Monika Schaefer: All right. Good evening. Greetings far and wide. You are listening to the Republic Broadcasting Network. It is Saturday, the 22nd day of March, 2025. And this is episode 36 of The Flipside with Monika. I am your host, Monika Schaefer. Welcome to the show today.

So I would just like to send a shout out to last week’s program. Last week’s show we had a twofer, you could say a doubleheader with Blackbird 9 on his famous Saturday Snack Shack show preceding mine. And we did the two hours together with my brother Alfred. And you can find those shows in the archives. And yeah, we had a good time with that. And I would just like to remind the listener that this is a listener supported network and we just would like it if we could keep this network on the air. So if you can, please do consider supporting the network.

And if you are already a supporter, thank you so very much for supporting the network. And I’ll just give you the numbers. You can go to the website, of course, at RepublicBroadcasting.org, you can find all the information there. Various ways to either send cash or check in the mail. The address is there and here are the numbers that you could call, 512-246-9549, or toll free number 1-800-724-2719. Okay, now I have return. Okay, great, thank you.

So after the bottom of the hour, I will give out the numbers for if you would like to call in and join us in our conversation. I have a return guest today. His name is Jurgen Neumann and he came on in episode 15 and 18. If after you’ve listened to this one and you think, gee, I want to listen to the archives of the previous two shows, you can find them from last fall, episodes 15 and 18.

So his name is Jurgen Neumann and he was, I guess you could say, the right-hand man for Ernst Zundel or Ernst Zindl, if you pronounce it in German, for several decades. And Ernst Zundel [24 April 1939-5 August, 20017] is no longer with us. He died a few years ago, may he rest in peace. But I consider him to be an absolute giant in terms of having been a man who helped us along tremendously in our quest for truth about what actually happened during World War II. And the narrative about World War II, at least for my generation, and I would say for all of us, is probably the most distorted and lied about event in history. Everything was turned on its head and was really backwards.

I mean, the things I grew up with learning in school and through (((Hollywood))) and through the mainstream media is completely upside down and reversed from what actually happened. And Ernst Zundel did much to reveal that to the world.

And of course, for his efforts, he was persecuted, prosecuted, jailed, all those usual things. A great man who had so much to offer to the world. So in our first episode, we talked a little bit about his own awakening. Ernst Zundel, he didn’t know the truth about World War II until he was a grown man. He was born in 1939, so he was a war baby. He’s from Germany. He came to Canada as a young man. I think he was 18 or so.

And so, yeah, in episode one [15], we went through that, talking about his awakening and then some of the trials and tribulations. In our second episode [18] that we had last November, we continued with that. We talked about the Leuchter Report or Fred Leuchter who went to Auschwitz and did some actual investigation of the physical place there, and then his various trials and things that happen. So we really went into quite a lot of detail with that.

So today we would like to expand on some of the, I guess you could say, the epic work that Ernst Zundel did because there was so much that he did through the years.

So, first of all, greeting Jurgen Neumann. Are you there? Frank, did you say that you were able to pull him up?

Okay, so I guess I’ll just carry on until you do get him back on there.

So I’ll just tell you a little story. I pulled up a video from one of Jurgen’s online platforms. Not sure if it was on his Bitchute or Odysee channel. And it just randomly pulled up a video of Ernst Zundel addressing a crowd of people back in, I think it was in the early 1990s, I’m not sure. And I couldn’t find it just now to refresh my memory. But something really struck me, and it was quite amusing. In the first few minutes when he was greeting the large crowd in the room, and it was packed, I don’t know, maybe 50 people or so. he told the audience that a jew that he had been talking to before this talk, and I think he was talking mainly about Adolf Hitler in this talk, and the audience was mostly young people. And Ernst Zundel addressed that point and was so delighted that there were so many young people in the audience, because he says:

“Usually I’m speaking to a lot of gray hairs!”

So there were a lot of young people there. They were very interested to hearing Ernst Zundel talk. And then he told about what the jew had said. He said:

“Oh, you could do that, talk in a telephone booth.”

And Ernst says:

“Well, this is a mighty big telephone booth!”

And everybody, of course, roared with laughter.

Now, some of the young listeners to this show might not even get the reference to the telephone booth because we don’t see too many telephone booths out there in public anymore. [chuckling] But you might know from old movies and such, that was a pretty small thing that was on many street corners back in the day before everybody had a phone in their hand or in their pocket, you see. So yeah. Do you have our guest on the line yet? No! Maybe. Okay, no problem.

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So what we’re going to address today is radio, I think it was all by radio, perhaps Jurgen will correct me, it might have been with video as well, but it was called “Another Voice of Freedom” that Ernst Zundel did, these radio shows or these programs. And I think he carried that on for a number of years.

Oh, wonderful! Jurgen, are you there?

Jürgen Neumann: Yes, I am. After going through a jungle of static and all kinds of other stuff, looks like we’re clear and full speed ahead!

Monika Schaefer: We are good to go. So perfect timing. I just gave a little bit of an introduction, talked about our previous shows that we did, and then I told the little story about the phone booth that Ernst Zundel, you know, was told by this fellow that. Yes, so I told that story already. And then I just started talking about the fact that he did many programs on something called A Voice of Freedom. And I wasn’t even sure if that was just radio or if it was with visual as well. I’ll pass it over to you to tell us a little bit about that and maybe how many years he did that for this show called, Another Voice of Freedom.

Jürgen Neumann: Yes, we got into that when we got enough support to be able to get some reasonable consumer video equipment and audio equipment in order to make material that could be broadcast. And we started off with video TV broadcasting. Chose, Another Voice of Freedom as the title, and we started it in June 1993. So we decided to get our outreach out there, better than it was.

And so this is before the Internet was a big thing, and we certainly weren’t conversant with the Internet at all at that time. So therefore, we’re doing the best we can. And this was satellite broadcasting. Down in the US they have companies that will broadcast for you up on satellites. There’s old satellites that are floating around in space that no longer fit the needs of the people who originally put them up there and now they put up new ones. But the old ones are still kind of useful. So they sell these companies time on the satellites that are still useful at a cut rate.

And then we send them our material and then they will broadcast it on a given time. Usually it was on a Sunday evening. So that of course, once we started that first thing we do, Ernst did, was send copies of the programs to the media.

And of course they just, they were very excited about that one. So we got lots of interviews about that and newscasts about that they even showed clips of the videos that we sent them. And so it was quite a job. Eventually we ended up, I think we were broadcasting about 275 programs.

Monika Schaefer: Oh, wow!

Jürgen Neumann: A lot of work over a number of years. And of course our opposition, they got very upset. And within the first six months, [chuckling] I think they went to the broadcaster that we had at the time and they said, this is the way I understand it, right? The broadcasting facility of that company was burned to the ground! So consensus was it was probably because of Ernst. They contacted the broadcasting company and they said:

“Look, we don’t like this here. We want you to, basically to censor him. You shouldn’t be putting that on there. It’s hateful. It’s this, it’s that.”

And their reply was:

“Well, we don’t censor things. This is the United States. We have freedom of speech here. But tell you what, we will make a deal with you. If you like, you can make counter programs against him. And we will play it before his program or after his program or before and after his program. But we’re not going to censor.”

So therefore that’s probably why it had something to do with burning the place to the ground.

After that, anyway, we got another one and that worked out quite well. And then we also started doing radio programs as well at the same time. Our TV video broadcasts were like once a week, but the radio programs were like every day.

Monika Schaefer: Oh, wow!

Jürgen Neumann: So he had two programs. One was on an AM station and one was on an FM station right in the heartland of the U.S. It was quite a large reach.

And yeah, we were pouring out the material. I was the, of course, editor for the video parts of it, stuff. And we had another supporter who did all the audio stuff.

So yeah, we were going concerned for a long time, that’s for sure! I think we had for five or six hundred radio shows, I think. All this is like all half hour stuff, right. Et cetera. So yeah, it was really interesting. They were all wound up about that, needless to say.

Monika Schaefer: Oh, I’m sure they were! [chuckling]

Jürgen Neumann: And at about that time we had a lot of supporters down in the US and they have a thing down there called Public Access TV stations that they are required by law to have to allow local people to make content and broadcast content on their cable networks.

So a lot of them would contact us and request our shows. So we would mail them to them and they would broadcast them in their local communities. But it wasn’t all the same.

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Monika Schaefer: Oh, it wasn’t all the same. Go ahead. Sorry.

Jürgen Neumann: No, I mean like we were making half hour programs, right. But some of the public access stations, they didn’t broadcast half hour, they broadcast one hour. So there we had to re-edit stuff and maybe make something new just to fit the one hour slot. And all the formats were kind of different too. Some stations had regular VHS tapes, some used SVHS tapes, some used 3 quarter inch pneumatic tape.

So we had to get into all these different formats so we could fill the orders and they could broadcast all our material down there. So that was also a going concern. And they really got upset about that one too!

Monika Schaefer: You must have been working hard, Jurgen, because I understand that you were basically the guy who was really the tech guy and Ernst, you know, he was busy with the actual talking and that kind of thing. Right? I mean, you must have been really learning and working hard because this would have been a lot of new stuff for you?

Jürgen Neumann: Yeah, for some, yeah, it was pretty new. We were working an average of probably about 10 hours a day. And there for a while there when we were pumping a lot of material, we actually worked for about almost two weeks straight without a pause, about 12 hours a day.

So that was really something else. Certainly was happy when that was over. The big rush! Everybody putting it up. And then one of our supporters down in Canandaigua, New York, he had, they really came down on him a lot of the Holocaust lobby, I’ll call them, Shelley Shapiro and a bunch of these other, basically anti-revisionist jews who went down there and they put pressure on the station to cancel his broadcast and so on and so he was going to have a press conference and so Ernst went down there as part of the press conference and yeah, it was quite the thing.

They had police there, they had everything. One guy had a big boombox where he was cranking up some audio thing. I forget what it was offhand, but you know, trying to drown Ernst out from talking to the media and so on. Yeah.

So it took a better part of the day and the station actually got Ernst inside and interviewed him about that, what that was all about. That was nice to do that.

Monika Schaefer: Yes, of course! And it sounds like Antifa type of activities, doesn’t it? I mean these days that happens a lot with protests and then counter-protesters trying to scream louder or something so that nobody can hear the actual speaker. [chuckling] Yeah.

Jürgen Neumann: And if you want to know more about that incident, that’s in one of our another Voice of Freedom programs which you can find on my Bitchute channel. And it’s called. I forget the number of it, but it’s called Public Access and Freedom of Speech.

Monika Schaefer: So speaking of that, can people find all these, Another Voice of Freedoms on your Bitchute channel or your Odysee channel? Do you want to just tell people.

Jürgen Neumann: The BitChute channel is where the complete collection is on there.

It’s JohnRobinson101, all one word.

Monika Schaefer: Fantastic!

Jürgen Neumann: Yeah. So you can go through the whole works if you like. Lots of very good information on there.

Monika Schaefer: Indeed! It’s just heady times, I would say doing that. And just to put this into context for the listener, if you have aren’t fresh up on when things happened with Ernst Zundel and all his trials. The trials, the big Holocaust trials in Toronto, those were in 1985 and 1988. So this is after that.

[See: Andrew Hitchcock with Monika Schaefer on “Sorry Mom” — TRANSCRIPT]

So I think that’s absolutely fantastic that work that you both did! And yeah, so people can go and find those and listen to those and just there’s endless. You know, you can really learn a lot from those programs. You know the other thing that really caught my interest and we touched upon it in our last episode together that you and I did.

But then I started to learn a little bit more. And I’d like you to go into more detail about the Congress that Ernst Zundel organized in Germany called the Leuchter Congress. And things happened there [chuckling] made it very interesting. Can you get into that story, please?

Jürgen Neumann: Yes. It was by 1991. This is when the actual meeting took place. By that time Ernst has been on the wanted list for Germany, right. He’s a wanted man because of his revisionist activities. So they always after him, but that didn’t stop him. [chuckling] So he flew in somewhere else and then drove him to Germany. And he talked to all these people to organize this Congress.

Of course he wasn’t going to be officially part of it because otherwise he’d be arrested. But he was there anyway and helping them along. And it was one of the main organizers was a young man by the name of Ewald Aldhunt [sp].

And so they got this whole thing together and they got speakers like all lined up like for revisionism, had people like Fred Leuchter, right, which they named the whole Congress after him. And French revisionist Robert Faurisson, Swedish revisionist Ditlieb Felderer, and of course famous British author David Irving, who hardly needs any kind of introduction or anything.

And then there’s another gentleman German former judge by the name of Wilhelm Stäglich. He wrote, he was back in the day, he was, I think he was part of an anti-aircraft unit as a young man around in the Auschwitz area.

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[Image: Wilhelm Stäglich]

So anyway he wrote a book about that. And of course he had been retired at the time. So they took away, I think most of his pension and took away his judge credentials and all that, for that.

So it was all set up and it was on. It’s going to be in Munich in one of the big museums there. They had a big hall for rent, very big hall, perfect for our purposes. So we get there, everybody, you know, gets to Munich, we’re all set to go and wa laa, the last moment the hall cancels! Needless to say we were a little bit upset about that. Our lawyer, our main lawyer, Jurgen Rieger, he went in there and you know, needless to try to get them to change their mind stuff, but they weren’t having any of that.

Monika Schaefer: I’ll just jump in here Jurgen, because this is classic, absolutely classic tactic of our opponents! They knew that Congress was taking place. They could have said:

“No, you can’t do it here!”

They could have done that I’m sure a month ahead or even months ahead. But this is a classic tactic. I’m sure that other people have heard of events or been at events where the same thing happens.

I had it happen in Jasper, little town of Jasper where I organized a speaker event. And my downfall or the disadvantage was that I did have time to organize this. And so people knew well in advance. And the last day before this event happened they were going to cancel me. But I kind of managed to actually get the woman who was on the board of this church hall. I talked to her for over an hour and at the end she says:

“Monika, you are very persuasive!”

But I’m talking about a small town where [chuckling] I had known this woman for decades. You know, so!

But there was a big storm. We could not have had it outside at all! But yes, I’ve heard of big events in big places where that happens. But do carry on and tell the story. What happened next?

Jürgen Neumann: I mean, yeah, they just try to get you to waste your time and your money.

So anyway, so everybody was kind of:

“Okay, what are we going to do about this? Everybody’s here, all the people are here, etc.”

So it was decided that:

“Okay, heck, we’re just going to do it right out on the street in front of the museum!”

And of course all the police were there, etc.

And so we started off with a car where the speakers would come up and they would open the door and you’d stand up, you know where you get into the car, you stand on that, look over the roof of the car and speak to the crowd. And those who couldn’t speak German. Then Mark Weber from the IHR, California, he was there and he would translate from whatever the speaker was saying in English to German.

Monika Schaefer: Institute for Historical Review.

Jürgen Neumann: Yes, review.

Monika Schaefer: Continue.

Jürgen Neumann: Yeah, they have their own website, people can check that one out. They’re an excellent group to find all kinds of good solid intellectual information on these subjects. Plus they do a lot of political stuff.

Monika Schaefer: IHR.

Jürgen Neumann: Actually I think it might be IHR.org, okay, check both.

Monika Schaefer: But basically with the abbreviation IHR, not all spelled out is what you’re saying.

Jürgen Neumann: Yes, it’s just IHR.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, so people can find that. Okay, carry on.

Jürgen Neumann: After be talking for a while, Fred Leuchter got up and he initially wasn’t going to say much because who knows who’s going to get arrested for what. So eventually our lawyer who had been talking with the authorities came up to Leuchter and he said:

“Look, just been talking to the judges lawyer, showed him the Leuchter Report and they agreed that it was just a scientific report and we can’t censor scientific reports. So you’re allowed to talk about it.”

So he did. The crowd went wild. They were just great! Everybody loved it!

And so after a bit of course it was decided that this car is not good enough. So somebody went out quickly and rented a truck, flatbed truck, and they brought that up and so all the speakers and everybody got up on the truck, so it was much better. Everybody could see you and everybody could hear you better. We had a sound system up, better sound system on the truck and so on. So it worked out very well. There was a like back in the day the Leftists in Germany were nasty to the point of being terrorists.

But the only Leftists that showed up on that day was about half a dozen of them in a bus, in a regular street bus, who went by holding signs up in the bus.

So everybody got a laugh out of that. Obviously they’re not what they used to be.

So, yeah, it was a very exciting day and a lot was said and a lot was done. And then something happened. After it was over, we all went to the various beer halls and stuff, restaurants, got together and so Ernst showed up for that. And not long after that, somebody said something to the authorities because the authorities came in and they arrested him. They found him and they arrested him.

Monika Schaefer: Oh my goodness!

Jürgen Neumann: Yes. So they took him away to jail, etc. So that was kind of not the best of all things. [chuckling]

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Monika Schaefer: Remind us what year this was.

Jürgen Neumann: 1991.

Monika Schaefer: Okay.

Jürgen Neumann: Then he negotiated his way out of there. They said:

“Okay, well, you’re going to be charged with anti-Holocaust activities and so on. Denying the genocide of the jews.”

And so on, which is a law in Germany, right. So what you can get, I think they had a maximum of five years, for that. So eventually they put him on parole because he said:

“Yeah, okay.”

Not parole:

“But you can leave, but you have to come back for trial.”

So they thought he would do that, and he would do that because, oh yeah, there’s a big chance he wanted to try to organize a Leuchter type trial in Germany. So he was all good with that.

And about that particular issue, his trial and so on, there are videos of it up on my channel, Ernst Zundel in Munich, Munich trial in German and in English, where he talks about all that. So I’m not really going to get into that. I haven’t really brushed up on that particular thing. But if you want to see hear more about it, you can go there or we can do another show on it at some point.

Monika Schaefer: Yeah. And we will come back after these messages. Thank you.

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Monika Schaefer: All right. Welcome back to The Flipside with Monika on the Republic Broadcasting Network.

So before the break, Jurgen Neumann, our guest, was telling us about this Leuchter Congress in Munich, I think it was in Munich. Did I get that right?

Anyway, in Germany in 1991, and exciting things were happening, and then he ended up being arrested and went to jail. How long did he go to jail for? He was let out pretty quick. Oh, yes, you said he was let out on the promise that he was going to be back for trial. Do you want to just carry on with that story?

And then we do have a caller on the line. He’s been waiting very patiently for a while, which is wonderful! Oh, and actually, I did forget to do that, is give the calling numbers if you’d like to join the conversation.

So I’ll just do that first and then Juergen, if you could tell the rest of that story and then we’ll start with callers.

So the number is 512-2488252 or 1-800-313-9443. Okay. Over to you, Jurgen.

Jürgen Neumann: Well, I must confess that I hadn’t brushed up on that story. So as I’m sitting here right now, my memory says:

“Well, can’t think of a whole lot but say about it at this moment.”

I just did mention [word unclear], but if we were going to ever do another show, I would brush up on it and we can get into some details.

Monika Schaefer: Oh, no problem!

Jürgen Neumann: Flopping around like a fish out of water wouldn’t work very well right now.

Monika Schaefer: Oh, God!

Jürgen Neumann: I would like to say one thing.

Monika Schaefer: Yes, go [chuckling] ahead.

Jürgen Neumann: I would like to say to me one of the final things about the Leuchter Congress that reflected in my life afterwards. And that was later on that year. This took place in March. So a few months later on, I was visiting my mother. And while I was there, the mail came. And in her mail was a copy of National Geographic. She’s never ordered National Geographic. She never reads it. So this was a mistake. This actually was addressed to somebody else on a different street, maybe six or eight blocks away. But it showed up in her place. Well, I thought:

“Just for fun, let’s have a look at it.”

So I pulled it out of the wrapper. And I had just started paging through it and lo and behold, what do we see? We see that National Geographic had been in Germany at that time of the Leuchter Congress. They were doing a thing about Germany and about the political situation and so-called Right-wing neo-Nazis, all that kind of stuff.

So they actually had part of their article on the Leuchter Congress. And they had a big picture, a big picture of that truck and the people standing on the truck talking. And on the truck, also on the left hand side of the picture was yours truly, me with the camera!

Monika Schaefer: Hey!

Jürgen Neumann: You couldn’t really see my face, the camera was covering it. But there I was.

And so I pointed it out to my mom and she was really excited:

“Wow, that’s cool!”

She never got another National Geographic, before or since!

Monika Schaefer: Yeah, into the National Geographic. That’s fantastic! That National Geographic magazine was meant to come into your hands even though it was mis-delivered. Yes, that’s wonderful, wonderful!

So we had Johnny from Michigan, but I guess he dropped off.

But we do have a caller, Joe in Florida. Are you there? Would you like to join our conversation, ask a question or give a comment on anything about Ernst Zundel or ask Jurgen a question, anything you want. Welcome.

[40:58]

Joe: Yes, Monika, thank you for taking my call. And greetings to Jurgen. Yeah, just a quick thing I want to say.

So thank you, Monika and Jurgen, for keeping the memory of this great man, Ernst Zundel alive. The other day recently I don’t know, Candace Owen, very kind of big, very popular blogger now she’s doing her pieces on the Hoaxicost is what I call it. And the lie of those events. And I just can’t help but think that, it’s Ernst that did the great groundwork. I mean he would be very proud.

But it’s on his amazing work that now it’s basically going mainstream. The lies that they built. I just wanted to say that thank you both for keeping his memory alive. And then Jurgen, the real question I wanted to ask you a question was. So among the things that jews like to do is to promote the idea that they’re all still peaceful people, but there can be very violent. And among the things they can be violent with this there preferential is bombing. We saw the King David Hotel, right? Jewish terrorists bombing people!

So tell us about, if you can, how it was that Ernst was really the first, one of the first victims of this bombing in Toronto. And am I right in thinking they bombed his house, which was a residence, or exactly how, where, was that a place that he worked out of but tell us what you can remember about that terrible incident.

Jürgen Neumann: Okay. Talking about bombings and stuff, as far as I’m aware, when it comes to revisionists, the very first bombing was in France, I think it was 1965. Maybe a French revisionist by the name of François Duprat. Him and his wife were going out. They got into their car, turned the key, and there was a car bomb. And it blew up and killed him and took off her legs below the knee. So that’s first one, and probably worse for revisionist terrorism.

[See also: Jewish Militants: Fifteen Years, and More, of Terrorism in France]

Now come up to 1984. And we are at Ernst Zundel building. Okay. So what it is, or what it was, really was his, number one, was when he first got it, he was an artist. And so he made it, he had his business, commercial art, and then he was also fine art painted. He was the most prolific artist in Canadian history. Actually sold over 600 paintings.

Joe: Wow!

Jürgen Neumann: And so he had his gallery on the main floor and his commercial art business in the back. And upstairs he had the usual living quarters. That’s his home, dining room, kitchen, bedrooms, stuff like that. So, yeah, it was a combination of our work environment plus his home.

Actually, as it turned out, I ended up staying there with him for a decade or two. I’d stay there basically during the week and then go home on weekends and stuff. So that’s basically what the building was.

So 1984, there was a bit of an explosion we had. And it turns out at the back, by his garage door, they had set off a bomb, pipe bomb, as the police discovered, you know, told us about later, a pipe bomb. So it blew up the garage door and actually sent splinters all around the neighborhood, damaged cars and stuff. If anybody was walking by and been hit by those splinters, they could have been fatal. Not that they care, of course.

So that was the first one. But what was interesting about it was the police said:

“Oh, yeah, we’re investigating, etc.”

After a week had gone by, or 10 days ago by nothing. We hadn’t heard anything. So Ernst contacted the police. And the one officer was very honest about it. He said:

“No, we’re not investigating, actually. We think that you did it yourself for publicity.”

Monika Schaefer: Wow!

Jürgen Neumann: So, yeah, well, I was right. Okay, fast forward to 1995. About the anniversary of Victory in Europe Day, May 1995. Ernst was off on a speaking tour, Western Canada way. And I was holding fort there. And where I sleep is in, it’s a long building, right. Not wide, but deep.

So I was sleeping in the back on the second floor beside the washroom, my little bedroom. And I’m lying there in the neighborhood in which we were located, it’s called Cabbagetown. And always a lot of weird stuff happening. There’s a lot of weirdos in that area and stuff. So it’s not unusual to hear all kinds of interesting things happening.

But anyway, I was sleeping and suddenly I woke up. And I mean woke up just like snap of the finger from asleep to totally wide awake! And I thought:

“Wow, what’s that?”

So I’m lying there for a second, wondering, and I hear way in the back, some very low voice called “Fire!” So I thought:

“Oh, yeah, a bunch of, … I wonder what’s going on in the neighborhood tonight?”

So I lie there for a little longer. And then The Voice gets louder, it gets closer:

“Fire! Fire!”

I thought:

“Oh, no, I better go have a look.”

So I get up, and when I step out of the out of my bedroom, I can look down the length of the house, the second floor, right into the kitchen. And the kitchen has a big window out on the street. And here’s flames rising up above the second floor window.

Joe: Wow!

[Image: TORONTO, ON, 206 Carlton St., Ernst Zundel’s house on May 7, 1995, showing the aftermath of the fire there]

Jürgen Neumann: That’s what the fire is about. All right, so I ran up forward a little bit, grabbed a phone, but that one had already burned out for that one.

So I went downstairs and I got another phone and phoned you know, 9/11. And they said:

“Oh, yeah, oh yeah, no problem. Don’t worry about it.”

They said:

“Other people have already called in, so everybody’s on their way.”

I said:

“Okay, great!”

So I started getting myself together, getting stuff. I’m going to leave the house, right? I hear this pounding at the side door. So I go over the side door, and all it is kind of a regular framed wooden door. It’s got a couple of hooks and that’s it. And the fire department’s out there and they can’t get through this door.

So anyway, I go out and unhook it, and they come in:

“Oh, are you alone here?”

“Yep, I’m alone.”

“Well, you know, get out this fire. We gotta go!”

I said:

“No, I’ll leave when I’m ready.”

They said:

“No, you have to leave.”

I said:

“No.”

Monika Schaefer: Good for you!

Jürgen Neumann: :

“And when I’m ready, I will leave.”

Because I still had a couple of things I wanted to do. So I quickly packed up the last of the things and then I left. Oh, I did phone. Make one more phone call. One of our supporters lived about three, four blocks away. And this is about five in the morning. So I phoned him and I said:

“If you want some excitement, Ernst’s house is on fire, so come on over!”

Then I went outside and away. Eventually other people came up, our supporters, they came up to see what was going on, etc. And he showed up eventually and he said:

“Well, he said, boy, your voice was really calm for what’s going on.”

So we’re sitting there or we’re standing there. I was talking to one of the fire-fighters and we were talking about response time, you know how you get there fast. And he said:

“It doesn’t really matter how fast we get here.”

I said:

“What do you mean by that?”

He said:

“We can’t touch it until Toronto Hydro comes and turns off the hydro, so that we don’t get electrocuted with water touching the electricity. So they actually have to be here first.”

I said:

“Oh, okay.”

So we’re standing there waiting and a man comes up to me and says:

“Are you one of the people from the house?”

I said:

“Yes.”

He said:

“Well, I saw the whole thing.”

I said:

“Oh, really?”

He said:

“Yeah, I’m in the store next door to us.”

Somebody had broken their plate glass window.

And so he was there replacing the window. And he said the man walked past him with his container of flammable liquid. He saw him walk. I mean, he could have reached out and touched him as he walked by. So he walked up to the house, poured the liquid on there and a trail out, which he lit up and away it went. And then he walked past him again.

I said:

“Oh, so you’d be willing to talk to the police?”

He said:

“Sure. That’s why I’m still waiting here.”

“Okay.”

So I went and told the police:

“Hey, we’ve got an eyewitness!”

The guy waited another hour and a half and then he had to go because he had other business to do. And the police never did talk to him.

Monika Schaefer: Unreal!

Joe: Unbelievable! Yeah.

Jürgen Neumann: So that was that one.

And then about a month later, it was about that, maybe a little longer, maybe two months later, got a package in the mail. It was a brown box, basically, reasonably light.

And so I brought it in, mailman brought it in, and Ernst looked at it, looked at, and he’s getting, he’s very sharp man, experience. He says:

“Okay, everybody, nobody touched this. Something I don’t like about this.”

It’s addressed to him. It’s got a return address out in British Columbia. So, okay. So he put it on the shelf. And the way we went about our business, except me being a foolish man at the time, I couldn’t resist. I went over and picked it up when nobody was around, shook it a little bit. Very foolish!

But anyway, I didn’t hear anything, didn’t feel anything. Put it back. This one.

So eventually a fellow phoned Ernst and it was one of our supporters from out west BC. So he asked him about the PO Box address and he said:

“Oh, that was an address I used to have a couple of years back. So obviously somebody else is using it, blah, blah, blah.”

So this is suspicious. So we took the box down to the police station, told them it might be a bomb. They freaked out!:

“It might be a bomb! And you brought it here! What’s the matter with you?”

Anyway, they cleared out the area around the station by about three blocks. So they took it and eventually they took it down to the bomb disposal place where they set it off. And they got back to us and said:

“Yeah, it was a bomb.”

And it was set to go off when the package was opened. Having done so, it would have killed everybody within 100 meters.

Joe: Unbelievable!

Jürgen Neumann: Very powerful!

So that was the explosive encounters that we had.

Joe: Unbelievable! Thank you Jurgen and [word unclear] tell me to say thank you. So Ernst is a true hero, right? In other words, he was one of the free speech pioneers and they obviously tried repeatedly to kill him and he stood his ground.

So thank you, Monika, for this show, keeping his memory alive, because he is a real hero and it’s great to see if only he ived long enough to see that what his efforts really are paying off where people can speak truthfully about history. Thank you.

Monika Schaefer: Joe, I really appreciate. Yeah, I really appreciate that you called. That was an excellent call with these questions. And those stories are incredible! Thank you so much! Thank you again. And yes, we do intend to keep Ernst Zundel’s memory alive.

And I’m gonna do a shout out to Katana who encouraged me to do exactly that. And that did prompt me to call you up, Jurgen, or to write to you and say:

“I’m gonna have you on regularly. Like maybe every couple of months we’re gonna do another show on Ernst Zundel because there are very many things to talk about.”

So a shout out to Katana. He has a website, katana17.com. His specialty is making transcripts out of videos, or out of talk shows, or things that are in audio form, he turns into transcripts quite a lot. And his website is excellent! Has a lot of resources there. I would encourage everybody to visit that website again. That’s katana17.com. And katana with a ‘k’ and just like it sounds, so just another.

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Joe: God bless you, Monika.

Monika Schaefer: Okay, bye bye. Joe, thank you so much!

Joe: Thanks. Jurgen too. God bless.

Jürgen Neumann: Bye bye,

Monika Schaefer: Bye bye. Jurgen, something else about those attacks and who, … Somebody claimed responsibility for at least one of them, did they not? Do you know about that? Didn’t a jewish, …

Jürgen Neumann: 1984 one? Some kind of jewish, I don’t know, it was a very convoluted name anyway. But yeah, it was some jewish organization that claimed responsibility for the 84 bomb.

But what was interesting is that one thing that not too many people know about that. Around the beginning of the 1985 trial, as it was just about to get underway, Ernst was approached by the RCMP, which is the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. And they gave him a folder and they said:

“We have information that seems that there’s an assassin. An assassin has been put on a case to assassinate you. It’s a foreigner who’s going to be coming into Canada, or might already be here. And it’s a woman. And so you should be careful and on the lookout.”

And in the folder they had a picture of her even:

“So that if you can recognize her, everybody should look at the picture and if you see you’re wandering around or something, you know what’s going on.”

So that was nice of them to do that.

[Image: Police image of Merchant assassin]

Monika Schaefer: Wow, isn’t that something?

And yet the contrast to the police not being interested seemingly in talking to the eyewitness at the later episode. I think that was the later up episode. And then also just, yeah, they didn’t seem to want to uncover this or they didn’t seem to want to help Ernst Zundel. You know, this slow response, what not. I just find that quite interesting.

But good that they did warn him and good on Ernst Zundel that these things did not stop him from carrying on with his epically important work. And it was always his intention to restore the honor of Germany and the German people once he realized what had happened with the lies and deceptions.

But we don’t have a lot of time left. I want to pass it back to you. Do you want to tell people where they can find your channels? We did already talk about the Bitchute channel. John Robinson 101. I do believe you have an archive also. Do you want to talk about that, please? Where do people find your work?

Jürgen Neumann: Okay, yes, on Bitchute, you might call it my flagship channel. It’s called JohnRobinson101, and it is all videos. And I have about, I’m guessing about 500 Ernst videos on there. Want to look at it? But I have well over a thousand videos.

And so it’s not just material about Ernst, but there’s material from other sources about subject matter that would be of interest to all of our people and all people who are interested in different points of view on various documentaries. I even have culture on there. I’ve got some classical music, orchestras playing and so on. Everything that may be a interest to us and help for us, I have on there.

Now on archive.org I have, I had a couple of other channels and they’ve been kind of deleted in the meantime.

But finally, of the two that have been deleted, I finally figured out that maybe the problem there was is that I had a lot of material about Holocaust revisionism and Ernst Zundel. So I figured, okay, I’ll start another channel on there and stay away from those directly.

And so I started a PDF channel called Researcher_PDF and it’s all books and David Irving books, pamphlets, all kinds of stuff. That’s interest on history of our point of view, that’s a good one.

Monika Schaefer: That’s on archive.org is it?

Jürgen Neumann: Yes.

Monika Schaefer: Okay.

Thank you so much for joining us again. Jurgen Neumann, and we will talk to you again next week. Thank you very, very much, all the listeners and the caller and the producer. Thank you all. Bye bye.

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(Comments as of 3/24/2025 = 4)

kati
March 23, 05:21
Here my favorite of Ernst Zuendel, all episodes of his “german holocaust” in one big video file, i sure listened them 10+ times, as german alot new things.
https://archive.org/details/ernst-zundel-the-german-holocaust-the-complete-collection-parts-1-34

kati
March 23, 05:25
All Samisdat episodes of Ernst Zuendel, about 300 maybe, are sure on Archive org too, or easier to watch on Odysee, this link you will have all episodes https://odysee.com/@ErnstZundelVideos:8

kati
March 23, 05:39
I linked the Odysee, here, i cannot watch Jürgens Bitchute here in germany, it gets geoblocked cause of the content against our laws, but the Odysee channel is not blocked.
Im avoiding bitchute in general now, too much blocked in germany and the ads are annoying.

kati
March 23, 05:48
Micheal Collins Piper told me alot about Mark Weber, its now silenced but Weber took shekels to let nationalist books out of print, you can hear the story on Pipers podcasts over several episodes. I asked a friend of Piper, the one who runs now FTJ if the story is true, he said yes.
So im careful to recommend Mark Weber now, sure the IHR is not to blame, its jsut Webers doing long ago, maybe 2 decades ago. I think “Silesias Inferno” is one of the books he run out of print, i got the german version here, its witness reports from what the red army did in Silesia/Schlesien, its the most graphic book i ever read and i had to pause a day after most reports. You can still buy the english version sure, for a good price. The german version is cheaper, from 1966 i think and not printed anymore, noone would print that now, i paid 2€ for it.

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