Joel Davis: We are live. It is another episode of the show, [Oct 9, 2024] the Joel Blair, Tom and Jacob show this evening and I got the man himself right here. Should be a great show tonight. Big few days for Jacob and big few days in Australian politics as a result of that. Very interesting dynamics. A lot to break down.

 

Where to begin? Maybe I’ll play this clip from the news today just to give everyone a little bit of a taster. And this is from Ten News.

 

Ten News: (Samantha Butler) White supremacist Jacob Hersant has been sent home on bail despite becoming the first Victorian to be found guilty of performing the Nazi salute. The 25 year old will likely be sent to prison in a month, but he’s currently using his freedom to continue to spruik his extremist views.

Ten News: Jacob Hersant thought he was being sent to jail.

 

Jacob Hersant: I regret nothing.

 

Ten News: He reiterated his extremist views as he entered the Magistrates Court.

Jacob Hersant: I will appeal this and these anti-White and tyrannical laws will be shut down. And if I have to suffer in that process, I’m more than willing to do that.

 

Ten News: The 25 year old father was yesterday found guilty of performing the Nazi salute.

 

[Outside court on a previous occassion.]

 

Jacob Hersant: Nearly did it! It’s illegal now, isn’t it!

 

Ten News: He became the first person charged under new Victorian law.

 

[Outside court on this occassion.]

 

Reporter: (male) Are you embarrassed about this?

 

Jacob Hersant: No, I’m proud to serve my nation.

 

Reporter: (male) What is there to be proud about?

Jacob Hersant: Fighting for our rights as White Australians, to express ourselves politically.

 

Ten News: The magistrate indicated the self proclaimed neo-Nazi would be sentenced to time in prison. He brought along his mum and fellow White supremacist Thomas Sewell.

Thomas Sewell: The laws are unconstitutional.

 

Ten News: But Hersant was sent home.

Reporter: (female) It was a bizarre about face by magistrate Brett Sonnet to grant bail just hours after telling Hersant he would be taken into custody. But the 25 year old’s freedom is likely to be short lived. He’ll return to court in four weeks to be sentenced.

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m prepared, you can see this bag here. I’m prepared to go to jail for my beliefs and for the rights of White Australians to express themselves politically.

 

Ten News: He’ll be sentenced on November 8. Samantha Butler for Ten News First.

 

Blair Cottrell: Well, the responses Jacob gave were excellent! You were calm, you were concise, that was great! But what happened today, boys? What was going on? Why was Jacob in court and what was going on with the judge, the sentencing? Help me understand.

 

Thomas Sewell: Probably best for Jacob to start off.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I was in court today particularly because I’ve been convicted of giving a gesture that resembles the Nazi salute. So I wasn’t convicted of giving a Nazi salute.

 

But hold on, I’m just, I’m having a bit of repeating here.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re coming through clear on my end.

 

Joel Davis: There you go.

 

Jacob Hersant: There you go. Okay, we figured it out. So I wasn’t actually convicted of giving a Nazi salute. I was convicted of giving a gesture, a Nazi gesture that resembles the Nazi salute.

 

So I was convicted for that. And today was sentencing. So this wasn’t a contest mention, but a contest. I had already been found guilty, and today was to decide what the punishment would be.

 

Now, the punishment wasn’t completely decided today, but the magistrate decided that being convicted for this crime warranted a sentence of imprisonment. But he did not decide how long that sentence would be. He said that it would be comparatively short, or words to that effect, which, …

 

Blair Cottrell: What is that? What’s the maximum amount of time you’re looking at?

 

Jacob Hersant: One year in prison. I suspect that it won’t be anywhere near that long, if I was to hazard a guess. I’d say perhaps like a month or two months or something like that is what I’m looking to get, if I’m honest.

 

Today there was a dispute whether or not I would be actually remanded. And remanded just means that I basically get thrown into prison before the full sentence is given out. So my bail, well, I wasn’t actually originally on bail, but basically what people think of bail being revoked, that is what would happen, and I would be thrown into prison.

 

So when he went behind the closed doors after the submission of the prosecution and my defense lawyer, he took probably five to ten minutes behind closed doors to come to his decision. And when he came walking in, there was two prison guards that came walking in. So that kind of spoiled the surprise of what the sentence was going to be. It was pretty obvious at that point that it was going to be a sentence of imprisonment. And they came bumbling in. There were like chains shaking on them. It was quite the, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Is that the G4S private security company?

 

Jacob Hersant: Oh, I presume. So they look more like security guards than they then they do police officers or anything like that.

 

Blair Cottrell: Sounds like G4S.

 

But it’s my understanding that to be remanded in custody during a delay in sentencing, that only happens for serious criminals, and it doesn’t really happen at all! I personally, when I was younger, I was charged with arson and aggravated burglary as a young scamp, and there was a delay in deciding what my sentence would be, even though it was indicated that I was going to go to prison. My bail was extended, and I was released back into the community pending the next sentencing date. So they tried to throw you in jail. Are you even on bail? Isn’t this a summary offence?

 

[06:32]

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m not on bail. I never even got arrested. They just asked me to voluntarily come in to give an interview. I went in and they asked me a few questions about my personal life, how I’m doing, how I’m feeling. And they didn’t even take me into a room or anything. They just tried to do it literally in the lobby of the police station. They were telling me, like:

 

“Oh, can you tell us about blah, blah, blah?”

 

And I just said:

 

“No comment.”

 

To everything. And they got pretty frustrated, pretty quickly. And I was there for maybe two minutes, and then they just said they intend to charge me with the giving the Nazi salute. Yeah, and I left.

 

So I was never arrested. I’ve only just been charged with it. So I wasn’t given bail or anything. It was basically very, very casual., …

 

Blair Cottrell: And then let me say, this so I understand this. The magistrate today, he wants to sentence you to jail time. He hasn’t decided how long he wants to sentence you to jail time or how much time he wants to give you, but he was trying to put you in jail to wait until he decides how long he wants you to do!

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes. And he was going to take two weeks to make that decision, even though we had the judgement.

 

So the day before today, which was the sentence, was the judgement. So finding out whether or not I’m guilty or not guilty, so he was willing to do it literally the next day for this. But then when he was trying to jail me, he’s like:

 

“Oh, I might take two weeks to decide this, and I’m going to remand you, and you can spend two weeks in jail while I come up with the decision of how long you will be imprisoned.”

 

And it was very confusing to everybody in the courtroom, exempting the magistrate, obviously, …

 

Joel Davis: Even the prosecutor! The prosecutor even argued on his behalf, saying that this is, kind of shocked by the judge trying to do this.

 

Blair Cottrell: Wow!

 

Joel Davis: Particularly egregious because the judge knew that Jacob’s Lawyer told the judge:

 

“As soon as you hand down the sentence of whatever it is, we’re immediately walking into the Supreme Court and lodging an appeal.”

 

Which would then grant Jacob bail if he did give him a custodial sentence.

 

So this was all like, if he decided to charge him, even with one year jail, Jacob would still walk out free today, or maybe tomorrow morning, if they screwed around with the paperwork.

 

So it was a way for him, if Jacob was to win in the Supreme Court and walk out free, which I think he will, was a way for him to make sure Jacob at least gets some punishment, even if he ultimately gets found not guilty and the law struck down as unconstitutional.

 

Blair Cottrell: But the prosecution was actually against the judge’s decision to make Jacob wait in jail for the sentencing. Is that right? They argued against the judge.

 

Jacob Hersant: They were nervous. Everybody was visibly nervous. My lawyer said after we went into recess, so we could have some hours to come up with an argument for why I shouldn’t be remanded. He was like:

 

“My heart was beating. I never expected that!”

 

And I just said to him:

 

“I’ve learnt to expect anything in magistrate’s court.”

 

Lawyers always, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, well, you should have said:

 

“Welcome to nationalism, mate. Welcome to our politics. [chuckling] Expect the unexpected!”

 

Jacob Hersant: That’s it! And I’ve learnt to just never be confused by this. I’ve never really., … You just can’t open yourself to naively believing that you’re just going to be treated like every other criminal, actual criminals, like you’re a political criminal. And there are very different rules for you. So when lawyers assure me:

 

“No, this usual practice is, this is going to be the punishment or they won’t pursue this.”

 

It’s always turned out to be worse than what they assess. Which I don’t blame them. That’s all right. They don’t know necessarily about my, our political struggle and how much the state is willing to go after us, even if it means bending the rules or in some case breaking them.

 

The other time I was in court, in the magistrate’s court, I had to represent myself because I couldn’t get Legal Aid. And four stickers. So Bill Postering charges. So I pleaded guilty to the Bill Posting charges, and the magistrate, who was a woman, tried to give me an above the maximum fine for it.

 

And then the prosecution tried to have all my property that was seized during the investigation destroyed, even though they can’t even do that under the law.

 

So, yeah, the fine was eventually lowered because you can’t give above the maximum.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh man! It’s my experience as well, like, I was treated more fairly as a legitimate criminal by our legal system, at least in Victoria, than I was as a political dissident. It’s like as soon as you have ideas that challenge the system or that, quote unquote, “offend the system”, then suddenly it’s just open season on you, right? Like the way the law is written it’s written in such a way where it sounds really harsh, but due to standard legal practice, it’s never actually applied that harshly.

 

But the way the law is written allows them to be extremely harsh, at least with Australian law, that’s my understanding, if they so choose. And when you’re a political dissident, that’s when they really use the full extent of the law against you.

 

So what are your thoughts? Thomas Sewell? You’ve been a bit quiet so far. You attended court today, is that right?

 

[12:28]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I was with Jacob today. I took a lot of notes. And Jacob’s covered a good bunch of how it went.

 

The first thing I’ll say is the judge is very obviously a homosexual. He was strangely hung up.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah. [chuckling] Sorry. Like, do you know this for sure? Like, there’s a lot of speculation going on with this guy’s homosexual on this show.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, he’s like a homosexual version of the leader of House Harkonnen in Dune. You know, House Harkonnen. Have you watched Dune where the guy flies?

 

Blair Cottrell: That guy actually is a homosexual, isn’t he? Doesn’t he have, oh, in the book. He is in the books, he has like boy slaves or something that he drugs.

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, this guy was more powerful. That’s what he would be. Yeah, he had the same physionomy.

 

And interestingly, we did a bit of research into him. His brother actually was convicted of stabbing someone with your favourite weapon of choice, a tomahawk, for a pack of cigarettes. And did, I think he got sentenced to 15 months in jail.

 

So that’s pretty interesting how the judge’s brother or the magistrate’s brother, I should say, because he’s not a judge. The magistrate’s brother did 15 months for stabbing someone in the chest with a tomahawk.

 

But then Jacob is under threat of doing twelve months in jail for lifting his arm up. And the judge is talking about how, like, reprehensible and disgusting Jacob’s behaviour is and how he’s like a horrible person because of his ideology, but it’s like his own brother, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe that’s why I never got this guy as a magistrate, because it would have been conflict of interest with the tomahawk thing. [chuckling] But was the magistrate enjoining it? Was he enjoying convicting Jacob?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Blair Cottrell: Was he enjoying this whole process?

 

Joel Davis: He loved that there was all the media attention on this. Like, he got to be special like this because he’s a magistrate. All the cases, …

 

Blair Cottrell: If I’m not mistaken, it was a constitutional matter. So you almost never see arguments like that at magistrate’s level.

 

So it was like an opportunity for him, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

He was very political. So he did what I would call like a “political sandwich” when he did his sentencing. So he started his sentencing by talking about how abhorrent Jacob’s political views were and how he disagrees with Jacob’s political views and how Jacob’s political views are disgusting and that no normal person could possibly agree with them and that they’re evil. And basically he wants to kill all the jews.

 

And then in the middle of the sentencing he said:

 

“Oh, but I just want to make it clear that I’m not punishing Jacob because of his political views.”

 

And then at the end, he finished off with basically cross examining Jacob’s Lawyer, asking Jacob’s Lawyer to explain:

 

“What does ‘hail Hitler’ mean? What does ‘Australia for the Whiteman’ mean? Does this imply that Jacob wants to kill millions of people?”

 

And the lawyer was like:

 

“I don’t have instruction for that.”

 

And he was like:

 

“Well, you know how are they going to make Australia White? So if Australia is for the Whiteman, how are they going to make it White? Are they going to kill all the brown people? Are they going to kill all the disabled people? Are they going to kill like the majority of Australians? Is that what they’re advocating for?”

 

Blair Cottrell: So he asked all of this and inquired into the ideology, but then claimed the ideology didn’t matter? Then why did he ask these questions?

 

Joel Davis: So that it contextualised all the evidence.

 

Blair Cottrell: But all of that’s hearsay. Like, Jacob hasn’t done any of those things. It’s about what Jacob has done up until that date and whether or not that constitutes a crime. So why is he asking these questions?

 

Joel Davis: Well, he said that it contextualised the salute because he says the salute offended the sensibilities of non-Whites. But what was interesting as well, he wasn’t just talking about murder, he was talking about deportation. So he was effectively making the argument that the salute was offensive because Jacob said “Australia for the Whiteman”, which is a slogan that predates Australia itself. [i.e., before Federation in 1901] And he representing an ideology that was the founding ideology of this country held by the first half of our prime ministers, the first half of our federated nation’s history was the dominant ideology that ran the country. He was saying that deporting non-Whites en masse was itself a form of vilification, that the very act of throwing the kind of aborted Roman salute, if you will, the gesture that was almost a Roman salute, that basically it shows intent to offend the community and for the community to take offence, meaning the minorities. And therefore, this is like, built into the fundamental argument for why Jacob was guilty, apparently, which is that even though, yes, he acknowledged that Jacob’s right to political communication was being overruled, and that is a constitutional right that has been decided by the High Court, that nevertheless, protecting the state’s obligation to protect the feelings of minorities supervenes. Now this is why I’m confident that Jacob will win in the Supreme Court, because that argument doesn’t actually make any sense. It’s total bullshit! You either have communication or you don’t.

 

Blair Cottrell: Right. But is that the argument Jacob was actually convicted through? Is that what the judge said? Was that the reason for the conviction?

 

[17:45]

 

Joel Davis: Because this isn’t just about not getting, keeping Jacob out of jail. Jacob himself says he doesn’t really care about going to jail or not. This is about getting this law struck down! This is about defending the rights to political communication of all nationalists and all White Australians in general. So it’s about destroying these laws, which the jews scurried around and got passed all over the country and federally last year. And if we can win in the Supreme Court, well, then it’ll be struck down in Victoria.

 

And I think it will end up going to the High Court of Australia, because then that will then imply that the federal laws and the laws in the other states all need to be challenged as well, which will just bundle everything together into a High Court case.

 

So this could end up snowballing into a massive, massive deal over the subsequent weeks and months and maybe even years, it might take until it gets to the High Court and there’s a final decision. I don’t know how long the process will take, but that’s what this is about. That’s what we want. And we want ultimately, to come out of this with the ability to throw Roman salutes in public, to have swastikas and all the rest of it, but also to establish a High Court precedent so that the government, whether it be state or federal, can never pass laws of this nature ever again for any reason! Because we will have a precedent, therefore, in the High Court that no Australians have freedom of political communication that is then locked in.

 

So this is so much bigger than just keeping Jacob out of jail. It’s even bigger than getting back the Roman salute, the ability to perform Roman salutes in public. This is about, like the freedom of speech in this country, period.

 

So that’s why this is a very important, this is a very big issue already the last couple of days, massive media storm. But this will only become an even bigger and bigger and bigger issue as it goes up the courts because this is really like, where, do we have freedom of speech in this country or not is being gonna be tested. It hasn’t really been tested properly in many, many years. So this is a big deal.

 

And it’s important to, I think, build a big coalition, the libertarians, the conservatives. You know, if they sit back and allow this to be done to us, well, similar laws could be passed to clamp down on their free speech in other ways.

 

And so they have an obligation to kind of step in and provide community, public activistic support. I saw the Free Speech Union actually said on Twitter that they were willing to offer their support to Jacob as it goes up the courts. And that’s good to see. And the libertarian movement in particular, I think, has an obligation to step in and assist us and assist Jacob in particular, like in this matter, because what do they stand for otherwise? If you’re kind of free speech absolutist, if you’re all about our rights as Australians, and that’s really the essence of your political ideology, but you’re too pussy to defend it because we’re Nazis and you don’t want to seem like you’re sympathizing with Nazis, well, then you’re a complete fraud!

 

And I’m not accusing all libertarians of that because a lot of libertarians have been active on Twitter coming out publicly in support of Jacob. So it’s a good sign to see that a lot of them seem to be on our side. But there’s a lot of quiet voices. I didn’t hear anything from the Libertarian Party of Victoria, which is very disappointing. And I think they’re basically frauds unless they say something.

 

Blair Cottrell: There’s plenty of ways around direct affiliation or association or support as well. They can say:

 

“We don’t support what this guy believes, but, ..!”

 

So they can still show support that way.

 

Joel Davis: Of course, that’s the whole point of freedom of speech, is that it doesn’t, you don’t have to support the speech. You just support the freedom to disagree, the freedom to have any form of political communication you want. That’s the whole point of freedom. If you only support the freedom for people to agree with you, well, then it’s not a principle, like so, like legally.

 

The only speech that is decisive is the controversial speech, is the speech that has political and public opposition on this matter. If it was uncontroversial, if Jacob was conveying his opinion about tax policy, well, they’re not going to pass laws to prevent you from giving your opinion on tax policies. It’s not controversial. It’s only the Roman salute, the swastikas this kind of thing that really counts, just to test this out.

 

But it will be extended, as we’ve seen with the recent bill, the Misinformation Disinformation Bill. This government and this regime does not respect the freedom of political communication in this country. Like, they’re trying to shut it down in other ways as well. They’re trying to constrain discourse. We saw during Covid the way in which they basically institutionalised a giant gaslighting scheme on the entire country. They want to basically create a monopoly on truth that only the state approved major institutions that go along with the agenda of the state and of the jews and of the elite, the globalist elite, are allowed to articulate their views on any subject, and they’re increasingly marginalizing everybody else.

 

So whether you like it or not, libertarians, conservatives, freedom movement populists, whatever you want to call yourselves, you’re in this with the Nazis! You’re forced to be on Team Nazi on this issue. Team Nazi is Team Free Speech!

 

[23:12]

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, it’s the real look. You’re on fire tonight, Joel Davis, all very well said, and good on you for standing with Jacob today, showing solidarity. That’s good stuff. How long do you expect it will take a to get to the High Court? Because I think they’ll try to keep this at a state level as long as they can. Two years, three years? What do you guys expect?

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m not sure how long it will take because my lawyer talked to me about how he’s not sure which court to go to next.

 

So I would have suspected that it would have went from magistrates to county to Supreme Court of Victoria and then to the High Court. But he said that we can skip levels of the court system and it will just be down to him. I think my lawyer is a very capable and smart lawyer. His name is Timothy Smart, after all.

 

He did a very good job defending me in court. I am of the personal view that there was no chance that we were going to win in Magistrates Court. The “justice” in very, very, very big quotation marks, that I’ve seen at the magistrate’s court leaves a lot to be desired, to say the very least. So nonetheless, he put on a very, very strong defense. There was two arguments that he made. The first was not that I didn’t obviously give a gesture that was similar to the Roman salute, but that I did not give what would constitute a proper Roman salute. That I stopped myself before doing that. And by that I showed that I didn’t intend to give the salute and didn’t give the salute. So after all, the magistrate actually did agree with what he was saying. But he was just saying that because the law says that I gave a gesture that could be confused or could resemble that Roman salute, that is why I was convicted. So I wasn’t actually convicted of giving the Nazi salute. The magistrate says that I didn’t give the Nazi salute, but that I gave a gesture that could be confused for the Nazi salute, and therefore, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Perhaps you could say you gave an “illegal percentage” of a Nazi salute, which I would say was maybe 45%. That’s too much, Mr Hersant!

 

Now, Tom Sewell, you’re a pensive man, and you spent the whole day in court today watching this whole process. Got any interesting notes to share, any thoughts?

 

Thomas Sewell: The way he opened was very interesting. So I mentioned that sandwich before. What he said at the start, I think, is grounds for an appeal on itself time because, and we will need to get a court transcript to make sure this is exact. But what I have in my notes is he said that:

 

“A deterrent is very important for sentencing.”

 

So he’s been convicted. Now we’re looking at the reasons for the sentencing, like how severe is it going to be and why.

 

And so one of the first things they mentioned is deterrent. And he said:

 

“This needs to be a strong message sent as a deterrent, because Nazi ideology should not be tolerated. It is an assault against human dignity.”

 

So Jacob actually wasn’t at court for Nazi ideology. He was at court for a Roman salute gesture. But he quite interestingly worded the opening of his sentencing that Nazi ideology is not to be tolerated.

 

Now, that’s not his place to decide. That’s him going above and beyond the law. So it shows his political motivations to begin with. But it also shows that, as Joel articulated earlier this is bigger than just the Roman salute. It’s not just the salute that’s on trial here. It’s not just Jacob that’s on trial here. It’s not just free speech that’s on trial here. It’s actually National Socialism, as well, that’s on trial here. And you could tell by the end of the sandwich, the other part of the bread was him trying to cross examine National Socialist ideology and its implementation.

 

Another interesting quote was, unless you have something to add on that, another interesting quote was the judge referred to Jacob as “Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde”. And Jacob, actually, about a year ago asked me to read the book that was related to this phenomenon. I’m not sure of the exact situation, but I’m assuming it’s about a character that has a split personality.

 

Blair Cottrell: It’s an old British folklore tale, isn’t it? About the Doctor who creates a concoction that’s basically a super steroid. And it turns him into this, because he’s a frail man, but it turns him into this monster with great muscly power or something, but he also goes mad and starts killing people. And he becomes addicted to the serum, which makes him that way. I think that’s what it’s about.

 

Thomas Sewell: That was the psycho evaluation.

 

Blair Cottrell: Sorry, hang on Jacob, what do you think? What do you think about that? Do you think that’s applicable? What do you think about the Doctor Jekyll Mr Hyde reference?

 

[28:33]

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde’s just a small novella by Robert Louis Stevenson, and it’s about a doctor who’s a very, … He can moderate his appetites very well.

 

So he’s very kind of stoic person, and he can temper himself. But he makes this serum that basically allows him to indulge himself on his more baser self, his appetites and all these kind of things. And there’s a distinction between kind of the lower human, which is more animalistic, more driven to appetites and violence and things like that.

 

And then there’s the other human, which is other part of the human, which is Doctor Jekyll. Well, he’s a doctor. He’s a respected part of society. He’s got a big intellect, and he’s respected by everybody.

 

But the problem is when he takes the serum and becomes Mr Hyde and he indulges in his appetites, he starts to lose control of it, and he starts basically murdering people throughout the novella. And the whole time you’re just trying to figure out who this Mr Hyde is, but the whole time you find out later that Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde are the same person, but there is a drug that he takes that switches him. And the problem is that once he becomes Mr Hyde too many times he finds that he was turning, he was staying like Mr Hyde.

 

So once you kind of become that subhuman and obsessed with your appetites, there’s no way to return back to Doctor Jekyll.

 

Blair Cottrell: Sounds to me like an amphetamine habit. [chuckling] And I’m actually embarrassed by how little I understood that tale. The depth of that tale is actually really interesting. I thought it was something more simple. Why did the judge choose to use that reference for you, do you think?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I think he thinks when there was character references tended by my lawyer from people that were saying, I’m an intelligent young man, that I am very caring, that I’m a loving father, and all these kind of things that represents the Doctor Jekyll in me, the higher intellect and being more reserved and respected.

 

But then there’s another aspect of my nature, which is the Mr Hyde in me that goes out and gives us a Roman salute [chuckling] and screams racism under a Mass Deportations banner in Flinders Street. Outside Flinders Street.

 

So that’s basically what he was implying, that there’s two aspects to my personality that’s, basically one of them comes out in these kind of episodes of severe racism, and then when I go back to my normal life, I’m just a normal.

 

Blair Cottrell: That old implication or what he’s implying there is no sensible, logical human, no upstanding member of society would ever want to be racist or give a Roman salute. But that’s just not true. I mean, has this guy met Tom Sewell? Has this guy met Joel Davis? Or I suppose he met you guys today, kind of, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. Well, the problem is it is the same person every. I don’t have a drug that I take that turns me into a racist.

 

It’s not like I am addicted to a substance, whether it be alcohol or meth like you previously mentioned that turns me more racist. Some people actually are like that. They’ll have a few drinks and then they’ll start spouting racism. I’m perfectly conscious that I am racist 100% of the time, publicly, all the time, even in my private life. That doesn’t mean any non-White I see on the street. I’ll tell them they’re not welcome. I wish I had the Constitution for that, but I don’t.

 

And yeah, it’s just, it was very, very strange. I don’t think that was an apt. It’s a metaphor to use for me, but I do recommend everyone go read that book. It’s only about 3 hours long. At least the audiobook on YouTube. It is a masterpiece from Robert Louis Stevenson.

 

And I think you will just be very, very impressed with the ornate language. The way he writes is very impressive. And there’s a metaphor in, … Oh, sorry. There’s a subject matter in it that is very on one way simple, but he gets very philosophical with talking about the two aspects of our nature, the more kind of grounded in our biology, our appetites, our genetics. Yeah, the beast inside us.

 

And then there’s the high aspect, which is your intellect and all these things that are specifically human. So, I do recommend everyone read that. But I am not Doctor Jekyll, and I’m not Mr Hyde as of yet. Maybe if I, …

 

Bair Cottrell: Very curious. It’s very curious because I have noticed those two aspects of human nature, and leaning too far one way can cancel the other out. But Joel Davis, I saw, like, something resembling amusement trying to get through on your face. Have you got any thoughts?

 

Joel Davis: Well, yeah. Just like, what the philosophical implication would be that racism is an impulse that, like, within all human beings, there’s this insatiable, like, racist drive akin to a sex drive or hunger that just like, you, like, salivate when you see a KFC commercial, or you see a chick with a great rack walk past. They’re like every normal person, like, when they see a negro walking down the street, just wants to:

 

“Nigger!”

 

Like, as soon as they walk past. I wish it was like that, but it actually isn’t in many ways. I think. Yeah, our ideology is actually the product of a lot of deepest thinking and actually the overcoming of instinct.

 

I think the conformity of the masses to adopt the Liberal, egalitarian worldview is its not a product of deep refinement and self reflection and high civilisation. It’s actually the collapse of civilisation. It’s actually a very pathetic social conformity. Just a kind of drive to fit in which, you know, overcomes any capacity to have a rational discussion.

 

You know, if it was so irrational to be a racist, how come nobody wants to have a rational discussion with us about race? It’s because their opinion about racism is not based on rationality. Because they’re afraid of the very notion that they could rationally consider the worldview is itself morally reprehensible, which shows that it’s operating upon a pre-rational, there’s a pre-rational fear of even allowing themselves to entertain the concept.

 

So I think the truth is actually the inverse of what is being implied, if anything.

 

But also one thing that I noticed about today was that as Tom said, there was this kind of ebb and flow from the magistrate where he had this kind of this kind of like political condemnation of Jacob, but then at the same time did carry himself with this kind of it was like a split personality. Like at one point he was very kind of complimentary to Jacob in certain ways. And like, he apologised to Jacob at the end of the day.

 

Blair Cottrell: They do that. Judges do that to seem, … Yeah. They do it when they’re trying to seem balanced.

 

[36:50]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it was interesting. And ultimately he did end up making a fair decision at the end of the day to just to ajourn the whole thing. But after making us sweat.

 

And so all he did was just make sure that Channel Nine and Channel Seven and Channel Ten stayed out there from 09:00 in the morning until 03:30 in the afternoon, constantly making new news updates about what was happening, and just driving the media storm even more aggressively.

 

I mean, we see this as a propagandistic exercise, and he was just kind of assisting us. You know, the fear:

 

“Is Jacob gonna get locked up today?”

 

And then we’re rushing to do this like shitty video in the park in case he gets locked up. And then the melodrama of like the media interviewing him:

 

“You’re about to get thrown in jail, how do you feel about this?”

 

And then at the end of the day, we just kind of go home and it’s all over. And we go back in a month and figure out what happens next.

 

So it was kind of funny that he gave this it’s over with, so back cycle throughout the day that I thought just made it more entertaining and drove a stronger reaction. It’s almost like he is enjoying, as I said earlier, the fact that he gets to be like a main character in a story that people care about or something. But it doesn’t even matter what he decides. Like, it’s almost like we don’t care. Just give you a judgement because we’re immediately going to appeal it to another court anyway. [chuckling] So like, he has all this self importance, but his decision doesn’t actually fucking matter because he’s just a magistrate.

 

Blair Cottrell: Like you said, maybe that’s why he wanted to get him in jail, just so he can flex that he’s given some punishment because he’s actually ineffective at the end of the day, anyway.

 

But look, Jacob, you’re sitting here and in two weeks, …

 

Joel Davis: Four.

 

Blair Cottrell: You’re going to jail for an unknown amount of time. Sorry. Four weeks, is it?

 

All right, so four weeks. In four weeks time, you’re going to jail. You don’t know how long for, but you’re definitely going to jail for giving what could have been interpreted as a Roman salute. How are you feeling?

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, it’s not certain whether or not I’ll go in jail because we can just immediately appeal it, and I don’t get punished because ultimately it may be overturned in a higher court. So I’ll be remanded, I’ll be taken in, and then my lawyer will make an application for bail. I can’t see any reason why I wouldn’t be given bail based on the fact that this charge is a well, it’s giving a gesture, it’s a summary charge. It’s not like I’m a danger to the public, unless you believe Dvir Abramovich and other hysterical jews.

 

So I would just be let out perhaps in a day or in two days, depending on how quickly they can get me up before a, I guess perhaps it’ll be a county court judge, or a magistrate’s judge, or a magistrate, rather, and then I’ll basically just be released then.

 

So it could be a day in jail, but I’m happy to read that doesn’t sound too, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, I think, … But like, look, four weeks is a long time to delay a sentencing. Why do you think they’re waiting that long, Tom? Any perspective?

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, something that we sort of touched right at the start of the stream, but maybe haven’t fully fleshed out, is the biggest part of sentencing was actually not the sentencing itself. It was the argument about whether Jacob gets bailed to make an appeal, because we touched on the fact that there was a loophole, that the judge was doing a kind of dirty trick. And I have the notes here that are really interesting where the judge basically said, I’m going to remand Jacob, … Not remand. Yeah, he did say remand. He said:

 

“I’m going to remand Jacob, he’s going to go into custody and I’m going to make the decision in two weeks time.”

 

And Jacob’s Lawyer got up straight away and more or less, I don’t know if he said:

 

“I object.”

 

But he stopped straight away and objected to it and said:

 

“I’m going to put an application for bail.”

 

And the judge had this kind of cheeky look on his face and he said something along the lines of that:

 

“It doesn’t apply, it’s not applicable.”

 

And he’s kind of smiling and he was doing strange things with his mouth. [puffing up his cheeks and exhaling] He was doing this like he was just making strange gestures.

 

Blair Cottrell: It trikes me as anxiety when people fiddle around with their mouths.

 

[41:29]

 

Jacob Hersant: To be fair, I interacted with this magistrate on a number of occasions, and that is just something that is part of his character and his temperament.

 

Blair Cottrell: Something in our brain compelling him to do. [chuckling]

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, he just has worms in his brain.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, he just moves his head a lot.

 

Joel Davis: Does this thing a lot. [puffing up his cheeks and exhaling while leaning forward]

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, he does things like that’s just part of his personality.

 

Joel Davis: Really weird! [It might be some kind of homosexual thingy? – Kat]

 

Jacob Hersant: I don’t think it was, …

 

Joel Davis: A blowfish.

 

Blair Cottrell: Strange.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes, it wasn’t specific to this moment. So he does that universally through my experiences with him.

 

Blair Cottrell: What else is, …

 

Thomas Sewell: So word for it, he says:

 

“My intent is to remand the client, your client, in custody until sentencing.”

 

And then the defense says that:

 

“This deprives my client the chance to appeal rights, and I want to apply for bail.”

 

And the judge says:

 

“Well, you can’t apply for bail because he hasn’t been sentenced.”

 

And then the defense:

 

“But this is a summons.”

 

So Jacob is not under bail. He’s not under the Bail Act because he’s being summoned. So I’ve never been to a Freemason meeting, but when these kind of lawyers were arguing with each other, that’s what I assume a Freemason meeting must feel like. It was like they were speaking this legalese language and it was like this strange ritual. They were doing this dance with each other. And Jacob’s Lawyer was quite nervous, actually, because I think he fully understood what was happening but didn’t know the exact correct code to speak, to initiate the correct response, to engage the next stage, to get the conversation moving in the direction, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Unknown territory for a based lawyer.

 

Thomas Sewell: The magistrate was actually teasing, I feel the magistrate was actually teasing Jacob’s Lawyer, and Jacob’s Lawyer was aware of this and was doing his very best to remain calm and remain in control of the situation. But the judge was actually enjoying it. He was having a lot of fun kind of drawing him out and drawing him out of and making him fall into these traps that he had pre-laid for him.

 

But there was a bit of back and forth because the defense, Jacob’s Lawyer actually said:

 

“You need to be cautious about what you’re doing here, your honour. You need to be very cautious because you’re going into this territory where, I mean, I don’t want to say it, but you know what I’m about to say.”

 

And then the judge was like:

 

“Well, yes, I am being cautious. Listen, a term of imprisonment must be imposed.”

 

And then he asked the prosecution what he thought. And the prosecution actually defended Jacob. We did mention that earlier. But the prosecution brought up his legalese and talked about section four of the Bail Act.

 

And then the judge said:

 

“But that doesn’t apply. Only section 101 applies.”

 

And then the defense said:

 

“But section 265!”

 

And the judge says:

 

“No, only 101.”

 

And then they went into the wording of it. I’m confusing people. I know I’m confusing the audience. I’ve talked a lot about the subject. But what the judge says next is very important. He says:

 

“I’m not obliged, because in section 101, it says, you can only grant bail to someone that’s been sentenced. And in 265, and in section four, …”

 

Which the prosecution and defense are both arguing with the judge about:

 

“It says, for someone that’s already been sentenced.”

 

So the judge purposely held Jacob in a pre-sentence, in a post summons, but pre-sentence state, so that he couldn’t get bail.

 

And then the both the prosecution and the defense said to the judge that:

 

“It was implied in 265 and implied in section four that it’s the same thing. The pre-sentence and sentence is the same Bail Act.”

 

And then the judge says:

 

“But it doesn’t say that exactly! You don’t have the power. I have the power.”

 

That’s what the judge said.

 

And then the prosecution said something about “de novo* appeal rights”, which I don’t know what that means. I’d have to Google it.

 

[* De novo is a Latin term that means “anew,” “from the beginning,” or “afresh.” When a court hears a case “de novo,” it is deciding the issues without reference to any legal conclusion or assumption made by the previous court to hear the case.]

 

And then the judge said that:

 

“There’s a clear issue in the legislature. That the legislator needs to address the wording of section four and section 265, because the wording isn’t direct enough in its implication (that basically the Jacob can get bail), and that the wording of the law needs to be changed so that you can actually win this argument. But because the wording of the law hasn’t been changed.”

 

So the judge had, or the magistrate had, already researched this, had already found his loophole. Then he explains his loophole, and then says:

 

“Haha, you can’t get me! I got you!”

 

And then Jacobs lawyer was, …

 

Blair Cottrell: What a sadist man!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah!

 

Blair Cottrell: Like, this seems to be the most significant aspect of the whole matter that took place today.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well it took about 40 minutes.

 

Blair Cottrell: This sadistic judge. Yeah, like, sounds like it was a big argument.

 

And all of this back and forth between Jacob’s Lawyer, the prosecution, and the judge. It all seemed to be just because the judge wanted to make Jacob wait in jail to find out how long he was going to do in jail. Which is just not standard legal practice in Australia or any state in Australia. It just doesn’t happen, unless the person’s a significant risk.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, it’s absolutely unheard of for magistrate’s court. And the judge couldn’t even mention a precedent of it happening in magistrate court because it happens for serious criminals. He kept mentioning Supreme and county. And when the defense said:

 

“The Bail Act should transfer over because we plan to appeal.”

 

[47:15]

 

Blair Cottrell: One second, before you continue, before we continue, Joel, do we have a photo of this judge? What does this guy look like? Is the one kicking around somewhere.

 

Joel Davis: I know where to find one. Keep going, Tom. I got it.

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, you got it? Okay. Yeah, I was just googling it.

 

So what I wrote here in my notes is that he clearly articulates the failure of the legislature and that he even said:

 

“That it needs an amendment. It’s clearly an issue!”

 

That’s what the judge said, that the magistrate said this, he said:

 

“It needs an amendment. It’s clearly an issue.”

 

And then he uses it.

 

So Jacob’s Lawyer was smart enough. Jacob’s Lawyer then brought up common law. Now all the Boomers will love this one. Jacob’s Lawyer then brought up common law and said:

 

“But this is against common law.”

 

And the judge says:

 

“How does common law apply here? What is common law?”

 

Saying that because, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Sorry, sorry. I’m just like, can I just take a moment to appreciate the physiognomy of this particular judge? Is this him? Is this the guy? Really?

 

 

[Image: Magistrate Brett Sonnet –  Tuesday, 19 July 2022 The Andrews Labor Government has today announced the appointment of another five new magistrates.
Attorney-General Jaclyn Symes congratulated Lucia Raponi, Helen Spowart, David Langton, Brett Sonnet and Gregory Thomas on their appointments, which will assist in reducing the court backlog.

Magistrate Sonnet, a barrister, was admitted to legal practice in 1991 and worked for the Office of Public Prosecutions from 1998 to 2019, where he held a variety of roles including Associate Crown Prosecutor and Crown Prosecutor. Since 2019, Magistrate Sonnet has been at the Victorian Bar practising in criminal law. https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/more-magistrates-boost-victorias-court-system]

 

Joel Davis: Yes, that’s the guy.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Blair Cottrell: Oh, man! Okay. Yeah, we should probably take that off the screen. Good move.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. To be perfectly fair to him, he doesn’t look that bad, look as bad as that in person. I just think that’s an unflattering photo.

 

Blair Cottrell: Sounds like you were your fairer on him, that he was on you today.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, yes. But, …

 

Jacob Hersant: I am!

 

Joel Davis: This man could send Jacob to jail for a year. So maybe he’s cucking a little bit. He wants to stay on his good side. He might be watching. [chuckling]

 

Jacob Hersant: He claims that he doesn’t follow the media at all!

 

Blair Cottrell: They all say that! They all say that, but of course they do.

 

Jacob Hersant: Every magistrate I’ve been, because anytime I’m at magistrate’s court, there’s always media there. And every magistrate says that for some reason. None of them ever follow the news apparently.

 

Blair Cottrell: Because even if they did, it would indicate, if they admitted that they did, it would indicate a preconceived bias, or a possibility of a bias. And they just don’t want to even insinuate that. Right?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes. But I just think it’s dishonest. Like, I think basically every Australian elite keeps in tune with everything that’s happening in the media, at least a big stories. It doesn’t mean they’re reading every newspaper. But elites do take the news seriously. They take it more seriously than we do, as nationalists, because they see themselves as part of an Australian elite community. And that’s how kind of information diffuses through their community.

 

Blair Cottrell: Maybe that’s what this guy’s problem was like, his desire to be an elite. Because I don’t think magistrates are elites. I’d say they’re like junior elites. Kind of like try hard elites trying to get into the realms of the actual elites. That’s the media.

 

Jacob Hersant: I’d say they are elites because there’s so few of them. You’d think there’d be way more. But I think there’s less than 100 magistrates, less than 100 county court judges, probably less than 50 Supreme Court judges. There really are not a lot of magistrates and judges in the state of Victoria. And it is a prestigious position. It gets given out by senior politicians. Like, some of them are appointed by Dan Andrews.

 

So I would consider magistrates elites. They’re not the main elites of the “jewdiciary”. Like, obviously, you’ve got Supreme Court judges, you’ve got Appeals Court judges, Supreme Court of Appeals judges, you’ve got High Court judges. And then, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Jewish legislators.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. That’s a different kind of branch. And then you have high ranking, like, very high lawyers that are very, …

 

Joel Davis: Kings Council.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well, King, King’s council. There are a lot of King’s council, but there’s the very, very high King’s Council. And I think they do have another level above that, if I recall correctly. But I might be wrong on that.

 

Joel Davis: But speaking on this, you know what Tom was saying before about the, I think rightly pointed out there was a sadism. Basically the concession that ultimately satisfied the magistrate. And then he changed his tune and became nice after putting everyone through the stress of delaying the hearing until 02:00 in the afternoon. So Jacob’s Lawyer could figure out this complex, like, web of legislation and how to interpret it correctly. What he ultimately was satisfied with was the acknowledgement that he did have the power to do that to Jacob, but that it would be nevertheless a bad thing because it would kind of go against like a prevailing kind of common law sense of how things are supposed to be done.

 

So he kind of wanted to have it acknowledged that the lawyer didn’t have him in a corner. Jacob’s Lawyer didn’t have the magistrate in a corner where he had to release Jacob. You know, basically put Jacob in a situation where he could get bail. He wanted it to be like:

 

“You have to come to me and ask for my grace. And then through my grace I will release this to you.”

 

So that was quite interesting. I thought like what exactly his motivation was there. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: It was weirdly sexual. And the prosecution and the journalists were all laughing at a few of the stages where Jacob’s Lawyer said more along the lines of:

 

“I don’t want you to pin me there, like where this is going. You’re trying to pin me there.”

 

And then the judge said:

 

“Yeah, I am trying to pin you there.”

 

And then they all laughed. And I think all the Nazis in the room were like:

 

“What the fuck is funny? That’s a weird thing to say!”

 

Everyone was laughing and, …

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, that is weird!

 

[53:31]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: It was a strange, it was very, very, I’m telling you, it was like, I’ve been in a magistrate’s court a lot. And that was the strangest magistrate’s court experience I’ve had. It’s getting more and more like some Freemasonry initiation ritual. It’s getting strange. It’s getting kind of [word unclear] and weird! As Joel articulated very well, we argued for like 3 hours or something in total over this issue. And then, plus all the time where we’re away, and then by the end of it he just says the magic code and then the judge just kind of huffs and puffs and is like:

 

“Oh, well, you got me. All right. Well I just wanted to make sure you knew. Yeah, I’m not going to jail Jacob today. Yeah, he gets, bail. He’s not going to get remanded.”

 

And just completely changed tune. Just like just Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde. Just straight up projection.

 

Blair Cottrell: Yeah, maybe that’s a projection.

 

Joel Davis: [words unclear] basically for like a month. And so it’s not even bail, it just hasn’t been set.

 

Thomas Sewell: The last sound bites I’ve got here in the quotes is he says, and he said it in the strangest way. He said:

 

“I’m confident I can remand Hersant without bail. You can challenge me on that in Supreme if you want.”

 

And then did this kind of like, not an Indian head bob. Kind of like a sassy black woman head bob. [side to side head sway] Like, you can challenge me at supreme if you want.

 

And then the defense said:

 

“This deprives a person of the right to appeal.”

 

And he goes:

 

“How does it? How does it deprive his right to appeal?”

 

And then the lawyer says:

 

“Well, if he’s already done the jail time, how can we appeal custody? Not appeal the conviction, but appeal the sentence.”

 

You can’t appeal a sentence. If you’ve done the sentence. You can’t appeal custody. Once you’ve already done the custody, it’s too late to appeal the concept of being a custodian of the Queen’s expense or the King’s expense.

 

But, yeah, then it was weird! The last couple lines were quite odd. The defense just said:

 

“It’s a strange practice to delay the sentencing. Why not sentence them today or just adjourn until you’ve made up your mind?”

 

And then he said:

 

“Oh, the second argument I have is, …”

 

The prosecution’s name was Zurgik or something. Can you pronounce it Jacob? What was the prosecutor’s name?

 

Jacob Hersant: I can’t. Yeah, it started with a Z. [ZOG!]

 

Thomas Sewell: Gurevich.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: So, Gurevich, the prosecutor said that the judge was obliged.

 

And then he also said he couldn’t come back at 02:00. And I was looking at the body language between the assistant to the prosecutor and the prosecutor. The assistant was like this kind of chubby brown woman. And the whole time she was disagreeing with her boss. The whole time she was like:

 

“No, no, the judge can do this. No, no, judge. The judge should be doing this.”

 

Basically trying to get the prosecutor to not side with the defense. And the prosecutor was getting up and was a bit like there was tension, and he was like:

 

“No, actually, you’re obliged to give him bail.”

 

And then when he didn’t come back at two, and the brown woman instead was the prosecutor, she just immediately sided. She was young as well, and I think that’s more likely to side with the system because they’re looking for promotions. But she came up and she said that:

 

“Bail doesn’t apply in this circumstance, and that Gurevich didn’t say that you couldn’t do bail, he just raised concerns.”

 

And the second argument didn’t even make sense. He just said that:

 

“There’s no reason to it now instead of in two weeks.”

 

And then the judge basically just gave up. It was a very strange ending.

 

And when Mr Smart, Tim Smart came out, the lawyer, he said he talked about the argument, he talked about what happened. And I mentioned to Tim Smart that it seemed like the judge was actually quite anxious of this being challenged at Supreme Court. So he wanted to like, kind of play with the cat, you know. Sorry, how a cat kind of plays with a mouse. You kind of want to tease it as much as possible without actually having to go through with the kill. Because I think he was actually quite anxious that this would look really bad on his report card, however it looks for judges.

 

Blair Cottrell: You know, he was like a snake coiling around Jacob, but he never actually struck! I’ve always wished, you mentioned Freemasonry, and I’ve always wished I knew an up to date Freemason sign. You know, how they have like the hidden hand or the single eye.

 

So when I was in court, I could do that symbol and make sure the judge saw and maybe I’d get off.

 

But then later he’d find out I’m not a member and like:

 

“Ah, shit! I let him off for no reason!”

 

I always wished I could try something like that. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, I only knew anything because of those expose videos. That guy on Twitter that went into the meetings and I watched those videos.

 

Blair Cottrell: He was one of those talent shows or something? Wasn’t he?

 

[58:27]

 

Thomas Sewell: I can’t remember. But he has a big Twitter account. Maybe Joel knows.

 

Blair Cottrell: I don’t know, but I was thinking of journalists, Jacob. There was a bit of media there.

 

Now, did a single journalist show you any sort of sympathy? A little guy up against this big monster system, or were they just all on the side of the system? What were the journalists like?

 

Jacob Hersant: All of them were hostile. I would say there was one woman who was asking questions in a more. I don’t think she particularly liked me, but she was asking questions in a more objective way. And that was when I was by myself out the front, after the judgement had been given out. So I’ve been convicted, but not today, during the indication of the sentence. So, yeah, she asked questions that were kind of objective and just let me answer.

 

But the Channel Nine and the Channel Seven, they were very agitated and very vicious with their questioning, which in my opinion, only made me look good. Because most people would assume that journalists would try to be somewhat, at least objective with this because I’d have an interest in having freedom of expression, because their whole profession allegedly is built on expression. And kind of like giving voice to exposing the truth and all these kind of things is part of the mythology of the press, right? But we know that modern journalists are mostly just interested in cash and luxury, and they will say anything to get that luxury!

 

And right now, the most lucrative thing you can do is serve a jew! Because the jews are in control of our society. They’re in control of finance. And they finance these journalists to lie on their behalf and to insult on their behalf!

 

So that’s what we saw when I was just out there by myself in front of all these journalists. They’re asking me whether or not it was a blow to my ego, this sentence, not sentence, but this judgement, whether it was a blow to my ego. And I’m just confused. I’m like:

 

“Why would it be a blow to my ego?”

 

That’s what I responded.

 

And then they were just going on, like, they were really going on about how I should be embarrassed, I should be in shamed. And I just gave simple answers:

 

“I’m not ashamed. I have no regrets. The salute that the gesture I gave resembled is an honourable salute. And I am a Nazi. I do give Nazi salutes. I’ll continue giving Nazi salutes!”

 

And just don’t prosecute me anymore! [chuckling]

 

Blair Cottrell: Because, look, the comments were great! You’re honest, steadfasts, and you’re not backing down! And that’s admirable. I mean, love this guy or hate him! He’s a character, and he believes in what he believes in. He’s ready to go to jail for it. There’s something admirable in that.

 

Joel Davis: We were walking into the courthouse for what was the conclusion in the afternoon. And the media scrum, as we were walking in, they said:

 

“Oh, Jacob, you’re about to go to prison. Do you regret it?”

 

And he’s like:

 

“I don’t regret it, but the jews will regret turning me into a free speech martyr!”

 

And that was a brilliant line! They didn’t put that on the television.

 

Blair Cottrell: You know why those journalists, you know why those journalists are so frustrated with Jacob? It’s because if they were in Jacob’s position, they would grovel! And because he’s not groveling, it frustrates them! It irritates them! It shines a light on their own weakness of character. They would not have the strength to stand up for what they believe in to the degree that Jacob has.

 

But look, I’ve got to drop off. I’ve got a lot happening at home tonight. I just wanted to pop in and sort of get this conversation rolling. I’ll leave it with you guys and you can continue if you want. It’s been a big day for you all, though, like, so I could imagine that you’re not going to spend too much time. But, yeah, thanks very much for including me, guys, and good job. Tom and Joel, specifically, well done for standing with Jacob today. That’s fucking, that’s great stuff! It’s always good to show solidarity. Take care, lads. See you soon.

 

Thomas Sewell: Thank you.

 

Joel Davis: But, yeah, Jacob likes, likes being an individual. So yesterday he just said:

 

“No one come down and I’ll deal with it myself.”

 

And the media were taunting him, saying:

 

“Where’s all your friends? Your friends don’t support you!”

 

So last night at training Tom was like:

 

“We should go down there tomorrow so that we create the impression that he does have support.”

 

Thomas Sewell: Jacob does have our support.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly, exactly. [chuckling] Obviously!

 

Thomas Sewell: And they’re like professional gossipers. It’s like very school-esque that there’s no consistency to their attack on Jacob. The only thing that’s consistent is that they’re attacking him.

 

So when he was by himself, they’re like:

 

“So you don’t have any friends! So no one likes you? You’re a loser!”

 

But then when he’s with all the boys, when we’re all there to support him, they were saying to me, like:

 

“Did you put him up to this?”

 

And it’s well, hang on. Yesterday I said:

 

“No, he’s a free agent. Like, Jacob’s a free person. He can do what he wants.”

 

But I thought it was funny that they’re attacking Jacob as, like, he’s got no friends. But then when his friends are there, they’re like:

 

“Oh, so your friends put you up to it?”

 

There’s just no consistency.

 

[1:04:00]

 

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but I thought it was good that we came today because I think Jacob made a big splash yesterday, and then today he was able to be more stoic and even when we left Jacob’s advice was kind of like save, like, don’t blow your load out here while we’re in the middle of the proceeding. You know, save some juice for after the sentence, like, until we appeal. But the media we’re harassing him.

 

And so I just took them up in argument. You and I, Tom, ended up having like a pretty. I thought it was actually. I wish someone recorded the whole thing. If anyone can find that, like, if it’s posted out there somewhere, like Associated Press has it or something, send it to me. Because we got into this extended, like, debate with the media because what they were basically saying was:

 

“How come you don’t have any respect for the law?”

 

Because obviously Jacob, what Channel Nine ran with last night was “no shame!” You know:

 

“Jacob Hersant, he’s got no shame for what he has done! And he’s like he’s basically got no remorse. And how horrible is that?”

 

Actually not horrible. It’s based! He’s holding frame and demonstrating that he has a consistent moral worldview. And that was what was so important to project that kind of like, that energy that:

 

“No, you guys are the ones that are morally wrong here, not us!”

 

And so we engaged an argument and he was saying:

 

“You don’t have any respect for the law!”

 

The journalist, the Channel Nine journalist. And I said:

 

“The Victorian legislature doesn’t have any respect for the law because if they had respect for that, they would have respect for the Constitution, and the High Court decision, that’s multiple decisions that say that we have an implied right to political communication in this country. And also our ancient rights as Anglo Saxons for centuries, for millennia, to have freedoms, exercise freedoms, free Anglo Saxon men!”

 

And he then said:

 

“Well, if you don’t like the laws, why don’t you leave?”

 

Basically:

 

“If you don’t like the laws of this country, why don’t you get out?”

 

And then Tom clapped back with:

 

“Hey, wait a second. The jews had these laws changed last year. If they didn’t like the laws of our country, why don’t they go back to fucking Israel?”

 

Which I thought was a brilliant line. They had nothing to say to that.

 

Thomas Sewell: I hit him with the sound bite. Hold on, I’m muted now. I hit him with my favourite sound bite:

 

“I’m an Anglo Saxon!”

 

And I hit him with that. And then I said:

 

“We’re speaking English. We’re not speaking Yiddish. You know, they can go back to Israel!”

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. No, but it was brilliant!

 

Thomas Sewell: He just called me an attention seeker, which is that whenever they don’t have, when the media doesn’t have anything to say and you stand up for yourself and you fight back in the arena, they always say:

 

“You’re an attention seeker!”

 

And he asked repeatedly:

 

“So you’re just doing this for attention. You’re just doing this for the publicity.”

 

And I said:

 

“You’re doing this for the publicity! You’re the media!”

 

[chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we were, like, walking down the street, and then you’re all shoving microphones in our face, asking us questions and cameras, and you’re saying:

 

“Why are you an attention seeker! Why are you an attention seeker!”

 

And it’s well:

 

“Why are you here? [chuckling] Why are you shoving microphones and cameras in my face and asking me questions?”

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I was a big scrum, and they were more aggressive than usual. Usually they crowd around you in a circle, but this time they kind of tried to get in between us, and they were, like, walking into us and stuff. It was a bit more intense.

 

But I think their goal was to try to get a kind of something on the news of that. But I didn’t see anything on the news showing the kind of aggression that they displayed. Because they do the aggression to look for retaliation. But I didn’t carry on too much. I just pushed one of them out of the way. And he was like:

 

“You dick!”

 

I was like:

 

“You’re a dick! You walked into me!”

 

It was pretty funny. [chuckling]

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, that’s probably where they got the photos of me smiling, because when I saw that, [chuckling] I was laughing! And I was like:

 

“You, dick!”

 

[chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: He walked backwards straight into me, and I turned around and just moved him out of the way.

 

Joel Davis: You posted this, but there was pictures of you guys the two of you walking up to the court this morning. I wasn’t with you yet. I arrived just after, and the two of you were walking up to the court. And Tom, like, tonight, we had to cancel our reading group tonight. We have been reading Nietzsche’s Genealogy of Morals. We do a weekly reading group in the club, and that’s the book that we’re on at the moment. And the reading group was tonight, and obviously, you brought it with you because you were intending on finishing up the reading for this week before, and we had to cancel it. So sorry to the boys. We had to cancel it. We had to do the show. But in multiple media articles, they’re like:

 

“And Thomas Sewell was pictured with Friedrich Nietzsche’s Genealogy of Morals!”

 

And it’s like, that’s news? Like, what book was in your hand? And they’re saying that we’re attention seekers.

 

So it was quite humourous.

 

Thomas Sewell: Please tell the public what books to read, to be as cool as us.

 

[1:08:58]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but it made world news. We made Israeli news, we made American news, we made British news. As well as so many different Australian news sites. So it was a world news story two days in a row. And yesterday, looking at some the Google statistics, Jacob Hersant was running hotter on the Google algorithm than Anthony Albanese, the prime minister. And he’s, like, suffering from a scandal right now, apparently.

 

Thomas Sewell: And yesterday, Jacob was doing better than Albanese, but then today, Albanese got back on top on the search bar because he asked if someone had Tourette’s because they kept them interrupting him.

 

And then that’s a giant scandal because that’s against the principal “Diversity, Equity and Inclusion”.

 

The Greens wheeled out their disability MP. Literally wheeled him out. [chuckling]

 

Jacob Hersant: I wasn’t sure if it was the wheelchair that was a disability, or his mixed race status! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. [chuckling] It just shows how trivial the conventional political circus in Canberra and the Canberra Parliament is in comparison. Like, we’re doing real politics. Like we’re fighting for Australians, like the Constitutional right of Australians to have free political communication. And these clowns in Canberra are arguing over the most trivial nonsense!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: So who’s the real serious political actor, you know, us or them? It shouldn’t really be us, but somehow it isn’t. It’s a running theme. We seem to be the ones highlighting all the actual serious issues in the country.

 

Another issue that we highlighted, I wanted to play this clip for you guys. You know, we give Victoria police a lot of criticism, but there was an exceptionally rare Vic-Pol W [win by Victoria Police] today. I want to play you guys this clip. So that refugee encampment, they got shut the fuck down! These jeets [Indians] have [chuckling] managed to piss off the system so much, they’ve overstayed their welcome. And here’s images today where the infamous Fuck Off! We’re Full! Counter-protest against these, quote, unquote “refugees”. It’s not an active war zone in India or Sri Lanka or Pakistan, as far as I’m aware, but somehow there’s all these refugees from all of these countries. So I don’t know how that works.

 

But anyway.

 

[Video of police and council workers removing all the protestors items.]

 

Protestor (with thick Indian accent): Hello, guys. Today, police and the council people are coming. Remove all the stuff. They taking everything.

 

Joel Davis: Anyway. We don’t need to watch the whole thing. But I found that humourous. It was another victory for the NSN [National Socialist Network]. [chuckling] We went down there, we told them, fuck off, that we’re full. And the police were they were worried that we were going to clear them out, but they, the police went for a wait out strategy. They said:

 

“Boys, you’re here too soon. You know, we’ll wait them out. We’ll give it a few weeks and then we’ll clear them out. We made a deal with them on the day.”

 

Yeah, that’s probably better optics. And our friends in Vic-Pol, I just want to say:

 

“Great job, boys! You know, clearing the streets of these stinky jeets!”

 

Thomas Sewell: I [word unclear] Vic-Pol as much as I hate jeets.

 

Jacob Hersant: You got to wait for the Internet schizophrenics to take those comments literally. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Just wait for it. Like, as soon as you finish that sentence, cut!

 

Jacob Hersant: Proof of police collaboration!

 

Joel Davis: No, no.

 

Thomas Sewell: Nathan Bull’s dad was the director of getting the jeets out. Cugk

 

Joel Davis: We’re everywhere. You think that we’re not inside the police? You think we’re not inside the Liberal Party? You think we’re not inside Sky News? We are everywhere!

 

Jacob Hersant: [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: I’ll be honest. I was the judge today.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: I was both Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde today.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, yeah.

 

Joel Davis: We’re pulling the strings.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s a hologram.

 

Joel Davis: Why do you think the Dvir* sucks so much? You think that the jews actually hire that retard to represent them? You think the jews are that dumb? You know, think about it.

 

 

[* Dvir Abramovich (born 1971) is an Israeli-Australian Jewish studies academic, columnist, and editor. Abramovich is the chairman of the Anti-Defamation Commission (ADC), a former division of B’nai B’rith in Melbourne, and director of the Program for Jewish Culture and Society at The University of Melbourne. Abramovich’s areas of study are the Hebrew language, Israel and Holocaust studies.]

 

Jacob Hersant: We’re playing all sides.

 

Joel Davis: We’re playing 5D chess over here.

 

Thomas Sewell: Dvir is actually our guy. He’s making jews look bad on purpose.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, there is infighting in the jewish family regarding Dvir Abramovich. A bunch of jews think that he’s embarrassing and that he’s really bad optics for jews because he looks like a Romanian vampire! He’s not actually a Romanian, but a jewish vampire in Romania that preys upon children. He speaks like one. And he is just so hyperbolic with every single statement where, … I think when the Nazi gesture that I gave or the gesture resembling the Nazi salute that I gave, I think he was giving news reports saying that:

 

“It was a stab in the heart for every jew!”

 

And I think he was just talking about wooden stakes. He was thinking about wooden stakes being driven into his heart, considering he’s a vampire.

 

And then he just went with it. But I personally love Dvir Abramovich. I love a lot of our detractors. I love Kaz Ross* as well. She is just excellent propaganda.

 

 

[Image: Tasmanian College of the Arts director John Vella with Asian Studies lecturer Dr Kaz Ross (2015) are working on the ogoh-ogoh project together, with Barong Bangkal, King of the Boars, in the background. (936 ABC Hobart: Damien Peck) ]

 

[* Dr Kaz Ross, lecturer in Asian Studies at the University of Tasmania (2004 –). Asian Studies expert, varied research interests: China and Australia relations; historical connections between Australia and Asia; hate speech; and censorship, governance, and changing culture, conspiracies, far-Right extremism. Education: 2010 University of Melbourne, PhD]

 

Thomas Sewell: She loves Joel, so, …

 

Jacob Hersant: She loves Joel. Like, as Drew Pavlou astutely pointed out, Doctor Kaz is in love with Joel Davis.

 

Joel Davis: Very chaste with the wrong guy. I mean, you’re more of a chubby chaser than me.

 

Jacob Hersant: [chuckling] Yeah, well, you know, she is a fat pig. Let’s just be honest. She’s a fat fucking pig, Kaz Ross! And we know she’s watching. She watches every stream.

 

Joel Davis: Listen, Kaz, get on the weight watchers, …

 

Thomas Sewell: She defended us and attacked Drew today.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, get on the treadmill, and maybe you hit me up!

 

Jacob Hersant: [laughing loudly]

 

[1:15:26]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: I said this a couple streams ago. If she wasn’t fat, she would be allowed in the ethno-state. And therefore, she doesn’t need to be an anti-fan. She can just be a regular fan.

 

Joel Davis: Maybe she’s been dieting and that’s why she’s just coming around.

 

Jacob Hersant: Have we asked the NSN intelligence officer if Kaz Ross is one of us? I’m not sure who she’s serving.

 

Joel Davis: But also, like, it was all just as they call it in the biz, in WWE. It was all, what’s the word I’m looking for?

 

Thomas Sewell: I don’t watch WWE.

 

Joel Davis: No, there’s a word for when they pretend to have an argument, where they pretend to have a fight. Kayfabe! It’s all kayfabe. Drew Pavlou, he’s our guy. Like, we just pretend it’s like, who’s promoted me more than Drew Pavlou in 2024? Nobody! Nobody. Nobody tweets about Joel Davis more than Drew Pavlou.

 

And that’s the thing. The genius of our subversion is that it seems like it’s a joke! We can just literally lay out all the chess pieces for you on The Joel and Blair Show. Of all the aspects of Australian politics, the tentacles, the Anglo Saxon tentacles controlling everything behind the scenes. It’s not ZOG, it’s ASOG! Anglo Saxon Occupied Government. We’re everywhere. Left, or Right. This is a Nazi country! And we call everything.

 

Jacob Hersant: We cannot forget Moira Deeming*, who is one of our best agents for the destruction of the Liberal Party. [chuckling] At least the aspects of the Liberal Party that aren’t controlled by our conspiracy yet.

 

 

https://www.noticer.news/thomas-sewell-moira-deeming-defamation-trial/

 

[* Moira Deeming is an Australian politician. She is a former member of the Parliamentary Liberal Party and is currently an Independent Liberal member of the Victorian Legislative Council, representing the Western Metropolitan Region since November 2022. She was previously a councillor for the Melton City Council representing the Watts Ward. Wikipedia]

 

Thomas Sewell: Hail Moira Deeming! [chuckling]

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Soldier of the White race.

 

Jacob Hersant: We will forgive her for a mixed race status, because she has served the White race admirably.

 

Thomas Sewell: That was her penance. We said to her:

 

“We’ll let you in the ethno-state, but first you have to destroy the Liberal Party.”

 

And she has done this successfully. Even Jeff Kennett wrote an article today about how she is the Trojan Horse. But amongst the elite circles of anti-Anglo Saxons, like Jeff Kennett, they have to be very careful to not address us because it’s esoteric knowledge, you see, and they need to be very subtle and careful to not directly address us. That’s why they’re so, you know, shape shifty.

 

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: I opened Twitter the other day and there was just a random fucking post. And it was from, like, three weeks ago. I don’t know why. I was in my timeline. And it was just Drew Pavlou putting up a picture of an Asian baby crying. And then it was like, NSN screaming:

 

“Hail victory! Asian baby crying. Goo goo, gaga, NSN screaming, Australia for the Whiteman!”

 

And there was like, Asian baby goo. And I just was like, what! Like, everyone, like, dive back into it? Yeah. It’s like the man is obsessed. He just randomly tweets shit like that!

 

Joel Davis: He uploaded a picture of him at Auschwitz the other day and, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, can we put it up?

 

Joel Davis: The problem with, … I would love to put it up, but the problem is if I go and search for it, Drew Pavlou tweets 845 times every three minutes.

 

So the amount of vertical scroll to get to three days ago, I don’t have the time for that.

 

Thomas Sewell: That someone sent us a link and we’ll put it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, someone DM me the picture of Drew Pavlou at Auschwitz, and I’ll chuck it up if you can DM it to me in a prompt and efficient manner. I’ll check my DM’s. You got five to ten minutes. I’ll check my DM’s. If it’s there, we’ll show you. It almost is like, you don’t really need a caption. Like, it’s just hilarious because he’s trying to put on this serious:

 

“I’m so moved. I’m so depressed. Like, this is such a horrible thing that has happened here!”

 

This kind of faux, like, yeah, somber, like vibe.

 

Anyway, what a wanker.

 

Jacob Hersant: He’s just in a goofy T-shirt, nipples protruding. Very disrespectful! [chuckling] Someone needs to get that photo up because when I saw it, I was amazed. I was amazed! It was beautiful!

 

Joel Davis: Drew Pavlou managed to get a shirtless photo of me leaked. He got his grubby little hands on one of those. But he obviously was so mogged by my physique that he, like, cropped my abs out, so, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, and shoulders as well, like, yeah, just zoom in on what he wanted.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Anyway, he’s probably watching now. Hey, Drew, you little faggot.

 

But anyway, I think we should talk, though, about the, I talked about it a bit at the beginning, but I think you guys should weigh in on this. The necessity to build the libertarian nationalist kind of populist alliance, like the big Right-wing tent that includes us. Like, they need to realise, and I think a lot of people are starting to realise a lot of the not necessarily the leaders, but a lot of the lower ranking members or kind of the base, the libertarian base, the populist freedom movement base. You know, 18 months ago, there was almost like, universal condemnation:

 

“Are these guys Feds? Are these guys Antifa?”

 

Or if they didn’t think that it was some kind of op, they were saying:

 

“Oh, what’s with the Hitler stuff? That’s so extreme that’s going to alienate people! What are you guys doing?”

 

There wasn’t a lot of love. Fast forward 18 months. It seems like there’s an increasing acceptance of us as part of Australian politics now. People are desensitized. They don’t seem to be offended. They’re so used to us. We’ve made so many news headlines and done so many stunts and activistic activities that we’re just part of the furniture now of Australian politics. And the attitudes seem to be softening. I think we’ve been very effective. I was speaking with Tom today about what makes activism effective.

 

[1:21:11]

 

And I think one of the key things that makes radical vanguard activism effective is when you kind of look at the structure of politics, the structure of discourse, and you do something that kind of throws a wrench in the acceptable kind of paradigm of discourse.

 

So on the refugee encampment thing, no one was really talking about it. There was a couple guys talking about it. We show up, we shine the light upon it, and it’s an indefensible. We force the enemy to defend an indefensible position almost nobody agrees with just give infinite permanent visas to the random brown people that are obnoxiously demanding it being organised by insane communists. That is not a majority position.

 

This is also not a majority position. The idea that you should send someone to jail for throwing a Roman salute is not a majority position. The average Australian says:

 

“That’s just ridiculous!”

 

You know, as I pointed out on Twitter today there’s been cases of literal child rapists that have walked away with suspended jail sentences. In other words, not serving any time after being convicted of sex with minors.

 

Jacob put his arm in the air, and they want to put him in jail. I mean, that’s the state of justice in this country. The average person finds that ridiculous! When the Destroy Pedo Freaks rally again, it was like forcing the enemy to defend the indefensible. Like, transgenderism is not popular. It’s just not popular. Particularly the imposition of it on children.

 

So, it’s like, okay, yeah, we’re Nazis. Apparently, being a Nazi is this nuclear identity to take up because it’s the most controversial thing that you can be. But the Nazis keep attacking on behalf of the majority of Australians on the issues that everyone else isn’t touching because they don’t have the balls to touch them, but they would actually have the support of the people behind them if they did.

 

And so what we’re doing is we’re kind of restructuring the overall kind of paradigm of a political discourse and saying:

 

“Wait a second. These are the real enemies. These are the real problems that need to be dealt with.”

 

And putting the light and the focus upon those specific problems.

 

Obviously, in general, we try to put the focus on the problem of race at large. And not just mass immigration, but the lack of White dignity, the lack of White assertiveness in general. Like, we’re claiming in a very direct way:

 

“No this is our fucking country!”

 

No one else really does that. And we seem to be winning over a larger and larger sympathetic coalition. Not doctrinaire National Socialists, but people who don’t look at us as the enemy, who look at us as maybe a little bit extreme:

 

“Taking it a little bit too far, guys!”

 

But they’ll agree with us on a lot of the things that we’re upset about. We’re just taking it a bit too far. And they’re realizing that their enemies are the people that we’re against, and they’re becoming a lot more sympathetic towards our plight and finding ways to kind of support the momentum that we are generating in a kind of softer language. And that’s the point of being a vanguard! That’s the whole point of being a vanguard! Is you go and confront the enemy directly. You smash into the enemy line, and then everyone else kind of fills in behind you.

 

And I feel like we’ve been pretty effective at that in our activism, and that really is the model for going forward. And the rest of the Right needs to realise that you might think we’re a little bit too extreme, you might think we laid on a little bit too thick, but you need people like us! I mean, our enemies are scum!

 

Like, I know this is not in Australia, but it’s the same problem. These grooming gangs in Britain. Everyone knows about the fact that all these Pakistani immigrants kidnapping ten year old girls, forcibly injecting them with heroin, getting them addicted to heroin, and turning them into prostitutes, age ten, 11, 12 years old, and just completely ruining their lives permanently. And the state essentially covering it up.

 

Now, some tranny communist went in and changed the Wikipedia article, and they control Wikipedia to this extent to say, change the Wikipedia article from grooming gangs or Pakistani grooming gangs to the “moral panic” about Pakistani grooming gangs. Like, this idea that:

 

“Actually it wasn’t that big of a problem, it was just overhyped by racists to push some kind of anti-immigration agenda.”

 

No, like, there’s some towns in England where, like, half of the girls between ages 10 and 15 were raped by Pakistanis, or something. Like, this is not a moral panic! This is the most egregious crime that’s perhaps ever been carried out on English soil.

 

And these are the kinds of enemies that we have on the Left, where they hate you and your family and your country and your people so much that they will literally engage in gaslighting and try and change the official public record and obfuscate the official public record in order to obfuscate the genocide of your people and the institutional support and cover up and complicity in the genocide of your people.

 

We’re not playing with these aren’t people with different opinions. These are people that want you dead and your family dead, and they want your country destroyed. They don’t give a single fuck about you!

 

[1:26:43]

 

Meanwhile, we’re here. Yeah, we’re a little bit too rough around the edges. We’re a little too extreme for your taste, perhaps, but we’re fighting for you! We’re fighting for your family. We’re fighting for your country. We’re fighting all of your enemies.

 

So it’s about time you start realizing that we aren’t your enemy, and warming up to us. And all the people are warming up to us, and it’s time for them to realise that we’re performing a very important function. You need radicals! You need quote, unquote, “extremists” in your corner. The Left has so many extremists in their corner that push their agenda.

 

The Left’s agenda is wildly unpopular. The transgender stuff, flooding the country with infinity immigrants, the excessive wokeness. Like, this stuff isn’t actually popular. Most people are sick of it! Most people see it as a decay and destruction of our society. But they get away with it because their radicals on the Left don’t get cancelled. They don’t view it as nuclear to identify as a communist:

 

“Oh, that’s freaky! I would never want to be associated with you because you’re a communist!”

 

No. The Left goes and gives them jobs to run the education system, puts them inside the union movement, puts them in politics, puts them in media, and let’s them carry out their agenda and then covers up.

 

So the Right needs to start looking at us like that if you want to beat that’s the enemy. You want to beat that, you need to start empowering your radicals, empowering your extremists, backing your radicals. You might not want to back us too explicitly, but you’re going to have to start backing us, because whether you like it or not, we’re on the same fucking team!

 

Jacob Hersant: Should get the photo of Drew Pavlou, as well, that’s up there.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I’ll pull it up now. But anyway, I went on a bit of a rant there now.

 

Jacob Hersant: It was good. It was a good rant. But we do need to see Drew Pavlou.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I’ll put him out. What are your thoughts on that, Tom? While I pull up this.

 

Thomas Sewell: We’ve got more support than ever because the broader spectrum of politics that’s affiliated with the Right-wing or with White identitarianism, like the adjacent politics. So when we’re fighting for the right to freely express our political views for the purpose of White nationalism or National Socialism, there are people like libertarians, as you mentioned, and just everyday Australians that are concerned about the Misinformation Bill, just the growing cronyism and the growing Police State that’s just continuing to encroach and infringe on what they might consider just Australians. But obviously, it’s very specifically targeted towards White Australians.

 

I think they’re starting to finally support us and not be as hostile and antagonistic to us, because, one, it’s so obvious what the system is doing now, and it’s so obvious that we are the archetype of the enemy of the system. And two, that they’ve worked out that we’re actually fighters and that they’re not gonna win this without fighters.

 

So, I believe immensely in Hitler’s principles and the strongman is strongest alone. But I do also acknowledge that, yeah, while we’re small and while we’re weak, we do have to work alongside other people in order to just defend our basic political existence in this country. Otherwise, we have to be a bit pragmatic in order to not get stomped. Like, what happened to National Action. There’s kind of two case studies that I always bring up, and that’s National Action and Golden Dawn. And we just have to look at., … That’s two completely opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of political development.

 

But we have to just be very careful. We’re on the right path. We’re doing well. We’re kicking goals. And the bigger we get, the harder it is for the system to just do to us what they’ve done to National Action. We just have to avoid the other half of the pitfalls.

 

But, yeah, let’s put Drew on the screen.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I’ll put it up. Now.

 

Thomas Sewell: I hadn’t seen it, but someone told me it was black and white. Now it’s not black and white. Or did someone just meme edit it to make it all, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, it was like Schindler’s List or something.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Great movie, by the way. Schindler’s List is probably my favourite comedy of all time. I’m kidding! I’ve never actually seen it. As if I’d watch that crap!

 

But yeah, this is, … Look at his head! [chuckling]

 

 

Jacob Hersant: I just love T-shirt, though. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: And I’m just like, is that a, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Is that a balaclava, like, black block?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Just looking out, you know, among the, … Ruins.

 

 

Jacob Hersant: The shirt is just so goofy.

 

 

Joel Davis: It’s looking a little bit jihadist. I don’t know what’s going on there. A little mixed messaging. But, yeah, he says, here, I can read it out. Talking about his visit to Auschwitz.

 

“Drew Pavlou: At Auschwitz, I made a vow to myself, never again! This is precisely why I stand with the jewish people today, on October 7. For the few hours that Hamas had the power of life and death over jewish Israeli citizens, on October 7, they slaughtered and raped innocents en masse.”

 

Wait a second. Wait a second, Drew. You know, I’m not exactly like the world’s biggest defender of the Palestinians, but “slaughtering innocents”? I mean, hasn’t that basically been like, what the jews have been doing to the Palestinians in Gaza for the last whole fucking year? How many videos of babies with their heads blown off do I have to see on the timeline, because of these nutcase jews, and what they do? I mean, are you fucking kidding me? Talk about raping. They had protests in Israel a few months ago because the IDF were raping the Hamas fighters that they had captured. They were raping them! And then a certain element of the IDF found out and said:

 

“No, you can’t be raping the prisoners. That violates international law!”

 

And then there were protests in Israel in favour of the rape, saying:

 

“No, it is our right under the Talmud, to rape our political enemies!”

 

This is the jews, right. This is the jews! Never again!

 

“Drew Pavlou: While walking the grounds of Auschwitz, I vowed to myself that I would never stand idly by in the face of genocide.”

 

No, you just support it, when it’s against the brown people! Like, you know. [chuckling] Yeah, particularly brown people. When jews are doing the genocide, it’s okay!

 

“Drew Pavlou: And this is why I stand with the Israeli people as they fight for their existence against Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Iranian regime. Genocidal enemies intent on waging endless race war against them.”

 

I [chuckling] mean, the irony is just rich!

 

“Drew Pavlou: If you hate genocide and you hate racism, you simply must stand with the jewish people today as Israel fights for its existence against enemies committed to mass rape and slaughter.”

 

Yeah. Like, Israel is the most racist country on earth! I mean, I’m jealous. I’m jealous! But unfortunately, they’re taking the fucking crown at the moment. We need to catch up.

 

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Jacob Hersant: Not as viciously.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t want to be doing the rape. I don’t want to be doing the rape and the blowing babies heads off! Like, I’m a moderate. You know, that’s how hardcore these jews are. Anyway.

 

Jacob Hersant: There’s something uncanny about Drew’s face in that photo, where it’s just like he’s feigning being sad. He’s like:

 

“Take the photo for the attention. But please just tell me, is the face looking sufficiently sad?”

 

You can just tell that it’s fake.

 

If you want to pretend to be sad for a photo or something, you have to do something to elicit that response for it to be genuine. Like, if you want to smile for a photo, for example, you got to think of something funny. Laugh, and then you’ll get that genuine smile.

 

If you just put it on, it looks fake and uncanny, and that’s what it looks like in that photo. He’s just there, and really, he’s not there to be sad. The reason he’s getting a photo at Auschwitz is because he wants praise from his masters, the jews!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean Drew Pavlou, he’s been making borderline White nationalist statements. All of a sudden he’s a mass deportationist. Drew wants to kill literally millions of people on behalf of the state of Israel!

 

Jacob Hersant: According to his logic that he was using in that debate against you. He said that mass deportations equals mass slaughter, essentially. But he’s in favour of mass deporting these Palestinian and Arab nationalists and Islamists and things like that, which, using his own logic, equates to wanting to slaughter them based on their religion and their nationalities.

 

So, yeah, Drew Pavlou is a genocidal maniac! And I can’t believe he’s allowed on X to make money. Elon Musk is allowing a genocidal maniac to make money on that platform. Insane!

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, I mean, and we’ve seen there’s been many cases of liberal, democratic terrorists lately. You know, we saw the Liberal Party aficionado in Newcastle, where he went to go and behead some Labor Party MP a few months ago. We had the Trump assassination, second attempted Trump assassination by some libtard with the same foreign policy beliefs as Drew Pavlou. Although to be fair, he was pro-Palestine instead of pro-Israel.

 

Because that’s actually ideologically consistent. Like, the thing is that when Leftists are pro-Palestine, it is ideologically consistent with their overall worldview, whereas Drew Pavlou, it doesn’t make any sense that he’s pro-Israel and also, at the same time, all the other views that he espouses, which just demonstrates that he’s a, just a shill! He’s just kind of sucking up to where the money is coming from. And obviously some kike is paying him. So.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, one might even say he’s a Stochastic terrorist* or whatever. I can’t even bring myself to say that because that theory of just Stochastic terrorism is just embarrassing.

 

But, you know, according to that logic, if you subscribe to that, Drew Pavlou would himself be a Stochastic terrorist. Basically, anybody with a platform that demonises anyone is a Stochastic terrorist, apparently. It’s pretty embarrassing. But, yeah, that’s just Leftist for you and their fucking mumbo jumbo.

 

[* Stochastic terrorism is a form of political violence instigated by hostile public rhetoric directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished with indirect, vague or coded language, which grants the instigator plausible deniability for any associated violence. Wikipedia]

 

Joel Davis: Well, I think he’s actually, I would say Drew Pavlou has now become. I told him he should join the One Nation Party. Maybe he could succeed. So I’ve heard on the grapevine that Pauline Hanson, this is going to be her last term, that she’s going to retire at the end. It doesn’t end at the next election cycle because the Senate, you get a six year term.

 

So I think her next term would end in four years from now, roughly, but that she’s going to pack it in and maybe the party will pack it in, which would be good. I would like to see One Nation dead. And some people who don’t know too much about the nuances of Australian politics might find it surprising that I would say that.

 

But the reason why I say that is because One Nation is a Paulineocracy. It’s impossible for anyone with talent to get in the party and do anything or for the members to do anything.

 

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And so the party effectively is a, whether it’s by design or by its own kind of internal psychological and organisational faults, effectively functions like a controlled opposition that prevents any real challenge to the Liberal Party from rising up on the Australian Right and so far as it exists, because it kind of sucks in the racist vote and then channels it all into occasionally saying some anti-Islam stuff and then waving an Israeli flag. And apparently having a base immigration policy, but not actually campaigning on it, even though it’s the number one issue in the country right now. Just useless! Just politically useless.

 

But maybe Drew could take over. Maybe he could be the new One Nation party figurehead and just change all of its policies to war-hawking against China or something. Could be kind of funny. Just like Drew Pavlou’s, like, entire, like, political beliefs have nothing to do with Australia. They’re just like, all directed to foreign countries like:

 

“Israel! And we got to save the Uyghurs from genocide against the against evil communist Chinese Communist Party or whatever!”

 

But when is Drew Pavlou ever talked about an Australian issue? You know I don’t think I’ve ever heard it. Like, he just purely talks about foreign policy because that’s where the money comes from, you see. Like, when you’re just taking money, all these foreign governments, or when he takes money to go and shill against China, he’s taking money from the US government in some way, but not directly. There are all of these, you know, effective lobbies for the US State Department that function within the Australian of foreign policy lobbyist kind of clique, and they fund this, that and the other thing. And that money must be filtering its way down to Drew in some way.

 

And obviously there’s all the jew money, the ZOG money.

 

Jacob Hersant: There’s also diaspora Chinese as well. Yeah, there’s Taiwanese and you’ve got all these Falun Gong. There’s lots of anti-CCP Chinese people. And they’re very wealthy, this community, and they have a lot of media influence and they pay influencers. So you probably get quite a bit of money.

 

Joel Davis: The only way that you can be into politics and not make money is if you actually advocate for Australian people. Because they don’t pay you. [chuckling] So as we know!

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: And then everyone attacks you because we live in a country totally occupied by foreign, parasitical, alien interests, and the Australian people have no organisation and no true representation. If they did, they’d probably pay Drew Pavlou to say some nice things about White Australians occasionally. That’s how you know that we don’t. We got to fix that. A victory condition is when, like, sociopath shills like Drew Pavlou are sucking off the White man for ASOG dollars, you know, Anglo Saxon Occupied Government dollars.

 

Jacob Hersant: ASOG [chuckling] Battalion!

 

Joel Davis: Anyway, have you got anything else to say, Tom? Any thoughts?

 

Thomas Sewell: I’m trying to avoid not to talk about Drew Pavlou.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we can go past that, maybe.

 

Thomas Sewell: Maybe go through the Superchats. Jacobs not on the show often. So it’d be good to get some hot takes from Jacob, maybe letting him run loose on the Superchats for a bit.

 

Joel Davis: So, by the way, you can follow Jacob on Twitter. [word unclear] Hersant, the Twitter account. What’s the at, yeah, that’s literally that. So go follow Jacob on Twitter, if you don’t already. Yeah, we won’t talk about Tom’s Twitter situation. I don’t know what he’s doing.

 

Jacob Hersant: We need a masked [words unclear].

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, because I’ve seen a remaking one and just calling it Bombers Bull.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, you put the mask on and it ontologically changes you into a new status. Now you’ve become somebody that cuckervatives on the Internet can call you a coward, and that makes you a different person:

 

“Take off the mask!”

 

Even when I’m posting clips of my face out screaming racism in the most public place in Melbourne:

 

“You’re a coward!”

 

Thomas Sewell: Getting arrested for it as well! [chuckling]

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, exactly!

 

Joel Davis: Someone said that to me today:

 

“All Nazis are cowards!”

 

In the picture of the three of us coming out of the courthouse that I posted and I said:

 

“Okay, well, why don’t we meet up in real life and you can say that to my face.”

 

Then he didn’t respond. Such a coward!

 

Jacob Hersant: I’ve noticed we’ve got so much traction and strength on X right now that I’m getting blocked by Leftists and normies when it used to be the other way around because we don’t want to get taken down obviously when they do these massive, they just go through all of your page and they report every single post that you have, hoping that you get taken down on a few of them and you get your account taken down. So the best policy is just to not interact with these people.

 

But I don’t even have to block people anymore because I say something on Twitter, I get hundreds of likes on it. They get completely ratioed and I’m just unapologetic. And they’re just like:

 

“I can’t win this. Like, you’re blocked.”

 

I don’t like reveling in people blocking me because I think blocking can be strategic. It can be like beneficial insofar as if you’re a big account, sometimes it’s better to block smaller accounts because like you don’t want to give them your clout. So it’s a kind of a form of ostracizing and excluding people that you see is not deserving it.

 

But yeah, so I don’t really, I don’t revel in it. I prefer people don’t block me if I want to comment on their things and get my point across. But I’ve noticed they’re blocking us very, very quickly now because they feel the power we have on X.

 

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Joel Davis: Yeah. A lot of accounts fear the Joel Davis ratio, that’s for sure! Although it’s kind of lost its cache. Like, it used to really mean something. Like now it’s kinda going through the motions, to be honest. I don’t feel as inspired as I once did. I’ve got to like find the magic. Yeah.

 

But the thing is that when Peter Dutton shills for the jews, then all like, the JIDF* Bots like hit the like, button. It’s really hard to get a ratio. He ends up getting like 6,000 likes on his jew shilling tweets. When he put out his regular tweets, they barely get a thousand likes. But those ones aren’t that interesting. So then I don’t really care about ratioing them.

 

[* The Jewish Internet Defense Force was an organisation ran social media campaigns from 2,000 to 2014 against websites and Facebook groups that it described as Islamic terrorism or anti-semitism. The group’s website, whose former domain now links to a gambling site, described the JIDF as a “private, independent, non-violent protest organisation representing a collective of activists”. The JIDF was termed “hacktivism” by the BBC and Haaretz. Wikipedia]

 

So it is a bit annoying. But yeah, we definitely, like, racism is owning X right now. Like, anti-semitism and racism has never been this hot on Twitter. Like, Twitter is basically 4chan at this point. It’s crazy! Like, just the other day, I saw one of these accounts, Apolitical, who’s a cool account, medium sized account. He responded to Sarah Silverman. Sarah Silverman called Marjorie Taylor Greene an anti-semite because Marjorie Taylor Greene speculated that, like, HARP weather weapons were used to cause the hurricanes that are now hitting the American south right now.

 

And for some reason, that makes her an anti-semite. I don’t know why. Like, what is she implying that, like:

 

“You’re saying that people are controlling the weather? You’re saying jews control the weather?”

 

Like, is it, like, an admission? I don’t know.

 

Jacob Hersant: So she not only an anti-semite, but an anti-semitic pig.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, she called her an anti-semitic pig, and then Apolitical tweeted her and said:

 

“You’re a semitic pig!”

 

And put a picture of her with a quote where she talked about how:

 

“The jews killed Jesus and it was awesome! We should do it again, if I could, or whatever!”

 

And it got 150,000 likes and just ratioed the fuck out of her.

 

And [chuckling] I was like, Twitter’s awesome now! I just see, like, tweets all the time, like, pro-National Socialist, like, pro-Hitler, pro-National Socialist Germany tweets doing insane numbers every day! And I see all these normies freaking out. Like:

 

“Why are there so many people that love Hitler? Like, this is insane!”

 

And they’re just getting washed over with just so many, like, radicalised Nazis online. Like, I remember I was talking about this the other day. I remember back in 2016 a lot of us were playing “sneaky Nazi”, as Tom calls it. A lot of us, we knew that the Holocaust was fake and stuff like that. But not everyone was necessarily identifying as open National Socialists.

 

Like, there was a sympathy there, but there was optical framing. Like, now it’s like, if you don’t openly declare your loyalty to Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist Party of Germany, then you’re a cuck! ! And the whole movement will jump on you. Like, the movement is so radical now. Even two years ago, it wasn’t as strong as it is now in that vein. It feels like, in the “dissident Right”, quote, unquote the Nazi position is now the ascendant and strongest position.

 

So I don’t know exactly what to make of that. I mean, there has a lot of implications.

 

But I think what it suggests is that this whole idea that:

 

“Hey, guys, can you just drop the Nazi stuff and go for cleaner optics?”

 

Maybe you guys just don’t realise that actually Nazism is cool and can become popular a That on a long enough timeline of exposure there’s millions and millions of White people that are going to be like:

 

“Holy shit, I’m a Nazi!”

 

And wouldn’t that be better? Like, would you rather than be a conservative, that’s kind of racist? Fuck no! That’s weak! Let’s hear it. Like, even if you aren’t a Nazi, if you care about saving the White race, then you should realise that the maximum amount of Nazis that can be converted within the White race as possible is going to increase the likelihood that we can. Right? So just let us cook!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I did an interview with Full House Podcasts back in 2020. And one of the questions he asked me, like, they always do. Like, all the podcasts always say:

 

“Okay, what was your moment that you became red pilled, or what was your moment that made you sort of go down this path?”

 

And I mentioned a few moments, but one of the ones that I remembered was always watching those documentaries on Hitler, World War in colour, and always wondering what Hitler was saying when he was sort of screaming in German. And then being on YouTube, there was this glory day of YouTube where there was just this brief period for one or two years where there was just Hitler speeches with subtitles. And watching that for the first time and Greatest Story Never Told and a bunch of other things, that just changed my whole life. Like, just watching a couple Hitler speeches with subtitles on YouTube back in 2013 changed my entire life! And there was probably only, like, maybe ten or 20,000 views on that video before it got deleted.

 

[1:49:54]

 

And now there’s videos on Twitter of AI generated Hitler, and it’s millions of views! And it’s getting re-uploaded daily, and it’s on TikTok, and there’s millions of views!

 

And to think how many millions of potential, like, serious political activists for National Socialism there’s going to be over the next decade. Because think about that. Like, I watched a Hitler speech in 2013 with the subtitles, and it sent me into a like, a six or nine month period where my brain was reordering and restructuring its entire worldview. And I was actually kind of confused. I was like:

 

“Wait a minute. What do I believe? What the fuck!”

 

Like, I was sure that he was the good guy, but I wasn’t. I didn’t know.

 

And so I can imagine there’s a bunch of kids that are kind of irony bros because they’re watching Hitler speeches on TikTok, and as they become adults and as they become affected by the gay jewish system and how, like because they’re 16 or whatever, and they’re watching this on TikTok and it’s just funny and it’s just edgy.

 

And then they’re 18 and they apply for a job and they get pushed back, or they apply for a university and they get pushed back, or they start seeing the kind of aggressive policies that push them downwards because they’re a straight White male. And those Hitler speeches are going to start coming around for them. They’re going to be like:

 

“I think it wasn’t irony. I think I actually do appreciate this man.”

 

So I agree with your sentiment, Joel, in saying that the people that are saying for us and constantly advising us to not go down this path and to go down this different path, and I find it so fascinating that they feel the need to tell us that. Because there’s millions of people going down the path of “vote for the Republican Party”. There’s already millions of people doing that. Why do we need to go down, … There’s already thousands of identitarians across the world or people that are going down, like, maybe a softer identitarian version. There’s already maybe dozens of No White Guilt supporters or whatever that branch of White nationalism is. Why does a leading figure like yourself or myself need to do anything other than what we innately believe is the right thing to do? Why do we need to do somebody else’s strategy? Why do we need to do, they’re already doing it!

 

So if it’s such a successful strategy, can’t they provide the evidence of how much success that they’ve had? And then why do they need to even contemplate or worry about what we’re doing if they’re having so much success?

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly! It’s like the evidence will be in the wash. It’s like, if they know a better way of doing it, they can just do it and then it’ll be popular.

 

And I actually support there being different, like, sub-genres of racism because there’s different personality types. And so, like, racism is so complex that it’s not going to be reduced only to one flavour. It’s like ice cream. It would come in like multiple different flavours. And like, everyone agrees ice cream is awesome! But you like chocolate, but you like, I don’t know, cookies and cream or you like strawberry or whatever. It’s like when we have an ice cream shop, we’re not only going to sell one flavour, we’re going to go out of business. I want to sell, you know:

 

“Which kind of ice cream do you want? We’ve got like 50 flavours!”

 

That’s a more effective way to sell racism. So I’m totally supportive of people producing different flavours of racism. I don’t understand why they aren’t supportive of it, too. Like, everything doesn’t have to be the same. In fact, it would be worst.

 

Thomas Sewell: Maybe they’re jealous. Maybe they don’t like our extreme racism. Maybe because they want the attention. What do you think, Jacob?

 

Jacob Hersant: But to be clear, if we are an ice cream flavour, National Socialism is vanilla. We are the vanilla flavour of ice cream! We know all ice cream flavours are equal, but some ice cream flavours are more equal than others. And we are vanilla. We are the Whitest of the White when it comes to ice cream flavours! And you guys can go be cookies and cream. You can mix a little bit of soft cuntism into your ideology, but will remain vanilla.

 

Joel Davis: Soft cuntism! That’s such an Aussie-ism! [chuckling]

 

Jacob Hersant: They’re just like:

 

“Okay, how about we save the White race, but we be soft cunts while we do it?”

 

And we’re like:

 

“No, we’re vanilla. We’re hard cunts! That’s what we do!”

 

We go out to court and we say:

 

“I have no remorse. I have no regrets. The jews are gonna regret making me a free speech martyr!”

 

That’s vanilla flavour right there. That’s hard cuntism! And people just need to understand that you gotta embrace the inner hard cunt in you! You just gotta have that cunt about, you just got to have that power. You got to have the Whiteman’s might.

 

But I think most of these people are motivated by personal reasons. They want security. They want us to wallow in obscurity. Because if you’re obscure and nobody really cares about you or really knows about you, then enemies aren’t going to go and seek harm upon you. And they view themselves as being on our team rightly, insofar as they want White people to survive.

 

But when we go out there and we confront the enemy and we bring our message out there, we necessarily draw hostility from our enemies. And they’re concerned about this hostility because they want to save their own skin. They want comfort. They don’t want things to get uncomfortable. Because the jews can make a quiet uncomfortable for you. I experienced that today where we were in kind of limbo between whether or not I would be in prison or not.

 

[1:55:54]

 

And obviously the magistrate was having a lot of fun. But they don’t want to be in those situations! They don’t want to be potentially going to jail. They don’t want to be ostracized. They don’t want to lose their job. They don’t want to lose personal friends.

 

But I would say these people are even your friends. If they’re gonna ostracize you based on your political views, you need to find new friends. But they’re scared of all of these kind of things that they see as negative. And then when they have this kind of core emotional need for security, the ideals come later. They rationalise these feelings into ideologies, and they say:

 

“Well, you can’t be doing that because you’re going to get laws changed and make it harder for us to organise.”

 

I saw cuckservatives in the wider kind of pro-White scene, they were complaining that:

 

“The Roman salute got banned because we were doing the Roman salute. And if only we hadn’t have been doing the Roman salute, the Roman salute wouldn’t have been banned!”

 

This is just not logical. And you have to see it as rationalisations for their feelings. They say:

 

“Well, all this wouldn’t be in the media. We wouldn’t be being called Nazis. And also, I would be able to give the Roman salute among my friends, my trusted friends, maybe three or four of them. Now, I can’t do that. I’m upset!”

 

It’s all rationalisation for this kind of inner soft cunt in them.

 

But, you know, as we’re going to be harder and bigger and stronger and all these kind of things, you’re going to see the hard cunt come out in the Whiteman. And that’s what we’re inspiring. That is what Joel was talking about with vanguardism.

 

When the vanguard goes forward strong with hard cunt energy and smashes into the enemy lines, you’re going to find all these people lose their soft cunt energy, follow in our wake and form that centre. And they’ll push through the anti-White lines as well. And they will help us take state power. And then we can have fun. But I won’t detail the fun right now because even I have a little bit of soft cunt energy in me! [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: There’s an important aspect to this as well, which is that we are likable Nazis. Like, we are Nazis that the people like, … Yeah, people hate us, but a lot of people like us!

 

And if you could be a likable Nazi, that itself is meta-politically transformative. Because if people are like:

 

“Wait a second, why am I, like, supporting the Nazis in this situation?”

 

Then it’s a complete mind fuck! Like that subverts the entire Judeo morality of “Nazis equals the most horrible thing ever”. Which is really at the core of the entire anti-White ideological framework. The pathologisation of White Identity. The pathologisation of White virility, of White assertiveness.

 

I jumped on a Twitter space briefly yesterday. It was run by this American ex-coal burner chick called Pearl Davis. It’s really unfortunate that she’s of my clan. I’m very embarrassed! She is no longer, like, I’m officially casting her off from the Davis clan. She’s a disgusting mud shark!

 

But she shot to fame through basically trying to do the whole so-called “pick me discourse” where a woman will say all the red, like Andrew Tate talking points, but from a woman perspective or whatever. And I only really found out who she was because she interviewed Nick Fuentes last year, and that made a lot of waves.

 

And then I started seeing her on Twitter just generally being annoying. And I haven’t really thought much about her other than those two things. But I saw there was a Twitter space she was hosting called “What’s Wrong with Interracial Dating?”

 

And I thought:

 

“That’s kind of interesting. I’ll jump on.”

 

And there was another White nationalist arguing with some, like, other people in the space. And then he left. So I thought, I’ll jump in and have a go. So I jumped in and I articulated some of my points about how I said:

 

“Well, look, I don’t really, …”

 

Because a lot of them were, like, non-Whites talking about how much they like dating other non-Whites.

 

And I was like:

 

“Listen, I don’t really care. I don’t give a fuck if a black guy mixes with an Asian. Like, I don’t give a fuck! I only care about Whites mixing, because that’s the only thing that impacts me, and my country. I want to have a White country. And the only way to continue having a White country is White people continuing to fuck each other and creating more White babies to produce more White country. They start having sex with non-Whites. Well, then you have a non-White country. Unless I said, if there’s a White guy and he really loves, you know, Filipino pussy, he can go move to the Philippines and knock himself out. I don’t care! He can go join their nation. But I don’t want to live in the Philippines. So I don’t want my race having sex with Filipinos and producing, you know, 85% of genes code for neurophysiology. You know, if you’re going to have, you know, half of that being Filipino, you’re not going to be able to think like a Whiteman. You’re not going to act like a Whiteman. It’s going to destroy my culture. It’s going to destroy my way of life if that kind of thing goes on. So that’s why I’m opposed to it!”

 

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And then some of, I think they were non-Whites, they retorted with:

 

“You’re from Australia you know, what about the Aboriginals? Like, is it really your country?”

 

And I said:

 

“What about the Aboriginals?”

 

And they said:

 

“But weren’t they there first?”

 

And I said:

 

“Well, they lost. We won! What about them?”

 

And they were expecting me to try and go through some, like, whole convoluted argument, but I just batted away, like:

 

“Fuck them! Who cares? We took the country off them. Fuck them!”

 

And they just kind of laughed.

 

And then the conversation just continued. And when you show just total, like, strength and disregard of the enemy rhetorically, there’s this idea that that’s really bad optics. I got into a big argument on the timeline, this text wall battle with Keith Woods on Twitter a few days ago where he was basically saying that when you advocate for imperialism, when you advocate for an aggressive assertion of your racial interests in foreign policy, beyond just getting your countries back, that this is going to freak people out and it’s very unoptical. And I consulted Blair because I see Blair as a man who understands the normie. And Blair said:

 

“No, I don’t actually agree with that. The average person respects strength. If you show strength and fortitude, that’s actually quite respectable.”

 

And everyone else in politics right now is selling victimhood, is selling some narrative about how they’re the victim of some immoral process, and is trying to sell you some kind of moral rationalisation about why you should sympathize with them.

 

And I think a lot of people are just sick and tired of this! You get inundated with too much moralism. If someone could just step forward and say what my message is:

 

“Is not I want non-Whites to feel sorry for White people and let us have our country’s back. My message is I want White people to take our fucking countries back!”

 

And we can! We don’t actually need to give a fuck about what anyone else thinks. We can take it back. We can take the fucking world back if we really want to. It’s a message of empowerment! It’s not a message of begging for permission or rationalizing why it’s okay. It’s a message of saying:

 

“We have the power right now to rectify all of these problems and take back control of our lives and of the destiny of our nations and of our people. Let’s fucking do that!”

 

And that’s actually a very beautiful message. That’s actually a very powerful message.

 

The idea that isn’t something which would have appeal, I just think is wrong. Empowerment is a very beautiful thing! Telling people that this tortured, like moral idea about how, like:

 

“You’re a victim and there’s all these bad people that are out to get you and we have to beg for society to become more sympathetic towards us. Otherwise we’re like hopeless victims that’ll be genocided!”

 

That’s a horrible thing to believe in. If you believe in that, then that’s a horrible world that you live in. You live in a world as a helpless victim. And you just become scorned and depressed and just:

 

“It’s not fair! People aren’t being fair to White people! Aren’t being fair to White men!”

 

That’s gay. It’s like, we’re fucking White men! We can fucking just take it back! Let’s get together, let’s form, let’s collectivise, let’s come back together again, and let’s take it fucking back! We can fucking do it! Let’s fight for it! To me, that’s way more sexy! That’s way more sexy!

 

So to me, like, this idea that that’s unoptical or that’s not going to appeal to people, I just fundamentally disagree! I think there has not been one politician in modern history, in human history, that is more popular than Adolf Hitler, that has been more loved. Adolf Hitler!

 

So this idea that that’s the nuclear thing. We don’t want to touch. We don’t want to touch that because:

 

“Whoa, that’s scary!”

 

It’s like, wait a second. You know, we have the most popular guy in all modern history, and you don’t want to associate yourself with that? He just looks like there has never been optics that good! There has never been aura that, like that impeccable! As if you don’t want to attach yourself to that’s insane! Like, people are afraid of power. They’re like:

 

“Oh, don’t say that. Don’t say this. Don’t say all this empowerment narrative. Don’t talk, don’t, like, manifest your own power. That’s going to freak people out. You know, make yourself weak. Subordinate yourself. Beg like a little bitch for moral equality!”

 

No, fuck that!

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s crazy to think that 99.9% of people since Hitler that have entered politics have on the Right-wing have done everything they could to avoid Hitler. And look at the situation we’re in. And then they’ll point to these people that are critics of us. They’ll point to okay, half a dozen examples of people trying to do the Hitler thing again and it not working. It’s like:

 

“Okay, so there’s maybe six times that trying to do Hitler again since 1945 didn’t work.”

 

Okay, well done. Like George Lincoln Rockwell, got assassinated. William Luther Pierce kind of just became an intellectual of the movement. His physical movement didn’t really take off. It’s like, cool! So you got six examples of guys that did a pretty good job and it didn’t work out. And then you’ve got, like, how many thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of examples of conservatism not working, and not going anywhere, not achieving anything, and only just reinforcing the general degradation and moral corruption of society?

 

[2:06:41]

 

 

So it’s like, why would you try to paralyze? This is where it gets suspicious for some people. Not for all, I think for a lot. I agree with Jacob’s sentiment that a lot of it just comes from, they want security. Most people that are engaged in politics, they want the comfortable path. They want to assert themselves only enough to be able to make a name for themselves and then have a comfortable, what are the politicians call it? Like a pension. They want a comfortable pension. They want to assert themselves enough, get elected, or in the case of the Twitter sphere or the Internet, political jargon. You’ve got people that can get enough of a following through their sentiments and through a little bit of creative reasoning that they can produce an income from Twitter, you know, where they can make a nice salary, a nice pension, and they don’t want to disrupt that.

 

But one thing that makes our ideology quite robust, in my opinion, is the hunger. You know, Kurt Eggers says:

 

“Man whose hand lies on treasures cannot wield the sword.”

 

And I think it’s good. The longer we can go in a situation where we’re not being made fat and comfortable and satiated by the system, the longer our movement can build up a cadre of an ideologically pure people that aren’t just yes men, because it’s a system that now represents power.

 

But, yeah, someone’s got to give it a go. Someone’s got to actually look at what Hitler did, feel the aura, feel the mood, and be like:

 

“You know what? I think there’s a way of bringing that to the 21st century.”

 

You know, not exactly the same. Obviously, we’re reasonable people, but let’s bring that aura to the 21st century. Let’s bring it back. And where the guy’s doing it and anyone that’s counter-signaling that on the Right, maybe they want the White race to fail, or maybe they’re just a little bit insecure about the way that we’ve done it so far.

 

Joel Davis: They don’t believe in the White race. Like, ultimately they’re demoralised. Like, they don’t believe that White people have the internal strength to assert ourselves.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: They think that White people are a bunch of pussies that are too., … That’s what they literally think. They think White people are a bunch of pussies, and White people just simply won’t come together and fight for it! Even though we can have the material resources to take everything back. We have the material quantity of manpower to take everything back. We have the strength in raw terms. We just lack the spirit! Just lack the will and organisation because the White man’s cucked. And all you can do is negotiate some kind of equitable arrangement that people will agree upon:

 

“Okay, that sounds kind of reasonable. No one’s going to get hurt. And that seems like a fair exchange. And we can just kind of negotiate and wholesome chungus our way out. We can just nice guy our way out of this!”

 

We’re not nice guying our way out of this. We’re fighting our fucking way out of this, or we’re dying!

 

Thomas Sewell: I’m gonna be back in like, two minutes if you guys want to, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, we can start on, …

 

Joel Davis: Do you have thoughts on that, though? Because, I think it’s more interesting probably than the Superchats, this subject. I think it’s an important subject. It came up this week as well. I thought this past week, in a few ways for me, my engagement with online. And I feel like this is actually like a very common, like, theme in the movement. The one argument is:

 

“You guys are making us look bad because you’re associating us with this immoral image, and immorality is unpopular.”

 

And then our assertion is if we don’t challenge that morality, we never become strong enough and develop the stomach to do what is necessary to take it all back. And so we have to challenge and destroy that morality as opposed to placate it.

 

And then there’s an even, like, deeper level to this, which is that in a certain sense that is really, like the reason why we’re in this mess in the first place is because of this cucked, egalitarian, like bourgeois morality of the modern world. And that the overcoming of that is basically the spiritual crisis facing the Aryan.

 

And then there’s a superficial aspect of this which relates to this. I posted an article, I think The Noticer wrote an article about this as well. They did a poll, and in the poll of Australians, they asked:

 

“Should the government shut down the pro-Palestinian rallies or should they keep them open? Should they shut down the pro-Israel rallies? Should they keep them open?”

 

And the majority of Australians said that they should shut down both. Like, 60% of Australians said:

 

“Shut them both down. We’re sick of hearing about zionism! We’re sick of hearing about it from either side.”

 

And I was like:

 

“That’s interesting, because I remember at the beginning of the conflict, I put forward the notion of the ‘fuck both sides position’.”

 

And a lot of people were saying:

 

“Oh, like, that’s callous! You know White people are moral, and if we don’t hitch our wagon to the Palestinian case, then White people are going to look down at you and think that you’re just disgusting filth and you’re letting the jew get away with it!”

 

And like, all these kinds of arguments.

 

And it’s like, no, but wait a second. Like, fundamentally, the problem with that is that it’s like, it shouldn’t be our fucking problem! The jews shouldn’t be in our country! The fucking Muslims shouldn’t be in our country! They should be over there. The dispute is their fucking problem! It shouldn’t even be our fucking problem! And that’s actually how the majority of people feel.

 

And so this idea that the majority of people are these, like moralisers that are obsessed with the plight of all these foreigners that they have nothing to do with. I think it’s just bullshit! I think that’s a contrivance.

 

But how do you see it?

 

[2:12:22]

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I think you’re right about us not needing to hitch our wagon to the Palestinians because the jews are right in the fact that these Palestinians and these Arabs and these Islamists are rapists and are murderers. But we just recognise that the jews are the very same and probably worse. Well, not even probably, they are worse! They are more vicious. But that does not change the fact that Arabs, or if we can even still call them a race, really, most of them are an amalgamation of several races. They’re mongrels and Muslims in general, a race and a religion of vicious rapists and murderers that basically want to conquer the world. And there we have nothing morally to gain by allying with them at all! It is totally alien to our sensibility as Aryans to ally with these people.

 

At the same time, it’s the same argument for the jews. But the jews are probably worse. You could make a pragmatic argument that we should side with the Palestinians because the jews represent a far graver threat to the survival of our race than Muslims do. And I would agree with you on that they’re more dangerous. I’m not so certain whether or not we have anything to gain by allying with Muslims.

 

Maybe some Muslims in their own countries, any country, any Muslim that is in invader here in our lands, whether it be Europe or America or Australia, these people cannot be allied with because fundamentally they’re against our interests. They’re invaders here. And you see, every time people who are a bit more naive or politically immature reach out their hand and try to have a friendship with these people, it will be maybe a week, or a few days later these Muslims will be gloating about the destruction of our race! The fact that some weak Whites are converting to Islam, that our culture is being destroyed, that they are trying to demographically replace us and all that. Theywill gloat about it. They think it’s funny.

 

We cannot ally with these people. It’s absolutely insane to try to do it! Perhaps you could make an argument that you could ally with Muslims in their own parts of the world, but pragmatically, but never morally. We have nothing in common morally with Muslims. And we have nothing in common as Aryans, as pure Aryans with a mongrel race which is partly Asian, partly Dravidian, partly semitic, partly partly African. Because the Middle East has just been a cauldron of miscegenation and mongrelisation. So we have nothing in common in terms of blood with these people, nothing in common in terms of honour.

 

So what were we talking about? I had another point. I should have written it down. But what were we talking about?

 

Joel Davis: We’re talking about generally as well, like it’s basically the dispute between, it could be reduced. This is a crude reduction, but the crude reduction is like Nietzschean versus Christian. But that’s a crude reduction because it’s not necessarily exactly how it stacks out. But the reduction is basically through a kind of universalistic moral framework that basically defends White interests. That through the acknowledgement of universal rights, White rights are represented within that universal structure. And that’s what we should be arguing for. And that’s the best way to convince White people that it’s legitimate for White people to have interests if they’re embedded within a universal equality on some level versus a totally unequal supremacist viewpoint. Instead of Nietzschean versus Christian, that’s a bit inflammatory. I should have said supremacist versus egalitarian.

 

The supremacist viewpoint is, no, we should just assert ourselves. Life is struggle. It’s a dog-eat-dog world. Nature is, there’s a certain, like, zero sum reality to power. Nature is brutal, has a brutal aspect to it. This life is a knife fight. Existence is a knife fight. By the way, that’s what a Saxon is a knife fighter. That’s what it means etymologically. But existence is a knife fight. And we’re only going to survive if we’re willing to fight and assert ourselves against, you know, other forces that have their own existential interests. Like the Asians are fighting. The jews are fighting, the Muslims are fighting, the blacks are fighting, like everyone else is fighting for their slice of the pie. And we should just take the biggest fucking slice that we can take. If we could take the whole pie, I’ll fucking take it! We should have that attitude. And some people say:

 

“Well, that’s a bit much, man. You know what I mean? Maybe you shouldn’t say that.”

 

So that’s the basic dispute.

 

[2:18:07]

 

Jacob Hersant: I thought of what I was going to say regarding the difference between the more radical and fanatical nationalism that we represent, and the more kind of what they would call optical or less fanatic, perhaps a bit more moderate, more concerned with having reconciliation with some of these other groups.

 

But I don’t think it’s actually more optical or more attractive to people than what they suppose. I think that really, when you think about what is popular in terms of media and stories and things like that, it’s always conflict and it’s always drama. These are the most popular stories, is what people watch. People like seeing conflict. And that doesn’t mean that, of course, people are attracted to battles and warfare and all that kind of stuff because it’s the height of conflict. But whether it be court battles or social battles or all these kind of things, drama, all of these kind of things, that’s what actually attracts people. And they’re trying to downplay that aspect of the human condition when it’s actually the most popular part of human life. People like drama, people like conflict! People like that because that’s what they consume. When they have time away from work and slaving. They go home, they watch Netflix. They watch some sort of conflict, a fictional conflict, or maybe documentaries about real conflict, but that’s what people are really interested in.

 

And another thing is, there’s not a lot of people are preaching this as much nowadays. But then there’s the more cuckservative people that think that we need to have non-Whites to make us look a little bit more optical, to make us White people like us. We need to have a few blacks or Indians among us so that we don’t look as racist, we don’t look as hostile and threatening. But we can see now, especially with Hollywood, that that is wildly unpopular with the fact that all of these movies are tanking by virtue of having lesbians and non-Whites shoehorned everywhere! People actually liked media better when it was racially homogeneous. It represented traditional values and all these kind of things. And we would be fools to not learn this lesson, because Hollywood isn’t. And they’re losing millions, billions of dollars on this folly!

 

You know, we need to be like Joker One. That was wildly popular because the person was getting beaten down. And then it came to the epitome or to the end with the conflict, where he struck back and he killed a bunch of people. There was conflict, and people love that.

 

And then what have we got for Joker Two? The conflict doesn’t even happen, and he just dies at the end. He’s just weak! And people hate it! And we need to be Joker One. We don’t need to be Joker Two.

 

Joel Davis: It’s customary to say, like, spoiler alert, but, …

 

Jacob Hersant: But, yeah, well, I’m not gonna, …

 

Joel Davis: It sucks so bad, so fuck it!

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m telling you that movie is so anti-White, and it’s well, anti-White, and anti-traditional, anti-everything that is good in this world that I will not give anyone a spoiler alert. If you go see that movie, you’re a race traitor! [chuckling] And I went and saw it, but I didn’t know. And I’ll freely admit to my race treason on that!

 

Thomas Sewell: You did it as a Martyr. Jacob watched Joker Two as a Martyr to the White race.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I did it. And it weighs on me. The fact that I paid money to go see this. It was horrifying! So I’ve done you a favour by spoiling it.

 

And if you go see it now that you’ve had it spoiled for you, yeah, you’re actively engaging in race treason. At least I was ignorant of my race treason. The movie, when the credits were coming on, I was just lying there, just destroyed, morally, spiritually destroyed at the race treason I had committed.

 

But we need to project strength. We need to project racial purity as well. Homogeneity. We need to project all these things because it’s actually attractive. People like that. The more Nazi you make a movie, the more National Socialist, traditional, racially homogeneous you make a movie, you would find that would be the most successful movie in Hollywood right now, because people are attracted to that.

 

And the more woke you go when it comes to video games or with movies, the less popular you’re gonna be. And we need to learn this lesson for our politics. We don’t need a bunch of brown people standing around us saying:

 

“You know, they’re not racist. They accept me.”

 

We don’t need a bow our heads down and go:

 

“Ohhh!”

 

Joel Davis: It’s not sexy!

 

Jacob Hersant: Exactly! Like at court.

 

Joel Davis: You know, I love the groypers, but it’s not sexy.

 

Jacob Hersant: It’s like, [chuckling] at court I could have made the choice to embrace the soft cunt! I could have been like:

 

“Oh like, I didn’t mean to offend people, but blah, blah, blah!”

 

And just groveled. But that’s not attractive. And people do like you being staunch in your convictions. Because it would have just looked silly if I had been said to have given the Roman salute. And I’m going:

 

“No, no, da da, da.”

 

And being remorseful.

 

But then people will be like how I did it, they’ll be like:

 

“I respect the fact that he’ll stand up for his views.”

 

And I think that’s why the media are so frustrated, because they play clips of me, but they’re not gotchas. They’re just my views. Like, they’re broadcasting my views and making me look good.

 

And that’s the thing. They’re going to have to come to terms with the fact that National Socialism is looking pretty good in 2024, and it’s going to be a lot harder as time goes on to demonise us and make us look bad.

 

[2:24:23]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. As I said, all the culture is going for sympathy and trying to solicit your sympathy, trying to moralise to you. Who’s coming to you with vitality and strength? You know, that’s the untapped potential. That’s the market.

 

You know, I think that’s where we want to go. Like, people say:

 

“Oh when you stand there in the black, you guys look kind of, aggressive and intimidating!”

 

It’s like if we were standing there and we looked like a bunch of spurgs, skinny little spurgs that no one thought was going to commit violence. Like, we don’t commit violence, but we want to at least look the part. If we don’t look the part, then that’s gay! [chuckling] Like, we don’t want to go in the street and look like a bunch of pussies! We want to look staunch! We want to look like:

 

“Don’t fuck with us!”

 

We want to intimidate. Because that’s what it’s about. It’s about saying:

 

“The White man is going to fight back! The White man is not here to fucking grovel. The White man is here to show some balls!”

 

And that’s so important because there’s not really many examples of the Whiteman showing balls anymore.

 

Like, when you’re talking about movies, it made me think of the film Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. And that’s like one, I think, Tarantino’s best film, in my opinion, because it’s kind of subtle critique of the wokeffication and the pussification of Hollywood. And there’s like, this one bit because it’s like the film is set in the sixties and one of the main characters is an actor. The two main characters, which are played by Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt. Like, Brad Pitt is like the stuntman that does the stunt roles for Leonardo DiCaprio. And they’re, like buddies. And they act in westerns. And the whole point of a western, like, an old school Hollywood western was its just like some Chad Aryan just fucking people up. And you just you zoned into that kind of giga Chad aspect of:

 

“That guy’s so cool, and he’s fucking everybody up!”

 

And he’s like, he’s got the gun whipped out quickly and he’s got all the one liners and he’s staunch! And that was what Hollywood was about.

 

And then you just have the sexy love interest, and she’s just a babe. She’s just oozing in sexuality. And he’s just like a chad who just fucks people up. And that was what movies were about. Like, back in the day. Even the eighties still had that. But you never really see films like that anymore. And it just isn’t even that particularly political, you would think. But you still never see movies like that anymore. Who’s the action heroes anymore? When do you just have a simple 101 Chad White dude who just fucks up someone, whether he be a cop, fucking up gangsters, or whether it’s like, he’s like a secret agent fucking up terrorists or whatever the case may be. Like, every eighties movie was like this.

 

And then you’ve got some babe, and there’s some scene in it where, like, she’s wearing a tight shirt and it’s raining and she’s got great tits and then he drives around like a sports car. There’s a cool cop chase. That’s all we want to see! A lot of people, that’s what they want to see, but they don’t even get that anymore. Like, ZOG can’t even give that to you anymore because they’re afraid even of that!

 

Jacob Hersant: And people crave that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, exactly that.

 

Jacob Hersant: And it’s going to be. This is going to be the militant White man era of Australia. That’s what’s coming! People are craving it! And we will give them the militant White man! That’s what we need to be. That’s the archetype that we all need to embody. We hold it. And what was the militant White man par excellence? It was the Waffen SS soldier! And that’s a model we need to hold up before us. We need to be Wehrmacht and Waffen SS soldiers. We don’t need to wear the uniform, but we have to have the same spirit and the same bearing. That’s what we need to be. We need to be militant, the militant White man! And that’s what the man in black, the Black Shirt with his mask on, that’s what he represents. He represents the militant White man.

 

So I think everyone needs to hold that ideal before them. And even if there is not a lot of militant White men now, if we have that ideal, people can model themselves on that ideal. It can be a role model for people. And one day very soon, we will have a lot of militant White men!

 

 

Joel Davis: And that’s the other thing as well with this moralizing. Like, the reason why moralizing is offensive. Like, they talk about how offensive it is to be vitalistic and to be assertive and, yeah, that is offensive.

 

But also being moralizing is offensive, because moralizing is a subtle form of cruelty in many ways as well. Like when you see the woke Leftist trying to cancel people and stuff like that isn’t, that isn’t something that people like. They see that as a form of cruelty. They see that as a form of aggression and excess as well. Like someone chastising someone morally and trying to denigrate their character. Like that is kind of disgusting! Like that also has its own repulsion, as well.

 

So this idea that we’ve got to put ourselves within a moral box to be more presentable, it’s like, that also makes us gay. Like, why do you think conservative politicians are all fags that no one likes or respects? Because they do that! And it’s cringe! And when they come out and say the lines and they’re being optical and ticking all the boxes of what is like wholesome chungas that they’re supposed to agree with and all the moral points they’re supposed to ascend to, it just comes off as inauthentic and it comes off as cringe! So that also has a lot negative in its camp as well. Talking to you about this because you talked about the Joker. I remember, I watched, I thought of this because of thinking of Quentin Tarantino. There was a clip I saw of a Quentin Tarantino interview.

 

[2:30:22]

 

And I’m not saying this because I’m some big Quentin Tarantino fan, by the way. I know Quentin Tarantino has done a lot of cringe shit and he went to Epstein island and he made Inglorious Basterds, which was just like a anti-Nazi propaganda film and so on. Like, I’m not soyjacking over him, but there was an interesting interview I watched. And he basically was talking about the first Joker movie, like the Joaquin Phoenix as Joker, first Joker movie. And he was saying what he thought was so brilliant about that film. What he was so impressed by was that scene where the Joker kills the talk show host guy. He’s like, in the film, they build up so much tension around the talk show host and they make you, like, hate him more and more and more! And they build up all this tension in the character of the Joker where he’s, like he’s getting screwed over and abused by so many people. And the rage builds up and it’s, like, finally starting to manifest. And that, like, as the audience, before he kills the talk show host, you’re already baying for blood. You’re like:

 

“I want him to just like, ..!”

 

And then he does it and it’s like, this kind of ecstatic, like:

 

“Yes! Like, he fucked him up!”

 

And it’s meta. Because that’s kind of what the Joker represents is that repressed aggression and cruelty and showing that all of the whole social facade that on its face it presents itself with optics, but actually beneath those optics, like:

 

“We’re all pieces of shit! We’re all the Joker!”

 

And the Joker holds up the Mirror to society and says, like:

 

“See, there’s darkness in all of you know, am I the Joker or are you the Joker?”

 

And all of this whole pretence is a joke. And that’s what he kind of represents. That kind of chaos that, like, chaotic, like, social, like, breakdown in its own internal contradictions. And that’s kind of like the ecstatic release of energy that gets built up in the audience and says:

 

“Wait a second. Like, you’re kind of a psycho! Why did you want that dude’s head blown off? Like, he didn’t really do anything wrong. He’s just kind of a dick!”

 

Like, he didn’t do anything particularly immoral, if I can remember correctly about in that film. But you just want him dead anyway! And you love to see it!

 

And so, it’s kind of like, yeah, it’s meta. It’s showing you there’s a bit of that inside you.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, that’s what you want to do when you see the Joker just constantly, constantly denigrated and beaten down by all of these people in society. You want him to strike back! You want that strength in him. And that’s what you get in the first one, and that’s why the people loved it!

 

And then in the second one, he’s getting beaten down. All of these terrible things are happening to him. And so what happens is he gets raped by prison guards, he gets rejected by his girl, and then he loses his identity and gives up on his Joker Persona and just says that he’s the weak Arthur Fleck. And then he’s been beaten down, and you’re expecting him to strike back because that’s what you want him to do you want him to strike back. You want him to assert his strength again through violence, particularly. And what happens? He just gets murdered senselessly at the end by somebody else. He just stabs him.

 

And that’s why people hate it! Because, honestly, they want the Whiteman to fight back. That’s why we say, “Whiteman fight back!” They want us to strike back. People are attracted to that. They’re not attracted to getting murdered in a prison, after you got raped, you gave up your identity, and your girl rejected you. People aren’t attracted to that. [chuckling] You can be a loser like the Joker is. He’s handicapped. Nobody respects him and all these kind of things, but then everyone likes him at the end because at least he stood up for himself and he struck back. That’s why people loved it! And we can learn that lesson in ourselves. We don’t want to be cowards! We don’t want to give up our identity as Whitemen.

 

And if most people are, honest, they don’t have any problem with National Socialism in terms of identifying with our ideas and all these kind of things. They’re kind of sneaky Nazis themselves, but they’re rejecting their identity. That isn’t attractive to people. Embracing your identity and then fighting back for your identity, that is what is attractive to people. And that’s what we got to learn. We got to learn that.

 

And that’s why National Socialist Network and the Australian National Socialist movement in Australia is the biggest thing right now. And there are a bunch of smaller groups that do not come out with that militant Whiteman. They don’t come out with being honest to our identity, being unapologetic, being strong, being on the attack. That’s why they’re not as attractive. People aren’t attracted to it. People don’t care. Nobody really cares about these groups. They don’t get talked about. They don’t get attacked.

 

And people need to learn that they need to embrace the militant Whiteman, that archetype. They need to take that as a model, and they need to live more like that, because then you’re gonna see success like we’re seeing. And you should just get involved, get active, because these “comfort clubs”, they’re not gonna get anywhere. When there is people that are gonna embrace that energy and are allowed to embrace that energy and express themselves like that in the country, people are gonna be more attracted to that. And you should just go with the energy. We may not be perfect. We may have some problems. We may not be doing exactly the most, the best thing, but at the same time, we have the biggest energy because we do have something right. And it is that exact fact. It is that fact of being true to your identity and fighting with all of your might for that identity. People respect that.

 

[2:36:33]

 

Joel Davis: I just want to touch on one thing. I want to get Tom’s clarification.

 

There’s been a bit of controversy this week. We were accused of having genocidal intent towards Slavs. I believe comments that were made were clipped and then interpreted incorrectly, taken out of context. We should probably address it. I think some people discussing in the chat.

 

Now, my position is this. I’m not going to speak for Tom. I’ll let Tom speak his position. My position is this. I believe in a pan-European alliance, that we shouldn’t have wars or conflicts to the fullest extent possible between the different ethnic groups of the European race, which includes the Meds and the Slavs, because we’re collectively as a race, being attacked, the enemy doesn’t differentiate, doesn’t, like, let the Slavs or the meds get away with it or something. You know, that would be absurd! So, existentially, we’re bound together, and we do have some internal differences, but we’re way more similar to each other by many, many times than we are to anybody else. And we share so much more with one another than we share with anybody else.

 

And I don’t view, in the Australian context, if somebody is a Slav, or a Med. I don’t view them as an existential threat to Australia. I say that if you’re someone who has a strong ethnic identity, like, you’re really whole hyped about being Italian or being Croatian or Polish or something, and that matters more to you than being part of Australia. My advice is to move back to Italy or Croatia or Poland, wherever it is, because that’s where your heart belongs. That’s just good advice as a human human. But as well, like but if you’re willing to go:

 

“Yep! Like, we’ll be loyal to Australia. Like, I’m Croatian or I’m Italian, but I’m in for Australia for the Whiteman. And we can come together.”

 

Then I’ll stand shoulder to shoulder with you and we’ll fight for the Whiteman in this country. That’s my position. I think it’s a reasonable position. It’s not a hostile position at all!

 

And in Europe, I don’t want any inter-European wars. We’ve fought way too many wars against the past, lost way too much blood. We need to be focusing all of our aggression outwardly against, expanding, you know, collective European power for the benefit of all European ethnic groups and subgroups, in my view, and working together.

 

So that’s my view. At the same time as an Anglo-Celtic individual, like, Anglo-Celtic Australian, that ethnic identity matters to me. This is a country that my ancestors built. I’m very proud of that ancestry. I’m very. And I obviously have. I’m very proud of just the general kind of Celto-Germanic people groups that make up, like, my ancestry. And I feel more in common with the other ethnic groups that are more similar to the English, and that’s also fine. Like, I don’t understand what we’ll get offended by that.

 

Like, I’ve got more in common with someone from England than I do with someone from Ukraine. Doesn’t mean I hate Ukrainians. I have Ukrainian friends. I like Ukrainians. I don’t have a problem with Ukrainians, but it’s just a reality. So I wouldn’t be offended if a Ukraine, like, if there’s a group of guys and the Ukrainian guys all link up and start, like, speaking Ukrainian to each other and, like talking about Ukrainian stuff, I’m not going to get offended. Of course, that’s just natural.

 

So there’s a natural, like, ethnic identity that we all have and that affects the heart, but that doesn’t mean the hostility to one another. We can easily kind of just accept that and respect that and be one big European family that sees we have a shared destiny on this planet.

 

And now with the European Union and the United States, like, there’s these big political groupings that contain so many European ethnicities within it. Like, it’s kind of unavoidable, like, for European countries. No one European country can really, like, break free of the direction of European politics. Europe has to save itself collectively, so we have to work together. It’s just a practical reality. That’s my position. Tom’s remarks was taken as, like, he just wants to genocide Slavs or something. I don’t think that’s he was saying. I think he was saying the opposite. I think he wants, like, Slavic expansion.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, I’ll address it because there’s so many things to cover. I’ll try to do it as concisely as possible, because I’m tired, which is similar to when those sound bites are taken. It’s like we do a two hour stream. We cover a whole bunch of things, and then we just start kind of spurging out about kind of theory of international relations and geopolitics.

 

And I think that conversation actually arose from talking about people criticising Hitler for being anti-Slav. And we were more or less expressing what we thought about that part of Mein Kampf where Hitler was concerned about the Slavs. I don’t know how to pronounce it, the “Slavification” of Austria, of what he considered Germanic territory.

 

And so that’s where those sound bites start. From memory again. I haven’t watched over that whole stream again, and I haven’t really watched that video in full. I just noticed that there was a very dishonest caption by that Uber Boyo, or whatever his name is.

 

[2:42:11]

 

Joel Davis: No, no, it wasn’t Uber Boyo. It was Uber Soy. Uber Boyo is a good guy. Uber Soy himself is a third jewish.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, well, I didn’t know he was jewish, and I must have got them confused, because I share that Uber Boyo all the time.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: I wasn’t sure why he was attacking me. Yeah, so we were talking about that, like, so you have to read Mein Kampf first and then read that, understand Hitler’s position, and then you can kind of understand that we were just expanding on our basic understanding of Hitler’s position.

 

So that’s number one. Number two is, I very specifically did not say “ethnic cleansing”. I very specifically did not say “genocide”. I’m pretty sure I use the term “breeding out”, which has been interpreted as some sort of ethnic cleansing, like the idea that Europeans breed out, or the Germanics breed out is ethnic cleansing of Slavs and meds. I don’t think that at all! And it was more the conversation we’re having, you have to have watched a previous episode where we were kind of expanding on a point that you mentioned maybe two or three episodes earlier, where we were talking about how no one is going to complain about millions of Swedish women entering their country. Like, no Australian is going to be like:

 

“Oh, Australia is getting too Nordic!”

 

Or like, no Greek dude is going to be like:

 

“Oh, my son is dating a Swedish girl!”

 

You know what I mean? That’s never happened in the history of humanity. That’s literally never happened. Like, so, [chuckling] like, no one’s ever like:

 

“Oh, damn it!”

 

Like, her hair is too light or something, or her eyes are too blue. That’s literally, like that’s just never happened in human history.

 

Now, I can say that objectively, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Except for black nationalists, you know, they’ll be calling that “bunny hopping”. So some non-Whites would say that, but Whites are, …

 

Joel Davis: We’re not talking about that.

 

Thomas Sewell: All right, all right. Yeah, but at least with White people, that’s never happened in human history. Like, I have never met anyone in my life complain that their partner is too Nordic featured or something. Like, I’ve just never had that experience. And there’s not really such thing as a “pure Slav”. Like a lot of Ukrainians are very Nordic looking. There’s a lot of Croatians that are very Nordic looking.

 

So there’s a lot of people taking this very personally, but it’s like, we’ve all got a fair amount of sort of Germanic blood in us, or that Nordic, whatever that Nordic ideal is with most Europeans have a bunch of it. I mean, there are some Europeans that don’t have much of it.

 

And so why would they be, … I noticed that a lot of Greeks and Italians weren’t really having a go at me online. It was mostly Slavics. Like, Polish people and stuff were complaining about it. But Polish people are very Nordic. Like, they’re not very Slavic, obviously, their language is Slavic, but they’re still a very Nordic nation in terms of at least their phenotype, which is an expression of their genes.

 

So what I’m talking about is Europe as a whole needs to breed out, and Europe as a whole needs to be more Nordicfied. And that’s just Nazism. That’s not like Thomas Sewell’s fringe version of Nazism. That is National Socialism. That’s Nazism. We want to create a greater, like an Ubermensch. We want to create a not just in morality, not just in ideology, but we physically want a race that’s genetically healthier, that’s genetically stronger, that’s genetically smarter, that’s genetically, like, we want to create this new “neo-man” in a sense, and not in that Russian sense, like what the Soviets did.

 

But in saying that, people took offence to it, in the sense that they were thinking about kind of jingoistic dynasties of, … All Europeans get really sensitive when you start talking about borders. Because, like the Poles are like:

 

“Oh, look how big the Polish Commonwealth is!”

 

Like, us Anglos. And especially because we’re in Australia, we’re even more divorced from it, we can really laugh at how Europeans all have a different version of the map of Europe. Like, every Croatian thinks that, like, Croatia is starts in Vienna and ends in, like [chuckling] Constantinople or something. And every Serbian has the same map, but maybe it, like, extends into France. And then every Polish person has a map of what Poland’s meant to look like. And it’s, basically from Athens to Stockholm, there’s a kind of, …

 

Joel Davis: Like a willpower, like a strength, like an assertion!

 

But then that’s obviously a problem. We don’t be fighting each other. So then the solution is, let’s take that energy and project it out of Europe and go conquer more territories.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

And so they all have this vision, and so they’re very sensitive where the border is drawn.

 

And then as a Germanic, I’m like, well, hang on a minute. Germanic should have a bigger chunk of the pie, but we’ll happily help fight for the frontier to be bigger. And they’re like:

 

“How fucking dare you? How fucking dare you draw that line differently to me!”

 

It’s well, I’m obviously going to draw that line differently to you. I’m a Germanic. But here’s the compromise. Like Greeks should have all of Turkey. I mean Turkey shouldn’t exist as a construct. So, like, you can be mad at me and say:

 

“Oh, Tom hates Meds!”

 

But I don’t. I want Greeks to have Turkey back. Like, the Anatolian peninsula should belong to Greece. And if Greeks become a little bit more White a little bit more Nordic, a little bit more blonde, a little bit more whatever, are they going to complain? Is that a bad thing?

 

[2:48:03]

 

Joel Davis: Oh, man, ancient Greeks sucked! You don’t want to be like them. [chuckling] Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: So and then Uber Soyo whatever’s like:

 

“Oh, he’s doubling down on his position!”

 

It’s like, of course I’m doubling down. It’s National Socialism. Like, I want Australia to be more Nordic. Like, if I was Greek, I would definitely want Greece to be more Nordic. Why is this a bad thing? But what it is with all these scandals, because, again, we have to kind of not justify ourselves, but we do have to address it, because there’s always a scandal every, like, couple months. It’s like Makeup gate, and now it’s like, “Slavgate” or something.

 

And it’s like, what was the previous one before Makeup gate? I’m sure there was some problem. But it’s like every time, it’s always people blowing something out of proportion, misinterpreting it on purpose, and then, in my opinion, it’s used. I don’t think Keith did this, but I think definitely that Uber Soyo did, like, 100%, because I’ve never had any negative interaction with him. I’ve only in the past, I didn’t know he was jewish, so I always, like, shared his stuff and promoted him.

 

But then a lot of people, they secretly despise you, and they wait for the moment of weakness. They’re like:

 

“Oh, look, he said something slightly incorrect! Or, look, he said something like that!”

 

Who’s that fuck with the what’s his name? Renegade or something. Renegy?

 

Anyway, that fuckwit. Yeah people like that, they wait. They’re just perpetual critics. They’ll wait for one thing to nitpick, and they’re like:

 

“See, I told you! He wants to put all White women in burkas!”

 

And then makes, like, constructs this massive straw man about how evil someone is that he’s fundamentally trying to compete with for clout, or whatever. But I don’t really care what Renegy’s ideology is. He’s kind of irrelevant now.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I can give my thoughts. The main problem here is that people have bought into the jewish narrative of National Socialism and the Second World War, and they believe that Hitler was genocidal against White Slavs, like the White Russians, the White Ukrainians, to a lesser degree they probably argued that he was genocidal against White Poles and all that, the Polish and all that.

 

But really what he would call “Lebensraum” and what we translate into “living space” is basically a reaction to Germany being overpopulated and all of Europe is practically overpopulated. And this was made worse by the fact that they had land taken away from them in the First World War. They had land in Germany itself taken away from them, given to neighbouring countries. France, Poland were the biggest beneficiaries of the land that was taken.

 

But not only this, they had their international colonies taken away. So they had their parts in the Pacific islands and parts of what is now Papua New Guinea. They had colonies in Africa, so they lost all this land. And Hitler thinks to himself:

 

“Well, how can the German nation continue to sustain itself and expand if we do not have land?”

 

So he looks to find a solution to this problem for the German nation.

 

Now, he doesn’t want to go back to colonies like the Anglo Saxons and the Irish [?] have done. We’ve reproduced our race to the one of the biggest, well, the biggest, probably group in the White race now by having colonies and having land through that way and expanding into non-White lands across the world. But he doesn’t want to do this. He doesn’t want to return to colonies because he doesn’t want to be in conflict with England, with the British Empire. He wants to have the British Empire as an ally, because he views them as fellow Germanics and fellow Aryans and he wants to be allied with them.

 

So his solution is to look east. So he wants land for Germans in the east.

 

Now, at the time that he’s written Mein Kampf, the Soviet Union had just had just come into existence.

 

Russia was an empire, a multiethnic empire, as it was then, but particularly then. And he knew this, everyone knew this, that the Bolsheviks were jewish, was a jewish movement, and that the Russian state had been captured by jews.

 

So his solution to overpopulation was to go east, to remove the jews from power and to populate Russia with Germans. And this is not a new idea. The Russian state traditionally had been large swathes of its elite had been German, the Royal Family had been German. So this is not a new idea. And if you know anything about World War Two history, you know there were a lot of Germans in Russia, you had the Volga Germans. And all these kind of things.

 

So this isn’t a new idea, it’s not a controversial idea. And think about Russia now. Russia has lots of land and it has lots of land that is occupied by non-Whites. And that is what Hitler’s idea was for getting land for the German nation to reproduce itself and to expand.

 

[2:54:09]

 

Now, Hitler was originally allied with Poland. He didn’t have hatred for Slavic Whites. People are so unreasonable and think that Hitler and the German National Socialists didn’t see White Russians and all of these people as White. They did see them as White. You can see historical documents where they have the nationality or Aryan-Ukrainian and things like that. So they recognised that there were Aryans in Russia. Not only the Germans, obviously, but you had lots of Nordic blood go there from the time of the Vikings. Russia has a lot of White blood there, a lot of pure Whites there. They were originally allied with them.

 

But then obviously, it moves to a new phase when the war starts and you have conflict between national groups. And what happens when there is war between groups? They demonise each other because they have to motivate the men in the armies to fight. We hold this unfair standard to the Germans that they must be demonised forever for their demonisation of groups that they were fighting, like the Polish, like the Russians, well, the Soviet Union in particular. But we’ll never hold that same standard to the Americans or the British, saying that the Germans bayoneted children, that they’re Huns, that they’re the enemies of civilisation.

 

And of course, going along with the atrocity propaganda of the Second World War, saying these gas chambers existed and that 6 million jews were killed and that all of these people were killed. It’s insanity! But these people still buy into this holocaust narrative, and they expand it to these Russians and these other Slavic groups.

 

But that was not the intention. The massive catastrophe that was the Second World War cannot be purely attributed to Hitler. Anyone that does that is insane! That’s not to say that the Germans didn’t do anything wrong. It was the largest war ever!

 

Of course the Germans did things wrong. There were war crimes committed. There was terrible suffering on all sides, particularly the Russian side, not only because it was a very serious war, but also because of how the Bolsheviks ran the war. They just did not care for civilians or even really their same soldiers, their, …

 

Joel Davis: They shot their own men for retreating.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yes.

 

So I think it’s just ridiculous! Like, this has been a kind of I should probably make a more detailed description of all these kind of things, but people need to deprogram themselves from the specifically jewish aspect of the Holocaust and all these kind of things, but they need to deprogram themselves from the so-called Slavic Holocaust or the Russian Holocaust and all these kind of things. It is just as erroneous as the lies about the jews, these people.

 

You think about Hitler and the German National Socialists, these people have the same views as we have today. They were reasonable people. But the historical circumstances they were in made them do things that were terrible. And that’s the same on every single side in the Second World War. We’re not going to say that, the Anglo Saxons or the Americans or the Australians you know, need to be demonised forever for what they did during the Second World War, which we did commit heinous crimes against Europeans. The firebombings, all kinds of things. The rape of Monte Casino, all these kind of crimes. But people need to get that out of their head.

 

I think that’s the linchpin that really is leading to this hatred of Thomas and Joel. They’re reasonable! I’m reasonable. We don’t have the view that Slavs need to be genocided. We love Slavs, because one thing that I particularly admire about Slavic people is their brutality and their ruthlessness and their seriousness. And we’re going to need them on our side during the race war. I’m telling you, we need Russians and we need Ukrainians.

 

And I agree with Thomas and Joel, if he agrees with it, that they need to breed out into the eastern part of Eurasia, and they need to conquer lands for our race. That’s what they need to do. And we should help them. It’s like what Henry Lawson, the poet, said. He said:

 

“It means all to young Australia – It means life or death for us, for the vanguard of the White man is the vanguard of the Russ.”

 

And he wrote that in the context of the Russian and Japanese war in 1905. But it remains true to us today. The Russians are the frontline nationality to the east of Europe. And we need to support the Russians, the White Russians. They need to take power of their state again, and they need to conquer new lands for the totality of our race, and we need to help them, as Joel said.

 

[3:00:03]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, like, we are opposed to the current regime ruling the Russian Federation, because it’s an anti-White regime. It represses the White Russian population from asserting itself, imposes an authoritarian multiculturalism, an authoritarian multiracialism, where the assertion of the interests of the Russian ethnic group in its specificity is literally illegal. And this is intolerable! But my view is not that we are anti-Russian, anti-Russian people. I want an alliance between all White nations, including Russia. And Russia is actually so necessary.

 

If Europe can find an alliance, obviously it’s not going to happen next week because as everyone knows, there’s a big geopolitical kind of fault line there. But if the relationship between, if White rule can be restored in Russia and in Europe and they can come together, together, they will be able to form a power bloc that would be unrivaled around the world. It’ll be stronger than the United States, it’ll be stronger than China, and it will be a incredible projection of White power! If that can be achieved. If you take all of the incredible resource wealth of the Russians and you combine that with the industrial capacity of the Germans and all of the collective economic wealth of Europe, … And we should be allied with them as well in the Anglo-sphere, obviously, I want all White nations to come together. If we could expand, if you expanded NATO to include Russia, it would be the most formidable alliance ever seen on this planet. And we could literally have our way with the world, and we could do incredible things for the White race. That’s the vision. And if everyone bought into that, it’d be better for everyone.

 

So that’s our view, and it’s a realistic and pragmatic view. It’s not a view we’re just saying, because we want you to like us. Like that actually just makes logical sense. That’s how you know you can trust it.

 

But when it comes to the Second World War, I have to say, like the Poles, and I love the Polish people. I went and I marched in the Polish Independence Day march last year. I had a great time. The Polish people are a great people. But this victimhood narrative, … The reality of the situation on the ground is that in the Second World War, they provoked the Germans.

 

The idea that the Germans came up with this idea of Lebensraum and then just attacked Poland because they just wanted their land, as if the Poles didn’t, like, provoke them. It’s just historically wrong. It’s just completely historically wrong! The Poles were literally asking for it. And refused to negotiate any reasonable terms with the Germans with respect to the German ethnic minorities and the issues with Danzig and so on, which was a mess that was created by the Treaty of Versailles, which itself was a mess after World War One. The Poles messed up in provoking the Germans. They basically asked for it. And when the war started, they got absolutely destroyed by the Germans.

 

And so it was really stupid! Why would you provoke Nazi Germany into invading you? That’s fucking dumb!

 

Okay, so it’s like when the Poles want to cry foul, it’s like, look at the history. Like, you guys basically asked for it. You guys tried to puff your chest out and assert yourself. You weren’t reasonable. Actually, the Germans did try and negotiate a way to kind of deal with the Poles that would have been reasonable. The Germans didn’t want to invade Poland because they knew that that could drag them into a war with Britain.

 

And as Jacob was saying, Hitler’s vision was for an alliance between the Germans and the British Empire, not just because we’re both Germanic peoples, but because the British Empire, … Hitler knew that his true enemies were the United States and the Soviet Union. And he knew that if he was going to resist these two emerging superpowers, he needed the British Empire on his side, because the British Empire would neutralise the United States. Because the British Empire had a global seafaring empire that could compete with American power, and so that would keep the Americans in check, so they could basically face off against the Soviet Union directly.

 

With what happened when they fought the Soviet Union after Operation Barbarossa was that they were already at war with Britain, and so they were suffering naval blockade, meaning they couldn’t get access, … And that was part of the reason why they invaded the Soviet Union, by the way, was to secure the oil fields in Eastern Europe because they didn’t have access to the global oil trade, because they were suffering naval blockade by the British. And the British had the best navy in the world at the time, and the British supported by the Americans, and that was a nightmare scenario.

 

Hitler did not want to push Britain into the arms of the United States and get himself navally blockaded and be forced to fight the Russians because that happened to the Germans in World War One, and they beat the Russians in World War One, and they still got crippled by the inability to break free of the naval blockade, and all the impacts that that had on the German economy and the capacity for the German war machine to maintain operability while being cut off from resource imports. So Hitler was fully aware of all of this stuff. It’s actually well documented.

 

So that shows that there wasn’t like this just genocidal intent:

 

“We’re just gonna go and take Poland!”

 

Like, there was obviously a lot of reservations, and it was a decision that was hard made. And you could argue that it was maybe an incorrect decision because of how everything went down. You could argue that, like, strategically speaking, I mean.

 

But the Poles provoked it. That’s what’s important to recognise. So then if you’re saying that that was a decision that caused the outcome of World War Two. What was the outcome of World War Two? The outcome of World War Two was that Poland got taken over by the fucking Soviet Union and became a communist country.

 

And then the rest of the Europe, all of Western Europe, went to the Americans, who then imposed this globalist, liberal, egalitarian ideology that is now genociding all of our races. Was that really worth it to just not give, like, Danzig back to the Germans? [chuckling] Like, and just get over it?

 

So I’m not saying that it’s all Poland’s fault. I mean, this. These things are very complicated.

 

[3:06:33]

 

But the point is that there’s some responsibility to go around. I don’t buy this single frankly, like, this one track victimhood where Germany and the war, and the Poles are just innocent. I mean, it’s ridiculous! That’s not how it works. And it doesn’t comport with historical record.

 

Now I’m saying that I love the Poles, and I’m not saying the Poles need to, … It’s great! Poland be Poland. I support Polish nationalism. I marched with the Poles on their national holiday of independence. Fantastic! I hope Poland stays White. I support Poland staying Polish.

 

But that’s nevertheless the case, and we have to kind of litigate these things and come to forgive. We need forgiveness between the European races for historical crimes. Like, the Germans kind of need to forgive us. We fucked them over, but now we need to come together. The Germans seem to be more forgiving towards us after the horrible crimes we committed against them, particularly in the Second World War, than the Poles are of the Germans. And I find that kind of ridiculous!

 

But anyway, [chuckling] we went off on a bit of a tangent with that!

 

Jacob Hersant: I’m gonna have to go to bed. I got work in the morning.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, all good, man.

 

Jacob Hersant: We can just go through the, …

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s a lot of Superchats. That’s, like, hundreds of dollars. Wow! And the Odysee ones as well. A lot of support tonight from the audience. That’s awesome to see the audience get [words unclear] A bit, they’re like, …

 

“Oh, give us the money!”

 

And always like, fuck! We’re doing all right.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, you can go, Tom. It’s all good.

 

Thomas Sewell: There was only one that was a silly one, that was about a guy saying he was 100% White, but not entirely English. And if he was still allowed, …

 

Joel Davis: No, he says he looks 100% White, and he’s mostly of English descent, but he has a small amount of non-European heritage. Well, it depends how small. We talking about 1%?

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, Jacob can answer that. The organisation has a constitution for blood laws. I have written out a document which is called the Modified Nuremberg Laws. And it’s just for our organisation, for general membership. We have a one drop policy for leadership, but our Org allows people of slight dilution. And just the amount of dilution that’s allowed is based off the type of dilution that it is. So, obviously, like, if it’s Caucasian, but if it’s non-European, Caucasian dilution, then it can be kind of a little bit heavier than, say, if it’s, like, African or Aboriginal dilution, then it can only be maximum 132, for example, for membership. So some people might say that’s cuckery. Yeah, I’m sure Jacob can go into how extreme he wants to deal with that long term. Or maybe not. Maybe it’s probably not a good idea. [chuckling] Yeah, like, we, I don’t want to create fucking mongrel front! You know what I mean?

 

Joel Davis: Like, My position is, I would like those laws as tight as possible. But I do understand.

 

Thomas Sewell: This is purely for this generation, that actually the laws tighten every generation. Like, it doubles its own strictness every generation.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I’m mixed race myself. I’m half Anglo, half Saxon! [loud laughing]

 

Thomas Sewell: Got him!

 

Jacob Hersant: Got him! An Anglo Saxon Whiteman.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Anyway, good night!

 

Jacob Hersant: Good night.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, we’ll go through the Superchats and, …

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, let’s go through it. Yeah, but that was from Adolf Caesar, by the way,. So no, no, it’s from Jack, 202530. So, like, listen, you didn’t specify, so we can’t give you an answer. If you want the actual objective answer, and you live in Australia, message the contact bot. Tell us, like, we want the exact, … Give us the details, and then we will get back to you.

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, he did send a lot of money, so I’ll give a bit of an explanation. So they talked about the cut-off. And it depends on what race it is, whether it’s very far away from us genetically or if it’s not so far away from us genetically. But we don’t hold it against anyone being born with admixture of non-Whites because it’s not something they chose, obviously. But because you are born with that, you have a responsibility if you adhere to National Socialism, not to perpetuate mixed blood, to perpetuate bad blood.

 

So there are all kinds of, all kinds of things that you can do to not perpetuate bad blood. And we’re going to have no problem with people that if they want to contribute to National Socialism, even though they have a little bit of admixture, we fully support that. But we can never support somebody perpetuating miscegenation. Blood sin. You need to find a way to either have racially pure kids, whether it be adopting children, or if you want to spend lots of money making sure that your sperm is your DNA tested and it’s 100% White.

 

Because obviously, if you have a little bit of admixture, because when you create a new sperm cell, or a new egg, you get a different shuffling of the genetics that you inherit from your father or your mother. You could have admixture, but some of your sperm will be completely racially pure. And same for women with eggs. Obviously, men have far more sperm than women have eggs, so it’s far more easier if you’re a male. The vast majority of people that are watching this would be male anyway.

 

[3:12:50]

 

So if you want to spend lots of money doing that’s a solution. If you’re very tied up with your ego and perpetuating your particular blood as an individual. If you have admixture, that is a way that you can do it. I talked to Joel about this in private, and he said that it’s not a natural way to do it. And I see that point of view. We probably won’t go too deep into it. But it’s your life fundamentally, the technology is out there. I’ve given you an option. If you want to perpetuate your blood in that way, it’s probably better, I’d say doing the IVF or doing something like that, and having a racially pure child, even though it’s an unnatural method, is probably better than you perpetuating blood sin, and having say, 4% Aboriginal kids, if you’re Australian or something like that it’s better to go the unnatural way and have racially pure children, because your children deserve that. If their dad or their mother is going to be a neo-Nazi, should you really perpetuate blood sin or should you provide a better genome for them? I’d say provide better blood for them.

 

But anyway, that’s a long answer, because you donated a lot of money, so that was a bit of a tangent, but that’s my position on it.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Let’s see here. RSA Liberty said:

 

“What was Sonnet’s physiognomy like?”

 

Sonnet being the magistrate.

 

Jacob Hersant: We showed a picture of him, but he just looked like a middle aged Whiteman. I won’t get into the personal. I wouldn’t personally say that he looks like a homosexual, although that was the conclusion that Joel and Thomas came to. But he just, to me, just he looked more regular than a lot of magistrates that I’ve come across. So I didn’t really think there was anything about his look that looked particularly questionable to me. These guys have different opinions.

 

Joel Davis: I don’t necessarily have the strongest of opinions. Like, I did get the vibe, but I don’t know, I just enjoy calling people faggots, if I’m honest. It’s a bit immature, but, …

 

Jacob Hersant: But I think the most unique thing about him was his mannerisms, which were definitely interesting, but I didn’t, …

 

Joel Davis: Strange individual.

 

Jacob Hersant: When I was watching it, I didn’t find it, like, bad. It was kind of endearing. I thought it was kind of, …

 

Joel Davis: I will say this, I was more pissed off with him after the way that he screwed around earlier in the day.

 

But then ultimately, in the end, he was actually quite fair and reasonable. And I don’t even hold it against him that he found you guilty, necessarily, because it’s not customary for the magistrate court to rule on, to strike down a new piece of legislation constitutionally. So to expect him to give that kind of judgement, I think it’s kind of unrealistic and it doesn’t ultimately matter, because it’s going to be appealed to a High Court, which will make a more decisive opinion.

 

So there’s no point really fixating upon him as an individual and his character, All that matters is onto the next court where they have higher responsibility. Like, it’s going to get to the Supreme Court one way or another, in my opinion. Even if it goes county court, I think it would end up getting appealed to the Supreme Court. I think it’s more likely than not that it will go to the High Court. And those are the just every court that it goes up, the decision becomes more important and the quality of the judge is supposed to be much higher.

 

So that is where it gets more decisive, and where we will put the judges under more scrutiny, and so on.

 

Jacob Hersant: He was very animated in his mannerisms, but I thought it was funny. Like, it was good. Yeah, it was unique, I guess I’d say.

 

Joel Davis: Skinhead Friend said:

 

“B and H.”

 

Jacob Hersant: Blood and honour,

 

Joel Davis: Southern Fried 33 said:

 

“Jacob, your impression of that rambling black behind you in the interview?”

 

Oh, yeah. I think you can see this on, if you go to The Noticer’s Twitter page or Telegram page. They published the full video of Jacob being interviewed yesterday by the media. And that was where the weird black guy in the background who threw a Roman salute actually in camera shot and was making noises.

 

Anyway, what do you think? What’s your thoughts?

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I didn’t, …

 

Joel Davis: Quite strange.

 

Jacob Hersant: I didn’t even know it was there the whole time. I do recall hearing someone say:

 

“Free speech is very important!”

 

I didn’t know it was a black guy. And, yeah, I had no idea. I was just mission focused, which was answer the questions and talk to the reporters, which were before me. But I asked the person that was filming for us, and that person was there before I got out there and was asking who all the media were there for. And they obviously answered the question to this black.

 

And then the black waited around. Obviously, I was getting filmed and I think he just showed up in the background and he just wanted attention for himself. He did give the Roman salute a few times. I don’t think anyone’s really going to care. I saw some people in the comments talking about it:

 

“Oh, he’s never gonna get charged for it!”

 

Well, yeah, the laws are weapons against White people. But then again, I don’t think anyone should be charged with this salute, so I don’t really want this black charged for it either.

 

[3:19:06]

 

Joel Davis: No, we want the law struck down.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, the law should be struck down.

 

But, yeah, it is very strange that there was just a black there making a nuisance of him himself. But my nigger fatigue can’t get any higher, so it is what it is. People can get fatigued by him in the comments, I think, on my behalf. [chuckling]

 

Joel Davis: Hello Comrade said:

 

“Just wondering if Joel got the dress code memo for the courthouse photo today. LOL. Appreciate you guys.”

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, well, we were wearing blue with a White shirt, and you had a different get up on, but I, …

 

Joel Davis: Had a very unique get up. Yeah, I was going for a bit of a different look this morning. I was in a mood to be unique, and that’s, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Although I thought it looked good. You’ve got a good sense of style.

 

Joel Davis: You know, I got a unique sense of style. Yeah.

 

Jacob Hersant: I think it’s good, though.

 

Joel Davis: I kind of go for that hipster racist, like, hipster bogan synthesis in my look. And some people say that:

 

“Oh, Joel, why aren’t you more clean cut?”

 

But it’s like that’s the thing. I’m more of a Dionysian element, or that’s a Dionysian element of my personality. Like, there is the Apollonian element in my personality. I can be very dry and systematic in how I talk.

 

Jacob Hersant: The Doctor Jekyll.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, but you need the Mr Hyde. I need to have a little bit of flavour and it’s important. I think it also makes me relatable to certain demographics, because we don’t want this idea that racists, … This gets back to the ice cream discussion about how we want all the different flavours of ice cream. No, we want to have hipster racists. We don’t want to just have, like, only one social type. We want to be a constellation of all the standard White guys that exists. All the main White archetypes. We want to have representations of all those archetypes together, because that’s what we represent is bringing those different White guy archetypes into a kind of band of merry men, you know, Lord of the Rings style, and yeah, that’s important.

 

AJ 28 supporter said:

 

“Great show, lads. Watching from the UK.”

 

We got a lot of love for our cousins over in Britain, and they got a lot of love for us. I think we probably get the most love total from America, because there’s so many Americans, but we get the most universal love, I think, from the British. The British, we have a very good relationship with them, and I think we can get away with some things that they can’t get away with in Britain.

 

And so they, I think, maybe especially enjoy our activities because, frankly, if we behave like we do here, there, we’d probably be in jail, so. [chuckling]

 

Jacob Hersant: And we embrace our Anglo Saxon racial identity far more than, say, the Canadians and the Americans do. So they appreciate that. But it’s awesome because the Anglo Saxon and the Irish race are awesome!

 

So, yeah, [chuckling] we love that aspect. That’s why we proudly wear the Union Jack. And we represent the Irish with the Union Jack as well, as much as that probably upsets some Irish Republicans, but there’s a part of the Union Jack that represents the Irish nation, and we take that as a symbol for our Irish heritage as well. I’m Irish, part Irish and part English and Scottish and all that. So we leave those old world hatreds between European ethnic groups behind. We just only have love for our kin in Ireland and in Britain.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. And you might not like it if you’re Irish, but the fact is the Union Jack is a St. George’s cross representing the English people, a St. Andrew’s cross representing the Scottish people, and the St. Patrick’s cross representing the Irish people. I don’t understand, if you’re Irish, why you wouldn’t like the notion of a St. Patrick’s cross. I mean, it’s your patron saint, so it’s actually a good thing. It does represent, like, maybe to them the imposition of British imperialism, but we don’t see it in that way so much. We do see it in that way, of course. It’s like the imposition of British imperialism made Australia, and that’s awesome! But we see it also as the unity of our peoples, which is what the Australian people are. There aren’t pure Irish-Australians and many pure Anglo Australians. I mean, there’s some. But most Australians will have a little bit of both. And actually, most people in Britain and Ireland have a bit of each other, in each other as well. We’re very closely related ethnic groups anyway. I understand the history is very tumultuous and complicated, particularly the Northern Ireland island thing, but, …

 

Jacob Hersant: And historical crimes against the Irish nation.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah, we acknowledge that.

 

Jacob Hersant: All those things. And we acknowledge those grievances, of course.

 

[3:24:28]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. But our view is that Australia is an example that shows that if you dump the Irish and the English and the Scottish all in one country together and give them a few generations to forget their old world differences, they just fuse into One Nation and find a unity with one another.

 

So that shows that it isn’t necessary for our peoples to be enemies. That we can all get along. There’s a bit of wholesome chungus, European, inter-European, wholesome chungus on the show. Mungo Au said:

 

“Great show. You guys are the only group in Australia sticking to your principles and beliefs, regardless of external factors. Can’t see a future where the NSN does not grow from here.”

 

Well, yeah, well, we’ve never been growing this quickly. We’re in a good moment in the history, there’s been a lot of particularly the early years before I got involved, there was a lot of challenges.

 

And obviously Tom getting thrown in jail and you being basically put on a non-Association order where you couldn’t talk to anyone in the organisation for two years, really hampered things. But everything, it’s a very positive energy right now. Everywhere it’s growing. We’re growing all over the country and it’s very simple to get involved.

 

Getting involved doesn’t mean that you have to put on black block and do street marches, necessarily. Getting involved, it’s just a simple as reaching out, getting vetted, and coming down to some training sessions on weekend training sessions with the boys. We do training through the week as well, but that’s optional. Come down, train some kickboxing. We’re back into more kickboxing and boxing now and running, whereas in the wintertime, we’re doing more lifting. But come down and train and find community, find White nationalist community. And what you want to do with activism from there is optional.

 

Jacob Hersant: But yeah, obviously we had the hardship at the start of the NSN organisation and the EAM and all that, we had that hardship. But that hardship only builds your strength. Persecution, if you survive it can only make you stronger, as Nietzsche said:

 

“What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.”

 

And we gained so much spiritual strength through those struggles, and we survived it. Thomas is still here, I’m still here. And we faced all those struggles and we didn’t break. And that will carry over to the movement.

 

Now that we have all these new people growing, these people can lend you know they can lean upon us and our strengthen when it comes to all the struggles that we are inevitably going to face as National Socialists in this political struggle. We see organisations that don’t have this staying power and this veterancy in the movement, they can be toppled by getting doxxed, or they can be toppled by getting a visit from the police and things like that. As we can see where I’m still getting hammered, I’m being imprisoned for a gesture, but I’m still here espousing National Socialism

 

I’ve been on non-Association orders for two to three years. Just been on my lonesome. That’s why I don’t mind being by myself at court, because I’ve been there a few times and I’ve learnt to be comfortable alone. But I’m still here. I’m still fighting. I’m still a militant Whiteman.

 

Thomas faced seven months in solitary confinement. How many White men have the strength to do that and then still come back and be like:

 

“It’s time for us to fight for the White race. Hail Hitler!”

 

And that’s why everyone should have a respect for Thomas and what he suffered through. And they should have the modesty to accept that he has something to give us in regards to his strength, the internal strength that he had to suffer through all that and to carry on. We should have absolute respect for people that have overcome these harsh trials.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Anglo Celts said:

 

“You boys showed honour today. You showed respect and pride for Australia to see today. Its commitment to values of men that change times. You kept morale and strength very inspiring for the scene.”

 

Well, yeah, you have to show defiance and moral fortitude. Like, we are in the Right here. This is our fucking country! And these are our rights, our ancient rights that they are trying to take away from us, that these parasitical jews that have infiltrated our political process and subverted it. And all these traitors and prostitutes in the media that go along with their narratives are just scum! And yeah, we’ve got absolutely nothing to be ashamed of! In fact, it’s an honour to be chosen by fate to be people are standing up for our people. And Jacob was not really afraid of going to prison. He’s not afraid of going to prison if that’s what’s necessary, because on principle, if that’s necessary to fight this properly, like, …

 

And as the struggle goes on, I’m sure there’ll be many challenges thrown up by the enemy. And we will have to pay costs.

 

And the reason why I’m putting my face out there and standing forward and why Jacob is and our other colleagues is because we don’t mind paying those costs. Because the alternative is what? That we don’t fight back? That we completely lose our dignity? We become enslaved as a race.

 

I mean, that’s just intolerable! I choose death over slavery!

 

Adolf Caesar said:

 

“Evening, gentlemen. Can you lay out some key similarities, differences in the political landscape that the NSDAP encountered to the landscape we are encountering today?”

 

And then he said:

 

“Hashtag free Hersant.”

 

With a Roman salute.

 

Jacob Hersant: Hersant is free as of yet.

 

Joel Davis: We believe that he was going to win, ultimately.

 

So, yeah, but answer that question. That’s a question for you, I think.

 

[3:31:09]

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, I can answer that.

 

But just to say I am free, and the media was saying, I’m going to be jailed in a month’s time. Well, I will be taken into custody, but then I’ll be immediately bailed by my lawyer.

 

So I’m not going to be going to prison anytime soon. I do appreciate just saying free Hersant, because it still means free me from these ridiculous charges and these ridiculous convictions. So I appreciate that message.

 

To answer your question:

 

“What are key similarities and differences in the landscape that Hitler faced in the landscape that we’re in?”

 

Well, the main difference is the difference in demographics. Germany was still German at the time that Hitler was gaining power. There were jews there. Yes, of course. And they had far more jews proportionally than we have, particularly here in Australia. It’s probably about a comparable amount compared to the United States now. They’ve got 2% jewish.

 

Joel Davis: They’ve got more than 2% It’s officially 3%, and many speculate that it’s actually higher.

 

Jacob Hersant: Okay. And I don’t know, actually, the specific demographic of jews in Germany during that time, I’d speculate it’d probably be about around the same, nonetheless.

 

So they had only really jews as a significant ethnic minority. So they were dealing with that particular problem. We are facing a problem of having jewish rule over our country, just like they had jewish rule. But we’ve had many decades of the jews, through their positions of power, bringing in millions of non-Whites into all the main White countries. Russia, Sweden, Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Ireland, now United States, Australia, New Zealand.

 

So that’s the main difference. In terms of the actual politics. Back then, communism, or at least economic communism, economic Marxism was a far bigger force in Germany than it is today. We still have a lot of communist ideas that rule over, that have captured a lot of elites here in Australia, but it’s not really hard economic Marxism.

 

Joel Davis: It’s ethnic class warfare.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: After World War Two, they adapted to race warfare and other, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Sexual identity warfare, all these kind of things.

 

So that’s another difference, insofar as we’re fighting what you call cultural Marxism instead of economic Marxism. They were fighting cultural Marxism as well, but it was more just Judaism. But they were fighting economic communism as well, because they had the KPD, the Communist Party of Germany, Communist Deutschlands, and they had the Social Democrats, which were bickering with the communists. But, …

 

Joel Davis: It’s like Labour and the Greens.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: A crude analogy.

 

Jacob Hersant: But the Nazis also had other kind of nationalistic or quasi fascistic parties that also had a lot of power. You got to remember Germany is a far more militant country than Anglo Saxons are, I think. Who said that? The Germans are military with the state?

 

Joel Davis: That was Prussia.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, but they are far more militaristic in their thinking. They think far more socialistically insofar as, …

 

Joel Davis: They’re a land power.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, they’re land power. They put the group before individualism and all these kind of things. While we have a different kind of conception of ourselves, we’re more as people that are descended from the Anglo Saxon tradition. We value individualism and things like that more.

 

But also, particularly, not only are the Germans more culturally like that, more socialistic, militaristic, but they also came out from the largest war of that time, the Great War, the First World War. They had had millions of their men killed. They had millions of ex-servicemen, people that had starved throughout the war. They had this disgusting treaty imposed on them that had humiliations like the Rhineland, niggers that were brought in. All these kind of problems that they had, which were making German people very uncomfortable.

 

We are dying from comfort! Because, well, things are becoming less comfortable now, and we’re going to see political success because of that. But in previous decades in Australia and America, we were dying of comfort. That’s all you’ll see these National Socialists and White nationalists complain about is complacency and apathy because of material comfort. And we’re still far more comfortable. We don’t have hyperinflation. We’re not starving, we’re not having large chunks of land taken away from us. We’re not being blamed for all the world’s problems and causing the biggest war in history.

 

Nonetheless, we are still facing anti-White hatred. Serious anti-White hatred. The conditions are getting worse now, but they’re going to have to get worse. Those are probably the biggest similarities and differences. There would be a whole lot of nuance and detail I could go into, but I’ll try to keep it somewhat succinct.

 

[3:37:41]

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. Fellow Comrade also sent another group chat about asking about the black guy, and we already answered that, so they were not point answering it again.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: Now let’s look on the Odysee. Mike Lindell’s crack pipe. [chuckling] That’s funny. He said:

 

“A little bit of support from the States. Keep up with the good fight!”

 

Did you see the Mypillow guy? Did you say that he was selling pillows for $14.88, and then it caused this big controversy? Like, why is he doing that? And he’s like:

 

“They said I was a Nazi or something, but no, I’m not! Anyway, the pillows are staying the same price, $14.88!”

 

And he’s still selling them. And all these American, like, NatSocs are like:

 

“I’m buying so many Mypillows! This is fucking sick!”

 

So I don’t know if that was the greatest marketing strategy of all time or an accident, but either way, it’s hilarious! No Live said:

 

“Full support, Sar.”

 

So I guess that’s like, Jeet reference. Psycho Driller Two said:

 

“Thank you for being a great example to the rest of us.”

 

And he threw a Roman iconographically, so that’s nice. Operation Werewolf said:

 

“Nice coat Joel.”

 

Jacob Hersant: You gotta show him the patch on it because that’s the exact same logo.

 

Joel Davis: It’s subtle.

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah, Operation Werewolf. [laughing]

 

Joel Davis: GoyBoy1488 said:

 

“Jacob is a respectable man and a beast!”

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, I’m a Doctor Jekyll, and I’m a Mr Hyde at the same time, according to the magistrate. So he would agree with you GoyBoy.

 

Joel Davis: Annie Waffen said:

 

“We fight the good fight every day. The enemy will never admit it, but we are winning.”

 

That’s a good attitude to have. Psycho Driller Two said:

 

“Jacob, did you see the nigger throwing Roman salutes behind you when you were being interviewed outside the court after the verdict?”

 

Jacob Hersant: Well, yes, I did.

 

Joel Davis: Done that already. Chain Reaction said:

 

“Fun facts. Number one, Slovakia immediately joined the Reich and were welcomed with open arms. Sent more jews to camps than Germany. Number two. To this day, some Slovenian towns celebrated Hitler’s birthday because he left SS troops behind to defend the women and children from mass raping jew-led Bolsheviks.”

 

Yeah, that’s the thing. Like, the whole Hitler hated Slavs thing, it also runs up against the reality of Hitler allied with, like so many fucking Slav countries, and the Germans fought to protect them from the Bolsheviks, and they willingly allied with Hitler and the Germans. So that also blows the narrative to pieces.

 

Jacob Hersant: That’s one of the fronts that held strong the longest was the Hungarian-German front. So they fought valiantly to protect all Europeans that were honourable and fighting on their side.

 

So the Slav thing is a lie!

 

But yeah, we talked enough about that.

 

Joel Davis: Yeah. JQR Code said:

 

“Godspeed, Aussie Bros. We will have our home again.”

 

He threw another iconographic Roman, which is like, you know what I mean by that is like you just put an O and then a slash [O/] . Thank you. Good energy. Speaking of energy, High Energy Nationalist, friend of the show, he said:

 

“Thank you for all your efforts, Jacob, Tom, Blair and Joel, you are the only Australian nationalist worth listening to. O7. God bless!”

 

Well, thank you. That’s very kind of you. Ascenda Slayer said:

 

“It takes a lot of courage to do what you’re doing, Jacob. Marching into the unknown with a pre-packed prison bag with zero fear. Boss move, brother. Also great to see everyone uniting around you. Godspeed.”

 

The Gump says:

 

“Here’s the minimum subscription fee for the rise of White power. Salute to Jacob for standing calm when the media hyenas tried to offend him.”

 

Z Tag said:

 

“Thank you.”

 

Keenan Wits said:

 

“Can you give a brief history of nationalist efforts to incite revolution? What worked and what didn’t, how to influence local groups, how we could adopt these lessons moving forward?”

 

That’s like a whole show, man!

 

Jacob Hersant: Yeah.

 

Joel Davis: You know, like you’re asking, …

 

Jacob Hersant: Maybe we should make a show on that, though.

 

Joel Davis: Look, how about this? Like, we’re not going to do that right now because it’s going to require, … We’ve been going over 3 hours here. But we will come back to this topic in the future. I guarantee you that. MLG said:

 

“London follow up. Wish we had a movement like the NSN over here.”

 

Yeah, well, you know, godspeed to English patriots, and we will support you guys in whatever you do, 100% one struggle.

 

But as I said earlier maybe doing it exactly the way that we do it, with land you in prison there. The prison state in Britain is next level. I think there needs to be adaptation of tactics to the situation on the ground. That doesn’t mean that no one can organise. There are people organising. There are many great English nationalists doing great work! There are active clubs. I don’t know them too well, but I’ve seen, seen them online and some of the guys in the Org here know them through chatting online. You know, Steve Laws is doing a lot, like for public facing activism.

 

A Patriotic Alternative led by Mark Collett is doing public facing activism. And there’s other groups as well. So there’s the Homeland Party trying to do the whole optical nationalism to win votes thing. There’s multiple different projects going in English nationalism. It’s not a completely dead scene.

 

And so I wouldn’t just encourage everyone to work together, try to put aside intercine rivalries, try and as best you can, be a unified front and have each other’s back as White nationalists, because the most valuable thing you have in this world is your people. And that’s the only thing that’s going to save us is loyalty to one another.

 

But, yeah, that’s basically it.

 

So it was a good show. Hope you guys enjoyed it. And, yeah, we’ll see you next week. You got some Jacob content this week, so I hope you enjoyed that. And obviously an apt day for it.

 

I will do another stream at some point later in the week, so I don’t know exactly what yet. I’ll announce it later. But in the meantime, White power and, yeah, you want the final word?

 

Jacob Hersant: Hail Hitler! Australia for the White man!

 

 

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AnnieWaffen
7 hours ago
I’ve spent time in Australia and came across a bunch of Italians playing Bocci. Couldn’t believe mine eyes!

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Contiarchive
4 hours ago
What’s bocci?
Is some kind of game or Music?

Wesselmania
1 hour ago
US leadership is mostly soy burgers.
Why can’t this chad quartet be American?

Archipelago Woes
1 hour ago
Look forward to the show. Cheers from US. o/

Dawn Browning
7 hours ago
🏆🏆WTG🏆🏆

AnnieWaffen
7 hours ago
o/

DOLO
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o/

@WhiteWalker
7 hours ago
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danzimmons
7 hours ago
thx 🙏🏻

ChainReaction
7 hours ago
Heil all o/

@WhiteZealot
7 hours ago
o/

Lon Awfully
7 hours ago
though im in America, i appreciate all the hard work and you guys ALWAYS have answers and activity

Rhodie1
7 hours ago

@IAMNOTPOLITICALLYCORRECT
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AnnieWaffen
7 hours ago
🙂

PsychodriIIa#2
7 hours ago

@OthalaIndustries
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ChainReaction
7 hours ago
lol

Rhodie1
7 hours ago
sgt o7

AnnieWaffen
7 hours ago

@ChainReaction
You should know! :woodoo_doll:

@WhiteWalker
7 hours ago
Screw 7-11 Open a 14-88 store.

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7 hours ago

@ani
oof, ur one of those dangerous girls… .. .

AnnieWaffen
7 hours ago

@ChainReaction
And Sambuca of course! :laughing:

ChainReaction
7 hours ago

@ani
and the rest of us still play Lawn Bowls, great fun… …hammered with beer of course…

AnnieWaffen
7 hours ago

@WhiteWalker
Once one realizes we are already dead (in this tryranny) and fears not death, ‘the struggle’ becomes easier. o/

@WhiteWalker
7 hours ago
Death is easy, living to fight another days is the struggle.

Vettekid1488
7 hours ago
he’s a badass 🙋‍♂️

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7 hours ago
what doesn’t kill you …

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DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
7 hours ago
goodnight lads

AnnieWaffen
7 hours ago
^^^ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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@ani
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Ethno Nationalist
7 hours ago
Race First 1488 o/

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
7 hours ago
goodnight fren

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
7 hours ago
hapy to talk to you about it later

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
7 hours ago

@ani
lol yer gab does that… its normal LOL

AnnieWaffen
7 hours ago
^^^ o/

JQRcode
7 hours ago
$5.00
Godspeed Aussie bros. We will have our home again! o/

Ethno Nationalist
7 hours ago
o/

AnnieWaffen
7 hours ago
Done. For some reason Gab was malfunctioning :grimacing:

@DanTheOracle

Vettekid1488
7 hours ago

@WhiteWalker
ok man..that’s enough .. I just choked on my chocolate milk 🥛 🤮

@WhiteWalker
7 hours ago
They banned calling cars ‘Uranus’ because getting rear ended was anti-Semitic. Mercury & Saturn was used instead.

Vettekid1488
7 hours ago
I like Pink ties 👔

eternal extrapolations
7 hours ago
These Australian guys are well spoken and sensible and a great example to all. They do their nation proud.

@fantastic_journey
7 hours ago
hipster racist lol

eternal extrapolations
7 hours ago
Nigger Lethargy 😅

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
7 hours ago
tired

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
7 hours ago
fucking almost midnite here…

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ani
we have dm’d before about political stuff

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ani
check your dm;s not your notifs

DOLO
8 hours ago

@WhiteWalker
The probability probably sky rockets at that stage.

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
Hmmm.. I don’t see it in my notificatons. Please resend. Thx Dan

@DanTheOracle

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago
its all common knowledge when you stop listening to the jews about it

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
called my car a faggit when it died in traffic last week

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
If you travel to Tel Aviv for anal reconstruction, you might be a faggot.

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago
i can simply give you the resources to prove it

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ani
i sent you a dm on gab… im kinda an expert on this stuff as ive been following it for over a decade

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago

@DanTheOracle
Hmmm. This is why I state “has come into question.” Everything requires hours of research to get to the truth. Next few months should prove interesting for him with war in Mideast and elections. (Save the religious debate for another day.) o/

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
the birds and the bees – Jacob edition

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
Spay & Neuter Services available.

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
‘sins of the father’

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ani
no it never has been. not at all. his mother is buried under a russian orthodox christian cross… and i mean if you wana argue with me that christianity is jewish im more than able too… but putins family was a farming pesant

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago

@DanTheOracle
I did not know that. But just recently Putin’s lineage has come into question.

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
attack Germany over Poland… …give it to Stalin…

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ani
russia is the only country in europe who pays you to deny the holocaust…..

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
Most may have been jews instigating as they always do

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ani
you know russia is not only the most anit-jewish country in europe… as most post communist countries are… but they are the only ones actively fighting both marxism and the jews?

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
agreed

@DanTheOracle
Slavs say “srat’ NATO” aka shit on NATO

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
Bolsheviks^^^

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago

@DanTheOracle
It matters not; show me the man and…………

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago
god its too late to deal with this here lol. joel is so wrong… expand the judeo-empire of nato to include russia? really?

PsychodriIIa#2
8 hours ago
Outside Court yesterday after jacob was found guilty this nigger was behind him.
Less

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
$3.01
fun facts: 1. Slovakia immediately joined the Reich n were welcomed with open arms, sent more jews to camps than Germany… 2. to this day some Slovenian towns celebrate Hitler’s birthday cos he left SS troops behind to defend the women n children from mass-raping jew-lead Bolsheviks

PsychodriIIa#2
8 hours ago
$5.00
Jacob Did you see the Nigger throwing roman salutes behind you when ypu were being Interviewed outside court after the Verdict?

DOLO
8 hours ago
Stalin sent a million Russian troops to the gulag, after they were released, for being captured by the Germans.

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
Germans did nothing wrong o/

ChainReaction
8 hours ago

@IAMNOTPOLITICALLYCORRECT
no, n u didn’t miss much when u came in, just Hersant’s court stuff

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ani
if you see the vid of jacob he didnt even throw a roman… his arm wasnt even above level

PsychodriIIa#2
8 hours ago
When jacob was being interviewd

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
Dan IS the man 🙋‍♂️

PsychodriIIa#2
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
I missed the begining of the stream . Did they talk about the nigger throwing romans outside court yesterday?

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
This is gold

@DanTheOracle
o///

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
I did not know that

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
How do jews separate the men from the boys…. With a crow bar. :drum:

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago
Less

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
As well he should

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
every time Hersant speaks i just hear that

@Kill_Your_TV
song in the background…

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
tiny hat tribe

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
tiny hats

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@vettekid407
henlo fren

ChainReaction
8 hours ago

@DanTheOracle
saved, cheers mate o/

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
Free exploding small hats, now available in the grift shop.

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
Hitler hated Slavs so much that he welcomed Slovakia into the Reich immediately lol

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago
around the 40-50 second point i believe is the admiitance from the jew media that the austrian people wanted it… just the jewish backed government didnt

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
Dan the Man 🙋‍♂️

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
Austrian Crisis – 1938 – Movietone News.
Austrian Crisis – 1938 – Movietone News.
DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻: Austrian Crisis – 1938 – Movietone News.
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Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
imagine being born a nigger or kike smh 😏

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
that isnt actually true.. i have a news real from 1938 where the kike media claimed that… but it was obvious the people didnt believe it

ChainReaction
8 hours ago

@ani
jajaja i know, details n semantics, but i grew up in central Europe so for me it’s a point, but i know it potatoe / potato for most

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
I said to this guy,’ I’m sorry you were born a nigger’ he said it’s OK I’m improving, I was born a filthy jew.

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
LOOOL ive watched so much german ww2 footage and im sure most of those retards would think 99% of germans in ww2 were jews……. including hitler and the SS

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
There ARE major diffences. Only an expert can know for sure :laughing:

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago

@vettekid407
The cat has better manners. At least they try to bury it!

ChainReaction
8 hours ago

@DanTheOracle
exactly, should be common sense

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
Remember to have fun, enjoy the fight, it seriously pisses them off.

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago

@WhiteWalker
men and boys dropping turds on the beach in the sand like a cat 😺 lol 😂

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
yea linder had a piece about that i clipped… but once we win this we can just choose who we wish to collectivise around

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
Slovakia IMMEDIATELY joined the Reich n were welcomed with OPEN ARMS, so much for Hitler’s ‘hatred’ of all Slavs

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago

@WhiteWalker
saw a documentary about the lack of toilets 🚽 in India few years back hahaha 🤣 shit was funny

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago

@BASEDVLAD
and rightfully so

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago
hitler wasnt anti-slav… he was anti-bulshevik and was a liberater of the slavic people

ChainReaction
8 hours ago

@DanTheOracle
yeah, Aryan is Aryan to me, once we save our race, then everyone can squabble n purity spiral, idgf

@wodanmystery
8 hours ago
I learned that the blonde blue eye ideal is just the original European. anything after like brown and black and brown eyes is an admixture which is fine but we must still retain the ideal because that is the essential European type

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
I am NOT a heeb 👃DAMMIT !!! 😡

ChainReaction
8 hours ago

@DanTheOracle
jajaja, fair point, but the Polish ppl were always anti-German which didn’t help, Czechs too

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago
in 1933…

ChainReaction
8 hours ago

@vettekid407
fools mistake a Roman nose for a heeb nose, pisses me off

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
im not sure they were “polish” and not (((polish)))

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago

@vettekid407
Me too! Wear it with Roman honor. o/

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
Polish always cause strife to this day… cough cough 1930’s cough

DOLO
8 hours ago
King Rurik

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
I’ve got a large Roman nose 👃 people mistake me for a heeb 😭

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
29.95 + shitting and handling

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ani
o/

BASEDVLAD
8 hours ago
“If I had but one bullet and were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it.”
— Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, For My Legionaries

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago

@WhiteWalker
sweet 👍

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
Hey Dan Evenin’ and o/

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ChainReaction
the slavs from my understanding… were some nords who moved down to “russia” and built the country. very based

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago

@vettekid407
an entire roll

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago

@WhiteWalker
do they include a plastic bag 💩??

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
8 hours ago

@ani
henlo fren

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
In Canada on the jew tube they say diversity is our strength and the commercials are selling Pajeet pooper scuppers.

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago

@sparkofspirit
Truly horrible what these demons project on screen. And mostly the youth attend these movies. :rage:

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
i’m a Germanic / Slavic mix… …Joel deffo gassing my arse as an abomination…

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago

@sparkofspirit
yes 👍 hot 🔥 man on man action

@sparkofspirit
8 hours ago
they raped the joker in the movie? glad i don’t watch movies anymore

ChainReaction
8 hours ago
hey! i’m handy-CAPABLE…

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
Inglorious Bastards was a PRE CIA disgusting jew porn.

PsychodriIIa#2
8 hours ago

@ani
o/o/o///

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
o/

@IAMNOTPOLITICALLYCORRECT

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
I wanna purchase a pair of Doc martens 🥾 put red laces in them

PsychodriIIa#2
8 hours ago
More

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
Banning cosmetic surgery is anti-Semitic.

curonian
8 hours ago
One of the founders of SS was half Jewish…

PsychodriIIa#2
8 hours ago
Halloween is Coming up. The Best Costume You can wear Is The SS Uniform When you take Your Kids Trick Or Treating.

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
sheboon 🐒

@MikeLindelscrackpipe
8 hours ago
AussieWaffen

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
With a sheebon as the main character! What sane person thinks of these things!? ‘Concord’ was the game. Oh what a cute play on words. :roll_eyes:

Saint Amalek
8 hours ago
Yeah boi!!

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
there is some group in Israel that embrace the Nazi aesthetic

PsychodriIIa#2
8 hours ago
More

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
makes me wanna go get fitted for a Hugo Boss suit 🙋‍♂️

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
image is everything 🙋‍♂️

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
gay 🏳️‍🌈 vidya game

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
Correction: A gay video game.

Vettekid1488
8 hours ago
I’m so sorry I threw that Roman 😭

@WhiteWalker
8 hours ago
Name your business Nazi pest control, you will never be investigated

AnnieWaffen
8 hours ago
They lost 200 million on a video game! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
it’s innate mate 👍

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
lol Thomas

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
good evening Milady

@ani
o/

AnnieWaffen
9 hours ago
Evenin’ Chain

PsychodriIIa#2
9 hours ago
I want to look as Racist & Threatening as Possible.

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago

@No-Lives_Matter
geez…that’s kinda harsh mate smh 😏

No-Lives
9 hours ago
Anyone who runs up to a ZOG tank with an IED has my respect. The ones here though… They can go fuck themselves yesterday.

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
^

AnnieWaffen
9 hours ago
$25.00
We fight the good fight every day. The enemy will never admit it but We Are Winning!

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
I told him on Instagram what I thought of him 😡

@lewpers
9 hours ago

@vettekid407
if he isn’t then he works for one

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
he’s a race traitor

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago

@lewpers
he’s not a kike

@lewpers
9 hours ago

@vettekid407
jews aren’t White

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago

@WhiteWalker
I’m directly in its path 😭

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
some white man in Netherland is assisting Muslims get a foothold in his city despicable smh 😏

@WhiteWalker
9 hours ago
Hurricane in Florida, the entire government has formed a circle jerk to ask will israel be OK.

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
good point^

PsychodriIIa#2
9 hours ago
At this point. there are more palestinains in White countries than jews in Occupied p[alestine. The Palestinian men are the definition of Cowards if the are not Heading to Palestine to take their country back.

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
cannot be trusted

@katana17
9 hours ago
Joel Davis – Activist Reflections with Jacob Hersant – Aug 18, 2024 – Transcript

Joel Davis – Activist Reflections with Jacob Hersant – Aug 18, 2024 – Transcript

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
9 hours ago
^

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
all nons are our enemies

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
YES, thank u, get off the palestinian bandwagon, serves as NOTHING other than a distraction

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
I hate nons so fucking much …selfish opportunistic scum .. they have regard for us .. they come to benefit from what our ancestors built.. they’re thieves

Low_Born
9 hours ago
We Fight, or We Die. Sums it up and cuts the bullshit.

@Alison-Chains
9 hours ago

@lewpers
is he still being drug through the court system?

@WhiteWalker
9 hours ago
BREAKING NEWS: Snap, Crackle and Pop have been arrested for cultural appropriation.

Low_Born
9 hours ago
o/

@Alison-Chains
9 hours ago
brainwashed by jew media and Hollywood

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
black-pill blues

@Alison-Chains
9 hours ago
winning strategy

Goose Steppenwolf
9 hours ago
channel the Vril !

PsychodriIIa#2
9 hours ago
First there was Mussolini. I think He needs more respect.

@WhiteWalker
9 hours ago
Warning was in the fine print,. Don’t teach the farm equipment how to speak.

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
testicular fortitude 🙋‍♂️

@lewpers
9 hours ago
What is the best way to support Hersant? We must reward those who with the biggest balls, lads.

@WhiteWalker
9 hours ago
Farm equipment salesman are getting arrested in Canada for racism.

Goose Steppenwolf
9 hours ago
Vril saves Aryans. period.

Goose Steppenwolf
9 hours ago
Vril>victim

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
celebrate 🥳 weakness

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
9 hours ago
Less

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
used to watch white dudes in Philippines… congratulations 🎉 dumbass you made a child that doesn’t resemble you smh 😏

@WhiteWalker
9 hours ago
So….. they did a DNA test and it turns out that Jack the ripper was a jew, shocking! Not!

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
Whites humping Whites 🙋‍♂️

Lon Awfully
9 hours ago
i believe most whites are natsoc if they knew the truth

PsychodriIIa#2
9 hours ago
Be The Friendly NAZI you need to see in your Town White Men.

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
Nazis or pedophiles 🙋‍♂️

@CampsLindburgh
9 hours ago
dumped “Endeavor’s” account this morning for criticizing Jacob

danzimmons
9 hours ago
yeah

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago

@danzimmons
seems like a rational response 👍

danzimmons
9 hours ago
if nato supplies Ukraine with missiles to strike Russia

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago

@danzimmons
???? 😲

danzimmons
9 hours ago
too strike israel

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
old fashioned vanilla 😋

danzimmons
9 hours ago
Pootin’s going to supply Houthi’s with s400’s

@CampsLindburgh
9 hours ago
homestyle vanilla o/

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
your ancestors are proud of you lad 🙋‍♂️

Ethno Nationalist
9 hours ago
vanilla o/

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
vanilla is the best … accepts enhancements like fresh strawberries 🍓

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
Jacob Hersant = Rocky Road

danzimmons
9 hours ago
we’re Vanilla with sprinkles on top

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
nah, they hate their own race cos they know they the losers of the Aryan race n that upsets them

@WhiteWalker
9 hours ago
When I grow up I want to be a Houthi rocket launcher.

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
9 hours ago
trumpet

The Pork Report
9 hours ago
Agree, Tom, it’s envy

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
9 hours ago
You can’t beat a mint magic trumpt

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
I love reading the comments under the videos …very encouraging

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
LOL

@IAMNOTPOLITICALLYCORRECT
classic o/

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
they realize the Streisand effect now – they know for every vid they take down 6000000 will replace it

PsychodriIIa#2
9 hours ago
More

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
I’m surprised youtube is allowing those speech vids to exist

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
and because of it ALL spheres n groups waking up n mentioning Uncle A

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
and Jimmy Kimmel was married to that beast …I used to dig him

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
kikes are repulsive

No-Lives
9 hours ago
X is 4chan in it’s heyday and 4chan has become reddit 5 years ago.

ChainReaction
9 hours ago
all i get on X is NatSoc posts lol

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
hahaha awesome 👍

@GoyBoy1488
9 hours ago
$14.88
jacob is a respectable man, and a beast. good luck buddy o/

@WhiteWalker
9 hours ago
Africa has the most farm equipment in the world, Haiti has 365 days a year of perfect farming weather and is surrounded by a sea of fish. STARVING because racism.

danzimmons
9 hours ago
stochastic

@Unlikelykrill
9 hours ago
what is bro staring at

danzimmons
9 hours ago
boot licking shabez goi nigger

Operation Werewolf
9 hours ago
$100.00
Nice coat Joel

The Pork Report
9 hours ago
Always asking/manipulating for outside help…

@CampsLindburgh
9 hours ago
he’s looking at his future

danzimmons
9 hours ago
are you all protesting the rape ?’ no, we’re protesting too rape

The Pork Report
9 hours ago
“Never again will anyone kick out the central banks and imprison a Rothschild…”

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
they kill their kids and pose with their toys in photos

danzimmons
9 hours ago
failed virtue signaling

@TASMANIANDEVIL
9 hours ago
Made a vow to himself? Was he going to do another genocide?

DOLO
9 hours ago
Visited Auschwitz while taking aid to Ukraine lol

danzimmons
9 hours ago
pathetic fuckin brownoid

Beige
9 hours ago
88 people watching

PsychodriIIa#2
9 hours ago
$40.00
Thank you for Being A great example to the rest of us o/

Delta Whiskey
9 hours ago

@CampsLindburgh
. On point!!!!

@CampsLindburgh
9 hours ago
Race is not a social construct. Society is a racial construct.

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
yes !! you apathetic sheep 🐏🐑🐏 we’re fighting for you and your children and their future

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
tribalism is self preservation

The Pork Report
9 hours ago
Well said, Joel.

Vettekid1488
9 hours ago
that’s why our ancestors were tribal

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
9 hours ago
we have grooming gangs here too, its no different

BASEDVLAD
10 hours ago
Vlad Tepes spiked muslims, jews and deported gypsies. Thats a good optic

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
NIPPLES wtf lol

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago

@WhiteWalker
lol

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
he’s full come round

@WhiteWalker
10 hours ago
I had a nightmare that I was black. I immediately went to see my bicycle collection.

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
*i hated him a year ago

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
Friendly Jordies has turned out to be alright. i hate hi

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
Drew at auschwitz –
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZSMcPsbIAAu6df?format=jpg&name=small

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
and friendly Jordies being ourguy?

DOLO
10 hours ago
He should have done the AOC hand on gate pose.

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
pretty sure Drew Pavlova smokes weed, his tweets are that fucking stupid.

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
don’t say Thomas Sewell 3 times into the mirror

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
I’ve read that online too. local jews find him pathetic and annoying

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
Nathan bull’s dad LMAO

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
Democracy

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
plot twist – Drew was our guy all along

danzimmons
10 hours ago
wwe

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
Drew might be one of them gay boys aswell as a faggot

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
Kayfabe is when they pretend it’s real

@Ninja404
10 hours ago
lol mike lindells crack pipe

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
Drew Pavlova

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
cos jews are deffo kings of good optics…
Less

DOLO
10 hours ago
They probably claim they are persecuted because of being a homo or smth by their gov

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago

@TheCrucible01
entitled muds

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
fk u bloody council buddy

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
demanding* lol

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
who the fuck do these scum think they are demand permanent visas!

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago
yes saar 💩

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago
They are all shitholes

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
fuck street shitters!!!!!

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
about fucking time

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago

@danzimmons
😁

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
sorry Jacob, but jews and vampires are the same thing

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
lmao

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
good to see our boys having a laugh

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
prolly

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
about Jacob?

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
Israeli news posted this?

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
lol

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago

@TheCrucible01
scum the same color as shit 💩

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago

@PattonWasRight
fucking scum is what they are.

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago

@ChainReaction
lmao

danzimmons
10 hours ago
tourrets is fake anywhoo

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago
FUCK

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago
I loathe Albanese mocking my Tourettes

danzimmons
10 hours ago
tourrets the horror lol

@tRad_Dad
10 hours ago
Jacob had a negro throwing roman salutes behind him on court stairs🤡🌍 zogMog

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
oh man i want to join that reading group

danzimmons
10 hours ago
they will meet mister crane 🏗 first m

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
lol

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago
only good ones end up assassinated by the state

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
yup ^

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago
journalists are scum

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago

@TheCrucible01
projection

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
your just an attention seeker, says the guy who goes on tv for a living

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago
💯

danzimmons
10 hours ago
jew spin

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago
😁

Randall_Waffen
10 hours ago
BASED!

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
You aren’t “reforming”” from NS

danzimmons
10 hours ago
kneel before the lgbtq 🏳️‍🌈 jew fagget system goi

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
to reiterate my question before why do these legal people always say you’re reforming or rehabilitating from White pride? you’ve never said this

Randall_Waffen
10 hours ago
over the top feminine questioning by the press

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
“Are you ashamed???” no.

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
they will argue he was waving to someone. He was looking at someone or something in that direction beforehand

@WeWuzKrangz
10 hours ago
what was going on with the black guy behind Jacob?

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago
o/

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
o/

@J0hnC0nn0r
10 hours ago
https://x.com/i/status/1843909223337603219

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
something shady with the Sonnet family

danzimmons
10 hours ago
throw’em 🆙🫡🫳🏻🤚🏻🫳🏻

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
Western media are corrupt ideologues n voice of globalists

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago

@PattonWasRight
no it doesn’t.

Patton Was Right
10 hours ago

@TheCrucible01
the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
^ dafuq?

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
“In 2012, Sean Sonnet was handed a 10½-year prison sentence over a foiled contract killing that was ordered by Carl Williams, the late gangland figure.”

danzimmons
10 hours ago
brother’s N blood

danzimmons
10 hours ago
hidden hamd

danzimmons
10 hours ago
lol Blair

danzimmons
10 hours ago
lop

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
article –
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/a-career-in-crime-magistrate-s-brother-jailed-after-pleading-guilty-to-stabbing-20240731-p5jxy9.html

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
Sean Sonnet the brother of Magistrate Brett Sonnet who pled guilty to stabbing –
https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_3.311%2C$multiply_0.5%2C$ratio_1.776846%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_99/t_crop_custom/q_86%2Cf_auto/1309447d59446976b2b957f73b30cdb5f2a568fb

danzimmons
10 hours ago
FAGGETS

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
lol’

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
the names Head, Dick Head.

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
lol

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
“this magistrate could be the next James Bond” ~ Jacob 2024

danzimmons
10 hours ago
technocrats

danzimmons
10 hours ago
they’re all media whores

danzimmons
10 hours ago
smurt Jake

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
Jacob, your to nice

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
10 hours ago

@TheCrucible01
No problem.

Sunray Films
10 hours ago
Penis face.

danzimmons
10 hours ago
Face of a pussyless fagget

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
lol

Rebbe Schneerson
10 hours ago
That’s a nonce if I’ve ever seen one.

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
he should grow a beard to hide that chin

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
cheers

@Crazy_Cat_Gentleman
10 hours ago
Less

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
judge –
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZaJuo5asAULdaj?format=jpg&name=small

danzimmons
10 hours ago
never let these blmtifa type fagget’s see you sweat, i even tell them there’s nothing they can do to make me fear their weak asses

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
this guy sounds like a faggot

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago

@TASMANIANDEVIL
Great point

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
bail if you have already been sentenced makes no sense. wouldn’t you just go straight to jail?

danzimmons
10 hours ago
we get it 👌🏻

danzimmons
10 hours ago
sounds very affeminate to me

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
o/

danzimmons
10 hours ago
Tas °/

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago

@danzimmons
:joy:

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
Sometimes a fella just likes to twitch lmao

DOLO
10 hours ago
mannerisms

danzimmons
10 hours ago
mumble mouth 👄

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
a tic

danzimmons
10 hours ago
mumble mouth

danzimmons
10 hours ago
that’s cocaine

danzimmons
10 hours ago
give it 🆙 for Blair 👏🏻

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
^

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
Blair doing good hosting duties and directing the chat tonight

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
damn small hats with the big noses

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
we live on a prison planet anyway

danzimmons
10 hours ago
go N the box 📦 for a year

danzimmons
10 hours ago
easy for u to say lol

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
spot on, Joel

Kike Kuckin’ Kent
10 hours ago
same spirit

@CampsLindburgh
10 hours ago
i’m pushing 70. i lied a little bit

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
nigger tourettes

Kike Kuckin’ Kent
10 hours ago
An American version of Hersant is Chris Woods

danzimmons
10 hours ago
lol

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago

@CampsLindburgh
I’m too old. i only get a 45% Hersant salute these days

@CampsLindburgh
10 hours ago
i often wake up in the morning with a Roman salute going on

danzimmons
10 hours ago
drug dependent fagget’s

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
base

Kike Kuckin’ Kent
10 hours ago
its a dumb word

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
If you knew you were only facing a maximum of 1 year, who really cares

Kike Kuckin’ Kent
10 hours ago
mock it

Kike Kuckin’ Kent
10 hours ago
reject the word wholeheartedly

danzimmons
10 hours ago
showmanship for the cameras

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
HIT LIKE & SHARE
More

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
Reclaim the word as a positive

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
sounds like bipolar

Kike Kuckin’ Kent
10 hours ago
that very word “rAcIsM” is narrative-commanding bullshit

danzimmons
10 hours ago
racism is jewish nonsense. obviously

danzimmons
10 hours ago
i detest these affeminate blmtifa types who think they can be women

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
the full moon made us pro-White

danzimmons
10 hours ago
fagget ass power hungry magistrate

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
he is setting up some false contradiction/conflict between Nazi ideals and being a good person

Lon Awfully
10 hours ago
thats exactly how addictions work

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
it doesn’t make any sense as an analogy, Jacob never denies who he is

ChainReaction
10 hours ago
Doctor Jacob, Mister Hersant

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
it is

Reichsgesetz
10 hours ago
It’s so fckn crazy we’re at this point, anywhere in the world tbh

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
what about human rights?

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago

@TASMANIANDEVIL
exactly, the whole law is a joke.

Reichsgesetz
10 hours ago
Maybe that is something Hersant’s lawyer can show? The guy behind him throwing romans and no charges

@Unlikelykrill
10 hours ago
Why do these judges and lawyers always say you are reforming or rehabilitating? Have you EVER suggested you’d “reform” from pro White thoughts and actions?

@TASMANIANDEVIL
10 hours ago
that is very dangerous. if they can misinterpret any arm movements as resembling a nazi salute

@CampsLindburgh
10 hours ago
there is no freedom that matters without freedom of conscience and association

The Crucible 01
10 hours ago
i will never hail down a taxi again

Reichsgesetz
11 hours ago
That’s why these gentleman here really have a lot of respect around the world for fighting

@Galileo’sTongue
11 hours ago
Plenty of Romans being thrown behind Jacob here:
https://x.com/FolkPeaceVirtue/status/1843788291965071441

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
100%

Reichsgesetz
11 hours ago
Oh ya Australia looks appalling from what I’ve seen during covid

@MikeLindelscrackpipe
11 hours ago

@Reichsgesetz
I saw him throw the salute 3 times

Reichsgesetz
11 hours ago
I figured they’re just rubbing it in that this bullshit law is only applied to whites

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago

@TASMANIANDEVIL
not in victoria

@MikeLindelscrackpipe
11 hours ago
Shameful we let these parasites rule our countries

Reichsgesetz
11 hours ago
Hey do you know who that negro was behind Hersant out front of the courthouse during the media questioning? Looked like he might have done a roman salute lol

@TASMANIANDEVIL
11 hours ago
yeah, but I’m not sure that there are many magistrates that would be any better

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago

@TASMANIANDEVIL
he is an idiot and obviously biased

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
lol

@TASMANIANDEVIL
11 hours ago
he copped some flack for bailing the guy who ran over 5 Pajeets after a low sugar attack

@Moonman
11 hours ago
I wasn’t ready for that. He looks like he’s got an extra chromosome

@CampsLindburgh
11 hours ago
they don’t want to say anything because fear of losing their right to say something

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago

@Reichsgesetz
look what the vic premier Dan Andews did to Victorians during covid, he should have been arrested for his abuses.

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago

@Reichsgesetz
good point

Reichsgesetz
11 hours ago
but it does make things a bit more difficult for them

@Moonman
11 hours ago
Good point

Reichsgesetz
11 hours ago
even with a Bill of Rights here in America, they mostly just ignore it

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
and a bill of rights it exactly what we need

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
the biggest issue we face with this ridiculous law and taking it to the high courts is the fact we dont have a bill of rights.

Reichsgesetz
11 hours ago
^ exactly my thoughts

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago

@Reichsgesetz
and instead of being charged, he will probably be nominated for Australian of the year.

@MikeLindelscrackpipe
11 hours ago

@TheCrucible01
😂😂😂

@TASMANIANDEVIL
11 hours ago
he’s only been a magistrate for 2 years roughly

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago

@ChainReaction
100%

ChainReaction
11 hours ago
looks like a human toe

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
this is the judge btw –
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZaJuo5asAULdaj?format=jpg&name=small

@MikeLindelscrackpipe
11 hours ago
It’s a landmark decision

@MikeLindelscrackpipe
11 hours ago
They’re nervous because they’re wrong

@Moonman
11 hours ago
careful with that arm Blair

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
yup

Patton Was Right
11 hours ago
piece of shit magistrate

@TASMANIANDEVIL
11 hours ago
he will probably only get a few months anyway. it would be silly to jail him for 2 weeks and then maybe give him another 2 or 4 weeks

Patton Was Right
11 hours ago
Hail boys

ChainReaction
11 hours ago
Aussie courts are clownshows – cops n judges do whatever they bloody like

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
^

@TASMANIANDEVIL
11 hours ago
it should only happen if someone poses a serious threat to the community

@Moonman
11 hours ago
hey fellas o/

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
1 year? what a joke!

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
the milk gets me every time lol

Beige
11 hours ago
just got in

ChainReaction
11 hours ago
problem solved, Joel was accidentally using the microwave instead of laptop

@TASMANIANDEVIL
11 hours ago
audios fine

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
no they couldnt

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
11 hours ago
they couldnt even make him look bad

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
Joel, Blair Tom and Jacob are all aussie heros!

ChainReaction
11 hours ago
another reason why everyone loves our Aussies chads

@TASMANIANDEVIL
11 hours ago
fìrst

The Crucible 01
11 hours ago
Jacob is a hero!

@Unlikelykrill
11 hours ago
G’day lads

@CampsLindburgh
11 hours ago
Heil Jacob o/

Sunray Films
11 hours ago
test

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
13 hours ago
o/

DanTheOracle💯🥛🇦🇺👌🏻
13 hours ago
hello lads

australian man
11 hours ago
Victory For Jacob

No-Lives
11 hours ago
$10.00
PHULL SUPPORT SAAR

@TASMANIANDEVIL
11 hours ago
hell yeah

joeldavis
11 hours ago
slight delay but we will be live soon

@MikeLindelscrackpipe
11 hours ago
Total jew fatigue

Beige
11 hours ago
⚡️⚡️

@CampsLindburgh
11 hours ago
Heil o/

@MikeLindelscrackpipe
11 hours ago
$50.00
Little bit of support from the states, keep up the good fight.

@TASMANIANDEVIL
12 hours ago
Heil Hersant

ChainReaction
12 hours ago
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Joel Davis – WWII Revisionism Re-enters the Mainstream – Sep 6, 2024 – Transcript