David Clews: , … he has to say potentially about that young girl. Mark did you see that young girl there talking about herself?

Mark Collett: I don’t think that’s a girl.

David Clews: What? Why not?

Mark Collett: I don’t think that’s a girl. Looks like a man to me.

David Clews: [laughter] No! No! Not, …

Mark Collett: I thought that’s a man.

David Clews: That’s a young, that’s just a young [word unclear] explorer.

Mark Collett: That is a man.

David Clews: Mr Collett, come on! Come on! Isn’t that a far-Right thing to say, sir?

Mark Collett: No. I think that’s a man. That’s definitely a man! I’m not buying into this. I’m not buying into this! That is a man! That’s a man and nothing’s gonna change that. [laughter]

David Clews: Well, first of all, Mark pleasure to have you on the show. Thanks very much for coming over. Is Laura going to be joining us as well?

Mark Collett: I believe she should be. Yes, yes, she should be joining very soon. I’ve sent her the link. So she should be over in a couple of minutes.

David Clews: Great. Well I’ll make a wee bit of space for her in the show Mark. For people that aren’t familiar with yourself and your work can you give us a brief introduction please?

Mark Collett: Well I am, in fact, a man, as in a real man! So [laughter] that’s the start there. No nonsense for me on that.

Now I’ve been involved in nationalist politics for 20 plus years now. I lead a group called Patriotic Alternative. I have been a content creator since 2016. I used to have a YouTube channel with about 100,000 subscribers, many videos with hundreds of thousands of views. Some videos with over a million views on them. I was very popular on that platform. But I was deplatformed. I also have a channel now on Odysee, on Dlive. I have a channel on BitChute. And I’m also on Telegram and GAB..

Because I’ve been de-platformed on Facebook. I’ve been deplatformed on Twitter. I’ve been deplatformed on Instagram. I’m actually banned from having social media accounts now. And we are living in this sort of draconian, tyrannical, world where unfortunately if you say anything regardless of whether it’s factual, or not, if it is not in lockstep with the current moronic, liberal, thinking, then unfortunately you lose your right to free speech.

And this affects everyone, from people down at my lowly level, right up to people who used to be President. So this is a wide reaching problem, and it’s only going to get worse.

And the fact is if people don’t do something about it now. And we’re also we’re already quite far down this road. But if people are just talking about this now we’re going to face real issues.

I’m just going to make sure Laura, …

David Clews: Laura is Mark.

Mark Collett: Excellent.

David Clews: Good evening Laura. How are you?

Laura Towler: Hi! Good evening! Am I muted? Can you hear me?

David Clews: No I could hear you loud and clear.

Laura Towler: Very good. Thanks for having me.

David Clews: My pleasure. Mark was just giving us an introduction to himself and his work. As well Laura, the floor is yours. For people that don’t know you, do you want to tell us a bit about your background, as well, please?

Laura Towler: Yeah. I just need to say something before we begin. I do have a newborn baby. And she’s going through a growth spot at the moment and she’s wanting feeding all the time. So if she cries, there’s a good chance that I might have to just nip off, or turn my camera off to feed her. I hope that’s okay.

David Clews: I was actually going to say to you congratulations on your baby. What’s her name?

Laura Towler: It’s Catherine. Yeah, she’s three months, three months last week.

David Clews: Catherine the Great! A good Russophile name then! You’re showing your true colours there, aren’t you?

Laura Towler: Yeah [laughter] yeah, I am. So introductions I guess, for people that don’t know me. I work with Mark at Patriotic Alternative. I’m the deputy leader of PA. And we’ve been going since September 2019. We’re a nationalist organization based in the United Kingdom. And we currently have around 16,000 supporters. We’re a community building and activism group.

So it means that we obviously have the community building side of things, where we’re creating a network of people. And then we also have the activism side, which is raising awareness of the issues that we think are really important.

And the biggest issue that we think is the most important issue is demographics. And the fact that British people are on track to becoming a minority in our own country.

So yeah, I guess I’m kind of Mark’s right-hand man, or right-hand woman [Mark laughs]!

David Clews: Right-hand person I think will work.

Laura Towler: Yeah [laughter]! We’ve got to use the correct language in today’s culture lol!

David Clews: Mark was talking about the issue of deplatforming and censorship. We started UNN four years ago. When we started UNN there really wasn’t anything called deplatforming. There really wasn’t. The first big one was Andrew Anglin. What was it, Stormfront?

[05:21]

Mark Collett: Daily Stormer.

David Clews: Yeah. The Daily Stormer a that that was the first big one, like the first big deplatforming. And what they said was:

“Well look, we’ll get rid of the real extremists with the real vile stuff.”

But a lot of people said at the time:

“Well, it’s a slippery slope.”

And then Britain First were huge on Facebook. And I remember at the time, … Testing. Yep. Sorry my mic is going in and out! [Mark chuckles] First got deplatformed. And they did say:

“We didn’t want to do it.”

And then there was Tommy Robinson as well, was a huge deplatforming. And now, here we are in 2022. And it’s open season on everything! Like no one’s safe on any major social media platform at all.

And if you look at the trajectory, where are we to be in say five years, Laura, in terms of deplatforming?

Laura Towler: I’d dread to think. Yeah. I mean, I’ve had pretty much everything shut down. I’ve been suspended from YouTube. I had around 60,000 followers on there. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, PayPal.

When I set up my business, Grandma Towler’s, which is a tea and coffee shop, I had a landing page on Shopify. They suspended me. I sent out an email to my subscriber list on Mailchimp. They suspended me.

I’ve had two bank accounts shut down, personal bank accounts. Don’t use them for any political stuff at all. It’s just my personal account which I used to pay my rent and, you know, pay my bills and that kind of stuff. Santander and Monza have shut my accounts down.

Mark had five bank accounts shut down. My husband, Sam, has had his Monza bank account shut down. So it’s just relentless.

I mean, I worry that it’s gonna be utilities in the future? You know, is your gas and electric company gonna say:

“No, sorry, we’re not working with you. We’re a private business.”

But the issue is the fact that they seem to be trying to push us towards a cashless society. And I think that with the Covid-19 stuff that really did sort of push us in that direction, because there were a lot of businesses that were saying:

“No. You can’t use cash.”

And if they shut down your bank account and they take away your ability to operate as a citizen in Britain, if you can’t use cash, how are you going to function? Do, you know what I mean? So. It’s a really scary prospect. And I think it’s something that we need to continue raising awareness about. But Mark might have something to say about it, because he’s had it even worse than me.

Mark Collett – Patriotic Alternative Autumn Update with Laura – Oct 2, 2020 — Transcript

[Mark Collett, Leader of Patriotic Alternative, and Laura Towler, Deputy Leader, gives us an Autumn update. Laura and Mark start with a brief chat about the tragic-comedy debate that Mark had the previous night with a rambling, can’t sit still, juggling, African-American guy in Florida.

Laura then describes in detail the harassment from the “State” through its proxies, for her pro-White, pro-British nationalism. About a month ago, without warning, her bank card stopped functioning and her bank, Santander, eventually informed her that her account had been terminated. Mark also had his bank account made inactive.

He then describes how the Electoral Commission has been dragging the chain, using one excuse after the other, in permitting PA from being registered as a political party.

— KATANA]

Mark Collett: Well I’ve lost a lot of things. I’ve obviously lost all my social media accounts. And people will say with your social media accounts:

“Oh well, boohoo! It’s only Facebook, Twitter, etc.”

But losing your social media not only stops you getting your message out, … I mean, my Twitter account was huge I had 60,000 followers on Twitter. And I would get around 12 million Twitter impressions every month. So I’m reaching 12 million people. That disappears!

Now that not only affects my ability to reach people. But it also affects my ability to connect with other people, with other content creators. Losing your Facebook not only affects your ability to reach people politically, but you lose all your photos, you lose all your connections. You lose contact with people that you’ve known from years, people you might be to school with, old friends, people you don’t have their phone number. They’re all gone to you. You’re basically cut out.

These services also connect you to a variety of other things. Everywhere asks you to sign in with Facebook. Everywhere asks you to sign in with an existing social network. Every place you’ve done that is then cut off from you! Your progress is lost in a number of different ventures, or other apps that you used Facebook to sign in with. This affects your life in a number of ways.

But it goes on to affect your life even worse when you start to lose bank accounts. I’ve lost five actual bank accounts and been kicked off one crypto-currency exchange.

And the crypto-currency exchange was particularly galling, because they froze my assets for months, and months, and months! Meaning that I couldn’t trade, I couldn’t sell them when they’re at a high.

And then, when you finally do get them back they might not even be worth half of what the original investment was. Now, all of this presents real real problems.

But after having lost five bank accounts – one business account, and four personal accounts – you start to realize that you’re running out of options. You’re opening bank accounts. But they’re shutting them down as quickly as you can open them. In an increasingly cashless society, there is nothing you can do.

But that also disrupts your mortgage payment. It disrupts your ability to go and buy shopping. It disrupts your ability to buy food for your family. It disrupts your ability to do things like go to the gym.

[10:03]

I remember when my first bank account was frozen, before they closed it. It stopped all my direct debits going out so I couldn’t go to the gym. I was getting letters from the bank. I was getting notifications. My phone got cut off, because obviously my direct debit for my phone went. I got bills for my broadband saying, you’ve not paid your broadband now. So you have to basically pay a fine now. You have to pay an additional sum, on top of this.

And this all puts huge amounts of pressure on you. And after five a bank account is being closed, you probably think you get used to it. But it’s still a real pain! You have to migrate everything. You have to speak to your bank. You have to move over your direct debits. And then you’re sat there wondering:

“Well, when will the next time, when will it be?”

And as Laura said, it won’t end with bank accounts. It will then move to utilities. When does your broadband company say:

“Well, we don’t like the messages you use our broadband to spread. We don’t think that’s appropriate.”

When’s it your phone company, when do they say:

“Well, we don’t like the conversations you have on our telephone network.”

This will only get worse, and worse, it will only affect more, and more, people. And people who aren’t screaming and shouting about this now, people who are sitting in silence maybe want to rethink their strategy. Because it will trickle down. It will start with people like myself and Laura.

I’ve lost more bank accounts than any other political activist in the UK. But, this will trickle down to other people.

And eventually if you do something as meaningless, and sort of innocuous, as misgendering someone on a social network, what’s the future for you? Maybe a knock on the door from the thought police? Maybe the loss of your bank accounts? Maybe your broadband being taken away? Who knows? This is a slippery slope to something that would make the Soviet Commissars blush!

[11:55]

David Clews: Yeah. And I mean, don’t take this the wrong way, but the argument for why it was kind of done to you guys, … Look I’m not saying I agree with this, but your opponents would say that:

“There is no place for fascism. There is no place for hate!”

And they are going out of their way to destroy you, to give you no platform. So are they not being successful at doing that, then?

Mark Collett: Well, anyone who says that, but equally supported Covid lockdown restrictions, which saw people not being able to say goodbye to loved ones that they’d lived with for decades. People not being able to invite grandma around to Christmas. People being arrested for going for walks in the park with their partner.

People who call us “fascists” are complete morons! Because the real threat here is not fascism. People who use the word “fascism” throw it around so liberally, probably don’t even understand what it means.

The real threat here is kind of a “technocratic communism”, which is closing on all sides. And basically the Covid lockdown laws granted Boris Johnson and the Conservatives more powers than any British monarch has ever enjoyed! These powers were unprecedented, when you look at British history!

Even people like William the Conqueror didn’t have the powers to control the conquered people of the land that he had just been victorious over. He had less power than Boris Johnson granted himself during Covid.

And that tells you exactly where we’re going. And this is going to be enforced on multiple levels. And people who throw around terms like fascism use it, not because it’s an actual genuine argument. But because the term “fascism” is just a silencing tactic, in the same way as the word “racism”, …

David Clews: Yeah.

Mark Collett: … Or racist, homophobe, homophobic, Islamophobic, you’re an Islamophobe! All these things are used to silence people and to prevent genuine debate.

David Clews: I mean, obviously I’m asking that as a leading question, because you look at Canada. You look what Justin Trudeau did. Single mothers, people who donated to a peaceful protest had their bank accounts removed from them. So it will come for everyone eventually. And that’s what people need to really waken up to.

And it is really that technocratic nightmare where people will be banned! They’ll be removed. But why Laura. Why do you think it’s speeded up, you know, especially within the last two, or three years?

Because as I said before that, there was an ability for people to have a debate. There was ability for people to, … And I don’t necessarily think this is all, … I mean, it’s mostly on the Right of the political spectrum, but it goes always, now like the Left is eating itself.

There was a woman’s event the other night that was being picketed. You know, it seems to just be a culture across everywhere. That if anybody steps slightly out of the acceptable Overton window, it just has to be crushed!

Laura Towler: Yeah it does seem to be accelerating really, faster. I mean, it was only a few years ago that we were allowed YouTube channels, and we were allowed to talk about demographics, and race, and stuff on YouTube. And then all of a sudden, of the last few years it’s gone so fast.

I mean, is it, because we’re a threat? Do they silence us and stop us, because we’re a threat? Is it because we’re making ground? And I mean that’s the only thing I can think of really. If we were irrelevant and we weren’t actually making any progress in real life, wouldn’t they just let us continue? Because they lie about us so much! And they have to misrepresent us in order to present a certain image of us to the public.

I mean, they’ll write an article about us and it will include something that Mark said 20 years ago. And then it will say something like:

“Laura once wrote an article where she said she didn’t like Winston Churchill.”

You know, something like that. They just recycle these same arguments about us again, and again, and again! But they don’t actually have anything genuinely bad to say about us, because we don’t do anything bad.

And I think do they misrepresent us and attack us so much, because they see us as a threat? And that’s the only reason that I can think of really. I mean, there is this big sort of like woke culture push, as well, isn’t there? If you’re getting attacked for, I don’t know, misgendering someone, or clapping too loud instead of, what is it, the Jazz Hands that you’re supposed to do now, instead of clapping, all that stuff. I mean, that is just ridiculous! I do think that is just a big push of woke culture.

Laura Towler – We Were Never Asked – Oct 24, 2019 — Transcript

[Laura Towler and a team of volunteers recently conducted a survey of over 2,000 White British on their opinion on the non-White invasion of Britain that has been occurring in ever greater numbers since the arrival of blacks on the SS Empire Windrush in 1948. The vast majority of White British have always been against this invasion and remain so today, as this survey confirms.

The British people have never been asked whether they wanted this invasion, for the simple reason that they would have rejected it out of hand. Instead, it has been imposed top-down by traitorous “political elite” scum that does the bidding of the (((Money Power))) with the agenda of “genociding” Whites — turning them into despised minorities in their countries — in order to bring about  a jewish “New World Order“.

— KATANA.]

But when it comes to demographics and race. I do think they are trying to silence genuine opposition to the system. And they want immigration. And then those of us that are publicizing the negative effects of immigration, it seems to be us that are getting attacked the most. So I think they just want to silence any criticism, really.

David Clews: I talk about this a lot. Someone like David Ike, for example, you know, who has throughout the last two years been proven pretty accurate.

When I was growing up David Ike was seen as a bit of a joke figure, almost. People would kind of laugh. But go and try and find David Ike on YouTube now. Go and try and find David Ike on Twitter. He likewise, he’s been banned everywhere as well.

And for me I think the two big catalysts were the Brexit vote and the election of Trump. I mean, obviously they didn’t turn out exactly how many intended. But what they did was they were a shock to the system. The establishment didn’t want them. And they said after that:

“Well we can’t allow these things to happen ever again.”

And, because that people aware through alternative media, through social media, they where they were winning the battle. So I think you’re right about that, Laura.

Laura Towler: Yeah, it’s interesting. Because, I mean, I’m personally not a fan of David. But I do wonder if certain people get banned, because they are a gateway to other people as well. And then when you look at some of the people who are maybe not necessarily talking about race and demographics in the way that we are, we often get told that people start off watching their content and then pass over to us.

So I wonder if they get banned, because they’re an effective gateway to other ideas which maybe the State don’t want people listening to, or adopting.

David Clews: Okay. Moving on slightly, I’ve got a question then for you Mark.

So you obviously you talk about race, demographics, and White people. Now over the last two years I’ve been very outspoken on Covid, on everything that happened. When I went to more ethnically homogeneous areas, … Again, I’m not seeing merits of this predominantly White areas. [chuckles] Unfortunately they were the most in love with the whole Covid scam, you know. They loved the masking. I would go up to Inverness.

So, and I’m being controversial here. Is the White race in this country even worth saving? [What a deplorable question! – Kat]

Mark Collett: Well that all depends, doesn’t it? You can be glib and say:

“Is the White race worth saving?”

But you’ve got to ask yourself:

“Would this country exist if it wasn’t for the White race?”

If you think that this country has any merits historically, or in the here and now, then you have to want the White race to survive. Because ultimately everything that made this country notable, everything that made this country great, everything that made this country what it was, was the fruit of people of European descent. It was the fruit of White Britons.

And to say:

“Is it worth saving?”

Well, that’s like saying:

“Is the country completely worthless? Is your country something you just want to throw away?”

Because a country really is defined by the people who built it. And if you want to get rid of the people who built this country, well you’re getting rid of what made this country what it is. And I personally think that White British people deserve a right to survive.

And I don’t really think that White British people are suicidal. I don’t think White British people have got to this point where they are going to become a minority in their own homeland by accident. This isn’t something that just came about by a series of unfortunate coincidences.

This is an absolutely structured and plotted attack on our people! Which has been led by the mainstream media, and those who have infiltrated our establishment who have completely reoriented our minds. Made us hate ourselves! Made us despise traditionalism! Forced a wedge between men and women!

And at the same time flooded this country with millions, upon millions, of non-White immigrants that the people of Britain never asked for, never wanted, and have repeatedly said at every opportunity they’ve had, that not only don’t they want this migration but they’d like to reverse it!

But that has never been presented to them as an option by either side of the illusory political divide.

[21:20]

David Clews: But again though. And I mean, you could argue there are nefarious elements. A lot of that is being done by other White people specifically White liberals. So this has been cs.

Mark Collett: Actually the media is overwhelmingly owned by jews. But you can say it’s White liberals if you want to hide from the issue.

David Clews: Well, in the UK, I mean, I understand in terms of America, …

Mark Collett: All the media in the world flows down from Hollywood, and the zionist elite who runs it. That’s the one I think. Look who owns Hollywood! Look who owns the American media! Look at the people who have been warping people’s minds since the 1960s! Look at the people behind the sexual revolution! Just type into Google list of jewish feminists. People behind Marxism, the people behind the Soviet death camps, the people behind the Holodomor, the people behind the Frankfurt School!

And you can keep hiding from this, you can keep saying:

“Oh well! But what if?”

There’s no:

“Oh wells, or what ifs.”

There is a problem here of an ethnic group being disproportionately over represented in these, what are fundamentally anti-White endeavours.

David Clews: Laura? Do you agree with that?

Laura Towler: Yeah, jews are nought point five [0.5] percent of the electorate in the United Kingdom, which is such a tiny amount. But if you look in the government they’re much more than nought point five percent.

If you look in the media. If you look in banking. If you look in Hollywood. If you look in charities and NGOs. NGOs which are ferrying refugees. Refugees over to the United Kingdom. Jews are much, much higher than 0.5 of the population.

So there is a huge over-representation there. But it’s “anti-semitic” to say that, isn’t it? It’s just a fact. There is a huge over-representation. And I think that we should be able to discuss these facts openly and honestly, without being scared away from them.

David Clews: What would, we’ve had people on, of course, I’ve had someone on Covid. He was from Israel. And what he would maybe argue. And a lot of jewish people argue though is, …

That you’re saying that jewish people would think with one homogenous brain, when if you look at a country like Israel, there’s hundreds of political parties. Do they all have the same political persuasion? Are all these people in positions of media and power, are they all politically aligned on everything?

Mark Collett: No! No one’s saying that. That’d be a ridiculous point to make.

The jews are not all one hive mind, they don’t all think alike. And they often have disputes amongst themselves. But what makes them unique, and what makes them stand out from every other ethnic group on the planet, is they have the most extreme form of in-group preference, the world has ever known.

But not only do they advocate for their own in-group preference, and their own people, not only do they have an explicit ethnostate in the Middle East, they are the people who push for multiculturalism in every Western nation!

Not only do they push for multiculturalism in every Western nation, they also push for hate speech laws, they also push for a range of anti-free speech laws, which stops people speaking out against their own racial demise, while strengthening their own racial group in the Middle East.

And whilst they’re not all one homogenous group to the point where they all think exactly the same thing, what they do is they defend themselves from criticism. And whilst they have disagreements within their own family, so to speak, they are very, very opposed to anyone outside of their family criticizing anyone within the family!

So whilst you will find different jewish persuasions, if you criticize any particular jewish group, other jewish groups whether they agree with that group, or not, will come to their defense. And that is the key here. They do treat themselves like family. They do look after one another. And they do, at the same time, wish for other racial groups not to do the same.

So you have people like the British Board of Deputies here in the UK, which is an extremely powerful jewish group, and they advocate for the State of Israel. They think the state of Israel is an important thing. And they advocate for the British government to support the State of Israel.

Now that’s very interesting. Because the State of Israel is explicitly an ethnostate. It is for the jewish people! They have an ethno-state law. They have a nation-state law enshrining that in law! Yet at the same time the British Board of Deputies wants to welcome refugees, non-Whites, people from the Middle East, people from sub-Saharan Africa, here to the UK..

So why would a group of people on one hand advocate for themselves to get an ethnostate, but want the people of Britain to have the very opposite! Why indeed?

[26:18]

David Clews: Would they not argue that, because of the experiences they’ve faced in history, being around the world, persecution, etc., that they’re looking out for themselves? I mean, should, …

Patrick Grimm – Poor-Little-Meees!

[Patrick Grimm wrote extensively during 2007 to 2009 exposing and warning the world about the dangers and machinations of organized jewry and its nation wrecking activities.

Here he explores the unbelievable deceit and hypocrisy of organized jewry as it projects, through its control over the media, the image of being a paragon of virtue and innocence, unjustly persecuted, when organized jewry is, in actual fact, the very opposite, the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century, and now beyond — KATANA.]

Mark Collett: They haven’t really been persecuted have they? I mean, they haven’t really been persecuted have they?

[Added Image] Major expulsions of jews since 250 AD. Note that jews were expelled from England for about 350 years, from 1290 onwards. (click image to enlarge)

They’ve been thrown out of 109 different countries. But if you get thrown out of 109 different pubs, is it because all of the pubs are big nasty meanie heads that don’t like you, or is it, because you probably went round causing lots of trouble in different pubs?

Yeah, it’s probably not the fault of the pubs is it? It’s probably that you’re a little bit of a problem.

David Clews: But then, what they are doing not the right thing to do? Which is to collectivise, which is to look out for each other, …

Mark Collett: Well, should we collectivise then? Should we collectivise along racial lines?

David Clews: Well that’s your perspective.

Mark Collett: No! No! I’m asking you a question. I’m asking you a question. Should we collectivise?

David Clews: I personally, I’m not ashamed to be White. [Even to say such a thing shows how deep the brainwashing agenda has gotten – Kat] And I think that homogenous societies work better. And I think, …

Mark Collett: So yes, we should?

David Clews: Umm.

Mark Collett: Or are you going to get a sore bottom sitting on that fence all night?

David Clews: No, I’m not. I mean, I’m not ideologically rigid with my politics. I mean, my politics have changed quite a lot. But I just, whilst we are still a majority in a majority White country will people think that way?

Mark Collett: No! You’re not answering the question! I’m saying should we organize, like other racial groups do, and basically defend our own interests and stop our culture and our heritage being replaced? Do you think, does David Clews think it would be a good thing for White Britons to become a minority in Britain?

David Clews: No. I don’t think it would be a good thing. I don’t think it would, …

Mark Collett: So then we should collectivize and stand together to prevent ourselves attaining minority status? Because you and I both well know that if we attain minority status here in the UK, we’re not going to get one of those special plaques to put on our doors that say:

“Oh! We’re a minority! So we get special treatment now!”

We’ll be a hated minority. We will be people who will be victimized, we will be beaten, we will be treated even worse than we’re treated now! We’re treated as second-class citizens when we’re a majority!

So what’s going to happen when we’re a minority? It’s going to be hell on earth for us! And if anyone doubts that, just look at how White people are already treated in cities where they have become an ethnic minority. They’re treated terribly!

David Clews: Yeah. And look, I get the whole argument of differences between ethnic nationalism, civic nationalism. As I said, I don’t particularly see myself on either side. I understand both arguments.

But, you know what you guys are arguing and talking about, whilst in the community that we have, how would these arguments play out amongst Joe normie?

I mean, I know you’ve produced graphics. I think most people would agree that they don’t want to see Britain becoming a non-majority White country. But when you dig a bit deeper are people actually prepared, as Laura says, to make a stand on that?

[30:04]

Laura Towler: Well the majority of people do agree with us with regards to demographics. We carried out a piece of activism in August 2019 called “We Were Never Asked”. And we surveyed a couple of thousand people asking them how they felt about White British people becoming a minority in the United Kingdom by 2066.

And only 4.8 percent of people said that they thought it was a good thing. 7 out of 10 people said that they thought it was a bad thing. And then it was 26.26% of people who said “no strong feelings”. But, because we did the survey face-to-face in the public some of those people were scared to answer the question, or some people just said that they didn’t believe us. So they ticked “no strong feelings”..

So we know that the majority of people, 7 out of 10 people, do not want to become a minority in their own homeland, in their own country. And that means that seven out of ten people do not have a single politician representing their views at all.

So I think that our ideas are very palatable to the British public. And what we need to do is present solutions which we have done through Patriotic Alternative. We have a 20-Point Plan which has a voluntary repatriation scheme.

I actually spoke about that at the second PA conference. I gave a 30-minute speech on how we would implement voluntary repatriation in a completely humane way. I can’t see how anybody could disagree with it on an ethical line, because there’s nothing extreme, we’re not forcing anybody to do anything.

Laura Towler – My Patriotic Alternative Spring 2020 Conference Speech – Mar 22, 2020 — Transcript

[Laura Towler, Deputy Leader of Patriotic Alternative gives a very informative  speech at the spring 2020 Conference, on the need for repatriation, forced and voluntary, of non-Whites in Britain, to eventually bring White British people back to being the overwhelming majority of people in Britain.

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But I think. What we need to do really is change the culture within Britain, because we have a culture at the moment where we’re taught to hate ourselves.

One of my YouTube videos before I got suspended was when I interviewed a 15 year old school boy. And he told me some horrible things that they’ve been taught in the education system. On Saint George’s Day their headmaster gave them an assembly on reasons why they should feel ashamed to be English. I mean, this is the kind of stuff that we need to stop. We need to instil a sense of pride in our people again.

And then I think once we change the culture the rest of the solutions will fit into place. But we do have solutions at PA. We have political solutions and then we also have community-based solutions as well, which would include stepping back from the system and becoming as self-sufficient as possible.

David Clews: But again I’m just trying to get my head around though. But how would you deal with a significant amount of people in this country who are White and who are highly liberal? And they tend to infest Twitter with FBPE on their bio and remain Flagsmart. And now you create, …

Mark Collett: So I can answer this very easily.

David Clews: How would you deal with this?

Mark Collett: What we’ll do, is we’ll say London is a wonderful, diverse, multicultural, utopia. And all people who like multiculturalism can go and live among them. And they can go and live in that utopia and surely they’ll be better off and happy for it.

And then what we’ll say is, people who don’t like multicultural utopias can go to a nice White area. Now obviously I’m being facetious.

But the point I’m making is quite clear. That most of these White liberals who claim multiculturalism is the best thing since sliced bread, don’t live in multicultural areas. And when they do live in a multicultural city like London, they live in a gated community. The people who are enforcing this, the people who are pushing this upon us, and the people who are its biggest cheerleaders, are those who never experience it! And that should be a clue to the actual workability of this system, when it’s biggest cheerleaders don’t actually indulge in the poison that they are promoting!

And we talk about people living in ivory towers. And that is where most White liberals actually do live. They live in places where they don’t experience the fruits of the diversity that they claim to love so much.

Laura Towler: Yeah, but what these people do, if I might just jump in, is they tend to vote for refugees and immigration. And then an area becomes really diverse. And then they operate White flight and move away from the area. And they usually give an example like:

“I wanted to move somewhere that had good schools.”

But it just basically means a Whiter area. And then they moved to a White area where there’s no immigration and no crime and it’s absolutely lovely. And then they start advocating for refugees in that area as well.

And just to give an example I live in Yorkshire. And the most woke sort of Left-wing, pro-open borders, pro-LGBT, place in Yorkshire is York. And York is actually 95% White, or it was at the last census. So it’s these really White areas that are incredibly, you know, they want the refugees and they want the immigration. But they don’t have to experience any of it themselves.

David Clews: But again though, like, up until about 1997 like, … Okay here’s a question. I’m just interested. Do you believe in any non-White immigration to the UK? Should that be allowed?

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Laura Towler: Are we talking new people or the people who are here staying?

David Clews: People who are here staying. Because like obviously, … And I mean, I know this was a big issue in the 1980s with like the BNP, and John Tyndall, that said that people from Europe would be welcome here. I mean, would you be open to people coming from Europe based on their skin colour?

Mark Collett: Look! The fact is, …

Laura Towler: We should be as self-sufficient as possible as a country. So we shouldn’t be saying like:

“Oh, we need to fill these jobs in the NHS, or these fruit pickers. Let’s ship in a load of immigrants!”

We should be as self-sufficient as possible. But if it turns out that there is somebody who can benefit the country greatly, I don’t know if there’s some brain surgeon, or something that can perform some activity that no one else can do, then it’s a benefit for us for that person to move to the country. But we believe that immigration should be so small. And it shouldn’t be shipping people over to do stuff that we should do. We should be putting our people first.

With regards to the people who are already here, we don’t support forcibly deporting anybody from the United Kingdom, apart from two groups of people. The first is illegals. And the second is foreign criminals. We only believe in voluntary repatriation.

David Clews: Okay.

Mark Collett: Let me further this.

David Clews: Yeah.

Mark Collett: Let me further Laura’s point. There are people who are distinct and different from the English, the Irish, the Scots, and the Welsh, but are much closer to us than other groups.

So, for example, French, Germans, Swedes these people have very similar cultures to us, similar religions, their language is similar, they have a similar history to us. Yet you have people then from say Somalia, Nigeria, Iraq, Syria. These people are very different to us. Not just on a racial level, but on a cultural level, on the way they view the world.

So if you have say a Swedish family you’re obviously White. And they come and live here. After a couple of generations they will have completely assimilated into our way of life, and you wouldn’t be able to look at them and say:

“Oh look! They’re Swedes! They’re different to us!”

However, what we are doing here is we are importing people from all over the world who have the greatest numbers of differences with us possible! Who are never going to assimilate. Then bringing them in the numbers where they can create their own little version of wherever they came from, import their culture to the exclusion of ours, and effectively completely terraform an area.

This creates a situation where you go to parts of Britain. And they don’t resemble Britain. They don’t resemble Britain racially, ethnically, culturally, religiously! They have no relation to what this country actually is meant to be. Actually what it was. And this creates a complete transformation of our society!

So essentially what we are saying is we would like White Britons to remain a super majority. Illegal immigrants must go! Criminals who have come here and settled, they must go, because they’ve committed crimes in our country.

And we want to ensure that anyone who did come to our country after that was somebody who was more compatible with our way of life. But even if we did allow people in, you still wouldn’t want swamping numbers of people coming here.

Even if you did let Swedes come into the country you wouldn’t want 10 million Swedes coming here and setting up a new city, or taking over an entire city for themselves. And, you know, pushing out British people, or erasing our culture.

It’s got to be about ensuring that we remain dominant in our ancestral homelands. And our culture, our heritage, our way of life, our traditions, also remain dominant. And that our children, that our grandchildren, learn those culture, learn that history, learn those traditions, and that we pass down the things that made us strong and the things that made us great. We don’t want to be severed from our roots.

David Clews: And again, I’m just making this point I’m not saying I necessarily agree with this. But is it not just the situation in 2022 there is a karmic rebalance taking place? Because if this had been 150 years ago people from our country would have been going all around the world and importing our values, creating our own places. Is this just not ying and yang that happens over society? Are we just not in a, …

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Mark Collett: So basically you’re saying multiculturalism is terrible then. Because what you’re saying is we’re being punished for the sins of our fathers.

David Clews: Well could that not be what it is? Because look at the Right, …

Mark Collett: So you are saying multiculturalism is terrible and a punishment, then?

David Clews: I don’t think multiculturalism has been a success. I don’t think, …

Mark Collett: I’m just making sure we’re on the right page. So are we being punished for the sins of our fathers? Now the answer to that is very interesting. Because firstly, as I said, that takes the point that multiculturalism is terrible, and is a punishment.

But what you have to remember is I’m no big fan of the British Empire. I think the British Empire was greatly flawed. I don’t believe in it. I think it was historically a mistake. However, the British Empire gave far more than it ever took. That is a fact!