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“We present an introduction to the Workers of England Union – the only trade union that provides practical help and legal representation to traditionalist and patriotic political dissidents. The presentation will be followed up by a Q&A with English solicitor Robin Tilbrook”
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Mark Collett: Hello and good evening everybody, and welcome to tonight’s stream. Now, you’ll be well aware that this stream tonight replaces my usual prerecorded weekly video. And it is a very special stream with a very special guest. So I’ll be introducing very shortly.
Now, the purpose of tonight’s stream, which is live on Odyssey. It’s live on DLive, and it’s live on Radio Albion.com. And the purpose of tonight’s dream is to give you all an introduction to the Workers of England Union, but also allow you all to ask questions or ask for legal advice. Because our guest I’ll be introducing very shortly is a practicing legal professional. He is a fully qualified, practicing English solicitor, who runs his own company. He is the perfect man to be answering questions.
And you can ask him in the second half of the show anything you want relating to the Workers of England Union for legal advice. Or if somebody has come to you with anything like this “Freeman of the Land” stuff, or other more sort of out there legal ideas, this would be a great time to ask them.
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Now, this is a very important stream tonight because more and more political dissidents on the Right are facing draconian, or anti-White, legislation. People get sacked from their jobs, they get discriminated against. And now we have a way to fight back. And that’s what the Workers of England Union does. But I’m going to let Robin tell you more about that in a couple of seconds. But I’m going to give this guy an introduction because he really, really does deserve an introduction.
Now, I’ve known Robin for a long time. He would probably tell you too long! It’s been well over a decade since I’ve met Robin Tilbrook. And he’s one of the most genuine, nicest and most approachable people I have ever met. And he doesn’t get really the accolades within the movement that he deserves. In fact, he’s one of those guys that does an immense amount of work at his own cost behind the scenes. And he’s not out there on streams very often. He’s not there front and centre. He’s not sending thousands of begging letters, he’s not getting huge amounts of donations for what he does. He donates his time. And he has real effects in the real world, and that’s very important. I’m going to give you a very short of example of what kind of man he is, and I think this will resonate with most people watching.
Now, during the Covid madness, I had a very good friend who I’ve been friends with for quite some time, friends with her since she was a member of the BNP, when I was a member of the BNP. And she had been discriminated against in the workplace because she was exempt from wearing a mask and they had forced mask wearing upon her. And on a Sunday evening, she was up the wall with panic because she hadn’t prepared anything for this legal tribunal. And she texted me and said, look, Mark, I’m desperate. I need help. I’m out of my depth. What can I do? And I gave her Robin’s number. And on a Sunday evening, Robin answered that call. He helped that girl. And many of you will have read about her in the newspapers. Because she was the first and most notable person in the country to win a discrimination case against her employer, because she was forced to wear a mask. That made national news.
And Robin, he doesn’t come out here tooting his own horn. He doesn’t send begging letters saying, look what I’ve done. He’s not there on all the streams getting accolades for the work he does. But that’s the kind of guy he is if you need help, he’s always there. And he’s always willing to give up his free time, even on a Sunday evening, to help somebody who is part of our greater community, who has fallen foul of this anti-White, anti-commonsense, anti-Christian system we live in.
So please give a warm round of applause for Robin Tilbrook. And, Robin, give yourself a bit of an introduction and tell us about the Workers of England Union and the progress it’s made since it came into being.
Robin Tilbrook: Well, Mark, you certainly given me a good introduction there. Thank you very much for that, and thank you for your kind words. So, yes, I’m a solicitor. I’m also the chairman of the Workers of England Union, and chairman of the English Democrats. As far as the Workers of England Union concerned, part of the reason why we founded it is obviously we wanted to mention the “E” word, which none of the other unions were prepared to mention. So obviously it’s called the Workers of England.
We also wanted to be something that the establishment unions aren’t, which is a union that basically sticks up for it’s members and will do whatever is necessary in the legal system to try and protect members from whatever’s happening in their workplace.
And during the lockdown we saw this really being brought home as to exactly what that meant. Because for instance, we had a woman who had been a member of Unison for something like 15 years. She had never asked them to do anything. She had asthma and she was being asked to wear a mask at work. It wasn’t a role where you would think that she’d actually need to wear a mask because she wasn’t really having much contact with the public, even if you accepted the whole narrative about masks being necessary, which I must say I wouldn’t. But some people did of course.
But anyway, she was being told that she had to wear a mask. And so she approached her union, Unison, and said:
“I need some help with this, I need to grievance this demand. And I need to be helped through any disciplinary proceedings that might follow, if I don’t wear the mask.”
And lo and behold, Unison then responded saying they weren’t going to help, because they said:
“That it was against Labour Party policy, what she wanted to do.”
And the fact is the big unions are not there for their members, it seems to me. What they’re there for is to advance the Labour Party cause. And you see this also in another thing that Workers of England are unique about, which is we don’t have workplace reps. What we have is people who come in, they’re paid for by the union, and they represent you in your grievances or trying to resist unfair disciplinary procedures against you.
Whereas the Labour supporting unions, mostly have people who are just simply a workplace colleague. They’re not paid for by the union. But they are on the other hand, fellow employees who if they over do their keenness to help you, are likely to be the next ones to get sacked. Obviously got a conflict of interest straight away. And you’re not getting a good service there, I don’t think. But it’s anyway hit and miss.
But the main thing about it is of course it doesn’t cost you anything and that means that they can give more money to Labour. And that is their main function it seems to me. And I just think that’s completely wrong. It’s not what members expect to be paying for when they join a union. And so in effect you haven’t really got very professional unions in this country. And that matters a lot because the employers are often very clueless about basic rights and legal obligations about dealing with their employees. Is that enough, Mark?
[09:44]
Mark Collett: No. Say as much as you need, Robin. I mean, I was going to come in with a question and just say, obviously there are many political dissidents today who are either traditionalists, they are Christians, they are anti-immigration activists. They hold views that a few decades ago would have seemed very, very normal. But in today’s society, there are political zealots who more or less want to turn everything normal, natural and healthy on its head. And now making simple comments in the workplace, or even outside of the workplace, can see people discriminated against, or even losing their jobs. And Workers of England, Union, as far as I am aware, is the only union in England that is willing to defend people who are being discriminated against, because their political views fall outside of the current liberal political dichotomy. Would you agree with that?
Robin Tilbrook: That’s certainly the case, as far as I’m aware. I’m not aware of any other union that would do. So the point there, Mark, is as a union we are trying to represent our members. So if a member has got an issue, and we can do anything about it, we will try and do. And that doesn’t mean that we’re necessarily endorsing a particular point of view. It just simply means that we’re going to stick up for our members as best we can.
And I think that is a service that is much needed. And it’s also a service that is not being provided by anybody else. And it just seems to me obvious once you stand back and think about it, but actually that is exactly what unions ought to be doing!
Mark Collett: I completely agree. I mean, obviously we do have a situation with, say, the mainstream unions that would definitely go out to bat for anyone who was a part of a group like BLM, or anyone who was part of, say, a trans activist group that felt they were discriminated against in any way. And there are these huge, very well funded bodies doing that. But with you being the only one that is doing that for people who are sort of political dissidents on the right of the political spectrum, how can people get involved? What are the fees, how much is it to join, and what’s expected of people who do sign up?
Robin Tilbrook: Well, not very much is expected, but the union is on the internet, of course. We have a website, Workers of England Union dot co dot UK. And you can join up there. There’s a monthly fee of just under £10. That’s a reasonably cheap fee by comparison to some of the big unions. So the big unions are not offering value for money, but that’s because their purpose is to look after Labour [Party]. We’re not affiliated with any other party, we’re not even affiliated in terms of trade union law with the English Democrats. Obviously I am also an English Democrat, but that’s not the point. The point is we’re not there to provide money for, the union is not there to provide money for the English Democrats. It’s there to look after it’s members and to focus on doing that.
And we don’t get involved in the sort of campaigns that’s currently going on with the nurses, where the big Labour supporting unions are basically trying to get the nurses to go out on strike for a huge pay rise claim. And they’re not thinking in the interest of the nurses at all! What all that is about is trying to produce a cause for Labour to fight over, and to attack the Conservative government. I’ve got no problem with somebody attacking the Conservative government! But the fact is they’re not there for their members. They’re there for the Labour Party and they are partisans for the Labour Party. And I just don’t think that is what people expect. And they’re being sort of dragooned into doing things that aren’t actually in their own individual interests.
[14:34]
Mark Collett: Now, with the Labour controlled unions or the Labour affiliated unions, you’ve explained to me in the past how they funnel huge amounts of their members money into the Labour Party. And how often the Labour Party actually gives them, when in power, huge grants from the taxpayer, which the union then feeds back to the Labour Party. So it’s the Labour government either taxpayer, that gives money to the union and then the union gives it back not to the government or the people, but to the Labour Party itself.
Do you want to briefly explain that? Because I actually find that quite corrupt and quite astonishing. And I think most normal people wouldn’t know how the unions and the Labour Party work hand in glove to basically siphon both the public’s money and members money into the Labour Party coffers.
Robin Tilbrook: So first of all, there is a legal rule that a trade union can’t make a profit. And that’s partly about trying to make sure that any extra money that’s made is funneled back, like you say, into Labour. Also, if the union is a member of the TUC, one of the conditions of being a member of the TUC is that they are Labour supporting, and that means that they have a political fund where any excess money is put into that and then handed over to Labour.
And on top of that, one of the oddities of the labour market system, is that many big employers, and particularly state employers, have union reps who are full-time union reps, and they work either for the union or for the Labour Party directly itself, but they’re being paid for by the taxpayer.
So when the English Democrats won the Mayority of Doncaster, we looked into what was going on in Doncaster. And they got eight full-time trade union reps, that were notionally working for Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council, but in fact did no work whatsoever for Doncaster Metropolitan Council at all! And instead were working full-time for Labour and for the trade union.
There’s been a Freedom of Information act request recently about the National Health Service in England. And it turns out that the English National Health Service is paying £27 million a year for workplace reps like this, which are full-time people who are not doing the job that they’re paid to do! And obviously that is a way of cycling money off the taxpayer, to fund the Labour movement.
Mark Collett: So essentially it is basically a huge scam! Whereas the money that you guys get, that goes primarily to frontline activities. And I don’t know how much you can say about this, but you’ve had a huge number of successes already.
Now, I know that many people who are activists and supporters of Patriotic Alternative, they are also members of the Workers of England Union. And they’re very happy to talk about that, and to promote Workers of England Union. Because any of those people who have had problems at work have obviously come to the union and had excellent legal representation. I’m not sure if you can give any examples of any cases, but if you can, please do. Because I gave one earlier of the lady who was discriminated against. She worked for a major car manufacturer. Now, that was a pretty notable case, because it was all over the news, wasn’t it? That got major newspaper coverage in sort of every mainstream paper. It was on national news. But you’ve had several cases like this where you have successfully represented people. So please give us an example of that because I’m sure people would like to hear.
[19:10]
Robin Tilbrook: Yes, so you’re right, Mark. The difficulty is, of course, that without members saying that we can name them, that wouldn’t be right to do so, I don’t think. But we can talk about the type of cases that we have been winning.
So we have been winning cases relating to discrimination. And the type of cases that you’re thinking of I think of come under the heading of a “system of philosophical belief” and basically if somebody has a “system of philosophical belief” and they’re then discriminated against very often, certainly if they’re discriminated against in the workplace, the union is likely to be able to help them. And I think that’s important.
We were in a phase up until quite recently, where most of the cases that you’re hearing about were people who were on the Left who had been discriminated against on the basis of system philosophical belief. So there was a case of a vegan. There has been a case of somebody who’s a Democratic Socialist. And various others who sought to rely on that position.
But now we’re at the point where, for instance, we had a case where it was upheld that you couldn’t discriminate against somebody who’s an English nationalist. You can’t discriminate against people who have religious beliefs. So, for instance, one of our cases involved a Catholic woman and she didn’t want to have the jabs. And we won the point that she had a protected characteristic! I’m quite optimistic about where this is all going in terms of the kind of cases that we’re winning. Is that basically what you were asking me about?
Mark Collett: No, definitely. And I want to make this clear as well because this is something you and I have spoken about privately. There’s a lot of hesitation from people to get involved in nationalist politics of any sort. Now, people might say, well, getting involved in Patriotic Alternative, you guys talk about race and ethnicity. But you’re the chairman of the English Democrats and, you know, that people are nervous to speak about anything. They’re nervous to speak about the boats at Dover. They’re nervous to speak about demographics in any sense. They’re nervous to give any sort of pushback against nonsense such as White privilege, or anything else that sort of chips away at us on either a racial, or a cultural level.
Now, that kind of expression is actually protected. And I want you just to say a little bit about that, because people don’t think they have any protections to speak about politics. They think the protected characteristics are essentially just race, disability, gender, sexual orientation, and religion, which are the ones covered by the police when they talk about this hate crime legislation. But in fact, when it comes to the workplace, and discrimination that you can take civil legal action over, political beliefs are covered as well, aren’t they? If you could say that about that, that would be much appreciated.
Robin Tilbrook: Yes. So that’s absolutely right, Mark. Political beliefs are, provided they amount to a system of philosophical belief. So, for instance, if we revert back to the jabs and masks for a moment, if your objection to wearing the mask was that you didn’t think it worked, and you also didn’t like wearing it, we wouldn’t be able to run that as a discrimination against the system and philosophical belief. If, on the other hand, you had a medical condition, such as asthma, we would certainly be able to do that as a discrimination.
But also there might be, for instance, with the jabs, one of, some of the cases we’re arguing about, is that people have a view of “my body, my bodily autonomy” that amounts to a philosophical belief, we think. We’re testing that at the moment.
And so as far as political views are concerned, all sorts of things have been held to be political views. So, for instance, the MOD, we’re trying to sack, a Scottish independence campaigner who was a member of the SMP, I think. And the support for Scottish independence was held to be a system of philosophical belief. And he succeeded in that. That wasn’t one of our cases, of course, because we are the Workers of England, Union, rather workers in Scotland. But I think it makes the point that somebody who has a political point of view, isn’t wide open to being sacked, or sanctioned, or disciplined, or whatever. They do have to be willing to fight their case. This is one of the issues that I think we’ve seen certainly anything on the right of centre, people are often just not willing to put their nose over the parapet and fight for things! And of course what that means is that that issue gets won by the other side.
So we do need people who are willing to fight. But we also, I think, need an organizational structure which supports people in fighting. And obviously that is one of the reasons why we need a trade union like the Workers of England Union.
[25:35]
Mark Collett: Now, that’s a very interesting point you make because we obviously have discussed this privately before, but there’s an awful lot of people out there who immediately assume the worst. So if something happens to you in the workplace and you’re a nationalist, you’re a patriot, you’re a Christian, you’re anti-abortion, you tend to find that people who hold those beliefs, straight away think that they won’t have any recourse. And they’re usually spoken to by maybe family members, friends, colleagues, in a way that makes them lose hope, or thinks it’s not worth fighting or not worth going all of the way.
And I’ve got to say this, I think the system we live in, gets its way a lot of the time because normal people don’t stand up to it. Normal people, and I’m not sure this is a British thing, because when I see the French, their petrol prices go up and you’ll have half a million people bringing Paris to a standstill in Yellow Vests. Our petrol price is double and everyone keeps their heads down, grumbles a little bit, but just getting in the queue for the petrol. British people kind of take things on the chin, and have that kind of stiff upper lip attitude. Where they don’t really think they can do anything about it and think that just soldiering through should be the sort of done thing.
Now, I think, obviously, because of what I do, that the best thing to do is fight tooth and nail for every inch! I mean, what would be your, you know what would be your words on that for people who are feeling maybe a little bit of despair and thinking the best thing to do is just keep their head down, walk away and start again?
Robin Tilbrook: Can I quote a communist on your show?
Mark Collett: You can quote anyone you like! [chuckling]
Robin Tilbrook: There was an East German communist who is a playwright, who said, I think this is something that we all to keep in mind, that he said, obviously in German. He said:
“He who fights may lose, but he who does not fight has already lost.”
And I think that that is something that people have to bear in mind. People need to be thinking that they want to fight for their rights. If you don’t fight for your rights, you lose them! It’s as simple as that.
And that’s basically much of the story of what’s been going on over the last 30, or 40 years, in the country. We’ve got people not willing to fight for traditional rights in any form or another, and traditional views, and patriotic views. And the net result is that the Left has really more or less taken over completely the State.
It’s worth bearing mind however, that I think we rather saw this actually very clearly with the whole lockdown situation. The State is much more pervasive, or establishment, perhaps is a better way of putting it, really than just the State. The establishment is much more pervasive than people imagine. So with lockdown, it turned out that the media weren’t prepared to report any contrary narratives. They were just fully on side! They just went along with it. And nobody who was trying to say anything else was allowed to speak on most of the media. And were not reported in the papers, or anything like that. It was only if something happened in the way of them being arrested, or convicted, or something like that, that it got reported. It was just quite appalling to see how abject most of the mainstream media are!
And I think even those of us that thought they were pretty abject anyway, were surprised just how abject they were, and how little they cared about genuinely telling people what was going on.
And if you think back to the fuel protesters during Tony Blair’s time, they were actually standing up and fighting. But what the establishment had done since, they basically destroyed the businesses of the truckers, and haulage firms, and so on. And they used mass immigration and flooding the market with foreign truckers, that enabled them to destroy people that were actually trying to stand up against the way that government was operating.
So you do have to bear in mind that our system in the UK is really quite, well, I can’t think of any better word to describe it other than authoritarian. The only limitation on the authoritarianism of the British establishment, is actually that they’re pretty inefficient and incompetent. If they were efficient and competent, as well as authoritarian, then we would be in even more trouble than we are.
[31:32]
Mark Collett: Now obviously when people are in the workplace, and when you are going about your normal daily routine in the workplace, what would your advice be for people who ask things, or who express opinions? Do you find that there is boundaries that people have to stay within? Or can you express yourself in the workplace? Because people often see there’s a big distinction between things that people say outside of the workplace, and things that people say within the workplace. Because obviously at one time there was probably a much greater distinction. So if you did something outside of work that would have been treated as outside of work. But obviously today with social media, anything you do on, say, Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram, can obviously impact your working life, or it can be brought into work.
So my question really is, what is the distinction for people legally between doing or saying something outside of work hours, and doing or saying something within, say, the office? So say somebody attended, say, a PA hike, and they had been photographed there, or some Leftist group had said, right, this guy attended it. What would be their rights as opposed to if they openly said in the office:
“I support Patriotic Alternative and everyone should go and sign up”?
Robin Tilbrook: Well, the first thing that we start looking at is whether an employer actually has got anything at all in way of policy on social media, or anything that you do outside of work. Most of them haven’t. And so when you get them trying to interfere in what something has done outside of work, they haven’t got a leg to stand on.
Now, let’s say you’re a member of an ordinary Labour supporting trade union, the trade union rep would certainly refuse to represent you! So you wouldn’t know what your actual position was, and you’d get browbeaten in effect by an HR rep, who didn’t really know what they were doing either, but was determined to try and get you out.
And so therefore you might well have jeopardized your chances of success by not properly fighting the first stages. Because you have to fight the whole thing right from the beginning, rather than hoping that the tribunal is going to come in and right all wrongs, at a later stage.
So it is important to set the thing up properly. And that’s why you do need to have proper experienced trade union reps who actually properly represent you and challenge the employer on all the key points that they need to be challenged on.
Probably, unless you work in some sort of politically sensitive job. I mean, if you were, for instance, one of the spades to the Prime Minister, one of the special political advisers, in which case I think you’d probably struggle if you were shown not to be actually supportive of the Prime Minister, or one of the ministers. But for most people they don’t work in politically sensitive jobs, so it’s a complete nonsense for them to then be victimized. But it happens, it happens quite a lot, particularly in State jobs. And the NHS comes to mind straight away. Their management are very much in cahoots with Labour supporting trade unions. So they’re not really neutral on it, they’re already politically engaged. And it may well be that their political engagement is against whoever we’re talking about.
But the only way to deal with that is to challenge it right from the start and to fight the thing properly. And I would just remind your listeners, Mark, one of the lead cases on this issue is a guy called Redfern. Redfern was a BNP activist who had also stood as a BNP candidate in Derby, I think. And he worked for the local bus company. He had been commended as being a very good employee, I think he was the Employee of the Month for several months. And so it wasn’t anything to do with his work, but once it came out that he had stood for the BNP, the bus company forced him out!
Now, at that time, which is before the current legislation came into force, it’s quite a long time ago now. There was no protection for “system of philosophical belief”. And there was not much protection for somebody like him, who’s a White race nationalist, to claim that what was going on was anti-White. That just wasn’t what the system then allowed.
However, that case was taken all the way through the court and tribunal system in England. And then taken to the European Court of Human Rights, where the European Court of Human Rights said that basically he shouldn’t have been discriminated against. And it was a breach of the European Convention for him to be discriminated against.
So the result is that we now have this system of philosophical belief rule, which does actually allow us to challenge any attack on any particular point of view.
So if Mr Redfern was now sacked, I’d be confident that we would be able to win that case for him. But he would have to get proper representation right from the start, otherwise he might find that he got to the point where he was bringing the case, and not able to argue key points, because they hadn’t been raised with the employer.
[38:42]
Mark Collett: So really, in essence, what we’re saying is people have far more protections than they think they have. It’s just essentially people have been beaten down into believing that if they’re sort of White, straight, Christian, traditionalist, they have nothing! And the only people that can be themselves are people who are pushing narratives that we stand against.
So if you’re walking around the office fundraising for a refugee charity and handing out vegan cupcakes, … God, that’s an awful thought, isn’t it? A vegan cupcake? I shudder at the thought of it! Handing out vegan cupcakes to raise awareness for LGBT children, or something. These people, they obviously are completely at ease doing that. And people who are traditionalists just think:
“We have to bite our lips, and get on with it!”
But really, it’s not like that it’s just our people aren’t used to fighting now, used to putting in that graft and pushing back.
And I’ve got to say, I have pushed back against things before, and it can be quite overwhelming for people, especially when there’s the idea of lots of paperwork, lots of forms to be filled out. Sometimes you have to use those ghastly online portals, where you have to go in and you spend half an hour filling things out, only for a big red bar to come up at the end and say:
“No, you missed something. Go back to stage one.”
Now, you at Workers of England, Union, you do have, I think, a number of full-time employees. So people aren’t on their own. There is a full-time group of people. I know some of them, I’ve spoken to them in the past. Very, very friendly, very, very nice people, very, very welcoming, and they’re there to help. So people aren’t sort of left to do the legwork themselves, are they?
Robin Tilbrook: No, that’s right. Obviously, some aspects of things have to be done by the individual. Like, for instance, you’re saying going into portals, some of these portals require the individual to be doing it, who’s making the complaint. But they’re assisted in what they have to do.
I think the key point is partly people are not aware of what their rights are. They’re also not aware what they could do to protect themselves. And if they’re relying on one of the Labour supporting trade unions to help them, they’re going to find themselves straight away in difficulties. And the fact is, there isn’t organizational support for a lot of people doing things. And that’s obviously part of the reason why we need an organization like the Workers of England Union to support people.
Mark Collett: Now, I do have one other question for you about Workers of England Union. Obviously, Patriotic Alternative exists outside of England. We aren’t just an English nationalist group. We have supporters in Wales, we have supporters in Northern Ireland, and we obviously have a very active group in Scotland.
Now, what is the situation with people outside of England? Because obviously there’s going to be people watching the stream tonight, you’re going to be saying:
“Hey, I’ve really enjoyed all of this, this is absolutely fantastic! And what you’re saying is right up my street, but I live in Scotland.”
Or I live in Northern Ireland. Is there any legal protection from you guys for them? Is there anything they can do?
Robin Tilbrook: So many of the rights are very similar and in some cases identical. But the legal systems are different in Scotland and in Northern Ireland, which makes it very hard for an organization to be covering the whole of the UK the same. Even the Labour sporting trade unions have separate elements, or departments, or structures, for Scotland and Ireland, and maybe also for Wales, I don’t know. But the legal jurisdictions in Great Britain are England, Wales, and Scotland. And then you’ve also got Northern Ireland, and obviously the various islands, like the Isle of Man, and Guernsey, and Jersey. They’ve all got different legal systems.
People tend to think that the UK, when I hear people talk about “British law”, for example. There has never been such a thing as British law, and there never will be. The law is different in England and Wales. And the Welsh government is currently trying to break Wales away from the jurisdiction of England. So there will be a Welsh jurisdiction, and an English jurisdiction, and a Scottish jurisdiction, and Northern Irish jurisdiction. So all I’m just saying is it would be quite hard for us to operate throughout all the jurisdictions, because we’d have to have people who knew how those different jurisdictions actually worked.
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Mark Collett: So essentially, then, if we have people in Wales, if we had Welsh supporters, you could represent them, because they fall under, …
Robin Tilbrook: Yeah. We intend to. At the moment, our constitution talks about members being in England only. But we’ve got an EGM coming up in early December, and we’re intending to change that so we can take members who are also in Wales. And that is simply about the jurisdiction point. We want to be able to represent members throughout the jurisdiction of England and Wales.
Mark Collett: That’s superb! We’ve done 45 minutes and we’ve had a few little issues with the stream tonight. Unfortunately, our main platform is not actually working tonight for everyone, so we have vastly depressed numbers, which is very unfortunate. Because obviously we’re hoping for a slew of different questions and so far we have none! [chuckling]
Robin Tilbrook: You are going to have to ask the questions, then, [chuckling] Mark!
Mark Collett: I’m going to have to come up with some questions to kill the next 45 minutes. Because I’m not getting a guest like Robin Tilbrook on the show and not getting our money’s worth. Not that we paid him for anything! But, [chuckling] yeah, unfortunately we don’t have any questions because Odyssey is not working. And I’ve tried it everywhere. I don’t know what the problem is. Very kindly, we have had Tom from Odyssey reach out to us, so I’m sure we can work it out. And I really have to apologize for Robin for giving up his Friday evening for this sort of obviously not to be working, which is quite embarrassing, especially on my count, because I hold, obviously, Robin in very, very high regard.
So I’m a little bit upset about this issue, embarrassed and frustrated. I’ve been tapping away like a mad fool attempting to fix this, but unfortunately, I haven’t managed it yet.
So I’m going to start off with a question that Robin is dying, dying to answer! I’ve got two questions for him that people always ask me. And I want Robin to answer this because I get these questions all the time from people who write in. And Robin’s already smirking because he knows what they’re going to be, and he’s already answered these to me in person.
But I’m going to start with “Freeman of the Land”. There are these people who think a legal defense in a court of law against something like a Public Order Act, charge, etc, in England is to declare themselves as a “Freeman of the Land” and that somehow magically gets rid of every sort of charge against them.
Now, there are several things like this, and I’m being a bit reductive and reducing these down to one thing. What is your advice for people who get arrested? They’re out on a protest. The police kettle them, and the police then, as an intimidatory tactic, begin arresting people, and charging them with some trumped up public order offence. What is your advice to those people?
Robin Tilbrook: They probably wouldn’t be charged straight away, but they might be arrested, and taken off to be interviewed. And obviously one of the things that one has to say to anybody who’s arrested, and the police then try and interview them, is that they simply should absolutely refuse to be interviewed. Unless and until the duty solicitor is present. And at that point, they need to get the duty solicitor to say that they’re not going to give any comment.
And it is one of those extraordinary things that people seem to think, and I often hear people say that:
“If you haven’t done anything wrong, you’ve got nothing to hide, you should then speak.”
But you’ve got to bear in mind the police are not interested in anything that you might say that would tend to get you acquitted, or prevent you from being prosecuted. They are only interested in getting you to say something which will get you convicted.
So you shouldn’t be doing these interviews or saying anything, at these interviews. And if you do, it should be very, it should be on specific advice from a solicitor. And anything else, it’s just very foolhardy indeed!
I generally suggest people look at the Professor from West Virginia telling us why you should never talk to the police, the video out there. And that’s an amusing way of seeing the issue. Because he’s saying that even if you’re innocent, totally innocent and you can say that you were actually in a different part of the country when whatever it is happened, if the police can then produce any witness who says he thought he saw you in that area, even if you completely mistaken, you’re probably going to be convicted.
So it doesn’t even help you to say that you were somewhere else, necessarily. You may well wind up being convicted as a result of having said that. So there is absolutely no benefit, in most cases, to say anything to the police!
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Mark Collett: So moving on to somebody who has been charged and they’re in court. Obviously, I’ve had a number of people, … I say lots, I don’t get emails about it every day, but I have had people come to me saying that:
“If you declare yourself a Freeman of the Land, if you declare that you are a Free Englishman.”
And the court has no jurisdiction over you, et cetera. That somehow that’s kind of like magic words, it’s a magic get out of jail free card.
Now, obviously, I know you’ve heard similar things to this, and I know some people say:
“Well, you’re a solicitor, so you’re bound to say that doesn’t work because you’re sort of part of the system.”
Et cetera. I don’t believe that nonsense. I’ve been in court enough times to know, [chuckling] listen to your solicitor! Listen to your solicitor! My advice, this is a question for Robin, but I’m going to tell you what I think anyway, because essentially it’s my show, so I’m going to say what I think.
There are several people you should always listen to, right? Always listen to your dentist! Always listen to your mechanic! Always listen to your solicitor! There are three things that you definitely want to take good advice about! [chuckling] When that guy’s got the drill in your mouth, you don’t want to be saying to him:
“No mate, use the drill with a bigger head and then use that, like, little Hoover thing they put!”
No, no! Let him get on with his business. And the same with your car. You wouldn’t go, you won’t go to your garage, you mechanic at your garage and he says:
“Look, you need this certain size spark plug.”
And you’re like:
“Well, actually, mate, I want one that’s six million bigger!”
Because you just don’t know what you’re talking about. But you do get a lot of people who have read something online and think they’re a legal expert. They think they know it all. So you must have heard about these people that stand up in court and come out with these. I don’t want to malign them, come out with these sort of, how should we say, irregular defenses. What is your advice for those people? And what do you think those people are basing these irregular defenses on? And can you sort of debunk any of them that you’ve heard?
Robin Tilbrook: Yes, the point you make about the Freedom of the Land, it just doesn’t work in a legal court. And if anything, I think people who say that tend to be the butt of jokes, certainly amongst the court staff, and the judges. And the fact is that the legal system isn’t always fair, it isn’t always something that where there’s a big overlap with common sense, but it is the legal system. And you can’t sort of duck out of it by uttering expressions like:
“I’m a Freeman of the land!”
Particularly the sort of idea behind this freedom of the land is that somehow some sort of universal human rights, which has some overlap with Common Law concepts.
And the fact is, most legal systems in the world are not Common Law anyway. There’s no connection to Christian thinking in most legal systems in the world. If, you know, anything about history, you know, that most states in history have been tyrannies of one sort or another. There’s no sort of universal system that’s going to come in as a rescue you, if the legal system in this country isn’t helping.
And I can see why people want it to be so, but it just isn’t! And people also often think that if they tell the police what’s going on, and they sort of confess a little fault, that that’s somehow going to get them off the hook. Whereas, in fact, of course, the police need every conviction they can get, because they’re not very good at getting convictions of real criminals. And so they’re normally quite keen to jump on anybody that’s overstepped the mark in such a way that they can claim a conviction.
So I think it really is important to do what you said and to get proper legal advice before plunging in. After all, it is an old saying, isn’t it:
“That fools rush in where angels fear to tread.”
Mark Collett: Agreed! Now, there’s another thing that I’ve been emailed about. And this is another one that I’ve been asked about. And it’s something to do with they call it “legal name fraud”. Now, it’s quite an interesting thing where there’s this I’m not going to call it a rumour, but it’s kind of a theory. Somebody’s come up with this idea that when you’re registered at birth that forms a corporation in your name. And that is somehow a fraud against you. And that you can essentially get out of lots of your different obligations by burning your birth certificate, and ordering a new one online from certain people who produce birth certificates that are not registered with the government. Is there any truth in this? Is destroying your birth certificate a magic golden ticket that allows you to not pay tax, walk on water, and never answer to the court?
Robin Tilbrook: You’ve answered your question there, Mark! [chuckling] No, of course not! But no doubt it is of some financial interest to those that produce such certificates, who I think charge for them. Somebody who does that is heading towards more and more difficulties with the legal system.
And I’m afraid one of the things that we saw quite a bit of in the whole lockdown situation was people refusing to give their name and address when the police asked them for it. Thinking that by not giving their name and address, they were refusing “joinder”, I think was the cry, or not consenting to be involved in the legal system.
The police carry truncheons because they know that not everybody is going to knuckle down to the legal system. And the power of the state does in the end rests at least partly on force. And so it’s not about totally whether you agree you’re going to be involved. You are in the State. The State is going to enforce it’s will upon you.
If you refuse to give your name and address, the particular way which the state’s going to enforce it’s will on you is the police officer is going to then have power under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act to arrest you! So you may have been committing originally a parking offence, or something very minor, that wouldn’t allow the police to arrest you. But if, for instance, you haven’t got any number plates on your car, and you’re committing a parking offence, they are entitled to ask you for your name and address. And if you refuse, or they think that the name address you’ve given is false, they’re entitled to arrest you! And very likely they will. So you’ve got yourself arrested simply by refusing to cooperate as required.
Mark Collett: Thank you. Now, we do have some paid questions. I’m going to ask them now.
Cheesy Watson gave £50. Thank you so much, my friend. That’s very, very generous of you, he says:
“Has Robin dealt with many positive discrimination cases? I noticed that state employers explicitly exclude White British people from professional programs and courses, and then call it positive action. Also, does Robin think the 2010 Equality Act should be abolished or reformed!”
Now this is something we’ve spoken about privately in terms of positive discrimination cases. So please do give your thoughts on those first, and then we’ll move on to the second part of the question in a second.
Robin Tilbrook: OK, yes. So “positive discrimination”, so-called, is actually obviously discrimination. And your listener is certainly right that that’s used often to advantage non-indigenous people and non-mainstream people. And the snag is, of course, that we very rarely have people come forward saying they want to challenge that.
But there was actually quite a good case, I think does illustrate the point, rather than easily, where I think Cheshire Police had such a provision in force about recruitment of new constables, or central constables. And there’s an English applicant who did better than everybody else on all the tests that he was put through. Part of the selection process. But he still wasn’t offered the job at the end of it. And so he, full marks to him, he challenged Cheshire Police, and he beat them! And they were shown to racially discriminated against him as a White, heterosexual, English man. But of course, most people don’t take the organizations on, and so they get away with it.
I would urge anybody who sees such an advert, who thinks that they might qualify apart from the ethnic, or religious, or whatever it is characteristic that has been promoted, to apply. And the traditional Leftist method of doing so, is they apply in two names. One their actual name. And the other in a name that seems to suggest that they are a member of whatever group it is that’s being promoted. And if they get an interview with one, but not the other, they’ve then got a pretty strong case for bringing a discrimination claim.
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Mark Collett: Well, I’ve got an interesting thing that I’m going to mention to you. I was recently contacted by an old friend of mine and I’m not going to give her real name, but she had applied for a number of jobs with a CV in her real name and we’re going to call her Anne Jones. That will work.
And basically, she then put in a CV in the name Anne Yang, with an oriental sounding name. And basically she started getting callbacks immediately from places that had rejected her when she used her own name. And is there cases like that? So, say, when the BBC or the government, or the police or an organization like that actually specifically advertises for in a way that discriminates against, say, the indigenous English people, the indigenous Scots, indigenous Welsh. If you were then indigenous and you did apply for that job and got turned down, would you, and you could prove you were turned down because of your ethnicity, you could then take legal action, couldn’t you?
Robin Tilbrook: Yes! Obviously, the Cheshire Contemporary case, I’ve just been talking about that’s exactly that, really. He’d gone through more of the process and it was unarguable that he was the best candidate, and yet they wouldn’t appoint him. In the case where somebody gets approached in the Anne Yang name, but doesn’t get approached when they’re Anne Jones, it’s discrimination.
And I think it’s worth saying that even for a basic discrimination, where there’s no insult, or anything like that, the award can be up to about nine and a half thousand pounds. So there used to be quite a number of “culture warriors” who went around and made quite a lot of money out of doing that. And you still could. But obviously the culture warriors won’t make any money. They’ll be the ones that are immediately appointed [chuckling] now, whereas 30, 40 years ago they were ones who were saying that they were being discriminated against. But the boot is very much on the other foot now.
So I would say Anne Jones would be in with a good chance of a good payout. But it is worth bearing in mind that the case has to be brought within three months. She leaves it, she can’t bring a case in the employment tribunal. And that is the safest place to bring such a case. If you bring a case in the employment tribunal, you’re very unlikely to be ordered to pay any costs. It’s really quite easy access to it. And the employers are going to know that it’s going to cost them a lot of money. They could wind up with a finding of discrimination against them and that’s going to be a serious problem when they come to try and deal with the State, or advance their careers. Because there is a rule that if you are found to have discriminated, then the State is closed off to you from a promotion point of view.
We did actually have a case with the Workers of England Union, where somebody was found to be an English nationalist and he was marched off site straight away, and this was one of these development agencies. So what we did was we put the name of the chief executive who’ve been involved in this decision on the charge sheet, as it were, on the ET1, and we also had the name, obviously, of the organization. There was then a judicial mediation which made it clear that they were going to lose. And the person in question got to pay out of £25,000.
Mark Collett: This is what people need to hear. Basically, we are the underdogs in many ways, but that doesn’t mean we can’t fight back. And it certainly doesn’t mean there’s no way for us to win. And I think one of the important things you should take away from this stream is Robin is here arming you with ways that you can win. And the Workers of England Union, if we’re going to go with the military analogy, has all the best armaments. You’re not just going on to the battlefield alone, fighting alone. If you’re joining the Workers of England Union, you’ve got your own tank division backing you up. That’s what we’re saying.
And the second part of the question is:
“Do you think the 2010 Equality Act should be abolished, or reformed?”
Robin Tilbrook: Well, I think the first point is, as far as Workers of England Union are concerned, we are working within the current legal system, which includes the Equality Act. The Equality Act does give us some tools that we can work with, as I’ve been saying about bringing cases based on discrimination on the grounds of philosophical belief. We are making a success of bringing those type of cases. So I’m obviously slightly reluctant to Chuck out the Equality Act if everything else remains the same.
If you were talking about an overall reform that balanced the legal rights much more effectively than we’ve currently got, well, then I could see that you might not need the Equality Act. But if you just checked out the Equality Act and left everything else in place, all that’s going to do is prevent us from challenging organizations for discriminating on the grounds of philosophical belief.
Mark Collett: Excellent. So basically, in a nutshell, because I don’t want any editing this out and miss sort of representing what we’re saying, in an ideal world, all this equality nonsense would be basically done away with. But we don’t live in an ideal world. So throwing out the one thing that does give sort of White traditionalists or nationalists legal protection would actually be a detriment to us in terms of fighting back within the current overall legal framework.
Robin Tilbrook: Yeah, I mean, give me another slightly different sort of point. I remember when we, the English Democrats were talking about standing in the EU elections. We were in favour of coming out of the EU. And we had people trying to say to us that because we wanted to come out of the EU, we shouldn’t stand any EU elections. And the same argument had apparently been run by various people within UKIP. I’d dare say it was also run by various people within the BNP, probably, for all I know.
But of course, what they’re basically saying is that because the other side have got a good weapon and we don’t agree with that weapon, we shouldn’t use it. Well, that’s more or less the same as saying we ought to surrender right away, rather than actually fight in a way that’s effective.
Because court cases aren’t just about the argument, they’re also about the process. And the same is true of war generally. War isn’t about the argument. The argument comes into it. You couldn’t completely knock it out, but it’s mainly about resources and organization and focusing on what’s needed in order to win. And the same must be true of court cases. And the same is also true, I think, of any political orientation campaign.
Mark Collett: Thank you. Aunt Sally gave £3. Thanks so much, Aunt Sally. I hope you got your book in the post. And it says:
“I’m sure I heard you say on Patriotic Week review that it was your mother’s funeral today. I really do appreciate the sacrifices you make for our people. Thank you, Mark and Robin.”
It was actually yesterday, Aunt Sally. It’s Thursday when I usually record my weekly video, so obviously I was at my mom’s funeral yesterday. And it passed off just as I’d hoped it would. But things got remarkably grimmer when I got home, and was awoken at two in the morning to scrape my daughter sick off the carpet. So if I’m looking a little tired today, it’s because Sofia did her best impression of Reagan from The Exorcist. And as our heads spun round, the vomit cascaded everywhere! So we’ve had four rather large bouts of throwing up. It’s quite good because she was regular 02:00, 04:00, 06:00, and 08:00! So it was in two hourly bursts! But we are through that. Hopefully when this streams over she’ll be tucked up in bed, and I won’t be scraping last night’s tea off the carpet!
Robin Tilbrook: [words unclear] for as long as possible?
Mark Collett: Yeah, I’m not taking part in any bedtime procedures. Robin’s here with us tonight till 11:00 p.m. And just dropping that bomb shell. [chuckling] Hopefully she’ll be worn out by then. But thank you for their kind wishes Aunt Sally.
Max Anderson gave £3. Thank you so much. He said:
“What about agency zero based contracts, locum workers, versus full-time-time employment? Will you have less of a leg to stand on being a locum zero based contract, etc, on terms of political discrimination?”
So what about these people on these zero hour contracts, et cetera? Can you represent them and help them?
Robin Tilbrook: Obviously, the first precondition is that they are actually members. But assuming that they’re members, yes, of course! They are employees. And if they’re being discriminated against, they’re entitled to bring an employment tribunal case about it. That’s all there is to be said, really, about whether you can bring in a discrimination case.
The more difficult case for somebody who’s on zero hours, is actually an unfair dismissal case. But in order to qualify for that, at the moment, you have to have done, two years continuous employment. So that might be an issue. But certainly if we were talking political views and zero hour contracts, we could do something about it.
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Mark Collett: And I just want to point out, because I’ve assisted in a case like this. You get more employment after two years. And essentially you get very few before two years. But discrimination is an exception to that.
Robin Tilbrook: Yep.
Mark Collett: So, for example, if you’re a normal guy and they sack you at work because you had an argument with somebody and they took the wrong side, and you feel it was unfair, you only get protection for that after two years. But if somebody gets rid of you after three months because you’re White and they turn around and say:
“Look here, white guy, we don’t want your type around here. Viva the Coloured Revolution!”
Or something like that. Even if you’ve only been there three months, you get all the protections, because that’s a discrimination case.
Robin Tilbrook: Sorry, just referring back again to the Redfern case. Because Redfern hadn’t done, two years. So he couldn’t apply for unfair dismissal at the time. And at the time there wasn’t any right to claim discrimination on the grounds of philosophical belief. And philosophical belief has been interpreted quite widely. So it does include political viewpoints. He would have been able to claim it. He would have been able to claim protection against discrimination and get compensation award, because he was a White race nationalist, he would have been able to claim that.
But because at the time there wasn’t the Equality Act, they didn’t have the provision about the system of philosophical belief, he couldn’t claim that. And it was that the European Court said was wrong. And it’s also that why is the reason why there is now that protection. Actually it’s a good example, isn’t it? Of the importance of fighting! Because in the end, he’s established an important point.
Mark Collett: Thank you so much. Winston Fuji Moore, he gave $10. Thank you so much, Winston. He said:
“Mark, fix your Joe Biden tier internet, lol!”
I actually take exception to that. So I’ve done a sneaky speed test during this stream, I have a download speed of 148.66 megabytes, and an upload speed of 29.52, with a ping of eleven milliseconds! I can assure you, if anything is at fault, it’s not my connection! But he asked the question and this is yeah, he did also ask an important question. He asked a number of questions, actually. He said he looked up Robin:
“Does he think the UK itself could have a confederal form of government like Switzerland, and break away from international groups like the World Trade Organization, and the UN, etc. And would that solve the problem. Or is English independence the only solution?”
Robin Tilbrook: Well, the fundamental issue about English and the reason why we support English independence is because what the British political establishment want to do, is they want to break England up. So we’ve actually got, in my view, a quite straightforward binary choice. Are we happy to see England broken up, or the UK? And of course, the English, quietly and without protest, pay to bankroll Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. We don’t get any credit for that. We get very much the bill and the blame.
But we’re probably nowhere near the point where it will be the English that break up the union. It looks like that the Scots again have beat everybody to the mark on that one. And bringing up second place at the moment seems to be Sinn Fein and the Irish nationalists in Ireland.
Mark Collett: Thank you. Winston also asks:
“Does Robin think that hearts and minds can be won against immigration to Britain by emphasizing the negative economic impact towards workers and regular folk. If so, how would politicians listen?”
Robin Tilbrook: Well, obviously [chuckling] I’m being asked questions about the English Democrats here, rather than my capacity with a hat on as a Workers of England Union person. But I think the answer to that question is that hearts of minds are already pretty firmly on the side of us having far too much immigration into this country, and much more needs to be done in order to prevent illegal immigration, deport illegal immigrants, and restrict the numbers coming in.
But that’s not really the key issue in what we have in the way of our political system in the UK, where the establishment parties, and governing entities, including the bureaucracy, are fully wed to the idea that they’re going to carry on having mass immigration, whatever we want!
And I think you can’t really do better than to point out that Boris Johnson was elected on a ticket which included clamping down on mass immigration and controlling it. “Controlling our borders” was the cry! And what did you do last year? He went off and organized his government to let in, to grant visas, 1.1 million visas, last year alone! And 1.1 million is more than the population of Greater Manchester, I think.
So, in effect, they’ve let in a new Greater Manchester.
And it’s probably more than that, because, for instance, the figures, the way they expressed it was you need to think about it quite carefully. Because they didn’t just say they’re letting 1.1 million people. What they said was they’d granted 1.1 million Visa applications. Well, family of eight. That’s probably one Visa application, isn’t it?
Mark Collett: Indeed. Thank you very much. And Winston also gave another $10. Thank you so much. And he said:
“US employers are given tax breaks for hiring illegal immigrants, and Visa holders who themselves don’t have to pay as higher tax as native citizens. There are also other benefits from the government for immigrants. Does the UK government do things to promote immigrant hiring, apart from just bringing them here?”
Robin Tilbrook: Yeah, I don’t think they do anything specific like that, but they certainly, … One of the things that Boris Johnson did was he took away the requirement for an employer to look into whether or not they could employ people in England before advertising for people to apply for visas to come here from somewhere abroad. So he, in effect, green lighted employers picking the cheapest employees to come from wherever they wanted them to come from.
So our political system and our political establishment groups, they’ve got different ways of doing it, but it’s probably amounts to more or less the same thing. They are trying to encourage mass immigration!
Mark Collett: Thank you so much. Saint Harrison said:
“Do you have to unlock your phone if the police turn up at your home?”
Robin Tilbrook: Well, if they demand that you unlock your phone and give them the codes, they will tell you that if you don’t do so, they can arrest you under the Terrorism Act, of all things. So the answer to that question is yes, in effect. But you have to be asked in the right way. And they have to offer the right threats before you would do that.
And I think it’s also an interesting example of how the British political establishment have been basically trying to make it easier to convict people for the last 30, 40 years. A lot of the protections that used to be in the legal system have been removed. And you wouldn’t use to have to provide access to things in that kind of way. Obviously we didn’t have mobile phones 40 years ago, but if you could think of something that would have been equivalent, you wouldn’t have had to have provided access to it. And they certainly wouldn’t have gone around claiming there was something to do with terrorism, which is obviously ridiculous!
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Mark Collett: Thank you so much. Nativist Warning said:
“Can an employer have a policy that if someone’s political activities slash beliefs contradict their ethos slash standards, that is ground for dismissal?”
Robin Tilbrook: But I’m not quite sure. Is he asking whether employers do that, or is he asking whether there is anything that we could do about it?
Mark Collett: He’s asking, is that legal, effectively? So if an employer said:
“You have to hold these certain beliefs to work here, and if you hold beliefs, or get involved in activities that the company feels contradict their beliefs, or core values, would the company be entitled to dismiss you for that?”
Robin Tilbrook: Okay, so this very much depends on what the circumstances are. So, for instance, the Catholic Church. If your employer was the Catholic Church, obviously the Catholic Church might well be able to say that you got to be a Catholic. If you were working in something that was religiously sensitive.
You might be amused to know that the Church of England has now got to the point where people that work in the diocesan offices of the various Bishops, many of them are no longer Christians, let alone Anglicans. But that’s the way that the Church of England’s gone.
If you were working for, say, the Labour Party, perish the thought, but if you were, they could obviously insist upon you being a Labour supporter.
But for most businesses, there’s no legitimate reason for insisting on political conformity. And when they try and do so, the only reason they get away with it is that the people that are being subject to this are not taking proper advice, and not got the proper support.
Mark Collett: Thank you. I’m Just Talking Serious said:
“If Patriotic Alternative became a registered political party, would that gain those associated with it extra legal protection?”
Robin Tilbrook: Actually, no. Because it’s the system of philosophical belief that’s protected, not the membership of any particular organization. So your argument, if challenged, isn’t:
“I’m a member of so and so.”
Your argument is:
“I believe in this system of philosophical belief and you’re discriminating against that.”
Mark Collett: Thank you. Popcorn Power said:
“Is there a comparable organization to the Workers of England in Ireland?”
Robin Tilbrook: I don’t believe there is. We did have contact with some Irish activists who were saying they needed something like the Workers of England. I don’t actually know what the regulatory system is for trade unions in Ireland. But there would be some sort of regulatory system.
In England we have to register with the Certification Office. And Workers of England Union is registered with the Certification Office as a trade union. And furthermore, we’ve also got our certificate as an independent trade union, which means we’ve got all the regulatory boxes ticked that we can do.
And there’ll be something similar in Ireland, I suspect. And people that want to organize such an equivalent organization, I just think they could do it. It’s just a question of the time and effort involved.
Mark Collett: Thank you so much. And Popcorn Power also said, and this is a really interesting question, actually, I think I can answer this one, but I’m going to let you answer it because I might get it wrong. But I think I do know the answer to this. He says:
“Have any of the companies told you that you cannot represent someone they employ because they already belong to a different union that covers that company, and has negotiated for them?”
I think what he’s asking is, can a company say:
“Well, look, you can’t come in and help because you have to be a member of a specific union to work at this company?”
I think that’s actually illegal. I think Margaret Thatcher outlawed closed shops. Is that correct?
Robin Tilbrook: I think she did. I also think the European Court of Human Rights again, has said that closed shops are not allowed, because there has to be freedom of association. And there is also a specific law in the jurisdiction of England and Wales, I think, also in Scotland, and maybe in Northern Ireland, which says that basically:
“You can be represented in a disciplinary or grievance procedure, either by a workplace colleague, or by a union rep of your choice.”
So it isn’t actually the right of the union to come in. It is the right of the person who’s got the problem with the employer to choose who comes in.
And if they choose a Workers of England Union rep, the employer has no right to resist that. Any decision to dismiss will be automatically unfair if that occurs. And so there are some teeth to that.
We had a quite amusing instance which I think demonstrates just how hopeless quite a lot of the HR human resources departments actually are. So we had a member who had difficulties with head office for Marks and Spencers. You might think Marks and Spencer would be an organization that would have a very efficient, knowledgeable, and proficient, HR department. But they reckon that they got a policy they wouldn’t allow any other unions other than those who had signed up to HR to be recognized. Sorry, Marks and Spencers, to be recognized.
And so obviously our rep pointed out that was wrong, read out the legislation and the person who was dealing with it was a full national board member. And they then rang the HR department who said that what they were saying was right. Again, he pointed out what the actual statute says. So she adjourned the hearing, went off and got legal advice. Of course, the legal advice was that we were right and their HR was wrong. She was absolutely livid about how incompetent their HR was! But the net result was we saved the members job.
But I suppose in a sense, what that shows is these things are as much about fighting, and arguing, about things and not giving up. Things don’t just sort of automatically fall into your lap. You’ve got to fight for it!
Mark Collett: Thank you. And Jonathan Hannah gave £10. Thank you so much. He said:
“Thank you very much for the stream, gentlemen. There are very many ethnos in Ireland, north and south. We see our country being destroyed by these parasites!”
Well, thank you for that observation.
Well, that is the end of the questions and obviously we’ve had a few technical struggles this evening, which is very, very unfortunate. Now, before we close things down, I’m going to say thank you to Robin, but also remind people that Robin did an entire two hour stream with me and Laura some time ago, on how to actually deal with the police. And he also helped with the preparation of our document “Don’t Say a Thing. How to Deal with the Police”, which can be downloaded from the Patriotic Alternative website.
So, Robin, I’m going to give you the last word, if you’d like to give yourself a little bit of an outro and one last plug for the Workers of England Union. I’ll also tell you that the link to Workers of England Union is in the description of this stream, and on all the replays. So you will be able to find the Workers of England Union there.
And I do recommend, please do go and join them. It’s a small amount of money per month, but if you are in a job that you think may, if you’re working for a company and you think you may end up in a sticky situation, these guys really are the best.
Robin, I’ll give you the final word before I close things down.
Robin Tilbrook: Well, I’m certainly going to agree that we’re the best! Thank you for saying so, [chuckling] Mark. We are, I think, not only the best, but we’re the only ones who are actually trying to fight for our members rights. And obviously, it is, in effect, an insurance policy to be a member of a trade union. You want to make sure that the insurance that you’re signing up to actually covers you for what’s likely to happen to you.
Whereas if you sign up for one of the so-called mainstream, TUC supporting trade unions, what you’re signing up for is giving money and resources and help to Labour. If that’s what you want to do, that’s fair enough. But if you actually want a union that is going to support you, then you need to join the Workers of England Union. And I would hope that you do so.
Could I just break off slightly, Mark, and ask if you did have the advert that we’ve had broadcast on GB News recently?
Mark Collett: I don’t, but I could pull it up as an outro, if you wish. Whereabouts can I find that?
Robin Tilbrook: I have sent it to you. Whether it’s easy to find or not, I’m not sure.
Mark Collett: I’m sure I can find it.
Robin Tilbrook: Let me see if I can get hold of it.
Mark Collett: Oh dear! I’m rapidly scanning my emails like the ill prepared buffoon, that I am. But no, I have found it. I have found it. Give me two seconds. I just got to save it to my desktop and then we will play out with that.
But before we do play out with that, I am going to say the following. Thank you to Robin, thank you to everyone who’s watched, thank you to everyone who donated so generously. And remember, we will be back on Sunday night for our film review of Dogville. It’s actually a very interesting film. It’s 3 hours long, it’s a bit of a monster! But it is a really, really interesting film. Definitely a lot to discuss there. And obviously we will also be back next week. PWR will feature Eric Striker and Monday will be Tea Time with Sam and Laura.
So I just like to say a huge thank you to Robin again. And we are going to play out tonight with the advert for Workers of England Union.
Thank you, everybody. I have really enjoyed this dream, despite the unfortunate technical errors. But remember, if you couldn’t watch it on Odyssey, you will be able to watch it on replay. Thank you. Good night and enjoy this advert.
GN News guest (male): The Covid Only Service, was that it was not Covid itself, but it was the policy responses. The fact that people with cancer, heart disease, stroke, we saw a lot of them go from stage one to stage four. We saw all different sorts of things from acute diabetes, even dentist issues. And what that meant was a huge backlog now, 7 million people waiting to get treatment on the NHS. We also saw that the vaccine mandate that was threatened to the NHS staff, which, by the way, where were the unions representing the NHS workers then?
There was only one, as it happened, the Workers of England Union. But that also put enormous pressure because we know that care workers were lost. So over 40,000 care workers were lost, which now we’ve got a situation where staff are under even more pressure on the front line because there’s people in beds that could be released that can’t go there.
I think we need to stop treating the NHS like a holy grail, like a deity. It was a remarkable contribution at the end of the Second World War. But it’s there to serve us. And I think I really concur with some of the things Renny was saying. I think it was Dr. David Wrigley that was saying that we’ve actually had a lot of investment going, but you get a lot of higher level management and bureaucrats doubling in size, and doubling in fees. Yet frontline staff at the coalface are not receiving that.
This is about organization and logistics. It’s about execution. I happen to think that everyone in Britain should get paid more. I think we can have wealth creation for all. I’m not in that whole dichotomy of either you get this or we get this taken away, but we have to have a rational way of engaging it. And not say:
“This is a diety and you can’t touch it!”
We see lots of issues going on with bureaucratic management. We’ve seen consistent policies that have had an impact. And I believe in the right for people to withdraw their labour. But actually what we’ve got to have is we’ve got to have an honest reckoning with this situation. We need to be able, the fact that the A&E services are so impacted because people aren’t seeing GPs. All of this needs to be approached from a macro level. And obviously the people on the front line, I think in Britain people have a normal, … [clip cut out]
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They are teating us like slaves. We need a RISING
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Why are names on BLOCK CAPITALS?
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Ask him if he is pro-LGBT, because there’s a load of pro-LGBT stuff on their website
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please provide a link?
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any views
on this one….. can someone refuse mandatory EDI training at work on the basis that they have protected philosophical beliefs as nationalists?
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@FellowAethelweard
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You brough a very important concern and subject here that I belive Robin and his team should look and study into legally defeating it making one self lawfully immune to its demands.
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@phantom_reborn
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thanks for saying that. appreciated. Mandatory diversity training in the form of an online module started this year at my place of work. I’m annoyed with myself because I didn’t choose to resist. Loads of people must be in the same situation as me. It would be great if there were some standard piece of advice on the legal position, which we could all use. For example: a standard letter expressing non-compliance would be really useful.
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@FellowAethelweard
15 hours ago
After watching the video i am thinking of joining this union despite detesting unions since i saw the modern types are now.
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@hungowapower
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Sometimes it looked like Mark was wearing a yarmulke 😂
Thanks for the advice guys!
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@BeerHallPooch
1 day ago
Nothing in Nature is equal.
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The System is so corrupt – but not with law, apparently?
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odysee is bankrupt from LBC
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@djh1697
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An independent union that is nothing to do with your employer is a massive bonus. The rep will challenge company policies, and use other arguments when representing you. I was in an independent union, which saved me from getting the sack. The retailer argued that the union could not come to the meetings, prior to the law was changed, but gave me valuable advice.
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@FellowAethelweard
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Robin what would be your legal advice for self defence law tactics against home invasion so that you as the home resident do not get prosecuted by the same hand in the law?
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Outstanding.
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spamming “Shush” is no real drama. They weren’t organised or saying anything illegal or attack people.
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I was trying to delete them on DLive but you got them quicker than I could
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Oh well, we managed it. That’s the most important thing. The show must go on.
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I’ve never known it that bad tbh
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no
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Have you see those spam attacks before?
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That bugle is suspect?
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Fair play to GB News
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I say don’t talk to cops… but I have talked my way out of a few tickets.
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Hail the workers! Join up
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No drama. Nothing illegal. Show’s over anyway
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it sort of ruins the chat a bit, oh well
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Only bots saying “shush” no drama
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too late now. The vid will be removed after the show
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Look at DLive right away, we’re getting Bot spammed
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^^
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The time is way over due, that we stop living this lie
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Canada as well give tax breaks to companies that import workers.
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the question was could they then fire you because you’re not in line with this
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most grad jobs say they value diversity and inclusion at the very first step
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not true
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Objectively, it’s the other way around. The UK is under Common Law; Europe is under Napoleonic law where man his to prove his innocence .
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Innocent until proven guilty, in the UK its guilty until proven otherwise it seems.
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UK Terrorism Acts
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wow, BC is screwed up.
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ideally yeah, the first step (even if it seems mild) would be imo to deport anyone who acts up (unruly or violently). Might seem a more palatable for normies to get on board.
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, No mercy, they all have to go back!
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yeah fair enough wrecked
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I say deport all poc’s
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Need to send a message to those who wish to immigrate, behave or get deported.
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Not only deport illegals but deport anyone who commits crimes.
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)))they((( have tried to break us up for centuries
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Rookie Numbers
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..skills
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What does that say about mothers cooking?
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Poor Mark
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, The Natural Order, is thier eternal enemy!
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(((thier))) “equality act”
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HAIL the workers!
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I don’t know how they could stand it. Perhaps they’ve seen the light.
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Anarchists must be having a wet dream at the demise of the West and the State.
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Race grifters
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Part 1 of the video I mentioned
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ZERO prosecution for council tax avoidance
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Which names? Where?
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Don’t talk to cops <–Good Wisdom
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There was a video on Youtube of a court being filmed. The defence presented a birth certificate for the accused of non payment of Council Tax. The court was abandoned cos they couldn’t prosecute.
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Professor from Virginia, Don’t Talk to the Police video (for American law)
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No one talks, everyone walks. :thumbs_up:
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Same as america. say nothing to them.
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A true labor leader never takes a vacation! 🙂
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Stream is working for me now.
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@CrankyCracker2
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change settings to 480p. worked for me
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Redfearn v. The United Kingdom, Human rights victory for BNP bus driver
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dlive is fine tho
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odysee buffering..
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1 day ago
HR hens
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@0KT0BER
1 day ago
indeed
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1 day ago
If buffering, watch here but chat on Ody
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1 day ago
“Who fights may lose, but who does not fight has lost already.” ~ Bertolt Brecht
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1 day ago
evening
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evening all
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
dont seem to be loading up
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You’re welcome
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1 day ago
thnaks
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1 day ago
Just got here, not working
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1 day ago
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Been working like a charm until tonight!
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1 day ago
on and off
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stream working for everyone recently?
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1 day ago
uo
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@tiswas
1 day ago
Unions have agreed to let temp workers , work while perms are on strike !!!! work it out !!
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1 day ago
Galloway !!!! are you sure ?
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1 day ago
Ask Robin if anyone can set up a Union..
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
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@BeerHallPooch
1 day ago
Unions need to defect from Labour and support Galloway
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
https://dlive.tv/LauraTowler
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@Identitarian
1 day ago
or going into apprenticeship
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1 day ago
is it worth doing a levels
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1 day ago
stream not loading for me, anyone have any suggestions?
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1 day ago
yo
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1 day ago
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@PopcornPower
1 day ago
Going to dlive. Odysee is just failing too much for me today.
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👉 HOW TO DEAL WITH THE POLICE – With Robin Tilbrook & Laura Towler
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1 day ago
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@PopcornPower
1 day ago
Funny. A refresh on my browser solved the buffering issue.
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
not playing for me either.
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@SchlomoZahnstein
1 day ago
Whats poppin homies :surprised:
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1 day ago
Doesn’t work for me even after refreshing.
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1 day ago
Refresh and it will work
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1 day ago
buffering, stream isn’t loading
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@tiswas
1 day ago
53 people watching ?? a real army !
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1 day ago
Its buffering for me so I’m off to DLive
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1 day ago
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Everything must be studies and discussed if we want to avoid defeats and set back.
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1 day ago
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@NativistWarning
1 day ago
Free man of the land, I remember watching a video of a guy saying he was one, never paid tax apparently!
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@BeerHallPooch
1 day ago
Nail McCrae from the Workers of England Union was recently on with Galloway. Great to see the false Left/Right dichotomy being smashed
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
buffering bad for me but Dlive is fine
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1 day ago
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@PopcornPower
1 day ago
What car? This is my sailing yacht!
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@tiswas
1 day ago
im still waiting for an apology from the english !!!
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1 day ago
I am a freeman of the land….
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
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1 day ago
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@BeerHallPooch
1 day ago
Hurts you by your response
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@tiswas
1 day ago
truth hurts dont it poochy boy
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@tiswas
1 day ago
why not
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1 day ago
Why bother then?
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@tiswas
1 day ago
but changed nothing
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1 day ago
^he says by talking
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1 day ago
talk will change nothing !!!!!
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1 day ago
Hi folks
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1 day ago
Nail McCrae from the Workers of England Union was recently on with Galloway. Great to see the false Left/Right dichotomy being smashed
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1 day ago
Hail the workers.
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