kid, come Christmas, there would always be snow. I remember being snowed in and having days off from school. And it does seem to be getting more intolerable! Now, I don’t think this is down to man made global warming or any such crap! But I do think it is intolerable!

 

And as a White man, I wasn’t made for this! This isn’t northern European weather. Why do I have to put up with this? You know, I mean, and I can’t even open my window while I’m doing the show because I don’t want everyone in the street hearing me bellowing about these issues, trapped in this box of heat.

 

David Clews: I think the weather does change naturally. Like the Romans used to grow great vineyards in North Africa when they were there. North Africa was as fertile as the rest of the Mediterranean. So clearly the climate does shift and change. And I mean, in the 60s and 70s, the big theory was that we were about to enter a new Ice Age.

 

You know, I remember watching the video of like Leonard Nimoys talking about how we’re going to be freezing. But then they’ve moved to the global warming. I think temperatures probably are rising. Someone will know more than me about why. But the whole man made climate change is a scam! Because what it deliberately says is the more CO2 you’ve released as a nation, the more you’ve contributed to this greenhouse effect. And miraculously it manages to blame Britain and the rest of Europe for that and say:

 

“Well, your historical long term CO2 emissions are much higher than India and China.”

 

And the other thing it doesn’t actually take into account is just the pollution from all these countries. I think it is important for people like us to care for the environment and to look for green solutions. But I think man made climate change is a hoax! And I’m sure most would agree with that.

 

Mark Collett: No, I agree with that. I mean I also, the reason why I agree with it is because I know, I always notice the selective application.

 

So you go to places like China, India, Bangladesh that they’re polluting the world to an incredible degree. Their emissions are off the scale, but they’re never hit with the kind of restrictions that Western European countries are hit with.

 

And I’ve got to say, if there’s one thing that makes me proud of being a Western European is that we generally are very sort of, how can I say, environmentally minded. We do like animals, we do like nature, we do try to look after the world we live in. Whereas I think other races are far more:

 

“Well, if it moves, eat it. If it becomes extinct, so be it. Do what we have to do to survive, advance, take over, grow!”

 

Whereas I think we are more empathetic. And that often comes out in a bad way, but sometimes it comes out in a good way. You know, the amount of people I know that sort of save little animals. I mean I once stood on a snail and cracked its shell and I actually bought a special tank and nursed it back to health! Its shell was completely healed and put it back in the garden! You know, that’s the kind of people we are. But sometimes obviously that backfires, which is obviously one of the things we talk about.

 

But David, onto the issue of the day. Starmer’s gone! Burnham’s in!

 

Now, we both said this will have an incredibly positive effect on the Labour Party. And I think that’s true. I think that’s true, Labour are now bouncing. They’re a united party again. There isn’t the infighting.

 

But one thing that shocked me is not just how it’s reunited Labour, but how it’s also painted them in a better light. And even the Tory press seemed to be giving them a little bit, not total, but a little bit of a pat on the back.

 

[20:41]

 

This does seem to have rejuvenated them. I’m pretty good with my predictions, but I was actually shocked that Burnham took 55% of the vote. And it almost feels, … Sorry for the horrible turn of phrase, but I can’t think of any better way to say this, but as if there’s been a Great Reset, as if there’s been a situation where, because when you have a Prime minister come in with a giant majority like Starmer did, you tend to have a honeymoon period. Thatcher, Blair, both of them had long reigns with sizable honeymoons. For Starmer to come in as a new party taking power from a deeply unpopular party and to have completely fluffed it in just over 18 months is unprecedented! And I kind of feel like this has pushed the reset button and Burnham’s almost being Heralded as the guy that Starmer should have been back in July of 2024. It feels like Labour have effectively had a do over here.

 

David Clews: I think, as we’ve pointed out, and I’ve certainly been saying, it is amazing the way the wider British security state works. I mean, sometimes you just have to look at it, as Agent Smith says, have you ever looked at it and just marveled at it? And what they’ve done with Burnham is incredible! They’ve given him this Coronation, the train coming from Manchester, the crowds cheering him, [chuckling] and he’s now there and then all the MPs are there. And as you say, it’s just given this an entire new lease of life.

 

And the problem that you actually have is that with Burnham, and I’ve been thinking about this today, what’s our angle of attack going to be against them? You know, because he’s not Keir Starmer. He’s not like a robot, he’s not a system pig. He can actually sit and speak to people.

 

And again, people are going to cope about it. He’s very relatable. I’ve watched his stuff. I remember his Hillsborough speech and he came across well. Now he’s a career politician. He’s ZOGged up to his eyeballs. I get all these things, but from a normie’s perspective, he is like A-list material, Andy Burnham. And he doesn’t wear the suit either, he wears the T-shirt. And actually people are going to say:

 

“You two are loving him!”

 

And he actually looks really good for 56. He actually keeps himself in pretty good shape for someone who’s 56. And I mean, that is true. Politics is all about PR and image. And Burnham really has it. And listen what they’ve done, the media, they are roasting Farage.

 

I mean, I’ve been talking about this, I’ve seen that they all have decided they’re going to destroy Farage. And the Right-wing press built him up. The Telegraph, the Daily Mail, the Sun. And now they’re spitting them back out!:

 

“You took five million quid, you said you were a man of the people!”

 

And now all the Right-wing press, they’re basically Burnham is going to be like a Tony Blair figure that is going to unite all the factions in the regime behind them. And it’s ominous!

 

[24:25]

 

Mark Collett: I think it’s ominous. I can see us, … In my article and I’m pushing my Substack heavily, but I’ll tell you why.

 

Firstly, I like writing these long articles and I feel like I’m not bad at it either. I didn’t think I’d enjoy writing them as much as I do. But I like laying everything out in article format because I feel it’s in many ways easier to digest for people and to add notations, etc.

 

But also it’s good because you can go back and alter the article and I’m actually thinking of revising my recent one on demographics because more information has come to light of the last two weeks that actually says that what everything I was saying was correct, basically. And I’m going to add to it with notation saying this is new information. But it furthers my point.

 

But in my long article I published yesterday, I did say that there is a level of what you could call institutional Deep State power that both the Conservatives and Labour have, which is basically, it’s like, and I describe them as an iceberg. What you see above the waterline, the politicians, obscures this massive institutional power network beneath the waterline. And this was the exact analogy that I chose to make during that article. And because they have that vast network beneath the waterline, unless you completely destroy them as a Parliamentary presence, which would then cause the whole thing to crumble, they will always, as long as they maintain at the very least the position of being the opposition, they will always re-form.

 

And that’s what I said in my article. And essentially we’re in a situation here where for a very brief period it looked as if Reform were going to break both sides of that illusory political divide. They were going to completely crush the Tories, they were going to take almost every marginal seat. But on top of that, the White Red Wall, former sort of working class, sort of mining town seats were all, or secondary industry like your manufacturing seats. So Newcastle, Sunderland, Makerfield, these areas were all going to fall to Reform as well. And you’re going to finally see the two party system completely collapse in on itself.

 

But all of a sudden it seems to have resuscitated itself!

 

And one thing that really does amaze me and I’ve got to say this, and it is very critical of White people. But how much can we take? How much can we take? And that’s a genuine question because what have we seen? Unprecedented grooming, two tiered justice, the jailing of Right-wing anti-immigration political dissidents. We’ve seen mass murders on the streets, terrorist atrocities. You know, we’ve had the Manchester bombing, we’ve had Southport, we’ve had the Belfast beheading, we’ve had Valdo Calocane in Nottingham the Nottingham spree killer.

 

It happens again and again and again! And the more people speak out about it, the more we see the state clamp down on us, the more we see this rise of two tier justice. We’ve had fathers arrested for trying to free their daughters from the grooming gangs, and immigration has just carried on unabated to different levels. The demographic shift has always continued, maybe at slightly differing rates. We now around 70% of the population, but by the next general election we will be under 70% for sure. But people are still voting Labour! 55% of their people in Makerfield still voted for Andy Burnham and he’s just received the kind of Coronation that you would expect of an almost like Napoleonic character!

 

Like when Napoleon marched on Paris and every roadblock that was meant to prevent him from getting there sort of not only didn’t stop him, but the people at that roadblock fell at his feet, you know, declared him the Emperor and joined his march on Paris. That’s kind of what you’re seeing with Burnham. They’ve almost played him as a folk hero. You know, this trip down to Manchester, you said it so well on your show with me. The night they actually had helicopter footage of him arriving in Nottingham:

 

“The northern hero arrived to put the shit out of touch Starmer creature to death! And when he’s done this we will be free!”

 

But this was Sky News, this was BBC, this was ITV, this Daily Mail! They all did it!

 

[29:14]

 

David Clews: Here’s the thing that’s really crystallised for me over the last few months. And this is one of the reasons why I’ve been so aggressive against people like pushing Restore, saying that it’s going to solve all our problems or re-migration is going to solve all the problems. I’m not doing it because I’m being nasty. I’m just doing it because I’m being honest with people about the situation. And this was the real statistic that hit home for me. Well, there was actually two recently. The budget every year for the security services in this country, GCHQ, MI5, MI6 is £5 billion per annum. Five billion quid they spend on the security services! Just an incredible sum of money!

 

So that’s what they do. The City of London every single day turns over in currency trading alone, $5 trillion per day! 5 trillion, right! How many people in Britain have a house in the Cotswolds, a flat in London? How many people have a lifestyle where they’re jetting around the world, they’re going to conferences, they’re going to football matches, they’re going to Wimbledon. You just, and I don’t mean this to be nasty to you, but you don’t really have any comprehension of the life these people live. They will spend in a day and not even notice it what you will likely earn in a year. What I will likely earn in a year.

 

Okay, so if you take the Mafia, the people that say they run the coke trade in Britain, the Albanians, they’re prepared to kill and be ruthless in order to maintain their lifestyle. What do you think the people way above them that runs this country are going to do? They’re going to kill! They’re going to jail you and they’re going to use every single trick in the book to keep themselves in that lifestyle! And they’re just not giving up, they’re not going to give up the house in the Cotswolds. Because you know why it’s even more important for them now? Because the country is full of immigrants. [chuckling] They need to live in their White areas. They need to fly first class, they need like HS2 to get them quickly to their country retreats.

 

So you have an elite that is embedded into power and will use every single trick in the book that it has, and none more so than the mainstream media and the power and the might of the mainstream media. Like people always say:

 

“Oh, nobody listens to the news anymore!”

 

Nonsense! Millions and millions and millions of people still listen to the BBC and trust the BBC and Sky News and the Daily Mail and the Guardian and the Telegraph and LBC and talk TV, you know, need to go on?

 

Mark Collett: No, mate, I agree. I think one of the problems is. And bear with me here, guys, because I don’t want to seem like, I don’t want to annoy people. Look, when I say these things and I’m right. I don’t want to annoy people by being right. I’m not doing this to sort of be smug and pour like cold water on everyone’s fire. I’m doing it because I can see what’s going wrong because I’ve been involved in this bloody thing for 26 years! And I can see these things now.

 

Look, when I was initially involved in the BNP, back in the day, when I first got involved in politics, the bubble was what I called the “pub bubble”.

 

And I remember when I was first standing in elections, I would go into pubs and people would be like:

 

“Mark, surely. Oh, mate, I saw you on TV! I’m voting for you. We’re all voting for him, aren’t we, lads? Yeah, everyone down the pubs, right? Oh, we’re all voting for you, mate!”

 

And it was brilliant! You’d walk out of there feeling like:

 

“Yeah, we’re doing this!”

 

Because everyone in the pub was voting for you. Come election day you’d get 20%, you come second, but you weren’t winning. Now the issue is that pub nonsense, that was 20, 30 lads in the pub saying:

 

“We all vote for you!”

 

David Clews: On X now.

 

Mark Collett: No, it was a bubble. But now it’s on X. And it’s not 20, 30, lads. It’s 300, 400, maybe a thousand people building this national bubble that people think is like the real deal:

 

“Look, look, he’s just got 3,000 likes on his X post! Oh, my God, we’re gonna do it! Have you seen 300 retweets? Oh, my God! Look, we’ve ratioed him!”

 

And unfortunately, it’s just a national or even international sort of recreation of the:

 

“All me mates down the pub are voting for you.”

 

You’re winning, and they’re not. Or maybe they are, but maybe that tap room in that smoky pub isn’t representative of everyone in the council ward where you’re standing.

 

And what I’m saying is, fundamentally we’re in a situation, a weird one, where people surround themselves now with people who are like them, have the same feelings, the same opinions, the same desires. And it forms this feedback loop where they absolutely believe that they’re going to win because they’re not exposing themselves to the real world. And X isn’t the real world.

 

Okay, somebody in the chat just put that. Somebody’s put, X is not real life. That’s one of the things with the Restore. They thought it was. And look, David, you said something to me and I didn’t know how big it was. I did a stream the other night and I said:

 

“Look, Restore had a thousand people out in Makerfield, but they mismanaged it.”

 

And David actually got me the figures. Labour had 3,000 out in Makerfield. But the thing is, Labour didn’t arrange them in a park, take pictures, get a load of spergy influencers and auditors to film it all. Have them all wearing gaudy Union Jack outfits and turn it into a circus. They had 3,000 people who were highly trained people, …

 

David Clews: Every day! Every day!

 

[35:29]

 

Mark Collett: And flew it under the radar so the other parties didn’t know what they were up against. And the issue is this. When you see all of this on X and you convince yourself that Restore are gonna have to win because of the thousand people and they can’t lose and you know, all the influencers out there and the auditors are streaming it, you’re meant to think that so that on election day, when you get a poultry 6.8% and less than the BNP did in 2010, you’re heartbroken and demoralised. That’s the point of it! It was all mismanaged.

 

And what you’re seeing here is the reality of a highly powerful system that by design can, … Unless it is run out of those top two positions in Parliament, it will always re-form. And that’s what you’re seeing with Burnham. But worse still, and not many people are covering this:

 

“The Tories are dead, mate! They’re never coming back!”

 

David Clews: No one’s voting for an African. No one’s voting for an African.

 

Mark Collett: They won the Aberdeen South by-election on the same day as Makerfield. And all of a sudden you’re now seeing two by-elections on the same day and two winners. Who are the two winners, David? Labour and the Tories. Not Reform, not Restore, not the Greens! Boom!

 

David Clews: 26.1% swing in Aberdeen South for the Tories. 26.1%

 

Now, clearly there was local issues because Labour and the SNP have decimated the oil and gas industry. But again, who did the public turn to? Who did the public say:

 

“Well, I’m sick of the SNP and Labour. Who am I going to turn to?”

 

Well, funnily enough, there wasn’t a Restore candidate because Restore didn’t stand in Aberdeen South. Therefore, that meant the only option was Reform or the Tories. And what did people in that area say? They’re going to vote Tory! That party led by an African anchor baby!

 

Because here’s the thing, and I keep pointing this out to people, if you’re fucked and you’re out of a job and you’ve got a huge mortgage, you know, house price. Aberdeen’s a really good example. I remember going to Aberdeen, like 2010. There was Ferraris and Porsches everywhere. House prices are down 20 to 30% from the peak. People are really struggling. There was really well paid oil and gas jobs.

 

So these are people who maybe have a wife, kids. Do you think they really give a shit if the woman’s African or not? Is she going to get me back to work in the North Sea? Is she going to get me back so I can feed my kids? And whether people like it or not, they see the Tories, it doesn’t even matter about her. They just know that the Tories are against Net Zero and they want to open it up again. So they’re going to vote Tory. There is not a huge amount of thought going into it!

 

And this again is, we are spergs. We, I sperg, go over everything, but I’m not spergy enough. Let me be clear. I am spergy enough to know that not everybody thinks like that. Most people vote on a reasonably shallow basis as well, and simplify it.

 

And as I say, the number one issue out there right now is the economy is the cost of living! It doesn’t affect over 60s. Primarily people who own their own homes or people who are okay. Anyone under 60, you know this, Mark, you’re a father of two, I’m a father of two. Everyone sees it, like, even people who have money say:

 

“I just went out to the cinema and had a meal and it was 300 quid!”

 

And they’re like:

 

“Anybody affording anything now?”

 

It’s hitting home. And that’s what it’s the economy, stupid! It’s not that Charlie Downs was on the other day and he said:

 

“The number one issue that British people have is demographics!”

 

No, it isn’t that! That is just a straight up lie! The number one problem facing Britain is demographics, but that’s not what voters think. And you know what? The customer is always right! It’s like, hi, the customer comes into Charlie Downs, I’d like to order a margherita pizza. No, I don’t think you should have that. I think you should have a steak and I think you should have this. It’s much better for you. What’s he gonna do? The customer’s gonna get up, he’s gonna walk out and say:

 

“I’m not going to be patronised by you, I’m gonna go somewhere else and they’ll give me what I want!”

 

[39:59]

 

Mark Collett: Look, I agree fundamentally and worse still, and I’ve got to say this, I can hear people saying this. So this is going to be one of my little skits about the way the British people think. It’s not what I think, but I can hear people saying this:

 

“Look, I quite like what Nigel Farage has to say, but I’m a bit scared that my black friend will think I’m a racist if I vote for him. But that Kemi Badenoch, she’s saying the same thing. And if I vote for her, I can tell all my mates down the pub, Big John the black bouncer, what can he say? Cuz she’s black as well! I’m not a racist. And this proves it!”

 

You can hear people rationalizing it in this way. People in the Conservative Party voted her as their leader because they thought it would finally put to bed Left-wing accusations of racism. Because fundamentally people are far more concerned with the feelings of their non-White friend than they are about any notion of saving their own race! And this is the problem that we have.

 

And I’ve got to say this, I’m as sickened by this as I could be! I’m sat here, beads of sweat dripping down my brow. And I can tell you it annoys me more than anything to think that my fellow White Britons are more likely to vote for a black woman who describes herself as a first generation migrant than they are a White man who openly talks about demographics, because they’re so scared of the accusation of racism. It annoys me, it riles me, it sickens me, makes me want to puke my guts up! But the fact is its true! And that’s the sad thing.

 

I mean, you know this as well as I do, David, the Left know that because of the demographic shifts it’s very unlikely that a single anti-immigration party would now be able to get over 50% of the popular vote.

 

David Clews: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: And in fact no party post Second World War has ever got over 50% of the popular vote.

 

So if you know, one party was to take now 50% of the White British vote, that would firstly be unprecedented, it would be an all time high.

 

But secondly it would only result in 35% of the vote share because what we’ve been reduced to, we’re in a bad place now! And part of it is this suicidal empathy, this cycle of self hate and shame that Whites are caught up in!

 

David Clews: But there are positives from it. And I know this is going to be a bitter pill to swallow. This is the other thing and I’ve really come to this. We can’t hitch our bandwagon to talk TV, GB News, the Sun, etc. Because they are taking us up a dead end.

 

The reality is, with the growth of like extreme Leftism, there actually comes opportunities for us. And the one I’m going to give you is Mamdani in New York. Now clearly I don’t like Zoran Mamdani, I don’t like his politics.

 

However, he is anti-zionist! He’s not anti-jewish, but he’s anti-zionist. He calls out big business and wealth inequality. And you know what? He got all his three candidates in the elections to be the candidates through. And that is a huge winning formula. And [Nick] Fuentes, I listen to Fuente’s speech and again I know there’s a lot of problems with Fuentes, but he made a brilliant point. He sees a Left-wing populist coalition emerging in America because people just want to stick it to the man, they’re sick of it! They’re sick of seeing these billionaires, they’re sick of seeing the fact that they’re struggling.

 

I mean I read a thing Warren Balogh posted that millions and millions of Americans have now lost their SNAP payments. SNAP is a system that gives you money towards food vouchers. And it’s particularly White Americans that have lost their SNAP programs. So there’s millions of Americans out there who are White have lost their programme that helped them pay towards their bills while they’re struggling. And that’s gone. And this is where there really is this cataclysm coming because from a demographic and an open borders thing, the worst thing that could happen is these people come in.

 

But on the other hand it’s a good thing because they’re challenging international capital, international finance. Because the fundamental is, if you look at our perhaps politics as a mixture of elements of nationalism, elements of socialism. Did I say it? It is a Third Position. And you recognise that without a system that cares for its people and looks after its people, they’re going to be led like lambs to the slaughter.

 

And I just wonder with a lot of people when it comes to voting, they’ll be like:

 

“Look, I know the country’s fucked! I know there’s darkies everywhere, but you know what? See if I can have a few Bob in my pocket, at least I can jump on that plane. I can get on the cheap, I can get to Luton and get over to Benidorm, or I can go and I can still live my life.”

 

And I think that is the other problem is, especially with re-migration and putting the country first. People are selfish and narcissistic. As you pointed out. It’s horrible, but it isn’t really their fault. That’s the system. They’ve been told to be selfish, narcissistic, to look after themselves first! That’s a tough sell to them, that they’re going to get poorer, but the country’s going to be better,

 

[46:08]

 

Mark Collett: I think as well. Like you just said, there is this issue, isn’t there, that fundamentally people are also selfish. They’re cowardly, they’re selfish and when it comes down to it, they gravitate back to what they know. They want stability, they don’t want to rock the boat. Fundamentally, British people don’t like rocking the boat!

 

David Clews: They’re very conservative! That’s the thing. See, this is the thing people don’t realise. They go on about how women, White liberal women, they’re just voting to maintain the system. They’re showing the true innate conservatism. The system is open borders, love of foreigners. Women are just doing what the system tells them to do!

 

And that’s the thing, it does show an innate conservativeness that exists in Britain. It’s like people get annoyed when they say:

 

“Yeah, my granddad voted Labour, my dad voted Labour and I voted Labour!”

 

That’s actually quite, in some ways it’s so annoying, but it’s also like there is also something wholesome about that they’re carrying on that family tradition. Mark, just to say one thing, I’ve got a clip there that you might want to play. It’s with Rupert Lowe.

 

Mark Collett: It doesn’t have any [word unclear] or swearing?

 

David Clews: No. Do you want to put it on and I’ll play it so this is Rupert Lowe and his latest podcast, Patrick Bet-David.

 

Now, again, let me just clarify a few things about Lowe. Lowe went on a podcast with Eric Weinstein, whose brother is Bret Weinstein, the guy who gave the middle finger to the Arch of Titus, because he’s jewish and they hated what [chuckling] was done 2,000 years ago! Rupert Lowe’s now on with Patrick Bet-David. Patrick Bet-David is an Iranian exilist. Massive ZOG shill! Pushes, crypto scams.

 

Anyway, this is a statement Rupert Lowe’s made. He said in the previous podcast with Bret Weinstein that he detested ethno-nationalism. This is his latest:

 

“Lowe: Has Muslim worship at Windsor and things. I mean, he’s certainly very keen to propagate a multicultural society, which again, I have no problem with if people integrate. And they accept the prevailing laws and culture of the people they come and live amongst.”

 

David Clews: ‘I have no problem with a multicultural society as long as they integrate’.

 

Mark Collett: Do you know what, David, I gotta say this. I’m starting to feel that there’s two different Rupert Lowes. There’s Rupert Lowe, who is the real Rupert Lowe, and then there is somebody operating Rupert Lowe’s Twitter pretending to be Rupert Lowe.

 

And I think we’ve got somebody operating that Twitter who puts together snappily written, almost ethno-nationalist tweets as kind of rage bait, you know, Right-wing air punching slop. And then effectively Rupert doesn’t actually know what’s going up there. Because everything that Rupert says when he’s in an interview, whether it’s with Eric Weinstein, whether it’s with Michael Gove, it doesn’t matter. He says something which is very different to what his Twitter account would have you believe, he thinks.

 

So on one hand you have him saying:

 

“There’s far more to being British than just a passport!”

 

And everyone goes berserk.

 

But then he’ll start talking about the need for a meritocracy, the need for colour-blind immigration, the need for skilled migrants abroad, or he’ll start talking about his pride in the fact that his son has married a North African Muslim. And it’s kind of strange because you see these ethno-nationalists on Twitter sort of cheering him on. But they’re the same people that would be saying that his son’s spouse should be deported!

 

[50:20]

 

David Clews: Well, [chuckling] they were very quiet. Well, I can actually tell you who runs his Twitter account. It’s a guy actually called Alistair Harrison. And I need to do a bit more digging into him, but he runs, it’s called a communication company called Alistair Harrison Communications.

 

So there’s been a few people that have talked about him. Apparently he’s been involved in business with Rupert Lowe for quite some time. He’s helped him with PR. Obviously, this guy has a very, … He was the guy., … I don’t know if you saw the clip where the Restore candidate, the Telegraph, asked if they could have an interview with him. And he said no. He’s basically Rupert Lowe’s handler. And this guy clearly is a very effective communicator. He has certainly done it.

 

But more and more people are actually, … And this was always my point. Rupert Lowe is a neo-liberal, Thatcherite, Tory! I mean, his age will make him like that, his background will make him like that’s just who he is.

 

And I think that the thing that bugged me the most about it was if people had just said:

 

“Look, clearly we’re not going to do anything with Reform. Let’s just see what we can do with Restore. Let’s get our people in. Let’s see what we can do.”

 

I would have been all right with that. The thing that got my back up was people saying that:

 

“Rupert is our leader. Don’t you dare counter signal them. This is it. This is our last chance!”

 

And that’s why I think I’ve been so aggressive over the last few weeks and months against people, is the way in which it was artificially implanted into people’s minds about Restore.

 

And again, I use the relationship analogy. If you meet a girl on a night out and you go back home with her and you have amazing, like, you know what happens and it’s all great. But then a few weeks later, you’ll be like:

 

“She does that [chuckling] on the first date? She does that?”

 

You know what I mean? And then:

 

“All right, okay, she’s want to go out with her friends!”

 

It’s the same scenario. Good relationships, like our relationship, you know, at the start, we were actually quite prickly with each other and were quite combative. But then a friendship developed, and that is a much more strong grounding for something, rather than just immediately going all in. Because I use the analogy with Restore. It’s like a crypto pump and dump! It went straight up, it boomed! And the problem is, see, when you go vertical like that, what goes up must come down.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah. I mean, at this point, I think people need to really assess what’s going on here. And I think people really need to look at this and ask, honestly, if any other politician was saying these two different things. If their Twitter was saying one thing, but every interview they said another, would they be trusting them?

 

David Clews: No!

 

Mark Collett: Look, I want to move on to something slightly different now and I’ve had numerous takes on this and I want to play this. I’m going to play a little video file here. And I want to see what people think, because a lot of people agreed with me on this, but some people didn’t. And it’s a group of girls, I believe, in Rotherham, of all places, being attacked by the police. So I’m going to play this.

 

[Start of clip]

Yo, yo, yo! What’s he doing? Yo, was he mad? Why is she squaring up to him? Yo, he’s got the baton!

 

Yo! What they doing?

 

[End of clip]

 

[54:27]

 

So this was during the rounds of the day and I’ve posted this. Now, I want to give my initial impression on this. So it’s clear there that these girls were getting mouthy and the girls are about 14 or 15. They look maybe a bit older. I think actually there might be around 16. And I say that because I’ve been told it’s a school leavers event, that they’ve done the GCSEs or they’ve got to the end of the year and it was a school prom or leavers event.

 

Now, I watched that twice. And I noticed two things. First was the girls may have been mouthy, but the police officer, the primary officer there, was the first person to make physical contact. He started pushing the girls. He then drew his baton and struck at least one girl with the baton. Several of the girls were bundled onto the floor and the officer that backed him up then drew a Taser and started pointing it at people.

 

Now, the first thing I’ve got to ask, or state, and this disgusted me because there was a number of people in my chat saying:

 

“The girls somehow deserved it because they weren’t dressed traditionally and they were being too mouthy to men in authority.”

 

And to people who think like that, if I met you in real life, I’d be a lot ruder to you than I would be on this stream, because I keep the stream pretty PG. But what I saw there was the police treating White girls in a way that they wouldn’t treat any other ethnic group.

 

Now, if they were black girls doing that, firstly, do you think the police would have started by throwing the first punch?

 

Secondly, do you think the police would have got the batons out?

 

Thirdly, do you think the girls would have been [word unclear] and would have been bundled over on the floor?

 

And finally, do you think a police officer would have dared to draw a Taser and threaten them? The answers are no, no, no, and no!

 

And finally, do you think the mainstream media would have ignored this case? If this had been black girls, this would have been the front page of every paper. It would have been on every news channel. Starmer’s final act as Prime Minister would have been to take the knee. And the country wouldn’t just be hot because it was unseasonally warm. Britain would be on fire right now if White police officers had done that to black girls. And I can’t understand why anybody who calls themselves a nationalist would turn around and say:

 

“Well, the police did the right thing, mate. They gave those rowdy girls a slap!”

 

If you think that basically F off! Simply, I don’t really want, … I don’t understand how we can be a hundred thousand girls deep into a Pakistani Muslim grooming scandal that the police covered up, and now we’re shilling for the police beating White girls!

 

David Clews: I agree, I agree, I agree!

 

I mean, look, the first thing I looked at is, you see these young girls, they’re young, should they be dressed like that? No, but they are. You know, that’s just at the end of the day we don’t have a morality police, yet. So it is what it is.

 

But again, when I see young girls dress like that or being like that and they’re drunk, they can get away with that in a homogenous society. Not now. And fathers, uncles, grandparents have a duty to speak to young girls and say:

 

“Look, girls, it’s not safe for you out there. There’s a lot of horrible, nasty people!”

 

But I agree entirely. The police were disgusting in that instance! They had no right to attack those girls the way they did. And it’s just utterly, utterly filthy!

 

But that is the police now, and that’s the way they are with Whites. And they behave like that and they’re disgusting! And it could have been de-escalated. But the cops never want to de-escalate that. I mean, they’re just thugs a lot of the time.

 

Mark Collett: And it’s not just that, David. Like, so, right, You’re a big guy. You’re a lot taller than me, aren’t you?

 

David Clews: Reasonably. I don’t know. What height are you?

 

Mark Collett: I’m 5’ 10. What are you?

 

David Clews: 6’ 1.

 

Mark Collett: So like if you squared up to me and you’d had a few beers and you started shouting in my face and I held both my palms out and pushed you back to create distance. I don’t think that would be an unfair response if somebody of your size was acting in a threatening way to somebody of my size after having a few beers. Now, if I saw a 15 or 16 year old girl in a mini dress out for a school leavers prom and she shouted something at me like:

 

“Oh! Aren’t you that old racist guy that used to be in the BNP?”

 

And I ran across the street and palmed her in the chest and knocked her flying, that’d be a ridiculous response because they’re girls. And I kind of, I’m not this sort of like White knight guy that thinks that women should never get their comeuppance if they’re acting horrendously.

 

But I don’t think I could go up to a girl like that and floor her for just being a little bit mouthy. I’d be like:

 

“Come on girls, calm it down a little bit. I know it’s a big night for you but you know there are sort of ways you’ve got to behave.”

 

But there was no de-escalation, was there? The police were so happy to beat White girls!

 

And I always remember the sight of those disgusting pigs down Westminster taking the knee for Black Lives Matter after George Fentanyl Floyd died.

 

And I think to myself:

 

“They’d take the knee for the blacks. But if it’s White girls enjoying a leavers prom, …”

 

I don’t care what the girls are wearing. Look, the problem is if these were outliers, if 90% of White girls were wearing your trad dresses and these were the outliers and they were behaving in a particularly awful way. I could maybe say:

 

“Well, maybe they did deserve being treated a little bit harsher.”

 

But this is, unfortunately it’s the norm now. Now those kind of dresses, those kind of things for working class British girls are the norm.

 

[1:01:08]

 

But again they’re dressing what they see on the television. I mean again they watch Love Island, they watch TikTok, that’s all. I mean again we could have them in nice long dresses and a nice crisp white shirt with an armband on within a few weeks if you control the mainstream media, if you control the methods of communication. [chuckling] But and a lot of the time it is just quite harmless. I understand where people are coming from, but I don’t think when they get dressed like that as well:

 

“I’m going to push back against the Patriarchy!”

 

What’s her name? Who’s that? Tommy Fury married to the girl. I can’t even remember her name. Annie May or whatever she is, she wears that.

 

Mark Collett: Molly-Mae Hague.

 

David Clews: Molly-Mae Hague wears that outfit. So I’m going like Molly-Mae Hague. That’s it! Just there’s a lot of shallowness out there.

 

And again though, it is still this one though, like this isn’t a famous thing. You know my critique of girls when they go out is getting excessively drunk and going to places where there is ethnic minorities and letting your guard down. That’s my critique. And men, and also fathers and families allowing that. Because again, let me give you an example. Or you know, in like Europe you have like nude spas and stuff like that. Are men out raping the girls there? No, of course not. Because it’s a high trust White society. What you wear and what you have on, … You imagine like naked girls around Africans, what they would be doing.

 

There was a video earlier like an African wanking himself off on the beach. These people have IQs of like 60 or 70! They’re like a dog on heat. And that’s what I think you need to get across to people is:

 

“Look, girls, you can’t be like that in this society with these animals. And you need to not let your guard down with them because they’re scum and they’ll take advantage of you!”

 

And that’s the only thing I think we should really be pushing at this time.

 

Mark Collett: Well, the other thing is I’ve got to say this as well. Those girls, I understand the:

 

“Oh, they’re wearing these dresses, it’s scandalous!”

 

But I’ll tell you something, they’re the kind of working class girls who will all have three kids by the age of 24!

 

David Clews: Yeah, true.

 

Mark Collett: I can tell you this now. I’ve seen a number of these kind of like more middle class, more traditional looking women and they’re the ones, one kid at most! Don’t knock those girls don’t knock White working class girls. I live in a very working class former mining area and there are working class women in my area that have got over 10 White children! Now they might not be able to articulate themselves as well as the middle class girls, but their genetics will carry on. [chuckling] That’s something that we need to talk about.

 

David Clews: Yeah, I mean one of the things as well, like I think, and it isn’t a conversation for today, but in the long term, I think the way in which men and women have been, … I mean I don’t actually think in general, I think men and women should be educated separately. I do believe that, …

 

Mark Collett: I was! I went to an all boys school.

 

[1:04:50]

 

David Clews: So did I think the sexes should be separated from a young age.

 

And I also do believe that boys should do boy things and ghetto should do ghetto things because they actually rub off badly on each other. Men become more feminised and women become more sexualised and masculinised when they’re around men. And that was the thing as well, even in the workplace as well. Just a culture of it. Feminism is clearly a policy that has been pushed. And the society in its true essence of itself is Patriarchal. And you do need to get back to that.

 

And again, you look at an incident like that, the police are scum, but these are wider symptoms of societal breakdown. And it was the same with the rape gangs as well, is that you have to talk about the way in which families broke down. The way in which again, if this would happen. Well, it did start happening. But if you think about 100 years ago, a foreigner came into an area and started bribing young girls. A group of lads, a group of men would have got together and they would have gone and they would have got them and they would have dealt with them. It just wouldn’t have happened! They wouldn’t have got away with it.

 

And the rape gangs have happened in that absence of masculinity that you don’t have men and you don’t have organised men in areas that are able to come together and fight. That’s the biggest problem we have is we are so atomized in our existences. There just, there isn’t that togetherness that we once had in areas.

 

Mark Collett: I completely agree! I completely agree! Now we are in the second half of the show now and we’re going to do the Superchats in a minute.

 

So if you want a Superchat, please do help me as much as you can. Please do consider making some kind of contribution to the show. It’d be very much appreciated. I would very much appreciate it. So if you can, please do help.

 

Now, there is one brief thing I wanted to talk about because people have been mentioning it in the chat and I was gonna schedule this. If the Starmer-Burnham thing hadn’t happened, I was gonna put a big picture of a crocodile on the thumbnail because there’s been a lot of people talking about the fact that a young boy was thrown in a crocodile pit at a zoo. And people in the chat are saying:

 

“Have we seen the perpetrator yet? Who was the perpetrator?”

 

Well, the BBC have revealed that he was White. Now, what the BBC have also revealed is that he’s heavily disabled, extremely strong, and was able to break away from his two carers, physically overpower people in the zoo, pick up a child and hurl this child into the crocodile pit. And you’ve also got to ask. I mean, I know this isn’t really somewhere where we go, but what a horrific thing to happen!

 

And this is all, again, down to liberalisation. Care in the community. Every single institution that existed to corral and institutionalise these dangerous, for want of a better word, retards has now been closed down. These people now live among us. There is this thing called “care in the community”. They go to the same schools as our children. And this isn’t an isolated thing. It wasn’t long ago. I can’t remember which particular art gallery it was.

 

David Clews: The Tate Modern, down in London. Another, he threw the kid off the, …

 

Mark Collett: Another retard picked up a kid and hurled him off the roof!

 

David Clews: It was a French kid.

 

Mark Collett: You’ve got these fully grown men that seem to have this unnatural strength, but they’ve got the brain, …

 

David Clews: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: They’ve got the brain of a child and the impulse control of I don’t know, a drunken animal. And basically, this is incredibly dangerous! ! And I don’t know, I was talking to a few people about this and I was saying, it just seems like everything is sort of coming to a head from every level. And if you’ve got kids, it’s not just the Pakistani rape gangs, it’s not just your low IQ, African migrants who can’t control their urges. It’s also the fact that. [chuckling] Sorry, somebody in the chat has just said something so funny. Sorry, I couldn’t, … I’m usually gonna put in the chat. “Mongo strength”. That’s what they’ve said.

 

David Clews: But again, though, these people do have extraordinary, … The guy, see, if you actually look at the guy that did it. It was a guy called John Bravery was his name. And the guy has got a neck like a fucking wrestler! Like in the Mongol neck and he’s like, …

 

Mark Collett: He’s like Brock Lesnar, but with a tenth of the IQ and you’re in real trouble!

 

David Clews: But the thing is, as well, like, again, though, here is the thing now, if you saw a child like that and screaming there or anything, and he had a history of violent behaviour, this guy. He had a history of doing these things before, John Bravery. And it didn’t actually come as a shock, and he deliberately targeted that child. But, this is the thing. You’re constantly told that everyone is good at heart. That’s just not true! You should be racially profiling. You should be [chuckling] profiling everyone and trying to understand that. Someone makes a good point as well. Who were the carers?

 

So that’s the other thing is, as well. How many Africans do you see as the carer? And it’s some big fat African woman, and she’s on her fucking phone or she’s got a melon on her head. You know, that’s what all these carers are like now. There he is.

 

 

Mark Collett: I mean, his neck is as wide as his head! [chuckling] I mean, that’s not from training or steroids!

 

[1:11:06]

 

David Clews: He would kick the shit out of you and me with one hand at the same time!

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, he’d be eating his goyslop, one hand full of goyslop, gobbling away as he literally beat both of us down into the curb!

 

David Clews: But that’s the other thing is, as well. Like, you see with a lot of kids who have mental health problems, they give them so many sugary drinks. They give them utterly shite food! They have them on, like, iPads all the time. Honestly, it’s absolutely horrific! It is just a horrific culture. And again, it’s Africans!

 

I mean, that’s the thing. I hate seeing, like, these Africans out. And that’s such an awful thing! Mark, I’m just gonna go top up my milk, if that’s all right?

 

Mark Collett: You can do that. I mean, really, from my point of view as a dad, hearing about these things actually does scare me! And I’ve got to say somebody of that physical strength and development, you know, allowed to walk amongst children, allowed off the leash by his carers. I mean, it is terrifying!

 

And I just think if that was my son that had been yoinked up and hurled into the crocodile enclosure as some low IQ, one of a better word, retard, was howling and making guttural noises, thinking it was all a game, you know, who could you blame but you? You know what’s going to happen. You know what’s going to happen, don’t you?

 

The response to this won’t be that these people need to be sectioned or they need to be kept away from children. The response will be:

 

“Why weren’t the crocodiles in a glass enclosure? Why wasn’t the wall too high for the mong to hurl the child over? Why wasn’t there more adequate barricades?”

 

There’s not going to be a change, a positive change. Somehow safeguarding and the height of the walls at the zoo will be to blame.

 

And I’ve got to say I think there’s going to be more of this. I think this is a frightening development. This is a genuine political point. I think there’s going to be more of this as well. I think this is going to be another problem that’s going to get worse as this country slides into this dysgenic whirlpool of slop nonsense and ill breeding!

 

David Clews: Backs to the wall in the underground. See if I’m ever anywhere with my kids and it’s like the train or anything like that, stand next to the wall and keep them away. I’ve seen loads of videos, especially foreigners that just, … See the thing is its like we all have crazy thoughts. You know, I’m sure everyone listening to this, you have these daft thoughts about doing daft things. But they actually say that it comes from when we were hunter gatherers, you had these crazy thoughts so that you were always on alert in case like a bear ran out and tore you apart. So sometimes you have these crazy thoughts.

 

Low IQ people especially like low IQ Africans are Indians. They will act on that thought that comes into their head! And there’s been numerous instances of them pushing people onto train tracks, pushing them! This like never relax, never ever relax around blacks! You know, the phrase exists for a reason.

 

 

[1:14:47]

 

Mark Collett: Look, when I’m out with the kids and we’re out in a park, or a play place, or a soft play or something like that, and you see one of those big sort of like 14, 15 years old and he’s wearing a nappy and he’s wheeled in there by his two carers and he’s going wild on the soft play equipment near your sort of 15 month old and 6 year old! I’m the dad that’s like:

 

“We’re gonna have our snacks now or we’re going to the slide at the very other end of the play place because it is a worry.”

 

And the worst thing is when they come and start petting other children or touching other children. The social pressure now is to interact and let it go on and not say anything because if you say:

 

“I don’t want this strange, weird looking, you know much bigger and stronger kid touching my kid!”

 

You’re the bad guy because you’re not understanding it. It’s awful!

 

David Clews: Remember Emily Jones? Remember the wee girl, seven years old and she was out and she was on her scooter, some absolute lunatic. Let me try and remember her name. It was Albanian [word unclear] She was just a nut job. She was a psychopath. She nearly took the head off that wee girl. She’s scootering. She got a wee bit further away. This lunatic just appears and slits her throat and nearly takes her head off.

 

I mean, again, statistically, the chances of that happening, but you know, it’s just awful! Awful because there are a lot of nut jobs out there.

 

Mark Collett: There are. And I think it’s only going to get worse. I think that again, the societal pressure is clear. If you sidestep the migrant gang, if you sidestep the mad black guy shouting wildly in the street, if you tell your kids, don’t go near that big guy who’s making those really guttural weird roars as he punches the soft play equipment.

 

There is this pressure from these horrible liberal Whites:

 

“What are you doing? Why wouldn’t you let your kid go near John? What’s wrong with you? This is the rainbow play!”

 

And you’re like:

 

“What? No, no!”

 

You know, it’s like with these two horrible homosexuals. Jamie Varley and McGowan Zachary who murdered that wonderful baby, Preston Davy. And you’ve got people all over. I’m not on social media, but the wife told me, she said:

 

“That case is all over Instagram and all these influencers are saying, ‘Why are you saying that gays shouldn’t look after children?’”

 

Well, the first gay couple, the first, literally the very first as well, that were allowed to adopt in Britain, sexually abused their child! The first, not the second! Not one couple within the top 10, not a couple within the first hundred. Literally the first couple! The first couple that were hand picked to be the poster couple for adopting babies as a homosexual partnership chose a child so they could specifically abuse it. The first!

 

Anyway, let’s do the Superchats.

 

David Clews: Just a quick one on that. And it is so important everyone listening to this show. Look, we can’t provide you with a solution to these problems, okay? Because we’re not able to do that right now! But you are in control of yourself and you are in control of your families. And, just maybe thinking the worst is sometimes the best thing to do in these situations. Maybe just, you know what, cross to the other side of the fucking street! Like Irina Zatuska sitting on the train. And the next minute the animal, the Carmelo Anthony as well, the animal comes up and stabs! Just do what you need to do and think how you need to think. Just don’t put yourself in that situation and don’t be, please, naive.

 

And it’s the same with, if you’re dealing with the state or you’re dealing with the police, don’t think for a second, … Just always think the worst! And then if good things come out of it, then it’s a good place to be.

 

Mark Collett: And look, think of it like this. Imagine gambling your precious child’s life in order to make a liberal statement to others around you. Because that’s what it is! You are gambling the life of one of the most precious people to you in the world. The most precious if it’s an only child! And you’re gambling that to virtue signal to people around you that you will never see again. And that don’t mean anything to you know, imagine saying:

 

“Well, I didn’t pull my daughter back from the screaming black man on the train platform because I didn’t want the White London commuters to think I was racist. Now my daughter’s dead.”

 

And again, this goes back to the Burnham Badenoch, why Reform and Restore won’t win. It’s because Whites are this way programmed. White mothers would now rather virtue signal than priorit. Not all, but around 50% of White mums would rather virtue signal to people they don’t know, than they would ensure and prioritize the safety of their children. They would leave their children with a homosexual, with predatory homosexuals to prove to people on social media that they’re progressive and open minded! That’s how people are. Remember this, guys! And it’s people saying it’s women. It’s not just women. It’s men as well!

 

[1:21:01]

 

David Clews: Centrist dad. Centrist dads. There’s loads of centrist dads out there.

 

Mark Collett: You know, men are afflicted with this as much as women. I’ve made comments before and I’ve had men turn around and you’re like:

 

“You agree, right, mate? You can’t say that. What gives you the right to say that in a public place?”

 

David Clews: What?

 

Mark Collett: What are you talking to? But they will, they’ll. Men will square up to you over this in public.

 

David Clews: They will, they will. So just keep this, …

 

Mark Collett: There is a solution, David, and there’s only one solution. And it is that we get on the lifeboats and we separate ourselves from the toxic sludge that many Whites have become!

 

But look, we’ve got to do the Superchats because we’re running 20 minutes late. And look, I love running late on this show. It looks like I’m fully buttoned up, but I think there’s only about two buttons maintaining my modesty because I am sitting in a pool of, … I’ve got one of those cool pads. The wife bought me a cool pad and the cool pad is now about 32 degrees. It’s covered in sweat!

 

I mean, I would take T-shirt off, but it would be indecent.

 

And I’m not stripping for money. So there you go, guys.

 

Well, then again, maybe I would. Maybe for the right Superchat. If the Superchats total over a thousand dollars, I’ll take that. I’m only joking. I’m only joking.

 

Right, here are the Superchats and we’ve got an extreme, extremely generous Superchat to kick off with. It’s a guy called Nocasa Worries and he gave $300! Thank you so much for such a generous Superchat. He said:

 

“I always enjoy the “Mark was right” dance. Election analysis is our underrated stream. It takes guts to make big predictions publicly.”

 

Well, look, thank you so much for such a generous Superchat. That’s incredibly generous and thank you.

 

And also I want to say that I haven’t done the “I was right dance”. So I didn’t go too far. I wasn’t sort of I told you so too much. But thank you for pointing out it does take a lot. Look, I could have made very recently, I could have made a lot more money and a lot more social capital going to make a field, blogging it, shaking hands with everyone, having a picture with Rupert Lowe and riding the train. There was a lot of money to be made.

 

You know, the young Bobs of this world were out with their camera on a gimbal, monetizing every second of it. Every selfie that was there to be taken, every stunt to be partaken in, they were on board. I’m not that guy. If I think that something’s going to go wrong, I will say that and I’ll nail my colours to the mast! So thank you for such a generous, generous, Superchat.

 

But I’ve got to say this as well. Look, David’s the same. Me and David have both been hung out to dry over this. People were saying that we were clowns, we were talking rubbish! I had a guy and look, he’s a good guy. This guy’s a good guy. He’s in my chat, he supported me in the past and he was saying:

 

“What are you gonna say to me when Restore winning Makerfield?”

 

And it wasn’t. But we’re laughing. It wasn’t his fault.

 

David Clews: No!

 

Mark Collett: And I’ll tell you why it’s not his fault. Rupert was saying on the Saturday before:

 

“I honestly believe we’re gonna win this. People were built up to be knocked down.”

 

And I’ll tell you this, one of the most dangerous things you can do is predict victory on the eve of defeat. Because not only do you suffer the loss, but you suffer something far worse than a loss. Because a loss isn’t the end of the world.

 

[1:24:42]

 

David Clews: This is the point I tried to make. All these people who just went all in, I mean, they went all in. They basically, like think of it as a game of poker. They went all in on Restore. They’ve basically fucked themselves over! Because, see, when it all implodes, which it is going, … I mean, it’s even happening quicker than we, many of us thought.

 

And I don’t know if you saw yesterday, like Lotus Eaters did this Makerfield review and it was Benjamin sitting in a chair, it was a big leather thing and it was Charlie Downs and Connor Tomlinson. And I tweeted out about. I went pretty hard on it and then.

 

But the thing is, see, the comments, people were like genuinely, excuse my language, like:

 

“You fucking cunts! You were telling us they’re going to win that election and get 20% of the vote and they’re nowhere near it. And you’re sitting there and you’re just moaning!”

 

And this is what I actually said to people is:

 

“Look, see, if you go all in on this, you’re out there in the middle of the ocean on a life raft and there’s no one coming to rescue you. So just hedge your bet!”

 

Like that’s the sensible thing to do. Hedge your bet. Don’t get too taken in. And honestly, see the viciousness that Benjamin and these other people were getting. It was really ruthless because as I said, nobody likes to feel they’ve been conned. It’s that sinking feeling that you got.

 

And this is the other thing about emotions, the pendulum of an emotion. If you have a really intense emotion one way, which is joy and happiness, that emotion can then go the very far way. And it’s anger and rage! There’s no middle ground. And that’s what people are going to have towards all the influencers and everyone else who have, … I’ve really called this disgracefully wrong and used as an opportunity. That’s the thing as well. I see people now that the abuse that they’re getting and some of its pretty harsh, but they’re saying:

 

“You’re just up there and you’re getting your fucking photo taken and you’ve got your ‘buy me a coffee’ and everything.”

 

And again, I’m not against people. We ask for money on the Internet, but we do it from a position of reasonable honesty and principle. Like we’re not selling a turd wrapped in gold paper! Which is what these people are doing. If they’d have just played a bit more cool. And again I love my analogies. It’s like the ugly guy getting the stunner. It is! And you know what? We’re the ugly guys! The stunner, I mean, this is, in a political sense, the stunner shouldn’t be wanting anything to do with us. The only reason the stunner wants him to do with us is she wants something off of us. She wants her clout or she wants our money!

 

That’s what people need to realise that we are [chuckling] the scum of the Internet! You know, we are the dreaded far-Right! The dissidents! And frankly, we need to stay that way and remain pure from these people.

 

Mark Collett: Look, I want to say this as well. So Sagon, Carl Benjamin. I’m not saying. Well, I am. He’s thick! And the problem is he’s an idiot! 20% in a Parliamentary by-election would be huge for any party.

 

David Clews: Yep.

 

Mark Collett: But to predict that, when you’re up against Reform and you’re going in at what was looking like it was going to be a 45-45 split initially between Reform and Labour before Restore on the ballot paper is an idiotic thing! But this is because he’s never been in politics. The problem is, okay, and everyone says I’m a know it all, and I am.

 

But do you know the trick to being a know it all, David?

 

David Clews: Experience?

 

[1:29:00]

 

Mark Collett: No, you only ever! Yeah, you only ever talk about the things you know about!

 

So if you get me on a show and you ask me about nationalist politics, electoral strategy, Nintendo, how good giant cans of energy drink taste, maybe real life crime or American serial killers or things that I’ve taken an interest in, I will talk about them because I know about it, because it’s something I’m interested in. Or maybe if somebody invites me on a show and I’ve just watched a weird documentary on WWF Wrestling in the 90s or how Transformers dominated the toy market in the late 1980s, I’m like:

 

“Oh, that looks interesting. I’ll watch that.”

 

I might drop something in about something I’ve just watched. It’s because I know about it. But if you invited me on and started to talk to me about the economics of ballet during the 1800s, I wouldn’t say a word, because I don’t know anything about it.

 

And the problem with Carl is he talks about a lot of things that he knows nothing about, but he talks about it with an authoritative tone, as if these are like the big brain takes!

 

And I think the problem that he’s got is him and his gang of Lotus Eaters*. I didn’t even know what a lotus eater is, by the way! It’s the stupidest name for a podcast ever! You do better off calling yourself, you know, “four tits on a couch”. You know, it means nothing. It means nothing!

 

[* Lotus-Eater, in Greek mythology, one of a tribe encountered by the Greek hero Odysseus during his return to Ithaca from Troy, where the Greeks had been victorious in the Trojan War. Odysseus arrived in an unfamiliar land after a north wind had driven him and his men from Cape Malea (Homer, Odysee; Book IX). The local inhabitants, whose distinctive practice is indicated by their name, invited Odysseus’ scouts to eat of the mysterious plant. Those who did so were overcome by a blissful forgetfulness; they had to be dragged back to their ships and chained to the rowing-benches, or they would never have returned to their duties. Odysseus and his crew then sailed on to their next stop: The land of the Cyclopes, where they encountered Polyphemus. The 5th-century-BC historian Herodotus located the Lotus-Eaters on the Libyan coast. The ancient Greeks applied the name “Libya” generally to North Africa and the Tunisian island of Djerba is commonly identified as the land of the Lotus-Eaters. Alfred, Lord Tennyson brought the story to the modern world in his poem “The Lotos-Eaters” (1832). Source: https:// www.britannica.com/topic/Lotus-Eater]

 

But the fact is he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

 

David Clews: No!

 

Mark Collett: That doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what he’s talking about at anything. But if you’re going in to talk about a small specialist topic, whether that be as I said:

 

“How transformers took over the toy market in the 1980s.”

 

And people make documentaries on these things, or whether you’re talking about the rise of nationalism in the late 1970s, you’ve got to be an expert. You can’t just fire from the hip. And Sargon’s just like:

 

“This is our time. Rupert Lowe is the first politician to engage with me since I killed, …”

 

David Clews: Gerard Batton’s career.

 

Mark Collett: Gerard Batton’s career!:

 

“So I better double down and tell everyone he’s gonna win! And look I was at UTK and I’m on X and everyone retweets me!”

 

But he’s just realised that that’s not actually what makes you a winner.

 

Now, unfortunately for Sargon and for a lot of people, I am the only person in Britain that was heavily involved in the three biggest power winning nationalist campaigns in history, Barking and Dagenham. 2006, I did the leaflets, I did the reminders, I worked on the campaign, GLA 2008, I did the booklet insert, I did the additional leaflets, I handed the leaflets out. And European Parliament 2008, I did every bit of publicity for that campaign. No one else can say that!

 

So that’s like my thing! But no one will talk to me because I’m the bad guy. But because it’s my thing, I predicted it. Carl’s never done it. Carl’s never done it. And that’s why he’s come unstuck.

 

David Clews: No, no. And again, when they were doing their canvassing, they said they primarily knocked on doors that had a Reform poster on them. And see, because people went there and they travelled from all around the UK, they weren’t actually canvassing properly. They were engaging in, … That’s what Hopium does. Hopium says that, …

 

Mark Collett: Engaging in a big circle jerk of confirmation bias!

 

David Clews: Correct, Correct! And they got it completely wrong.

 

And what’s going to happen to them in this Manchester election? They’re going to get absolutely slaughtered! And if they get less than 5% in that, which is a distinct possibility, or they get maybe between 5 and 10%, a lot of people are just going to turn around and say:

 

“What is happening here? What have you sold us?”

 

Mark Collett: If Restore were to get under 5%, it would be seen as catastrophically bad, for two reasons.

 

Firstly, they have a sitting MP. And secondly, they have a million pound war chest.

 

David Clews: More than that they have four or five million quid! So they raised about four or five, plus, you don’t know how much Musk might have given them.

 

Mark Collett: No, exactly!

 

Well, look, we’ll move on from this. Point gave $25 and said:

 

“Donation.”

 

Thank you so much! Gassings Never Happened, gave $14. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Please, could David Showcase his talents and perform his lucky Larry Silverstein impression?”

 

David Clews: Well, [chuckling] yeah, you have to watch UNN for a Larry Silverstein impression, I’m afraid. That’s something that’s paywalled. I’m afraid on UNN to get a Lucky Larry. So it’s funny, I was thinking about Lucky Larry today. It just popped into my head. There’s an individual like that in the world. Just always makes me laugh, now cry as well.

 

But, yeah, he got very lucky, let’s just put it that way. [chuckling]

 

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Mark Collett: It Was Made Up gave $10. Thank you so much, and said:

 

“So how long do you give Burnham if he becomes PM? Can the country even be governed at this point? Seven leaders in a, seven prime ministers in a decade.”

 

Now you say, can it be governed? Of course it can. Labour have got a massive majority. They’ve got a larger mandate for ruling than the Conservatives ever did over their 14 year tenure. You have to remember that.

 

So it can absolutely be governed. And this slop that the Daily Mail pumps out that if you change leader, you have to call a general election. Well, the Tories didn’t call a general election every time they changed leader. You know, they had Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak. It was a disaster!

 

Now, I’ll say this. Fundamentally, we are in a situation now where things are looking pretty grim from our point of view. But from a Parliamentary point of view, Labour have this unbelievable majority and that gives them a mandate.

 

And what’s more, they have a mandate because the press have given them a mandate. The media have talked up Burnham as the liberator, the King, the man of the north, coming down to free the people. They can’t do that and then say:

 

“Oh, but you have to hold a general election, mate!”

 

And people saying:

 

“We need a general election!”

 

You might be sorry about that! Because with the momentum Labour has at the moment, with Burnham coming back, if there was a general election tomorrow, let me tell you how it would work out. Labour would win, possibly a similar majority, the Tories would see a slight comeback and Restore and Reform would cancel each other out. And the First Past the Post system would effectively ensure that Restore and Reform probably wouldn’t win more than 10 seats in total together. The SNP would easily win in Scotland, Plaid would win in Wales and the Greens would probably gain a few extra seats. And you’d actually see a situation that could be worse than what we’ve got now.

 

Because if Labour did slide, it wouldn’t slide to the point where it didn’t hold power. It would slide to the point where it was the dominant force in a far-Left coalition where the concessions wouldn’t be made to a Restore or Reform. The concessions would be made to Zach Polanski or Jeremy Corbyn and Zara Sultana.

 

David Clews: Yeah, I think it will depend on what happens once Burnham takes over. I think if they see a bit of a boost in the polls, I wouldn’t be surprised if he did call a general election. He might not. He can wait.

 

I mean, that’s the thing. There is no constitutional requirement of a general election till 2029. None at all! He can come in, he can do the three years, years. But I think if they get a sniff that the polls have reversed, … Because this is the other thing that people have to realise, a poll is meaningless!

 

The only thing that matters is how you vote on the day. And the problem is that is Reform have lost two by-elections that they had to win if they were going to be able to form a government in the next general election. They got routed in Gorton and Denton and routed in Makerfield as well. And like the swingometer required for Reform to take all these seats off Labour, it’s incredible what would need to happen in order to do that.

 

And the other thing that people underestimate again is you have a huge payroll vote in Britain that relies on the NHS, the public sector, the trade union movement. You also you’ve got loads of liberals, you’ve got a lot of very liberal areas. These people will come together to destroy Nigel Farage. I mean, they think Nigel Farage is a Nazi! They think Nigel Farages is far-Right.

 

So this is the other problem for us. We all know Farage isn’t. They think he’s the nemesis. And you might, you find that in civic society, … The other bellwether I use is, I use like the John Sopel, Emily Maitland test. Now they’re like North London jews, they hate Nigel Farage! They can’t stand anything Nigel Farage represents because they understand that that Farage could be a stepping stone to something more dangerous. He could end up being like a Hindenburg figure. So they and the media will go out of their way to destroy Farage. And you got a taste of that over the 5 million donation. They will pump that into all the TV screens if there is a general election.

 

Mark Collett: And look, I’ve got a slight disagreement with you on this, mate, only minor. I don’t think Gorton and Denton was too bad for Reform and I’ll tell you why. The king makers there were the Pakistani Muslims. And we know that when they come out and vote, I think that they were about 22% of the constituency. So we know they were gonna basically at a 50% turnout. If all of them turned out, they get 44% off the bat and you know how much that changes things.

 

But I think the Makerfield one was the breaking point and I’ll tell you why. They’d won every seat in Makerfield.

 

David Clews: That’s true, that’s true.

 

[1:40:24]

 

Mark Collett: And that was failing to win! Failing to win a place with a sizable motivated ethnic minority, you know, sectarian voting group is not the worst thing ever! Failing to win that is not the worst thing ever! Failing to win possibly the most ethnically homogeneous seat in the working class part of the northwest, that’s pretty grim!

 

But anyway, look, we’ve got to move on because we want to get these done before we all melt. Snazzy candidate gave $8. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Hi, David and Mark. We must remember invisibility of goodness. People always work hard to fight against a big evil. In this case, Keir Starmer, the public sighed relief. But ubiquity of the corrupt media disorganises them again.”

 

Well, thank you so much! The Resident Baker gave $5. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“Evening, Mark and David. A Collett and Clews double header is always great. Very salient point about the current environment for our daughters. We shouldn’t have to live this.”

 

Well, we both echo that. Autism is Unstoppable gave $10. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Evening, Mark and David. I think one of the reasons relations between men and women have broken down in the last, 200 years is due to the lack of community preventing men and women from meeting naturally.”

 

David Clews: Yes, yes, yes!

 

Mark Collett: Well, I think there’s a lot of things. I think that’s true.

 

But I also think there’s feminism, there’s the divorce court and I think there’s a social pressure. At one point, like back in my parents day, having a divorce was so stigmatized it was unthinkable. Now having a divorce is what all the girls do when they want to reboot their lives because they think it’s trendy. You know, you have these people who’ve got three, four kids and they have a minor fallout over something and it’s “irreconcilable differences”. I think there’s a lot of reasons. But I do agree the normal natural community of going to the working men’s club on a Friday night for a dance and meeting somebody that going, has definitely hurt people.

 

David Clews: Yeah, it is. Internet dating, Tinder bars, all absolutely horrific! I always had really good relationships with ghettos I met at the gym. I always think the gym is the best place to meet women and I’ll tell you why. Because chances are they live geographically near you. Like long distance relationships really don’t work. I mean they sometimes do, but by and large you want to be seeing them.

 

Go to a gym and look, here’s a wee life hack. Go to yoga classes or go to things that are actually predominantly. There’s lots of women, you know, do your numbers. If you go to a class where there’s like 20 women and there’s only two guys and one of them is like a fag, you’ve got a much better chance, [chuckling] you know, than everyone else. And you know there are still good women out there. I mean, don’t be unsure about that there are still a lot of normal women out there and looking for nice guys. I always think go to the gym and meet them face to face. Online dating is just, it’s horrific because the problem is if she’s messaging you, there’s another hundred guys fucking liking her profile and ready to take you out.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, agreed mate, agreed. Greeny from Oz97 gave two. Thanks so much, and he said:

 

“A lot of my dad’s Boomer friends have been getting behind Tommy recently and after listening to yourself I know he’s not genuine. What’s the best straightforward way to explain his cuckery?”

 

Well, simply explain to them that he is behind multiculturalism, just not Islam. And fundamentally he was supporting the very Sikh community that have supported Henry Novak’s killer! You know, the people up on stage, the Sikhs up on stage at Unite the Kingdom that Tommy endorsed went on stream and said that:

 

“They would defecate on Henry Novak’s grave.”

 

That tells you that Tommy is pushing the wrong people. He’s not pro-White, he’s just anti-Islam. He’s totally up for multiculturalism as long as it doesn’t include Islam. I don’t know what you’ve got to add to that, mate, but I think supporting the people who supported Henry Novak’s killer is just, …

 

David Clews: The thing is with Tommy Robinson is pure slop. Like, why do people go and eat food at McDonald’s? They know it’s shite for them, but they still do it. Why do people order a Deliveroo? They know it’s shite, but they still do it. I think in these situations you can’t waterboard them like as much as you want to! [chuckling] So you want to give them a slap. You just need to probably sow a few seeds of doubt. I mean, one of the ones would be as well, I mean, Tommy Robinson’s been doing this for 15 years. Has he ever achieved anything? He’s always going on about Israel and did you see what they did?

 

My advice in these situations is just plant seeds. And then, because usually when you argue with someone, if you tell them they’re a sicko and it gets their backup. Like say to them:

 

“Yeah, well, it’s good, they’re actually waking up to what’s going wrong.”

 

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But I’ve got my concerns about Tommy. Just plant a few seeds.

 

Mark Collett: And do it in a pleasant way. Don’t belittle them too much. Say:

 

“Oh, but have you heard this?”

 

Anyway. Hazelnut 3000, gave $10. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Thank you, Mark and David.”

 

Well, thank you to you. Baba2 gave $50. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Intentionally White communities, that’s our future. Thank you for not stripping. My community is very White, higher income and safe. No apologies. Thank you so much!”

 

Dodzy04 gave $5. Thank you very much and said:

 

“Top lads. Mark, could you sell joining PA from the Steel City mate? I’m on the fence.”

 

Look, join PA if you want. If you want to be part of a pro-White community that is a community, advocates for our rights and takes part in activism, join PA! If that’s not your bag, don’t join PA.

 

But look, there’s only one group in Britain that has consistently raised money, openly and transparently, then given away 100% of the money after payment processing fees to the families of political prisoners. That’s PA!

 

Now, the thing is that annoys me and this does annoy me. I’m not saying it annoys me with you specifically, but it does annoy me that people say:

 

“Why isn’t anyone backing the political prisoners?”

 

Well, we are and we’re giving their families money.

 

But when we do that, people then still don’t join. You know, if you want an advocacy group, join us. If you want a political party, go elsewhere. You know, there are lots of groups out there. But if advocacy and community building is your thing and specifically if helping the families of anti-White two tier justice is high on your agenda, there’s only PA that does that.

 

David Clews: I think if you’re a young White man, you do have to hang about with other White men. I’ve managed to get to a PA conference and it was good people. And if you’re meeting up locally, you want to be involved with people who you think like. Just don’t be ashamed of it. You are who you are. You have the worldview that you have. Just be with people that you can get on with and you’ll feel better for it. It’s a bit like hanging around with White people or people that are like you. It just natural. Just do what is natural.

 

Mark Collett: Agreed. Jez9999 gave a dollar. Thank you so much, and said:

 

“Sorry if this seems like a basic question but if Lowe hates ethno-nationalism, what’s the point of him? He wants people to integrate but so do Reform. Should we just vote Reform or ignore British politics altogether?”

 

Look, if you read my article, and it’s free on Substack, I’ve got a massive Substack now please go and read my latest article on why the Conservatives are worse than Labour and why they must be destroyed. It’s up there, it’s free, it’s linked in the chat. Please go and support my Substack. You don’t have to give me a financial contribution like many people ask for. It’s all free. But if you want to, that does help.

 

But my latest article it’s explains the only organisation to have ever defeated anti-immigration parties in the UK is the Conservatives. It’s never been the far-Left, it’s never been Hope Not Hate, it’s never been Labour, it’s always been Thatcher, Cameron, Johnson. The Conservative Party is the one that we have to destroy! And I’ll always say this, if there is a better way to beat the Conservatives, tell me. But at the moment the only party that has managed to effectively beat them is Reform. And nowRestore are causing a split that makes that less likely. I’m not endorsing Reform as an end, but I’m endorsing them as a wrecking ball that could be a means to an end. I’ve explained this to you personally, my friend, because I know who you are and we spend time together in the real world. But that’s the only way for forward.

 

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David Clews: I keep saying that people say to me that I shill for Reform. There’s actually been, I was calling out Reform years ago, talking about their funding, talking about like Nick Candy and all these people, Zia Yosuf. But look, you have to be realistic if you believe in a political solution.

 

I mean, I don’t believe in a political solution, but if you do believe in your vote and you want to vote, they are the only show in town. The problem, what was happened now with Restore, they’ve poisoned the well. The well is poisoned! And with Burnham coming back and the full force of the media behind them like it’s bleak now! There is not really a vehicle now for us to attack either Labour or the Tories. And in some ways it will be good because there will be a purge and we will go back to our natural state of being dissidents against the system in its entirety.

 

So there are positives potentially here.

 

Mark Collett: Agreed. Greenie from Oz97 gave another five. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Would love to see you guys review Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia as a movie review? Some awesome British Empire history as an Aussie, it’s cool to see the motherland when it was at the peak of its might.”

 

Look, we’ve done a few of these. We’ve done Zulu and Zulu Dawn. I’d be happy to review these for you. No problem. We’re reviewing Citizen Vigilante on Sunday. Iggs 22 gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Mark and David. Prisoners cost around 800 pounds per week. Now thoughts on bringing back hard labour, certain agricultural jobs and digging trenches for power lines or whatever.”

 

Look, when it comes down to it, I was watching something the other day about a convicted child killer in Wakefield Prison and three people walked into his cell and stabbed him to death. And at first I was like:

 

“Well, why are people celebrating this?”

 

Surely, yeah, a child killer has been killed. But one of the guys that killed the child killer killed a 24 year old woman and he’s hidden her body and he’s refusing to tell her parents where the body’s hidden.

 

Yet people are now praising him online. Like, okay, the child killer might be marginally worse in the prison hierarchy, but killing a 24 old woman and not giving her parents the closure of being able to bury her remains is not far off. And I was thinking about this and thinking, well they’ve all got these full life tariffs. On one hand I do think it’s probably more of a punishment to keep them in jail for the rest of their lives.

 

But on the other hand some of them clearly enjoy being in jail! Form a community and you know, roll with it as if they’re heroes in there because they’re notorious. They’re stabbing people they don’t like. They going to the gym, they’re still out exercising, they don’t have to worry about paying the bills and keeping the heating on. I did think to myself, with all these people on full life tariffs, why not just take them out? Bit of scrub land, firing squad, it’s over and done with. It would save us an awful lot of money, hassle. And let’s face it, if you have murdered children, if you have abused babies, if you have murdered young women and hidden their bodies and refused to tell the parents, what real service do you give to society?

 

David Clews: I was just doing a wee look there about the what the number of prisoners are. They’re currently 86,000 people in prison in England and Wales.

 

Mark Collett: That’s bigger than the army!

 

David Clews: Yeah.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah. That’s bigger.

 

David Clews: 34% are because of violence against someone. Sexual offence is 23%, drug offence is 13% theft 10 to 12% robbery 7% possession of weapons 7%, criminal damage, public order.

 

So it’s like on a statistical basis the amount of people in prison for murder is probably tiny, maybe like a few hundred people Max over it. Well it’ll be thousands over the years.

 

So the thing is as well there is a problem with habitual drug offenders and then see all the people that are in for violence, it’ll all be drinking, drug related violence as well. So these people, a lot of them, they are just a product of the culture of the system, which is goyslop! And [chuckling] which is liberalism.

 

And this is where I’m actually a wee bit different. Like I don’t go for the whole hang them and flog them. These are people who are probably victims of the system. Who if the system was better and say you had traditional industry like steel works or manufacturing, they probably wouldn’t have turned to life a crime and drugs. That’s where if we could get things together. But again if you kill a child, rape a child, rape someone, like those gays, they should just be taken into the public square and be burned to death. There is no rehabilitation for people that have done that.

 

But I do think there is a wider argument to be had about why men are doing that and if there is something that could be done to rehabilitate them and get them back on, rather than just shoving them in prison because then they meet fellow criminals. How many men have gone to prison and then their girlfriends left them or their wife’s left them and their life’s ruined after that and then they turn to more crime. There needs to be, I think there needs to be a fundamental analysis of how we can get people back living full, healthy, happy lives and not just the whole “they’re scum!” They’re just people that have gone the wrong way in life.

 

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Mark Collett: Interesting perspective. I look, I think some people can be helped but I think your full life tariff people might as well just be, …

 

David Clews: Yeah they should. You just need to deal with them. A firing squad would be sufficient.

 

Mark Collett: DodZ04 gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Another five for the solid answer about joining PA mate. Will join over the weekend.”

 

Well thank you so much! Would be good to see you at events. And Hedgehogs 82 gave $5. Thank you so much! Said:

 

“Mark, why did you fall out with Alec Yerbury?”

 

We’re not getting back into Alec Yerbury! [David laughing] If it’s anyone’s fault, it’s David’s because David arranged a debate and the debate was more than humiliating for Alec, and ever since then he has probably rightfully so hated me with all his might, with all his little might.

 

But it’s basically I don’t hate the guy, I just think he’s a clown because he’s wasting his own time and everyone else’s.

 

David Clews: You know I think deep down Alex still really likes you and has a lot of respect for you deep down, and he won’t admit that but I think he still does. I like Alec. And I mean I know a lot of people don’t. But his analysis of the problems are correct but his solution is wrong as well. And clearly the NRP are providing a genuine third party and there’s good people involved in it but you know, will it go? I mean Alec thinks it’s going to take power. I disagree with that, I disagree with Alex analysis. But I think again he is a character. But I think he likes you deep down, Mark! And I think he probably feels bad about falling out with you.

 

Mark Collett: Maybe. Maybe. Look, like one thing about Alec that I’ve got to say, that really kind of disappoints me.

 

But it’s a disappointment with the movement. It’s a disappointment with the movement. And it’s that fundamentally we have a situation where people want to reinvent the wheel.

 

And I think one of Alex’s biggest problem problems is he thinks that if he comes into nationalism and tries to work it out all for himself and provide the answers, ultimately he’s going to do that, which he isn’t. And that’s not to be nasty. No one is. Nationalism has a long and complicated history.

 

And if you decide that you’re going to try and redo it all yourself and learn it all yourself and reinterpret it all yourself, you’re probably gonna come unstuck, which he has. I remember sitting at a meeting with him once, all around the big table, and he gave a very impassioned speech. And I’m gonna give him that. It was a very impassioned speech. He said:

 

“Look, we’re gonna do something no one’s ever done before. We’re gonna go to town after town, city after city. We’re gonna take a hundred men the first week, and a month down the line, it’ll be 300 men, and the public will see us. We will march through these places and our name will spread and we will grow. And we will build a large, dynamic political movement! And no one’s ever done this before. We are going to march and grow, he said, and I’m not going to have anything to do with any of you. I’m going to prove you’re wrong!”

 

And he collected his things and he stormed out of that meeting. And everyone looked at each other very uncomfortably. And a guy who was sat there, who was older than me and has been involved in this longer than me, turned to everyone and broke the silence by saying:

 

“Did he just describe the 1970s National Front March and Grow strategy?”

 

And everyone burst into laughter! Because his grand scheme had been tried and failed. And this is where if you’re gonna do something, do something new!

 

Now, no one has done what PA did, which is to be a community advocacy group.

 

Now, the Left have always had them, but the Right haven’t. Everyone’s tried March and Grow. Everyone’s tried another political party, and it’s why we do things differently.

 

But he didn’t want to accept that. And I think he’s gonna have to go through every phase of nationalism before he comes to the conclusion that they all were tried and failed for different reasons. And it’s sad.

 

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David Clews: I would have had more respect for him if it was a Godfather 3 style situation. Remember when Joey Zaza, remember they have a meeting of all the, …

 

Mark Collett: I’ve never seen it. I’ve not seen number three.

 

David Clews: So that Joey Zaza comes in and he falls out with Michael and he leaves. The next thing, a helicopter appears with a machine gun and everybody gets shot.

 

I mean, if Yerbury was really serious, that’s what would have happened. All the nationalists would have been taken out at that point. He would have reigned supreme! [chuckling]

 

Mark Collett: Gosh, that’s a grim thought, isn’t it, that he could have taken care of business. Green from Oz97 gave another $2. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“I felt embarrassed seeing Keir’s resignation speech. Seeing a leader of a Western nation crying publicly on TV’s weak, gay and retarded!”

 

And there is something to be said for Western stoicism. Control your emotions, channel them and use them as a power source. Never let your emotions become your master! There’s a good bit of advice from Marky C.

 

And finally, Baba2 gave a $20 donation. Very generous tonight. Thank you so much! And said:

 

“That’s for you to buy some raw milk to keep up with David. Really, I just love supporting you and your work.”

 

Thank you so much! I’m on the Jersey Gold Top. I love that plug of cream that you get when you pop it open. Can’t get enough of it and I’m forcing it among the kids every morning at breakfast time. Here’s to a stronger next generation.

 

But that brings us to the end of the show. It’s been sticky, it’s been hot, but it’s been very good. We are in the very top tier of streams on Rumble tonight. David, I’ve been watching it as we’ve gone on and where it shows Rumble live. I don’t know if you’ve seen, but we’ve been beating out some much bigger names and it’s largely thanks to you.

 

So thank you so much for that. I’ve got to say, you brought the fire tonight. And yeah, we’re in the, if you look at it, I think we’re 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. We’re in the top 20 streams on the whole of Rumble! We easily beat out George Galloway tonight, almost doubling his numbers. Beat Tim Pool. Beats plenty of big names, in fact. And we’re even closing in on Dr. Disrespect. So a good night all in.

 

So thank you for being here, David. Thank you for making such a good stream. Have the last word before we go and jump in the shower. Individually, not together. We’re not getting into the shower together!

 

David Clews: Vibes. [chuckling] Yeah, well, it’s just nice to see a lot of UNNers there in the chat as well. And Joey’s up. Joey always does this. Joey seems to know when the show is coming to an end, don’t you, Joey? I don’t know. Why is that switched to my background there? Did I just do that?

 

Mark Collett: We’ve not showering together, are we, David?

 

David Clews: No, we’re in the UNN. We’re actually together in the UNN studios.

 

Mark Collett: So I just did that as a joke. Because I made it as a joke.

 

David Clews: We’re together. Sorry, Wait, Joey, come here. Look, come here. Let everyone see you. Look. [his dog] So this is Joey. Joey, come on, show everyone. There he is. Don’t even see his wee head popping and you won’t be able to see it. There he’s at the bottom. He always seems to know when the show is coming to an end and he wants us out to the bathroom.

 

Brilliant numbers. Great to see the UNNers over and thanks to everyone that donated to Mark as well and keep us going because it all adds up. We’ve not got snake oil to sell you and we just want to keep doing what we’re doing because I think there is a gap. Again, there is actually a gap in the market for a wee bit of honesty. And I said after the Covid scam to people:

 

“Look, I’m not going to bullshit you. I’m going to be as honest as I can.”

 

And I think we’ve done that and people want to hear that. And I think the clear thing is look out for yourself like people.

 

That’s not to say you go and become a selfish narcissist, but look out for yourself and look out for your families. And be with people of a like mind and take positive steps, you know, do self improvement and do these things and we’ll all get better. Won’t we, Joey? We’re gonna go a walk. People call him “Jewy” because he tries to get me to stop my shows. [chuckling] Right, cheers, everyone.

 

Mark Collett: It has been a great show tonight and great numbers. I just want to thank Dave for being here. I want to thank everybody who donated so generously. I want to thank everyone who’s live in the chat. Amazing numbers across all platforms. Across all platforms. Over 700 people! So thank you so much!

 

And I want to say go and check out my Substack. It’s all free. Go and have a look over there. It’s really good!

 

I’ll be back on Friday for a stream. I’ll be back on Sunday for a review of Citizen Vigilante.

 

And again, just a huge thank you to David. Thank you to everyone who donated so generously. Thank you to everyone who tuned in. You know, I love you all. Thank you. I’m pleased you survived this show and I’m pleased we didn’t melt.

 

And I’ll be back next week for another episode of Patriotic Weekly Review. Thank you. I love you all. Stay strong. Keep fighting. Good night.

 

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Mark Collett
3 days ago
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Green
3 days ago
David is always such a great guest. Cheers, and a big thank-you to both of you gents.

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0KT0BER
3 days ago
“I have no problem with multi-culturalism as long as they integrate.” Tommy Robinson. oh no sorry I meant Rupert lowest

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Luther Sloan
3 days ago
Later good people o/ 14

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Luther Sloan
3 days ago
Sargon smugly chuckling as he grifts you with talking points from a decade ago.

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makersnameplate
1 day ago
Lotus eater =
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus-eaters

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Mark Collett
9 hours ago
Figuratively, ‘lotus-eaters’ denotes “people who spend their time indulging in pleasure and luxury rather than dealing with practical concerns”.

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Mr
2 days ago
Only Nationalists care about their countries. The rest of the globalist anywhere types treat our countries like they are “the commons” and will strip it bare.

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Mr
2 days ago
Multicultural is not the same as multiracial. Multicultural is by definition NOT integrated. Someone please tell Rupert.

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Cone of Silence
2 days ago
Freinds indeed

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Luther Sloan
3 days ago
Thanks for the show, David is always a great guest.

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MilosM.
3 days ago
But Mark, he will become the Britain’s first unelected PM.

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makersnameplate
1 day ago
Who will? I can offer you John Major, Gordon Brown, Theresa May, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak, and that’s off the top of my head.

MilosM.
3 days ago
Death penalty for the worst crimes.

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Luther Sloan
3 days ago
I don’t think we should imprison people at all. Either fines, flogging, forced labor or execution.

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Green
3 days ago
Here, here.

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MilosM.
3 days ago
Public hanging for the creeps.

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MilosM.
3 days ago
No fault divorce should be banned

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@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
the bible says the devil sowed tares in among the wheat

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Secure the future of our people
3 days ago
Mongo

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Secure the future of our people
3 days ago
o/ Christ refused to sit and eat with tax collectors and Toll’s men

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Prison Ships
3 days ago

@ CriticalThinker2026 Anti•Satanism is unstoppable.

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pa
2 days ago
this will have to be my last watch of PWR im afraid as i think those lasses deserved what they got from the police , and of course any donations go with me

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Achille Fontanelli
1 day ago
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

makersnameplate
1 day ago
Sure, they were misbehaving, but it’s all about proportionality.
If you think the police acted proportionately and reasonably, then there’s no then I can’t help you.
They were being a bit mouthy, not violent, and they are young girls , not beefed up blokes.

Kevin
5 hours ago
It is discrediting to yourself to have this complete moron and conspiracy theorist on. He is dumber than Patriart who thought to moon landings didn’t happen

makersnameplate
1 day ago
Candygram for Mungo. Mungo like candy.

Just stuff
1 day ago
Some manner of a far left-right alliance indeed appears as the only way forward at this point. I fact, almost anything which brings about the collapse of the system works and then we attempt to fish in the muddy waters when it does. Like them commies in Russia and China and elsewhere did. Sure, I know that this is not what Uncle taught us, but he effectively lived in a post-collapse environment. Much like that of Russia post the spring 1917 Revolution – not even the 1905 one.

Just stuff
1 day ago
The pigs – there is something really systemically wrong with them. They have too much of an engrained feeling of invincibility/impunity over their actions. I think it is a more general thing… not like these pigs wake up in the morning thinking “oh, what a fine day it is today to kick and oppress some whitey!”.

Just stuff
1 day ago
Why not push for total Abolition and the review of old property structures and laws that entrench the elites. I mean, e.g. so many live (and work) in leasehold properties. Why not check out who is the freeholder there owning it all and how that came to be?

@filled_soda
2 days ago
David is unfathomably based.

@popovacianen
2 days ago
ffs mark buy an ac im from croatia we all have those there aint no way english cant have one

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@UKrobm
1 day ago
we can have AC in the UK but we also have what is possibly, probably, the most expensive electricity in the world, so AC is very expensive for us.

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago
crap catbox doesnt work

Secure the future of our people
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Secure the future of our people
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@MilosM.
ooh. Only Alek I do know

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 Yerbury.

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 who is Alek?

MilosM.
3 days ago
David should arrange another debate between Mark and Alek.

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 He will. Or worse people realize how much he stole and hollowed out the country when he is out of power and moved to another country.

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
its probably about 50% crime related to drugs and 50% genetically predisposed to crime

@Philip.Kollberg
3 days ago
Amen

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
Some people should be tortured every day

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
Scotland’s just spent one billion pounds building a new prison

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 Eh yeah but you never where his prime minister tenure would be after 4 years. If he sells Hungary and makes it even in worse state than under Orban, then that’s very bad indeed.

MilosM.
3 days ago
Bridge on River Kwai is pretty great

MilosM.
3 days ago
But Restore’s results are not actively undermining the Conservative demise. The best and most likely outcome is Labour and Conservatives eventually eating each other out.

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@Germanicus
2 days ago
While it’d be hilarious to see the century-old political duopoly collapse in countries like the UK and US, people should realise, it doesn’t actually mean the elites have neen replaced or realigned (which is the only real mechanism of political change)

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
One of them was missing an eye

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
Lawrence of Arabia is pretty good.

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
Both made by the great David Lean

MilosM.
3 days ago
So far, the best option is to support the best one atm

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 No I can judge him already. He is a traitor. If he wasn’t he wouldn’t be in power. Jews would kill anyone taking power that would endanger jewish power and influence.

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
Shills can’t alienate their audience completely, which is why they will do those things, especially if it is just signaling that can be disavowed.

MilosM.
3 days ago
Unfortunately, there won’t ever be a viable political leader or a leader of a nationalist group who would be given some massive, mainstream platform to say all the right things. Some compromises will have to be made.

MilosM.
3 days ago
And once Tommy stood behind Sam Melia when the latter got arrested. But he wasn’t that of a shill then much.

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 Yes sadly though the new is still pretty early to be judged. And Orban indeed did some based things.

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 things like removing lgb flags are a brave thing because of the gov and it shows defiance but in the end the gov is the one that needs to be removed not just the flags. And Orban is the same as the new shabbos goy.

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 I rarely use telegram Lord Bebo has a large twitter account. So I mostly see it on twitter.

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 idk but if you have Telegram, I saw it on Lord Bebo channel

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago
Lánchíd

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 Nop I did see that they put the Lgb flags up on the Lanchid.

MilosM.
3 days ago
Carl is classical liberal who is pretty shy of questioning mainstream politics.

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 Ah cool. Hey have you seen that some folks in Budapest hung Hungarian flags in place where lgbt flags, I believe on a bridge?

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago
https://i.postimg.cc/kgmndh25/Uluru-Astro-Tour.jpg

EmptyLife
3 days ago
It’s an even stupider name when you do know what it means.

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 no In real life it is even more beautiful. I have seen it myself. It’s very different in real life. You have to do it at least once in your life. I have been camping in the bushland near Alice springs.

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 It’s the most beautiful country in the world. Wit real wild life. I had wild Cassowarys come up to me. Had dove with fish bigger than me and had seen sea snakes with the rings in real life.

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 Very nice but is the photo legit?

MilosM.
3 days ago

@0KT0BER:9 More like embarrassing himself.

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
The Merchant of Swindon will get his pound of flesh regardless

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.
This image does no justice to how beautiful is this in real life.
https://i.postimg.cc/GmhkzzbT/468419420-10160535857772671-4749960011641070774-n.jpg

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
hes a lot more switched on than i was at 16

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
hes only 16 and he got quite badly beaten up the other day for doing public debates

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 Have you traveled there? idk, desert sounds as pretty messed up place to me. Especially after watching some Ozzie mad pig killer film

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
i think people are being a bit harsh on young bob

0KT0BER
3 days ago
David’s been great holding out on X on the restore ziobots.

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
black shirt

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 Dudee!You have to go to Australia at least once. The desert sky is the most beautiful thing you will ever see. You can see galaxies.

MilosM.
3 days ago
Sick scumbags.

@Philip.Kollberg
3 days ago
why does Mark always wear black?

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makersnameplate
1 day ago
Have a guess.

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
A lot of parents have transsed their kids

New124
3 days ago
BTw it isnt even safe just out on the streets of britain nowadays. Be careful out there people. its now Riot Season, previously known as Summer.

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 This one guy won some boxing event. I would rather not travel to Australia. Expensive trip that goes for too long.

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

Repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/UnityNewsNet/status/2069847230928785432

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago
or they used to they are not allowed to associate.

ChuckGerety
3 days ago
They are risking lives just so they get their feel good giddies

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 They should invite you to one of the punchups. They do MMA matches constantly. maybe kickboxing as well.

New124
3 days ago
Jonty

MilosM.
3 days ago
Bears are less dangerous than some people.

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 Hahahaha, I already did to one of them.But we are friendly to one another so harsh feelings.

Obscure Truth
3 days ago
Unbelievable!

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
I was watching a documentary from the 70s inside strangeways. It is safer in there in the 70s than out here in 2026

New124
3 days ago
this is your brain on Leftism. they think everyoens the same. different races, even disableds.

ChuckGerety
3 days ago
Society must accept that there’s some who are unfit for civilized society

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
Even in a proper humongous society you would still have anti-socials, but they would either be put into a work camp or an institution if they are too far gone.

ChuckGerety
3 days ago
A guy like that needs to have a shock collar

@WASP_Supremacist
3 days ago
Police are coming to kill Mark because he said “retard” and his gues keeps saying “low IQ Africans.” RIP

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.
hahaha. Better not the NSN guys hear that! :joy:

New124
3 days ago

@MarkCollett:6 Mark, they also have a policy of rehousing these mental cases in rural areas. The Scottish islands are now honestly like ¼ loony bin. they think itd better for them etc and it actually just drags these sm all communities down. the carers are all grifter losers too

ChuckGerety
3 days ago
He looks dangerously unevolved

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 I thought that’s insult for Australians lol

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

Repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/UnityNewsNet/status/2069847230928785432

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
there are a lot of devils at heart

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago
crap

MilosM.
3 days ago

@Kultur_Rebell
You’d be in more luck to try kebab instead.

MilosM.
3 days ago
Girls and women, but especially girls, are wired to buy into feminist bs and that’s not only okay but as something to act and dress like men. I never understood the appeal of tomboys.

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
autist threw a kid off

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
tate gallery

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
they closed the mental institutions in the eighties and said wed have to live with them instead

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
I don’t I just want you to shut up

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
It was a 20 foot drop too apparently

MilosM.
3 days ago

@Kultur_Rebell
Why do you want kebab?

MilosM.
3 days ago

@0KT0BER:9 I don’t think so. it would make plenty of white nattionalists zog influenced
also Rupert says nothing malicious in that clip.

New124
3 days ago
gotta say tho i feel sorry for parents of daughters. esp the fathers. No thanks.

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
It would have been called a pogrom back then

Luther Sloan
3 days ago

@New124:3 Exactly.

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
I’m English. Onion and garlic sauce please.

New124
3 days ago
it was in ROTHERHAM too! the cops have let down the poor girls of rotherham before!

0KT0BER
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 Flat Earth originates with the judaic view of the world, the Talmud specifically

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
Are you a Tommy tard?

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@Kultur_Rebell
they make kebab from horrible offal in the UK

MilosM.
3 days ago

@Kultur_Rebell
you a muslim?

New124
3 days ago
Lets not get hung up on the dress choise. it is the height of summer as well btw. f
the police are evil.

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

Repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/UnityNewsNet/status/2069847230928785432

MilosM.
3 days ago

@0KT0BER:9 And you would believe in that Earth is flat if someone shows you the picture that Earth is flat.

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
Shut it and make me a kebab

0KT0BER
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 you’re as thick as pigshit

MilosM.
3 days ago

@Kultur_Rebell
Rupert and Nigel? definitely not. Though Nigel is in his own category of politician.

MilosM.
3 days ago

@0KT0BER:9 No I won’t because I saw enough of his bs to call it a bs in advance.

0KT0BER
3 days ago

@MilosM.
heres another
https://xcancel.com/SB_B99/status/2069778242790162667

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
So? Both ZOG cretins

MilosM.
3 days ago

@0KT0BER:9 David talks a lot on Rupert and Nigel without some empirical evidence to back up his criticisms if them.

0KT0BER
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 watch the clip shitstain

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
So?

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
Indeed

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
it was the police that escalated it

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
Pathetic coward pigs. Little men.

0KT0BER
3 days ago

@MilosM.
David (UNN) has just posted another clip, but this one says it all
https://xcancel.com/FSnype_gore/status/2069128179046842534

MilosM.
3 days ago
Girls were tw*ts here. But political consequences of this is something else.

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
the police treated it like it was a violent confrontation when it was just school girls

MilosM.
3 days ago

@0KT0BER:9 How? They are doing quite well. For a minor political party.

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
It is a handful of unruly girls, the police should be able to control the situation just by being there, but that is not how those officers see themselves or the girls for that matter.

MilosM.
3 days ago
Wait, girls didn’t mess up? I thought this is on them.

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
There was a recent video in Scotland of the police arresting a black guy who was resisting arrest by kicking and spitting on them and the police were dealing with the thing in the most gentle way

0KT0BER
3 days ago
Milos rupert and restore are a complete bust

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@MilosM.:9 Zdravo gospodine!

MilosM.
3 days ago
I heard that Rupert’s views
on X are not his own actually

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

Repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/UnityNewsNet/status/2069847230928785432

MilosM.
3 days ago
Rupert did indeed espouse some white supremacist views

0KT0BER
3 days ago
brave thin blue line

Karvakake
3 days ago
holy f

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
It is basically the Trump playbook, using the online radicals who are eager to embrace anyone who signals a little bit like them.

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
he might have a lot of positions that coincide with ours, but he doesnt see those as ethnat positions, just common sense positions

MilosM.
3 days ago
Multicultural society btw can be a totally European.

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
Rupert Lowe thinks Javier Milei has been terrific for Argentina…

MilosM.
3 days ago

@SvenLongshanks:9 He definitely has to. He doesn’t want to rock too many boats.

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
i havent seen him contradict himself, hes just diplomatic with his wording on big interviews

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
he says people who dont speak english will be deported and if you dont work, you will be removed from council housing and that is the same as saying if people dont integrate, they shouldnt be here

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
And the important thing is, those who like this online personality will keep supporting him even as he disavows them.

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
i think rupert has to be careful with his wording

@Bobbie
3 days ago
Restore is done.

Karvakake
3 days ago
Does UNN stream anywhere else than Rumble? I used to watch them on dlive

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
The “left” isn’t getting what it wants either, they marry unpopular stances with the good things.

MilosM.
3 days ago

@LutherSloan:2 Socialism is for fools

0KT0BER
3 days ago
up a khyber

@Theos19
3 days ago
most people are simple and easy to control by propaganda and narrative. We do not have control of the narrative, we will never rule until we do.

MilosM.
3 days ago

@utopia148800:6 Szia bro

Karvakake
3 days ago
hello o/

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
Nationalism goes hand in hand with Socialism.

New124
3 days ago
hope that UNN studio is air conditioned David

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
What does Restore and Reform offer people other than their mealy mouth stance on mass-migration?

Eldergoduk
3 days ago

@utopia148800
Only my basic tax :smile_1:

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

@Eldergoduk:6 Hello taxpayer!

Eldergoduk
3 days ago
Evening citizens

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
It is why they would much prefer to keep up the charade and just use soft power, but that is no longer possible.

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
It’s like that socialite who said if you’re not named in the Epstein Files then you’re a loser

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
Look at Egypt and other zogged up ME countries, they control their populations through hard power. It works, but it is a whole lot more unstable on a long enough timeline.

Criticalthinker2026
3 days ago

@VesselofGrace:b cheers mate

@noreplacement
3 days ago
Like Uncle strolling into Austria

Criticalthinker2026
3 days ago

@VesselofGrace:b I’ve had that for decades…i got a 666 tattooed on me chest

Prison Ships
3 days ago
Digital id is the brand of TheBeastSystem.

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
The reality of the worsening conditions hasn’t changed, so it will be hard to keep this going.

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
It is 100% a hoax based on an inversion of basic reality. Like everything else they do.

Secure the future of our people
3 days ago

Repost and like the Twitter if you can please!
https://x.com/UnityNewsNet/status/2069847230928785432

0KT0BER
3 days ago
roman vineyards at York too

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
Rivers full of plastic bottles

Kultur_Rebell
3 days ago
Clewsy I wish you would use this platform and not crappy Rumble

MilosM.
3 days ago
Greetings all

@theicebergmelts
3 days ago
A few months later a Malaysian Airlines was shot down flying over Ukraine

Obscure Truth
3 days ago
I think they found the tail of the plane if I’m not mistaken.

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
I remember that one, quite odd, but the ocean is a big place.

0KT0BER
3 days ago
they’re adding a good 4-5 degrees to the temp on the most trusted news

Illustr8r
3 days ago
Also on Odysee

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
o/

@SvenLongshanks
3 days ago
hello everyone

Luther Sloan
3 days ago
‘ello

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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript

Tony Gonzales: There are law enforcement officers that want to be enforcing our laws, and they’re not able to.

 

Elon Musk: Okay. They’re just not allowed to enforce laws.

 

Tony Gonzales: No, this is their new normal. Thousands of people every day!

 

Elon Musk: Thousands of people every day. Yeah. All right. Well, I can’t really switch around.

 

So anyway, that’s like, I don’t know if you can sort of see that group, but that’s a group there.

 

Obviously Elon here. I’m at Eagle Pass, just arrived. And we’re just going to go around and talk to the major officials and law enforcement and whatnot that are here and just kind of eyeball the situation, get a sense for what’s going on, so you can get the kind of, like, the real story.

 

This is real time, unfiltered. There’s no preconditions, no nothing. This is what you see is what I see.

 

So it could be, like, a little bit herky jerky at times, because this is not like a piece that’s being filmed and then subsequently edited. And whatnot. This is live. This is the raw feed you’re seeing right here.

 

All right. With that I should actually, let me preface this by also saying that as an immigrant to the United States, I’m extremely pro-immigrant. And I believe that we need a greatly expanded legal immigration system. And that we should let anyone in the country who is hardworking and honest and will be a contributor to the United States. We should have expedited legal approval for anyone who sort of falls in that category.

 

But then, by the same token, we should also not be allowing people in the country if they’re breaking the law! That doesn’t make sense. The law is there for a reason.

 

So I think we want to do both things. Smooth out legal immigration and then stop sort of a flow of people that is of such a magnitude that is actually leading to a collapse of social services. Where even America’s largest city, New York, is buckling under the pressure of just how many illegal immigrants are going to New York. If New York can’t handle it, well, pretty much no part of the country can.

 

So if we don’t do something soon, we’re just going to have, like I said, a collapse in social services, as we’re already seeing in New York.

 

So with that, let me move to introducing some of the people here. Just basically introduce yourself.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yeah. I’m Tony Gonzales. I’m the local Member of Congress here. I represent 823 miles of the southern border, 42% of the southern border, two thirds of the Texas-Mexico border. I really appreciate Elon coming down and giving an unfiltered depiction of what’s happening on the border.

 

We feel us along the border, we feel very abandoned. And there’s some solutions, some real solutions! A big part of this is being able to share stories that no one hears about.

 

So you’re going to hear from sheriffs, you’re going to hear from judges, ranchers and just see some other folks.

 

[03:14]

 

Elon Musk: Let’s just see if this [camera] is still working. Let’s see. Still working. I was a bit worried that so many people might go on it that it crashes.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yeah.

 

Elon Musk: We’re back live. So I uploaded like a 15 minutes video, but I think the cell connection here is not super good. It’d be helpful to have some Starlink maps.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yeah. There you go.

 

Elon Musk: I’ll be uploading the 15 minutes video as soon as I get a good connection. And hopefully this live stream is working reasonably well.

 

All right, well, let’s just continue. Sorry for the delay.

 

Tony Gonzalez: Yeah, no, that’s okay.

 

Let’s continue over here at the Border Patrol. Border Patrol. And you’ll see it, I mean, right here under the bridge, you’re seeing hundreds of people getting processed. And this is every single day!

 

And they’ll go to another soft sided facility that has thousands of people. Right now it’s over 5,000 people. Over here to the Right, literally under a bridge. A lot of trade happens here in the city.

 

Elon Musk: Okay, so it’s just sort of like that’s a bridge. And there’s like people getting processed and then they come across on the trains over there.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yeah, exactly! It’s like an initial intake spot and then they’ll send them through, but it’s nonstop all day long.

 

Have you noticed all the Border Patrol agents? The number one thing that Border Patrol agents ask of me is to get back out in the field. They don’t want to be here processing people. They want to be catching bad actors. And they’re not. And you’ve got dozens of them here.

 

And this is probably the biggest issue. If we can do that, then we keep America safe from Fentanyl and opioids and some of these things that are killing all Americans.

 

Elon Musk: Okay, just go over some of the numbers that we talked about in the video that I’ll upload later. There’s, roughly, correct me if I’m wrong, about two and a half million processed legals per year. And then it’s somewhat debatable how many are sort of unprocessed, but maybe it’s like in total close, maybe four or 5 million immigrants per year. This number has reached all time highs.

 

Tony Gonzales: All time highs!

 

Elon Musk: All time highs. And it’s continuing to increase?

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes.

 

Elon Musk: And nothing as far as you know, has been done about it at the federal level?

 

Tony Gonzales: Nothing! Simple things, common sense things that we can enact can make a difference today.

 

Simple things like raising the level of credible fear many people are seeking asylum are not going to qualify for asylum.

 

Elon Musk: Let’s move to where you can get a better, I don’t know, maybe like this way? I don’t know. Sure. Okay.

 

[05:54]

 

Tony Gonzales: Yeah. So right now, last month, there was over 200,000 people that came over illegally.

 

So that’s in the millions. You multiply that times twelve. Here you are, two and a half million people coming over. Most of the people that are seeking asylum are not going to qualify for asylum. Nine out of ten actually are not.

 

So one of the things that we can do is we can raise the asylum criteria.

 

Elon Musk: Now, an important point is that although, as you’re saying, basically 90% do not qualify for asylum, of the 90 percent that do not qualify for asylum, how many are sent back to the country of origin?

 

Tony Gonzales: Zero! I mean, here in this, …

 

Elon Musk: Okay that is a real point.

 

Tony Gonzales: In Del Rio sector alone, you have 2,500 people coming over illegally a day and zero sending back!

 

Elon Musk: Zero!

 

Tony Gonzales: Zero!

 

Elon Musk: Not even like ten? Not even, …

 

Tony Gonzales: Nothing! So what kind of signal does that send the rest of the world?

 

Elon Musk: Sure.

 

Tony Gonzales: Is this is where you need to come, and you’re not going to be sent back?

 

Elon Musk: Okay, so there’s basically no repercussions.

 

Tony Gonzales: No repercussions! That’s the number one thing that this administration has to do. Is there has to be some repercussions.

 

Now, it’s due process.

 

Elon Musk: Sure.

 

Tony Gonzales: Make sure that people get their day in court. That I’ve been advocating that one person that does qualify for asylum, we need to make sure that they don’t get sent back to certain death or anything like that. But the nine out of ten that don’t? I mean, there has to be repercussions.

 

And once you do that, Elon, this goes away!

 

Elon Musk: Yeah.

 

Tony Gonzales: It went away for Trump, it went away for Obama, it went away for Bush, it went away for Clinton. And they’re not willing to do that. And I don’t understand why.

 

Elon Musk: Well, when you reached out to the White House, what’s their response?

 

Tony Gonzales: Their response is:

 

“It is a political problem.”

 

Elon Musk: What does that mean, “political”?

 

Tony Gonzales: They think it’s, …, you know, the Republicans are blaming the Democrats. Democrats are blaming the Republicans.

 

Elon Musk: They think it’s not real?

 

Tony Gonzales: It’s not real. It’s a “political problem”.

 

Honestly, what’s working the most is these Mayors from these cities, they’re all many times Democrat, …

 

Elon Musk: Mayor of New York, in fact!

 

Tony Gonzales: Mayor of New York, very, …

 

Elon Musk: The governor of New York!

 

Tony Gonzales: The governor of New York! Exactly! The Mayor of El Paso, these places, anywhere, anything that, …

 

Elon Musk: This is not a partisan issue.

 

Tony Gonzales: It’s not. It’s a policy issue! It’s a policy issue! And we can be humane. And we can be all these things, and we can protect those that qualify for asylum, but we also need to have repercussions for people that don’t do!

 

[08:09]

 

Elon Musk: Sure. Exactly! I mean, we’re in this absurd situation where the vast majority of people are not, in fact, asylum seekers. You can actually read on Google in any language you want, what are the magic words you need to say.

And then you’re automatically in the asylum sort of queue, which takes several years before you actually see anyone. And then even if you do see one, even if you are denied, you are not deported.

 

Tony Gonzales: Exactly!

 

And once you do that, all that does is attract more people to come over illegally. And ultimately it undermines those that are trying to do it legally!

 

Elon Musk: Yeah. To be clear, we’re both very much in favor of expanded legal immigration.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yeah.

 

Elon Musk: I think anyone who is hardworking and honest should be, and it’s really going to add to, to be a net addition to the economy. I think we should let them in.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes.

 

Elon Musk: But I mean, what we’re seeing here are, in some cases, some pretty extreme individuals coming through.

 

Tony Gonzales: Sure.

 

Elon Musk: Obviously not suggesting everyone is like this, but you’re talking about a guy who came through who had face tatoos, including tears.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes.

 

Elon Musk: Had tattooed on his face.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes!

 

Elon Musk: When somebody tattoos a tear, it means that they have murdered someone, and they are so proud of having murdered someone that they tattoo one tear on their face for every person that they kill. Is that correct?

 

Tony Gonzales: That’s exactly right.

 

Elon Musk: And this person just claimed asylum?

 

Tony Gonzales: Claimed asylum.

 

Elon Musk: And we just let them in?

 

Tony Gonzales: We let them in.

 

Elon Musk: Again, a serial murderer!

 

Tony Gonzales: Exactly!

 

Elon Musk: Who is proud of their murders!

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes.

 

Elon Musk: This is insane!

 

Tony Gonzales: The other piece of it, too, is many of these people are coming from Central and South America, where culturally, it is not acceptable to have tattoos at all. Period!

 

Elon Musk: Right, so it’s a big deal.

 

Tony Gonzales: It’s a big deal to have a tattoo. It’s an even bigger deal to have a neck tattoo and a face tatoo! That means it’s almost certain that you are culturally unacceptable wherever you came from.

 

So there’s a lot of red flag issues that are glaring. These are people that nobody should want in their communities.

 

I mean, I’m talking bad actors. I’m talking, …

 

Elon Musk: Yeah. It’s safe to say that if somebody is a multiple murderer and proud of it, tattooing it on the face, they’re unrepentant, to say the least.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes!

 

Elon Musk: It’s not like they try to get the tattoo removed.

 

Tony Gonzales: Right.

 

Elon Musk: And most likely, if they were murdering people somewhere else and proud of it, they will continue in that tradition.

 

Tony Gonzales: That’s exactly right.

 

Elon Musk: Yeah.

 

Tony Gonzales: I was in West Texas, 300 miles from the border in my district, and there was a sheriff that told me a story where two folks had come over illegally from Cuba, and they were working in the oil and gas industry. They’re making money, and they were going to go buy a truck and basically start a company in their own.

 

And the plan was both of you put $30,000 to go buy this truck. They’re friends. They come together. The one friend shows his $30,000, and the other friend murders him. Murders him! Takes his money, dismembers his body, …

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: Spreads it everywhere. And that’s a friend! I mean, what I’m getting at, …

 

Elon Musk: I would say that’s not much of a friend.

 

Tony Gonzales: That’s not much of a friend. If you’re willing to do that to somebody, like, …

 

[11:09]

 

Elon Musk: Full on, like Breaking Bad situation.

 

Tony Gonzales: Exactly! You just don’t know. And that’s what people are scared! People in American, citizens are scared! They just don’t feel safe. They don’t know who these people are. They don’t want to assume. But they also don’t want to not assume. They have children. It’s a safety issue.

 

Elon Musk: Okay. And not only is there no end of sight, but this issue is accelerating rapidly.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes! Yes! And it’s getting worse! Many people that are coming over now, before, they would have someone in the United States to go to, or they would have money. The folks that are coming over now are impoverished. They have no money, and they have nowhere to go.

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: So they’re trying to scrape together some money to take a bus trip to the next destination, if you will. It’s a bad situation all the way around sand a large part of it is because the administration is attracting these folks to come knowing full well they’re not going to have any of the, … It’s a dead end road that they’re going down.

 

Elon Musk: This sounds like complete madness.

 

Tony Gonzales: It is!

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: Imagine if you have to live it every day! Not only is it getting mad, it’s becoming normal! That is what I worry about.

 

Elon Musk: Normalizing insanity!

 

Tony Gonzales: That is why.

 

Elon Musk: You’re living in a clown world here!

 

Tony Gonzales: Ha, ha! You coming down was so important! Does this look normal to you? Does any of this look normal?

 

Elon Musk: Well, and the train that’s coming across, that’s basically where people hop on top of the train and.

 

Tony Gonzales: Hop on top of the train.

 

Elon Musk: Let’s see. I think the sheriff was, … I don’t know if the Sheriff’s still here? But you’re telling us about how they’re really pretty expert at sort of turning the brakes on the train.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes.

 

Elon Musk: So it’s dialed, basically.

 

Tony Gonzales: It is. You’ve got real commerce mixed in with illegal traffic, and so it muddies the situation for everybody.

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: How about, what can we do about it?

 

Elon Musk: Yeah, what can we do about it?

 

Tony Gonzales: What can we do about, how does this end? We have a government.

 

Elon Musk: Yeah, we have a crisis. What’s the recommendation?

 

[13:05]

 

Tony Gonzales: We have a government that’s about to shut down, and it’s going to shut down. I think there’s an opportunity if we can reopen the government and there be real solutions attached with some border security measures in there, that are non-partisan.

 

I’m not talking really crazy stuff one way or another. I’m talking something everybody can agree on. This could be a win-win for America. We just need the Right package to be crafted with some sensible things. You raise the level of credible fear. You turn on the repatriation flights. So at least some people that are coming over, …

 

Elon Musk: Above zero.

 

Tony Gonzales: Above zero would be a good start!

 

And then the immigration judges are so critical to it. You surge immigration judges, and that way when somebody comes in, they get their case heard immediately, not seven years from now.

 

You do that for a month, and all of a sudden the words out:

 

“Hey, the border is closed! Go through another route.”

 

Elon Musk: Okay, let’s see. Hey, guys! [media people] How’s it going?

 

Sheriff’s been obviously busy, so I don’t know if they’re still here or anything or they have to go. Yeah, they have to take off. Okay, well, I think I got them on recording.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yeah.

 

Elon Musk: All right. What else do you think we should do?

 

Tony Gonzales: How about some Border Patrol agents?

 

Elon Musk: Okay, sure.

 

Tony Gonzales: These are Federal because that was from the county standpoint.

 

Elon Musk: Hey, guys, are you cool being on camera at all?

 

Federal guy: We’re not, …

 

Elon Musk: Okay. Don’t worry about it. Sure. The camera is pointed at me, so don’t worry about it.

 

Federal guy: Thank you. Thank you man.

 

Elon Musk: All right.

 

Tony Gonzales: This is the part where a lot of folks are frustrated because they want to be working.

 

Elon Musk: Sure.

 

Tony Gonzales: I mean, they’re law enforcement officers that want to be enforcing our laws, and they’re not able to.

 

Elon Musk: Okay. They’re just not allowed to enforce laws?

 

Tony Gonzales: No. This is their new normal, and that is not a long term winning strategy for a positive part of the Border Patrol, Customs and Border Protection.

 

Elon Musk: Okay. Well, anyone else we think we can talk to?

 

Tony Gonzales: I think we’ve, … Let’s walk a little bit further down this way. I think the part that, … This is a golf course.

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: So to the Left, you have a golf course, an actual functioning golf course.

 

Elon Musk: Sure.

 

Tony Gonzalez: And to the Right, you have a processing center, a mobile processing center.

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: The other piece of it, too, is the transportation. Like, how does this all work? Well, you got to have water. You got to have food. You got to have vehicles, buses. None of that is free. Somebody has to pay for that. And who’s paying for it is oftentimes the Mayor, or the county, or Border Patrol agents or Customs and Border Protection is paying for buses instead of something else.

 

[15:54]

 

Elon Musk: Okay. These people are all waiting to get processed, right? Sure.

 

Hey, guys. How’s it going?

 

Tony Gonzales: This is the shot right here.

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: These people you see how orderly it is?

 

Elon Musk: Yeah. It’s very orderly.

 

Tony Gonzales: It’s like an orderly, chaotic, unruly event that’s happening.

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: And it’s wrong! It’s wrong for everybody involved.

 

Elon Musk: Sure.

 

Tony Gonzales: We’re not talking one or two people. We’re talking thousands of people every day!

 

Elon Musk: Thousands of people every day. Yeah. All right. Okay. I’m going to end the live stream now.

 

[And now here’s the 15 min video Elon mentioned.]

 

Tony Gonzales: The first person I’d like to hear from is Randy Brown, who is the sheriff of Medina County. It’s about an hour away from, about 100 miles away from here, and Randy’s behind us now. You want to come over here, Randy? And just the question I have is, what’s happening in your county?

 

Elon Musk: And just imagine, like, you’re just talking to America here, and people just want to understand exactly what’s going on, but assume that people do not know what’s going on.

 

Randy: Well, you got to go back sometime. And whenever the open border policies from the White House kind of got thrown out there, we’ve been overrun.

 

Elon Musk: How long ago was that?

 

Randy: What year was that?

 

Tony Gonzales: Two years ago.

 

Randy: Two years ago. We’ve been battling it for two years.

 

Elon Musk: Okay. So you’re saying there’s been an open border policy essentially for the past two years?

 

Randy: It was an invitation.

 

Elon Musk: An invitation?

 

Randy: That’s how I read it! That’s how it was told from the White House.

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Randy: They don’t have a clue what’s going on here, I don’t think. Because if they did, maybe they would care. Maybe they wouldn’t. I don’t know.

 

Tony Gonzales: How does the train impact you? Because the trains have been a big story lately. Just over here. This is kind of where it starts, Elon, where you see all these thousands of people on a train. This is where they’re coming through. But it doesn’t end here. It just starts here.

 

Elon Musk: Yeah.

 

Tony Gonzales: Medina county is where they’re going to make it to the big cities like Pen,…

 

Randy: Two major rail lines come through my county and on those illegals rides. They actually control the trains because they know how to crank down the brake on the car. So when it passes a heat sensor, the conductor has to stop the train. Then the illegals get off, the people come to get them. And all the stolen vehicles are stealing from all over the country. Nearly every one of them is in a stolen vehicle.

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Randy: So then we get involved. And then they’re trespassing on private property.

 

[18:21]

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Randy: And when you do get behind one of them, they run through fences, they run over equipment. Irrigation stuff is important to the farmers. They run over their equipment. They tear it up. We tear up vehicles trying to hold a line. We’re trying to hold the line 100 miles away. Because the line is not getting held here!

 

It’s not that complicated to close the border! Really isn’t! And that’s the aggravating part. I think any sheriff will tell you the same thing!

 

Elon Musk: All right. Well, again, just assume that this is really just for the general public.

 

And so we want to just frame the situation because not everyone knows magnitude. And is this normal, or is it like, … So just if you could just frame the situation for the general public that would be helpful.

 

Tony Gonzales: What terrifies me the most is we’re seeing historic numbers. Historic! 11,000 people coming over daily for the past week! Here in Eagle Pass alone, 2,500 people. Over 5,000 people in detention.

 

But what worries me the most is this in many cases feels normal. The part that doesn’t make it out on some of the news stuff is there is a golf course. We’re literally standing in front of a golf course, and you have people playing golf as if it is normal. To the Right you have people that are coming over illegally. It is upside down!

 

And like Elon said earlier, I believe in legal immigration. I think legal immigration is important.

 

And what happens is when you grant people that have come over illegally these different opportunities, you completely undermine,

 

Elon Musk: Like the stuff we were talking about in the car, the magnitude of the situation.

 

Tony Gonzales: Magnitude of it! Yeah.

 

Elon Musk: The fact that we are seeing all time highs in illegal processing, and that ramp is increasing!

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes!

 

Elon Musk: So these are really important points. Because the public isn’t, … I think it’s not necessarily clear to the public. Is this normal? Or are we seeing an accelerating crisis?

 

Tony Gonzales: It’s not getting better. It’s getting worse! Last Friday, a week ago was a historic number! 11,000 people that came over.

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: And then on Monday that number increased. Today is Thursday and that number increased! We’re only going in the wrong direction. This is a week. What happens two weeks from now, it’s the wrong way!

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

So basically we’re seeing unprecedented all time highs, and increasing!

 

Tony Gonzales: And spreading. It’s not in just one area. Like it’s not just one city or one town and not even one state anymore. We’re talking about New York today, but Chicago, you’re hearing it there. LA, Denver, there’s all these other places where it’s just spreading, just continues to get bubbling up.

 

Elon Musk: And just to quantify it, I think you said 2,000 a day or something. Just in this location?

 

Tony Gonzales: Yeah, just here!

 

[21:12]

 

Elon Musk: That’s like over 700,000 a year?

 

Tony Gonzales: Just in this one location! Yeah.

 

Elon Musk: Okay. 700,000 illegal immigrants a year, just in this one location?

 

Tony Gonzales: Just in this one location!

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: El Paso right now. In El Paso.

 

Elon Musk: Yeah. That’s higher than the population of Wyoming by far.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes.

 

Elon Musk: Okay. And that’s just one location. What is the total number from all locations, roughly, per year?

 

Tony Gonzales: In the millions. I mean, it’s literally millions!

 

Elon Musk: Millions?

 

Tony Gonzales: Millions! And those are just for the folks that we know have engaged. What about all the others?

 

Elon Musk: That’s just who was actually processed?

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes! The gotaways are the ones, …

 

Elon Musk: Yeah. So meaning that the actual number is much higher.

 

Tony Gonzales: Much higher!

 

Elon Musk: Okay. That’s very important people to know that the actual number is much higher. Is the official number something like 2 million or something, or where is it?

 

Tony Gonzales: It varies and it depends on who you ask. But I’ve seen it as high as 2.6 million. And that number just every year for the past three years has almost doubled. It was like 1.1.

 

Elon Musk: Doubling year after year.

 

Tony Gonzales: Doubling year after year. It’s compounding year after year because it’s not just one part of the world either. It’s all parts of the world that are coming! In El Paso, …

 

Elon Musk: I think that’s actually important point to make because sometimes people think, well, people are coming from Mexico, but this is not the case.

 

Tony Gonzalez: No. Not the case at all.

 

Elon Musk: The reality is that this is an open border for all of Earth!

 

Tony Gonzales: All of Earth.

 

Elon Musk: So there’s roughly 350,000,000 people in the US. But there’s 8 billion people on Earth!

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes.

 

Elon Musk: This is an open border to 8 billion people!

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes.

 

Elon Musk: In fact, I believe a small minority, it’s a small percentage that are actually coming from Mexico?

 

Tony Gonzales: Yeah.

 

Elon Musk: That are Mexican?

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes. That’s true.

 

Elon Musk: Okay.

 

Tony Gonzales: Sheriff Duche, how close are you the border? 60 miles?

 

Sheriff Duche: 68 miles from the border.

 

Tony Gonzales: 68 miles from the border.

 

Sheriff Duche: That’s right.

 

Tony Gonzales: What type of nationalities are coming through your county?

 

Sheriff Duche: We’re seeing anywhere from Honduras, El Salvador. I believe, Ecuador and stuff like that even, …

 

Elon Musk: That’s pretty much every country, right?

 

Sheriff Duche: Pretty much every country.

 

Elon Musk: Yeah.

 

Sheriff Duche: It’s very rare that we see anybody just from Mexico.

 

Elon Musk: Oh, it’s actually rare to see anyone from Mexico?

 

[23:25]

 

Sheriff Duche: And I’m 68 miles from the border. I’m 80 miles south of here.

 

Tony Gonzales: How big is your workforce? How big is the sheriff’s office?

 

Sheriff Duche: My patrol staff is only 16 strong, 16 total.

 

Tony Gonzales: Okay, so how many do you have on call at one time?

 

Sheriff Duche: Maybe two at the most.

 

Tony Gonzales: Two law enforcement officers to tackle, … I mean, some of these counties that I represent, there’s size of states and they’ve got two or three people trying to tackle it all. This is where the local community just feel completely overwhelmed because Border Patrol agents used to be the front line and now they’re here, they’re under the bridge, they’re processing folks. So they’re completely out of the game. So these law enforcement, the local law enforcement officers are carrying all the weight.

 

Sheriff Duche: My county alone is 1500 sq miles.

 

Elon Musk: Right.

 

So it’s not possible really.

 

Sheriff Duche: Very difficult to handle.

 

Elon Musk: Yeah. Okay. It’s worth going over a bunch of things that you mentioned to me, which is like there’s almost no repatriation. This is another thing that I found surprising.

 

So basically once somebody gets in, they’re in! Essentially there’s in theory, repatriation, in theory flying back. And I believe he talked to the President of Guatemala and asked him, will they take people back? And he said:

 

“Of course.”

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes. He said:

 

“I’ll take every single one of them.”

 

Elon Musk: Yeah, no problem.

 

Tony Gonzales: No problem. All you got to do is ask. Just call.

 

Elon Musk: The White House just needs to call.

 

Tony Gonzales: Exactly!

 

Elon Musk: Seems like that’s like not a difficult thing. [chuckling]

 

Tony Gonzales: Elon. Every White House has done that. Whether it was Trump, whether it was Obama, whether it was Clinton, whether it was Bush. Every single White House has had a border issue and every single one has had to handle it the same way. By essentially going:

 

“We can’t let everybody in because it’s going to overwhelm us. You’re going to abide by the laws and if you don’t qualify for asylum, we’re going to send you back.”

 

And as soon as you start doing that, it alleviates the stress. This administration hasn’t done that yet.

 

Elon Musk: Okay. Of the sort of roughly two and a half million that processed illegals and then it’s maybe as much as twice double that or something. I don’t know.

 

Tony Gonzales: Double that.

 

Elon Musk: Call it like fourish million, maybe 5 million total processed and non-processed. How many of the four or 5 million illegal immigrants are sent back to their countries every year?

 

Tony Gonzales: I’ll give you an example. Here in Del Rio. Del Rio sector is one of nine sectors, okay. We’re getting over about 2,500 people coming over illegally a day and we are repatriating or sending zero back! Zero!

 

Elon Musk: Zero?

 

Tony Gonzales: Zero!

 

Elon Musk: Zero is quite a small number!

 

Tony Gonzales: Exactly! [chuckling]

 

Elon Musk: Okay. Just literally zero!

 

Tony Gonzalez: Zero!

 

Elon Musk: So basically there’s no repatriation?

 

Tony Gonzales: What is happening is, …

 

Elon Musk: This is insane!

 

Tony Gonzales: What is happening is at best they will send people to other parts of the border. That’s back to where the country of origin. That’s de Laredo or El Paso in worst case scenario, and I want to bring in the Mayor here. The worst case scenario is where they’re at. You bubble to a point where there’s nowhere else to send them. So what you end up doing is you release them into the street.

 

Imagine what that does to your local community. This is the Mayor of Eagle Pass.

 

Elon Musk: Hi, how you doing?

 

Tolando Salina: Tolando Salina, the Mayor of the city of Eagle Pass. And it’s been a rough, …

 

[26:50]

 

Elon Musk: Nice town.

 

Tolando Salina: Thank you.

 

Elon Musk: Yeah, just FYI, in case people are wondering whether Eagle Pass is like a rundown town, it’s actually really clean and nice. Just FYI.

 

Tolando Salina: Thank you so much!

 

We’re a city of 28,000 people, and we’ve had 19,000, …

 

Elon Musk: Sorry, maybe turn the camera, I suppose.

 

Tolando Salina: A city of 28,000 people.

 

We’ve had over 19,000 people in the last about ten days come in. So we don’t have the resources.

 

Elon Musk: Wait, more people are coming in by far, it’s exceeding the population of the town on a regular basis?

 

Tolando Salina: Absolutely! We don’t have the resources.

 

Tony Gonzales: Will you talk about the hospital?

 

Tolando Salina: Absolutely!

 

Tony Gonzales: I think that’s a piece that a lot of people are missing.

 

Tolando Salina: Eagle Pass has one hospital, so you have thousands of people visiting this hospital. People are getting frustrated. The safety is taking a toll. People can’t get medical care, our local constituents, because they’re treating people that are coming in from other countries.

 

Elon Musk: Yeah, there’s only so many doctors.

 

Tolando Salina: There’s only so many doctors. Only so much we can do. The thing is, they’re coming in without consequence, and the word gets out back to their countries:

 

“Hey, come to the US! Come to Eagle Pass!”

 

Come one, come all kind of situation. And it’s disappointing that we don’t have a reform or we can solve this issue.

 

Tony Gonzales: The other thing about this too Elon, is it should not be a partisan issue. I get it. The politics in it,

 

Elon Musk: Yeah, there’s certainly a temptation to make it a partisan issue.

 

Tony Gonzales: 100%!

 

But this is across the board. I don’t care if you’re a D, an R, if you vote, don’t vote, urban America, rural America, everybody’s impacted the same way. When the crisis hits your town, it’s like a hurricane. When a hurricane hits you, everybody gets washed out, and it’s no different.

 

So I think there’s an opportunity here if we can message it in a manner, … This is about solutions. Hey, I get the finger pointing. It’s easy to say why we got here. It’s like, how do we just get out of here? And I think there are some real tangible solutions.

 

Elon Musk: Okay, so I guess the first part of this video, and I’ll take a minute to upload it once it’s done sure. Is just to frame the problem so American people understand the magnitude of the problem, how quickly it is growing, and that there is basically no solution currently being implemented.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes.

 

[28:57]

 

Elon Musk: Okay. And just to understand. You were telling me sometimes people coming through, they have gang tattoos, and they have the tear tattoo on the part. I’m not sure. Maybe everyone knows what tattooing a tear on your face means.

 

Tony Gonzales: It’s not good!

 

Elon Musk: It’s not good!

 

Tony Gonzales: I visited the facility here in Eagle Pass on Monday, and there was a guy that had face and neck tattoos, hand tattoos, and he had teardrops.

 

Elon Musk: A teardrop is when you kill someone.

 

Tony Gonzales: When you kill someone, and then you wear it as like a, …

 

Elon Musk: As a badge of pride! You’re actually happy that you’ve killed someone, and you want people to know it.

 

Tony Gonzales: Right!

 

Elon Musk: And when someone like that comes through and they say they’re an asylum seeker, what do we do?

 

Tony Gonzales: So I’m in there, and I asked the Border Patrol chief, …

 

Elon Musk: We’re talking about, basically a serial murderer.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes. Because he has multiple, …

 

Elon Musk: A serial murderer and proud of it!

 

Tony Gonzales: Yes. This is not somebody you want baby-sitting, …

 

Elon Musk: Not subtle.

 

Tony Gonzales: No, not at all!

 

And so when I asked the Border Patrol chief, I go:

 

“Hey, what’s up with this guy?”

 

And he asked him in Spanish, he goes:

 

“Hey, have you ever been arrested before?”

 

He goes:

 

“Oh, of course not.”

 

And he’s like:

 

“No, no! I’ve never been arrested.”

 

And so what the Border Patrol chief said, he goes, we do not have records from people from Venezuela.

So we can’t track. Unless they were arrested in the United States we really don’t know who some of these actors are. Many people you’ll see are fleeing poverty. I get that.

 

Elon Musk: Sure.

 

Tony Gonzales: But there are others that are fleeing incarceration.

 

Elon Musk: Yes, we are basically, it seems like the place where you can go to get away from the law.

 

Tony Gonzales: Yeah.

 

Elon Musk: Okay, well, I think with that, I see kind of a group over there that’s coming in. So I don’t know if you could really see it. I’ll try to switch it around.

 

Well, I can’t really switch around.

 

So anyway, that’s like, I don’t know if you can sort of see that group, but that’s a group there.

 

[Elon’s recording just ends here.]

 

[31:28]

 

 

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(Comments as of 9/30/2023 = 244)

@wenyulian9584
21 hours ago
It got to be stopped! 100% agree with Elon.
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@rogerstarkey5390
15 hours ago
Got to be CHANGED.
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@user-vv4om8cd6r
21 hours ago
So Elon is doing what our President and Vice President won’t do – seeing the border for himself and asking intelligent questions.
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16 replies

@rampz826
21 hours ago (edited)
Not a good idea when he owns Tesla and we are depending on it for our future. I want people who have a high following to speak on certain topics and if I wasn’t investing in Tesla I would be supporting him for this but he’s gonna get himself canceled
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@plantstho6599
19 hours ago
Vote Musk
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@ULTRAPRAGMATIST-gd2se
17 hours ago
Too bad his hats on backwards
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@mathijs9365
15 hours ago
Sorry. Elon is not the Messiah.

@stacywalker
15 hours ago (edited)
@rampz826 he can’t get canceled when he owns his own social media, space company, tech/car company, digging company, brain chip company, and now new Ai company. Too many ways for him to stay relevant and important to be canceled
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@yehimstone5492
14 hours ago
​ @rampz826 Elon is gaining 76 million conservative fans
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@ken-mb5cp
8 hours ago
@mathijs9365 No one said he was.

@rayarias7127
8 hours ago
@rampz826 do you really think that Elon has to be in the Factories 24/7 for business continue? Since you are an investor, be patience, or you just want result now, now? If you are, better get off investing in the stock market.

@rampz826
8 hours ago
@rayarias7127 I’m not saying he has to be in the factory 24/7 im saying him getting Involved in politics will get him canceled .. learn to read before you speak

@rampz826
8 hours ago
@stacywalker yes he can people would just stop using his companies and they will go bust

@rampz826
6 hours ago
@rayarias7127 someone called mehdi Hassan is literally trying to get Elon musk canceled over offensive tweets as we speak I’ve just saw it then so you were wrong

@sarahsalter530
6 hours ago
@ULTRAPRAGMATIST-gd2se maybe he prefers that way

@stacywalker
6 hours ago (edited)
@rampz826 do you think people think like social media In Real life? You can’t simply stop using his satellite internet Starlink in rural areas, or his rockets for payload to NASA, or his cars (because they are still the best EVs) the world doesn’t just revolve around “social outrage” people have a need for products even if they don’t like the CEO
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@CC-yr2nx
21 hours ago
Elon is fantastic. The courage it takes to do this is incredible! Bravo!!!
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@54woodsgirl
9 hours ago
He cares. About usa. About people. Everything

@ken-mb5cp
9 hours ago (edited)
@54woodsgirl He should go talk to the immigrants as well. Most are probably good people. With bodyguards of course.

@54woodsgirl
9 hours ago
We’re a nation of laws and we need to be following our laws, so yes, I’m sure Elaine would be happy to talk to the immigrants, but the law still needs to be followed and it’s not

@ken-mb5cp
8 hours ago
@54woodsgirl Sure we need to weed out the bad ones.

@bobbyvu9083
19 hours ago
I can’t believe that any ordinary people could hate Elon.
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@engr_e
3 hours ago
You said the key word….Ordinary. The haters are npcs.

@user-fg7kq8gk9e
20 hours ago
Matt, thanks for showing this important video. It’s good that Elon showed this and asked questions and clarified his understanding for the audience watching. This is not and should not be a partisan issue and needs to be resolved in a non-partisan way. The sooner the better!
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@mikegagnon1
20 hours ago
I cannot believe how amazing Elon is.
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3 replies

@ibberman
19 hours ago (edited)
He’s way too gentle on the numbers. Talk to Victor Davis Hanson.
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@ULTRAPRAGMATIST-gd2se
17 hours ago
VDH rules
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@clydedeloach9066
19 hours ago
Matt, Thanks for distributing this investigative inquiry by Elon Musk. It is both disturbing and informative at the same time.
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@rodneypayne9516
21 hours ago
Raw, live truth, so refreshing to see first hand, no agenda, no editing, no narrative.
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@mikef888au1
18 hours ago
BRAVO! Telling the truth and 100% transparency.
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@ThailandTerry2024
20 hours ago
Too bad Elon is foreign born. He’s a multi-corporation CEO and he could easily run this country. Musk love for America is well documented as well as professed. Musk believes in democracy and in America’s positive future …
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@cherylnagy126
12 hours ago
Elon for Governor of New York

@ken-mb5cp
8 hours ago
When someone asked him if he could be president he said “not officially”.

@cherylnagy126
8 hours ago

@leonardsensui7835
20 hours ago
Thank you Matt for your great effort to provide valuable information tp your viewers!
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@tomdarling8358
20 hours ago
I love Elon! Recognize the problem and apply first principles. Unfortunately, I see this as just the beginning of the migration issues. The storms are becoming bigger they show up more often. Earthquakes destroying places that have survived for thousands of years Gone of flat… Fires ripping rapid like never seen before. Hurricanes tsunami’s, it’s all coming. Bigger, stronger, more frequent than ever before.. For every degree of temperature increase.
How much more does it multiply the odds of a major storm? Parts of the florida keys at 101 degrees. What fish. Pesticides and chemicals in our water. Wonder why so many people have cancer. I don’t mean to be the preacher of doom and gloom, but I have a feeling it’s going to get worse. Millions and millions of people are going to try and make their way here. They see us as some sort of sanctuary in a world of chaos. Good or bad actors, everyone should have to check in. Does anybody remember what it says at the bottom of the statue of liberty? Army corps of engineers better get their shit together. There are waves of people coming. Hundreds of millions… So far, it’s just been a trickle.. .. . Thank you, Elon, for taking us along for the ride.
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@jamesmarshall3311
13 hours ago
Europe is being deluged in the same way. Any advanced Western country is feeling the same heat.
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@ken-mb5cp
8 hours ago
Chill out. Take a walk.

@daninspires
20 hours ago
What will work… is to help make the economy better for the countries where immigrants are coming from!
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@vincentdeleonjr1039
18 hours ago
thank you Elon for being you
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@williamschaefer4462
22 hours ago
Go Elon!!!
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@teslanewstonight
14 hours ago
This is absolutely incredible. The change is happening. Elon is leading the charge.
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@ken-mb5cp
8 hours ago (edited)
Change to what? This is because of economic inequality. These people are desperate and have nothing to lose. Just try to weed out the bad ones. Good for Elon to go there.

@mikeford3859
3 hours ago
Elon has done some pretty incredible things. Hope he can make a difference with this situation.
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@olegprytula2881
21 hours ago
Elon will come and put things in order
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@tedmoss
21 hours ago
No, he will draw attention to the problem, it is up to the voters to solve the problem.
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@AztecAryan
19 hours ago
​ @tedmoss as if we have the power to do that

@olegprytula2881
18 hours ago (edited)
@tedmoss The voters has choice:
Who is first
Creator Entrepreneur or politician parasite
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@vincentcorreia5714
19 hours ago
I would emigrate legally if the USA would make it easier. I would contribute and currently work hard
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@stacywalker
15 hours ago
That’s part of the problem. Yes, it should be easier. 5 years tops for first time people (some people wait 20 years)
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@Vagabond-Sanctuary
12 hours ago
Many Americans feel the same about the opposite.
Every country has requirements.
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@ken-mb5cp
8 hours ago
@Vagabond-Sanctuary The grass is always greener…

@michaelDsherman
6 hours ago
Guy wasn’t even elected to office and has done way more for this country than most politicians
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@rayarias7127
9 hours ago
Thank 6OU Matt, this is a great eye opening video that SHOULD BE WATCHED by everyone in America. And we still have another year of this crap to follow trill the hopefully a better administration that will address the problem and looks for solutions.
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@ken-mb5cp
8 hours ago
Let’s get a moderate sane candidate. Not Trump or Biden.

@goodbooks5134
12 hours ago
It took me over 10 years to go through the process to come to America… I thank God for that and love this land of opportunity! I noticed some of those (not all) who came to America without going through the process say how bad America is… which doesn’t make any sense.
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@davemilke3110
20 hours ago
Clarity about the US/MEX where I would have least expected it. WOW!
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@Betrue875
11 hours ago (edited)
I don’t want to turn MP’s youtube channel into a political discussion, but I applaud Elon for wanting to visit the border and give a unadulterated description of the truth of how bad things are under this administration. Crime in communities that never had crime before is on the rise at an alarming rate. It is an undeclared war agains America!
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@jimfischman-xg4qw
19 hours ago
VOTE: Only way to solve these issues, do it in person.
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@poker4400
14 hours ago
I’ve always said it’s illegal to hire Illegals. Yet farmers, hotel chains, construction companies, etc. Hire them every day. Why do they not get in trouble for this??? They would not be here if the money wasn’t available.
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@tom19482001
3 hours ago
This is the most informative coverage I have ever seen about the crisis at the southern border. I hope the government will change its policies right away so that we can stop the flow of illegal immigration and start allowing legal immigrants into our country. Thank you Matt, for posting this video.

@bobbygilstrap9221
21 hours ago
That’s awesome, watching
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@brianreinicke9490
11 hours ago
Great video! I searched and everyone else only has tiny, tiny fraction of Elon’s live stream.
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@user-mi3pv7ql4g
21 hours ago
Fine the people that pay illegals.Make the fine very high for anyone – any company that pays them. No job, no money, no come here. But who is used the cheap labor?
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@takenoshortcuts
19 hours ago
Put on their shoes

@54woodsgirl
9 hours ago
Elon. Awesome of you to do this
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@0n1r0t
18 hours ago
That’s complete madness. How is the local community/county feeding them? That’s a lot of mouth to feed. Best temporary solution is to set them up in an open land and make them cultivate the land and plant food and raise chickens.
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@larropowell3658
8 hours ago
And Elon talks about a population decreasing problem. Across the planet.

@danbelainsky1650
20 hours ago
WTF did i just watch … LOVE IT!
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@luluh1154
12 hours ago
He is so generous, he will let in that ONE

@MrAlanfalk73
15 hours ago
This is how a civilisation collapses !
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@juanabosch7827
10 hours ago
ELON LUCHA POR IMIGRANTE HACIA UN FUTURO MEJOR…

@JG-fi8sq
7 hours ago
Savage said it years ago, “Borders, Laungage, Culture”. Im concerned for my grandchildrens future.

@svenderikelgaard4727
13 hours ago
Hi Elon. Great topic. try landscape video next time. you have a big head covering what you want to show
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@michelangelobuonarroti916
19 hours ago
Why didn’t he bring someone who knows how to take video.
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@teslanewstonight
14 hours ago
He didn’t ask me.

@davdin2
21 hours ago
Elon should know landscape. He also needs an i phome 15.
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@Cybertruck1000
21 hours ago
Can we club together and get him a selfie stick?
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@jeffharrison6059
20 hours ago
I think Periscope is only portrait.

@zdme4864
20 hours ago
yes turn the phone to landscape elon!

@ULTRAPRAGMATIST-gd2se
17 hours ago
Too bad his hats on backwards
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@juanabosch7827
10 hours ago
ELONGACIÓN HACÍA UN FUTURO MEJOR

@chraismew
12 hours ago
Please fly over to Europe as well while you’re at it
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@cherylnagy126
13 hours ago (edited)
rather than antifa black, I prefer Royal Purple, Burgundy Red, Midnight Blue (rock that hat in one of those colors, would be amazing)

@SportsbookAssassin15
7 hours ago
ALL HAIL MEGA MUSK.

@georgelewis8831
18 hours ago
They should limit residency to certain states so no state has too many. They should fingerprint so we know if certain states are sending them to other states and charge those states for the costs
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@lasvegasbound6167
20 hours ago
Help, please, Elon. Tell them that THEIR jobs are in MEXICO. Some place called ‘Nuevo Laredo’ or something.
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@rampz826
21 hours ago
I like how someone of his social status speaks on certain subjects however he could get himself canceled so I think he needs to stay out of politics because he could ruin our future retirements
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@yehimstone5492
14 hours ago
Elon is gaining 76 million conservative Americans

@janewoodhouse9688
11 hours ago
Lyrics
I wake from a fever dream
The room is just a little darker
Than it seemed before
I lived a lifetime in between
But everything I’d seen was just a dream
They say it happens for a reason
But consider the source
Consider the source
Evil prevails
Good men do nothing
Evil prevails
Good men do nothing
The train derails
Good men do nothing
The system fails
Good men do nothing
We live in the trees
We live on our knees
We live in the shadows
You live in denial
We live in the trees
We live on our knees
We live in the shadows
You live in denial
Evil prevails
Good men do nothing
Evil prevails
Good men do nothing
The train derails
Good men do nothing
The system fails

@f1al373
12 hours ago
I’m sure the politician’s will edit this video and depending on where they are red or blue portray what they want to portray.

@takenoshortcuts
19 hours ago
Thanks for sharing. Otherwise I may not have seen it
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@leahc5224
8 hours ago
Why do they need anyone at the border if everyone is just let in anyway?

@michaelm.a.9806
5 hours ago
Without finding the root cause of this it will continue.

@terryvanderhoeven2148
18 hours ago
Dam, I thought we had problems in New Zealand.
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@Ajinomoto619
10 hours ago
The navy gave me opportunity to become a legal american citizen, I did my 20 years in the military but these prople just walk accross the border and they are set with medical/shelter/food.

@wonton120
20 hours ago
Don’t you think this is a joke, for this simple problem, why we couldn’t solve it for so long?
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@lillysgrandmaable
18 hours ago
ELON !! WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN ? SO MANY WERE FOUND ALONE.
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@yehimstone5492
13 hours ago
Arrest the traffickers

@cohenkevinloriqueen818
4 hours ago
Elon is the Bomb….

@MrAlanfalk73
15 hours ago
Independent journalism doing what mainstream wont (unless the president is named Trump!).
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@GregoryHelberg
6 hours ago
Their job is to protect the country, just act on your own accord.. who will come make you let them in.. just start turning them around, shut down the train.

@pitech4446
20 hours ago
ELon needs to lose some weight man, his guts is coming out. We need him to be healthy for real
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@johnarchbold2262
20 hours ago
make mexico a state,,,, then a much smaller border!!!
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@davemilke3110
20 hours ago
Never heard that before, worth consideration for its worth.
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@lasvegasbound6167
20 hours ago
Just the ‘Mecheladora region, at most.
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@THEKFX700KID
12 hours ago (edited)
Come on Elon…. Your a billionaire and you can’t find a person with a camera to film this with you? Lol or at least hold you phone sideways so we get a full screen picture…. Anyway thanks for trying and doing what you do…
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@ericdelevinquiere9902
2 hours ago
Elon for president!

@nunung-ew3ip
15 hours ago
Will you work as a freelance reporter?

@acs2777
16 hours ago (edited)
Optimus activated . T9 intercept the organic life forms . Ps Elon for president of humanoids and humans !
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@omqbrown9041
13 hours ago
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@Cody-hx1uq
21 hours ago
Starlink… deal! Deal!

@zdme4864
20 hours ago
CONSEQUENCES!
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@nunung-ew3ip
15 hours ago
People born outside Amerika cannot be officials?????

@ffyy88
20 hours ago
Elon becoming journalist?
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@davemilke3110
20 hours ago
Real journalist.
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@davidking417
7 hours ago
Elon please help

@nilukadilrukshi6684
8 hours ago
මම එනවා elo Mus ලගදිම එනවා

@RoschetzkyPhotography
7 hours ago
Elon should just be president –

@Shin-z
19 hours ago
Elon for president !!
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@mwolrich
17 hours ago
If he wasn’t CEO of 6 companies, he could be, but he wasn’t born here, so doesn’t qualify
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@yehimstone5492
13 hours ago
​@mwolrich that didn’t prevent Kenyan born obummer

@juantroncoso1
7 hours ago
Dont you be suppost to be working on my Tesla stock ?
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@user-rx9rh1mq4o
19 hours ago
No elon should stay out of politics…but if this is a ploy to get conservative on your side ..i see your point…cybertruck is coming out and you need to get some of those ford f150 conservative on your side
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@yehimstone5492
13 hours ago (edited)
I’ve voted republican since I voted for Reagan in 1980. I voted president Trump twice and will vote president Trump 2024. Yes I do have a cybertruck reservation.
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@user-rx9rh1mq4o
11 hours ago (edited)
@yehimstone5492 yes its working..I do think elon is playing a 3d chess..Elon knows he needs to get more conservative to just give his product a try and some will like it..I have stock in tesla,,…I suggest you buy some

@fix-hb1561
21 hours ago
Wow! Completely Wrong,
Gov Broken.
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@philipmartin3075
21 hours ago
Bobby Kennedy Jr. for president!!!!
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@majerovi
21 hours ago
america need a working visa
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@RandomTask-hf6ek
6 hours ago
Why bus them…. when you can shoot them to the Moon??
Anyone for Moon street tacos ??

@Keyprinciples9
18 hours ago
Migrant warfare.
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@mack3354
1 hour ago
scary stuff

@rwhirsch
16 hours ago
oh my my…the liberal media’s not going to like this…i hope elon is prepared for the backlash (humor).
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@tenpattt777
19 hours ago
Elon kick out all man’s Keep the ladies

@garnettsand7418
6 hours ago
go wide angle

@cleanitup_pls7893
7 hours ago
Oversimplification of the problem by Elon is not going to help. However, best to start somewhere

@lilfairycupcake
15 hours ago
it just seem odd that musk would go out of his way for such a thing?

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@kazs.7403
8 hours ago (edited)
other immigrant has to pay to come over here USA each immigrants peoples should paying while working under provisions and checking background crime history medical records. all immigrants philippines citizens folks paid to come here with my parents.. yay right we all paying their stay here without paying wow i’ll be broke in years or maybe less you only care Mexican peoples, you got free food stamps good jobs.
hon careful

@hedwegg
20 hours ago
To the Point: (a) You’re paid to follow the law! (b) You took an Oath!
(c) You’re not following the Law! Lawlessness “rules”! We follow the Rules.It’s Orders!
Otherwise, No paycheck! No job!”Diminished Capacity””Emotionally & Mentally”!
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@jeffhidalgo8457
9 hours ago
Why is Elon there? He is a bit insulated from the river crossing immigrants experience.

@willinguyen1
19 hours ago
Cheap to just rip off another video onto your channel. Big turn off.
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@hedwegg
20 hours ago (edited)
[Diminished Capacity]from the [Top]to the [Bottom]. Foot Soldiers!
What remains?[Starlink & Drones]!All for [American Values & Technology]!
To DiluteTo Diminishare not [Values]!”In God we Trust”!
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@mb90821
21 hours ago
Vivek or Trump. I would prefer Vivek but Trump can solve the problem.
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@roxter299roxter7
21 hours ago
You must be kidding!
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@rogerstarkey5390
15 hours ago
Vivek “climate hoax” Ramaswamy?
Or
Donny “EVs bad” Trump?
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@sonnynim1212
17 hours ago
Good effort Elon, but this is not your fight. Now get the hell out of there and get back to work at Telsa. I’m still waiting for my Cybertruck.
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@mwolrich
17 hours ago
Then whose fight is it? Elon will bring a large amount of attention to the issue, that the politicians, in an election year will find very difficult to ignore
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@RichardPeterShon
22 hours ago
Id suggest that you dampen this vid. There are things we need to help Elon by temp stopping some news that he posts that are too political
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@tedmoss
21 hours ago
So you are afraid of being a person? You are going to tell me or anybody what they can think or say?
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@willinguyen1
20 hours ago
How is that helping him? It’s his video

@MrGchernetz
13 hours ago
Elon should stick to what he does best build the industries to make America lead. If he wants to stick his nose in the Immigration issue then run for office otherwise BUD OUT. If he wants to fix the problem he could pay for increased sites where these poor human Beings can be processed to be able to work in the USA especially at Elon’s factories.
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@truefreedom9308
14 hours ago
Love you Elon.
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Mark Collett: Good evening everybody and hello and welcome to tonight’s book club. And tonight we are here live on Odyssey, live on DLive, and live on Radio Albion.com. And we are reviewing The Camp of the Saints.

 

Now this is a very, very famous book. And it’s, it’s not just famous because of its content, but it’s famous because of the people who read it, the people who were influenced by it. One of whom was Trump’s original strategist in the 2016 campaign, Steve Bannon. It’s one of these books as many have helped inform his opinions.

 

Now, as I said, we are live on Odyssey, DLive and Radio Albion.com. And tonight’s going to be an interesting stream. Hopefully people will have read the book. And remember, if you haven’t read the book, you can get it for free. It’s very, very expensive if you’re looking for a physical copy in English.

 

But there is a PDF copy and a full audio book up on my Telegram channel so basically you can get them from there. I know not everyone likes reading a PDF off a screen, but certainly I can’t see any problem with anybody reading the listening to the audiobook.

 

So if you have enjoyed this book and if you want to contribute to the stream in some way, you can do. And you can contribute to the stream by sending donations or questions either through Entropy, through Odyssey. Well, there are the only two ways. Any paid donation is gratefully received and will read out the comments live on air.

 

And if you write non-paid questions through Entropy, we will also deal with those if we’ve got time. And as this is the book club, it’s one of our smallest streams, it’s not one of the biggest streams we do, there usually is time for some of those.

 

So please let me know your thoughts as well, and we’ll take your feedback.

 

Now, as I said, this book is one of those very famous books. It’s one of those books that liberals really, really hate. And I actually found this a particularly interesting book for several reasons.

 

And one of those was because I’m actually a big fan of sort of monster or horror films. And I actually found that this book was structured a little like a monster or horror film, because most of the book is about this impending doom! It’s about this flotilla or fleet of beat up old vessels bringing migrants to France. And it’s about the way the nation reacts to that impending horror, and about how a nation decides to either defend their borders or to let in a large group of people.

 

Now this book was written in 1973. So many people would think it was quite prophetic. And some of the things in the book are some of them might be a little off, however, and we’re going to discuss all of that tonight.

 

Sadly, the author of this book is not on the show because he’s actually passed away, so he couldn’t be here even if he wanted to. So if anyone’s wondering why we haven’t got the author, we usually have the author, but obviously that would not be possible in this case.

 

Now, I did say there isn’t an English translation readily available for purchase, but that is something that Claymore Books is working on.

 

So if you are a fan of this book, please, please do either wait for that or get the audio or PDF copies free from my Telegram.

 

Now, we’ll start by going around the group. And we will begin with Natty. Natty, how are you doing, my friend? Did you have a good Christmas? Obviously we didn’t do a book club last month. Did you enjoy this book? What were your thoughts about this book and did you enjoy it?

 

[03:58]

 

Natty: Hi, guys. Yes, thank you, Mark. I had a wonderful Christmas. Very nice, cozy, family orientated Christmas. I’ve also just got back from a week on holiday as well, which let me listen to this book.

 

Going back to what you said quickly, before I give my thoughts on the book, I did actually look for a hard copy and I thought I’d brought a hard copy for about £17 off Amazon. Little did I know when it turned up it was the French language copy, which is relatively cheap and easy to buy.

 

However, like you said, the English copy, if you want to buy it, the only copies I could find were somewhere between 160 and £240. So any of our publishers who are going to publish this book I think is going to be worthwhile.

 

However, the copy I listened to, and I think the one you posted, is one Alex Linder from Vanguard Audio and it’s very well read and he interjects with fairly decent notes. He’s one of our guys. He understands the politics, as I think most of us do.

 

However, I think is something Sally is going to allude to, he does get some of the French words butchered to pieces, I guess, because he’s an American. So it makes for an interesting listen. But it is very well read by him and he does put the correct emphasis where it should be. He talks about if he has to make notes about it, he will. So it’s a very good audio book. If anyone wants to read it, I’m sure I’ll post a link at the end or I’m sure you’re going to post it.

 

As to the substance of the book. There’s a lot to like, and I think there’s a few glaring omissions which I’m sure we’re going to cover. I actually read this book three or four years ago and it was part of my red-pill journey, if you like.

 

But reading it again, it’s quite interesting the way you say it kind of reads as like a monster movie. You’re right. Kind of like a Sci-Fi book from the time, like a Robert Heinlein almost with this fleet that Jean Raspail, he kind of takes away the humanity of the fleet, if that makes sense. And these 800,000 Indians just become this one amorphous like blob in the book, of this evil intent that’s coming to the West to destroy it.

 

So it’s quite interesting. And the reactions of the people who are supposed to be in charge, and and how prescient it was, considering it was written in the 70s. As I was reading it you have to keep reminding yourself that this isn’t a book that was written two or three years ago when the migrant boats were crossing not just the English Channel, but the Mediterranean as well. But actually way before any of that happened, before the fall of Libya, and the killing of Gaddafi, which spurred that on. Raspail apparently had a vision of this happening and put it into this book almost 40 years ago, 45 years ago now.

 

So it’s crazy. It’s crazy that this book predicted so much and gets so much right. But like I said, there is one especially glaring emission, but I’m sure we’ll get to that.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, you keep saying that you see, I thought the glaring error was that fundamentally it has the people coming from India. He foresees this giant mass of people moving from the Indian subcontinent.

 

Whereas I think anyone writing this book today would have basically said it was a mix of people probably from the Middle East and Africa, flowing through North Africa, and they would be coming over sort of on a flotilla of sort of endless stream of small boats. That was, to me, the only thing that he seemed to really miss the mark on. But obviously he was predicting this at a different time. Anyway, we’ll get into that later.

 

And I do want to structure this one a bit more because I want to analyze sort of him as a prophetic character. I want to analyze the book in terms of its sort of power and whether people enjoyed it, but also the fact that I do find it to be written in a very, … Usually books are written as there’s a giant happening taking place. And that might be a world-wide happening, a nationwide or sometimes even sort of a galaxy spanning happening. But the story seems to zero in on individuals that do great things and change the course of that sort of nation, world, or galaxy spanning event like Star Wars. It centres in on Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, princess Leia and it tells their story.

 

Whereas I felt this always felt quite backed away. It didn’t deal with these micro plots and human side of things. It dealt with major national changes from a distance, which I found a very, very interesting way to write a book. But we can discuss that later.

 

Anyway, let’s move on to Aunt Sally. How are you doing Aunt Sally? Did you have a good Christmas. And what were your initial impressions of the book? Did you like it?

 

[09:48]

 

Aunt Sally: Hi, Mark. Hi, everybody. Yes, I did have a good Christmas. As far as the book goes, no, I hate it! I brutally hated it! I thought I’d waste hours of my life listening to it. It’s the first audio book I’ve ever listened to. So that was very much a different thing for me because I’m used to reading things, and when I don’t understand, I can turn back a few pages and go back and recap on what I’ve just read and make sense of it.

 

But with the audio, if I press rewind, it took me back to the beginning. It just didn’t didn’t work for me. So I didn’t like the audio. I didn’t really like the book at all. Sorry. Horrible! I wasted my life. 10 hours or something. [Natty chuckling] I tell you how bad it was for me, but quite often I listen to it in the bath and where it’s been cold. I get in the bath for about an hour. It’s the warmest place in the house. And I fell asleep virtually every time I was listening to it. And then I had to listen to it again in case I missed anything.

 

And what you said you liked the way it was structured. I hated the way it was structured! It was all over the place! It starts at the end, really, and it jumps. What you said about a horror film, because to me, that’s what I’ve written in my notes. It’s almost like a storyboard, like he expected it to be made into a movie or something. Or maybe he hoped that, I don’t know. But no, it’s been torture! Hated it. Horrible book. Horrible! Maybe it’s because I’m a woman and I’m playing girl card. It’s horrible.

 

Mark Collett: Do you think it was a bit dystopian Sci-Fi for you, Sally?

 

Aunt Sally: I like sci-fi. All my favourite movies are Sci-Fi. So no, it’s just trying to work out where the story is. 1 minute it’s in a press office, and another minute it’s on the ship. Each little batch of chapters that I listened to, I’m trying to work out where they are. It just didn’t grab me at all!

 

Mark Collett: Natty, if it didn’t grab Sally, what made it grab you?

 

Natty: Well, even as I was reading it, I thought Sally was going to hate it, but for other reasons. Although, Sally, you did say in our private chat that it was kind of very blokey, very male orientated. And I do understand what you’re saying, but as Mark said, it takes this great big event, this world changing event, and it tries to, I don’t know, have this snapshot of the I don’t know. It happens over the course of about a month or two months, and then it especially Zooms in on the last two or three days where the fleet actually arrives was Off the coast of southern France.

 

The focusing, the chopping and changing and going between different characters. And I think probably there’s five or six areas or characters and geographical locations. There’s a couple in Paris who are also towards the end, there’s an Arabic kind of crime lord, or community leader.

 

There’s the press stuff, which is quite interesting because you’ve got this old dinosaur Right-wing press guy or Right-wing in quotation marks who has almost zero circulation, whereas the direction of travel for every other press and newspaper and radio personality is very liberal, very progressive, very anti-racist. And this guy is kind of struggling against the tide.

 

You’ve got the old man on the coast. So what’s this, three plot-lines so far? The old man on the coast, who has a house in Provence, who watches his fleet, arrives and knows that his house and his village is just going to get destroyed by these people.

 

And then towards the end, there’s also the colonel of the army and the glorious last stand, which definitely is very male orientated.

 

I think Jean Raspail in his notes said that he didn’t want to let the West win at the end. He wanted it to be the disaster that he wrote about and he wanted it to, I don’t know, as a kind of shock as to make us think this could happen, the way everything structured, the way our leaders are, the way the Churches, this could absolutely happen.

 

And he wanted to deny victory for the old kind of knightly or elite ways of the West, which would have saved us. So instead he gave these six or seven men a glorious last stand. And I think they end up getting bombed by French fighter jets at the end and dying. Which is, maybe that’s a male fantasy of these guys who cling cling fast to their ideals right to the end in the face of this new, diverse, anti-racist Europe which swallows up everything.

 

And it’s not just France, it’s the rest of the world too.

 

However, coming back, the reason I thought you’d hate it is because the way I read it, it seemed to be attacking the Church pretty heavily. And I know that’s one of the things that you’re not a fan of so I don’t know what Jean Raspail thought about that. But as I was reading it, this is something that’s Sally was really, really going to hate. Yeah, sorry, go on, go on, Sally.

 

[15:49]

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah, as far as the Church goes, I would attack the Church as. Well, I mean, I’m no fan of the Church. Just because I’m a Christian doesn’t mean that I’m a fan of the Church. The church, all the Churches are apostate religions as far as I’m concerned. I’m a Christian, I’m a born again believer. So the Church is the last, … You wouldn’t get anyone further from I mean, I think what I was yeah, …

 

Natty: What I meant to say was it poured scorn on the Church and Christianity whilst ignoring [chuckling] another religion, which is why I thought maybe you wouldn’t like it. Or you would have seen through that and been pretty disappointed, or hated the book for that reason. Or hated the content of a book for that reason.

 

Aunt Sally: It’s funny because you’re right, he doesn’t mention the other religion. One presupposes reading it that the people, these Ganges, he calls them the Ganges refugees, that they’re all Hindu. I don’t know why I thought that, but that’s the only religion that I saw mentioned briefly. The other one wasn’t mentioned at all, was it?

 

Natty: No, not at all. I got that in my notes, but I’ll throw it back to Mark.

 

Mark Collett: He certainly didn’t mention a specific (((ethnic group))) that seems to be very intent on opening borders for others, whilst keeping their own borders closed, if that’s what you’re talking about. And I think that’s because of the very, very strict laws in France about mentioning those people in any respect.

 

So that might be where, …

 

Aunt Sally: We were talking about the religion of, sorry, Mark, we were talking about the “Religion of Peace” [Islam]. That one.

 

Natty: No, I wasn’t talking about who he was talking about.

 

Mark Collett: Yeah, that’s the reason why France has a very, very strict code of conduct when it comes to that kind of thing, and Jean Le Penn found that out.

 

So the way I read this book, and I do think, as I said, there were characters in it, but I never felt any of them were really fleshed out. I never felt you went on sort of a hero’s journey, or a villain’s journey for that matter. I never felt there was a decisive clash.

 

And I find that very interesting because when you read books, as I said, there’s often something happening on a macro level, but the book then focuses in on the micro level and how decisions by a number of hero characters change the course of history.

 

And I didn’t really find any heroes in this. There were people who wanted to stop this, but none of them were successful. There was the usual politicians who, despite people’s fears, did nothing about it and constantly talked about how this was actually going to make France a better place. I also thought that was interesting. It was almost like this guy, as I said, he was very, very prophetic.

 

And that is something I want to talk about because he predicted vast numbers of people coming to Europe, and I’ll take this from the Wikipedia, because this is very, very interesting. The migrants land in southern France and make their way north, and this is sort of an excerpt from the Wikipedia. It says:

 

“The immigrants make their way north, having no desire to assimilate to French culture, but continuing to demand a first world standard of living even as they flout laws, do not produce and murder French citizens, such as factory bosses, and shopkeepers, as well as the ordinary people who do not welcome them.

They are also joined by immigrants who already reside in Europe, as well as various Left-wing and anarchist groups across the West. More and more migrants arrive and have children rapidly growing to outnumber Whites. In a matter of months the White west has been overrun and pro-immigrant governments have been established while White people are ordered to share their houses and flats with immigrants.”

 

I’ve got to say that, …

 

Natty: Considering that was written in the 70s!

 

Mark Collett: I think the only thing at that point that he gets wrong is this happens over the course of months. And that might just be because he has to write a book, not a 40 part series. And obviously what we’re seeing isn’t taking place over months, it’s taking place over years. But it is the same thing.

 

But when you read that, and that is just the Wikipedia plot summary, so I’m not saying that’s equivalent to reading the book. But what I am saying is that little snapshot there is so on the money! And when I was born, I worked this out, I was born in 1980. And in 1980, Britain was around 95% White or White British. It was basically what we would describe as an ethno-state.

 

And if people had said to the average White Britain in 1980. Look, this is going to be the fate that White people will face by the 2020s, I don’t think many people would believe them. And this book was written in 1973. So a good seven years before I was born. So you would definitely be talking most Western European countries being easily 90% to 95%, maybe more, White. So this guy would you describe him as a prophet?

 

[21:39]

 

Natty: Well, he said, I think again, in the pre-book notes, or in his pre-word, he said it was almost like a vision that came to him. And I think one of the things to remember is, for whatever reason, and I’m sure more intelligent people will be able to drill down into this and know more about it than me, France seemed to be further along and more anti-racist, more accepting of the blacks from their former colonies in Africa than Britain was for whatever reason. Maybe they were 20 years ahead, 30 years ahead, whatever it was.

 

I mean, it’s all much of a likeness now, or maybe not, but certain their attitude was further along than we were. And I think probably for someone like Jean Raspail, who travelled to South America when he was little and travelled around and saw lots of different things and probably saw Paris. And as a writer, as a cultural contributor to kind of French writing, he probably had quite a good grasp on exactly how things would go down, which is why this book hit so hard, even though it was written way before anyone else could have said this was going to happen.

 

And for me, that makes it all the more jarring that the small hat tribe doesn’t get mentioned. He never once mentions kind of the jewish hands on the levers of power on the institutions. And I understand the reason why he can’t talk about that. But for anyone on, not the dissident Right, whatever you call it today, anyone who understands anything about the way politics works, reading this today, that’s one of the key takeaways one of the big omissions, big black holes in the middle of this book that kind of screams out to be filled.

 

He talks a lot about anarchists, and women’s libs, and lefties, and this kind of stuff, but absolutely no mention of jewish, …

 

[23:54]

 

Mark Collett: Well, that was another thing that got me. I don’t want to cut across you, but I was out at the big protest in Leeds at the weekend. I was obviously the final speaker at that protest because Patriotic Alternative, we were the ones who helped get that up and running. Wasn’t all us, but we certainly helped. And we brought the stage and everything.

 

And one thing that amazed me is at one point during that protest, or the rally, on that piece of common land, we were stood there and a group of Antifa charged across the road to attack us. Now, they were repelled by a mixture of football lads and locals who had come out, who actually gave the Antifa a bit of a hiding.

 

But then the police actually arrested the Antifa, and I think it was four or five of them actually were arrested. And the police immediately raised a dispersal order for anybody who wasn’t a nationalist, which is very interesting, certainly went in our favour on the day.

 

But one thing I find really, really interesting about this novel is that he linked all of these things together. And I was there, obviously, on Saturday. Behind me was a hotel filled with migrants, and there on their side were these anarchists, these Leftists, these anti-fascists. And I was speaking to young girls, to men, to women, in the area who were telling me about how they knew people who had been accosted, menaced, basically threatened by the migrants.

 

And there it was, these lefties defending them, defending their rights to be here. And to sort of put all of this together in 1973, I just find it pretty incredible! The whole book had lots of little bits in it that made me think this guy almost had a time machine [chuckling]!

 

So sorry, carry on Natty. That I just wanted to raise that point because this book was literally a snapshot of what he was saying was taking place in Leeds at the weekend!

 

Natty: Yeah, I totally agree. It’s going to be one thing that keeps coming up over and over again during this discussion is that he totally nails the way it is. And it would have been true five years ago. And I know that this book came to prominence, like you said, because I think Steve Bannon quoted it, or said it was part of his inspiration, and a lot of people read it after that.

 

Mark Collett: It was a book that when I was in the BNP, it was a book that was sold then and recommended then as well. It was known in dissident Right circles, but Bannon really pushed it into the stratosphere.

 

Natty: Yeah, well, that totally makes sense. But you’re right. Just like you said, this is on the eve of less than one day ago, you’re protesting potentially criminal migrants being housed in your neighbourhoods, and on their side of these Lefty anarchists, Antifa, whoever they are. And yet Jean Raspail writes exactly this situation, however many years ago it was.

 

And one of the vignettes, the kind of character interactions that happens towards the end of the book is this Lefty anarchist kind of faces off against the military forces that are on the coast. And he’s got a whole band of anarchist brigands who are just there to have fun and welcome these migrants. On the other side is this general, this colonel in the army, this Dragaris, I think he’s called, but he’s got a dwindling supply of men because they keep deserting and running away. But he’s pretty staunch and he’s pretty steadfast.

 

Mark Collett: But yeah, I just want to bring this up as well while you’re talking about the defense of the beaches. One thing I found really interesting in this, a lot of people in France are scared that this is going to happen. And I found this a wonderful sort of twist in the book that the French President basically orders the troops to go to the beaches. And you’re thinking, are they going to make a brave last stand?

 

But then he says:

 

“I will leave it down to every man’s conscience what they do.”

 

And instead, with that last twist, the President basically causes this mass desertion. And most of the army just throw their weapons down and run, don’t they?

 

Natty: Yeah, I guess it’s the start of the third act, and it’s alluded to throughout the rest of the book, but the eve before the migrants land. They’ve already beached the boats, but they’re waiting to come ashore on, I think it’s Easter Sunday. And everyone in France and everyone in the rest of the world because this event has triggered this kind of diverse uprising throughout the rest of the Western world. I think there’s demonstrations in London and New York.

 

So everyone’s tuned in to the President’s final message he’s going to give the country, although you don’t know it’s final, because it could have been that they could have pulled back from the brink. They could have stood up and blown these people away and gone and waged war on them. But like you said, he almost does it.

 

But then at the last, during his speech, he has this kind of change of heart where he says:

 

“I’m not going to order you to shoot them, it’s up to you.”

 

And because of this and because of this psychological experiment they carry out with the Navy, a few chapters previous, they realize that they can’t do it, they can’t shoot these poor unarmed people and these women and children who are storming up the beaches.

 

So you’re right, this triggers this waves of desertion. But one of the recurring themes throughout the book that’s kind of going maybe off topic here that we can get into I’m not sure if you guys have got notes on it, is the way that the fleet this horde of Hindus on the fleet is actually really violent, and uncaring, and unfeeling, and murders quite a few people on the docks as they’re boarding in India, on the crossing itself as this kind of this western fleet of do good rock bands and pope and all these other people try and board and give them supplies. They actually throw corpses over the side and beat one of the guys to death and all the rest of it.

 

But this is all hidden by the media because they don’t want the French people or the European people to see that this supposed poor, we just need help, we’re so weak and feeble. They don’t want these people to see that these are really nasty people and they’re capable of some really nasty things if they reach our shores.

 

And it’s like again, we come back to it, it’s so on the nose! It’s right there! He was writing about things that are happening exactly the way they’re happening now.

 

[31:22]

 

Mark Collett: Sally, what’s your thoughts about this thing? Would you call Jean Raspail a prophet? Do you think he was ahead of his time? I know you didn’t enjoy the book, but did you take anything positive from the book in terms of his ability to predict this nightmare future?

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah, I think definitely, I’ve written that. I’ve got notes all over the place. But I’ve written many times:

 

“How did he know? How did he know that?”

 

And especially when you think he wrote it I think it was 1972. I’ve written down but you said 1973. But he must have thought about it years before. So the idea of the book probably a few years, and how did he know? How how did he know? Even the liberal thing about the liberals and, you know, that the women that were standing up for the refugees. He knew I grew up in this time. He was actually my father’s age, but he couldn’t have seen that. I know he travelled a lot, but I don’t know what on earth he could have seen that made him write it.

 

The other thing no one’s mentioned is that the refugees were men, women and children. They wasn’t just hordes of fighting age men. That’s a difference. I mean, I’m not sure what the proportion of women and children were, but women and children are mentioned a lot.

 

There’s one scene in it that they’re all having sex. Why am I listening to this? It is just horrible. [chuckling] But, yeah, much of it. You know what which bit I’m talking about in our tips. What the hell’s this? Why would they be doing that?

 

Natty: It’s pretty disgusting the way it’s written as well. He talks about semen flowing over brown bodies, and children involved and everything else. It’s really horrible!

 

Aunt Sally: The other thing is, he’s got a clear hatred, I think, hatred of people from India, because there’s barely a nice word about them. It made me think something must have happened to him that made him write like that, because he doesn’t talk about other, he doesn’t really mention any other races. There’s no Africans in there, is there? It’s all from people from the Ganges, that’s what he’s calling them.

 

And it’s like, why would they come from the Ganges? That was my big thing. Why would they go to France? I think the reasons were covered in the early chapters, where it was because they want what they’re entitled to. They want a share of the West’s wealth because they deserve it and they’re entitled to it. And I’m thinking, well, the Indians, why would they blame France? Surely they would be coming to England? Why France? I never really understood that. I don’t know if you did, Natty, because that really didn’t make sense to me, that it was Indians and not another race.

 

[34:38]

 

Natty: I don’t know where I read this, but I think I read that Jean Raspail actually chose to make it Indians, because making it Africans or sub-Saharan Africans, or North Africans would have been too easy, I think. Or they’re too alien. I think that’s paraphrasing what he said about it.

 

But then, strangely enough, the way he dehumanizes the Indians, you’re absolutely right. He couldn’t have written about them in a worse way. I think they’re eating poo and cooking with poo, I think there’s cannibalism on the fleet as well. This is one of the other things, …

 

Mark Collett: It’s every horror imaginable, isn’t it? The way he talks about them is this sort of floating ramshackle. And I’ve got to say this, one thing that I really liked as well is that they’re only able to get to the West because the West once colonized their part of the world and left these rotting boats there.

 

So there are all these old ramshackle boats that were once used by Western explorers and shipping companies that have just been dumped there. And they board them almost like a fleet of these boats, and they’re all sort of decaying. And some of them are sort of like lashed together to make them slightly more seaworthy. And they just set off on this slow journey.

 

But I did like the fact that it was almost sort of like the things we left behind for them, they use against us. I thought that was another subtle part of it. Sorry, carry on.

 

Aunt Sally: Even then, they’ve seized these ships, these rust buckets, I think he calls them, somewhere. But the amount of food that they would have, an organization that they would have had to have to bring those ships as far as France, that is fantasy, isn’t it? It just wouldn’t have been possible if these people were that starving, that they’re leaving their homeland to go to France for what they think is their fair share of Western wealth.

 

How on earth, could they afford to fill that ship with the food that they would have needed to get it sailing. And the fuel and the food and everything else? They couldn’t have been as poor. They couldn’t be that poor, could they? That didn’t make sense. Things have to make sense and add up to me. And it just, …

 

Natty: Sure, I know exactly what you mean. I’ve got this written down, actually, in that, …

 

Aunt Sally: You could probably explain it better. Yeah.

 

Natty: He gives a Ganges fleet this kind of constant miracle. He grants them constant miracles in order to get them where they need to be.

 

So I think the initial incident is this thing that happens at the Belgium embassy, where they say:

 

“We’re not taking any more orphans from India back to Belgium.”

 

And this triggers a stampede. A shot is fired and Agent Provocateurs actually whip up the crowd. Don’t just whip up the crowd, they whip up the whole of Delhi or wherever it is on the Ganges. Maybe it’s not Delhi. Into storming the docks.

 

Now, the fleet, it says, I think the numbers are 800,000, spread over 100 boats of varying sizes. Most boats carrying more than 1000 people each, obviously. But the speed that it travels, he does allude to the fact that thousands die on the route and they’re just even used as fire-lighting material, or thrown over the edge or eaten in some cases. And the fact that there’s no weather that stops this fleet, there’s no storms, there’s no anything that impedes this fleet in the slightest, it just makes its way there. There’s no talk about fuel, there’s no talk about leadership, …

 

Mark Collett: I read this completely differently to you. Carry on, then I’m going to give a slightly different story.

 

Natty: So, in my opinion, I mean, Jean Raspail, and I had this kind of theory as I was reading it, that maybe his granting the fleet this kind of just mythical ability to travel was maybe a cover for the JQ, in that it would have been NGOs helping these people out and buying fuel for them and supplying with food.

 

But in the book, they just manage it. It happens for them. I’ll be interested to hear what you’ve got to say about it.

 

[39:34]

 

Mark Collett: Well, I didn’t see it as something as complex as that. And I said I saw this as a bit like a horror film. And I’ll talk about what I mean. Often, something like, say, Jaws. You know, this monster is out there, you know, it’s coming. And throughout the film, you don’t really see the monster head on and the sort of true level of carnage it can cause.

 

I’ll give you a good example of a film like that. The recent first in the new Godzilla films, you saw lots of things sort of like telling you that something bad was going to happen. But it wasn’t until the end when you saw the true carnage of Godzilla sort of crashing through an American city. And I kind of felt that this film was like that, in that you knew that this monstrous human tide was coming, but you only saw it sort of crash on the beaches and the chaos toward the end of the book.

 

And one thing about a monster film that can make you feel unsettled is when the beast is relentless and unstoppable. And no matter what happens or no matter what you think might throw it off, it just keeps advancing.

 

So in horror films, you kind of have characters like Michael Myers who doesn’t matter how or Jason Voyage doesn’t matter how many times they’re shot or who chops at them with an axe or who hits them with a bat. They just keep coming relentlessly.

 

And I felt that Raspail sort of ascribed, like you say, it’s almost a horrifying, mythical, supernatural power to this fleet. But I also felt he did something else. He made it feel, by the end of the book, as you realize it’s coming, it’s coming, it’s coming, and it’s building in your stomach that this monster from like a horror film is unstoppable and it’s coming and it’s relentless.

 

But also from our point of view, from a racial point of view, an ethnic point of view, he made this feel inevitable. He made it feel like whatever you do, there is no turning this back! There is no changing this. This is the fate of the West. The West is fated to die! The West is fated to be defeated, to be destroyed at the hands of mass immigration, fueled by traitorous politicians.

 

And although he makes it clear that really in their heart of hearts, whether they express it or not, the vast majority of the normal French people who weren’t part of the government or weren’t part of these anarchist or liberal groups, they didn’t want it. But they just didn’t feel as if they could do anything other than flee, which I took as sort of a signal of White flight. And the way they moved north through the country with the White French fleeing north, thinking they could escape this if they got far enough north.

 

Basically, that’s what happens in Britain, isn’t it? They turn upon our southern coast and as they move north, people flee north! If I get to Yorkshire, I’ll be fine. Well, if I get to the northeast, I’ll be fine. Well, if I get to Scotland, I’ll be fine. And eventually it’ll be well, if I get to the Outer Hebrides, they won’t follow us there! But they follow you everywhere.

 

And I kind of felt, … Maybe a better way to put it is like The Terminator from obviously The Terminator films, this unstoppable force. And it really did sort of hit me that Raspail was saying:

 

“By the time this is all happening, it will already be too late to stop it!”

 

And I kind of saw this as his way of saying that this is a grim inevitability for the West. It’s the monster that you won’t be able to stop. But ironically, he more or less alludes to the fact it was a monster created by the West out of our own altruism, out of our own colonization, out of our own liberalism.

 

That’s how I saw it. I didn’t think there was anything more complex, hidden. But I did think he made it very much. This ever advancing terror, unstoppable terror, that was our destiny. Our destiny was to be destroyed by a monster of her own making. Have I got that completely wrong? I’ll ask both of you that question.

 

[44:11]

 

Natty: Well, funnily enough, one of the things that does differentiate it from today, is how much power the media personalities have, right? So the newspaper men and the radio, the radio people and the occasional address by this ambassador from India, or the ambassador from Belgium, or some minister from France is able to sway public opinion in a way that we wouldn’t really understand now, given that we’ve all got phones and Internet and the dissemination of information and news sources wide reaching and wherever you can get your information from wherever.

 

But one of the things that does keep the French from complaining too loudly and sway’s opinion is these big personalities, whether they’re on the radio or whether they’re in the newspapers of the time. And again, this is written in the 70s, so it’s understandable that those channels of communication or mass media were controlled that way.

 

And it’s actually one of the I’ll make this topical about recent times. One of the things we’re kind of grappling with right now is that certain sources of information or cultural touchstones for us, like the Babylon Bee, like maybe Steven Crowder, some other people who you kind of assume are on the dissident Right, or your side are being exposed as just bad actors. They’re supposed thought leaders, but they’re not good for you and they’re leading you down the wrong path and trying to divert you, act as gatekeepers and all the rest of it.

 

And it’s something that we have, I think since 2015, 2016, have been grappling with this and slowly exposing people. It’s very rare that someone can come on the scene now or turn up with a Telegram channel or turn up in someone’s media project, and not have questions asked about who they are, where they’ve come from or who’s funding them or any of that stuff. So again, it’s one of the things in this book that doesn’t sit right with the way things are today.

 

But you’re right, the people there are totally betrayed and their opinions are swayed by these people who stop them resisting, which is really interesting. And it’s the same thing they would try and do now, and they still do try and do now by banning people off social media, restricting their access.

 

Mark Collett: But I was just going to cut in there, mate. I do think there are increasingly people who don’t listen, but you’ve got to remember, I mean, just look at Piers Morgan. I mean, people joke that he’s the Gammon Whisperer, that he’s the one that when the public are actually at that point of snapping over something, he does an interview and sort of calms it down, or:

 

“Well, they’re not all bad. And this one here that I’ve got on the show, he’s not like the other ones.”

 

And do you still think, though, that there are some celebrities like that? There are Morgans, there are the Peter Hitchens, there are these sort of centrist people who would calm others.

 

And I’ll give you an example. I was on Twitter just looking at the response to our protest in Leeds at the weekend, and there was I don’t know whether this person really is a woman or if it really is the person who the account claims to be. But they were saying:

 

“Oh, well, I am completely against these migrants, but the idea of protesting outside a migrant hotel is disgusting! It’s anti-British! You are meant to be standing for the British people, but what you’re doing is the most anti-British thing! That’s their home. No British man, no decent British man would go out there and actually protest outside somebody’s home, making them feel uncomfortable. This is the most wickedly, un-British thing ever! Hang your heads in shame!”

 

And I looked at that and thought:

 

“That’s a very carefully constructed argument.”

 

But that’s the kind of argument that is designed to calm people into completing inaction.

 

And although I think that maybe the media doesn’t have the power it used to, there are still media figureheads. And I do still think there are, you know, subversive agents out there spreading this nonsense. The kind of people that will say:

 

“Well, I walked into the Gulag with my head held high and a smile on my face, because at least they couldn’t call me racist!”

 

And you’re thinking:

 

“So you did nothing for the last, 20 years except for agreeing with the government. Then the last moment, you made some meek protests and let them cart you off to the Gulag.”

 

Well, if you’d be a little less bothered about being called a racist for the last, 20 years, we could have actually done something. And I do think there are other things that sort of have emerged as sort of mind control devices that would stop people taking action, even in a horrific case like this, where there is literally an invasion fleet on its way.

 

[49:19]

 

Aunt Sally: One of the things about the book that did strike me was the word “racism” and the fact that he wrote it when Enoch Powell made that famous speech, And I asked my mum, what’s “racism”, and she said:

 

“It’s people that don’t like black people.”

 

And I said:

 

“Does that mean your one?”

 

And she said:

 

“Yes!”

 

And I thought:

 

“Oh!”

 

And then there was this drive from the press that Enoch Powell’s a racist and this and that. And that’s when that word first became for me, was a thing like, you mustn’t be a racist, they’re the worst things ever.

 

But he knew, he must have known that that word was the tool that was going to lead to political correctness and excuses for not standing up for what’s right and wrong for your own race. He knew it. He knew a lot. It just makes me think what I’ll always wonder, where did he get his knowledge from? How? I mean he travelled? I wonder what he saw. He knew too much and I’d love to know how he knew it.

 

And it crossed my mind that maybe he got some of it from the Bible? Some of what’s happening from the Bible? From Revelations in particular. Yeah, there’s a bit in Revelations about nation on nation, nation on nation being race against race. That’s what it means. But, yeah, I do think he got it from there. I forgot what was going to say next. So carry on.

 

Natty: I think we were talking about the fact that the people in France were betrayed by the media and their politicians. And actually that is going to lead me on to say something else, or kind of change the direction of this thing.

 

Mark, you talk about the fact that the fleet is kind of this creeping horror that’s going to end up in France, I think I guess Raspail chose France because it was his country. He understood it. He understood how beautiful the southern coast was in Provence and this total juxtaposition of this fleet of tramp steamers filled with emaciated brown Indian people covered in semen and poop, [chuckling] wading ashore into Provence, into one of arguably the most beautiful coastal regions in the world, the most well maintained and the most gorgeous, the best climate in the world.

 

But as always, and this is a theme that’s true in any major shift in history, it’s not the outsider that does you in, in the end, it’s your own countrymen! It’s the traitors inside your country. It’s the media. There’s one odious character called Clement Dio who’s a kind of mixed race, wealthy newspaper guy, who’s constantly attacking nationalists or people with nationalist sentiments.

 

There’s an incident with Arabs in a swimming pool and he just ruthlessly goes after, using his newspaper, he goes after the town council for trying to ban these Arabs from the swimming pool because it’s spreading syphilis and their pestering girls and stuff. So there’s this horrible anti-White mixed race guy called Clement Dio who eventually gets his comeuppance. And that’s one of the good things about this book, is that a lot of the scumbags and people who screw France over and screw Europe over, end up getting killed and brutalized. And I think that was Jean Raspail’s way of having his own version of revenge on these people, even if the West did fall.

 

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Mark Collett: Well, I thought that was very realistic! Because all the people you see this in the in the UK, when you see these sort of liberal White women go on these BLM marches and something horrific happens to them all. And these things do happen! And I thought again, I didn’t think it was his way of getting revenge. I just thought it was prophetic. I thought that eventually the liberals meeting their end at the policies they advocated for was absolutely true.

 

And you could take that and you see it’s when I read bits like that, I’m not sure whether he was prophetic or just very good at reading history, because obviously that brings you to sort of the Haitian Revolution, where during the Haitian Revolution, the blacks, the mixed race and White collaborators took power over Haiti.

 

But as soon as they had taken power, it wasn’t long before the blacks and the mixed race did away with the White collaborators. So even the Whites that helped them, they then did away with. And shortly afterwards, many of the mixed race were also killed because they formed a strata above the black Haitians.

 

And it is with an understanding of history that you do start to look at this and say, maybe he did base certain aspects, not say, the migrant flotilla or anything like that. I mean, that would be unprecedented in his time. But there were certain historical aspects to the book, like the Haitian revolution, which I think he would have had a very strong knowledge of.

 

Natty: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. And you kind of think about the people in this country. Now you extrapolate, we think, well, maybe not this country, but someone like Sean King or, …

 

Mark Collett: Sorry to butt in mate, sorry, sorry to butt in, but I just wanted to point out as well the reason he would have had such a great knowledge of the Haitian revolution, because obviously that was an insurrection against French colonial rule. So that may well have been something that as a Frenchman of that era, he was very well read on, because Haiti was originally a French colony. And the French there that did side with the revolutionaries were killed shortly afterwards.

 

Natty: Yeah, absolutely.

 

Aunt Sally: That makes sense. That answers my question, because it’s one of the things I was wondering, where did he get all this from? What made him write this book? Where did the ideas come from? It must have come from that, and he might have known people.

 

Natty: Well, if you think about what would happen to someone like Akala, or Alfa Hirsch, or Ash Sarkar, for instance. If this was to happen in the same way as the book, and even in different ways, these people wouldn’t be needed. They’ve been stabbing and jabbing at the stumbling, the shuffling kind of walking catastrophe that is the UK. And these guys have been jabbing their knives in and trying to draw blood.

 

But come any sort of revolution that these people would cheer on, they’d be the first to go. They wouldn’t have any place. And I think Jean Raspail understood that, especially in what happens to Clement Dio, which is his kind of personification of all of these people. Like you say, the White collaborator.

 

In Clementio’s case, he’s a mixed race, but he runs into a gang of escaped criminals, many of them black or Africans, who have been let out of his prison. And at first he’s kind of jokey and matey with him. And I think he’s got a Chinese wife with him who’s very attractive, and they start drinking together. And by the end of it, he’s beaten up and locked in an upstairs room and they’re downstairs in the bar raping his wife for three days. I can’t remember if he dies afterwards or whether they kill him or what happens.

 

But again, this is before the fleet even lands. So the army has its teeth taken away by the President, by the media, by the people of Provence running away, because they don’t have the have the stomach, or the heart, or the institutions behind them to stand up for themselves and defend their own patch of land.

 

So the French army has the artillery, has the navy, it has all these prestigious regiments who have travelled around the world and conquered and gone to war, but it’s not the problem that they’ve got of that. And they’re facing this fleet. Everything behind them has collapsed and the people inside the country have turned against them, essentially, and they can’t defend their land anymore. They don’t have the moral fortitude, they don’t have the institutions on their side. They don’t have the backing of anyone.

 

And in that case, if the enemy at your front is easy to see, but the enemy at your back is one that’s just constantly stabbing you and taking away your troops and trying to cause desertions and all the rest of it and sabotaging your supply lines. You can see why everything just fell apart at the end of a book and happened the way it did.

 

Mark Collett: Do you have anything to add on that one, Aunt Sally?

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah. No, I think most of the book seems to centre around the actual journey, the journey and what’s happening in press offices and governments. That’s all politics. And I hate politics! I really do. But it was all about this impending doom.

 

And if it did remind me of any horror movie, it was Walking Dead. It’s just like they keep coming, they keep coming. And then when they think they’ve got rid of all the hordes of zombies. There’s more coming. There’s more coming. It was all this impending doom and gloom that’s coming and then accepting their fate, they’re not going to make a stand. They’re not going to fight. They’re not going to fight for it. I’d understand that if it was men, women and children, which it was, I’d get it.

 

What would happen if that was the case? If this flotilla of people, real, genuine refugees, were coming from the Ganges and they were men, women and children, then different governments would plan where they’re going to go and make the rest of Europe take some of them, not just allow them all to land in France. So, again, when things don’t make sense to me, I can’t really take it seriously. It’s like this whole flotilla is going to France. Why?

 

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Natty: I think that was one of the reasons why Raspail wrote it Sal. The way he did so was he deliberately took those decisions away from the governments of the West. Every interaction they try and have with the fleet is ignored. They don’t want anything to do with help, or aid, or anything else. There’s no radios on board the fleet. They’re just going where they go.

 

And interestingly, an incident where it looks like they might be heading for the Suez Canal. I don’t know if you guys remember this part of the book. But the Egyptian government only has one navy boat. So it’s got this old Second World War destroyer that’s kind of on its last legs. It’s been afloat for the last 40, or 50 years. It’s barely held together. And it’s the one navy boat that Egypt possesses.

 

But the Egyptian government, which still has some balls and does not want these people in their country and is still led by people who are willing to say as much, doesn’t want this fleet coming through the Suez Canal and ending up grounding. And then they’ll have to deal with it.

 

So the Egyptian government sends out this single navy boat and tells the captain:

 

“You stop that fleet and you turn it around by any means necessary!”

 

And the guy pulls up alongside. Again, there’s no radios. So he just shouts over the loud hailer and fires like a stream of antiaircraft, like cannon fire over the bridge. And the kind of crippled quadriplegic who’s in charge [chuckling] of this fleet is shocked into turning it around.

 

So this show of force by this crappy beat up old navy boat. But because the person who’s in charge of that boat and the person who’s giving him his orders is prepared to do what’s necessary. They managed to turn this fleet around and avert disaster for Egypt.

 

And there’s absolutely none of that will, or backbone in the West anywhere to make that kind of decision! France ends up getting the refugees. So it’s this interesting juxtaposition between the Egyptian navy, which achieves it’s aim with one rusty old tub with like an antiaircraft gun on it, versus the entire fleets of Western Europe who are utterly toothless and can’t do a single thing about it.

 

Mark Collett: I thought that was interesting as well. And something else I liked about the book. And I’ve talked about this many times before on streams. And when I’ve appeared on other people’s, shows. That this book, although it does take place primarily in France, by the end of the book, he’s made it clear that virtually every Western nation has been consumed by this. This sort of flotilla leads to sort of a knock on effect which basically destroys everything. And the last holdout is Switzerland.

 

But eventually, because every other country is now completely overrun with migrants and liberals and has succumbed to this nightmare, Switzerland is seen as this rogue state and basically that is forced to capitulate as well. And eventually everywhere succumbs to this nightmare.

 

And I thought that was really important too, and I speak about this quite a lot, as I said, on other streams and shows that this is a White issue. And a lot of people say:

 

“Oh, Mark, you shouldn’t talk with all these Americans and people from overseas, you should stick to just what’s going on in Britain!”

 

But this isn’t a British problem. And I thought Jean Raspail made it very clear that this wasn’t just a French problem in the book. That this led to absolute world-wide changes! Every Western nation ends up succumbing to this madness! Every Western nation ends up being crushed under this tidal wave of migrants! And really what could be described as anti-White policy.

 

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And I thought that was very interesting too, because he realized in 1973 that despite what he felt was coming to France, that everywhere would go along with this, that you wouldn’t have Britain as an outlier, you wouldn’t have a resurgence of militant nationalism in Germany that would save Germany. America wouldn’t stand alone as the last bastion of the White nuclear family in their quaint houses with white picket fences. He knew this was going to be something that would essentially affect what would be described as the whole Western world.

 

And I do think that’s a very, very important point. And it’s also very indicative of his level of understanding of this problem, that it isn’t a madness that just affects a country, it’s a madness that infects, or an ethnicity for that matter. It doesn’t just affect the English. But it’s passed over the Scottish. This is a madness that infects our entire race!

 

And at the end of the book, essentially the whole West has sunk. He more, or less, says that. But you would think there be some small communities in parts of America, that would stand strong against it and remain there during the collapse of civilization. But obviously we’ll never know. I don’t believe unless he tells me otherwise, that. He did a follow up about any resistance. I think he left it at the end with complete destruction. In very many ways, as Natty said, probably to shock people and to make people think, look, you need to do something now before it’s too late.

 

But, yeah, to see this as not just a French thing, but as a White thing, I thought that was very important as well, because there’s still people out there who don’t understand that this is an anti-White thing, that this isn’t about being British, or French, or German, it’s about being White.

 

Natty: Yeah. And throughout the book there’s a couple of scenes where there’s a few Summits between the European nations. And it’s quite clear that I think Italy says:

 

“Oh, no, we can’t take them because we’ve got to think of the Catholic Church! And the fact that the Pope is here!”

 

And Britain says:

 

“Oh, well, we can’t take them, because we’ve got colonial ties with India. And all the rest of it.”

 

And they’re so happy when they don’t have to deal with this fleet. They’re totally, like, inward looking. If they can just have a few more months, or a few more years where they don’t have to deal with this.

 

And it’s exactly the same situation in the West. I mean, anyone with even half a brain cell can see where the current system of governance and culture is leading, and it’s nowhere good. I mean, it’s leading to what this book prophesies, basically.

 

We all understand this, and I’m pretty sure everyone listening understands this as well. Even if there’s people listening to this who hate us, or are working for the state, they know what’s coming. They know, whether it’s in 20 years, whether it’s in 50 years, if things carry on the way they are, it’s going to be bad for everyone. Not just not just us, because we’re raising our voices against it, but for you too, there’s going to be no progress, no improvement of the people you call your family and your ancestors. And all the rest of it.

 

The other interesting thing I found was, obviously France has a colonial past, and so does the UK. But this idea that this fleet is kind of retribution for the West completely ignores the fact that the same thing is happening in, like, Sweden and Denmark, which never expanded into Africa, or the Middle East, or anything like that.

 

Australia, or like you said, Mark, in the book, Jean Raspail, has this happening everywhere where there’s White people, right? So Australia, South Africa. And this book was written before apartheid ended. So while the Whites were still in charge in South Africa. And there’s quite an interesting part of the book which we haven’t touched on yet, that happens with South Africa.

 

But this happens everywhere and it has no bearing, and no worries about who did what in the past. It’s coming for all of you. I think you’ve kind of alluded to that with the idea of this being like a horror, a horror book, as well. TRS some horror aspects to this fleet and what it brings with it.

 

[1:10:01]

 

Aunt Sally: Yes, I’ve got notes on the bit about South Africa. And the fact that, well, he knew all this. He knew all this to write the book. But he didn’t know about South Africa. He didn’t see that coming, did he? It seemed out of place, the South Africa, but knowing what we know now, and now knowing what’s happened in South Africa, that he wrote this book, the one place that succumbed big time. In fact, they went first, didn’t they? That he didn’t foresee that it’s a strong White nation in the book still. And it turns them away as well.

 

I’m sorry. I’m not saying, … I just hated the book! [chuckling] I can’t say anything good about it! All I can think is, like, the audio of his voice, Alex Linder’s voice. Just these:

 

“Brown, putrid bodies!”

 

That’s all it’s saying. It’s horrible! Just words that he’s describing people, non-stop, being just filth! It’s affected me. It’s a horrible book! Sorry, you both liked it. I’m struggling to talk about it, because I’m almost traumatized by reading it. It’s awful. Yeah. Who suggested it? Was it you? Was it you Natty? I know.

 

Natty: Yeah.

 

Aunt Sally: Please.

 

Natty: I wasn’t sure where else I could find it as an audio book. I only knew about the Alex Linder reading of it. I found that Alex Linder emphasizing the kind of horror, the kind of body horror of the Indian fleet added to the book. Maybe it’s a male thing, I’m not sure, [chuckling] but it made it all the more pressing. What’s happening in the book.

 

As to South Africa, it is interesting, because South Africa does the same thing as Egypt. Because obviously the fleet leaves India, and initially it looks like it’s head for the Suez Canal, but it turns south, because of this one action by the Egyptian government with their rusty old torpedo boat, rusty old destroyer. So it turns south and has the head around the Cape of Africa. So around South Africa. If you can imagine it on the map. And initially, because South Africa is a White country. And it’s still in the hands of the White South Africans there, they think, well, maybe the fleet is going to stop there. Because it’s a prosperous country, they could get welfare. And all the rest of it.

 

But the South African government does the same thing as the Egyptian government and makes it clear in no uncertain terms, they are going to open fire on this fleet if they try and land in South Africa. They’re completely uncaring. They’re totally used to dealing with a majority population. In the case of South Africa, of these blacks that they’re in charge of, they know exactly how to deal with them. They know that you threaten and then you use violence. And that’s how you get the job done. And that’s how they treat the fleet. And it works. The fleet just sails past.

 

As a result, there’s this howling and screeching from the media, in this case, the French media. Because that’s who it’s focused on. And the ambassador is shunned and all this other stuff, and South Africa is racist and all this, and all that. And they go on and on. But at the end of the day, they achieve their aims. And the fleet sail was passed, even going so far as to throw off the aid that the South Africans try and give them, to help them keep moving.

 

So, yeah, it’s interesting that South Africa had the military might and the will to do that, but then, like you said, a few years later, it falls and is now where it is, which is not a good place. He didn’t foresee that, I’ll give you that Sal!

 

Mark Collett: Just one other thing as well, about the Egyptian Navy obviously being able to turn back the whole flotilla just with one boat. Do you think it was his way of saying, and this could all be ended so easily and the West will just do nothing to end it? Because obviously the Egyptians did very easily manage to avert the crisis landing on their shores. And that is very true, isn’t it?

 

So you could even draw an analogy between that and what happened during Covid. So during Covid the Royal Navy managed to have boats constantly patrolling the English Channel with the intention of arresting sun bathers, or swimmers, or anybody going out and enjoying the summer during the 2020 Covid. But the same navy that can patrol every inch of those beaches to ensure that there’s no sunbathers there, now can’t do a single thing to stop migrants landing on those beaches in their hundreds, or thousands every day.

 

And I do think he makes an important point there as well. This migrant crisis that we’re living through now, even though he’s not here to see it, it could all be stopped with such great ease, couldn’t it? They could literally close that southern border with a stroke of a pen!

 

[1:15:53]

 

Natty: Oh, that’s one of the things that is totally clear with what you’re saying, is that it’s not that the government. I mean, in the book, Jean Raspail does take the teeth away from the government.

 

But in regards to where we are now it’s not that the government doesn’t have teeth and willingness to use force and use violence. But they don’t want to use it for the good of the country. They want to use it to repress their own people, arrest people for Twitter, things they write on Twitter.

 

You’re absolutely right! Any single person with just an ounce of moral fiber knows how to stop those migrant boats. And maybe there’d be involved, who knows? But it wouldn’t be hard, like you say, to even discuss this sounds stupid, because it’s so easy. It would be so ridiculously easy. And yet our own government is facilitating it!

 

This is what I mean. It’s not the problem that there’s 50,000 migrants in France who want to come across a Channel in small boats. The problem is that the government is helping them and wants to house them and pay the money when they get here! It’s totally the running theme is that in this book. And what now is that you’re going to get betrayed by the people in charge who hate you, and have this kind of pathological altruism that they’ve instilled into everyone. This kind of multiracial Diversity is Our Strength. You all know for slogans. This is a knife that’s jammed into your back using these slogans and using this kind of mass brainwashing.

 

Yeah, the government absolutely has a teeth to do certain things and take hard measures and take necessary steps if it feels as necessary, like arresting people for sunbathing! But stopping violent criminals, landing on your shore in little rubber dinghies:

 

“No, if we can’t do that! It’s too difficult, it costs too much money!”

 

Whatever. Pick your excuse!

 

Aunt Sally: It’s interesting that you said that, Mark, because I hadn’t thought of it.

 

But you’re right that the Egyptian fleet and the South African, how easy it was to turn them back. He’s showing thid. And what do we make of that? What Natty just said? They want it all engineered for a reason by people that don’t like us.

 

Mark Collett: Right. So we do have some Superchats. We don’t have many tonight. But we’ve got a few. So let’s do the ones we have, because we’ve only got about 35 minutes of this show left. So let’s do those. And then we can discuss a bit more of the book, or if anything else comes in, we can answer those as well.

 

So these are all from the same guy. He calls himself “A Stupid Moron”. I don’t know why he calls himself that, because he’s always very kind. So thank you for these Superchats. His first Superchat is he says:

 

“Hi, Mark. Pat Buchanan recently retired from writing. He was as close as a dissident Right figure to make the mainstream as we got. A good book to cover is The Death of the West. He was talking about demographics in the 1990s.”

 

Would you guys be interested in doing a Pat Buchanan book?

 

Natty: Yeah, absolutely. I keep hearing about him. I hear about him in circles and Telegram chats all the time. But, yeah, definitely. I’d certainly be up for that.

 

Aunt Sally: I would. I wouldn’t mind.

 

Mark Collett: It’s quite interesting. That people are brought up The Death of the West. And it’s interesting, because that was another book that I believe. If I’ve got this right, that was recommended reading when I was in the BNP. Yeah, it definitely was. It was originally published in 2001. Camp of the Saints was definitely recommended and Death of the West was as well. I remember Buchanan’s name being thrown around.

 

But I also think Pat Buchanan was somebody he was very, very he was a lot sort of more mainstream than, say, the people we usually have on this show. So it was interesting that he decided to basically write a book that sort of incendiary. He did go down sort of a line that the West was being destroyed by demographic change.

 

And he also was somebody who sought presidential nomination for the Republican Party. So it was quite interesting to see somebody who was that high up actually go down the route of talking about demographics in such an open way. Thank you for that Superchat.

 

The next one says:

 

“Recent Daily Mail article showed that 250,000,000, that’s 250,000,000, Latinos alone now want to migrate to the US. We are talking about Armageddon of Western civilization here.”

 

Yeah. Because obviously we get the dinghies. And the dinghies are resulting in some sort of quarter of a million illegal migrants washing up on Britain’s shores every year. But that land border between America and Mexico is obviously a huge, huge threat to America’s current demographic balance, which is already teetering on the brink.

 

What do you guys think about that? Do you think that America [word unclear] what is going to change when America does hit that demographic tipping point? Do you think that could be something that fundamentally, although will be disastrous for White Americans, do you think that could actually be something that could lead to America being supplanted by China, or even Russia as the global superpower?

 

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Natty: That’s an interesting question. It’s quite hard to predict what would happen. There’s definitely all of the intangible qualities that European that allowed America to become strong will slowly be lost as the demographics. I know it’s not exactly happening slowly, but as it changes, things just become worse and shittier and infrastructure becomes worse. American culture, there’s a certain, like, hollowness to it as well. The way the roads are laid out, you don’t walk anywhere. It’s all just buy this and advertising. So it’s not hard to imagine that at some point in the near future, the hordes coming up from South America who are totally on board, by the way, … Again, another aside. Sorry to keep doing this.

 

Another aside is that the people like White Europeans, we’ve got a certain taste for our media. And you have to kind of cater to that you have to tell stories that are good. This is why so much of kind of dissident adjacent circles are constantly harping on about how crap the new Lord of Rings is, or how crap the new Star Wars is, or how soulless Marvel films are. All the rest of it.

 

However, it seems like a lot of the people who they are trying to replace Europeans with successfully don’t have any of those hangups. They’re more than happy to just consume this garbage storytelling, this garbage crappy films and media and music that they just pump out to keep people entertained. And I think that’s part of the reason why they’re so keen to bring them in. I mean, it serves a dual purpose. It’s quick money and it replaces White people, which it seems to be what every establishment is hell bent on doing! And does it mean they’re going to lose out to China and Russia? Well, Russia, who knows? But China, yeah.

 

I mean, there’s no reason why it shouldn’t. There’s no reason why a country full of deracinated Mexicans, or Hondurans, or Brazilians, or whoever it is, is going to outcompete China who has a strong, if nothing else you can say about them has a strong sense of who they are and kind of this work ethic that means they are competitive and they’re willing to export and sell and buy. And all the rest of it.

 

So, yeah, I don’t see why not.

 

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Mark Collett: You’ve got to remember as well, that the Chinese are very interesting people, in that they are racially aware. And they are all very, very proud to be Chinese and want China to be the best! They want China to be the preeminent global superpower. Now, there are very few Britons alive today that want Britain to be a global superpower. And that’s a very interesting thing.

 

And you even see that in the gaming world. If you ever play a computer game, and you get beaten by somebody from China, you will just hear them screaming down the microphone:

 

“China number one! China number one!”

 

They want to dominate everything. [chuckling] They’ve got this sort of fierce racial pride in everything they do. And it’s comical! Because if I beat somebody, Call of Duty Wars, and if we win a game which very rarely happens, I can assure you, I don’t scream down the mic, :

 

“Britain’s number one!”

 

Even for somebody like me, that would seem absurd.

 

But they have national pride in everything they do, even winning an online multiplayer game, which tells you an awful lot about the Chinese as a people. And I think that’s very important. And I do think it does put you into this mindset that as America becomes more racially mixed and the more the Whites, completely deracinated, and there is an uptick in this sort of racial turmoil and diversity hires, which always seem to result in lower productivity and more chaos, you can see China just surpassing the US in every sense. And when that happens, well, there’s going to be a complete rebalancing of power. And I think you will know when that has happened. Because the first casualty will be Taiwan will be invaded.

 

Aunt Sally, do you have any comments on the Chinese?

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah, I agree with what you said.

 

I mean, they really have a racial pride of themselves as a people. They don’t deserve to have it about their products, because everything I get is Chinese. I’ve got to the point now where I look to see where something’s made. And if it’s Chinese I’m not buying it, because it’s junk. It’s junk!

 

But one of the things that puzzles me is trade, like how trade works. And it’s going off topic. But it’s like, if I want to buy something from America, just a book, just a book from America, it costs $40 to get imported here.

 

But if you buy something from China, it’s free. So I don’t know what the trade deals are, but no wonder China is a superpower when our government have something in place where they get free postage everywhere.

 

As far as the politics go, China and Russia are superpowers. And I think India is going to be the next one. It’ll be the third superpower. And we are deracinated. We are a global minority now. And that really, really worries me, particularly when you think that of that minority, an awful lot of those are boomers. Sorry, Mark, I’m not up on politics. I don’t really, I’m not listening to the news anymore.

 

Mark Collett: Okay. Thank you for that. The same Superchatter said:

 

“Hey, Mark and PA, Europe and the US have enjoyed multiculturalism and diversity. But now it’s Israel’s turn. Please help and support the message of open borders for Israel.”

 

Thank you very much. Also said:

 

“Even Colonel Gaddafi warned about Europe turning black in 2009. He noted, millions of sub-Saharan Africans want it to come in. If an African leader can recognize this, Western leaders are complicit.”

 

Now, this, I think, is really, really interesting. Really interesting, the Colonel Gaddafi stuff.

 

Now, Colonel Gaddafi was somebody who did prevent migrants flooding through his country. And he was a blockade, if you like, to mass migration into Europe. But he was obviously completely shut down and prevented from doing that. Obviously, his country was destabilized, and with a Western backed coup, he was killed.

 

But isn’t it really amazing, when you think about it, that he was saying, he said a long time ago that people were to get rid of him, if people were to do away with Gaddafi and his regime, that would lead to this absolute tidal wave of people flooding through Libya to get to Europe. And that’s what happened.

 

And Western leaders, for no real reason, destabilized Libya and replaced him as leader, even though they have no business. Libya is obviously a sovereign nation.

 

I mean, Natty and Aunt Sally, I don’t know how much you want to talk about this. But that’s an interesting point, isn’t it? It sort of plays into things that Jean Raspail was talking about, that the Western liberal elite are playing every card in their hand in order to bring this about, even to the point of destabilizing nations, which obviously always leads to further mass immigration.

 

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Natty: So I actually had this in my notes about the book in that there are these kind of linchpin moments in history, the shooting of Franz Ferdinand that kicked off the First World War, the invasion of Poland, maybe as part of what happened in the Second World War. In the book, this incident at the Belgian embassy kicks off the invasion fleet heading to Europe.

 

But in reality, it was Gaddafi and the destruction of Libya and the destruction of Gaddafi’s government that led to this.

 

And if you put your conspiracy hat on, although I guess it’s not really conspiratorial to say that if Gaddafi understood this, when he was saying, :

 

“If you get rid of me, you are going to face this tidal wave of people flooding up from Africa in the Middle East and wherever else coming across the Mediterranean.”

 

If he understood that, then the people who were getting rid of him, namely the American regime, they obviously understood that too, which has to make you think, well, that’s exactly what they wanted, or part of what they wanted, whether it was a bonus on top of whatever else they were doing in the region. That’s what happened.

 

And as a result, not only did it lead to this gathering of people on the southern shores of the Mediterranean who wanted to cross to the northern shores, that’s just procedural, right? But it showed and exposed something that the book talks about as well, is that Europe had no backbone and no moral fiber to deal with it and stop it happening.

 

So, of course, everyone sees this, everyone recognizes it and so it just continues at pace and picks up pace. And even when it was happening back in, I think it was 2016, or 2015, people in this country were warning:

 

“This is going to be happening in the Channel soon enough. We’re a couple of years away from all of this being on our doorstep.”

 

And, of course nothing was done about it. Everyone just kind of turned over. Politicians ignore that kind of warning. And now, here we are. So history is a continuation. It’s not just stop, start, there’s cause and there’s effect, for everything.

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah. The thing about Gaddafi, I remember him and I had so much admiration for him when I was younger, just, :

 

“Oh, Gaddafi is doing this.”

 

And I’m talking through the 80s and 90s. He was almost a bit of a hero, if I’m honest. But the media did everything they could to demonize him. And they made out he was evil incarnate. But you could see through it. I could see through it. Like he ruled his country with an iron rod. I think they loved him, didn’t they? His people? They didn’t hate him. Although the press would make out that he was an evil despot, wouldn’t they?

 

But I was actually quite sad when they killed him. But at the time, I wasn’t aware of what’s going on now. I didn’t see the connection. But he was so right, what he said was going to happen, happened. And the rest really it’s all happening now, isn’t it? Just because of that one man’s death this is all happening. But, yeah, I liked him. I kind of had respect for Saddam Hussein as well. I’m not sure what was lies and what was truth, what we were told about.

 

Mark Collett: Everything was lies with him. I mean, he literally didn’t do anything. He didn’t have any of the Weapons Of Mass Destruction that they said he did. He just wanted a strong state for his people.

 

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Aunt Sally: Yeah, and I saw at the time, he was another evil incarnate as far as our media was concerned. But I saw things about his people loving him and shrines to him and thinking:

 

“Well, how could they love him? How’s that happening?”

 

I mean, do you remember all these dead children that were gassed by Saddam Hussein that our media put out? So now, I can look back to things in the media, things in the press at the time, the propaganda they were giving us to hate somebody. And it was like all these children that he poisoned gassed.

 

I don’t know if you remember that photo, because it was quite an iconic photo at the time, these little Toddlers just laying face down dead because of him. And then what followed from that was, I don’t think they killed him then. But there was a drive to arrest him and catch him and kill him. But, yeah, I didn’t know what to make of him. But I didn’t quite believe what I was reading, even though I didn’t know what I know now.

 

Mark Collett: You know what’s always interesting as well, Sally. And I’m going to pose this question to you both. But I want you to answer it first. Obviously, gassings have a very special cultural power over us. But haven’t you noticed whenever a mad Middle Eastern despot has to be taken care of, it’s always because they’ve gassed somebody! It was the same with Al Assad in Syria. It was a gas attack! That was the reason why America had to start dropping bombs with Saddam Hussein. He gassed his enemies. And do you think this is something that is used, because it obviously has a mental connection for people to that certain history that people have been completely brainwashed over?

 

Aunt Sally: You know what I mean? He gassed his enemies. No, he killed children. Men, women and children. That was what we were shown. That was all the photos in the newspaper of these poor little Toddlers, these little Arab children all laying in the sand, frothing at the mouth. And I’ve seen something as well with the White Hats. They’ve done that quite a few times, the gassing thing.

 

But, yeah, this does seem to be a fixation with gassing going on somewhere, doesn’t it? That’s for sure. I forgot about Assad as well. He’s supposed to have done it. Why would you gas them? Why would you gas them? So there’s evidence. You just round them all up and throw them in hole, bury them! Why gas them and then let people take photos of it?

 

Natty: Careful Sally! [chuckling] It was a stupid, dubious incident in Syria that almost led us in there. Yeah, history repeats itself!

 

Mark Collett: It certainly does. We’ve got some final Superchats. One more from a good friend who sent several ones he put:

 

“Camp of the Saints was ahead of its time. Steve Sailor is the only person talking about the most important statistic in the world. 4.5 billion Africans by 2100! 50% of the youth want to go to Europe.”

 

Yeah, as we said throughout this stream, the one thing that Jean Raspail got wrong for me was where this was coming from. Now, I’m not saying Indians don’t want to come here. I’m not saying that having lots of Indians coming here would be a bad thing. Of course it would. But I don’t see this Indian problem.

 

The problem is Africa. And Africa is the one part of the world where the population growth is, you know, explosive! And they are going to be heading here. I remember back in my early days of YouTube, I did a video saying 100 million Africans, or 200, I can’t remember it’s either 100 million, or 200 million headed to Europe. And this came from a speech from, actually, a French official, which is quite poetic considering we’re talking about a French author and a book which is largely set based around the fate of France.

 

But, yeah, they are coming here in large numbers. Rory Herbert gave £3. Thank you so much, Rory. And he said:

 

“Dear Mark, would you consider reviewing the novel Lord of the Flies, written by William Golden in 1954, or the film of the same name?”

 

I think it might be an interesting topic. Because yeah, you know what? I’ve actually read The Lord of the Flies. It’s been a long time since I have. And I always found that book quite disturbing, especially the end. There’s a lot that can be taken from that. I would be actually interested in reading Lord of the Flies again.

 

And as I say, I remember reading that in school. And Cheesy Watson gave a generous £25. Thank you so much, my friend. He said:

 

“Another book on a similar theme to Camp of the Saints is Fugue.”

How do you pronounce that? F-U-G-U-E. How do you pronounce hat Natty? I’m expecting you all know, because I don’t.

 

Natty: Sorry, Mark, I’m struggling to hear you. My audio is breaking up a little bit there.

 

Mark Collett: How do you pronounce the word? F-U-G-U-E?

 

Aunt Sally: Is it French?

 

Natty: Fugue? I think you could be in a fugue state. I think.

 

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Mark Collett: Yes, that’s it. I didn’t want to read it out incorrectly:

 

“Fugue for a Darkening Island by Christopher Priest. It details civil war when African refugees flood Britain. Interesting. It was published around 1971, just before Camp of the Saints. Not sure if it’s any good, though.”

 

I would definitely be interested in reading that if it’s similar. And this is African refugees flooding Britain. And it was published in 1971.

 

By the way, Sally, you were correct. He wrote the book, or finished the book in 1972, when I said it was he wrote it in 1973. What I meant was it was originally published in 1973. But yeah. Thank you for that, Cheesy. What’s it. I’m going to see if that one is actually available.

 

And, yes, it is. You can get that on Ebay for as little as £3.49. And I’ll read you the premise of this. The novel story is told in an acronylogical fashion, jumping back and forth between several time periods. The protagonist, a former Professor of English named Alan Whitman, is initially concerned only with protecting his wife and daughter, but is gradually drawn further into the broader conflict over the course of events. And it says:

 

“It is brought about by the rise of a new third party who enter government and combat a massive influx in African refugees, which have been allied in part by the principal opposition faction known as the Secessionist, culminating into a multiple party conflict.”

 

So, yeah, that would be very, very interesting. And obviously it’s by an English writer.

 

So, yeah, would absolutely review this. Obviously, we probably [words unclear] next month. Because it would be like two books that are identical back to back. But, yeah, and the author is still alive. He’s 79. So maybe we could wrangle it and get him on the show? But that sounds very interesting. Have we lost Natty? We’ve lost Natty. He said he was having troubles.

 

Aunt Sally: Yeah, he’s gone.

 

Mark Collett: He’ll be fine. And we got another question. This is from Jack Bevan. He said, :

 

“Would you be interested in reviewing Liberalism Unmasked by Richard Houk? He’s a writer for Counter-Currents?”

 

Yeah, well, look, anyone from Counter-Currents is welcome to come on. Richard Houk, if you’re reading this, or if anyone can get him to email us, would happily review his book, he’d be more than welcome to come on the show. So the answer to that is, absolutely! We certainly would review your book, my friend. So, yes.

 

As I say, Natty is still gone. And we’re getting to the point of the night where we’re about to wrap up. So that is very unfortunate, because we certainly want his wise words on the roundup at the end.

 

So, yeah, we’ll discuss a few other things and hopefully he will be back in the next couple of minutes. He’s probably rebooting his computer as we speak. Computers are obviously a bit of a pain in the butt and can be very irritating.

 

But, yeah, I want to say just a couple of final things about this. I just think it’s quite poetic, really, that we’re reviewing this book tonight, especially considering the protests that I’ve been at over the last few weekends. I think that everything that Jean Raspail said, other than them coming from India was largely-oh he’s back!-was largely correct. And I do think it makes for a very entertaining book. Natty, can you hear us? Can you hear me?

 

Natty: Can you guys hear me?

 

Mark Collett: You’re back. We’ve got a $5 Superchat. Somebody saying:

 

“Would we ever review two of the books written by William Pierce?”

 

No, we absolutely wouldn’t! I don’t recommend anybody in Britain seek out the books of William Pierce. I’m not saying the guy was a bad man. He did some excellent work. But some of his books are likely to be the kind of book that could get you into some trouble. And we certainly wouldn’t recommend that you read, or seek out any texts that could get you into bother. And we certainly do not endorse any form of violent direct action, or anything that could lead to any individual who is interested in nationalism getting into trouble.

 

We believe that the only way is peaceful, Democratic community building. And that is what we’re investing in. As I said, I think Dr William Pierce did some very good work throughout his life. But some of his books could well be books that are on that secret government banned list, which is enforced in a very unfair way. What I mean, by that is you can go to Waterstones, or WH Smith and buy certain books. And if you’re an anarchist, or a Leftist, there’s nothing wrong with that.

 

But if you happen to be a nationalist and you pick up those books, you will be arrested. And people have gone to jail for owning them. So there is definitely selective enforcement of the law there. So if you’re basically an Antifa terrorist, you can own those books.

 

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But if you are a nationalist who might be curious about what’s in those books, you could get arrested. So what I’m saying is. You need to be very, very careful what you do. And we want to channel all of our energies into things that are legal, above board and are based around building communities and changing the political landscape. So we absolutely don’t endorse those books.

 

Anyway, what we should do is now head towards wrapping up this show. I think it’s been a very good show tonight. And we started a few minutes late. I’m sure everyone wants to get off at around 09:00, because it’s Sunday night.

 

So Aunt Sally is now the first one on my panel. So, Aunt Sally, do you want to give your final thoughts on this book. And whether you recommend it? I think it’s going to be pretty scathing.

 

Aunt Sally: .. I think it’s very much a man’s book. It’s not my cup of tea. I really didn’t like it. Almost traumatized by it. It’s horrible! But there are some very interesting lessons to be learnt, or to be had from it. So it’s not a bad book, it’s just really just not my thing at all. Yeah, but everyone else seems to rave about it. You both liked it, I think. But I’m a woman and I’m playing the girl card. It’s not for me. It’s nothing in it that, … Politics bore the hell out of me anyway.

 

But the interesting parts are the way that the liberals acted. And I thought, then how did he know that’s how they would act all the way back then? It’s worth a read if it’s your cup of tea. It’s not mine. Sorry. Anyway, I’ll pop it back.

 

Mark Collett: Well, thank you so much Aunt Sally. I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy the book. And obviously we don’t try to foist books upon you that you don’t enjoy. But, yeah, not every book is going to be for every man, or every woman.

 

So, Natty, I think your take is going to be slightly different to Aunt Sally’s. Do you recommend this book? Did you enjoy it? What’s your final thoughts, my friend?

 

Natty: Yeah, definitely. Not only is it an enjoyable book. Again it’s one of those books that’s quite important for it’s time. I’ll tell you what, on a personal level as well, it’s written a little bit like Starship Troopers and the way Robert Heinlein wrote in that there’s kind of political ideas and political essays coming out of some of the mouths of the characters in what is a novel form, which I really enjoy…

 

I think it’s quite easy when you have a book, a non-fiction book, it can get a bit dry and stale. But if you have political ideas coming out of the mouths of characters who are also taking certain actions, whether it’s going to war, or defending borders, or whatever they’re doing, it makes it much more interesting.

 

So there’s a lot of that in this book.

 

So, yeah, definitely. Highly recommended! Highly recommended!

 

Mark Collett: Okay, well, I’ll give you my final thoughts. I like this book, and I liked it for a few reasons. I liked it because it was very much a story told on a macro level that dived into a few different individuals and showed their story, but without really focusing. There wasn’t sort of one hero, or one central character. And I think that’s a very bold move! I think that’s a very difficult kind of book to write and to make it compelling. But it’s something I like.

 

I always really enjoy the beginning of zombie films where you start to see the crumbling of society and the zombie sort of taking over. And I tend to not enjoy the second half of those films where it just becomes the same well trodden heroes journey of five people fighting their way out of a shopping centre, or making their way to an airport to refit the last helicopter that can fly out of there and escape.

 

I like seeing how everything changes and society collapses. And I like actually watching that take place, or I’ve always wanted to watch that take place over the entire course of the film. But you never get this.

 

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And I felt this book was really bold in the it showed you everything on a macro level. And it also wrote things from a certain perspective where you felt this impending doom. And as a reader, you’re constantly hoping that something was going to change. You were constantly thinking:

 

“Oh my gosh, can this be stopped?”

 

And it doesn’t! Which leads to quite a shocking ending, an ending that sort of gives you a slap around the face with a wet fish.

 

And that’s a good thing as well, because this author, he wrote things in a different way and he made you think about things. And there’s so much of it that’s prophetic. There’s so much of it which sort of draws on history, like the Haitian revolution.

 

And so much of it is relevant to the current struggle that we are engaged in. So much of that book can be applied to what’s happening today. And obviously so much so, that it has influenced people like Steve Bannon, who was really the mastermind behind Trump’s successful 2016 run.

 

So I definitely recommend picking this up. There’s a link in the description below to a copy on Archive.org, which is free. There is the full PDF that can be downloaded from my Telegram. And there’s also the audio book in several parts that can be downloaded from my Telegram. Obviously, they’re all free. So please do feel that you can go and get this book and enjoy it.

 

And obviously, if you want a physical copy in English, Claymore Books do have one coming out. But at the moment, physical copies in English are very rare and do fetch well over £100 per copy. I mean, I’ve seen them go for over 200. So that’s quite a lot for a book.

 

But it is obviously highly sought after, because it is one of those books you could say is a formative read. It’s something that helps people form their opinions and solidify their work, solidifies their worldview. And it does it all, probably with a little bit of Sci-Fi, with a little bit of that dystopian future. Which I do think Sally is very right when she says it’s certainly more of a male book than it is a female book.

 

So maybe if you are a female, you wouldn’t enjoy this as much. But considering it’s free and considering it’s available in audio format, I definitely do believe that this could be something that you may well enjoy. And as it’s free, I suggest giving it a whirl.

 

So, yeah, that’s my thoughts. And obviously everyone’s giving their thoughts. So that comes to the end of the stream. Obviously the stream has been slightly shorter tonight, because we’re having a couple of technical issues getting started. But I hope you’ve enjoyed it all the same. It’s only about five minutes shorter than usual anyway. So I think we’ve managed to wrap up just in time.

 

So I will be back next week. On Wednesday. We’ve got two guests on Patriotic Weekly Review. It’s going to be Laura Tower and Emily Yukis. It’s going to be a bit of a woman’s hour. So they will be doing what women do best, which is chat a lot. And you can obviously join them. And you can ask them your questions.

 

We should also be back next Friday night for a big stream. It’s going to be our monthly roundup stream and obviously if you’ve been living under a rock, you’ll have missed the fact that Patriotic Alternative have had probably one of their biggest ever months. It’s been a month to remember.

 

We’ve had several demos, which would be massive. I’ve spoken at two separate massive anti-immigrant demos, both of them with well over 100 people there. About 115 in Leeds, about 200 to 215 in Hull. So that’s been a busy month. So you can have the full round up there.

 

And Laura and Sam will be back tomorrow night with Teatime with Sam and Laura. So you can check that out too. And obviously we will be back at the end of next month for another edition of Book Club. And I’m talking to an author who’s contacted me through Twitter, who wants to send me and the guys here a copy of his book.

 

And next month we will be joined by another reviewer as well, a guy called Bill Aithling from Wales who is a PA activist. So we’re going to get the numbers back up to four reviewers. I hope you’ll all be looking forward to that. Anyway, everyone, if you can, please give you goodbyes and say good night and we’ll wrap things up.

 

Aunt Sally: Goodbye, everyone. Thanks for listening.

 

Natty: See you later, guys. See you next month. Look forward to whatever book comes down the pipe. Have a good evening.