Red Ice TV – Bondi Beach Shooting & White Australia with Thomas Sewell – Dec 17, 2025 – Transcript

 

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White Australia with Thomas Sewell

 

Wed, Dec 17, 2025

 

[In this live stream video Thomas Sewell from White Australia joins Henrik to talk about the effort to take back Australia, the Bondi Beach shooting and the political aspirations of White Australia party.

Points discussed include:

The shooting occurred during a Hanukkah celebration at Bondi Beach on December 14th [2025].
The attackers were a father and son duo, one of whom was born in Australia to an Indian father and Italian mother.
The son had converted to Islam and received religious training; he was also linked to ISIS.
The attackers allegedly targeted jews specifically, though many others were injured.
“We’re surprised it doesn’t happen more often,” said Sewell, referencing Muslim rhetoric in Australia.
Sewell says Muslims in gyms and job sites often express extreme anti-Jewish views.
He criticises conspiracy theories suggesting the attack was staged or fake.
“Sometimes Muslims just kill people,” dismissing Mossad-related theories.
He says the jewish event was not random—it was advertised and attended by prominent Zionists.
Arsen Ostrovsky, an Israeli human rights lawyer, was present at the event.
Sewell notes Ostrovsky arrived in Australia weeks earlier to “fight anti-semitism.”
The father was killed during the attack; the son was recently brought out of a coma.
Some Aussies tried to intervene and were mistakenly targeted by police.
Sewell contrasts police response to White nationalists vs. Muslim terrorists.
“If you’re a White nationalist, they pull the gun out on you immediately.”
Female police officers on the scene were ineffective and had “mental breakdowns.”
Sewell describes the police as cowardly and unprepared for real violence.
He criticises the Australian government for focusing on “Nazis” instead of real threats.
The shooter was on a watchlist since 2019 but still obtained a gun licence.
“He joined a Serbian hunting club to get the licence,” Sewell explains.
Sewell criticises ASIO (Australian Security Intelligence Organisation) for neglect.
He says ASIO fired 10 senior Counter Terrorism staff in 2019 in a “Red Wedding.”
The shooting is being used as a pretext to increase surveillance on Right-wing groups.
Media and politicians are using the event to attack White nationalists, not Muslims.
Sewell says the jewish community is pushing hard for political consequences.
He argues Australia’s multiculturalism has failed and is a direct cause of the attack.
“We don’t want jews or Muslims in Australia.”
He blames both communities for bringing foreign conflicts to Australian soil.
The shooter legally owned a bolt-action rifle, a type common in Australia.
Gun laws in Australia are strict, especially for political dissidents.
Sewell used to own firearms but sold them to avoid being raided.
He describes how police use gun inspections as a pretext to search homes.
The government recently decriminalised the ISIS flag while banning Nazi symbols.
Sewell says the government is pushing “social cohesion” as a propaganda term.
Multiculturalism has led to ethnic enclaves and White flight in urban areas.
“Social cohesion” is code for suppressing dissent and maintaining control.
The Labor Party relies on Muslim and Indian votes and won’t criticise Islam.
The Liberal Party is collapsing, and the jewish lobby is shifting support to One Nation.
Sewell believes the political system is fracturing and ripe for disruption.
The NSN is launching a political party: White Australia.
Four core policies: 1) Restore the White Australia Policy, 2) End debt slavery, 3) Bill of Rights, 4) Reindustrialisation.
Policy 1 includes mass deportations and reversing demographic changes.
Policy 2 would eliminate interest on home loans and refund paid interest.
Policy 3 includes free speech, gun rights (Swiss model), and low taxes.
Policy 4 focuses on economic autarky, national infrastructure, and high-tech industry.
“We want to give Australians a sense of purpose again,” Sewell says.
The party is already gaining traction and could become the 6th largest in Australia.
Sewell expects resistance but believes the system will expose itself if it tries to block them.
He emphasises the importance of community, discipline, and rejecting black-pill attitudes.
“Don’t associate with pessimists. They’re poison,” he warns.
NSN is intergenerational, with children of members now joining.
The movement is growing through fitness, activism, and social cohesion among Whites.
Sewell concludes: “We’re going to win!”

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Henrik Palgren: And welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for tuning in here. I’m Henrik. Glad to have you with us here on Red Ice today. If watching live on Rumble X Twitter, Red Ice TV, Red Ice members, however you’re tuning in, thank you for being here.

 

So, yes, we obviously are going to follow up on the topic we covered a little bit yesterday in terms of the shooting down at Bondi beach in Australia. We have Thomas Sewell back on the show today to cover this. Not only, of course, what’s happened with the shooting, the potential political fallout from this, but there’s other issues, of course, happening. It is interesting, though, because this has been called basically “an intelligence failure” by the Australian, you know, intelligence services, ASIO [Australian Security Intelligence Organization], I think it’s shortened. As and they’ve been observing obviously the National Socialists, all the Nationalists in Australia, they’re the ones kind of under scrutiny. They’re the ones being investigated, they’re the ones being followed around, arrested, all these things, right?

 

And then you have this blatant, kind of hole here. We will get into whether or not this is intentional. Did they drop the guard? What’s really happening? I have a lot of questions, as always. As you should, I think, which is healthy around these events and how it’s being used.

 

But it’s clear just on the official level, if you look at it, what they’re saying that this is. Obviously this is a massive failure then in the sense of not observing the actual terrorists in the country like this. Well, first of all, he was Pakistani. Then they’re coming back and saying now he was originally born in India, but who cares? What’s the difference? Right? So, Tom Sewell, welcome back. Good to see you again. How are you?

 

Thomas Sewell: Good, thanks. Thank you for having me on the show again. And yes, it’s been eventful as always. There’s plenty to talk about and very exciting times ahead. A lot of controversy. Did you want to start with Bondi first?

 

Henrik Palgren: I think. So why don’t we clear, well, it’s not just clearing it off the plate. It’s such a big thing. It’s really the main story we should lead with here, obviously. I’m not sure we have to reiterate it, but obviously, yes, we had a shooting on the 14th Australian time then. So it’s on the 14th, December 14th. And obviously, yeah, just explain what you, what your initial kind of, I guess, you know, way that you view this is not strange. We knew that this is like “part and parcel” now of being in a multicultural, multiracial country like Australia has been turned into against all of our desires. But still, were you surprised by this?

 

Thomas Sewell: No, absolutely not! And myself and most of the leadership of the organization have commented that we’re surprised that it doesn’t happen more often and that it took this long considering the rhetoric we’ve experienced from Muslims in Australia over the past couple years.

 

And I’m not just talking about rhetoric in terms of the Palestinian protests in the city every week. I’m talking about just everyday Muslims that you might come across on job sites or if you train at a commercial gym, whether it be a fighting gym, or a lifting gym. The rhetoric out of Muslims has been very extreme! Like we would call it Fed postie. We don’t get away with that kind of rhetoric.

 

But it’s just commonplace within the Muslim community to sort of talk about and advocate for this sort of stuff. So yeah. Where do you want to go with this? I can go into more detail.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, so we talked about it yesterday a little bit as well, obviously of the shooters and everything else. And first of all, do you trust what you’re hearing from the police and the mainstream government sources on this?

 

[04:04]

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, I don’t. As a general rule, I don’t trust the police and the mainstream media. But this is something that’s too big to fool.

 

I mean, there were thousands, … I mean, there’s a lot of Americans sharing kind of schizophrenic conspiracy theories about it. There’s a few odd videos that I do admit there’s a few videos that look, the guy was probably just missing his shots. I don’t think he was shooting blanks. There’s a whole bunch of schizo theories out there. Most people don’t know how populated Bondi [pronounced bond-eye] beach is in Sydney, Australia.

 

So most Americans, they can’t fathom that this happened at the most populated place in Sydney, like almost more populated than the CBD. If you’ve ever been a Bondi beach, there are just potentially tens of thousands of people there are thousands and thousands of witnesses. Yeah, I really dislike the way that so many people on the dissonant right are trying to transmute this into some sort of conspiracy theory. Sometimes Muslims just kill people!

 

Henrik Palgren: So strange1 No!

 

Thomas Sewell: And in this case, they very obviously targeted a jewish event. A predominantly jewish. Well, not a predominantly jewish event. A jewish event that had maybe a couple hundred people attend. But again, it was at a beach where there’s tens of thousands of Aussies and tourists.

 

I mean, I’ve parked my car literally by that bridge. Like, when I’ve gone to Sydney, I’ve visited Bondi Beach, I don’t know every second time that I’ve gone to Sydney, so probably 20 or 30 times over my life. And I’ve parked my car at that very spot. I know exactly where that is. You know, where that big, surf house is, the big clubhouse there. You have lunch just on the other side of the road from that shooting.

 

So it was recognizable immediately. The reaction from the police was to be expected. It was typical. I mean, seeing the police just take so long to react, that’s pretty common in Australia. If you’re a White nationalist, they’ll pull the gun out on you like the millisecond. [chuckling] I think they rev themselves up when they come to your house. I think the police in Australia are a bit different to the police in America. They’re not sort of combat aware, they’re not psychologically trained to deal with these sort of scenarios.

 

Whereas I think in America the threat level of gun violence is so high, or at least they’re trained to expect a high level of gun violence. Whereas in Australia, the police don’t have any balls unless they’ve got like two hours to psychologically prepare for kicking your door in. Because every time I’ve had issues with police, you know, there’ll be 10 or 20 of them and they already have the guns out and they’re ready to shoot you while you’re trying to answer your door.

 

But when there’s an actual active shooter situation, I mean, they’re just hiding behind cars and you saw like two of the female police officers have mental breakdowns. It was just really embarrassing.

 

What else? I mean, yeah, my understanding was that, sorry, I’ll let you go. There’s so much to cover.

 

Henrik Palgren: So of course we had Arsen Ostrovsky coming out early. And of course this is one of the reasons why I had questions about it I mean, he literally came to Australia. He said in the clip here we could play it in a moment, but like three weeks ago to fight anti-semitism, and this was heightened. The whole jewish community has allegedly like, warned that this was going to happen. There was a number of posts from the Australian jewish Association. They were talking about this was very foreseeable and stuff like that. And of course I’m gonna say:

 

“Yeah, they’re probably right.”

 

Because they’re knowing what’s happening here. Right?

 

Thomas Sewell: And it’s very foreseeable because you have an ongoing war between Zionists and I guess just jews in general and the Palestinians in the Middle East. And they’re killing, I don’t know, somewhere between 10 and 100 Arabs a day over in the Middle East. And the way most people’s brains work, and especially the way Arabs brains work is. Yeah, they don’t recognize borders, they don’t care. And these weren’t even Arabs, technically, this father and son team. I guess they were Arabs in the sense of what etymologically the word Arab means, which is mixed. They’re a mixed population. They’re a mongrel population.

 

But I believe these two were half Indian, half Italian.

 

Henrik Palgren: Really?

 

Thomas Sewell: And yes. Yeah. So the father is an Indian national and the son was born in Australia to an Indian father and I believe an Italian mother. So he’s mixed race, and he’s converted to Islam, which is what Islam is. It’s a mongrel rape gang. It’s where all the mongrels go and convert and join the big brown alliance gang together. And he received a little bit of training in the Philippines, so he probably went over to the Philippines to not just do military training, but also to probably get a blessing from ISIS, because there is an ISIS cell in the Philippines.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: So that’s what the Intel is saying is that this guy was on a watch list from 2019 or 2020 that ASIO were keeping an eye on him because of obviously what he was posting on the Internet and the mosque that he was hanging out at. So he was actually a junior scholar at one of the more further down the line Sunni mosques here in Sydney. And he was not an imam or anything like that. Not highly trained, but he’s obviously gone through to religiously study Islam. He’s not just like a Friday Muslim that’s just casually gone down there. He has actually completed like his basic diplomas in understanding Islamic studies. And clearly he’s educated in Islam enough to know that if you want your 72 virgins, you got to go kill jews.

 

So he completed his education with that act. You could say if you understand Islam. And his father, I don’t know much about the father, but I do know that he’s an Indian national.

 

[10:39]

 

Henrik Palgren: The father was killed.

 

Thomas Sewell: The father was killed. The son just came out of the coma, just today. The news was saying just today he’s awoken from his coma.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay. Yeah, because you saw random other Aussies attacking the crew there on the bridge obviously too. And the police couldn’t, like, they didn’t know what was going on. They didn’t have any control of the situation. And guys were just moving in. They were even going after another random brown guy, … They were like these White Aussies, … [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: The footage I saw was that the first guy on the bridge to try to disarm them was a brown guy. And the one of the cops shot at him while he had his hands up.

 

Henrik Palgren: Wow!

 

Thomas Sewell: And then a whole bunch of Aussies jumped the bridge and tried to attack. Yeah, this is the footage here. So a bunch of Aussies are attacking because he’s wearing a black Tshirt.

 

So it’s like an Arab in a black Tshirt. And so people obviously thought that was the same guy, but he was actually the first to run up there to be a hero and then the next two Aussies that went up there to also be heroes. That’s one thing that’s interesting is you’ve got female cops literally hiding behind cars and having mental breakdowns. And you’ve got Baz here with his shirt off, two other Aussies and an Arab guy running up there hero style, unarmed to try to tackle these guys and disarm them.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And you’ve also got, I think earlier you had that old jewish, … Oh no, he wasn’t jewish, he was a Coptic Christian. I think old Coptic Christian guy, another Arab, attack him and take the shotgun off him, but not shoot him because apparently the shotgun was out of ammunition and then he ended up getting shot I think in the arm.

 

So it’s a chaotic situation obviously. There’s nothing suspicious about it in my opinion. I think that we should really focus on the principle that we need to be a sovereign country here in Australia. And this incident is caused by the fact that we have warring tribes in our nation! And the fault of this is the government for allowing the jews and allowing Muslims into our country when they have no place! They have no place in our country. And it doesn’t matter whether one is the victim and one is the attacker. This is caused by inter-ethnic or inter-religious conflict overseas and these problems are here. And I would have the same opinion if it was any group of people. But I especially have this opinion when it’s non-White people, when it’s brown people or desert people that are killing each other. We just don’t want these dramas here.

 

And this is the result of not just multiculturalism, but it’s also, yeah, the result of having a very powerful jewish lobby in this country. I mean this jewish event, these weren’t nobody jews. These were actual serious Zionists, they were serious jewish leaders.

 

And I think it’s a very fair assumption to make based off the full 10 minute footage that I’ve seen that these two went down there, these two Indian Muslims went down there with the intention to kill as many jews as possible. And I think that they also wounded about 40 other people.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, right.

 

Thomas Sewell: And we don’t have the full list of names of all the people killed and wounded, although at least half of the names of those killed have been released already. And they appear, I think 11 out of the 12 that we have the names of do appear to be jewish. There’s one name there that appears to be potentially, … Is that one is that, …

 

Henrik Palgren: That guy, Peter Meagher. He was there as a freelance photographer to actually shoot some photos for the Hanukkah party, I believe. But that’s one White guy.

 

I was looking at the bridge, and you can see. I mean, again, I don’t know what the like, how big was the field that the jews were in at the Hanukkah event there. But he fires this way, this way, that way. It looked like he was just shooting, like, everywhere on the beach that he basically could. That’s what it looked like to me. So first I was just kind of like:

 

“Was it a coincidence?”

 

You know, because that could happen. But I don’t know. Maybe it was publicly announced or something.

 

Thomas Sewell: It was a publicly announced event.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: By one of the, I think it’s a Chabad. I don’t know if I’m pronouncing it right.

 

Henrik Palgren: Chabad. All in there.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. It was a publicly announced event, and it’s very obvious. Again, I don’t have any more information than the media have already put out, but I think based on the Facebook posts of this, I mean, one of the jews that was killed was a pretty serious rabbi that had just gone back from Israel, and he was signing munitions over in Israel.

 

[15:32]

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, look, it was an international event. There were jews from France there, there was at least a couple from Israel, I think, and, of course, Arsen Ostrovsky was one of them. And, it’s a different mindset. Right. Like, if I’d be in a situation like this. I’d be like. I wouldn’t take a selfie at that point. I wouldn’t kind of push so hard politically.

 

But then you realize that’s how motivated these people are, that if these pieces lined up the way that they did and he just happens to be there, what is it? A human rights lawyer out of Israel or whatever to fight anti-semitism in Australia, he happens to find themselves there again, you can have questions about it, I think, but you don’t have to go into conspiracy.

 

But the point is, this is how they’re thinking. That’s what I want to say, Tom. If this happens, it’s immediately use it!:

 

“Like, second one, boom! Let’s go! Propaganda, push our issues!”

 

That’s what happens.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, look, I got a few things to say on that.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: When Carl Rittenhouse shot into a group of Antifa. When he was getting attacked, he took out two pedophiles.

 

So when you, not randomly, but when you’re getting attacked by Antifa, and if you take down two of them, there’s a strong chance that they’re a pedophile, that they’re a sex offender. And I don’t think it’s suspicious that two Muslims planned a terror attack to kill a bunch of jews. And it happened to be, out of the couple hundred jews that were there, there happened to be human rights lawyers and like, huge Zionist advocates. And I think you’d find it in a crowd of two or three hundred jews, especially, … And these weren’t secular jews. That’s an important point, is this wasn’t a secular jewish meeting. This wasn’t like:

 

“Hey, jews, come to the park and hang out!”

 

These were jews from the local synagogue in Bondi. And Bondi is a relatively jewish area. So it’s a touristy area, and it has a huge amount of rich White people that live there, but there’s also quite a large jewish population there. There’s, like a jewish enclave there, a wealthy jewish enclave there.

 

So there are some synagogues in Bondi, and this was one of the local synagogues that organized this. And they’re like:

 

“Yep, let’s do our thing down at the beach.”

 

So, yeah, there’s really nothing suspicious about this except there’s one video of the old man missing, like, three or four shots. And I mean, I don’t think that’s overly suspicious. I mean, it’s at close range, but, I mean, adrenaline, who knows?

 

Henrik Palgren: Right? Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: I haven’t seen anything other than that one video of him missing three shots. Like what? Yeah, it’s not Call of Duty. There’s just a lot of firearms experts on the Internet. There’s a lot of people that are just really quick to call:

 

“Oh, it’s Mossad! It’s Mossad! It’s Mossad!”

 

And it’s like, no, sometimes Muslims just kill people. And we have a really bad, you know, sort of subculture, I think, within the broader spectrum of White nationalism and dissident politics, where:

 

“Everything’s a conspiracy! And everything is like Mossad’s behind everything! There’s Mossad in your skirting board listening to you!”

 

And it’s like, this is just paranoia. Sometimes it’s just an actual terrorist attack. Now, if I’m presented with evidence that there was a Mossad connection, but all I’ve seen is AI, fake edits. Yeah, just Photoshop. I’ve just seen garbage! I’ve just seen the most low rent garbage! Psyop! You know, the real psyop is people thinking everything’s Mossad. I think that’s the real Mossad psyop.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, interesting point. Yeah. No, I’m not the one who immediately that’s, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Did you see Baz? That’s what put him in the coma.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, I figured. Right. Because I’m not sure if the other guy there, he, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Sorry. No, no, that’s the wrong one. No, no, sorry. It was a different head stomp. There was a different guy that kicked. So Baz kicked the father, old man in the head, but another younger guy, a fitter younger guy with tattoos, kicked the other one in the head.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: So before this footage.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, so okay, so moving on from whether:

 

“This was it a planned event! They knew it was going to happen. They knew the worst cops that day was, … They were running the shift then, these females. Because then you have mass impact.”

 

Okay, putting that to the side for now. It is what it is. We’re just looking at it for what it is. It’s then you come back to the official, you know, world in terms of the failure of the police, of the intelligence services. And the point of priority too, right? Because there is a kind of a, there’s blame here.

 

Like as much resources and effort and time and ultimately then money and manpower is being spent on you and on your group and people around you. Joel [Davis] and [Jacob] Hersant, all these people around there to monitor you and to arrest you and keep an eye on you and spy on you go to the park to box and then there they are. They have men assigned to just watching you guys. Right? That kind of stuff.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Henrik Palgren: Is this gonna force them to get their act together? Are they going to start taking the Muslim issues seriously? Is it going to be enough pressure from the jewish community that then that’s when they listen, right? When jews are murdered now they’re going to actually do something about this. What do you think they’re going to happen here, the next stage in this?

 

[21:01]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: In theory, you’re correct. In theory, when jews are affected, then you’ll see genuine pressure against Muslims. But what you’ll find is the jews are experts at transmuting any anti-Islamic energy into just being energy around anti-semitism in general. And you can already see the Labor Party for those that aren’t aware in America, the Labor Party here in Australia is kind of like our version of the Democrat Party. It’s the center-Left, so-called center-Left party. And you’ve got Tony Burke who’s the sort of, he heads the State Department. I think he’s the Home Affairs Minister. You’ve got the Prime Minister Albanese and you’ve got another guy who I’ve never seen on TV before, which is funny, they keep him hidden from TV. I think he’s the Defense Minister. His name is I think Murphy, and he is the gayest I have ever seen on Australian television. No, not Murphy. Marles. His name is Marles.*

 

[*The minister for defence is the minister of state of the Commonwealth of Australia charged with overseeing the organization, implementation, and formulation of strategic policy in defence and military matters as the head of the Department of Defence. The minister for defence is responsible for the Australian Defence Organization, including the Australian Defence Force (ADF). The current defence minister is Richard Marles, who is also concurrently serving as deputy prime minister of Australia, having been selected by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese in May 2022 following the 2022 Australian federal election.]

 

And all three of them senior Labor Party guys, they are just getting roasted at the moment for their failure. And they are basically trying to transmute and put the blame back onto Nazis saying:

 

“Well, our government has done the most to shut down hate speech. Our government has done the most to stop anti-semitism. Our government banned the Nazi salute. Our government has been going after these neo-Nazis!”

 

And on several occasions journalists have cut them off and have said:

 

“Hang on a minute, what are you going to do about these Muslims?”

 

Because obviously even though the media are very controlled in their nature, it’s really hard for the media to hold the party line together that the Labor Party are trying to hold together, which is “that this is a broad stroke anti-semitism issue” and then transmute it from broad smoke, broad stroke anti-semitism onto:

 

“Look how much we’ve done to stop Nazis!”

 

And the mainstream media even covered the deportation of Matthew Gruter after [before] this terrorist attack. So those that don’t know who Matthew Gruter is, he’s a member of our organization. He was a South African national that was here on a work Visa who attended an “expose jewish power” rally. I think it was “Abolish the jewish Lobby” rally. And he was doxed and deported. He was raided within, I think a day or two of him being doxed and he was put in a camp and then deported from that camp.

 

And so look, there’s nothing, the Australian government’s got no issues with putting people in camps and deporting them, which is interesting. And the media even mentioned:

 

“Well, hang on a minute, this guy didn’t break any law and he was deported.”

 

And yet this son and this father were both, … Yeah, you’ve got the old video there.

 

So there’s a new video where they actually started talking about him in reference to the fact that these two terrorists had traveled in and out of the country on several occasions to potentially receive military training.

 

And so you have people that are on a watch list for being involved with the Islamic State and training with the Islamic State and they own firearms. That’s another important point.

 

So this is Tony Burke. This is one of the faggots that personally had Matthew Gruter deported. He’s going to be deported to the Congo. We’re going to make sure that this faggot here, Tony Burke, is deported to the Congo. And that’s Penny Wong, the Chinese foreign minister.

 

Henrik Palgren: What could go wrong! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: But, yeah, Wong! Yeah. A former Australian Prime Minister:

 

“Two Wongs don’t make a White!”

 

Like back in the 50s or 60s, I think it was Harold Holt, or whoever came after him said:

 

“Two Wongs don’t make a White!”

 

Back then we were based and someone tried to bring their Asian war bride over from the Korean War and they denied access to the war bride or maybe they snuck her into the country. And then they were basically trying. They were trying to deport like, the one brown person that had been let into [chuckling] the country that year! And yeah, the prime minister said something like “two Wongs don’t make a White” when the media asked him why he was being deported. And even though technically be one Wong.

 

But anyway, yeah, so where was I going? I mean, it’s just they’re trying to obviously transmute this atrocity or this terrorist attack into being another battering ram against White Australia, against Neo-Nazis, against anti-semitism in general. What can they do? I don’t think they can do much except hot air. They’re not going to be able to change the laws in any way that’s going to be able to stop us from operating.

 

The way that the Labour Party has reacted to this has caused a huge amount of mainstream media condemnation. I mean, the mainstream media even played on national television, these Labor Party MPs, both state and federal MPs, rocking up to press conferences and getting booed by the public and getting booed by the jewish community.

 

So that’s very rare! They don’t usually show that on television. So the Labor Party is definitely just getting smashed at the moment.

 

But again, it’s that usual trick of “jew Left and jew Right”. And what they’re doing is they’re now really promoting the Liberal Party as being the only party that’s going to save the jews, and the Labor Party doesn’t have the balls to save the jews. And there’s a lot of layers to that.

 

So for example, the reason why these senior Labor Party like the Prime Minister, the Defense Minister and the Home affairs minister, the reason why they won’t call out the Muslims and why they’re trying to deflect it onto neo-Nazis is because the Labor Party can’t get elected into office without the Muslim vote and without the Indian vote. And these two were both Muslim and Indian!

 

[27:00]

 

So they don’t want to talk about the fact that he was an Indian national and he should have been deported. Obviously we shouldn’t have any Indians in the country. But even by their own metrics and by their own standards of fit and proper person checks, which is another important thing to bring up, is that it is quite hard to get a gun license in Australia if you’re a political dissident. It is not hard to get a gun license. The way that Australian gun laws work. Because I know Americans love saying:

 

“You guys gave up your guns. You, Australia doesn’t have any guns!”

 

That’s not true at all! And that’s just like what we don’t have is civilian access to military style firearms like semi-autos. Yeah, we don’t have access to semi-autos unless there’s a caveat to that, which is unless you’re what’s called a primary producer, or a professional hunter.

 

So if you have a contract, even if it’s just as low as like, I don’t know, $5,000 a year to contract shoot on people’s property, to shoot pests. Even if those pests are like foxes or something, or rabbits. You can get access to an AR15 in this country.

 

So it’s not true that we don’t have guns in this country. We have quite high gun ownership as a nation. And to get a CatAB which is basically rim fires and center fires, but in bolt action or pump. So we can get pump and bolt action. Like the rifle that this terrorist was using is called a Cat B rifle.

 

So what that means is it’s a bolt action rifle, it’s center fired, high powered and there’s not even a magazine capacity on it. Usually when you buy the rifles they come with a five or ten round magazine. It’s not actually illegal to own larger magazines. It doesn’t look good when the police come to inspect your safe. Which again, if you’re not a political dissident. It will very rarely happen. Most licensed firearm owners might only get a safe inspection once every five or 10 years. And it’ll just be two local cops. They’ll knock on your door, they’ll usually call you 24 hours beforehand and they’ll say

 

“Hi, I’m Sergeant so and so from the local police station, I need to come check your guns. I’ll be there tomorrow at nine o’ clock in the morning.”

 

And then you obviously make sure you’ve got all your shit squared away. They rock up to your house, they knock on your door, you let the two cops in, they have a look at your safe, they talk to you about what the weather’s doing and you know, how the Labor Party’s gay and try to be a friend and then they leave. And that’s basically what the local firearm section of the cops do. Because they know that every gun owner is all the vast, vast majority of gun owners are Right-wing and they’re just patriots, but they don’t have any views outside of just very common sense, low level patriotism and gun ownership or libertarianism. And there’s really very little dramas there.

 

So you can get that rifle that he’s shooting there, you can get that by just going down to the police station, filling out some paperwork, doing a one day course on firearm safety and then applying to become a member of any gun club or getting a Crown hunting permit. So a permit to hunt on Crown land.

 

Henrik Palgren: Do you have to be a member of a gun club?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah. Same as Sweden, basically.

 

Thomas Sewell: You can’t own a rifle in Australia for the purpose of self defense.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: You have to either you either own it because you target shoot at a gun club or you own it because you go hunting on Crown land. And all you need to do is, I think to hunt on Crown land, I think you pay 50 bucks a year or something. I used to be a licensed and registered gun owner. Obviously when I got involved in dissident politics I sold my guns and transferred them into other people’s names, just so that I didn’t have any ownership of guns. Because I could predict that they would use that as an opportunity to raid my house. And I’d heard of people that were involved in dissident politics, they went from never having a gun safe inspection to having like multiple gun safe inspections per year. And it was never just the two local cops. There would be two local cops that would come down and they’d have a weird look on their face like:

 

“Oh, hi!”

 

And they would rock up unannounced. That was another thing. Whereas normally they would always call you. And they would have six guys in suits, you know, rock up with them.

 

And it’s like:

 

“Oh, who are these people? What?”

 

And they’re just like:

 

“Oh, we’re just here for the gun inspection. Oh, what police station are you from? Oh, we’re from the city. Oh, what are you doing here? Oh, we’re just having a look.”

 

And then they’re not looking at your guns, what they’re doing. The two cops are looking at your guns, making sure that it’s all stored properly.

 

The other six cops are walking through your house, going through your drawers because they’re the STASI* and they’re going through your bookshelf, they’re going through your drawers, they’re going through your cupboards. And until you tell them to stop and get out of your house, they’ll go through everything. They might even ask if they can go through your phone.

 

[* Stasi: Official state security service of the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) The Ministry for State Security, commonly known as the Stasi, was the state security service and secret police of East Germany from 1950 to 1990. The function of the Stasi in East Germany resembled that of the KGB in the Soviet Union, ⁠ in that it served to maintain state authority and the position of the ruling party, in this case the Socialist Unity Party of Germany. Wikipedia]

 

And if you’re an idiot, you’d be like:

 

“Oh, okay.”

 

So there’s a lot of naive people that get screwed over.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: But yeah, I’ve never seen anyone that’s a face doxed nationalist be allowed to keep their guns.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

[31:57]

 

Thomas Sewell: So that’s when we talk about system failure, the government does not let face doxed nationalists own guns, no matter how tame you make your talking points.

 

And yet these guys they can get up to what they’re up to and at no stage do they, because the law is very subjective. We don’t have the right to own guns. What we have is what’s called a “fit and proper person” check, which is completely subjective. There’s no legal definition of that. There isn’t. I actually went to the Magistrates Court to prove I was a fit and proper person because they try to take my, … I used to be trained to be an Armor Guard. I never actually did Armor Guard work, I did unarmed security work, but I was trained to be an Armor Guard, so I could have bought a pistol if I wanted to because I was trained to be an Armor Guard and I had an a pistol license, even though I never owned a pistol and I had issues. I did a pistol shoot one time and the police called me and said:

 

“Hey, you’re not allowed to do a pistol shoot, you’re not fitting proper.”

 

And I was like:

 

“Yes, I am. I have a gun license.”

 

Even though I handed my guns in and stuff. I still had my gun license. And they said:

 

“Hey, you got to go to the Magistrates Court and sort this out immediately or you’re going to get charged.”

 

And so I went down the Magistrates Court and did like, it was called like a section 109, fit and proper person thingy. And the Magistrates Court confirmed that I was in fact fit and proper. And I was like, “phew”, you know what I mean? Like, kind of wiped my brow. This is really early days when I was really early involved in politics.

 

But it was a big stress, like I was going to potentially, and I had a clean criminal record back then, so I was really stressed about having a firearms offense. But I had the court confirm I was fit and proper. And yeah, these guys should not have been able to be classed as fit and proper.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right. Well, that’s the thing. Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: Completely subjective.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, yeah, obviously. Right. Unfortunately, that’s just those other conditions now with these people in charge of the governments.

 

“Bondi terrorists given gun license after ASIO investigated son’s, …”

 

Thomas Sewell: Sorry to interrupt. It’s pronounced ‘Ay Zee Oh’.

 

Henrik Palgren: ASIO investigated son’s Islamic State links.

 

Thomas Sewell: So again, here’s another interesting thing to interrupt. Sorry.

 

But when the labor government came to power. Sorry, when they were re-elected, they. When they did all their like, banning of the Nazi salute stuff. Banned the Nazi salute, they banned the swastika, but in the same legislation they actually decriminalized the ISIS flag.

 

Henrik Palgren: Really?

 

Thomas Sewell: So the Liberal Party made the ISIS flag a terror symbol and they made it illegal. And the Labor Party changed the legislation when they came to power and banned the swastika and then decriminalized the ISIS flag. So you can own an ISIS flag in Australia, but you can’t, … Sorry. You can publicly display an ISIS flag in Australia, but you cannot publicly display a swastika.

 

Henrik Palgren: Huh, Interesting!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. So that’s pretty funny. They didn’t need to do that. Like this ISIS flag was already banned and they didn’t need to touch that legislation. Why did they decriminalize it?

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, it’s a feature maybe not a bug. So I don’t know!

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s a huge Muslim voting bloc in Australia and, …

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: Obviously you’ve got an understanding of European politics like Nordic politics. But most Americans in the dissident Right, I think they’re really blind to the Islamic issue.

 

I mean, I noticed after the Aug 31st rally which was that big March for Australia rally where I spoke in front of, I don’t know, somewhere between 20,000 and 50,000 people. You know, is it from the TRS? Is that what they’re called? The Right Stuff? Eric Striker.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: I saw Eric Striker, … Well, I was in jail, so someone mailed it to me. But while I was in jail, I got mail. And it was a screenshot of like an Eric Striker tweet saying that:

 

“I’m like a judeophile and that I love jews and that you know, I’m against Muslims because I love jews.”

 

And just crazy shit! Like, I’ve been an anti-semite, a public anti-semite for probably six or so years.

 

Henrik Palgren: You’re a proven anti-semite! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: I am [chuckling] a proven anti-semite and everything. But he was dissecting that part of my speech where I said:

 

“When the people waving the Palestinian flags and the Aboriginal flags came charging at us, we fought back.”

 

Henrik Palgren: Right. Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And I haven’t had a chance to clarify that on stream. That actually happened. I haven’t done a response to that, but I want people to know that actually happened.

 

And this idea that we should not fight back against Palestinians when they’re punching us in the head or communists waving Palestinian flags so that we can one struggle with them against the Zionists, that’s fucking crazy! We’re in Australia. I’m not in the Middle East. Like, I’m not picking a side on the Middle East in the Middle East. I’m picking Australia, in Australia.

 

So to be fair to the Palestinians, to be fair to the Palestinians and the Arabs to give some context to that, usually they rally every weekend in Australia, in Melbourne, in Sydney and Brisbane, there’s a big rally of Arabs every single weekend in the CBD. And it’s usually 3/4 or 7/8 Muslim, you know, Arabs and 1/4 or 1/8 communists that are trying to subvert it and control them. And what they’ve done is they’ve created a brown alliance where they’re waving Abo flags and they’re waving Palestinian flags because they’re trying to convert the Muslims to being on the side of the communists for the Aboriginal issue.

 

[37:46]

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: So:

 

“We’re not anti-zionists. We’re anti-colonialists! And the Zionists are a problem because they’re colonialists. It’s not because they’re Zionists. It’s because they’re colonialists. And because they’re jewish nationalists.”

 

Which I guess is what zionism is.

 

But it’s not a specific form of anti-semitism. They’re trying to, instead of it being counter jewish or counter anti-semitism, the communist groups are trying to convert all these Arabs to the cause. Now they’ve been very unsuccessful broadly, but they have converted a small percentage.

 

And so on that day, on August 31st, the vast majority of Arabs didn’t show up. The vast majority. So normally that weekend rally, that pro-Palestine rally, is normally, as I said, 7/8 Arab, 1/8th communist. On that day it was almost the other way around. It was probably 3/4 communist, 1/4 Arab. So the vast, vast majority of Arabs. And we had leaks because we’ve got people in their group chats to keep an eye on. We had leaks from their group chats saying:

 

“We ’re not going down, this is the reason why we’re not going down, don’t attend, we’re just going to have a week off. We still care about the cause, obviously, but it’s not a good idea. We don’t want a front on confrontation with March for Australia because it doesn’t achieve what we want to achieve, which is we want Australians having sympathy for Palestine. And so if we let the March for Australia people rally this weekend and wave the Aussie flags, we should stay the hell away from them so that it doesn’t interfere with our kind of our optics.”

 

They were optics cucking. They were like:

 

“We’re not going to rally this week.”

 

And so the vast, vast majority of Arabs did not come down. They didn’t want that confrontation. But some still came down.

 

And so it’s just crazy, like, yes, and it’s similar to this Bondi incident. So the context of the Bondi incident is, did he wave away most Arabs and most White Australians? You can see in that 10 minute footage the two terrorists on several occasions wave away, the young guy at least, waved away heaps of Aussies and Arabs that were swearing at him, that were carrying on, that were getting close to them. There was a lot of people, a lot of Aussies that were coming up from the other side, not from the beach, but from the other side that were saying like:

 

“What are you doing? Stop what you’re doing!”

 

Like that kind of rhetoric. And there was a bunch of women screaming like:

 

“Oh my God, stop!”

 

Like that’s gonna help! And he was just, you could see him, he’s like waving him away. He’s like:

 

“Piss off! Go away!”

 

And a lot of the guys like having a go at him had beards, whether they were Aussies or whether they’re Arabs. So obviously he wasn’t going to shoot anyone that was like Arab looking with a beard. So he did pick his target, that’s very clear. But that doesn’t mean that White Australians weren’t shot on the day.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: So again, again, I’m getting ankle bit by individuals who are saying:

 

“Oh, he put out a post about White Australians, but this was an attack on jews.”

 

And it’s like, I’m aware that it was predominantly an attack on jews and the media have been talking non-stop about jews since it happened and our responsibility is White Australians. I don’t have a responsibility for jews, I have a responsibility for White Australians.

 

So I think it’s very important that we try to retake some of that narrative because the politicians have said nothing about how this is an attack on Australians, let alone White Australians.

 

Obviously the politicians aren’t going to say this is an attack on White Australians.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: But I mean, I saw one of the opposition leaders come out with a post just today and, sorry, it was a video, and he said:

 

“This terrorist attack is an attack on the jewish community. And although it’s disrespectful to Australians this is the primary issue is that it’s an attack on the jewish community and it’s about hatred and we have to stop hatred of jews.”

 

And it’s like, hang on a minute. Disrespectful to Australians? Like there’s a little bit more than disrespectful to Australians! Yeah, I mean the idea that shooting at Australians is:

 

“It’s disrespectful, but it’s not driven by hate of Australia and Australia’s values. It’s driven by hatred of jews!”

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah. So the call that you’ve seen then is obviously, yes, the jewish community seems to be mobilizing around, targeting Albanese and the Labor government, obviously that they want them out. I think I even heard, is it Sharri Markson* on Sky News, the jewish host there? She was talking about how Albanese had, I forget exactly what the word is. I’m paraphrasing, but it’s like “have emboldened or aided Hamas” or something in Australia. Is there any truth to that? Or is it like, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay, yeah, give me your take on that.

 

* Sharri Markson (born 8 March 1984) is a Jewish Australian journalist and author. She is investigations editor at The Australian and host of the Sky News Australia program Sharri, which airs 8-9 PM Monday to Thursday. She is the winner of numerous awards in journalism, including two Walkley Awards.]

 

[42:32]

 

Thomas Sewell: The Right-wing jews in Australia are very connected obviously with the Liberal Party. And the Liberal Party has never been doing worse in the history of its existence in the Australian political spectrum.

 

So what’s happening in Australia in the last four or five years is the Liberal Party has gone from a serious contender at winning the 51% of the, not the primary vote, but the total vote. When you get all the preferencing schemes or the minor parties or the satellite parties all funnel all their votes into the Liberal Party so they can win the 51%. They went from a serious contender to that, to basically total party death. I mean the Liberal Party is on its way to becoming no longer being one of the big two. And Australian politics is fracturing on the Right.

 

And so the jews, the Zionist jews especially, are absolutely petrified that they’re losing that conservative Right, You know, the control, what’s it called? The gatekeeper. They’re losing their gate-keeping party. The “Containment Right”, sorry is the word I’m looking for. They’re losing control of the Containment Right.

 

And so the jews are shifting between One Nation which is the slightly more Right-wing party, led by a redhead lady called Pauline Hanson, who was fish and chip shop lady that said racist things about Asians and now she’s like the biggest judeophile in the country.

 

And so they’re shifting support towards One Nation and the Right-wing faction within the Liberal Party. And there is truth to the fact that the Labor Party has aided and abetted Hamas in the sense that the Labor Party gains a lot of its vote from the Muslim blocs and does everything it can to not upset the Muslims. And when this war in Palestine was going on, the Labor Party was in a very difficult situation because a lot of the people that make up the Labor Party are, … And also their main alliance, which is with the Greens, which is a very Left-wing party that’s very pro-Palestine. The Labor Party are caught between a rock and a hard place where they’re really pro-jewish but they kind of have to be anti-Israel. Similar to like the Jeremy Corbyns, …

 

Henrik Palgren: I was gonna say, it’s like UK. Even Sweden has that dynamic too with the Social Democrats. They’re extremely in with the Muslim faction and trying to bring them aboard and they’re kind of infiltrating the party and they are actually taking more power.

 

And so the kind of conservative opposition is therefore kind of forced to take an even more pro-stance. Even the Sweden, Democrats were like led into the fold of like being unofficial ties with Israel. They went to a trip over there recently and they were of course so happy about it. But just to reiterate that point. You are right that there’s a lot of people in America that don’t understand the Muslim dynamic, that they just think that Muslims are simply, … Has it been used like that? Of course! I mean, even opening the borders partially to Muslims. Right. Have been kind of a geostrategic demographic plan, if you will, right from the War on Terror with the neocons, which displaced a lot of these people. They used that as the excuse and now we have to let in Muslims.

 

So there’s a sure, there’s a functionality in that. Not every one, obviously, but some doesn’t seem to understand just how big of a problem that that is and that the Muslim organized community actually is. And they just think them as pawns of Mossad and Israeli interests essentially. Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: And also the dynamic in Australia is very different to America. So in America you have predominantly a Mexican and an African problem.

 

And so you have whole suburbs taken over by Mexicans or you have whole suburbs taken over by Africans. We don’t have that in Australia. There’s no suburb in Australia that’s taken over by Mexicans and there’s very few suburbs, like there’s probably only two or three suburbs in Melbourne and maybe one or two suburbs in Sydney that are taken over by Africans. But what we do have is we have entire regions of our cities, like we’re talking 3, 4, 5, 6 suburbs at a time, taken over by Arabs. And we have huge Islamic, you know, voting blocks. We have huge Islamic organizations. The Muslims are very organized. Like I used to work in the northern suburbs just as a casual worker when I was doing the residential care. And there was a resi home in the northern suburbs and I was looking after some drug addict teenagers, and you know, taking them to play footy and stuff like that. And they were the only White kids in the whole area.

 

I mean, there was three mosques in that suburb. And I’m telling you there was probably 5,000 Muslims per mosque, all fighting age men, all fit, all healthy. It was an army. There was probably, there was like more than a division, more than a division, like a World War II size division, like probably 15,000 fighting Muslims in that one suburb.

 

And I mean, we’re talking about guys aged between 18 and 40 you know, on the steroids train at the kickboxing gym. You know, I mean, like when you talk about “tribe and train”, they were organized on another level! And so and they’re political, they’re religious, they’re not low IQ niggers running around shooting each other with guns. They’re much more intelligent. They’re probably like averaging a 95 IQ, which is in that zone where they can organize effectively in very large numbers. The Africans can’t do that. So, if there’s societal collapse, if there’s a breakdown, you’ve got potentially tens of thousands of Muslim fighters as a fifth column in your country, that’s a way bigger threat than just like the chaos and anarchy of a hundred thousand Africans just in this city.

 

So I think some Americans probably do understand it. They might live in particular areas and they might be observing what happens in Europe and our situation is closer to Europe than it is to America’s.

 

[48:41]

 

 

Henrik Palgren: Right, exactly, exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. With the added factor of the Chinese and the Indians. So yeah, they’re obviously less militant, but they’re equally as organized at an economic level.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, exactly! It’s a major problem. And they’re kind of there’s this alliance, as you said, between the, usually the Labor government, the Left-wing governments and the Muslim faction kind of thing.

 

So I’m very familiar with it now that’s played out in Sweden. It’s very detrimental and yeah, so basically it’s a multi-pronged attack. It’s Chinese, it’s Indians, it’s Muslims, it’s jews. It’s like everyone!

 

Thomas Sewell: Social cohesion. It’s social cohesion.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s what the so the government. I’ve never heard this word used so much in the last six months. It’s like they got the patch, like they got the software patch, they got the software update. Every media station, every politician on all sides, Liberal, Labor, all they talk about now is “social cohesion”. Every press conference, “social cohesion”.

 

Henrik Palgren: Interesting!

 

Thomas Sewell: Every arrest, social cohesion! Every law change they’re trying to make:

 

“We got to improve social cohesion!”

 

And you know when ASIO gets up on the TV, like Mike Burgess, when he gets up on the press releases:

 

“Social cohesion! Social cohesion! Social cohesion!”

 

It is the running meme of 2025 here in Australia is the government will not stop talking about social cohesion, which really is about public trust in the institutions, public trust in the government and the fact that we’re in a multipolar society, that guns or no guns, people are breaking away from each other and everyone is getting way more racist.

 

All people, all Whites, Indians, Muslims, Chinese people, we’re going into that mode where boundaries between suburbs are becoming more clear and White flight is becoming far more obvious. And, yeah, people are starting to stick to their own areas more, which in America you’ve probably had for a really long time. You’ve had probably that breakdown in social cohesion.

 

But here in Australia, we had this, like crazy salt and pepper multiculturalism where every suburb just had a light Dusting of high IQ, non-White people that we just stole from the Third World. But now we’ve got all the foot soldiers here. So now the social cohesion’s properly broken down now.

 

Henrik Palgren: Do you think they intend to actually use it in the way we use it, or did we have to integrate them, then better? Is that the kind of the, …

 

Thomas Sewell: No, they’re not even bothering with that’s the brilliant part of it. Their strategy is so ineffective, they’re not even bothering to talk about assimilation anymore. They gave up on assimilation about five years ago. I haven’t really heard that word used by any of the parties, except maybe One Nation. They’re probably the only one still trying to die on the hill of assimilation, which is good. I’m glad that there’s a controlled opposition in that area so that they can die on the hill of assimilation, because it won’t work.

 

Henrik Palgren: And that’s Pauline Hanson.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, it’s Pauline Hanson.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. So she’s gone from a pretty explicitly White nationalist position where it’s like her maiden speech, she said:

 

“Australia is being threatened by being flooded with Asians!”

 

And the whole mainstream media just mocked her. They didn’t argue against it. They just mocked her and said:

 

“That that’s insane! That’s ridiculous!”

 

And this is in 1996. And she was right. And now that she’s right, instead of doubling down on her position that Australia’s now flooded with Asians, she’s now got Asians and Indians in her party. And she’s saying:

 

“Oh, but these are assimilated. They’re assimilated Asians!”

 

And so she’s gone like, she’s doubling down on Civnattery and the assimilation method.

 

Whereas the Liberal Party and Labor Party. The Liberal Party has two factions. It has the Right-wing and Left-wing in it. So it’s meant to be a Right-wing party, but it’s actually been taken over by Left-wingers.

 

And I’m not just talking about the Overton Window shifting. It actually has had a coup, like an internal coup. And basically the Right-wing faction was more aligned with that One Nation rhetoric. Like they want to maintain the assimilation lie, whereas the Left-wing faction:

 

“No, that’s racist! You can’t say ‘assimilation’ because that implies that our culture is better than theirs. So they shouldn’t be assimilating into our culture.”

 

So that’s fucking awesome! That’s great news. I don’t want these people assimilating or attempting to assimilate.

 

Henrik Palgren: No.

 

Thomas Sewell: And the ones that have attempted are being outnumbered now by the ones that don’t even give a fuck and don’t have any respect for our culture and society. And so, yeah, social cohesion is at an all time low.

 

Yeah, that’s basically the situation in Australian politics. And now they’re calling for deportations, but they’re doing it in a very soft way. They basically want to try to just more of the same. They want to deport and block anti-semites coming in the country. And the rhetoric is not really around like anything like Donald Trump where he’s talking about people from shithole countries. That rhetoric is not on the menu here in Australia.

 

[53:42]

 

Henrik Palgren: Right. Yep. Nope. Exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: Pauline Hanson’s broached it a little bit, but nowhere at the same level.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: So basically the Right-wing in the United States or Donald Trump, like the MAGA camp is more Right-wing than the party that’s broken away from. Not to sound too complicated, [chuckling] but like One Nation has basically tripled in size in the last couple of years because the Liberal Party, after there was a Left-wing coup in it, is just in shambles.

 

And so I guess this leads into the next point which is about building up our party and the kind of support that we’re seeing.

 

Henrik Palgren: Exactly! No, I want to get into that. And guys, I’ll get to some of your chats and questions for Tom here too in a moment. I appreciate the support there too. We’ll get to that.

 

Just quick, regarding the gun there’s a couple of things in terms of the fallout here. I think you have the next election in 2028 and again, I’m not staring myself too blind on this, but it’s just an interesting dynamic in terms of like will the current government been able to push through then a couple of things when it comes to additional gun laws or maybe then restricting these, even these hunting license, you know, hunting licenses that they’re handing out right now! And what do you think will happen in regards to the hate this was one headline from GB News here:

 

“Racial Hatred laws must be tightened in the wake of Bondi beach massacre!”

 

So are these the two main things that the Labor Party will deal with, do you think?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes. So Jack Eltis, the state leader [of NSN] for New South Wales, put out a very good post recently where he basically explained that it’s sad that the government is going to take away more rights of freedoms or privileges of the Australian population, but it’s ultimately a net positive in the sense that Australians do need to get shocked into reality. They need to wake up from their slumber and realize that no matter what happens, good, bad, indifferent, the result it’s going to be mutated into taking away their rights. That there’s never going to be a solution to deporting all these Muslims. There’s never going to be a solution to stopping the level of crime. Any law that’s passed is just going to affect you. And that these laws are constantly just, yeah, mutated to affect White Australians when White Australians are not the cause of the problem.

 

So I know a lot about gun laws in Australia because I used to be really interested in it as a subject prior to really dedicating myself to White nationalism. Really there’s not much they can do, there’s not much the government can do except hot air. What they will do if they want some sort of nominal victory is they will ban all the niche firearms that aren’t bolt action.

 

So at the moment in Australia we’ve got a whole bunch of firearms that kind of circumvent the law in the sense that they aren’t actually bolt action rifles, but you can get them on a Cat B license, which anyone can get if you join a hunting club, which is what this young Arab, this young half Indian Muslim dude did. He just joined, I think the Zavasta Hunting Club, which is like Serbian hunting club. It’s just connected to the Serbian community. Not that they’ve got any implication in this. That must have been his local hunting club. He joined that club, therefore he gets access to a Cat B.

 

But he didn’t use a strictly bolt action rifle in the attack. He used a straight, what’s called a “straight pull”, which, Beretta make one, I think Ticker makes one. There’s a whole bunch of gun companies that make niche rifles, but they’re always very expensive. A bolt action rifle in Australia would cost somewhere between six hundred and twelve hundred dollars. Like a decent one, or a half decent one. The straight pulls are usually the more bougie end of the market. Like two and a half, $3,000. Three and a half thousand dollars. So rifles are very expensive in Australia.

 

And what they would do to get a nominal victory is they would change the law and say:

 

“Straight pulls, they’re rapid fire bolt actions, they’re too fast! And we can’t let people get them!”

 

So that means the next terror attack will be like 20% slower, right? Instead of 15 people being killed, maybe 14 or 13 people will be killed.

 

Henrik Palgren: So just send more cops and the amount of kills will be the same. Or more female cops.

 

Thomas Sewell: Well, shit, one of the female cops almost killed just a random Arab on the bridge.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, of course, [chuckling] yeah, yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: So the death toll almost got higher! You know, insert the Sam Hyde clip. Fuck!

 

Yeah, they scare me genuinely, especially when they’re at the door.

 

But yeah, I’ve had a male cop tackle me like with his gun out. And I wasn’t in fear at all! I was just like:

 

“I’m not resisting, I’m not resisting!”

 

Like, I was just chill.

 

But when I see a female cop with a gun out, I freak out! I’m like:

 

“This is it. Hail Odin! Like it’s over. [chuckling] Yeah, take me!”

 

Henrik Palgren: Take you to Valhalla? Yeah, if a female cop shoots you, …

 

Thomas Sewell: The Valkyries have come to take me! Oh no. Because they’re just so scary, because they’re shaking and shit! Like they get the brief. Like:

 

“He’s a terrorist! He’s a maniac! Be on guard!”

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And you say that to a woman with a gun before they’re like kicking your door. And fuck! It’s like they’re on speed. Like their pupils are so dilated its scary.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh gosh!

 

Thomas Sewell: The look in their eyes is scary. Yeah, it’s like you can’t tell where they’re predator or prey. It’s a mixture of both. They’re prey with a gun. It’s crazy!

 

But anyway, I’ll stop with the “misogyny”, because it’s not the point of the stream.

 

[59:13]

 

 

Henrik Palgren: Let’s have some more. [chuckling] Come on! Okay. Yeah. So you know, again you have the Port Arthur massacre.

 

Thomas Sewell: You know that definitely is very suspicious!

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, I mean, undoubtedly. Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s questions and it’s not because one’s a Muslim and one’s not. It’s not about that. The Port Arthur massacre is extremely suspicious and there’s a lot of good docos that have been made on it. An associate, I wouldn’t say an associate that might get him in trouble, but someone I’ve actually met before in the alternative sort of political space a decade ago, a guy called Paul Moder*, he actually made a documentary called Wasp on the Port Arthur massacre. And he spent about 10 years researching the Port Arthur massacre. And yeah, I won’t go into detail because I don’t want to do a conspiracy stream today, but it’s very obvious that what they’re telling us about that situation is just not true.

 

[* Film director and actor Paul Moder has embarked on a cinematic retelling of the Port Arthur Massacre, which goes into full production 2019, under the title of WASP. But unlike the current wave of “true crime”, Moder attempts to unpick the official version of events and create a rare piece of Australian revisionist-history cinema. Well before it’s made, WASP is already very controversial, but it continues a lineage of pessimism and historical revisionism that started in late 1960s with films like Blow Up, Parallax View and reaching crescendo with Oliver Stone’s JFK in 1991. https:// www.pureshitauscinema.com/interviews/moder.html]

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah. And then end result of that, a lot of the guns were, it was a buyback program. Right. That happened after.

 

Thomas Sewell: So it’s a bit misunderstood. Even in Australia, most people don’t really know what happened. So John Howard* [former Aust PM] passed laws saying you can’t own semi-autos anymore, again unless you’ve got this special Cat C, Cat D license, whereas you used to get all firearms all on the same license.

 

[* John Winston Howard (born 26 July 1939) is an Australian former politician who served as the 25th prime minister of Australia from 1996 to 2007, holding office as leader of the Liberal Party of Australia. His eleven-year tenure as prime minister is the second-longest in Australian history, after that of Sir Robert Menzies. Since the death of Bob Hawke in 2019, Howard is the oldest living Australian former prime minister. Howard was born in Sydney and studied law at the University of Sydney. He was a commercial lawyer before entering Parliament.]

 

And I think some states, they didn’t even have licenses. I’ve heard stories of people, they could go into Kmart and buy a gun and like just buy it off the shelf and just take it on the train and go home with it. I’ve actually spoken to people in person that have said that they used to be able to, when they’re 18, they could walk down to the sports shop and buy a gun, get on a train, take the gun home on the train. No one would even blink an eye. And that was the Australia they grew up in. So some really similar to how America used to be. But after Port Arthur they changed the law so you can’t have semi-autos and they Instituted more licensing sort of schematics.

 

But what they did was they did it, they did a buyback program, but the stats of it are not publicly known. They’re publicly available, but they only got about 700,000 rifles in that first year. Obviously they got a few more later on, but they only got back about 700,000 rifles.

 

And I think 4% of the rifles they got back in the buyback were semi-autos. And to put that into context, 600,000 SKS is, were imported into the country in 1995 and 1996. So the year that the gun buyback happened, more SKS came into the country than SKS were handed over.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, interesting.

 

Thomas Sewell: Really any rifle that was handed over, almost.

 

So yeah, there’s a lot of law in this country about, there’s a whole generation of guys in their 70s and 80s that have all just got like crates of SKS is buried on their farms. Now, I’ve personally never seen it, I’ve never witnessed it, never touched one, never heard of one. They all got lost in fishing trips as far as, …

 

Henrik Palgren: Tragic boating accident!

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes, tragic boating accidents. I got no knowledge of anything like of the sort! But there’s a lot of like folklore about those hundreds of thousands of SKS that came in the country in 1996. As I said, only 4% of the 700,000 rifles that were handed back were semi-autos. And actually they’re not SKSs. They were actually SKKs.

 

So they’re like a Chinese SKS that could take AK magazines. And very occasionally there’ll be a shooting between like bikies and the cops. And you’ll see it’s full automatic fire coming out of one of these SKKs, shooting the helicopters or something crazy like that.

 

Henrik Palgren: So.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, but again that’s all very old, like, …

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, right.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’ll be in the Cosmoline oil* or whatever in the crates in the ground and 99% of them be forgotten about if the bikies don’t get their hands on them. But the Arabs actually have AKs and Glocks, all these like organized crime groups. There’s a whole shipment of Glocks that went missing years ago.

 

[* Cosmoline is the genericized trademark for a common class of brown, wax-like petroleum-based corrosion inhibitors, typically conforming to United States, Military Standard MIL-C-11796C Class 3. They are viscous when freshly applied, have a slight fluorescence, and solidify over time with exposure to air. The main ingredient in cosmoline is aliphatic petroleum solvent, which is volatile and evaporates over time.]

 

There’s been two terrorist attacks on Australian soil in the past by Africans of all things. And they got AKs from the local mosque. So there’s a huge amount of illegal firearms to that have been imported in the country since 1996 that the Arabs and Muslims have control over. Because they’re involved with organized crime.

 

Henrik Palgren: Correct? Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: They control the vast majority of organized crime in Australia, similar to Sweden.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep, that’s right. Exactly! Yeah. Guns came in. I figured it’d be a little bit more complicated with Australia being an island as opposed to the EU. You can basically just drive in with them from like some Balkan country or something.

 

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Thomas Sewell: But they get them in the same way they get drugs and they just get them in on shipping container. If a whole bunch get caught, they don’t care. They can bring in a thousand at a time.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, they’re the arming themselves and they’re being allowed to also. Yeah, I mean, let’s be honest. It’s a feature and not a bug, I think, to be honest.

 

Okay, so the next thing that we’re going. Yeah, okay, so Hate Speech laws. Anything else you want to say about that? What do you think? So they banned the swastika and the roman, you know, things like this. What’s next here? What do you think you’re looking at?

 

Thomas Sewell: It’ll just be more funding to this new task force they’ve built, the AFP, Australian Federal Police, which is basically trying to convert itself into the FBI.

 

So the Federal Police, my understanding of the Federal Police for the last couple decades has really focused on organized crime, has focused on importing and shipping like drugs into the country or guns into the country. It’s been focused on white-collar crime as well.

 

So really big frauders, really big scammers, kind of Wall Street crime, white-collar crime, people stealing money that work at banks. I know there was some young guys that got done with some sort of banking fraud scheme. And that’s all AFP. The state police don’t handle a lot of that. More expertise crime. That’s really what the feds have been doing for a long time. And what they’re converting the Federal Police into is. And it’s very clever the way the government do it. They basically have control of the budget. And so they’ll say:

 

“Hey, we’re giving this much money to the Federal Police. Oh you’ve got less funding now. You’ve got to shut down some of your departments.”

 

And so they shut down these departments and then like they do the budget and then the next year they go:

 

“Oh, actually you’re getting 500 million more than last year!”

 

And then it’s like:

 

“Oh, and here are the new departments that we recommend you set up.”

 

So there’s an article that came out today. So when the ASIO director general, Mike Burgess*, came into position in charge of ASIO, back in 2019, they fired 10 of the most senior, kind of staff of ASIO, And they would have done the same thing. They would have said:

 

“Oh, we don’t have money. You know, we’re too top heavy. We’re too top heavy! It’s a boys club at the top and they’re all on a good salary and we got to save money. We’re too top heavy!”

 

[* Michael Paul Burgess is an Australian intelligence official, and the current Director-General of Security in charge of the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO). Prior to his appointment to this role on 16 September 2019, Burgess was director-general of the Australian Signals Directorate (ASD). Burgess was born in England, and immigrated to Adelaide, South Australia in 1973 at the age of seven. He was the first member of his family to study in higher education, receiving a degree in electrical engineering from the South Australian Institute of Technology in 1988.]

 

That’s what they’re doing. They’re trying to do that with defense at the moment. But really it’s always a coup. And it’s known in the Australian inner circle as being “The Red Wedding”. That’s what they called it. It’s like the Red Wedding where they basically couped and they killed off, they retired, they forced retired like 10 of the most senior counter terrorist experts at ASIO. That were probably like racist Right-wingers that were like they’re the post 9/11 intelligence people* that are like:

 

“Yep, let’s catch these Muslims!”

 

And they got rid of those guys. And that was around the time this Bondi shooter was being investigated by ASIO, So what you have is then you had the Brennan Tarrant incident [in New Zealand] happen. You had the top 10 senior staff of ASIO getting fired.

 

[* Who would well know that 9/11 was a ZOG false flag engineered from Israel. See ALSO LINKS below.]

 

And then you have the new funding come in after they’re getting fired. And that new funding came in, and 40% of their budget now is Right-wing extremism. And the budget for these state police forces, Federal Police forces and ASIO varies anywhere from 40 to 70% of their budget of their task force, of their manpower. Really, that’s what it means, is dedicated to anti-semitism from the Right-wing perspective, as opposed to from the Muslim perspective or just terrorism from a Right-wing perspective, as a set of terrorism from a Muslim perspective.

 

And so what we would be looking at is more funding to these task force. So that would mean more offices, that would mean a bigger budget, that would mean more raids, that would mean more intimidation, that would mean more charges are going to get laid.

 

And so it just means that people just got to be more, I guess, sensitive with their rhetoric. There are things that I have said in the past, back in 2018, 2019, that I, after those reforms came in, there’s no way I would say them in 2022, 2023.

 

And likewise, there are things that I’ve said online, 2023 that I just simply would not say today. And it’s not because I’m a, it’s not because I’m fucking optics cucking and:

 

“Oh, I’m a moderate now. Now we’ve got mainstream coverage and we’re a household name now I’m changing my rhetoric and betraying my base!”

 

It’s like, no, it’s just that I don’t want to go to jail for two years for fucking saying the wrong thing on the Internet. I’m okay with going to jail for a couple months for punching people in the head. That’s cool. But I’m not okay with going to jail for two, … Like what’s happening to Joel [Davis] right now? I mean, what did he say? “Rhetorical rape”?

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s crazy! And he’s done like two months now, so he’s done almost as much time, … He’s got a bailout coming up on the 23rd, so that’ll be what, a month in jail or more? It’d be almost six weeks in jail!

 

Henrik Palgren: Have you spoken to him recently?

 

[1:08:45]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: No, I haven’t because he has to call me. So it takes a long time to get names and numbers added to the callers. So I haven’t received a phone call from him unfortunately. But I expect one soon. But I’ve spoken obviously with the lawyer and there’s obviously confidentiality so he can’t go into detail, but he can pass on regards and tell me about his general well being.

 

So yeah, I have spoken to people that have spoken to him. But yeah, he seems to be doing okay. He’s just frustrated. And as you would be.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, he missed his birth of his son, I believe.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. His first child.

 

Henrik Palgren: And they’ve been going after his girlfriend as well. Some headlines out, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes.

 

Henrik Palgren: Are you in contact with anyone else around him and how they’re dealing with it, the situation?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, my missus and his missus are in contact. Obviously she needs a bit of space with everything that’s going on. But you know, she’s reached out and yeah, we’re in contact with her. She’s got a little bit of support in Sydney from some of the partners over there and also her family are quite supportive.

 

So yeah, it’s disgusting that that journalist that went and harassed her. I think it was like two or three days after she gave birth where she’s putting nappies in the bin and they’ve got a private investigator out the front taking photos of her. That same journalist came to my family, my in law’s house and twisted words that my family said through a fly screen door.

 

And they also went to Matthew Gruter’s house as well and Matthew Gruter’s wife had just given birth as well. I think they had a two week old baby. And yeah, when they went to my family, my in-laws house, we’ve got a brand new baby as well. Like we’re not brand new but like a six month old baby and a toddler. And they’re attacking, they’re coming after the women, they’re coming after our wives and you know, it’s obviously abhorrent. But and it’s radicalizing, it’s really radicalizing. You know the expression:

 

“You don’t hate journalists enough!”

 

And this is a classic example of it. Like imagine the mentality that a journalist would have to go:

 

“Oh, this woman’s just given birth.”

 

Because they know, they know the details because it was mentioned in court that she was due within a week. And so imagine going:

 

“Oh, she’s due within a week. Let’s cause as much stress and harm and cortisol to her as possible!”

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And put her in the news and put her in the media either while she’s just about to have birth or give birth or she’s just had the process.

 

And anyone that knows anything about childbirth, labor, postpartum, they know that that’s the most absolutely critical time for a woman to balance her hormones and to not have any unnecessary stress. It’s when they need the most amount of sort of oxytocin. They just need love, they need cuddles. Like usual, but on another level, women need just cuddles in general.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: But they really just need cuddles and support before, during and after that whole process. And these journalists would know that they would know that. She’s a woman, she would know that. But these people are evil and they’re possessed by demons and the demons attack the vulnerable. They attack the weak and the vulnerable and they attack women. They attack women when they’re at their most vulnerable. I mean my missus didn’t get attacked like any day of the week while I wasn’t in jail. But she’s getting harassed and attacked by journalists when I’m in jail. So when she’s alone. So they come after you when you’re alone. They come after you when you’re vulnerable. They come after you when you’ve just given birth, you can barely walk because, you’re still recovering.

 

I mean, yeah. What we’re going to do to these journalists when we take power in a legal and lawful manner is going to be like, I’ve got experience with how the system has treated me over the years for being a political dissident. And yeah, these people are really silly! Like the way they’re behaving, they don’t know who they’re messing with. They just don’t know who they’re messing with! They don’t realize that we have really long memories and we are never going to forgive them! Ever! So keep going, see what happens! I mean they may as well keep doubling down because they’re already going to get the worst! [chuckling] Like the worst thing I can think of is what’s going to happen to these journalists, to do this to Joel’s missus and by default to Joel. But Joel’s fine, he’ll be right. But to do this to his partner is just disgusting!

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, media has always been a fifth column, right? Always an operative for the state, an additional element or something that you can use in your war, in your effort to target someone who is an undesirable to the system, essentially. Right.

 

So yeah, it’s absolutely disgusting!

 

Okay, so yes, tell us and then we’ll get to some questions here too, guys. We appreciate you get a bunch of questions to get to, and comments.

 

But yeah, the party then. So tell us about how these ideas formulated and the fact that you were at a point here, like the legal process in Australia makes it fairly easy as far as I understand it. And I’m sure there’s hoops you have to jump through as always. But in terms of actually registering it and even the possibility of getting a seat in a county, I’m not sure if you call a county down there, but explain this to us a little bit.

 

[1:14:22]

 

Thomas Sewell: Okay. Well, from the start, Australia has two houses. It has what’s called an Upper House and a Lower House. Our Upper House is a Senate and you get elected based off the, a larger, … How to explain it?

 

So you can get Senators in quite easily if you broadly get a vote across the state. So even though it’s a federal election, you might only need somewhere between 1 and 10% of the state to vote for you. And again, it’s not a straightforward, it’s not an exact percentage that you need. Some people get 7% of the vote and they don’t get a Senator. Some people get 2% of the vote and they get a Senator. It’s all about preferencing schemes and deals and there’s a lot of dodgy stuff that goes on in the Australian system, which should all be eradicated, but we just have to work with what we’ve got.

 

But if you get say 10% of the vote, you’re almost guaranteed to get a Senate seat, and that’s 10% of the vote, regardless of where they are living in that state. And then each state, I think has, I don’t know, I think there’s like 49. No, there’d be more than 49. I think it’s 75 Senators in total, something like that. And they’re spread out across the state at a federal level.

 

But then you have the Lower House, which are called MPs or it’s the House of Representatives and you have to actually win the majority of the vote within what you would call a county. We call it an electorate.

 

And so the state is broken down into say, I think 49 electorates and or it actually depends. I think it’s 120,000 people per electorate, roughly. Some are 100,000, some 140,000, but roughly it’s 120,000 people or 120,000 voters, one or the other. And you have to win 51% or 50.1% of the vote to get that seat. Now you don’t have to win 50% of the primary vote, you have to do these preferencing schemes with all these other parties, because we’re not a two party system like in America where it’s Republican or Democrat. The Labor Party might get 34% of the vote, then the Green Party might get 8% of the vote, that makes 42. And then as long as their coalition is bigger than the coalition of the Liberals, then they get the seat.

 

So there’s like, I don’t know, 200 MPs across the country and 75 Senators, something like that, or those aren’t exact numbers. Just go on Wikipedia and you can find out exactly! But what’s important to know is that we have these two different houses. Kind of like how you’ve got Congressmen and Senators and kind of like how in the UK they’ve got the House of Lords and then they’ve got the ministers, or, sorry, not the ministers, the MPs.

 

So we have MPs and we have Senators and they’re different, they’re elected on different bases. Now we’re not really going to contest the Lower House. Even though there’s more seats available, those seats are much harder to get because you need to actually be the dominant political force in that area, which if you’re not in the major parties, is almost impossible.

 

For example, the Green Party in Australia is the third biggest party in Australia and they have 11 Senators or 10 Senators. And I think they only have one MP. And that could have been from a defection. I don’t know if actually. No, it might have been an actual victory in the Lower House.

 

So that’s basically all the MP seats are controlled by the Liberal Party and Labor Party, the two big parties. They’ve got like a monopoly on the Lower House, duopoly, or jewopoly.

 

And then the Senate is actually more diverse. It’s got all the micro parties in it. It’s got One Nation’s got four or five seats. The Greens have got 10 seats. There’s all these niche parties with one or two seats. So they have a lot more power in the Senate. And how that works is the Lower House passes bills. So they’ll say we want to introduce new legislation or we want to introduce new laws. And they’ll draft it up, they’ll write it up. They have to make their deals in the Lower House to get the Bill to pass through the Lower House, which is where the Prime Minister is. We don’t have a president. So the Prime Minister doesn’t have any executive power at passing bills. His executive powers come from his cabinet.

 

So it’s more about the management of the country. That’s where his power comes from. He can’t manage the Lower House. He’s just the Prime Minister. He’s the prime speaker in the Lower House. He doesn’t have like, I don’t believe he has any veto ability. If he does, someone in the chat correct me, but I don’t believe the Prime Minister has any vetoing ability. There’s all sorts of niche crazy laws. Because we’ve got like the British Parliament system, we’re basically operating a British Parliament that’s slightly modified. So there’s a Speaker of the House and there’s a Leader of the House, all sorts of stuff going on.

 

But the general rule is that once the Bill passes through the Lower House, it then has to go to the Upper House, which is the Senators, and then has to be passed through the Upper House as well.

 

So if we can get guys in the Senate, we can block bills that are bad for White Australians and we can agree to bills that are good for White Australians. And we can quite easily in the next one or three between one and three election cycles. So between three to nine years from now, we can quite easily, quite easily, hold the balance in the Senate!

 

Henrik Palgren: Interesting!

 

Thomas Sewell: So what that, what that would mean is we might only need five seats in the Senate and we could quite easily swing, … A lot of these bills. They can be swung by one or two votes in the Senate. So it might pass easily through the Lower House, but then it gets the Senate, it won’t get through the Senate. So we can block some bad stuff coming through. And obviously that can then tie in with our general political strategy.

 

Obviously, we don’t believe that there’s a pure Parliamentary solution. Obviously, we’re working in so many different ways to build parallel society and parallel function in this country.

 

And obviously the meta-political shift and the cultural shift that we’re trying to make, which is our primary concern is getting Australians to identify as White people. The problem is that they don’t identify as White people. Well, they’re starting to. And that’s where we’re seeing our success, is they’re starting to identify as White people again, which is how it was. And we need to get back.

 

And what we’re seeing with this Bondi thing, for example, is for the first time ever, in the “most successful multicultural” country in the world, we’re seeing actually a lot of mainstream criticizm of multiculturalism. So multiculturalism is like the golden calf in Australia. They worship it. They absolutely worship it! Multiculturalism is the replacement to the White Australia Policy.

 

So for the first, no one’s allowed to criticize multiculturalism. If you criticize it, you have to criticize it in a way that:

 

“Oh, they’re not assimilating enough! Of course I support multiculturalism, but I just want a better version of multiculturalism.”

 

You know, I mean that’s the only way that people really criticize multiculturalism in Parliament, within the political realm. But what we’re finally seeing now is genuine criticizm and a grassroots dislike of multiculturalism in Australia. But there’s not one political party that’s against multiculturalism. We’re the only one.

 

So can we get 5% of the vote? Can we get 10? Can we get 20? Can we get 30? I don’t know. I don’t have the answer to that at this stage. Time will tell, and we’ll see how bad the country gets and how radical and how racialized politics becomes. But we are succeeding in what we’re doing. We have about double the amount of people that are signed up to support us. However, only half of those people are signed up to actually go on the registrar, which is a private form with the AEC. It’s not the government. The AEC is a third party that is obviously a government institution, but it’s a unique third party that has never leaked data of membership lists.

 

Henrik Palgren: So this would be the first! No, I’m just joking! Because it would, …

 

[1:22:10]

 

 

Thomas Sewell: It would be the first time. Well, how they doxed the One Nation list back in 1998 or 1999, but they didn’t dox it from the AEC. The AEC didn’t have a breach of privacy. They’re a professional institution. They’re civn ats mostly, but they’re professional institution, and they’re a patriotic institution in that sense. But the way that the list of One Nation members got leaked was by jews in the party. Jews in the party leaked it!

 

So they had, there were jews in the party that had access to the list and they leaked it to their friends that didn’t like the party. Whereas we don’t have any jews in our party.

 

Henrik Palgren: First time in history!

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s only about four people in the organization. Maybe a fifth. Yeah, there’s four or five people that have access to the list. I am one of them, obviously.

 

But yeah, it’s held in the absolute tightest of circles. There’s some state leaders that don’t even have access to the list. If they asked for it, we would give it to them. I would let any state leader see the list.

 

But yeah, it’s a very, it’s a secret document. I mean, ASIO would probably be able to see the list because they could probably hack into our computers. But look, what are they going to do with it? What are ASIO going to do with it?

 

Henrik Palgren: No, sure. No, I get the point. I’m just saying, …

 

Thomas Sewell: The fact is there’s 3400 people on the list, so I wouldn’t be concerned. So there’s some Australians:

 

“I don’t want to sign up to the party because then ASIO is going to know I exist!”

 

It’s like, look, you’re probably already on a list from being racist on Facebook and liking The Noticer. You know [chuckling] what I mean?

 

Like if you follow particular pages on Facebook, you’re probably already on their list. I guess you would just be on a maybe a different list.

 

But again, I’ve said this for years. It’s strength in numbers. It’s strength in numbers. And we share the risk. We share the risk. When there’s 10,000 names on the list, which maybe in a year or two there will be, what matters? Why does it matter if you’re one of ten thousand? I mean, if you’re one of ten thousand, what’s going to happen to you? The police, I mean, how much resources they’re going to have to harass? The way the police harass us is they prioritize who’s most important to harass. So they harass the leadership. 90% of our membership have never been harassed by the police. They’ve had no issues with the police.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And I mean, that’s membership of our activist core. I’m not talking about membership of the party. I’m saying 90% of our activists because we’re so big now, the vast majority have never even been tested. So only the kind of guys that have been around four or five years have really any experience with repeated harassment from the police.

 

So, yeah, I would say that’s the party website. Well, that’s the org website. Obviously, the party is a part of the org. We’re looking at putting forward our four big policies in January next year.

 

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So we just had a series of seminars where we covered our four policies. They’re not on the website yet. I’ve copped a little bit of criticizm for that, but it will be up on the website soon. We’re just polishing them. We had a seminar last weekend across all the States except New South Wales because they’re preparing for nationals. Where we covered, we had one speaker per policy. And the four policies are simple.

 

We want the White Australia Policy to be reinstated, meaning we don’t want Australia to be a multicultural country anymore, we don’t want it to be a multiracial country anymore. And we want to start reversing the demographic avalanche of White people and start going back the other way and making Australia more White. And with the ultimate goal of making it entirely White.

 

And obviously that is going to involve a combination of mass deportations and also re-migration strategies. So we’d be looking at changing a whole number of laws. Is that going to happen anytime soon? No, but what we can do is start moving things in the right direction by taking a little bit of state control. So our biggest priority is protecting our demographics.

 

And so if we can protect the demographics of this country then all the other sort of Weimar conditions are fixable. You know, demographics are well not permanent. But demographics are destiny obviously. And that’s really our priority as a party. That’s why it’s policy number one is just protecting White Australia, protecting our demographics. And not just protecting it, but advancing our demographics. So we’ve gone from 99% White to about 66% White or 67% White in a period of around 50 years. So what we want to look at doing over the next 50 years or less, ideally a lot less, ideally over the next 10 years. But I’m realistic, it might take a bit more than 10 years. We want to look at going back up towards 99% and beyond.

 

Policy number two is called “End Debt Slavery”. So we’re going to ban obviously in the same principle as the White Australia Policy, the first principle of End Debt Slavery is we’re going to ban interest on family home loans.

 

So we’re going to guarantee every single Australian family an interest free home loan. They’ll get money lent to them by the State bank. So we’re going to take back the state bank.

 

So we had a state bank in Australia called the Commonwealth Bank. It’s since been privatized in 1996 and it’s worth, I don’t know, something like $1.3 trillion. And we’re going to take back ownership of the state bank and we’re going to use the state bank, the Commonwealth bank, to lend money to young families that are married, that are White Australians and they’re going to get interest free loans to buy houses.

 

And that’s how we’re going to fix the housing crisis is we’re going to deport millions of non-Whites which is going to massively free up the market. And then White Australians that want to buy a home or White Australians that currently have a home, all the interest is going to be wiped off the principal. So any new loan will be no interest. And any current loan, not only will you not pay interest going forward, but also any interest you have paid is going to be refunded to you off your principal.

 

So a lot of people are going to have their homes basically instantly paid off because most people have already paid more than their homes worth in interest. If they’re like Gen-X’s for example, if they’re more in the older sort of family bracket, they’ve got teenage kids and stuff, a lot of these people have already paid off their homes in interest alone. So that’s policy number two.

 

Policy number three is we’re going to do something called a “New Magna Carta”, or a Bill of Rights. We’re going to create an Australian Bill of Rights. Australia doesn’t have a Bill of Rights. So policy three is we’re going to introduce a series of rights and duties, a series of freedoms that we think are fundamental to being Australian and members of Western civilization, members of the White race. And we’re going to introduce these things in order to curtail the ever increasing Police State we live in and the powers of the tyranny of the government. So we want to reduce government power and increase citizen power.

 

So that’s things like a First Amendment. So like free speech, we don’t have that in our constitution. We have an implied right and that’s not good enough, because it’s being twisted and turned. We need to have a really explicit principle so that we get rid of all this hate speech legislation and all this religious vilification legislation. We want to get rid of all of that and give Australians the right to freedom of speech. And the right to criticize the government, even criticize us as much as we’re, you know, authoritarians, we’ll cop fair criticizm, obviously.

 

Other principles include, we want to do like a maximum 10% income tax. We want to include gun rights, but we’re going to be very tactful for how we include gun rights. So I want to do the Swiss model personally. I’m flexible and I’m open minded to how we could implement a Second Amendment in Australia.

 

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Bu I want to do it in the Swiss model. Meaning you would do a national service at a high school. You would get issued a firearm during your national service and then you would retain that military style semi-automatic rifle or fully automatic rifle, but you would maintain that rifle as you would never be a civilian again. You would do your national service and that would make you a citizen. Kind of Starship Troopers kind of Fascism 101.

 

But it’s also just Athenian. It’s an Athenian model. It’s actually the foundation of democracy in some ways, the citizen soldier.

 

So that’s how we would look at implementing it. It wouldn’t be a strict Second Amendment the way you guys have it in Australia [America], because we need a lot of cultural change. We need, I think a few generations or at least one generation to breathe. To fix a lot of these issues. We don’t want to just have like guns galore just overnight without those kind of cultural changes.

 

And then policy four is re-industrialization. So that’s pretty simple. It’s really about taking back our infrastructure. Australia being an economic powerhouse again. Not just getting stripped of all its natural resources and being sent off to the developing world. We want to build all of our stuff here again. We want to build cars here again. We want to build ships here again. We’re an island. We should have a massive shipping capacity. We’re so reliant on trade. We should be a naval superpower. We should be we’re already a resource superpower. We have all the raw materials to do it. We need to re-industrialize.

 

We need to invest, take control of the RBA, the Reserve Bank of Australia, take control of the Commonwealth bank and do some serious, serious economy building in a completely different direction using high tech manufacturing and reclaim our economic autarky, or at least a large percentage of it.

 

So those are the four policies that’s what we’re putting forward.

 

Obviously there’s a lot of things mixed in amongst that you know, people talk about education Reform and you know, getting rid of multiculturalism will do a lot of what we want for education reform.

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s a lot to take in. No, obviously everyone needs to visualize that.

 

So the website, we’re going to have nice little graphics made up and there’ll be a little write up of each policy. And when you check the website out at some point, either late, probably not late January, probably February, but the policies will be announced soon. And I assume the website will be very neat and tidy by February with the policies.

 

Henrik Palgren: Very good. Nice. Holden, was that the car the Australia used to produce?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, [chuckling] right. Yeah, we made Fords as well. Fords and Holden, Yeah.

 

Henrik Palgren: Like a version of Ford Australia, right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Kind of yeah. And Holden’s just General Motors.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, okay, I see. Did you have any like native cars that you actually like?

 

Thomas Sewell: Holden is the native brand that was eventually owned by General Motors.

 

Henrik Palgren: We’re gonna have an Aryan future Tom. They’re gonna be flying cars. Okay!

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, there’s gonna be all. Look, I’m not gonna go too much into policy four because it’s a bottomless pit of what we can do.

 

Henrik Palgren: Powered by vril!

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re gonna do the craziest shit! We’re gonna do stuff no one’s ever seen before. We’re gonna terraform Australia. We’re gonna actually terraform it.

 

Henrik Palgren: There you go.

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re gonna do crazy shit! We’re gonna do inland lake, high speed rail, flying cars, …

 

Henrik Palgren: That’s the spirit! That’s the spirit right there!

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s gonna be vriltastic!

 

Henrik Palgren: Vriltastic. I just want to play this.

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re gonna give Australia a sense of purpose again. It’s not just about race and it’s not removing the slavery.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: White Australians without debt or without interest still have a demoralized attitude. What we’re trying to do is raise that spirit. It’s about a spiritual revival.

 

And I think part of that, because I’m not too big at talking about economics, although I’ve studied it a fair bit in my own time, but where economics is important is that most people, 99% of men need to go to work Monday to Friday. They need to. It’s a big part of their identity. It’s a big part of their purpose. And where most White men are lacking in purpose is not just from a racial perspective and not just from a demoralization in terms of the culture and the media and the movies they’re watching and the music they’re listening to. And the way that they’re being completely subverted at an economic level. It’s also when they go to work, what are they doing? Like, I worked in the construction industry for about five years, almost six years. And you go to work and you’re building what we call Jeet boxes. A Jeet box is these fucking shitty little townhouses with like all these different multi-roofs on them. They’re just the dumb. This is the dumbest fucking architecture style you ever see in your life! It’s the most ineffective, inefficient way to build a house you could possibly imagine. And it’s a dog box with no room on it, no backyard. The roofs are all touching each other, so they’re a separate dwelling, but not really. And it’s just so demoralizing just putting a roof on something like that. It just feels disgusting!

 

And then one day a month, you get a contract, or a cashy or something, and it’s some guy on a farm and he’s got 200 acres and he needs a new roof on his shed. And you go out, you drive an extra hour and a half to go to this guy’s farm. And you put the roof on the shed and you have a beer with the boys afterwards. And you just look at each other and you just say:

 

“What if every day was like this? What if every day was like this? Like, how good did today feel?”

 

Like the weather could have been awful! It doesn’t matter. And it just feels so good to just be on some land and just to build something and then and you can have a relationship with the guy you’re building it for. Like the farmer comes out of his house, he’s like:

 

“How you going boys? You know, you wanna iced coffee or something? I’ll get the Mrs to make you one.”

 

And like you, after work you can sit back and you can chat a bit and then you get in the car and you drive home.

 

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But when you’re in these jeet boxes, like the dust and the muck and Indians are coming out of their house next to you and oh, it’s just so demoralizing. It’s just, why am I doing this? Why am I building this disgusting, ugly, grotty filth for these people to just replace me? So we want to bring back the Australian dream. Not just in the:

 

“Oh, I’ve got a nice house and I’ve got a nice backyard and I’ve got a golden retriever and a white picket fence.”

 

It’s not just about getting it back in that sense. It’s, well, what are you doing to get it? So we want to completely revolutionize the economy in a way that people actually feel a sense of pride, going to work again. Which I think Australians and Americans and Europeans, they probably had that 50 years ago.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, I think you’re right. Absolutely! Yeah. I wanted to play this clip here and I’m going to take some of the comments and questions from the audience watching here. But Robert Menzies, he was the 12th Prime Minister of Australia. He served from 1939-41 and then his second term from 46. Was that all the way to his retirement in 1966? Did he serve that long? Do you remember? Was that long? Or it must have been interrupted.

 

Anyway, it doesn’t matter. I want to play a clip with him. That’s the point on the White Australia Policy. Right. So listen to this here. I’m sure you’ve seen the clip, but let’s play it for the audience here.

 

Stewart Lamb: Do you believe that the White, the so-called “White Australia” policy will always be a stumbling block?

 

Sir Robert Menzies: I don’t think it’s such a stumbling block as people pretend, but that it’s important for us, I haven’t the slightest doubt!

Stewart Lamb: That we should maintain it the way it is?

Sir Robert Menzies: As long as we possibly can we ought to aim at having a homogeneous population!

I don’t want to see reproduced in Australia the kind of problem they have in South Africa, or in America, or increasingly in Great Britain. I think it’s been a very good policy and it’s been of great value to us.

And most of the criticizm of it that I’ve ever heard doesn’t come from these oriental countries. It comes from (((wandering Australians))).

Stewart Lamb: For these views of course, in the past, Sir Robert, you have been described as a racist.

Sir Robert Menzies: Have I?

Stewart Lamb: I have read this, yes.

Sir Robert Menzies: Well, if I were not described as a racist, I’d be the only public man who hasn’t been! That’s one of these jargons, isn’t it? One of these modern words, you call a man a “racist”.

 

[END]

 

All right, what do you make of that? That’s how it used to be. Right? So this was like an idea. This is what I’m saying. What you’re proposing here is not some new radical thing. This is just basically going back to what the intention of the country was to begin with and the people running it.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yes. I really. A little bit of a red herring, but I really like the way he describes jews as “wandering Australians”.

 

Henrik Palgren: I figured that’s what it was! [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. That was a dog whistle back in the day. Yeah. You know:

 

“We don’t get this kind of criticizm from the Orientals. We get this kind of criticizm from the wandering Australians.”

 

Henrik Palgren: Exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: Same thing as Nixon, because this is around the same time as Nixon. This is where you’ve got the conservative Right in power and back in the 60s, and they’re starting to realize that the jewish problem is what’s trying to destroy the nation. And it’s very clear from day dot that the jewish community here in Australia and obviously in America and Britain have been working fervently hard to dismantle the homogeneous White population and turn it into Babylon, so that they can hide in the mess that they make and they can hide their crimes. And yeah, as you said, that is how Australia was.

 

Another thing that’s interesting is how much the accent has changed. I obviously don’t have a pure Australian accent. I’m referred to a lot as a South African, but I’m actually not a South African. I have extended family in South Africa, but my accent is because my parents are both English.

 

So you can actually tell from these old politicians. Australians actually spoke with more of an English accent. They were more connected to the mother country in that sense. And the accent has definitely degraded, I think. And it’s more, it’s too ocka now. It’s become more and more uncouth. I know that I can’t really talk much. Also there was an increase of, there was just so much English immigration into Australia. So that would have maintained the properness of the English accent.

 

[1:40:08]

 

But yeah, what can you say about that? What I see as a statesman, we used to have statesmen in charge of the country. If I was living in 1966, would I have agreed with Menzies? Probably not. There probably would have been someone more racist than Menzies. I probably would have been like:

 

“Menzies a cuck!”

 

Or whatever [chuckling] the 1966 version of that was. Like:

 

“Menzies is too soft on the (((wandering Australian))). We need a, we need a more strict approach to the wandering Australian question!”

 

But yeah, it’s definitely obvious that Canada, Australia, even America to a large degree. There’s a lot of infrastructure, sort of rhetorical infrastructure in the founding of our nations. And you can find it.

 

I mean, I did a speech, a 45 minute speech on the weekend and I mentioned in the speech I had a legal friend who’s looked through the Constitution very thoroughly. The founding father of Australia or the first prime minister of Australia, Edmund Barton. Someone was arguing with him while they were drafting the Constitution in 1898. So it came out in 1901, but they spent about three years drafting it. And in 1898 he had an argument with another politician and they were asking about:

 

“Why have you put this race, this specific race power law in?”

 

And the first Prime Minister of Australia said:

 

“Basically we need a race power law because we need to be able to mass deport non-Whites when we don’t want them.”

 

And he didn’t even use the term “non-Whites”. He basically said:

 

“Inferior people and races, inferior and colored races. We should be able to deport them as a whole, when we don’t need them.”

 

So like if we need them to pick sugarcane, for example, like the way that you had blacks picking cotton, we had Pacific Islanders picking sugarcane in Queensland. The idea was before Federation we had, I can’t remember what they call them. “Coolies[refers to Chinese workers], I think, or Kanakas*, I think they had a slur for them.

 

[* Plantation owners in Queensland had experienced difficulty in hiring laborers for their plantations, especially for the pay rates that were being offered. It was said that this situation was hindering the economic viability of those rural businesses. Many pastoralists had used convicts as laborers, but when the transportation of convicts to New South Wales ended in 1840, this meant that the plantation owners lost a major source of cheap labor. The lack of cheap labor for cotton and sugar plantations in Queensland led to the advent of Kanaka immigration. Kanakas (as laborers from the Pacific Islands were called) were imported in large numbers to work in Australia (especially in Queensland, but also in northern New South Wales). The term “Kanaka” means “man” or “person” in the Hawaiian language. Souce: Https:// www. Australianculture.org/the-white-Australia-policy-kanakas /]

 

But they had these Pacific islanders come in and pick sugarcane and they wanted to make sure there was legislation that if they brought in a thousand of them, they picked the sugar cane and then they could force them on a boat to go home when it was done, so that they could keep Australia White. And he won the argument and they put it in the Constitution. So in the Australian constitution, there’s a race power law where we can just mass deport people on the basis of their race.

 

Henrik Palgren: All right!

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s the kind of country. Yeah. So we’re doing well here. We’re doing well here.

 

Henrik Palgren: Nice.

 

Thomas Sewell: So I’m very excited. I’m very excited. We’re breath of fresh air for the political system. The Australian people are begging! They’re begging for a real Right-wing party. And we’re getting a lot of support. And we have a lot of people come down to our seminars, our political meetings, and say:

 

“Hey, look, I’ve been a Liberal Party member my whole life. I’ve gone to Liberal Party meetings my whole life and I’ve never seen anything like this. I’m so glad to see proud, patriotic Australians!”

 

And the feedback has just been amazing! The feedback, especially the older generation, like all the Boomers coming down, just saying thank, like basically just:

 

“Thank you, finally we’re seeing men that are just red blooded!”

 

And I’ve haven’t been to a Liberal Party meeting in a really long time. But I’ve had friends go and some of our members get paid to go to Liberal Party meetings [chuckling] because they got to fill seats. And the young guys that don’t have jobs, they’re like:

 

“All right, I’ll take the 100 bucks.”

 

And it’s that embarrassing, the Liberal Party at the moment. But they just report back and they just say:

 

“It’s just old people that are dying, that are just like falling asleep. And the people speaking are just homosexuals!”

 

It’s just homosexuals and girl bosses and that’s it. And they just useless rhetoric. And it’s just uninspiring. It’s just boring. And it’s just a freight train just running out of steam basically.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: And that’s the system. It’s just a freight train running out of steam. They’ve got the momentum of decades and decades of organizing behind them.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: And I mean, the parties are shrinking. The political parties here in Australia have never been so small. I think the Liberal Party has gone from like 60,000 members a decade ago to like, I think they’re barely getting 20,000 now. And I mean, just in the last election cycle, I think they’ve gone from 30,000 to 20,000 just in one election cycle.

 

Henrik Palgren: It’s fascinating! So, like, everyone’s checking out, but like the bureaucracy, the paperwork, the same. The scum that have the motivation, I guess, just to kind of get into that dirty world and keep it going. That’s what just is causing it to move on for now.

 

Thomas Sewell: We haven’t even put policies on our website yet and we’re already tracking to be the sixth biggest party in Australia out of the like 100 parties that are in Australia.

 

Henrik Palgren: That’d be hilarious!

 

[1:45:04]

 

Thomas Sewell: So the hype is real. The hype is real! Like a lot of people are hyping it online. And I don’t want people thinking like:

 

“Oh, we’re gonna have Prime Minister Thomas Sewell!”

 

That’s not likely. I want to make it clear that’s not likely at all! The chance of that is probably 1%. It’d have to be really happening for something like that to happen. It’d be like Ron Paul would have a meltdown. It’d be that kind of happening.

 

Henrik Palgren: And as we know, nothing ever happens.

 

Thomas Sewell: Until it happens. Nothing ever happens until it happens. And then one day it happens!

 

Henrik Palgren: Let me ask you this, Tom, though, because obviously you will be, as you know, and I’m sure you’ve thought about this too, you will be dealt with or treated on a totally different level. I mean, you would potentially see for the democratic system to defend itself, it would basically unravel the very definitions and guardrails that makes it being able to term itself as a democracy. I would reckon. What do you expect the pushback will be? And the way they will just say:

 

“No, you can’t do that!”

 

Right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Just empty words. Just empty words. I think there’s probably less than a 10% chance they’ll be able to block us. I’m very confident it’s all going to go ahead. The black pillers need to be gassed! All the black pillers, just gas them!

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, no! And I’m not. When I bring, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I’m not saying you’re black pilling.

 

Henrik Palgren: Sure. Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: What I’m saying is there’s people online, I see comments every now and then where it’s like:

 

“They’re just gonna shut them down and make it illegal! And they’re all gonna go to jail!”

 

And it’s like, shut up! You’re either a jew or you’ve got your dick taped between your legs. Like, it’s just the most disgusting, demoralized, weak kind of energy. It’s so anti-Australian. Australians, we’re on a frontier we’re the frontier of the world and we’re surrounded on all sides by non-Whites. We’ve got a very harsh landscape, you know, we’ve allegedly got all these animals that try to kill us and to be like. And to be like:

 

“Oh, the government’s gonna shut us down, we can’t do anything!”

 

Is just the most weak cunt energy, like just fuck off! Go live somewhere else. This land is not built for weak cunts! This is hard cunt territory here and we don’t tolerate that shit! And those people, a lot of the time I think that they’re just jews. I think a lot of the time it’s just jews trying to sow fear in people that support us. The chances of the government blocking us is very low because they don’t have the framework to do it. They would have to nuke the whole system to do it. And are they prepared to do that? I don’t think they got the balls. I mean, you’ve got some rogue, really rogue politicians like Christopher Minns, who’s the New South Wales premier, saying that:

 

“He’s going to block the party and we’re not going to let this party come to power. And we’re going to dox all the members!”

 

And the AEC came out and made a statement saying:

 

“You can’t do that.”

 

And you’ve got like all these other Senators and all these other political leaders coming out and saying:

 

“Well, actually, we can’t do that. We have to let them. If they follow the rules, we have to let them.”

 

So it’s just basically kevtching like a bunch of losers. And it’s good. The more they kevtch, the better because it shows that they’re afraid and it doesn’t pass the pub test. And the average Aussie sees that on the news and goes:

 

“What? You want to ban this party? Why?”

 

And then they go on the website and they’re like:

 

“Oh, cool, I get all the interest paid off my mortgage and there’s less Indians. Fuck, that actually sounds all right!”

 

What we’re doing is really controversial from the concept that the country’s being destroyed by people that hate it! But it’s not controversial to the average Aussie, it really passes the pub test. And the idea that they want to ban it. The way the Australian psyche works is very clear. If the government wants to ban something, the average Aussie has this rebellious nature where they go:

 

“Why? Why does the government want to ban that?”

 

And they’ll look into it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, and that was my point, right? Bring it up. It’s a win-win regardless, right? It will expose the system or you actually have a foot in through the door. And either way it’s a plus.

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re inevitable no matter what our strategy is. And we’ve got insurance policies, we’re not putting all our eggs in this one basket. But we see it as part of a matrix of power. And you can’t just build a political party. You have to build everything. It’s all about the back end. A political party is just, it’s not a front, but a political party it’s just the presence of power.

 

[1:49:50]

 

 

The real power of the Labor Party, for example, is not the Labor Party. It’s all the trade unions they control and all the non-White community groups that have all as a bloc joined the Labor Party, as a mosque, as a church, as a Chinese community center, as a, whatever it is.

 

Again, going back to the Liberal Party, whenever there is an influx of members in the Liberal Party because they just, every year they’re getting less and less and less members. But one branch might have an extra 200 members this year compared to last year. And how did that happen? How did that happen? How have they got 200 extra members? Well, we might have a friend, or a colleague or an associate that is, on paper, a member of that branch so that they can keep an eye on it. And they’ll tell us, they’ll report back to me and they’ll say:

 

“Oh, yep, some rich Chinese businessman just joined the party. He made a deal with the people that run that branch and he just got 200 of his laborers to sign up at the party.”

 

So he just signs up all the people that work for him and says:

 

“You have to do this. You work for me. You have to do this.”

 

Because they’re Chinese, they’ll just be like:

 

“Yes, sir.”

 

And they do it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah. Yep, Correct.

 

Thomas Sewell: And that’s the only way the Liberal Party or the Labor Party are getting these massive influxes. It’s just like rich Chinese or rich Indian businessmen or community leaders. The Chinese operate primarily through business, so they don’t have community leaders the way the Indians and the Muslims do, or the jews do. Well, the jews have both, obviously. They have business leaders and they have community leaders. But the Chinese, because they don’t have a religion and because they can’t organize as the, CCP, they organize as a front for the CCP, which is through CCP business here in Australia.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep. Correct.

 

Thomas Sewell: And they bring in all their workers, they get their workers PR [Permanent Residency], then they get their workers citizenship, and then they start becoming a voting bloc.

 

Henrik Palgren: All right.

 

Thomas Sewell: The hype is real! The Whites are leaving the major parties in droves, and the major parties are only retaining their numbers through the influx of browns.

 

And that’s why multiculturalism is their death rattle. That’s why they won’t ever give it up, because it’s the only way they can maintain their party.

 

So we’re forcing the dialectic. We’re heightening the contradictions. Everything that we’re doing is tactical. Everything we’re doing is strategic. And people for years have been saying:

 

“Oh, they’re wignats, they’re dumb, they don’t know what they’re doing. You got to join the Republican Party and you’ve got to subvert it from the inside.”

 

It’s like, these people are not creative thinkers and they’re not high IQ and they’re not morally courageous. The way you change the demographic destiny of the country is you have to schism the forces. And you have to put your flag up high. You have to raise the banner high! That’s the song. That’s the song! We’ve got the song, the Banner High!

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: You know, you got to raise the flag high and you got to say:

 

“Hello! Hello! We’re the Whites! We’re doing the White people thing!”

 

Henrik Palgren: It’s time.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. In America, that’s really hard! But it’s hard becauseyou guys haven’t laid the framework over the last 50 years, and we haven’t either. In Australia, we’re only picking this up. Well, there has been some that have tried, and obviously in America, people have tried, but we have built the meta-political energy that can be converted, or a portion of it can be converted into contesting a system that’s not a duopoly. You know, we’ve got that European style politics, but it wasn’t always like that. 20, 30 years ago we had the American style politics. The Greens were like 1% of the vote and that was like the third biggest party. Like you had the Australian Christians and you had like the Nationals, but the Nationals formed a coalition with the Liberals and then they became known as the Coalition.

 

And so you had like 95 plus percent of the vote in two parties. Now it’s like 70 or less. So it’s moving more and more into that European style and you have to just do the framework. So you just have to do the groundwork, you have to do the legwork.

 

Henrik Palgren: What I like about it is that it’s a different approach to it. Right. And you’re seeing that elsewhere too, that with numbers comes power and you build something else first as opposed to doing like, here’s a new political, well, who’s going to join a new political party, kind of thing. Right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, what caliber of people as well.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: How do you put a hierarchy?

 

Henrik Palgren: Exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: Because there’s so much to do. I mean, yeah, we have a lot of people joining the party now that want to tell us what to do and they don’t want to be part of the organization.

 

So now we’re in a situation where we’re dealing with, well, how are we going to constitutionally frame the party and the organization together? Because there are a lot of people that are looking at the party and going:

 

“Holy shit! This could work!”

 

This not necessarily work in terms of take over the country, but this could become the third biggest party in the country quite quickly, or at least the fourth biggest party in the country quite quickly. This could be the Right-wing’s alternative to the Greens. And we could see One Nation form a coalition with the Liberal Party. But what we’re seeing is so much fracturing on the Right. We’re seeing a real contender on the Right coming out from the hardest possible position and they’re going:

 

“I’m going to get in this early.”

 

But they don’t want to be involved with the community. They don’t want to do the activism, they don’t want to do the push ups in the park, but they might have a good understanding of policy.

 

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And so what we’re dealing with at the moment is having that conversation with these people and say:

 

“Hey, look, we’ll take your feedback. You can help advise us.”

 

I mean, depending on their skills, depending on what they are. But if you want to be a decision maker in the party, you have to join the order. And that’s rattling their minds a little bit because they’re used to:

 

“Oh, I joined the Liberal Party and I became the branch leader of the Liberal Party because I won a popularity contest.”

 

Or they join One Nation and same thing:

 

“Oh, I’ve joined this political party and I did this and I joined that political party. I did this.”

 

And then they’re joining our political party and then it doesn’t work like that.

 

And so that’s where we’re trying to balance democracy, which is an innate instinct of the public. They want to have a voice. They want to be involved and engaged in the process. But yeah, but at the same time, we’re a hierarchy. We’re building an order of men that are committed to fixing the country. And you have to be part of that order of men if you want to be within the leadership of the political party, or if you want to run as a candidate, for example.

 

Henrik Palgren: Very good.

 

All right, let me take some of these questions and comments here. Albert, first out the gates. Thank you so much, Albert. Huge dono. He says:

 

“Hi, Henrik. Looking forward to tonight show. Thomas Sewell is always one of my favorite guests. Especially looking forward to hearing his take on the Bondi beach shooting. Great show yesterday too. Take care.”

 

Thank you so much, Albert. We appreciate you so much. Thank you for your incredible support. Derek Rance, good to see you as well. Derek says:

 

“Thanks in advance for the show. It sounds like they are preparing Canada for the next extreme event to tighten the laws here.”

 

I’m sure they are. Good to see you, Derek, as always. Dercherso says:

 

“Good episode, good guest and good takes.”

 

Thank you, dear. Shabir, Gustav says:

 

“Hi Henrik. Finally able to catch the show live for change. Very impressive by Sewell.”

 

Yeah, we all are. Very good:

 

“Keep fighting the good fight, both of you.”

 

Thank you. Archie:

 

“Fascinating information. I missed the beginning. White power!”

 

Well, there you go. Thank you, Archie. Appreciate it. We got Alcion as well. Good to see you. Says:

 

“Happy to see Tom again. My question, Tom, so many of us around the world respect you tremendously and are taking notes from your group’s success. Do you think world jewery is hitting you especially hard because they understand your significance not just nationally, but globally?”

 

And he ends with:

 

“Hail Volk. Hail Red Ice and hail White Australia!”

 

Comments?

 

Thomas Sewell: World jewry has already done 99% of what it can do to us. And so now it’s got one left, one thing left to do to us. And I’m not sure if it’s prepared to do that one last thing. So there’s nothing more that it can do. I don’t have a bank account. I go into the bank, I can’t set one up. Yeah, I’ve been locked in solitary confinement. I’ve been framed, I’ve been imprisoned. You know, I’ve had unjust treatment through the courts. What else?

 

I mean, I’ve lost all the jobs. I can only work for friends now. The only work I can get is from people that are connected to our community, which is why building community is so important. You can’t just run away and hide from doxing for the rest of your life:

 

“I just don’t want to get doxed! I just don’t want to get doxed!”

 

That’s not a solution to the problem. That’s not even a band aid. That’s not even a band aid! Conflict avoidance doesn’t solve the problem.

 

The only way to solve the problem is insular communities, whether that’s big or small. Ideally, the bigger, the better. The bigger it is actually the more protected it is.

 

But we need to have communities. If you only know people on the Internet, you don’t even know their name. You’ve never even met their wife, you don’t even know what they do for work. Because people so worried about getting doxed, like everything’s hush hush, everything’s secret, like that’s the psyop! Not doxing yourself!

 

I mean, what more can the jews do other than kill me or try to kill me? I don’t know. There’s nothing more that they can do. There’s simply nothing that they haven’t already tried and failed. That they cannot stop what is coming. They cannot stop our determination, our will from triumphing. So well, it’s just assassination. That’s all they’ve got left.

 

So, Valhalla, here I come! I don’t care! I’m gonna keep going.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, yeah, I mean that’s the spirit you have to have, undoubtedly. And again it’s this is not gonna just go away. These sentiments, this mentality, the problems we’re faced with here and the reality of the situation is not just going to kind of morph into something else tomorrow on the Internet, because that’s a hip new topic to be into or something. I mean, this is not going away.

 

So, yeah, I’m with you. I think this is an inevitable trajectory for, again, I’m not saying the majority of White people, but a substantial enough portion of White people in order to make some real changes and clawing back control of our nations once again. I think it’s going to happen, you know, undoubtedly.

 

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Thomas Sewell: I think it’s intergenerational as well. I think that in Australia this is the first time we’ve probably had an intergenerational movement here in Australia, which shows you how far behind we are from Europe. What I’m talking about is we’ve got the first generation of 18 year olds coming through now whose dads are members of the organization or have been for a long time. You know, so that is kind of embarrassing that it took to the year 2025 to have that.

 

I mean, the Muslims don’t have that issue. Like any Muslim you meet on the street. I’m pretty sure their dads are Muslim. I’m pretty sure their granddads are Muslim. I’m pretty sure their great granddad’s a Muslim. I’m pretty sure they’ve been organizing politically as Muslims for their entire existence.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: So as White people, we need to have intergenerational White nationalism. That’s the only way we’re going to survive.

 

So we’re finally seeing that now here in Australia. And there’s a lot of power in that. We’ve got young guys that are being brought up in the community and the government fears it, like the government at the moment, the thing that they were talking about the most on the media about us in the lead up to Bondi, before the Bondi thing happened, other than imprisoning me and imprisoning Joel Davis, was the home-schooling network. They are petrified at our home-schooling network! And we don’t even have much of a home-schooling network. It’s just in its infancy. Literally, it’s in its infancy. We’ve mostly got toddlers because most of the men in the organization are young men and we’ve only just started having kids in the last five years. So, we don’t even really have a proper home-schooling network set up. We’re just going with it. We can’t even send our kids to kindergarten anyway because you have to be vaccinated in Australia to send your kid to kindergarten.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s a matter of necessity. It’s not just a matter of choice. It’s like even if we wanted to send our kids to kindergarten hypothetically, we actually legally can’t. We’d have to forge documents because our children are not allowed to go to kindergarten.

 

Henrik Palgren: Insane! Yeah. Homeschooling is banned in Sweden. Germany too.

 

Thomas Sewell: Of course.

 

Henrik Palgren: So no option. Incredible! Mr. Marsh Wood says:

 

“Hey, Tom, just want to say thank you for all what you guys are doing. I had a great time at the Victoria seminar and hope to attend more.”

 

He says. Do you have any comments? This was a local, for White Australia, the organization. That’s where you had the Victoria seminar?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, we had it in Melbourne. So all the capital cities except for Sydney, New South Wales, had a seminar last weekend. So we’re syncing everything up and we released the policies for the first time on Saturday.

 

Henrik Palgren: Nice. Awesome! Based rat 1488 says:

 

“Hey, Tom, these conspiracy theories are opening the light to show that the jews are at fault for this attack either way, for funding the Australian government to spread multiculturalism in Australia. BR.”

 

Not sure if you have any comments on that.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, sure. Of course the jews are behind multiculturalism in Australia. Yes. But I don’t think anyone in the media are talking about that. Like we are talking about it in our circles. But that’s very insulated.

 

And also you have to think tactically about it. You know, you can bring up that point. You can certainly approach that point. It could be considered a good time to approach that point. But the primary thing I believe that the movement needs to focus on when there’s a terror attack by Muslims against predominantly jews at Bondi beach, the primary point we need to come at it is that we don’t want either of these people here, that we want a sovereign country and that multiculturalism and the government are at fault. And yeah, I’m an anti-semite. I’m one of the most outspoken anti-semites in the fucking world! And I’m saying:

 

“Hey, guys, tactically it would be smart if we pile pressure on the government at this point. Like not to give away the tactic. But you gotta join the dog pile.”

 

Everyone’s attacking the government and for the right reasons or sometimes the wrong reasons. But, it’s not just all about, hey, let’s dogpile the jews while they’re being fucking shot. It’s like, look, there’s a time and a place to dogpile the jews, but it’s probably tactically smarter to dogpile the government when the jews are getting shot.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yes. About working with the energy, right? It’s like:

 

“No, no, it’s not the Muslims fault!”

 

You know, I’ve seen that too.

 

And that’s the thing with the:

 

“Well, that’s a false flag. The Manchester bombing was this or that.”

 

Thomas Sewell: These people have never met a Muslim!

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: Anyone that’s met a Muslim. Look, I don’t know any Muslims. I’m living quite insular at the moment. But because I’m not allowed to go to a commercial gym. I get banned from every commercial gym I go to, but I don’t care! We’ve got our own gyms, but sometimes I like training at like proper fight gyms. But like some of the boys train at proper fight gyms and they’re saying to me that when it happened, all the Muslims at the fight gym are just like:

 

“Inshallah, brother, more dead jews. This is awesome!”

 

Just like openly in front of Aussies, in front of like multiculturalism. Like they don’t give a fuck l like the Muslims don’t give a fuck! All right. So they say:

 

“Oh this guy’s not a real Muslim!”

 

It’s like:

 

“Nah, you don’t understand where we’re at. It’s not 2000 fucking, … It’s not 1995 anymore. Like those days are fucking gone! It’s fucking race war! Everyone knows it.”

 

 

[2:05:46]

 

Henrik Palgren: That’s right. Ghost Dogman says:

 

“Thomas is a great field expert on the Great War on Whites. I hope to see more from him on Red Ice TV. Free Joel!”

 

That’s right, Ghost Dogman. Thank you. J.C. Henderson, 94 says simply:

 

“Heil Red Ice. Heil Sewell. Thanks for doing what you’re doing.”

 

Well, thank you. Brian. 7316 says:

 

“Hi, and it’s great to see Tom on Red Ice again. He’s an Aussie hero. Like the Sewell’s charge against Antifa. Smiley face.”

 

There you go. Exactly! Very nice. Protector podcast:

 

“Hey Tom, I’m 15 year old from Australia that has been getting really into nationalism and National Socialism. I can’t join the NSN. I’m pretty. I’m a pretty tall and fit guy, at what age can I join?”

 

He’s asking you.

 

Thomas Sewell: As a general rule, we don’t accept applicants under the age of 16. Just as a general rule. Yeah, so.

 

Henrik Palgren: So you have to wait one year. Might just have to wait a year.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And even then between 16 and 18, we’re pretty discriminatory just because we don’t want to risk having someone join under the age of 18 that is a fucking, is an idiot! You know what I mean? We’ve had a lot of issues with people joining and not being honest to their parents.

 

And so we really only accept applicants under 18 now that have a good relationship with their parents. Because what we’ve got now is a whole state infrastructure set up where parents can now basically rat their children to the Stasi. And then it basically the parents can sign away their kid’s life to the government. So you know how like all that shit with like Britney Spears and how her dad like controlled her?

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, unfortunately I do remember that. Yeah, yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: Do you remember all that garbage? Yeah, it’s like it’s got a name to it. I can’t remember what the word is. But basically, if you’re under 18 and you join the Org and your parents are like full blown, like normgroid retards, they can basically call the government and be like:

 

“My son has joined NSN! He’s doing boxing at the park. Is he gonna be a terrorist?”

 

And then like a hysterical retard. And then basically the cops, then you’re just like chilling at home playing Minecraft or Roblox. And then the fucking feds rock up at your house and your parents let them in and then they come into your bedroom, they take your computer, they take your phone, they sit you down for like four hours and abuse you and tell you that you’re being brainwashed by maniacs:

 

“They’re gonna strap bombs to your chest and have you run at Muslims and have them blown up!”

 

And like just the most insane shit! Like some of these young lads that have had this, had to go through this, they’ve recorded the conversation. So I know what these piggies are saying to 16 year olds and how insane they are.

 

And I’ve listened to the most insane conversations where these piggies are saying like just the craziest shit to try to like brainwash these kids. They’re doing exactly what they’re accusing us of doing! They’re literally brainwashing these kids into believing the most insane shit, and then to make it even worse, your parents then sign off and you’ve got to do a de-radicalization course, which means you have a government friend now that comes and buys you KFC once a week and talks to you about your feelings for the next like year and a half. And you just don’t want to go through that! If you don’t have sick cunt parents, just fucking do your push ups, get a trade, finish high school, talk to your mates about this stuff. You know what I mean? And be careful how you talk to your mates about the stuff. Because a lot of guys that have reached out to the org, that aren’t in the org but have reached out and said:

 

“Hey, I’ve been forced to this DeRad thing, do I have to do it?”

 

And we say:

 

“Oh, what happened? Like, we’ve never heard of you. How are you on a DeRad thing?”

 

And they’ve said:

 

“Oh, I was talking about the Holocaust in class. And some kid in my class told the teacher and the teacher called the government and now I’ve got a government friend.”

 

And it’s like:

 

“Fuck dude, like, you got to be careful!”

 

But [chuckling] like, the Zoomers aren’t careful. They say crazy shit at school and they don’t realize that the teachers are trained to inform on them, if they say anything remotely like nationalistic. So you got to be very careful if you’re a young guy.

 

But if your parents. Look, if your dad is willing to meet with myself or whoever the state leader is or whoever the region rep is, if your dad’s willing to meet with us, then yes, you can join at whatever age.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay.

 

Thomas Sewell: But it’s basically like parental permission because, …

 

Henrik Palgren: Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: We just can’t be fucked dealing with the government.

 

Henrik Palgren: Like, sure.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s a joke!

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep. All right.

 

[2:10:32]

 

Thomas Sewell: You can go to Drag Queen Story Hour, of course. Yeah, that’s fine. You can’t join the Nazi boxing club. We will strap a bomb to your chest, apparently, according to police, because that’s happened.

 

Henrik Palgren: I think that answered your second follow up, that Protector podcast too, in terms of what you can do to get involved more in that space.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, talk to your dad. Tell your dad why you want to join and go from there.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And if your dad’s cool with it. What a lot of the dads say to us, because we do have a lot of people under the age of 18 involved and what a lot of the dads say to us is:

 

“I just don’t want them doing activism.”

 

And we say:

 

“That’s cool! Activism isn’t compulsory. It’s not compulsory. He can come and train, but, yeah, he’s not allowed to do activism.”

 

Henrik Palgren: Very good. Canadian Girl Rumble says:

 

“Much love and support from Canada. Hail Sewell and the NSN!”

 

Thank you, Canadian Girl Rumble. Aussie autist 88, says:

 

“Preferred meal, butter chicken or tikka masala?”

 

Thomas Sewell: Butter chicken. [chuckling]

 

Henrik Palgren: Butter chicken. There you go.

 

Thomas Sewell: They’re all going home. [chuckling] But we got the recipe!

 

Henrik Palgren: We got the recipe.

 

Thomas Sewell: Butter chicken is actually an ancient Aryan dish.

 

Henrik Palgren: Probably. Of course it is. Indo Aryan Oziotis again says:

 

“Our faggot ministers have zero vision. Zero vril. They are all so sterile and impotent. The vision of White Australia will go far!”

 

There you go. Thor’s Rune. Yeah, go ahead.

 

Thomas Sewell: Preach racist, preach!

 

Henrik Palgren: There you go.

 

Henrik Palgren: Thor’s Rune:

 

“Great discussion, great points laid out by Thomas. Standing strong for his nation and our people. Activism is no easy task in a politically hostile environment. Hail from SoCal!”

 

Southern California. Holy smokes. Get out of there if you can. Anyway, my condolences, but thank you, Thorstroom. Appreciate that. But the Bearded Indian says:

 

“Why do you think the Muslim retreated to the bridge instead of charging towards the crowds of targets?”

 

Well, he was on a vantage point. It was up high, obviously, so that was his best view, I would assume. What do you think?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, same reason.

 

Henrik Palgren: All right.

 

Thomas Sewell: They could cover each other from there.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, because his dad. Didn’t his dad have a shotgun? He was like the one who’s going to take care of there’s someone that’s approaching the son. The main shooter. That’s what he looked like to me anyway, But I’m not sure.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, and also the dad was fat and slow.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: So it’s just common sense. But anyway, what a silly question. Bearded Indian usually has good questions.

 

Henrik Palgren: Aussie autistic says:

 

“Hail Odin. Hail victory! Enjoy the solstice. Have a good Yuletide.”

 

Well, thank you. Exactly! That’s coming up here soon. The 21st.

 

Thomas Sewell: You’ve got midsummer this year.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, that’s right. You get Midsummer.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah.

 

Henrik Palgren: So do you celebrate it upside down, too? Is that how you do it?

 

Thomas Sewell: We do, yeah. We hang out from the, …

 

Henrik Palgren: The Hanged Man.

 

Thomas Sewell: We hang from the trees.

 

Henrik Palgren: Odin.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, The Upside Down.

 

Henrik Palgren: Nine nights. Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: I sacrificed myself to myself.

 

Henrik Palgren: One eye patch when Randall Flag says:

 

“Thomas, Australia’s elite are primarily composed of old mining clans. From what I hear, they are the biggest turncoats who sold off your mines to the CCP. How do you propose on retaking your resources?”

 

Interesting question.

 

Thomas Sewell: At bayonet point!

 

Henrik Palgren: What?

 

Thomas Sewell: At bayonet point.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, there we go. Okay, well that explains it.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. So many people ask me:

 

“How are you going to do this? How are you going to do that?”

 

We’re just going to do it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Interesting small things to hone in on. But I mean, it’s not small, I guess.

 

Thomas Sewell: But yeah, we’re just going to do it.

 

Henrik Palgren: If there’s a will, I guess. Okay, we got one.

 

Thomas Sewell: The how we’re gonna do it? Well, when we’re close to it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, well, who knows?

 

Thomas Sewell: If you need to know, if you’re part of it, we’ll tell you, will be part of it.

 

Henrik Palgren: You will find out. How about that?

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s so many spectators. Imagine going down to the football match and you’re a spectator and you’re in the crowd. There’s like 10,000 people in the crowd and you’re just shouting at the coach:

 

“How are you gonna get that touchdown? How are you gonna do it?”

 

Henrik Palgren: It’s impossible!

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s like:

 

“Shut up!”

 

You want to join the team? I’ll teach you. Join the team and I’ll teach you how we’re going to do it.

 

Henrik Palgren: That’s right. That’s a good answer.

 

Thomas Sewell: Sitting on the sideline:

 

“How are you going to do this?”

 

All right, we get why democracy is really gay.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, yeah, it’s, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Everyone wants a voice but no one wants to do the work. Everyone wants a voice, but no one wants to do it. The way it says, “rights without duties”, that’s the primary issue. So democracy that we’re going to build is “rights and duties”. You’ll get lots of rights, but you got to do the duties! You got to put your time in on the gun. They’re not inalienable:

 

“I’m born so therefore, hahaha, I get everything!”

 

It’s like:

 

“Yeah, that’s how Rome collapsed.”

 

Because that just creates a fat, weak, retarded society. Look what happened to the Romans. They were born with the privilege of being a Roman citizen. They didn’t have to work for it anymore. They have to fight for it! They didn’t have to do any duty. They forgot their own religion, everything. It just deteriorated them, because they forgot how to just put in the work for the race.

 

[2:15:35]

 

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, it’s so hard, right? You get success breeds complacency and comfort. And then out of that it’s so hard to motivate the younger people and the kids specifically, obviously, that grow up in that. Right. They have the abundance, the affluence. It’s extremely hard. Right?

 

Thomas Sewell: Someone asked me:

 

“How are we going to take back the Commonwealth Bank?”

 

Henrik Palgren: Is [chuckling] that the priority?

 

Thomas Sewell: No, but we’re going to do it. We are going to do it. That’s part of policy too. It’s like we’re just going to take ownership of it:

 

“What do you mean, but how are you going to do it?”

 

We’re just going to do it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Trust the plan. All right, how about that?

 

Thomas Sewell: What do you want? You want me to write like a 300 page essay on, like, how we’re going to manage all the branches?

 

Henrik Palgren: Needed in writing Tom. Right now!

 

Thomas Sewell: How did they sell it? Did the guy that sold it off, did he write a 300 page? He probably did. Knowing democracy.

 

Henrik Palgren: Legalese wise. Yes.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, they just sold it to their mates. They just got rid of it. They just sold it to their mates. They just had friends. And now it’s 1.3 trillion in the private sector and it was a state asset. They just gave it to their mates.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep. Of course!

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re just going to take it back!

 

Henrik Palgren: When do they do that by the way?

 

Thomas Sewell: 1996.

 

Henrik Palgren: 96, okay, interesting.

 

Thomas Sewell: They just gave it to their mates. That’s what they did. They gave it to their mates. They gave it to their jewish mates.

 

Henrik Palgren: Of course. Okay, we got one more here. Alufaltruda, if I say that correctly:

 

“What would you say to men who want to participate in the inner activism part of White Australia but aren’t yet physically fit? Would you allow fat guys or twigs to join the park training?”

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, we have fat guys and skinny guys at training. Yeah, we do. Like the fitness testing is not:

 

“Hey, you can’t hang out with us, associate with us or train with us if you don’t pass this testing.”

 

That’s not how the testing works. The testing works is we’ve got a hierarchy where you don’t become an official member. There’s like a process where you go through like an initiation phase, like the bikies would call it, like a prospecting phase, like at work it might be called a trainee phase. You go through your apprenticeship, you go through like a trainee phase where you do six months and then you get promoted and you do another six months and you get promoted. But at those promotions you have to meet certain fitness standards.

 

So there’s some guys that have been in the org three years and they haven’t been promoted because they have never worked on their fitness. They just come once a month, they hang out, they stand at the barbecue, they have a cigarette and you know what I mean, it’s like they’re a minority. They’re in the minority. There’s only a couple guys that do that it’s not a good culture if there was a whole bunch doing it. But when it’s just a couple guys coming down, they can keep an eye on things. They can do a bit of security, they can check license plates, they can help with the vetting. You know, they can be part of other operations that not everyone has to train.

 

But again, it is what it is. Different horses. We got Sausage Turners we got security guards, we got all sorts of people.

 

Henrik Palgren: All right, the Bearded Indian has a second go here. I guess he must do a better question.

 

Thomas Sewell: Let’s go round two.

 

Henrik Palgren: NSN must publicize the shit out of this. Every politician who promoted diversity is responsible for the mass murder. Job for the clippers to tether those politicians face together.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, absolutely! Yeah. Now the online warfare is really important. And I mean the politicians, their reaction, I mean Burke, Marles and Albo, they are shaking! They are shaking in their boots. You can hear it in their voice. They got gay lisps. I mean, it is embarrassing!

 

I mean, there’s one video. You got to play it quickly. You got to play it quickly. I’ll find it, I’ll send it. I’ll DM it to you.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay.

 

Thomas Sewell: You’ve got to play this video. Oh, it is embarrassing!

 

Henrik Palgren: I’ll take the other one here.

 

Thomas Sewell: This is Australia’s Defense Minister.

 

Henrik Palgren: Find that there.

 

Thomas Sewell: I found it. I found it.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay, yeah, send it to me. I’ll pull it up here.

 

Thomas Sewell: Check your DMs. You got to play this video.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, it’s through. Okay, let me save that down real quick there then. We’ll get that one.

 

Of course I got some, the Rumble channel up in the meantime here as well. Well, I download that for White Australia. You guys are obviously on the main website. There is WhiteAustralia.org or simply WhiteAus. I think you can go to as well, dot org to get to the website.

 

[2:19:54]

 

Thomas Sewell: They both redirect. There’s a whole bunch of things that redirect to White Australia.org.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay, here we go. Let’s see if that downloaded here. I’m going to import that down properly. Doesn’t seem like it hopefully works. No file format. Oh, it’s still downloading. It’s slow as hell! Okay. Also in the meantime that. Well, I’m just waiting for that. Just be a couple of seconds. There’s a Telegram page obviously for White Australia as well. Then you have your personal one. Tom Sewell uncensored on Telegram. Any other social media links website where people can, …

 

Thomas Sewell: I got a Gab. Thomas underscore Sewell. But I just don’t use it. I need to, but I just keep forgetting. But Gab feels pretty dead lately. I don’t know. We’re banned from Twitter.

 

Next year I’m gonna try to get on Twitter and Instagram and just see how long I last. But we’re going to launch the policy parties first. I’ve got a list of priorities and then I’m going to just do like I’m going to spam videos and social media stuff and if I get a week, I’ll be really happy.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay, here’s the clip. It’s down on Defense Minister Richard Marles. Here’s his comments. Check it out.

 

Sky News: Do you feel like there needs to be and should there be a greater emphasis on hate speech from Muslim clerics in the Western part of Sydney?

Richard Marles: I think. Look, I think as I said earlier, what we’ve done is criminalize more forms of hate speech, and we’ve criminalized the Nazi salute. Obviously that’s in its own context, but we need to be looking at all of this. And it is really important that we have., …

Sky News: So should there be a greater emphasis on this hate speech from Muslim clerics, then?

Richard Marles: I don’t want to. We will go through all of this. I emphasize that we have done more in terms of criminalising hate speech than we have seen from any other government. But we need to look at all of this and we need to make sure that we’ve got the right laws in place and that we are doing everything we can to keep safe that the vibrant multicultural society, …

 

Henrik Palgren: There it is! [chuckling] There it is! Oh, my gosh! All right.

 

Thomas Sewell: Please, please, Yahweh, send me your gayest, most retarded enemies. [chuckling]

 

Henrik Palgren: That is funny!

 

Thomas Sewell: That’s Defense Minister of Australia, a gay retard!

 

Henrik Palgren: He seems genuinely rattled!

 

Thomas Sewell: Tony Burke has got like this high pitched, I’ve never heard his voice go high pitch before. Tony Burke is like. He’s got like the fear complex at the moment when the media are asking questions. And he got booed. He came down to the memorial and the jews all booed him. And this is the guy that deported a neo-Nazi for the jews! And the jews are booing him.

 

Henrik Palgren: Doesn’t matter. Yep, exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: You deports Nazis, but you didn’t deport the Muslims.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, they do that right, though. And it sounds like:

 

“Yeah, you’ve been very good. You did this great. We’re very happy!”

 

No, at that point, you have the opportunity to push really hard to get just much more of what you want. And how do you want the politicians to act for you on behalf of you? They know how to do that. Okay, we got two more here, Tom, before we let you go here. Line Crosses said:

 

“The police must have had so many angles on those shooters. Shooters were exposed, evident by the many camera angles on them. Sloppy.”

 

I mean, I heard one rabbi there, they interviewed him was like:

 

“It must have been 20 minutes.”

 

Or something. And it’s like. I don’t think it was 20 minutes. It probably felt like 20 minutes for the people that were there. But five maybe, I don’t know, maybe 10, I don’t know.

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, it was almost 10. It was almost 10 minutes. Yeah.

 

Henrik Palgren: Which is a long time.

 

Thomas Sewell: Which is way too long. Like Bondi, the traffic’s bad, but there’s always cops at Bondi Beach. I’ve never not seen cops at Bondi Beach. I’ve always seen police at Bondi beach, usually in teams of two or teams of four.

 

So the fact that it took 10 minutes to get to the shooting, to resolve the shooting, and took probably I don’t know, five minutes to get there. There’s video footage of cops driving past the bridge. So they had an angle to shoot out the window up that bridge. There’s cops driving past and they didn’t stop. They just kept going. So, yeah, despicable!

 

But fat Chungus. Not the Chungus that arrested Joel, but another Chungus was the one that got the killer shot on the dad. Really small Chungus.

 

Henrik Palgren: Okay.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. There’s footage of the Chungus. There was a fat Chungus cop that got the shot off. So he wasn’t a beat cop. He was in a suit. So that just shows you know, there’s cops in dress shirts walking around, right?

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

[2:24:50]

 

Thomas Sewell: How did he get there? How did he get there before the cops that were in uniform. He’s not wearing a bulletproof vest either.

 

So the cop that got the shot off was just a fat Chungus from the office that might have been just getting lunch. I don’t know the story yet. But another interesting thing that I forgot to mention was the media, because a whole bunch of lifeguards tried to assist in the process as well. And there was lifeguards that were there on the scene before the cops got there, as well as the Aussies that just like stomped the two guys on the ground on the bridge. But there was a guy trying to read out the names of the lifeguards that had helped save people’s lives. And helped try to deal with it. And the media wouldn’t let this guy read out the names of the lifeguards. Because the media here in Australia, all they’re saying on the news is just:

 

“Look at this brown guy that saved the day! Look at this jewish guy that saved the day. Look at all these heroes of multiculturalism!”

 

And it’s like, they won’t read out the names. And they’re like:

 

“His name was Al Hamid Muhammad!”

 

And then they just say it like 20 times.

 

So, yeah, you turn on the news and it’s like:

 

“And the hero was Al Hamid Muhammad!”

 

And it’s just, on repeat, on repeat, on repeat!

 

And it’s like, they wouldn’t let a guy read out the names of the lifeguards that tried to help because it’s like Ben Stewart, Thomas Stevens. You know what I mean?

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah, exactly! Right.

 

Thomas Sewell: All Aussie names.

 

Henrik Palgren: I mean, the solution, therefore, is:

 

“Let’s bring in a million more Muslims to protect us from the Muslims!”

 

Right? [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: We need migrants to stop us from migrants!

 

Henrik Palgren: Exactly! See, the good ones cancel out the bad ones, I guess, but they kill White Australians in the process, obviously. Yeah. People are asking chat here:

 

“What’s a chungus? Chubby, thick, large?”

 

Is that the definition?

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. Chungus is like a big fat chungus. You know, like a Big Chungus. It was like, I’ll just Google it. Big chungus. They don’t know the Big Chungus.

 

Henrik Palgren: That’s like the, … Bugs Bunny! Exactly! Yeah, that’s the bunny. Exactly!

 

Thomas Sewell: If you don’t know the Big Chungus.

 

Henrik Palgren: Home of the Brave says:

 

“The most white pilling is listening to Tom Sewell. Absolutely no one wants to step up in America, so I guess I’m gonna have to do it!”

 

Well, that’s the spirit. That is not true, by the way. But that’s the spirit obviously. If you don’t think anyone does, then, yeah, you do it:

 

“Thanks for giving me hope and vectorizing the Vril.”

 

Hail home of the brave.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, I get a lot of DMs from Americans and they all want to be Australia’s Thomas Sewell. Sorry, America’s Thomas Sewell. I get a lot of DMs. I get a lot of people unsolicited in the DMs on Telegram and they’re like:

 

“Check out my page, Tom. I’m the next Thomas Sewell!”

 

And then I check out the page and it’s got two subscribers. And I’m like:

 

“Dude, I’m not going to be your third subscriber. I’m sorry, you’re going to have to put your time on the gun. You have to build up a bit of a following yourself.”

 

They’re like:

 

“Tom, can you share my page? I’m America’s Thomas Sewell!”

 

No, you’re not. You’re unfortunately not. I’m sorry.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, we got another Thomas. Does a good job. Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: There’s Hammer. There’s all sorts of guys. There’s lots of guys in America. There’s a lot of guys that are not necessarily like doxed, like not name fagging, as they say on the chins. There’s a lot of guys that just, they just put in the work. They just build the active club or they build their organization. You know, they just put their folk first and they do it without the glory. And yeah, also a little bit off topic. I was in jail, so no one told me. No one told me Chris Cantwell’s a faggot! What the fuck happened? What the fuck is going on?

 

Henrik Palgren: I don’t wanna, …

 

Thomas Sewell: He sent me a message like a week ago. He’s like:

 

“Hey, man, can you share this post for me?”

 

And I’m like, I didn’t say:

 

“Yeah, all right.”

 

But I was like, in my head:

 

“Yeah, all right.”

 

But I always read everything first before I share. Always. And I’m like scrolling through and it was like something about gay sex. And I was like:

 

“Hang on a minute. What the fuck!”

 

And then I read it again and I replied to him:

 

“Chris, what the fuck are you talking about?”

 

And then I sent it to the boys and they’re like:

 

“Yeah, bro, did you not know?”

 

I was like:

 

“No one told me. I was in prison. No one told me!”

 

And then I went through his page and he was like:

 

“When I was 14, I had sex with a man. He wasn’t attractive.”

 

It’s like:

 

“What the fuck Chris, you fucking weird cunt!”

 

Henrik Palgren: Imagine that!

 

Thomas Sewell: Holy shit! He fell off.

 

Henrik Palgren: Imagine that!

 

Thomas Sewell: He was a bit of an oddball, but fuck, he fell off.

 

Henrik Palgren: Some things kind of makes sense.

 

Thomas Sewell: Eric Striker likes biting my ankles. I hope he’s biting Chris Cantwell’s ankles. Hopefully he doesn’t get AIDS.

 

Henrik Palgren: Well, yeah, that’s, …

 

Thomas Sewell: Why are people having a go at me when there’s cunts like that! I should be, …

 

Henrik Palgren: I don’t think anyone’s giving him a pass, to be honest.

 

But yeah, I get your point.

 

[2:30:01]

 

Thomas Sewell: No one’s giving him a pass, but how did that fucking slip through to the keeper? Someone must have known!

 

Henrik Palgren: Probably.

 

Thomas Sewell: You know, that’s one of our vetting questions. You know, that’s one of our vetting questions is that:

 

“If someone tells you in secret something like that, would you share it with other people? Or would you keep it a secret?”

 

That’s one of our vetting questions.

 

Henrik Palgren: When did you start being gay? That’s the vetting question. [chuckling]

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, exactly! [chuckling] I shouldn’t be giving away our vetting questions. Antifa’s probably got through stage one. They just probably don’t get stage two or stage three. But like, that’s in stage one. Like, are you a fag sympathizer? We don’t want you. That’s how we got this problem in the first place.

 

Henrik Palgren: I’m sure they answer honestly on that.

 

Thomas Sewell: Because in politics, there’s not many forces worse than gays. Like, there’s jews. Jews are worse! But like gays are fucked! They’re insidious. They’re absolutely insidious. They have to be just completely rooted out of every single organization. That’s how politics have been taken over. Like people that can be blackmailed. You know what I mean?

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: And yeah, gays are all ashamed of themselves. That’s why they have to take drugs to do it. They’re freaks! They’re disgusting freaks! There’s no normal gays. There’s no such thing as a normal gay. They’re all freaks! Don’t associate with them. Anyone that associates with gays, I don’t associate with them.

 

Henrik Palgren: I agree.

 

Thomas Sewell: Even straight people. I just can’t tolerate anyone that’s like:

 

“Oh, I’ve got a gay friend.”

 

Like:

 

“Nuke! See you later. Don’t talk to me again. Do not contact. Lose this number.”

 

Henrik Palgren: We got Line Cross:

 

“Small fat chungus has the most testosterone in the force.”

 

Yeah, that’s interesting. Isn’t that interesting? Megawatts 80:

 

“Hi, Tom!”

 

Thomas Sewell: Hi.

 

Henrik Palgren: There you go. I was waiting for a hi back. Line Cross again:

 

“I can’t help but imagine the media crap storm if a member or two of the NSN was there and foiled that attack.”

 

Thomas Sewell: Oh, they probably wouldn’t have done much except get shotgun to the face!

 

Henrik Palgren: Taking them out too.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. I mean, to be fair, that one guy did disarm the fat chungus that ran down. It didn’t even make sense. Anyway, I won’t go into.

 

Henrik Palgren: Rob Jasimer here says:

 

“We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children!”

 

Correct. Thank you, Rob.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. All right.

 

Henrik Palgren: I think we’re caught up there. Thank you, Tom, so much for joining us today. I appreciate it. Always pleasure talking to you. Keep up the good work, the excellent work, the fantastic work you’re doing down there. We’re all watching and very interested in the development, not only, of course, the political kind of faction of this, the arm, the wing of what you’re doing, obviously, but yeah, it’s always a pleasure having you on, man! And anything else, closing thoughts you want to run through here before we wrap up for today?

 

Thomas Sewell: We’re gonna win! Yeah, I don’t have a closing spiel. I think I’ve said a lot today and yeah, just gas all the black pillers! Just don’t associate with black pillers. The worst humans in this movement are the black pillers. Just don’t associate with them. They’re like a social disease in the movement. And we have made so much progress over the years because we just gas the black pillers! We just get rid of them. We just don’t associate with them.

 

Now, you can be a critic, and you can be a fair critic and you can be realistic.

 

Henrik Palgren: You want that part of it for sure. Shoot holes in everything. Right? But, …

 

Thomas Sewell: But you don’t want people that by their very nature they’re unhappy, they’re unlucky, they’re pessimistic. Don’t associate with these kinds of people because they will destroy your clique. They will destroy your movement, they will destroy your business, they will destroy your organization, they will destroy your family. Don’t associate with fundamentally unhappy, weak willed people! Just don’t associate with them. They’re just the chaff. You know what I mean? They’re just the chaff and they’re not going to make it. They’re just not going to make it.

 

And all the progress we have made as an organization has been this “triumph of the will”. You, when you get involved and you do five years or even less, like maybe within two or three years you might start to feel, you might feel the energy. Like you can feel the winds of change or the vibrations or whatever is. You can feel it and you can feel that progress coming from just these high vril, high energy like people, men and women, it’s male and female energy, in different ways. It’s obviously predominantly male energy in the movement. But that energy, that high virile energy, like there’s so many face doxed people, there’s so many people that aren’t face doxed, but they work really hard behind the scenes and they just love it! You’ve just got to love it! You’ve got to learn to love the struggle. You’ve got to learn to love this battle we’re in. And when you’re faced with adversity, you should always just see it as a challenge. You should always just see it as:

 

“Oh, that’s what they’re throwing at us now. Oh, that’s where my life’s at now!”

 

Just take a step back, breathe, calm down, get your bearings and get stuck back in. Get back to work! And yeah, that’s the success of my organization. I don’t tolerate it. We just get rid of you.

 

And that’s why we’re growing. There was a point where we got stuck at 20, 30 guys. And building a little active club with five guys is pretty easy. It’s really easy. Almost everyone can do it. Almost anyone that’s not a retard can do it. You can build four or five guys in an active club. When you get to 20 to 30 guys, it becomes very difficult. You really need to have some leadership qualities.

 

[2:36:06]

 

But also you start to realize that not all 20 to 30 men are equal. And that you need to have a really good core. You need to have people that really have good energy and good commitment level and they’re there for the right reasons. They’re not just loser freaks that hate society and are looking for any kind of vagrant group to attach themselves to. You want to just stay clear of the loser freaks! You just don’t want losers! That doesn’t mean everyone has to be as corporate or like high paid or like big earner, tradesman, driving a nice car.

 

It’s not about status and it’s not about money. It’s about work ethic, it’s about integrity. Yeah, that’s way more important, that’s way more important than money. Don’t think that it’s about money. It’s got nothing to do with money. You’ll find that there’s lots of people with money that have really bad work ethic. They just know the right people, they went to the right school, their dad’s friends are wealthy, blah blah, blah. And that’s why they drive a $200,000 car.

 

Whereas there’s men driving around five thousand dollar cars and they got a great work ethic. They’re hustlers and not in a gay cringe, corporate capitalist mindset, in terms of a political mindset. They get home, they’re video editing, they’re doing shit, they’re on Twitter, they’re Twitter maxing, they’re in the gym, they’re fighting.

 

Okay, so what? They drive a $5,000 a car, who cares? You know what I mean? Like they got a good work ethic.

 

So yeah, you want to surround yourself with people that are willing to work for nationalism. They’re willing to put in the work. And pessimists and black pillers, they just want to sit there and just sink the boat, you know, Imagine you’re on a journey, you’re on a mission. You want cunts on the fucking oars! Get on the fucking oars! Let’s go!

 

Henrik Palgren: Correct. Yep.

 

Thomas Sewell: And if you’ve got a skill, if you can navigate, if you can navigate, you got to first do your time on the fucking oars. We don’t need all this dead weight on the boat saying:

 

“Oh, we should go this way or we should go that way!”

 

Shut up! Get on the oar. All right.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah. Learn to work as a team first. Right? Kind of thing.

 

Thomas Sewell: And get in the rhythm.

 

Henrik Palgren: Get your individuality, your emotions to the side. Just get rid of all of that and create a unit that can cooperate and then from there you can do that.

 

And as you said, I mean, yeah, you should surround yourself with people that are smarter than you, that are better than you, they know more than you. And that creates an environment where you are all feeding off each other. You grow, you become better.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah. And you should lift people up that aren’t.

 

Henrik Palgren: Oh, 100%.

 

Thomas Sewell: But don’t waste time on people that are fundamentally broken. And the younger you are, the more time you waste on broken people. When I was young, I wasted years on broken people trying to help them.

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: And yeah, as Adolf Hitler says:

 

“God helps no one that doesn’t help themselves. And German people, help yourselves!”

 

And I believe that about us as Aryans, as White people. Like we need to help ourselves. And yeah you don’t want to like cut off people too quickly. You want to give people time. Some people take six months, some people 12 months.

 

But yeah, you’re not always going to find yourself surrounded by people that are making more money than you or that are smarter than you or whatever. Sometimes you’re going to find yourself surrounded by people that are are less fit than you and, or, whatever the metric is that you’re measuring. And yeah, what mateship is about is about lifting up the guys around you know, and a good amount of positive bullying, a good amount of positive work. Inclusive bullying.

 

Henrik Palgren: Shaming and bullying works 100%.

 

Thomas Sewell: Lift up the guys around you. That’s one way that an organization grows is that guys join and it’s not that you’re joining a self improvement society. Go join the Freemasons if that’s what you’re looking for! You know what I mean? Like our organization, the purpose of it isn’t a self improvement society, but I do believe that’s a side effect on it.

 

Henrik Palgren: That’s a positive side effect of it.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, exactly! Yeah. It’s a side effect of brotherhood.

 

Henrik Palgren: Correct.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s a side effect of an effective brotherhood. All effective brotherhoods are do that. And what we have at the moment is like veterans organizations and men’s clubs and stuff like that. They’re all just like pity parties. I don’t go to them because I know that they’re gay as fuck, but I know people that go to these like guys that I was in the army with and you know, tradesmen, they go to these like groups that aren’t our group. They go to these like socially approved groups after work and it’s just like they’re just getting lectured by some faggot about toxic masculinity. And it’s just like:

 

“How do you fucking put up with this? Like you don’t need friends that bad, dude. Like, just go to the gym!”

 

[2:40:44]

 

Henrik Palgren: Just making friends there, nothing else.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, like a lot of the veterans organizations, for example, a bit off topic, but a lot of them are just that what you feed grows pity parties. They’re just like:

 

“Oh, I have nightmares.”

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

Thomas Sewell: It’s just like, fuck, man!

 

Henrik Palgren: Yeah.

 

At some point you have to like a new vision, Focus on something new, fresh. And I know it sucks! I’m not trying to diminish it. But I’m saying also at some point you got to kind of keep busy, right? You got to get active and busy.

 

Thomas Sewell: If you’ve got depression, for example, and you go to the depression week and you’re like:

 

“I’m so depressed I can’t get out of bed in the morning!”

 

Is that ever going to fix the problem?

 

Henrik Palgren: No, no, it’s not.

 

Thomas Sewell: You just need a fucking injection of Vril!

 

Henrik Palgren: Yep, Correct.

 

Thomas Sewell: Just get out of fucking bed. Find a purpose.

 

But yeah, anyway, I’ve said enough.

 

Henrik Palgren: No, no, it’s all good. All good. Dr. Jenstein:

 

“Thanks guys. Great stream!”

 

Yeah, I really appreciate it. Great conversation, Tom, as always, I appreciate you. And again, thanks. Salute to all of you and the guys over there. Hope Joel gets out soon.

 

And as always, of course, …

 

Thomas Sewell: 23rd, hopefully.

 

Henrik Palgren: 23rd. Oh, really? Okay. So day before Yule. Okay, nice.

 

Thomas Sewell: Yeah, a week.

 

Henrik Palgren: All right, well, say hi to him from us here at Red Ice. We’re thinking of him.

 

All right, Tom, have a great Yule. Christmas done. Coming up here shortly, soon.

 

Thomas Sewell: Thank you for having me.

 

Henrik Palgren: That’s right.

 

And obviously I suppose you say Australia for the White man! We’ll see you later, Tom.

 

Thomas Sewell: The rest must go!

 

Henrik Palgren: The rest must go. [chuckling] There you go.

 

All right, cheers. Take care. Thanks.

 

All right, guys, there we go. Thank you so much to Tom again for joining us. We appreciate you.

 

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BeornBeorning
5 hours ago
Great guest!

RestitutorOrbis1028
VerifiedLocals Supporter
2 days ago
Australia was batshit crazy & cruel during Cοvid; I will never forget it. Ontario & British Columbia (Canada) come in close behind.

Soozysuz
Supporter
3 days ago
Also the government are so dumb, they don’t even know they have created this right wing movement. There’s no stopping it when they have forced us into this situation. If they weren’t over controlling fuckheads, we could all be living in peace and enjoying life.

Soozysuz
Supporter
3 days ago
The government are terrified of you guys. After your speech at MFA in August, I had to find out what you were all about, brocade it certainly wasn’t what they were trying to tell us. If been a keen listener ever since. As a woman in my mid 50’s it makes me so happy to see strong young men prepared to do what it takes to take this country back. I grew up in the best times and never imagined we’d be where we are now. Australia is barely recognisable. I really hope we can turn this ship around Hail 🫡

6millionbagels
3 days ago
Brilliant interview 🙏

Jaymeo1
4 days ago
Tom is the future

Bee1970Something
4 days ago
Israel and their puppets keep causing bullshit and the current so-called leaders all fleece us for this greed

PansophicGothi
4 days ago
Greg Johnson is a normal gay man, and Joel Davis did a live stream with him in 2025. I get the tendency to act like zero tolerance, but that doesn’t really mesh with reality, it’s usually more complicated and nuanced. (Chris Cantwell went off the deep end though.)
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BeornBeorning
5 days ago
“…doing everything we can to keep safe the vibrant multicultural society…” LMAO
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Lueger
6 days ago
41:00 Striker and those around him have no f’g idea about the obnoxiousness of the mohammedans in Europe and everywhere else they exist outside of the US. The Jew-S has traditionally filtered out the above-average to below-average sorts and allowed in only the absolute top-level, unislamic intellectuals. I went to Europe as a convinced opponent of semitism, and learned in Europe that opposition to semitism must include opposition to all semites. Jew and arab alike have an ideology of perpetual innocence, mixed with an inclination to communism and lasciviousness. They are both disgusting and should properly be confined to their deserts, pushed off of the coasts of the eastern Mediterranean.

Vasili1
6 days ago
you may be interested in watching– Jews in Australia 2 – Ernie Rolando Dec 2025 (+ Critical Race Theory) https://www.bitchute.com/video/KbCDmGx8xsOK

HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
Ah you’re an anti-semite (You said that around 2 hours in). Well I guess that means I should go and protect the real Whites then, the negative blood types (myself inclusive). Jews aren’t the real semites, but if you have all connection with Christ by blood well then we negative blood types deserve better than being annihilated by the jews, directly targeted and abused not only by people on Earth, but wondering why almost all our lives we’re being targeted by demons and fallen angels so much and jews trying to replace us and then also annihilated potentially by neo nazi’s and replaced there too? I’ve cried deeply enough, shed enough blood and sweat. We’ve gone through enough us negative blood types, don’t deserve attacks instead of being cherished and protected and also considering how much we’ve also done, which means none of you would be here otherwise to even be able to fight. Most of us didn’t even know that we were blood of Christ and his ancestors until only a few years ago, even though the jews have known and tried to cover it up all along. I’ve connected with negative blood types the last few years and they’ve all pretty much said the same thing, we’re being hunted more so than anyone else in the world and almost all I spoke to were Christian or I didn’t know and I’ve spoken to quite a few groups. I’m against multiculturalism of all non-Whites with Europeans, Scandinavians (Greenland inclusive) and Whites I don’t know how it’s going to go with you lot not accepting we’re actually the real Whites if that’s how you’re going about it. I’d like an apology at least from the UK people from hating on me throughout school when I was a little girl because they were fucking racist against Polish people and framing Polish people for what the nazi’s or rather the jews actually did. Sick. I think there’s clear reason, negative blood types have to protect our own community worldwide. I might as well go pass on the msg because I don’t need anyone not being loyal to us.

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boicotinho2
1 week ago
lmao, “the jews arent the real jews”. what a nonsense
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
“What a nonsense?” lol Have a look at yourself in the mirror and then you’ll see what real nonsense looks like. If you want to be roasted, mate, I have all day and shit ton load of experience, (no pun intended and frankly it ain’t shit but since you’re so literal worse than an actual autistic then lets go with heap ton load instead). I’ve grown and healed through these time loops like you can’t imagine despite the BS torture I’ve had to endure. You’ll tire out quicker than it takes a cork to blow from a shaken up bottle of cheap sparkling (not even champagne). Jews are not the real line of Christ and his ancestors. Happy? I can’t fucking edit these posts and they allow only 2,000 characters as you well know so it doesn’t let me say everything to a dumbass like you. People with half a brain or holes in it know what I’m saying, you can’t, you’re that retarded? I don’t have time nor energy for shitty connection, do better. Be kind, instead, takes healing. You eating your wild blueberries? (Clearly not).

whitehonkymonkey
3 days ago
he’s obviously unhinged, pity the poor minded
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
Sorry for the many posts but each post only allows 2,000 characters. So it’s not just the demons that need to be killed, it’s also the fallen angels. If we don’t kill the core of the problem, those fallen will just manipulate people on Earth again, get them accepting & loving their demons & doing sick shit like they did at the Colosseum. According to Anthony William attacking family members because they were forced to while the whole stadium was screaming. Plus people doing things like what they are today, today’s style canaanite. Joshua, Saul & David (those negative blood types) killed all these jews that went rancid because God directed them to. This is a battle that’s been going on for thousands of years but for some reason what is God waiting for with the fallen? How is it that our God tells Joshua NKJV 7:10-12 to kill the filth amongst him & won’t be with Joshua unless he does, yet Jesus our God doesn’t kill all the filth amongst his realm & the spiritual. We have to investigate further what’s going on here. Either way, the audiobook is: “Angels, Demons and Spiritual Tools,” you can get it on Spotify as well. Takes 7 hours to listen, about 10min a day to do the excersizes even if you don’t believe in them. For me when I even just started listening to it, my life situation improved & I became more confident against the spiritual & celestial realms that house these filth demons. You can bet all the sick jews are turned demon in the afterlife because satan comes to collect if God’s angels don’t come to collect you. The afterlife, is another battle, unfortunately & I don’t know about you lot, but I’m already exhausted by the immense full blown attacks I’ve already received in a frickin’ time loop that I was forced to endure repeats of as well, still am. I know a lot, don’t know too much about how to get myself out of a time loop, any Jesus Christ following Christians know? Anyway, otherwise I’m going to have to wait until Christ comes & that could mean we lost.

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RestitutorOrbis1028
VerifiedLocals Supporter
2 days ago
On a social-media post, if you cannot write a concise comment within a few sentences, you need to fundamentally reconsider your language & communication skills. Honestly, trying to provide constructive criticism. Do your best to shoot for a few sentences, one paragraph. Cheers 🍻

HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
1:30:00 thereabouts, none of the flying cars & the proper architecture & all of us getting along won’t happen until the demons in the spiritual realm are killed & everyone needs to be taking THAT seriously. Unfortunately I have to quote Anthony William even though that audiobook was actually half me because he took my personal previous situation where I was screaming at my v2k attackers & crying hysterically from the heat & the spike protein stabs within my body & senses. I didn’t realise at that point that they had given it to all the cows as well (so everyone is vaccinated unfortunately, need to eat their wild blueberries & all the powders from Christian brand Vimergy, can also get it from the floweroflife.com website to clean that nano out). They just keep dumping nano at us daily, in the air, it’s part of the chemtrails, it’s in the water, dairy, you’re around vaccinated you literally can’t get away from it. You can minimise your exposure though & clean it out daily so you’re as close to God as possible, not as close to those cia agents & their ai as possible. At that part of the loop a few years ago Russia & America (jews) were threatening the world with drones that could kill you upon impact using facial recognition & were using them at Ukraine border. Poland had a machine to zap them upon impact, I realised checkmate wasn’t really checkmate, I screamed what he is saying now in the audiobook made one loop after it happened. He really should have co-authored me but he supports some jews, apparently the better ones & I refuse all jews. That situation you can truly know how evil these satanists are when they abuse their power & think no one is around to help you or that you can’t help yourself, which is all I had. Not only that but demons power the energy for these satanists, people have said that the reason Clintons are so powerful is because they used sex magic to attach demons to their soul this was a purposeful intent not always does sex magic do this.

HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
You neo nazi’s may also be interested to know, that Hitler actually had his own hypnotist and he was using him throughout all the crowd speeches he did. It clearly was greatly effective, how do you think mesmeric techniques from Anton who used to live in Germany in the 1800s ended up actually freeing Germany from them jews? Biggest mistake Hitler made was going after Poland though. That was dumb. Jesus Christ knows all about hypnosis and mesmerism. It was used over 5,000 years ago as a healing modality. The history of Hypnosis and where it’s going in each country is actually kind of fascinating. In other words, you don’t attack God’s children!

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whitehonkymonkey
3 days ago
loving your uneducated comments.

boicotinho2
1 week ago
Jewsus Christ is just jewish mythology!
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
At 21min, JimmyDee on YT (hope I spelt that right) he’s got about 10k YT following, one one of his videos he mentions this video & this person & showing a photo of him getting painted with red paint and the video from TV. He also mentioned, ‘so all of a sudden this guy has no more head split’ I can’t remember exactly the quote, but it was along those lines, I thought that was a really good point. Young guy, mixed race, hates muslims as well & love the fact he calls out the jews in everyone of his videos. VizzGitt on YT is also good at that too but less often, but they don’t seem to have a lot of subs, I don’t know if it’s brainwashed people that don’t follow them or it’s the jews that are punishing them with algorithms. At 1 point I thought Mel Gibson was bad when I started getting attacked heavily with the microwave weapons attacked while cleansing, because I wondered why they were using mesmerism to try and hypnotise me so much that I had to block the signals with scalar healing aka longitudinal hz frequency, which does block negative frequencies from the 5g & breaks hypnosis without being killed because CIA they do that kill switch within you. I’m pretty proud I actually was 1st to figure it out but it was also because of that lady that researched and developed scalar wave healing. I did add her I forgot her name now but you can still find her on YT. But CIA with the nano were using what I sensed as Mel’s voice or something it was the sound behind his voice it was like oh it’s so tough to explain, like water has sound waves, when you speak it’s the subconscious waves that come through from the neurotransmitters of the heart, I could pick up on that because I did Heart Math. CIA Ai betrayed Mel and all of us they used his energy without his consent & used it to attack me with. I’m pretty sure they also tried with the strongest hypnotists in the world. Pauline Hanson hates muslims and ching chongs, but supports the satanists, the false jews. It’s nuts.
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
As a professional from what I call “unhypnotist” which was my own technique when I asked God what I needed to do with my life decades ago and I had to unravel what the TV and the radio signals were doing to peoples brains by helping them lead them into their subconscious so they could clean it up with Jesus Christ’s guidance. If only I could help more people, but I’ve been attacked to not unhypnotise people from the media, I think more people in Australia would have be woken up and not woke. I also know what the CIA have done. I was trained by the same man (who is Aussie) that taught Mel Gibson and traveled to America to teach him. So yes, Mel Gibson is in fact also a Hypnotist and we were taught the strongest method from Anthon Mesmer, his techniques are still used in Germany to get rid of varicose veins. They don’t give you pain medication nor local anesthetic, they use rapid inductions to destabilise the pain immediately and within a few seconds make a few slits and rip out the varicose vein, apparently it’s painless. I have recently found you can heal varicose veins naturally with wild foods. Anyway the reason I mention hypnosis is because CIA hypnotised a guy after many days and convinced him to kill himself by walking out a high story window, don’t remember if it was 2nd or 3rd level building. All those shooters are heavily hypnotised, CIA also know mesmerism but they’re not as good as us here in Western Australia, the most amount of mesmerists in the world, let alone hypnotists. What they teach you in uni alongside Psychology is a watered down version of hypnosis there are no rapid inductions. It’s the Ericksonian technique developed by an American, only useful once a person is actually in hypnosis because it’s using visual imagery to clear out old patterns, your brain responds well with visual imagery. Fucking Wong. She’s probably a clone made in China then sent to be a handler to the government leader. I wonder when she’ll start falling apart.

corella64
1 week ago
Rumble censorship blocks personal views
on these issues.
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corella64
1 week ago
One indian is too many indians in Australia.
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BBrand89
1 week ago
Bikes grape kids

corella64
1 week ago
Globalism, mass immigration and multiculturalism is -anti-white- majority. The enemy from within and without. Bad DNA admixed with northern european DNA for future generations is deranged, corrupt, debased, degenerate etc. Defend you DNA stock, quality over quantity!

corella64
1 week ago
Both semitic tribes, jewish and islamic and their extended religious nationalities at war with white european majority nations, and winning at Bondi.

TVR_
1 week ago
Hail Thomas Sewell

scootera
1 week ago
Great Conversation

katana17
1 week ago
[Red Ice TV – Bondi Beach Shooting & White Australia with Thomas Sewell – Dec 17, 2025 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2025/12/18/red-ice-tv-bondi-beach-shooting-white-australia-with-thomas-sewell-dec-17-2025-transcript/ [In this live stream video Thomas Sewell from White Australia joins Henrik to talk about the effort to take back Australia, the Bondi Beach shooting and the political aspirations of White Australia party. Points discussed include: The shooting occurred during a Hanukkah celebration at Bondi Beach on December 14th [2025]. The attackers were a father and son duo, one of whom was born in Australia to an Indian father and Italian mother. The son had converted to Islam and received religious training; he was also linked to ISIS. The attackers allegedly targeted jews specifically, though many others were injured. “We’re surprised it doesn’t happen more often,” said Sewell, referencing Muslim rhetoric in Australia. Sewell says Muslims in gyms and job sites often express extreme anti-Jewish views. He criticises conspiracy theories suggesting the attack was staged or fake. “Sometimes Muslims just kill people,” dismissing Mossad-related theories. He says the jewish event was not random—it was advertised and attended by prominent Zionists. Arsen Ostrovsky, an Israeli human rights lawyer, was present at the event. Sewell notes Ostrovsky arrived in Australia weeks earlier to “fight anti-semitism.” The father was killed during the attack; the son was recently brought out of a coma. Some Aussies tried to intervene and were mistakenly targeted by police. Sewell contrasts police response to White nationalists vs. Muslim terrorists. “If you’re a White nationalist, they pull the gun out on you immediately.” Female police officers on the scene were ineffective and had “mental breakdowns.” Sewell describes the police as cowardly and unprepared for real violence. He criticises the Australian government for focusing on “Nazis” instead of real threat. And more, …
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Spectroscopy_
1 week ago
anyone know what happend to stormfront?

JWMickleMusic
VerifiedSupporter
1 week ago
another fantastic interview. Hail Victory! \\\

Henry000
1 week ago
Excellent interview. All Australian Whites should vote for his party. They have nothing left to lose.
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J0hnConn0r
1 week ago
Shadow banning comments fucking pathetic
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palacepony
Supporter
1 week ago
The islanders brought over to Queensland in the old days for the sugar cutting were the Kanakas.

Winstein_Synagoguehill
1 week ago
Eric Striker is such a brain dead shut in. Every serious Nationalist considers him a fool.
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Anglojim4
1 week ago
This is not a criticism. It was a great discussion and Thomas Sewell is a highly intelligent leader with some great policies. But perhaps he could curb using lots of swear words. I understand it’s the way blokes talk. But Mr Sewell is the leader of a party, which has great potential in Australia, and could attract votes from a wide range of men and women from different age groups

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PansophicGothi
4 days ago
Typically I agree with you (re: Joe Rogan etc), but it does seem to be that’s just how normal people in Australia talk, different culture. You might as well try to get them to stop using the ridiculous accent.

whitehonkymonkey
3 days ago
i expect tom will be more tactful when he’s dealing with politicians and the like. yes he could be more statesman like , however we are lucky to have him.

Seppl88
1 week ago
Jews and Fags are at the centre of all evil. Himmler understood the Fag problem.
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katana17
just now
[Heinrich Himmler – Speech about Homosexuality to the SS Group Leaders – Feb 18, 1937 – Transcript] https://katana17.com/2014/10/30/heinrich-himmler-on-homosexuality/

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nemo74
1 week ago
Nobody gives a fuck about what you don’t like. If people have theories, people have theories fucking deal with it dummy. Typical Australian. Wanna stifle freedom of speech. Guess you shouldn’t have given up your guns. Eh mate?

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RealPolitiko
1 week ago
Go suck off some muslims u retard

whitehonkymonkey
3 days ago
up the meds laddie, sounds like you need it.

kingogondo1
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1 week ago
Fantastic show. Every minute.

BattleAxe77
1 week ago
Yet its the Jews who love Cultural Marxism and mass migration. As long as they can have their Jewish state Israel
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SkoobyDew
1 week ago
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WheresMySpaceship
1 week ago
While those men should never have been in your country. You don’t hate them enough! If only anti-white zionists and jews died… (you know the people who all stick together but try to destroy you if you do, want you dead, humiliated, broke, powerless, and to genocide anyone non-jewish) Uh… Nothing of value was lost. The only issue is any government crack down. Disagree? (Check my logic versus yours. Understand I’m not the one with the mental illness… You are!)

Garbear78
Supporter
1 week ago
white power!!
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Brandonkane
Verified
1 week ago
Holy Crap you’re on Rumble? This is amazing. I haven’t been able to find you guys in so long
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Tmizzle89
1 week ago
HAIL THOMAS SEWELL ⚡️⚡️

BurningCross
Supporter
1 week ago
we can have guns. Just nothing practical for self defense and you have to beg the police and get formal training and get licensed and then the cops can raid your house whenever they want. cope more ozzies

boicotinho2
1 week ago
Not super convinced about their arguments from 21:00 onwards. I find it too much of a cohencidence that this propaganda lawyer was also an october 7 survivor
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RealPolitiko
1 week ago
You’re most likely brown since you’re one of those retards who always say muslims can never do nothing wrong, it’s always someone else’s fault. Like Thomas said: jews and muslims both need to get out of our White countries.
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
He’s not the first one to say it though.
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J_Cheever_Loophole
1 week ago
Don’t forget, tiny Rhodesia was fighting, and winning, against both Chinese backed communist terrorists, and USSR backed communist terrorists….what made them lose the war and hand the country back to the blacks was American embargoes and the US bullying the UK into cutting them off too, just as they did with Cuba and more recently Venezuela, as my Great Aunt who lived there said, “You can’t win a war without bombs and bullets” And just a few years later, the US bullied the rest of the world into supporting embargoes against South Africa and the exact same thing happened…forced to had over control to the blacks and to watch as their country was utterly destroyed….and many forget, South Africa was a nuclear power until then too… So it is the US you need to watch, especially their money lenders!. They knew they had to destroy those countries or else white men would flee there from Europe and the US… Now there is no white homeland, none at all….but if there is one positive note it is that a tiny military, well trained and well motivated.can win against incredible odds…just beware the USA…

Mogus1488
Supporter
1 week ago
Good stream but I did want to correct that the isis flag is banned still in Australia
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BradC1988
1 week ago
Hail Thomas Sewell, Hail NSN, Hail Victory!! o///
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nicestgoy
1 week ago
sign up whiteaus
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GreenGladeAryan
1 week ago
Hall the Leader o/
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palacepony
Supporter
1 week ago
Chris Minns is insane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKMbdLd-jwg&t=584s

Fawkes2
1 week ago
DEPORT ALL SEMITES
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
Excuse you, you mean deport all jews.
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MonThirteen
1 week ago
Thank you so much Henrik, you’re an awesome interviewer. You let Thomas cook. His last interview on jake shields was almost unwatchable. Dan constantly butting in, trying to steer topics to what he wanted. This interview was a breath of fresh air. When you have a genius on its best to listen and not ask stupid questions. Hail o/ FREE JOEL DAVIS.
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boicotinho2
1 week ago
Both inteviews was good. IMO the one with Shields and Belzerian wad even better than this one

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MonThirteen
1 week ago
Belzerian is like a newbie in comparison to Thomas. He kept interrupting and steering the conversation to his limited knowledge. When you have Thomas on a show, it’s time to shut up and learn.

renunciate
Supporter+
1 week ago
You’re still “fit & proper” Mr Sewel.
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BroadcastAdvisor
1 week ago
Lot a talk. No solutions. What’s the SOLUTION for AMERICA? Keep waiting to hear something … The Titanic isn’t going to fix itself. We need a new Republic and in the new Republic we’d need ( among many things ), a 4th branch of gov’t. 2 citizens PER official – their only job being watch them for any signs of treason. Pay = $100k + a year. Their reports go to a CIA ( Citizens Intelligence Agency ), for a deeper look. IF treason’s found they get a military tribunal. This, in our enlarged all white CSA II. There ya go. A great topic for an upcoming show.
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yogafiretate
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1 week ago
The commonwealth bank market cap is 250b not 1.3t bro is retarded

Goat_Moag
1 week ago
Speaking of banners. No foreign loyalties amendment. “No person holding foreign loyalties, foreign passports, or oaths to foreign actors, shall hold political office or government position, or other positions of trust.” Rough draft of course. Something of such importance certainly needs consideration, though the rough draft seems pretty good. The journey being more important than the destination (as far as getting an amendment passed, not that that would be a bad thing). The journey being to build a movement / coalition, and a banner to get behind.
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Bentley2177
1 week ago
Absolutely everything Tom speaks on is 100% correct!
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Bigboy6669
1 week ago
hail
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Knights_Messiah
1 week ago
54:36 Propaganda!! How about our governments boot all the non natives out
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Knights_Messiah
1 week ago
52:32 It’s disgusting. How dare the globalists fuck up the West like this
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Knights_Messiah
1 week ago
100 years on the native whites are slowly waking up and will no longer be bludgeoned by the Holocaust and carrying Hitlers efforts
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whitehonkymonkey
3 days ago
correct i was bludgeoned for over 60 years of allie propaganda,however thanks to people like david irving i have seen the way forward. go the NSN

Knights_Messiah
1 week ago
29:41 This is ridiculous!! Why is the West Infiltrated with non natives!! Whites only in power!!

Knights_Messiah
1 week ago
27:20 Virtue signaling about Anti-semetism. I and I am sure the native white Australians dont care about Anti-semetism!!! I care about white genocide and replacement
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AdamUnsalted
1 week ago
The more Whites notice bad Jewish behavior, the more the Jews open the gates for brown immigration.
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DJTriumph
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1 week ago
great show keep up the good fight, stay positive 👍
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Megawatts80
VerifiedSupporter+
1 week ago
the best thing about Tom is that not only is he highly intelligent, but he’s also the leader of White Australia because he’s the strongest, and there’s some very strong members of his org, and he is still the strongest. a true icon.
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PansophicGothi
4 days ago
So NSN functions like Orks ? 😂

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whitehonkymonkey
3 days ago
the establishment must be looking in and thinking how they can eliminate tom from the system as he’s gone and done a lot of study,which makes him dangerous to the system . i hope the NSN have plenty more like him as back up used to find tom too radical, however the system has gone so radical the other way,that national socialism is the only position left to us. keep up the good work tom your a credit to the whiteman.

Seppl88
1 week ago
I am in Sydney; Bondi is 20 km away. It is a Jewish Ghetto; they like to ghettoize themselves. The media and government are frantic but only in pushing the line that “anti-semitism” is to blame and we need more gun control. Not citing the obvious that multi-culturalism is violent, also these Indian shooters had legal guns. They want to bring in even harsher hate speech laws to curb the White Nationalists’ criticism of Jewish power. This was about payback for Gaza and nothing else. It is unfortunate that this achieved nothing, it has created more sympathy for Jews and has not hurt ZOG, only will punish white interests. Resist the tyranny, Tom is the man with a plan!
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
Make Bondi jew free again!
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
They can’t call themselves semites, they don’t have the blood type, proven by the shroud and Dr Serafini the Italian Cardiologist.

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mcdawggg
1 week ago
No one cares. Just get all the foreigners out of our country.
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Globalist_Juice
1 week ago
Always good to hear from Tom, thank you Henrik.
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beautifulphallus
1 week ago
Harold Holt was Prime Minister in the late 1960s

CoomernistFaggot
1 week ago
White is right.
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Knights_Messiah
1 week ago
Tighten gun laws.. Seems almost like Islam did the attack with this consequence in mind. Screw over the white natives even more
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AdamUnsalted
1 week ago
Islam is the broom of israel.
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Callisterz
1 week ago
Keep pushing your limits!
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Malthus
1 week ago
☣️💩✡️💩☣️ BONDI BEACH JEWISH MOSSAD BS EXPOSED! https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ok14qM0D4Qpz
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DJTriumph
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1 week ago
Bitchute is banned in the UK
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Malthus
1 week ago
ProtonVPN
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
Use Tor Browser? It’s pretty much just a VPN but free.

Downunderdickhead
Supporter
1 week ago
Good on ya Tom! Only bloke who can pull the country out of this mess! AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
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liebedich
Supporter
1 week ago
Oi! Oi! Oi!
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HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
Excuse you, I’m doing a pretty good job too, you all wouldn’t be here without me!

HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
Besides the fact that you choose a jew, a muslim, a serpent, a grey alien, pick a time and date and weapon of choice was my idea from about 4 years ago. That wasn’t any of the neo nazi’s ideas so if they don’t also credit me they’re in trouble!

HeartcloudTeaTreeKoala
1 week ago
Also you wouldn’t know that cia as in the satanists as in the jews have access to our timelines, if it wasn’t for me speaking out about it you’d all still be wasting your time in arrears you can’t make a dent in because the serpents with the jews will just amend the timeline and outcome back to the way they want it, they can’t do everything though. Through these timelines I’ve watched an American brotherhood kill the jews in America and it got reverted, I also saw other attacks and that also got reverted which Is why I said in the first place that it needs to be a worldwide thing at the same time and then we have to factor in the time travelers and their armies, because they’ll be at us too because having control of the future is a very powerful thing. If I wasn’t speaking out and made it by cleansing in this time loop and a seer from God none of you would know when to attack or where, and certainly not know when. If you want your enemy not to know your next move, you’ve got to cleanse with wild blueberries, why do you think I’m so onto that at the moment hmmm? Go get all the powders from Vimergy. Even jew Harari told you the luciferinase is a weapon “surveillance under the skin” is what he said in an interview it’s still up on YT. No I don’t take drugs, nor drink nor smoke and I’ve been cleansing heavily for more than 5 years with wild foods and even before that with dry cleansing and water fasting from 6yo. I’ve also been screened by 4 professionals and I’m no way delusional, I don’t have bi polar nor any of those kinds of things, I’m not schizophrenic either although I have had the v2k attacks which falsely say it’s schizo when it’s a weapon. Amy Holem has already proven this with her inventions to pick up on the radio signals, the micro waves, that means yes the microwaves and longitudinal waves that are coming at us. Actually I’m not sure if she picks up on the longitudinal because they go passed all devices including your own bones, it’s the make-up of us.

BeornBeorning
6 days ago
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